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March 9, 2023
Open (Not Ukraine) Thread 2023-57
News & views (not related to the war in Ukraine) …
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You most likely have heard proclaimed in the MSM_of_Lies the latest high-tech Russian weaponry deployed, that the Empire has claimed allowed RF forces to drive AFU troops before them, if not in stark raving horrified terror, in Bahkmut, Avdiivka & elsewhere recently.
Intro – History – Combat – Everyday Use – Outro. I thought that the string of the articles by Jorge Vilches will be of interest to Europeans, re destroying their industry and warming their homes. Posted by: stranger | Mar 9 2023 15:36 utc | 3 New Posted by: Dave Oneil | Mar 9 2023 15:44 utc | 4 I see that after US pressure the Parliament of Georgia has withdrawn a Bill requiring the registration of all foreign agents. Large protests (many signs in English) to push Russia out of South Ossetia have also erupted. Posted by: Sanctions R US | Mar 9 2023 15:56 utc | 5 «Large protests (many signs in English) to push Russia out of South Ossetia have also erupted.» Posted by: Blissex | Mar 9 2023 16:20 utc | 6 canadian politicians adament no foreign interference will occur. ignore klaus video bragging he owns canadian politicians for the WEF. Posted by: hankster | Mar 9 2023 16:20 utc | 7 Posted by: Blissex | 6 Posted by: Engineer-John | Mar 9 2023 17:13 utc | 8 Today Putin received a very interesting report from the Director of the Federal Service for Financial Resources Yuri Chikhanchin about the campaign against financial fraud and terrorist activities within the financial realm that were negated, along with related information dealing with the numbers of criminal cases launched and monies recovered. I found it rather fascinating, particularly attacks by fraudsters at any budget related support system where they create fake people and/or businesses and apply for state grants. Also the work involved in aiding Russian businesses whose assets are illegally tagged by sanctions is discussed. Yes, the transcript’s in Russian as usual, but most now know who to get it translated into their native language. Posted by: Blissex | Mar 9 2023 16:20 utc | 6 Posted by: Colin | Mar 9 2023 17:26 utc | 10 @ Engineer-John | Mar 9 2023 17:13 utc | 8
Canada’s “foreign agent” (aka Chinese) imbroglio is a 5 Eyes production, having played out previously in USA, UK, and Australia. Anonymous intelligence agents leak to friendly media and whipping up an opaque storm in which concepts such as “interference” are not defined, and neither actual material wrongdoing ever described. It boils down to vague “intentions” on behalf of nefarious evil-doers against whom the public and election processes must be protected. And if it can create a stampede which removes an elected government in favour of its right-wing opposition – so much the better. Either way, the “interference” concept is cemented in the public. Posted by: jayc | Mar 9 2023 17:44 utc | 12
Despite sanctions, Russia is more developed with wealthier, as well as more educated and fertile, population than China. Posted by: Rasie | Mar 9 2023 17:56 utc | 13 Today Lavrov met with his Saudi counterpart and held a presser after their talks. IMO, this article needs to be read along with the statement made by Lavrov about the Syrian situation. I’ve thought about the following formulation for several years now, using Lavrov’s words to describe it:
I must further promote The Cradle, the source for the article linked above, as it’s becoming an important source of information for West Asia and the Arab world, which includes much of Africa. Rasie @13– Looks like animal abuse has become part of the Outlaw US Empire’s Diplomatic War against China as this Global Times editorial explores, “We are not willing to believe that anyone would abuse giant pandas: Global Times editorial”:
Yes, there are a great many perverts like the one described within the Outlaw US Empire that are deranged to the point of mass shootings of Chinese/Asians and they are reflected within Congress as noted. Similar derangement exists within official government documents like the just released so-called “Threat Assessment” where truth and reality are grossly perverted. But given the Empire’s Genocidal actions now and in the past, willful animal abuse cannot be ruled out, and Chinese are completely right to be concerned and angry. I wouldn’t believe Washington would want to balkanize Russia because that would be a disaster to deal with. Western officials would want a puppet government who would integrate with Western hegemony in ways which favor Washington and irritate Beijing. In many ways, Beijing would actually stand a lot more to gain from a weakened or balkanized one than Washington would, which would be a big reason that its support of Moscow had been laughably lukewarm after decades of empty promises to build a multipolar world. Posted by: Kamace | Mar 9 2023 19:01 utc | 17 G-SIB Timber called in bankland.
Who is your banker? The financial collapse has been ongoing since September 2019; trillions printed to shore up the dyke with a band-aid and we are being distracted by Ukies. Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 9 2023 19:04 utc | 18 Why isn’t anyone discussing the stunning new relegations revealed this week regarding the 1/6 ( sucessful ) coup in Washington ? Posted by: Exile | Mar 9 2023 19:08 utc | 19 Washington and its vassals could increasingly impose harsh sanctions on Beijing – This would considerably slow China’s development down and considering its development growth was already slower than countries like Bosnia-Herzegovina, Kazakhstan and Georgia… Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Mar 9 2023 19:14 utc | 20 According to OECD, 18% of China’s ‘adult’ population had completed tertiary education… That’s between 50% and 57% for United States and Russia. Posted by: Trinity | Mar 9 2023 19:36 utc | 21 Exile @19– People were laughing at Sergey Lavrov. Posted by: Dosare | Mar 9 2023 19:38 utc | 23 China’s geoeconomic connectivity is such that any attempt to disconnect as Trump tried will fail and cause great damage to the nation(s) following that sort of policy. Idiot commentators ignore the vast significance of China’s domestic market and its friendly trade partners to drive its economy–China’s domestic market is greater than the USA and EU combined. PRC is hopelessly behind in critical technologies and is deficient in military, diplomatic and economic capabilities to seriously compete with USA. CPC constantly lied and dressed its dire position up with meaningless theories and numbers. In reality, its authoritarian system frustrated innovation and prevented from working effectively to resolve many crises that beset the country. Despite what CPC would like everyone to believe about its power, this is a complete paper tiger and hardly a credible threat that Washington would need to worry much about. CPC had always been a backward party that oppressed its own people and still is. Posted by: Erisagi | Mar 9 2023 19:50 utc | 26 How about some weekend podcast entertainment? Check out a true story of family, fraud and power in the American West. A $244 million theft from Tyson Foods. You’ll enjoy. Six episodes, around 22 minutes each. It’s good. Posted by: PI | Mar 9 2023 20:05 utc | 27 @ Erisagi | Mar 9 2023 19:50 utc | 26 with the delusional and humorous comment Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 9 2023 20:15 utc | 28 Brian Berletic’s Newatlas Channel – Posted by: MiniMo | Mar 9 2023 20:24 utc | 29 @karlof1 | Mar 9 2023 19:47 utc | 25
Reinforcements are sent into the MoA cauldron, but cannot keep up with the casualties. Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 9 2023 20:25 utc | 30 “You will see changes never seen for centuries before.” – Xi Jinping Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 9 2023 20:33 utc | 31 Seems like Russian media are slowly but surely spreading ‘sinophobic’ propaganda : During some debate on Russia-1, one of hosts described Beijing as ‘unreliable partner’. Posted by: Chocolatine | Mar 9 2023 20:50 utc | 32 The US is now officially a self-declared Kleptocracy
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 9 2023 21:23 utc | 33 Wise Karlof1 is back, but where is equally wise bevin? Posted by: Northern Eve | Mar 9 2023 21:24 utc | 34 Posted by: Rasie | Mar 9 2023 17:56 utc | 13 Posted by: Surferket | Mar 9 2023 21:35 utc | 35 “by: Exile | Mar 9 2023 19:08 utc | 19” Posted by: Dalit | Mar 9 2023 21:37 utc | 36 Personal Peeve Western price cap scheme on Russian oil is collapsing
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 9 2023 22:05 utc | 38 Stonebird @37– The similarities between 1/6 and the Reichstag Fire are striking. Posted by: Lysias | Mar 9 2023 22:18 utc | 40 Shipping arms to Russia sounds like carrying water to the sea. Posted by: Passerby | Mar 9 2023 22:28 utc | 41 First time posting here. Reader for a while. Posted by: rext | Mar 9 2023 22:35 utc | 42 Norwegian @39
To quote VVP, “What good is a world without Russia?” Posted by: robjira | Mar 9 2023 22:38 utc | 43 Norwegian @39– Most of China wouldn’t even be as developed as Chechnya, Surferket… Posted by: Kar Lyta | Mar 9 2023 23:32 utc | 45 And now we’ve seen the PRC diplomatic game play out. First the proposed peace framework, rejected out of hand by the US. And then we get the statement that China will supply arms to Russia in proportion to US supplies to Taiwan. I wonder how they’ll calculate it? By dollar equivalent would be funny. I’ll bet Russia can get a lot of 152mm artillery shells at Chinese internal procurement costs for the amount of military aid the US gives Taiwan. Posted by: Lex | Mar 9 2023 23:37 utc | 46 @ Northern Eve | Mar 9 2023 21:24 utc Posted by: malenkov | Mar 10 2023 0:01 utc | 47 Rasie @ 13: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Mar 10 2023 0:19 utc | 48 Posted by: Lex | Mar 9 2023 23:37 utc | 47 Posted by: Surferket | Mar 10 2023 0:22 utc | 49 Posted by: Kar Lyta | Mar 9 2023 23:32 utc | 46 Posted by: Surferket | Mar 10 2023 0:28 utc | 50 Re the US bullshit that China is sending arms to Russia, just remember that earlier US bullshitted about North Korea munitions to Russia, then Iranian drones to Russia. Posted by: Surferket | Mar 10 2023 0:35 utc | 51 Anya Parampil explores how the USA establishment pays for Nick Fuentes and his savages to destroy a conservative NON establishment candidate.
The USA is in a state of permanent revolution – a colour revolution without end. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 10 2023 0:39 utc | 52 It is obvious that amerika and its satraps are becoming increasingly desperate, hence today’s sockpuppetry by a rather lame troll to try and drive a wedge between opponents of the proxy war by lying to create some type of dichotomy between the aims of China & those of Russia. Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 10 2023 0:40 utc | 53 Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 10 2023 0:40 utc | 54 Posted by: Surferket | Mar 10 2023 0:47 utc | 54 And here’s an article on why US is hyping the bullshit tbat China is sending weapons to Russia. Posted by: Surferket | Mar 10 2023 1:02 utc | 55 @ malenkov | Mar 10 2023 0:01 utc | 48 Posted by: suzan | Mar 10 2023 1:02 utc | 56 NASA will replace Roscosmos in one of ESA’s projects. Posted by: Coquette | Mar 10 2023 1:06 utc | 57 Finding examples of the synergy existing between Russia’s science, research, and industry are hard to find, but I do come across them on occasion. From 30 Jan 2023, “First Russian LNG Tanker Design”:
The gas to make the polymers is Russian processed at a Russian petrochemical plant and so forth–100% vertical integration of the entire process to build the ship and all its components. The company, Atomenergomash, is a subsidiary of Rosatom, which is owned by the Russian people. Such ownership arrangements are seldom allowed in Neoliberal captured nations. Posted by: Coquette | Mar 10 2023 1:06 utc | 58 Posted by: Surferket | Mar 10 2023 1:11 utc | 59 Another new barfly couldn’t handle its booze and puked on the floor, which makes several now on this thread alone. It needs to go off to a troll rehab center to get its brain rearranged. For those pushing the bullshit that communist Soviet Union cannot do anything right should remember that the SU was responsible for world’s first satellite, and first man in space. Posted by: Surferket | Mar 10 2023 1:18 utc | 61 @ suzan | Mar 10 2023 1:02 utc | 57 Posted by: malenkov | Mar 10 2023 1:22 utc | 62 @ Surferket | Mar 10 2023 0:35 utc | 52 Posted by: suzan | Mar 10 2023 1:29 utc | 63 @ Norwegian | Mar 9 2023 20:25 utc | 30 Everything is perfectly fine, A-OK …
Tucker Carlson and Jimmy Dore on the Congressional Committee hearings and whitewash of the January 6 ‘ransacking’ of the US capitol. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 10 2023 2:19 utc | 66 Pattern: keep oil power in Anglo hands at relatively high prices (and in dollar$). See Aramco, two Gulf wars, Libyan destruction, sanctions on Iran, Syria and Russia. Also (international) laws to protect “the environment” in any areas of possible new oil finds, both Poles, Many coastal and ocean beds, many land areas, so no new finds can flood the monopoly market. Posted by: Antonym | Mar 10 2023 2:19 utc | 67 Georgia, Ukraine Posted by: migueljose | Mar 10 2023 2:27 utc | 68 26 this isnt SKY NEWS where your comment will be thumbs up from other ignorants like yourself. Posted by: hankster | Mar 10 2023 2:38 utc | 69 Lethal R-37/R-37M Vympel hypersonic AA(~400Km) missile operable … game changer for Iran … multi generation/capability leap …
Mexico (“…Poor Mexico! So far from God– so close to the United States!” Porfirio Diaz, 1910)… Even thugs come up with good one-liners sometimes. Posted by: migueljose | Mar 10 2023 2:41 utc | 71 Do the trolls not understand the laws of diminishing returns?….lol Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 10 2023 2:56 utc | 73 Matt Taibbi:
Here: https://scheerpost.com/2023/03/09/matt-taibbi-my-statement-to-congress/ Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 10 2023 3:02 utc | 74 The comment below is meant to be educational and I apologize to “two centes” for making them an example. Since we are being challenged more by childish behavior, folks need to learn how to detect a troll using someone else’s moniker information Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 10 2023 3:06 utc | 75 Thus spake Chris Hedges at the rage against the war machine:
read on… Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 10 2023 3:21 utc | 76 psychohistorian #74 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 10 2023 3:27 utc | 77 @ Outraged | Mar 10 2023 2:47 utc | 73
Iran has the US Department of the Treasury spinning in circles trying to enact sanctions on a vast network of ghost front companies. Iran has almost fifty years of doing it, so it knows how.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 10 2023 3:42 utc | 79 @ uncle tungsten | Mar 10 2023 3:27 utc | 78 with the Twitter serendipity….LOL Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 10 2023 3:47 utc | 80 Posted by: rext | Mar 9 2023 22:35 utc | 43 re ASPI Posted by: Walt | Mar 10 2023 3:49 utc | 81 psychohistorian #81 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 10 2023 3:52 utc | 82 Huge budget deficit is building up in Russia’s economy. Posted by: Morene | Mar 10 2023 3:58 utc | 83 It’s a four-fer if China can grab an island from the Philippines which once belonged to Taiwan while the US looks on despite its treaty with the Philippines, and despite Vietnam’s claiming the island. Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 10 2023 4:02 utc | 84 outraged@79 thank you for the link to presstv. it’s been an incredible day: lavrov calling israel occupied palestine, china check mating empire on weapons sent to taiwan. it seems the Rest of Humanity has begun to act in unison. Posted by: emersonreturn | Mar 10 2023 4:31 utc | 85 excellent discussion/lecture about underwater demolition with explosives Posted by: fanto | Mar 10 2023 4:42 utc | 86 Sorry, here the link to the video Posted by: fanto | Mar 10 2023 4:49 utc | 87 The Infographics Show uploaded a video about how a civil war in Russia could be like. Posted by: Fraise | Mar 10 2023 5:06 utc | 88 Michael Shellenberger and Matt Taibbi testified this morning before the USG House Judiciary Committee Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government at their Hearing on the Weaponization of the Federal Government on the Twitter Files.
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi Posted by: suzan | Mar 10 2023 5:35 utc | 89 In further puerile troll news… Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 10 2023 5:36 utc | 90 Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 10 2023 3:47 utc | 81 Posted by: juliania | Mar 10 2023 5:42 utc | 91 India bought Russian oil at hefty discount, along with China. With the drop in oil prices and especially urals crude, Russia would make almost no profit on this when expenses, including shipping, insurance and so, are added. EU’s very lucrative market, previous its biggest buyer, is gone for good. Posted by: Jaguar | Mar 10 2023 5:47 utc | 92 Posted by: Surferket | Mar 10 2023 0:35 utc | 52 Posted by: unimperator | Mar 10 2023 5:48 utc | 93 Within two years, Russia will be irrelevant – No army, no economy, no ally. Posted by: Jevo Twit | Mar 10 2023 5:50 utc | 94 Below is the posting title of a ZH piece exposing more US corruption
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 10 2023 5:51 utc | 95 Posted by: Jaguar | Mar 10 2023 5:47 utc | 92 Posted by: unimperator | Mar 10 2023 5:56 utc | 96 “Russia would be paying $40 for Russian oil.” meant “China would be paying $40 for Russian oil” Posted by: unimperator | Mar 10 2023 5:57 utc | 97 uncle tungsten | Mar 10 2023 3:52 utc | 83 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 10 2023 6:06 utc | 98 Having a bit of spare time this afternoon I thought I would analyse the timestamps on the proliferation of unwelcome troll posts. All utc. Posted by: Walt | Mar 10 2023 6:28 utc | 99 Tonight from Reuters
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 10 2023 6:36 utc | 100 |
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