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March 16, 2023
Open (Not Ukraine) Thread 2023-62
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@ petra | Mar 17 2023 11:42 utc | 104 Posted by: malenkov | Mar 17 2023 11:51 utc | 101 TASS headline this morning, 17 March: Posted by: Elmagnostic | Mar 17 2023 11:55 utc | 102 Republicofscotland | Mar 16 2023 20:14 utc | 5 Posted by: sal | Mar 17 2023 11:56 utc | 103 Walt, Outraged, John Kennard and Petri Krohn (17th Mar 2023 4h33 GMT ~79, 5h31 GMT ~83, 8h37 GMT ~90 and 10h48 GMT ~102, resp. Posted by: petra | Mar 17 2023 11:58 utc | 104 People who rush to post their evidence-, logic-, proportion- and probability-free opinions on everything that comes up are total narcissists, best seen when some poll poses a question that only God could answer (maybe) and hundreds and thousands of Dunning-Krugerites pile in. Posted by: John Kennard | Mar 17 2023 12:02 utc | 105 America is sick. Broke. Now with huddled masses. Posted by: Elmagnostic | Mar 17 2023 12:07 utc | 106 Between my question about youtube and my comment about Sachs above, I have thrice written and sent, with due pause between them, much refreshing, etc., acknowledgment of those suggestions by Walt, Outraged, John Kennard and Petri Krohn, each of which has failed to appear. In any case, thanks for those pointers, which I shall explore. Posted by: petra | Mar 17 2023 12:07 utc | 107 @ John Kennard | Mar 17 2023 12:02 utc | 108 Posted by: John Kennard | Mar 17 2023 12:10 utc | 108 @ malenkov | 17th Mar 2023 11h51 GMT | 105 Posted by: petra | Mar 17 2023 12:11 utc | 109 Russian oil is currently at $45.11, while the ruble fell at $0.013. Posted by: Kramayère | Mar 17 2023 12:12 utc | 110 In the Netherlands the Pro-Farmer party BBB has become the biggest winner in Dutch parliamentary history. BBB will become the biggest party in all the 12 Dutch provinces (only the province of South Holland has still to finish counting of the votes, but it is already clear that BBB has won there as well). It also means that the ruling 4-party coalition of MP Rutte has lost its majority in the Senate (Eerste Kamer) where it was able to survive in the past thanks to the support of the leftist Green Agenda parties. But it seems likely that even with this leftist support the present coalition is unable to reach more than 75 seats (of the 150). Posted by: Oblomovka daydream | Mar 17 2023 12:22 utc | 111 and hundreds and thousands of Dunning-Krugerites pile in. Posted by: jpc | Mar 17 2023 12:46 utc | 112 @ John Kennard | Mar 17 2023 12:10 utc | 111 suzan @64 wrote: Posted by: jinn | Mar 17 2023 13:29 utc | 114 @ Outraged | Mar 17 2023 13:20 utc | 116 Posted by: John Kennard | Mar 17 2023 13:42 utc | 115 I’m not reccing this article, it’s just that at first, reading the title, I expected it to be from The Onion Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 17 2023 13:45 utc | 116 Anybody can access http://www.normanfinkelstein.com? Even a U.S. VPN server doesn’t help. Posted by: RB | Mar 17 2023 13:50 utc | 117 @ RB | Mar 17 2023 13:50 utc | 120 @ Paul Greenwood | Mar 17 2023 8:53 utc | 91 Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 17 2023 15:10 utc | 120 “The Ukrainian conflict will once again divide the world into political blocs led by China, Russia and the United States, Japanese experts believe Posted by: unimperator | Mar 17 2023 15:13 utc | 121 suzan @80 wrote: “Dennis Kucinich and Michael Hudson on the Anatomy of Bank Failures” Posted by: jinn | Mar 17 2023 15:23 utc | 122 Posted by: RB | Mar 17 2023 13:50 utc | 120 Posted by: Oblomovka daydream | Mar 17 2023 15:26 utc | 123 Must see video of Janet Yellen’s Senate testimony from yesterday. Posted by: too scents | Mar 17 2023 15:30 utc | 124 ICC has issued “arrest warrant” of Putin for “war crimes”. This will drag credibility equity to negative for western institutions outside the Waste. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 17 2023 15:37 utc | 125 While Russian culture is mercilessly cancelled in the west Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Mar 17 2023 16:09 utc | 126 The US has sanctioned Venezuela with multiple laws and oligarchical presidential executive orders, the latter listed here.
This stupid US behavior comes under its “rule-based international order.” Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 17 2023 16:17 utc | 127 Indeed Finkelstein’s page works for me now. Thank you for your responses. Posted by: RB | Mar 17 2023 16:19 utc | 128 Alex Vadim | Mar 17 2023 8:36 utc | 89 wrote:
That is what the pundits keep telling us but there is not much evidence that it is accurate. Posted by: jinn | Mar 17 2023 16:25 utc | 129 Posted by: RB | Mar 17 2023 13:50 utc | 121 & 16:19 utc | 132 Posted by: waynorinorway | Mar 17 2023 16:31 utc | 130 Further to malamatias | Mar 16 2023 22:11 utc | 26 (and subsequent posts) on the political situation in France. Posted by: B. Wildered | Mar 17 2023 16:39 utc | 131 Blinken is in Africa, hoping for the US to replace an exiting France in that area, one colonist for another in the Sahel, the vast semi-arid region of Africa separating the Sahara Desert to the north and tropical savannas to the south.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 17 2023 16:43 utc | 132 @ jinn | Mar 17 2023 16:25 utc | 133 Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 17 2023 16:49 utc | 133 Biden goes anti-bank executives:
Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 17 2023 16:52 utc | 134 Russian oil is currently at $45.11, while the ruble fell at $0.013.
U.S. in its arrogance does not do consequences. Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 17 2023 17:00 utc | 135 The International Criminal Court (ICC) on Friday issued an arrest warrant for Russian President Vladimir Putin and another Russian official involving allegations of war crimes around the unlawful deportation of children from Ukraine to Russia . .here Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 17 2023 17:01 utc | 136 Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 17 2023 17:01 utc | 140 Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 17 2023 17:10 utc | 137 @ jinn | Mar 17 2023 16:25 utc | 133 Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 17 2023 17:10 utc | 138 Alex @137 wrote: The problems with SVB began with predatory group of shareholders, who figured out that bank is insolvent due to UNREALIZED LOSS in long term treasury bonds holdings. Posted by: jinn | Mar 17 2023 17:15 utc | 139 Spent a little time this morning reviewing some of Jim Douglass work on JFK. Actually, his is the only full-length book I’ve read about it and generally avoided articles over the years. It seems just too many different theories. Making it clear that most are wrong. Making it fairly obvious that Intelligence was involved. Making it virtually certain that the true facts will be obfuscated. Etc. But Douglass, as a Catholic theologian, writes from an unusual, and deeply personal perspective which end up in refreshing places. Like:
https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/Unspeakable/index.html
I very much doubt such corresondence is ongoing today, albeit perhaps between Russia, China, Iran and India? @ jinn | Mar 17 2023 17:15 utc | 143 Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 17 2023 17:32 utc | 141 the banks want to make money, so their bought politicians would not allow them to be turned into public services. the problem is the banks bought politicans who passed laws written by bank lobbyists to deregulate them, which brought us these latest failures as well as the 2008 financial crisis. Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 17 2023 17:38 utc | 142 Alex wrote Posted by: jinn | Mar 17 2023 17:45 utc | 143 @ malenkov 105 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 17 2023 17:45 utc | 144 @ pretzelattack | Mar 17 2023 17:38 utc | 146 Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 17 2023 17:50 utc | 145 @ jinn | Mar 17 2023 17:45 utc | 146 Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 17 2023 18:00 utc | 146 But been a bit sentimental lately with a wedding coming up, wading through the Brontes, Austen and Hardy. Read Far From the Madding Crowd and followed up last night with this great adaptation from 1967 Posted by: juliania | Mar 17 2023 18:07 utc | 147 @ jinn | Mar 17 2023 17:45 utc | 146 Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 17 2023 18:30 utc | 148 @ DunGroanin 94 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 17 2023 18:53 utc | 149 Live: Protest at French National Assembly after Macron forces pension reforms through without vote Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 17 2023 18:53 utc | 150 London Metal Exchange discovered that a bag of nickel serving underlying paper contracts was actually a bag of “stones”. The era of commodity paper manipulation might be over shortly and real price discovery will come back again. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 17 2023 18:54 utc | 151 @ Outraged | Mar 16 2023 23:45 utc | 43
Thanks Don Bacon and Outraged, will do. Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Mar 17 2023 18:58 utc | 152 @ jinn | Mar 17 2023 17:45 utc | 143 Posted by: too scents | Mar 17 2023 19:01 utc | 153 Alex wrote: “Are you proposing that banks shall stop being a business model for making money ?” Posted by: jinn | Mar 17 2023 19:05 utc | 154 @ Likklemore | Mar 17 2023 17:00 utc | 135 too scents | Mar 17 2023 19:01 utc | 153 Posted by: jinn | Mar 17 2023 19:37 utc | 157 Posted by: jinn | Mar 17 2023 19:37 utc | 157 LightYearsFromHome | Mar 16 2023 22:54 utc | 31
That is the whole point of Greater Euroblabala, it is difficult to get Pierre to shoot Mémé, but Hans won’t have the same problem. I am simplifying here, obviously, but I think you all get the point ! Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Mar 17 2023 20:39 utc | 159 An Irishman dances on a bankers grave – again;) Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 17 2023 21:12 utc | 161 @ jinn | Mar 17 2023 19:05 utc | 154 Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 17 2023 21:38 utc | 162 @ Don Bacon | Mar 17 2023 16:43 utc | 132 Posted by: whirlX | Mar 17 2023 21:42 utc | 163 Giyane | Mar 17 2023 18:53 utc | 149 Posted by: Dick | Mar 17 2023 21:51 utc | 164
Posted by: too scents | Mar 17 2023 19:07 utc | 155 Posted by: West of England Andy | Mar 17 2023 21:59 utc | 165 Apologies for quoting my own post, but thinking on it further –
– probably sums up Modern Monetary Theory in a nutshell. Posted by: West of England Andy | Mar 17 2023 22:02 utc | 166 Posted by: too scents | Mar 17 2023 19:07 utc | 155 Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 17 2023 22:05 utc | 167 Posted by: too scents | Mar 17 2023 19:07 utc | 155 Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 17 2023 22:05 utc | 168 Posted by: too scents | Mar 17 2023 19:07 utc | 155 Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 17 2023 22:06 utc | 169 Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 17 2023 22:05 utc | 167, 168 & 169
“Once three is three, Posted by: West of England Andy | Mar 17 2023 22:15 utc | 170 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 17 2023 21:12 utc | 161 Posted by: jinn | Mar 17 2023 22:23 utc | 171 Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 17 2023 16:49 utc | 133 Posted by: Blissex | Mar 17 2023 22:27 utc | 172 Alex wrote: “Banks are not making money out thin air – wrong assumption” Posted by: jinn | Mar 17 2023 22:36 utc | 173 @ jinn | Mar 17 2023 22:36 utc | 173 Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 17 2023 22:40 utc | 174 @ Blissex | Mar 17 2023 22:27 utc | 172 Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 17 2023 22:49 utc | 175 Posted by: Blissex | Mar 17 2023 22:27 utc | 172
Well your numbers are a bit off and unfortunately accuracy is critically important when it comes to accounting. But you do get points for being closer to the nub of the matter than Alex. Posted by: jinn | Mar 17 2023 22:54 utc | 176 Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Mar 16 2023 23:48 utc | 43 @ jinn | Mar 17 2023 22:36 utc | 173 Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 17 2023 23:21 utc | 178 Alex wrote: Posted by: jinn | Mar 18 2023 0:22 utc | 179 In other news. Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Mar 18 2023 0:28 utc | 180 Seems all Ukielandia is burning once again tonight. This time it appears to be fuel and ammo attracting those little drones, swarming like blackflies early in summer in New England. If the Russians keep ‘running out’ of missiles and drones at the rate they have been, there soon won’t be a meter of Kiev’s land that hasn’t been blasted. Posted by: Jack Gordon | Mar 18 2023 0:37 utc | 181 @ jinn | Mar 18 2023 0:22 utc | 179 Posted by: Alex Vadim | Mar 18 2023 0:48 utc | 182 pretzelattack #169 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 18 2023 1:04 utc | 183 Bad Deal Motors On #180 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 18 2023 1:22 utc | 184 Posted by: juliania | Mar 17 2023 18:07 utc | 147 Posted by: Walt | Mar 18 2023 1:41 utc | 185 The first direct freight train departed from Beijing to Moscow as part of China-Europe rail freight transportation Posted by: hankster | Mar 18 2023 2:04 utc | 186 https://www.thejakartapost.com/business/2023/03/16/jokowi-wants-local-governments-to-ditch-visa-mastercard.html Posted by: Kârlya | Mar 18 2023 2:12 utc | 187 LGB!@68, No link. It was broadcast on fox news radio one time, at night. Sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner, but been under the weather. I don’t really believe anything they say, I still listen. Posted by: Immaculate deception | Mar 18 2023 2:15 utc | 188 Posted by: hankster | Mar 18 2023 2:04 utc | 186
That’s quite a mission. They’ll have to change all those bogies at the China/Mongolia border? Posted by: Walt | Mar 18 2023 2:21 utc | 189 yes i wonder too. the old siberian railway from beijing to Kathmandu was an epic week on old trains winding through the steppes. hop off and stay in old stone huts to breakk up the trip. now its an overnight fast train with long tunnels not mountains. im gather freight isnt fast train. but even the london to beijing was 18-21 days,its 12,000km, a bit faster than sea and way cheaper. kudos if you have been on that siberianjourney, i know i will cherish that myself when a younger man Posted by: hankster | Mar 18 2023 2:49 utc | 190 Multipolarity is Dead Xi Killed It Posted by: Jerr | Mar 18 2023 2:59 utc | 191 I never believed Chinese officials wanted that in the first place. They want unipolarity or, at least, bipolarity with Russia, Brazil, Saudi Arabia, Iran and so on as Beijing’s vassals. Posted by: Trapèze | Mar 18 2023 3:19 utc | 192 ICH is back with a health update from Tom Feeley and includes this extraordinary short clip from Twitter in which a Russian questioner is ordered to leave the building for raising the lack of concern through eight years of Kiev’s assault on the Donbass:
Posted by: Walt | Mar 18 2023 3:39 utc | 193 @ Posted by: RC213V | Mar 17 2023 22:55 utc | 177 Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Mar 18 2023 4:17 utc | 194 @ Posted by: Walt | Mar 18 2023 3:39 utc | 193 Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Mar 18 2023 4:49 utc | 195 @ Walt | Mar 18 2023 1:41 utc | 185 @ West of England Andy | Mar 17 2023 22:02 utc | 166 Posted by: John Kennard | Mar 18 2023 5:42 utc | 197 Posted by: waynorinorway | Mar 17 2023 16:31 utc | 130 Posted by: Paul GV | Mar 18 2023 7:02 utc | 198 Kârlya #187
Union Pay would be one alternative to link to given the immense trade between Indonesia and China. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 18 2023 7:19 utc | 199 Posted by: hankster | Mar 18 2023 2:04 utc | 186 Posted by: laguerre | Mar 18 2023 8:22 utc | 200 |
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