Polish Nukes
I was busy today but had a good laugh over this entity of the "When 'we' do it" versus "When 'they' do it" collection.
- Poland suggests hosting US nuclear weapons amid growing fears of Putin’s threats - Oct 5, 2022 - Guardian
- Poland: Nuclear arms in Belarus are further threat to European peace - Mar 26, 2023 - Anews
The Poles are (again) allowing the Anglo-Saxons to push them into rabbit rabid hostility against Russia and Germany. Not that there is much pushing needed but still.
That won't end well.
Posted by b on March 27, 2023 at 17:47 UTC | Permalink
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Posted by: Anton Gorbatow | Mar 27 2023 17:54 utc | 2
Forgot the URL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmu5sRIizdw
Posted by: angelo | Mar 27 2023 18:03 utc | 5
Rabbit hostility.
Conjures us Bugs Bunny and Looney Tunes.
Looney Tunes being particularly appropriate to the behaviour.
Lets hope it's not going to end with a bang.
Posted by: jpc | Mar 27 2023 18:06 utc | 6
«The Poles are (again) allowing the Anglo-Saxons to push them into rabbit hostility against Russia and Germany. Not that there is much pushing needed but still.»
Most eastern europeans including most poles have no particular issue with Russia and the russians, or their COMECON past as vassals of the USSR, and their vassalage was not harsher than the vassalage of most NATO countries to the EU.
But there is a significant minority, with many ex-exiles in it, who have been told by their grandfathers just how powerful and important and rich their ancestors were and how much they ruled over the peasants, and that "the communists" ended all that, and that it is a sacred duty to avenge the loss of family power and bring back the lithuanian-ruthenian-polish empire in which they were the exalted "schlacta".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rzeczpospolita_voivodships.png
https://twitter.com/MatasMaldeikis/status/1537043521261211651
«Matas Maldeikis MP 🇱🇹 I'm just having a cup of coffee while I wait for western leaders to decide which eastern borders they want to redraw ☕️»
Posted by: Blissex | Mar 27 2023 18:07 utc | 7
silly rabbits! the poles out to stick to bugs bunny comics...
Posted by: james | Mar 27 2023 18:14 utc | 8
Posted by: jpc | Mar 27 2023 18:06 utc | 6
Rabbit hostility. As Elmer Fudd said, "Be quiet, be vewy vewy quiet. I'm hunting wabbits."
Posted by: tom paine | Mar 27 2023 18:15 utc | 9
Jimmy Carter was attacked by a rabbit. True Story according to him.
Posted by: par4 | Mar 27 2023 18:18 utc | 10
"This won't end well."
None of it will end well, Bernard, not unless you live east of the Dnieper.
Posted by: Hal Duell | Mar 27 2023 18:18 utc | 11
Not all Poles are ignorant of or indifferent to the atrocities committed by Ukrainians against Poles during WWII. But neither can some Poles forget the atrocities, such as rape, committed by some Soviet liberators against their grandparents. These things disrupt the whole family structure for generations.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Mar 27 2023 18:21 utc | 12
Posted by: par4 | Mar 27 2023 18:18 utc | 10
he was also smeared by the CIA, the democrats and the Reagan republicans. Ben Barnes recently admitted working with another republican to keep the hostages in Iran to sabotage the Carter campaign, and of course we all know about the sweet arms deals we awarded Iran for capturing and holding american hostages.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 27 2023 18:23 utc | 13
But there is a significant minority, with many ex-exiles in it, who have been told by their grandfathers ...
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Posted by: Blissex | Mar 27 2023 18:07 utc | 7
It is often exactly like that! I remember arguing (waste of time of course) with some people over their argument that "My Polish grandma told me, laying on the deathbed, that she survived Germans and Russians and the latter were much worse". Any my comment was that she would have said different things if she was Jewish, except that if she was Jewish the person putting forth that argument would not exist at all! Survival bias.
Posted by: velizhan | Mar 27 2023 18:27 utc | 15
Annalena Baerbock's foreign ministry office statement:
Der von Putin gezogene Vergleich zur nuklearen Teilhabe der NATO sei „irreführend“ und könne nicht dazu dienen, den von Russland angekündigten Schritt zu begründen. (https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/atomwaffen-in-belarus-berlin-sieht-keine-neue-nukleare-bedrohung-18777957.html)
Loose translation: The deployment of US nuclear weapons in NATO countries, cited by the Russian president as an example, is misleading and cannot justify the deployment of Russian nuclear weapons in Belarus.
The Green gymnast talking about Western exceptionalism. She would have prospered well in the NSDAP.
Posted by: xor | Mar 27 2023 18:29 utc | 16
It's such bad reasoning. What do they think is going to happen after Warsaw is nuked?
Washington A: "Yeah, let's hit the suicide button!"
or
Washington B: "That sucks. We'll be expediting visas of all Polish geniuses and plutocrats."
There's no doubt that Poles have plenty of reasons to dislike Russia. But they should stop and think - without the Soviet Union, Warsaw now might be like London or Paris, with Poles a minority in their own capital.
If they volunteer as cannon-fodder for GAE (Global American Empire) they shouldn't think they'll be rewarded. No good deed unpunished. If formerly mighty England went down, what chance Poland?
"The heroic characteristics of the Polish race must not blind us to their errors, which over centuries have led them through measureless suffering…it is a mystery and tragedy of European history that a people capable of every heroic virtue, gifted, valiant, charming, as individuals, should repeatedly show such inveterate faults in almost every aspect of their governmental life.”
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 27 2023 18:40 utc | 18
The Russians REALLY DON'T LIKE the West sending depleted urainium (DU) ammo to the front lines in Ukraine.
Putin has provided strong indicators that such will not be tolerated. This is evident from his almost immediate response and announcment that Russian nukes will be placed into Belarus.
This is yet another of the West's escalations on the rising escalator of escalations.
DU on the front line, nukes in Poland, nukes in Belarus, positioning of Russian nuclear subs around the USA, what's next?
Someday this very dangerous escalator will rise to the next floor. That floor will be the floor of a nuclear launch. The escalator will arrive to this destination. This will become more and more obvious.
It is to Russia's advantage to take and secure the Donbas before their launch date. Such will allow Russia to remove a signficant threat on its Western border before nuclear hostilities begin.
From here watch Russia move quickly to achieve the goal of taking the Donbas. Both Bakhmut and Avdeyevka will soon fall to the Russians. After that the mobilization momentum of the Russians will accelerate signficantly.
Perhaps the Russians will take out all the bridges on the Dnieper to slow the transfer of Western DU ammo to the front lines. If they do this, then the taking of the Donbas by Russia will become a milestone towards their launch date against the USA and key NATO allies.
Posted by: young | Mar 27 2023 18:43 utc | 19
Posted by: Jonathan W | Mar 27 2023 18:21 utc | 12
Oh, the Poles, forever the victims...cry me a river!
Posted by: v | Mar 27 2023 18:45 utc | 20
The Poles should be left to "rotating the house to change a light bulb".
From the bigoted joke, "How many Poles does it take to change a lightbulb?", circa 1964.
Posted by: Mann Friedman | Mar 27 2023 18:55 utc | 21
Truely a paradox that Germans Greens are fanatic anti-Nuke energy but silent when it comes to the topic of 200+ US Atom Bombs stored on German soil.
It’s also likely there are beaucoup tactical nukes still stored within Germany.
Finally, those very same Greens voted in favor of buying F-35s whose main selling point is they are capable of carrying Atom Bombs.
A paradox ain’t it ?
Posted by: Exile | Mar 27 2023 19:00 utc | 22
This is a translation of an older Swedish joke about Fins. History repeats as a joke.
Posted by: Chris | Mar 27 2023 19:03 utc | 23
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Lepus
Careful with the bunny jokes!!!
Posted by: Squeeth | Mar 27 2023 19:03 utc | 24
I might have already mentioned it earlier: an interesting albeit anti-Russian film narrative take on the idea of Polish nukes is worked into the Netflix streaming series "1983", a dystopian scenario what 2013 would look like with Warsaw Pact still around, but also with Syrian/Iraq invaded by US forces, and Poles having secretly developed nukes which they intend to hand over to the CIA behind Moscow´s back.
Apart from all that escapism, this is a serious situation. And since our darling Baerbock has been mentioned - it is typical that modernizing 180 B61-12 in GER/NL/IT/TUR and stationing 20 (?) of these new models in Germany probably by January already was not worth any major report.
Whereas Belarus, naturally is "verboten".
Posted by: AG | Mar 27 2023 19:09 utc | 25
A baffling phenomenon amongst academic types...how the leftist pacifists turned into rabbit warmongers.... wearing their masks that won't stop drywall dust let alone submicroscopic aerosolized virilon and screaming for war...muffled Abit. Carter was attacked by a rabid? So the Polish gentleman walks into the bar holding a big pile of dogshit in his hands and proudly shouts..."look what I nearly stepped in"
Posted by: Joe | Mar 27 2023 19:17 utc | 26
Jimmy Carter was indeed attacked by a rabbit and the story was sensationalized and became a point of ridicule but the reality is that it was in fact a large rabbit and rabbits can actually be aggressive.
btw: I am pretty sure you meant that Poland is being pushed into rabid hostility.
Here is a link to information about swamp rabbits: https://www.nwf.org/Educational-Resources/Wildlife-Guide/Mammals/Swamp-Rabbit
Posted by: Chip Poirot | Mar 27 2023 19:35 utc | 27
Rabid vs Rabbit
I am wondering if a talk-to text app may be the culprit for the recurring typos?
As an expat currently struggling daily with my tenuous grasp of my third and non-native language, i hope this does not come across as insulting or condescending, far from it actually.
MoA's journalism and devotion to quality fact finding and analysis is too often let down by the lack of an editor. I wonder how many superficial, unfamiliar or first time readers are left skeptical about the professionalism and value of this blog, purely on account of the typos, which would be a real shame.
Even as a 1-man-show operation, surely there must be dozens of native English barflies willing to make themselves available to do some polishing and spell check for B?
What do we say, anyone willing to help out with draft-before-publish page on a login/password basis for approved spellcheckers/subeditors only? The thought of offering myself has often crossed my mind, and who knows, i could even talk my mother, (retired English teacher and fellow alt news aficionado with a healthy dislike for the indispensable warmongering types) into it ;
Posted by: Et Tu | Mar 27 2023 19:46 utc | 29
Doesn't take much to get the Poles and the Russians at each others throats. Deep cultural animosity on both sides of that show.
Posted by: Monos | Mar 27 2023 19:47 utc | 30
Jimmy Carter was attacked by a rabbit. True Story according to him.
Posted by: par4 | Mar 27 2023 18:18 utc | 10
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It was a rabid Russian hating Polish rabbit, but it is government top secret about how it got to Georgia.
Posted by: Ed | Mar 27 2023 20:04 utc | 31
The Green gymnast talking about Western exceptionalism. She would have prospered well in the NSDAP.
Posted by: xor | Mar 27 2023 18:29 utc | 16
Ah Annalena of the 360 degree turnarounds.
Posted by: jpc | Mar 27 2023 20:08 utc | 33
What would the nations think were President Putin to initiate a multi-national, multi-religious, multi-cultural effort to efface the schism of 1054?
Were I in his shoes today, I think that would occur to me as the next step in expanding the serenity of Russia and the nations in general. My (as President Putin) diplomatic, financial, and war-fighting assets work smoothly to ends good for my countrymen.
Now to pull that ancient thorn from the feet of the nations. I (as President Putin) say, we will have no more schisms.
Posted by: The Rev. David R. Gr | Mar 27 2023 20:12 utc | 34
re:xor | Mar 27 2023 18:29 utc | 16
Thanks to Annalena Baerbock, Russia has come around 360 degrees on their views of Germany and nuclear weapons.
Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 27 2023 20:16 utc | 35
Putin and the Russian made a grave mistake by not to finish the special military operation quickly and decisively , now by being cautious and slow , they allowed the US and its allied to weaponise the Ukrainian, and so paying the price , otherwise if they finished the job quickly the Poles will be shivering in their pants .
Posted by: Bobby | Mar 27 2023 20:22 utc | 37
@4, par4, speaking of Jimmy Carter, rumors are that he's on his death bed. Expect a huge state funeral and another distraction. Also, isn't King Turd going to be coronated soon? ANOTHER distraction......
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Mar 27 2023 20:27 utc | 38
Looks like I'm first to point out the neologistic 'rabbit hostility.' Hare hostility was confusing. This works.
Posted by: Elmagnostic | Mar 27 2023 20:27 utc | 39
The Poles certainly don't need much pushing from the US and UK to go deeper down their own rabbit hole of delusion, in which both Germany and Russia would deny them their dream of resurrecting a Polish kingdom from the Baltic to the Black Sea, and Britain will once again be a refuge for the Polish govt and Polish refugees should Polish attempts to revive its Lazarus project fail dismally.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Mar 27 2023 20:30 utc | 40
A paradox ain’t it ?
Posted by: Exile | Mar 27 2023 19:00 utc | 22
You made a brilliant observation about the greens that's completely and utterly ignored by everyone.
They've shut down the German nuclear power network because it's dangerous.
But not a bleat about nuclear weapons in Germany or the proposed use of DU I the Ukraine. Its a bit more than a paradox.
It's breathtaking hypocrisy by the greens and their voters.
Posted by: jpc | Mar 27 2023 20:33 utc | 41
Polish history = short story. Is there a state which ended twice because it annoyed all neighbours around? Copy and paste third time. Ukraine, German reparations, let's grab a piece of Czech republic, piece of Belorussia. And let's rely on countries with which we do not have a border (USA, UK). Sounds like a good suicide coctail.
Posted by: S.chneider | Mar 27 2023 20:50 utc | 42
"US Senate to Vote on Setting Up Inspector General for Ukraine Aid" including offices/parking spaces.
After staffing, a vote on the AIGSPV (Annual Inspector General and Staff Picnic Venue) will be conducted by the new GS-15 AG staff astrologer.
Should a tie vote occur, 1 addition staffer will be hired to break the tie. Or 3.
Posted by: Elmagnostic | Mar 27 2023 21:06 utc | 44
Polish history = short story. Is there a state which ended twice because it annoyed all neighbours around? Copy and paste third time. Ukraine, German reparations, let's grab a piece of Czech republic, piece of Belorussia. And let's rely on countries with which we do not have a border (USA, UK). Sounds like a good suicide coctail.
Posted by: S.chneider | Mar 27 2023 20:50 utc | 41
Of course you can only rely on countries which you do not have a border with. If you intend to redraw those borders, your neighbours might object - or they might even plan to redraw the borders themselves.
From this point of view, only countries you don't have a border with are safe.
(Even if they already threw you under the bus once or twice.)
Posted by: Martina | Mar 27 2023 21:17 utc | 45
Looks like I'm first spotting the neologistic "rabbit hostility." Very finely chosen. "Hare hostility" caused uncertainty.
Posted by: Elmagnostic | Mar 27 2023 21:22 utc | 46
"This won't end well."
None of it will end well, Bernard, not unless you live east of the Dnieper.
Posted by: Hal Duell | Mar 27 2023 18:18 utc | 11
... and south of Ecuador.
Posted by: xDiablo | Mar 27 2023 21:24 utc | 47
That won't end good for the Germs for sure. Drang Nacht Warsten!!!
Posted by: Lech | Mar 27 2023 21:26 utc | 48
"These things disrupt the whole family structure for generations." - Jonathan W at 12
Ukrainians, Russians. Somehow our commentator forgot to mention the German Nazis, who killed close to 2 million non-Jewish Poles, and sent another 1.5 million to work as slave laborers in Germany. Of course, some 2-3 million Polish Jews were also murdered. Somehow the Poles have supposedly forgiven the Germans and the Ukrainians, but not the Russians?? No, the Poles have been manipulated by the West, by the Roman Catholic Church, and by their own capitalist class.
The Soviet history in Poland is irredeemably contaminated by Cold War propaganda and Western CIA "scholarship". I'm not saying the Soviets were clean of any atrocities. They were fighting a war to exterminate them. But statements like that of Jonathan W seem meant to facilitate historical amnesia.
Posted by: Jeffrey Kaye | Mar 27 2023 21:33 utc | 50
"Rabbit hostility"
You probably wrote "Rabbid Hostility" but your spell checker corrected you.
The idea of deploying nukes in Poland is precisely the abject stupidity that provoked the war in Ukraine. Aside from the prospect of the US deploying nukes in Ukraine as a prospective member of NATO, Zelenski was threatening at the 2021 NATO summit that unless NATO admitted Ukraine as a member, Ukraine would acquire nuclear weapons.
Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Mar 27 2023 21:37 utc | 51
"This won't end well."
None of it will end well, Bernard, not unless you live east of the Dnieper.
Posted by: Hal Duell | Mar 27 2023 18:18 utc | 11
... and south of Ecuador.
Posted by: xDiablo | Mar 27 2023 21:24 utc | 45
►just like that "Tchernobyl could" that was crossing some borders but not others?
East of Dnieper and south of Ecuador...you'll just die slower.
Only way out this war is cease fire and negociation,
if no way out soon then start digging, better mobilize for peace now,
no war but the class war!
Posted by: Tak-Tik | Mar 27 2023 21:48 utc | 52
Nov 19- 2021
Well let go back a bit in time-
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/-nato-calls-on-new-german-government-to-back-nuclear-deterrence/2425541
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_188772.htm?selectedLocale=en
"And I count on Germany to remain committed to NATO’s nuclear sharing. It is our ultimate security guarantee.
Our aim is a world free of nuclear weapons.
But as long as others have them, NATO must have them too. The nuclear weapons we share in NATO provide European Allies with an effective nuclear umbrella.This, of course, also includes our eastern Allies.
And they are an important signal of Allied unity against any nuclear-armed adversary.
So NATO’s nuclear sharing arrangements are of particular importance for Europe.
Paul (scared citizen of Norway)
Posted by: Paul | Mar 27 2023 22:20 utc | 53
Nuclear "sharing" violates the spirit of the NPT. But what goes around, comes around. The West can scream bloody murder about Russia in this regard, while ignoring the fact that the US and NATO have been making this same violation for decades.
Gilbert Doctorow has an interview with Putin posted on his website at present. This was Putin's comment on the agreement to put nuclear weapons in Belarus:
"There is nothing unusual about this. The USA has done precisely the same for decades, supplying such weapons to its allies, NATO members: Turkey, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy and Greece. And so we decided to do exactly the same, without violating in any way our obligations under the Non-ProliferationTreaty. We have helped the Belarus colleagues to reequip their jets to carry these tactical weapons. We have given over to Belarus our very effective missiles Iskander, which can also be a delivery vehicle. On 3 April we will start training the flight crews. And on 1 July we will complete the construction of a special storage base for these weapons.
Alex Christofuro made the comment today that this is all about sour grapes on the part of the West because this spoils the prospects for another color revolution in Belarus.
Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 27 2023 22:27 utc | 54
The Green gymnast talking about Western exceptionalism. She would have prospered well in the NSDAP.
Posted by: xor | Mar 27 2023 18:29 utc | 16
Her reasoning is pretty weak....I'm not sure she gave it 360 percent effort...
Posted by: Scuppers | Mar 27 2023 22:38 utc | 55
Rabbit hatred.... powerful psychiatric phenomenon that....
Can't find bad-tempered mutated sea bass in Poland?
So, bad-tempered mutated land rabbits will have to do.
Where is Austin Powers and Dr Evil when they need them?
Posted by: kiwiklown | Mar 27 2023 22:51 utc | 56
NATO has criticized Vladimir Putin for what it called his “dangerous and irresponsible” nuclear rhetoric after the Russian president announced his country would station tactical nuclear arms in Belarus.
Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation
The United States and its NATO allies do not disclose exact figures for its European-deployed stockpiles. In 2021, it is estimated that there are 100 U.S.-owned nuclear weapons stored in five NATO member states across six bases: Kleine Brogel in Belgium, Büchel Air Base in Germany, Aviano and Ghedi Air Bases in Italy, Volkel Air Base in the Netherlands, and Incirlik in Turkey.
Fact Sheet: U.S. Nuclear Weapons in Europe Agosto 18, 2021
Posted by: António Ferrão | Mar 27 2023 23:13 utc | 57
Poland stopped being a real country a while ago, it's existence is an act of Anglo Saxon colonialism on continental Europe.
Posted by: Virgil | Mar 27 2023 23:17 utc | 58
Q. How does a Polish mine detector work?
A. Shut your eyes, put your fingers in your ears, and stamp real hard.
Posted by: pasha | Mar 27 2023 23:21 utc | 59
Do you ever get the feeling that they are just playing a duet, and selling us tickets to the show? Sometimes I do...
Poland is, for now, the european hegemon "bulldog"...
How mad will he be pushed?
What does Poland dreams? Of an humiliating destruction of Germany and management of Europe under the US boots?
I wonder...
What a nightmare! Ahahah!
Posted by: Meriem Kheira Peille | Mar 27 2023 23:22 utc | 61
uk training ukies with DU
https://twitter.com/declassifiedUK/status/1640349852193243139
borrel tweeted Belarus hosting nukes is escalation and a threat to EU security. lol but nukes all over RF borders is not that
Posted by: hankster | Mar 27 2023 23:23 utc | 62
"The Poles should stop and think" . Aahh, the root of the problem.
Posted by: JustTruth | Mar 27 2023 23:44 utc | 63
Rabbits are great for producing loads of fertilizer. I guess we can call it the rabbit West
Posted by: circumspect | Mar 27 2023 23:48 utc | 64
Polandistan is the world champion at whining.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Mar 28 2023 0:01 utc | 65
Yeah, We are thinking our way, not your way. We learned throughout century how you think and that was " Drang Nacht Osten ". Thanks Americans for keeping Germs on short leash, whole Europe has peace. If left unleashed there would be WW3. Thank USA.God Bless.
Posted by: Lech | Mar 28 2023 0:02 utc | 66
Let me address something I noticed on this site. When a White country goes against China or Russia, the people here condemn the whole population of that nation, as shown here by the derogatory talk about all things Polish. However, if the nation is non White then the only party that gets blamed is its government.
So very obvious, disingenuous, hypocritical, and racist.
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Mar 28 2023 0:14 utc | 67
" Polandistan is the world champion at whining.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Mar 28 2023 0:01 utc | 63 "
India is the world champion of outdoor " plumbing ".
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Mar 28 2023 0:16 utc | 68
Maybe it's time for the Russians to start training the English with DU?
Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 28 2023 0:30 utc | 69
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/mines-depleted-uranium-and-important
Here's an excellent article by Simplicius76, which talks among other things about
1. Depleted uranium rounds and why they are dangerous.
2. Russia's problems with Ukranazi mine tactics (this is something you will never read on sites like that of the bag of stinking septic tank gas Martyanov; extremely important).
3. How Ukranazistan is adapting to frontline conditions incision how it is supplying fuel to frontline forces.
Not to be missed.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Mar 28 2023 0:33 utc | 70
This thread made me think of how Russia is probably using Belarus the same way. Belarus will be 'Ukraine' and the Baltics/Poland will be 'Russia.' If NATO escalates, that's just an admission that it already started a war. But it's Belarus, so it will confuse geography addled Americans. Karen won't know who to shoot at. I wrote about it here: https://aaronlee.substack.com/p/belarus-as-proxy-war-weapon-against
The clown show continues, but who are the clowns in this scenario ?
" Ukraine wants to increase the cost of transit of Russian oil that it sends to Slovakia, Hungary and the Czech Republic via the Druzhba pipeline. Ukrainian pipeline operator Ukrtransnafta believes the price hike is necessary to cover the cost of “restoring the oil transportation infrastructure destroyed during hostilities [with Russia].”
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5899229
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Mar 28 2023 0:43 utc | 72
Ex-pats lie.
My sister-in-law told me that her mother was born in Ukraine, one of 17 children. Her father was abusive, so when she was 16 she ran away to Poland to join her older sister, who owned a restaurant there.
OK, fine. But when I met her mother, she marched up to me and told me "I escaped Stalin! I love America!"
OK, lady. I already know the truth. You were 16, ffs, Stalin wasn't persecuting you. But I guess immigrants give Americans the story they think they want.
I worked with a Syrian who did the same thing. Told me a long story about oppression by the Assads, and then many years later, I read a book and realized that the story was bogus, so I confronted him. He sheepishly admitted it.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Mar 28 2023 0:46 utc | 73
When a White country goes against China or Russia, the people here condemn the whole population of that nation, as shown here by the derogatory talk about all things Polish. However, if the nation is non-White then the only party that gets blamed is its government.
So very obvious, disingenuous, hypocritical, and racist.
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Mar 28 2023 0:14 utc | 65
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Of course, Mr. Deplorable, you are correct. The anti-Russian (i.e. racist) leaders of Poland do not represent All of the white Polish people. However, since these racist bastards to high office are elected by the majority of the polish voters, we at the MoA can assume that most of the voters agree with their leaders.
And, if the mostly "white" polish citizens can forgive and overlook the anti-Polish fascist history of the western Ukrainians during WW2 and embrace their Nazi fascist militias today, and in fact, provide them with tanks and aircraft to wage war against Russia, then I suspect that we folks at the MoA can overlook our anti-white polish "racism" that upsets you so much. I can live with it; how about you Mr. Deplorable?
Posted by: Ed | Mar 28 2023 0:51 utc | 74
At least its refreshing to know for certain that if these English lunatics keep escalating, London will be one of the first cities to be vaporized in the nuclear exchange.
Ill probably go watch the movie Threads again and enjoy it with popcorn and soda.
Posted by: Comandante | Mar 28 2023 0:58 utc | 75
" Of course, Mr. Deplorable, you are correct. The anti-Russian (i.e. racist) leaders of Poland do not represent All of the white Polish people. However, since these racist bastards to high office are elected by the majority of the polish voters, we at the MoA can assume that most of the voters agree with their leaders.
Posted by: Ed | Mar 28 2023 0:51 utc | 72 "
Your anti-White hatred blinds you because you dont even seem to comprehend what you wrote Mr, Ed. You too are from a NATO nation, as most of the posters here. Therefore, you're all "guilty" also since your nation have " voting " and " democracy". See how that works ?
So, in the spirit, of fairness lets condemn all the NATO, and allied, populations as they are all collectively guilty. In fact, let everyone start by condemning themselves since you " elect your leaders ".
Heres a sugar cube for your effort Mr. Ed.
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Mar 28 2023 1:01 utc | 76
With a massive population, a surging economy and Saber rattling Poland is definitely a threat to regional peace.
However in 2022 Poland spent more on Ukrainian refugees than in national defence. If things continue this way Poland can be tamed.
Posted by: Jason | Mar 28 2023 1:01 utc | 77
The Americans place nukes everywhere, why not let the proliferation proliferate? Nuke everywhere hell yeah. Get them in range of all the elites. Then they won't do anything.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 28 2023 1:03 utc | 78
If everyone had nuclear weapons, we would all be safer! I think President Putin reminded Kazakhstan's President Tokayev of how nukes might prevent certain colorful occurrences a while back. I couldn't find the thing on YouTube. But I'm glad Budapest went through and Kiev ( kEEEEEEEE-vhhhh ) (should I add a few paragraph signs?) doesn't have any declared nuclear weapons.
But who knows, some things probably slipped through the cracks in the crazy times of the early '90s, though.
Thingie help us all!
Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 28 2023 1:16 utc | 79
Posted by: Jeffrey Kaye | Mar 27 2023 21:33 utc | 48
Don’t forget the USSR’s invasion of Poland on 17 September 1939, or Katyn Forest.
But two reasons for Polish acceptance of Germany and antipathy to Russia stem from mote recent history, through which current Poles have lived: the soft, nonthreatening condition of Germany, and 45 years of occupation by the Soviet Union.
Posted by: Ciaran | Mar 28 2023 1:29 utc | 80
On Rabbit obsession,
b wrote: The Poles are (again) allowing the Anglo-Saxons to push them into rabbit hostility against Russia and Germany. Not that there is much pushing needed but still.
My mind read: to push them into rabbit [hole of] hostility against Russia and Germany. Just a couple of missing words, in my minds eye.
I won’t even bother with joke of how many Polaks does it take screw a light bulb.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Mar 28 2023 1:35 utc | 81
Nice one b :-)
China added to the hilarity by pointing out that AmeriKKKa has a plethora of "self-defense" Nukes beyond the shores of the continental USA.
Exceptional Hypocrisy.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 28 2023 1:37 utc | 82
nukes nukes everywhere nukes
M. K. Bhadrakumar has his say, and needless to say as usual, it's a good one
fyi
https://www.indianpunchline.com/moscow-calls-out-us-rules-based-order-in-europe/
"....Worse still, the US practices a controversial arrangement known as “nuclear sharing”, under which it installs nuclear equipment on fighter jets of select non-nuclear NATO countries and train their pilots to carry out nuclear strike with US nuclear bombs. This is happening when the US, being a party to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), has promised not to hand over nuclear weapons to other countries, and the non-nuclear countries in the NATO’s sharing arrangement have themselves promised not to receive nuclear weapons from the nuclear weapon states!
The NATO declared last year that seven NATO countries contributed dual-capable aircraft to the nuclear sharing mission. These countries are believed to be the US, Belgium, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Turkey and Greece. And all are signatories to the NPT!
Welcome to the “rules based order”! What is perfectly permissible to the West is forbidden for Russia!...."
Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 28 2023 1:38 utc | 83
how funny. electricity grid must be pretty pathetic to blame tik tok ,
Posted by: hankster | Mar 28 2023 1:44 utc | 84
Hey here's a thought. Maybe a reason Poland and other Slavic lands aren't really keen on Russia is that Russia has been fundamentally antagonistic to Pan-Slavism. Russia has always seemed to want to be more European that a pan slav; and more Czar or Commis-czar than federalist.
Russia had control of the majority of Slavic lands in both the 19th and 20th century, and couldn't unite them. In fact just the opposite, they tended to alienate the other Slavic lands. Hence today, because of this failure we have the SMO; where Russia (the largest Slavic land),is fighting against the next two largest Slavic lands (Ukraine and Poland).
Posted by: Jerr | Mar 28 2023 1:48 utc | 85
Ah the Poles, ever the rabid Russophobic nation with American leash. At this point,they and Baltic chihuahuas should take off the gloves and demand for US nukes on their soil, Elensky-style. Melnyk the Germanic Slav can teach a thing or two about begmanding.
I don't get the Polish endgame. Rationally speaking, best outcome for Poland is:
1) Wiped out 404
2) Weakened Germany/NATO
3) Isolated Russia
4) Built up US-funded/armed Polish army to swoop in Western 404 and seize historical lands.
5) Poland declares themselves ze protectorate of Europe.
First 3 are kind of happening, though it's more like US-led coalition of the willing getting blown to kingdom come in (4) and Warsaw being razed in (5) after US pulls another Saigon/Kabul operation.
Rzeszow base has the 5th army (or 6th after the bound to fail Ukies offensive). This is like an arcade game where you can insert coins to respawn/continue, blood and bone coins that. Truth is indeed stranger than fiction!
Posted by: _newbie_ | Mar 28 2023 2:31 utc | 86
Your anti-White hatred blinds you because you dont even seem to comprehend what you wrote Mr, Ed. You too are from a NATO nation, as most of the posters here. Therefore, you're all "guilty" also since your nation have " voting " and " democracy". See how that works ?
So, in the spirit, of fairness lets condemn all the NATO, and allied, populations as they are all collectively guilty. In fact, let everyone start by condemning themselves since you " elect your leaders ".
Heres a sugar cube for your effort Mr. Ed.
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Mar 28 2023 1:01 utc | 74
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Thank you for the sugar cube, Mr. Deplorable. And as I said in my comment, " Of course, Mr. Deplorable, you are correct...." Yes, it is wrong to judge ALL people by their leaders. But the leaders are just that, and if you oppose them, you must be vocal about it. I haven't really noticed that from you, in fact you seem to support NATO and the US aggression against Russia, though you do it with much finesse. You attacked the commentators on MoA for being "anti-white racist," so I will tell you something about real racism and about myself.
I have authored articles in many News Papers and supported the struggles of oppressed people all over the globe since the 1980's. I am old now, but I still do what I can because I live, and grew up, in the heart of the most anti-democratic "Democracy" in the world: The USA with its phony two party system.
I remember when white and black people were separated by either a major highway or a railroad track in almost every town in the Southern United States. I remember that I could, and did, walk to school in just a few minutes while Black children my own age road a bus to go to a "separate but equal" school more than twenty miles away. I also know that this kind of racism did not just happen, it required state and government laws to implement and enforce this system. When you talk about "racism" you MUST include the role of the STATE and local government's role in such things.
Unlike you, I don't cry about "anti-white racism" because I have never seen it (I do not say that it doesn't exist, just that I have not seen it or experienced it), but I do know racism when I see it because as I said I grew up in the deep South of the United States and I also lived and worked for a time in South Africa. I know what racism is, and I know the difference between racism, prejudice, and the justified hatred by people who have been treated like dogs due to their skin color, religion or non-religion, and for white colonial profits via neo-colonial rule of underdeveloped nations.
I also know that when white people start crying about "anti-white racism," they are probably racist themselves: They are generally concerned about losing privileges that they used to enjoy in the "good ole days."
So, in the spirit of fairness, I am not saying that you are a racist Mr. Deplorable, because I know nothing about you except that you live in a non-NATO country, and you are offended by people who attack white fascist leaders in countries like Ukraine and Poland. I also know what you write here at MoA and you seem to be on the wrong side of a number of issues from my POV. But thanks for the sugar anyway.
Posted by: Ed | Mar 28 2023 2:40 utc | 87
Mr kinzal should pay a visit to DU storage facilities in England. NATO will attack Russia this summer anyways. So better to get the first hot in and they may just get away with it.
Posted by: Darren | Mar 28 2023 2:55 utc | 88
Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 28 2023 0:30 utc | 67
Maybe it's time for the Russians to start training the English with DU?
<==Rothschild's Wall Street would be offended?
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 28 2023 1:03 utc | 76
Nukes everywhere .. Get them in range of all the elites.
<= Sum(Elites + Elite owned corporations)= 6*(No of Nukes).
Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 28 2023 1:16 utc | 77
If everyone had nuclear weapons, we would all be safer!
<=best security agreement yet..
Posted by: snake | Mar 28 2023 3:00 utc | 89
@ Elmagnostic | Mar 27 2023 21:22 utc | 44
Looks like I'm first spotting the neologistic "rabbit hostility."
Ok. Well. What about the lagomorphologistics of wabbit warfare?
Posted by: anon1 | Mar 28 2023 3:17 utc | 90
IMO, one of the possible secret motive behind pushing Poland further into direct conflict with Russia by provoking a retaliation would be to confirm the Western narrative according to which Poutine's war in Ukraine if of imperialistic nature and that he's indeed a new Hitler.
Posted by: xiao pignouf | Mar 28 2023 3:48 utc | 91
Sorry, posted too fast
is of imperialistic nature
Posted by: xiao pignouf | Mar 28 2023 3:50 utc | 92
@Exile | Mar 27 2023 19:00 utc | 22
>>A paradox ain’t it ?
Once I thought that Die Grünen, also with their pie-in-the-sky wokery, are useful idiots for the Empire. But while that may apply to the voters, the leadership knows exactly what they're doing--and have been doing since Joschka Fischer. Read a bit more and you see that they've systematically cultivated ties with the German arms industry, to jointly push for war under the rainbow banner. So, and with apologies to our host, it's only right and proper that all of German industry is now taking a hit as a result of those policies.
No useful idiots for the Empire, Die Grünen are simply a German branch of that Empire. One branch; the Empire has others as well.
Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Mar 28 2023 4:01 utc | 93
so "the west" deserves quote mark derision but "anglo-saxons" is just fine. k. sure.
Posted by: the pair | Mar 28 2023 4:57 utc | 94
over this entity of the "When 'we' do it" versus "When 'they' do it"Posted by b on March 27, 2023 at 17:47 UTC | Permalink
Yep.
https://twitter.com/KeaweWong/status/1631791569580728322
Posted by: Vikichka | Mar 28 2023 4:58 utc | 95
@ 83 - I just read a book about Catherine the Great. Empress of Art
Quite interesting to learn abouy Potemkin and gaining Crimea from the Turks. She had here eyes on Constantinople now Istanbul. Cue the Four Lads...Istanbul not Constantinople to revive the Holy Roman Empire. Whoa. I think I may have gotten lost in the whole thing. Voltaire and Titian. I think I am a monarchist.
But, I think she tried to bring the Slavs together, certainly more than her husband who she had murdered. Catherine isn't called Great for no reason!
I'm quite curious what everyone else thinks!
Here's a little link about Catherine.
Since her coup d’etat and Peter’s suspicious death demanded both discretion and stability in her dealings with other nations, she continued to preserve friendly relations with Prussia, Russia’s old enemy, as well as with the country’s traditional allies, France and Austria. In 1764 she resolved the problem of Poland, a kingdom lacking definite boundaries and coveted by three neighbouring powers, by installing one of her old lovers, Stanisław Poniatowski, a weak man entirely devoted to her, as king of Poland.
Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 28 2023 5:28 utc | 96
"Rabbit hostilily"....Please tell me you're using voice to text...
Posted by: fubsy | Mar 28 2023 5:59 utc | 97
Well the bar is winding up pretty good I'll have a double
Posted by: Diego | Mar 28 2023 5:59 utc | 98
So is it poutine or putine? I'm really confused here. I just want some gravy on my fries. You guys are cracking me up tonight
Posted by: Diego | Mar 28 2023 6:04 utc | 99
It is tiresome and irksome to try to peruse newspapers and magazines with the "plug and play puppets" who are wheeled out as "experts". Today it is Marcus Keupp in "Focus" but he is everywhere - a "military expert". Yet he did not serve and did Zivildienst instead - even writing a book on Zivildienst and how unfair it was --- listed in Amazon
He is a "military economist" whatever that means........he prophesies Ukrainian victory and defeat of Russia......but is evidence-free and devoid of military experience, but no doubt has a NATO/NED/CIA/Atlantic Council/German Marshall Fund/EU/BND funded job to pontificate and "manufacture consensus"
Does anyone at all do a real job any more ? It is impossible to discern from job titles what people actually do [function] as opposed to what they profess and opine. Maybe that is the rise of Max Headroom and David Byrne in the fictional town of Virgil. TX in "True Stories".......
It is a world of Virtuality commenting on a Brutal reality created by the Matrix Meddlers for Others to act as if in The Colisseum
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Mar 28 2023 6:15 utc | 100
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please replace rabbit with rabid, otherwise I have to think about mustardsauce.
Posted by: dieter | Mar 27 2023 17:50 utc | 1