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March 15, 2023
New Bakhmut Report: High Casualties – Low Morale – Russian Tactics

Last week I explained why Bakhmut is falling. The piece included long excerpts from a piece published by Kyiv Independent. The reporter had talked with soldiers who had been at the Bakhmut front. Their description of the situation there was devastating.

Now a different reporter for Kyiv Independent has a somewhat similar report:

Battle of Bakhmut: Ukrainian soldiers worry Russians begin to ‘taste victory’

You should read that report as I will not fully cover it. But want to quote some passages as they nicely confirm my other recent piece about the real casualty rates of Ukrainian soldiers in Bakhmut.

Pulling away the propaganda and general sentiment stuff there is this:

Just days before heading back to fight in the Battle of Bakhmut, a Ukrainian soldier Volodymyr, 54, said he felt ill-prepared.

"When they drive us to Bakhmut, I already know I'm being sent to death," Volodymyr told the Kyiv Independent during his brief stay in Kramatorsk, a city in Donetsk Oblast some 25 kilometers west of the front line.

"(The Russians) keep firing at us, but we don't have artillery – so we have nothing to attack them back with," Volodymyr said. "I don't know if I will return or not. We are just getting killed."

Ukrainian infantrymen interviewed by the Kyiv Independent described the fighting in Bakhmut as a desperate survival challenge against Russia's "infinite" stocks of artillery munitions and manpower. With just their machine guns and rifles, they say they braced relentless Russian mortar and artillery attacks until their hideout was eventually destroyed.

Valeriy, a Ukrainian infantryman, says that most of his fallen comrades were fatally wounded by projectile fragments.

"It's a pity that probably 90% of our losses are from artillery – or tanks and aviation," Valeriy told the Kyiv Independent a few hours after leaving the Bakhmut front. "And much less (casualties) from shooting battles."

Valeriy counted that "only a few" of the original 27 members of his platoon got out of the Bakhmut front with him, though he explained that most of them were wounded, not killed.

"The Russians have so many weapons, and there are so many of them," Valeriy said. "They are firing at us all the time. Sometimes, you hear an incoming every second."

Artillery is, as expected, the big killer in Bakhmut. While there are also many wounded the chances for them to eventually survive is not that big. Artillery wounds are notoriously unclean and slow to heal. There are allegedly Ukrainian orders that slightly wounded men must just be patched up and immediately send back to the front. Working in muddy battle trenches with notoriously bad sanitary conditions practically guarantees that those patched up wounds will then get infected.

The Russian artillery advantage is reportedly 10 to 1. Artillery is causing high casualty rates. Any claim that Russian casualty rates are higher than those on the Ukrainian side are defying the logical conclusion from those facts.

Back to the frontline:

Infantryman Vladyslav from the 58th Independent Motorized Infantry Brigade says many soldiers in his platoon have refused to go to Bakhmut as Russians came closer.

Multiple soldiers from other brigades also said they’ve encountered many "refusers" who did everything not to be deployed back to Bakhmut.

During the last rotation in late February, Vladyslav said that only eight out of 25 soldiers in his platoon headed out to Bakhmut – and the rest said they couldn't go because of sudden fever or body pain.

The eight then headed to a position at a crossroad near the Bakhmutka River, where destroyed houses lined up. The platoon came under heavy Russian mortar fire as soon as they arrived.

Two were killed, and two were severely wounded – one soldier lost his arm, and the other was hit in the stomach by a projectile, Vladyslav said. The rest, including Vladyslav himself, received a severe concussion.

They were all evacuated from Bakhmut that day and lost the position.

That short engagement with 50% losses and severe concussions for the rest make reports of only 4 hour survival time in Bakhmut plausible.

The following description of the Russian style of fighting in Bakhmut is interesting. The tactic is designed to have as few casualties as possible. This also defies claims of 'human wave' attacks:

Infantryman Vladyslav said that the Russians would usually appear in a group of about five people at night, but they seemed "scared" to launch close-range attacks.

So instead, the Russians would use mass firepower to destroy the houses – where the Ukrainians hid to monitor invading forces – to the point that they were forced to abandon the position to seek another position with better protection, according to Vladyslav.

"They are (now) fighting smartly, too," Vladyslav said.

Another soldier confirms the take:

Maksym, 33, an infantryman from the 5th Separate Assault Brigade, said the Russians also had an established tactic in the southern area near Bakhmut.

The infantryman from Kyiv was deployed on the Ivanivske front, at the southwest outskirts of Bakhmut, throughout February 2023, where fierce fighting rages over a strategic village that sits on one of the key routes into the city.

Relying heavily on drones, the Russians would locate Ukraine's positions in the area. They would then fire multiple rounds of mortar and artillery, which would then be followed by infantry assaults, in an attempt to encircle Ukrainian soldiers, according to Maksym.

If the drones cannot detect Ukrainian positions, the Russians will send a few soldiers to fire gunshots until they hear return fire, according to Maksym.

As brutal as they may be, the Russian tactics have slowly worked and pushed back Maksym's unit by 1.5 kilometers in total throughout February.

It is a slow grinding business: reconnaissance-artillery fire, reconnaissance-artillery fire, reconnaissance-artillery fire-storm the position. Done well it leads to high losses on the defending side and small losses on the attacking one.


Source: Live UA mapbigger

For lack of other means the Ukrainian army will continue with its costly positional defense tactic:

The village of Ivanivske, which sits on the highway to Kostyantynivka and is located only eight kilometers from Bakhmut, is among the settlements Ukrainian forces are fortifying.

A deputy company commander from the 80th Brigade, known under the call sign Third, told the Kyiv Independent that trenches were being dug out alongside the highway from Ivanivske to Kostyantynivka to prevent a Russian breakthrough in Ivanivske. The “operational pause” in the fighting in the areas further away from Bakhmut has been helpful to build fortifications.

"If the Russians capture Bakhmut, they will advance further to the south, to Ivanivske, then to Chasiv Yar, and further to the west," said Third, 45, who has served since 2014. "We are preparing in advance."

"At the moment, there is enough (defense)," he said of defending the rest of the region from Russians if Bakhmut falls. "But it's for now, and I do not know what the enemy will do next."

No one knows and that is the point.

Comments

I have waited over a year to add to the conversation. Only to say, THANK YOU to all who post here. Thank you to the regulars and to those who offer detail and strategic overview.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” — George Orwell
That describes you PERFECTLY.
I was halfway taken in by the MSM propaganda until Feb 24, and have not gone back since. I can understand how so many remain fooled by this barrage of lies.
Having been terrorized by the MIC since I was 9 years old (Duck and Cover) it didn´t take much further notice for me to escape the USA for over half of the past year. It is somewhat disorienting to wake up mornings and realize I am NOT under the nuclear bullseye on this day.
It is biologically insane — counter to the survival instinct — to participate in the USA´s self-immolation.
I am mostly convinced that only an economic constriction will cause the Neocons to be forced to abandon this obsession with conquest of Russia. Hopefully, this is the process we are now seeing.
I can read here the tremendous sympathy for the Ukr soldiers fooled into participating in a suicidal civil war against their Russian neighbors. Dying in a ditch is no way to make a living. Soldiers have been used and abandoned throughout history. Each man´s guts torn out by a weapon is a personal tragedy felt by each of us, whether it be Gettysburg, Verdun, or a thousand other unneeded conflicts. ¨Didn´t think it would happen to me.¨ Well, duhhhh!!!
Thank you to all. ¨People go mad in crowds; they come to their senses one by one.¨

Posted by: Bagration | Mar 15 2023 22:56 utc | 101

BTW, if anyone here is a paid subscriber to Simplicius’ Substack, note that he is now implementing a “Weekly Mailbag” Q&A for his paid subscribers only. You can send him questions and he will give you a detailed answer on a specific day.
His schedule for this week: “Schedule will be: Tomorrow (Thursday) a new SITREP, Friday maybe a new article, and Saturday or Sunday the Mailbag answers.”
Too bad free subscribers like me don’t get to read the answers, but hey, motivation to subscribe. His subscription rates are $8/month, or $80/year. Might be worth it if the questions his subscribers ask are interesting and probing enough to get good answers. I might even be tempted.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 15 2023 23:04 utc | 102

@Paul Greenwood | Mar 15 2023 16:18 utc | 49
You could also have mentioned SS Colonel Walter Rauff, former head of the II D office of the Reichssicherheitshauptamt (RSHA), then later advisor to the Syrian president and spy for Israel. His case was not unique, according to Haaretz:
https://www.haaretz.com/2007-03-29/ty-article/in-the-service-of-the-jewish-state/0000017f-e0e7-d38f-a57f-e6f7ee420000?_amp=true
Rauff died in his bed. He had been helpful to the Allies as well, as virtue is always rewarded. See IMT, IV, doc. 2348-PS.
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/2348-ps.asp
OT, apologies.

Posted by: Leuk | Mar 16 2023 0:02 utc | 103

The conflict will continue until one side or the other is broken. Utterly. Spiritually.
It has nothing to do with territory. The conflict is about ideas.
Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2023 22:36 utc | 103
Territory is a big part of it. It is about power and control and the globalist want to own everything and everyone.

Posted by: MiniMo | Mar 16 2023 1:00 utc | 104

Of interest are the ages of the Ukrainian soldiers that are being interviewed – there seem to be very few in their 20s and a lot in their 40s and 50s

Posted by: KAN | Mar 16 2023 1:09 utc | 105

Interesting conversation I had earlier with my Director about her son serving in the US military. He is currently stationed in Seattle, WA.
I was asking her what his position was in the army and she was telling me he is a medic and continued on by saying that he/they had an order to pack up and be ready to ship to UKRAINE! But, the order was cancelled later. This explains that the imbeciles in WA DC are planning direct intervention in Ukraine at some point. “Escalation” of hostilities and war is definitely on US menu. From what I have read so far on this site and other alternative website news is that Russians are aware of US intentions and are prepared for their involvement. Let’s hope it doesn’t turn into a nuclear exchange.

Posted by: TruthSeeker | Mar 16 2023 1:09 utc | 106

@
There will be absolutely no agreement without Russia controlling all of Ukraine and putting a Military District in western Ukraine to counter the NATO increased threat from Poland and the Aegis Ashore installations there and in Romania.
As Scott Ritter has said, anything less than that means Russia has lost the war.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 15 2023 22:36 utc | 102
Exactly. Mucho, Mucho Gracias. Merci.
For some, it requires being repetitive.
• RF must Control ALL of UKR to the western borders.
• Odessa must be taken. NATO has it on their Menu for a coveted port on the Black Sea; and there is a Criminal Court ready to bring Nazis to justice for burning people alive in the Union building.
• De-NATOfy all post 1991 countries’ memberships; especially Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, and the troublesome 3: Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia.

Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 16 2023 1:30 utc | 107

Some videos for today.
RT follows Russian forces in their battle for ground and skies in the Lugansk Republic:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/Zhdanov_Lugansk_1503:6
Russian Tornado MLRS pounds enemy position:
https://rutube.ru/video/1c366bb18f990bdee70630ec60c3e3b2/
Russian howitzers strikes enemy position:
https://rutube.ru/video/db8ae79ca939425ff98b442dbded4ea3/
Russian Msta-B howitzer fires at the enemy:
https://rutube.ru/video/01c0b419e6243bccc6423a38046707b6/
Msta-S self-propelled howitzers destroy camouflaged Kiev regime positions:
https://odysee.com/@SputnikInternational:c/25367548:b
Russian Su-25s conduct airstrikes:
https://rutube.ru/video/e4f34e077819fff94f553ca83c3af949/
Russian airborne sapper brigades conduct combat missions:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/sappers_1503:e

Posted by: Nate | Mar 16 2023 1:30 utc | 108

Opening Remarks by Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III at the Tenth Ukraine Defense Contact Group
Mar 15
. . .But we are now at a crucial time in the course of Ukraine’s fight for freedom And we must all demonstrate our continued resolve and unity. That means following through on our commitments—fully and quickly.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 15 2023 14:54 utc | 28
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Ukraine was free before 2014 US backed coup (at least as free as anyone else under capitalist “democracy.” At least then they had the right and freedom to choose peace with their neighbor: Russia. After the US/NATO took control of the Ukrainian governmental structures, including the military and the police, the decision to wage a bloody war with Russia was already made for them deep in the Bowles of Washington D.C. and not in the voting booth of Ukraine.
This is what Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III calls FREEDOM because this is freedom under a Bourgeois democracy, which is really a dictatorship of the minority.

Posted by: Ed | Mar 16 2023 1:43 utc | 109

What really pisses me off is that we (Canada) are besties if we are talking friends of the Ukrainian fascists.
I grew up believing Canada was a socialist as opposed to fascist country. Apparently I was mistaken.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 15 2023 17:01 utc | 62
I concur. Though I correctly viewed the Harperistas as fascist adjacent, since they could not possibly be any more obsequious and accommodating to the Bush neocon cabal’s program, starring John Bolton and Dick Cheney, flash forward to 2023 and we have a deputy PM who is seen by the RF as even more pro-Nazi than her own infamously Nazi elite grandpa, such that she is banned from entering Russia, a penalty not even awarded to the likes of American politicians publicly calling for the murder of President Putin on high profile U.S. media broadcasts, such as the lovely Lady Lindsay Graham, for example.

Posted by: nwwoods | Mar 16 2023 1:47 utc | 110

Exactly right.
Not a point for quibble or disagreement. Putin et. al. not only mean business. They know and have stated what their business is. That plain and that simple.
Vilifying Russians has limited benefit. They did OK in so many areas. Russian mathematician Nikolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky around 1830 is worth noting for his non-Euclidian math. The Bolshoi Ballet had disappeared from Western Media because, oh horrors, they are Russian.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 16 2023 1:51 utc | 111

@ Ed | Mar 16 2023 1:43 utc | 114
Yes indeed. Also, FREEDOM is the right and ability to regulate or ban corrosive NGOs unless, of course, they’re American NGOs.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 16 2023 1:51 utc | 112

@
It has nothing to do with territory. The conflict is about ideas.
Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2023 22:36 utc | 103
Keep hugging that thought: “The conflict is about ideas.”
Not ideas.
Russia has the largest land mass on earth with coveted resources and the plan has been to dismember Russia into 8 manageable states, kick down the doors and steal…something that the west does naturally. (US is stealing Syria’s oil).
If the conflict is about ideas, there is no need for a plan to dismember.
Here is a helpful read:
The Plan to Carve Up Russia by Mike Whitney
January 5, 2023
LINK

Last week, Angela Merkel confirmed what many analysts have been saying for years, that Washington’s hostile relations with Russia –which date back more than a century– have nothing to do with ideology, ‘bad behavior’ or alleged “unprovoked aggression”.
Russia’s primary offense is that it occupies a strategic area of the world that contains vast natural resources and which is critical to Washington’s “pivot to Asia” plan. Russia’s real crime is that its mere existence poses a threat to the globalist project to spread US military bases across Central Asia, encircle China, and become the regional hegemon in the world’s most prosperous and populous region.[.] (original emphasis)

You are welcome.

Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 16 2023 1:52 utc | 113

Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 16 2023 1:52 utc | 118
I think too scents might have meant “the idea to dismember Russia”, whereas Russia’s “idea” is to dismember NATO. Both are about territory and also not about territory. It’s not a binary issue. Territory is always involved because most of us don’t float in the air. 🙂 But at the same time, the “idea” of relations and who controls what territory is important as well. People get “ideas” about who should be allowed to do what with what – that’s what causes most of the trouble in the world.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 16 2023 2:23 utc | 114

Remember that dodgy nerve gas of Libyan origin which found it way via Turkey to Al Nusra to Douma …. ?
Now a few tons of low grade Uranium has gone missing from a storage site in the Libyan desert …. not sure if it’s good enough quality for a false flag via Azovite Banderites in Ukraine ?
No correlation implied … maybe I’m just skeptically suspicious … or just getting older and wiser ?
On Bakmut : lies, lies and dodgy videotapes … and no sex in WMSM …
Horrendous what those Ukrainian lambs to the slaughter are experiencing – much more of this and the odds on revolt within the ranks are shortening all the time.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 16 2023 2:51 utc | 115

Socialism and Fascism are both necessarily totalitarian, which is why many confusedly conflate them, but they are quite different.
In socialism, the state owns the enterprises, and the managers respond to inputs from their political masters. Under fascism, oligarchs own the enterprises, and respond to market signals from rigged markets. It’s bad, but it’s marginally more efficient than the socialist model.
Canada provides excellent examples in its rigged dairy and egg markets. Boffins for the government issue ‘quota’ for the year; farmers are allowed to produce up to their quota and receive a set price for that; no worrying about messy supply and demand. Canadians paid higher prices for eggs and milk than their US neighbours did. However, there were eggs and milk in the stores all through the pandemic, unlike the US. So the fascist model doesn’t result in the lower prices of a free enterprise system, but it does provide a consistent and quality supply, compared to the socialist system.
As a child, I was always shown pictures of people lining up for random goods in Eastern Europe, and Chinese people living a few steps up from starvation. Then Gorby and Deng realized the socialist model was ruining their countries, and they both ditched it. We all know how badly the West ‘helped’ Russia make its transition; the Chinese seemed to have come out a bit better. In both cases, the countries are much richer with a fascist model than with a socialist one.

Posted by: FrankDrakman | Mar 16 2023 2:55 utc | 116

Lots of talk. . .
Ukraine Defense Contact Group meeting Jan 20, 2023
The contact group also discussed Ukraine’s requirements for tanks and other armored vehicles. Austin noted the United Kingdom is sending Challenger 2 main battle tanks to Ukraine — the first Western nation to do so. Sweden announced it is donating CB-90 infantry fighting vehicles, and Denmark will donate 19 howitzers. . .here
Ukraine Defense Contact Group meeting Feb 14, 2023
Contact group members are supplying Ukraine with main combat tanks, including Challenger tanks from the United Kingdom, reconditioned T-72 tanks from a number of countries, Leopard 2 tanks from Germany and several other countries, and M1A2 Abrams tanks from the United States. . .here
Ukraine Defense Contact Group Virtual Meeting
Mar 15, 2023
Sweden has announced that it will provide Ukraine with 10 Leopard tanks and key air defense components. Norway is partnering with the United States to donate two NASAM systems to Ukraine. The Netherlands is making great progress in initiate — initiating new contracts to ensure that new capabilities continue to arrive on the battlefield. And I want to thank Slovenia for its latest contribution which helps meet several of Ukraine’s priority requirements, including armor. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 16 2023 2:59 utc | 117

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦💀 Military Expert Boris Rozhin on the Situation in the #Artyomovsk (#Bakhmut) Sector on the Evening of 15 Mar 2023; pub. 23:37⚡️
🔹North:
➖ #Zaliznyanskoye (west of #Soledar, note) has been liberated today.
➖ Advance is ongoing at Orekhovo-Vasilyevka. The village itself has not yet been taken. Nevertheless, the enemy front to the northwest of the settlement is clearly crackling.
➖ Fighting continues near #Bogadnovka.
➖ And there is a rolling assault on #Khromovo. So far, it has not been possible to gain a full foothold in #Khromovo because of heavy artillery fire. Nevertheless, there has been a progress as well.
🔥 All roads to #Artyomovsk are covered by artillery. Moreover, there are already (Russian, note) ATGM arrivals on the road through #Khromovo.
🔹South:
➖ Fighting continued near #Krasnoye. The enemy is trying to push back our troops from the Chasov Yar – #Krasnoye – #Artemovsk road, but has not yet succeeded.
➖ Our troops continued their assault operations east of #Krasnoye, in the direction of #Khromovo (to the north, note).
➖ Assault action is in progress towards the southwestern exit of the (#Krasnoye, note) borough.
🔹City:
➖ Advance continues in the industrial zone of the AZOM plant.
➖ Advance towards the city centre from the southeast.
➖ The west bank of the river from the industrial zone and the meat processing plant is being secured.
📌 In General, supply problems for the enemy are already leading to problems with holding positions in the city. Nevertheless, the enemy does not abandon attempts to change the situation, moving new reserves to Chasov Yar and #Konstantinovka, on which the RF Armed Forces are carrying out regular strikes to complicate the enemy’s actions.

https://t.me/sitreports/5862

Posted by: Down South | Mar 16 2023 3:23 utc | 118

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ #Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 15 Mar 2023⚡️
🔹#Kharkov Region:
▪️ The RF Armed Forces have launched several missile strikes on targets in the #Kharkov region.
➖ According to local authorities, one of the targets was a critical infrastructure facility.
🔹#Belgorod Region:
▪️ Overnight, Russian air defences intercepted three Ukrainian missiles over the #Belgorod region. There were no casualties, but civilian infrastructure was damaged.
▪️ The AFU terrorists shelled #Shebekino, causing damage to several residential buildings and a garage cooperative, with no casualties..
▪️ In the village of Novostroyevka-Vtoraya in Grajvoronovsky urban district, several residential buildings were damaged by AFU terrorist shelling, but no casualties were sustained.
▪️ In the village of Novostroyevka-Vtoraya in Grajvoronovsky urban district, several residential buildings were damaged by AFU shelling, but no casualties were sustained.
🔹#Starobelsk Direction:
▪️ The situation has not changed, the sides are conducting mutual reconnaissance of positions, artillery is working.
▪️ In the #Lisichansk sector, in the #Serebryanskoye forestry area, the RF Armed Forces seized several AFU strongholds.
🔹#Soledar (#Bakhmut) Direction (MAP):
▪️ West of #Soledar (north-northwest of #Bakhmut), Wagner PMC assault squads occupied the village of #Zaliznyanskoye. Ukrainian units retreated from the settlement with heavy losses.
▪️ To the south (of #Zaliznyanskoye), fighting is taking place in Orekhovo-Vasilyevka, the settlement is partially under the control of the AFU. The 30th Mechanized and 17th Separate Tank Brigades and Territorial Defence forces of the AFU forces are backed by artillery from the #Malinovka side.
▪️ In #Bakhmut itself, fighting continues on the territory of the Artyomovsk Metal Processing Plant (AZOM). Vostokmash building has being occupied by Wagner PMC stormtroopers and they are moving deeper into the complex.
▪️ In the south (of #Bakhmut), the “Wagnerians” have advanced in the area of the destroyed monument to the MiG-17 aircraft behind Korsunsky Street andand are fighting in the direction of the Bakhmut Industrial College.
🔹#Donetsk Direction:
▪️ The Russian aviation and artillery continue to strike at the identified locations of the AFU in #Avdeyevka.
▪️ In #Maryinka, fighting continues in the area of Druzhba Avenue. The RF Armed Forces are levelling the frontline, gradually advancing in multi-storey buildings.
🔹#Zaporozhye Direction (MAP):
📌 The AFU made an unsuccessful offensive attempt on the #Pologi and #Orekhov sections of the #Zaporozhye front.
▪️ Northwest of #Pologi, Ukrainian militants unsuccessfully attempted to storm the positions of the 291st Motorized Rifle Regiment, resulting in the loss of two tanks and two BMPs and a withdrawal.
▪️ Another attempt was made in the #Novodanilovka area, but also there the Ukrainian militants were not successful.
Taken together, the AFU lost more than 40 people killed and at least eight armoured vehicles.
🔹#Kherson Direction on #SouthFront:
▪️ Russian artillery has hit AFU positions and concentrations in the areas of Kachkarovka, #Mikhaylovka and Zolotaya Balka settlements.
➖ The AFU terrorists responded with strikes on #Kakhovka, #Alyoshki and Novaya Kakhovka. Houses and outbuildings were damaged.

https://t.me/sitreports/5863

Posted by: Down South | Mar 16 2023 3:25 utc | 119

Colleagues, while everyone is busy with the war, the Office of the President is busy preparing for the elections in order to sit in power, having again gained a monopoly.
Zaluzhny and military volunteers, who have their own opinion, constantly criticizing the strategy of the OP, pose a much greater threat to Bankova than the Russians.
According to the same principle, they cleaned up and clean up all the competitors of the Bank. Earlier, the mayor of Chernihiv was merged in violation of the Constitution, before that Korban and so on. But for some reason, no one touches the HLE, which is under Yermak, although the crowd is making noise, but Bankovaya “put a bolt” on the opinion of the masses.

https://t.me/legitimniy/14957

Posted by: Down South | Mar 16 2023 3:34 utc | 120

The recent events with the failed terrorist attack in Tiraspol indicate that some Ukrainian structures do not abandon the scenario of rocking the Transnistrian case.
The GUR of Ukraine and the SBU are already implementing something similar in the territories controlled by the Russian Federation (Zaporozhye, Kherson, Donetsk, Lugansk regions), where the cars of officials, businessmen, politicians, etc. are often blown up. This is a strategy of controlled terror. Even in Moscow, they carried out a “terrorist attack” when they blew up Darya Dugin.
The strategic goal of such terrorist attacks in the PMR was aimed at:
1. Sow panic in society in the PMR
2. Destabilize the situation (accuses the local authorities of provocation and incite internal anger).
3. Intimidate the local elites so that they abandon the pro-Russian vector and begin a soft drain of positions, paving the way for the surrender of territories.
Over the past year, the Ukrainian special services have carried out many such “acts of terror” that the West turned a blind eye to.
Most likely, this is not the last such “action” of Kyiv, which is expanding its scope, and now it begins to act everywhere, without fear that they can be “punished” for this.
Chisinau’s attempt to take under its jurisdiction the perpetrators of the terrorist attack only indicates that it was a request from Kyiv.
According to our information, Chisinau wanted to take them away in order to twist everything, turning the perpetrators into victims, accusing official Tiraspol of provocation. At the same time, release the suspects into the wild.

https://t.me/legitimniy/14956

Posted by: Down South | Mar 16 2023 3:35 utc | 121

❗️Breaking: Russian forces have reached the site of the US MQ-9 surveillance drone that was downed in the Black Sea in an attempt to recover it, officials told CNN.
The Kremlin vowed on Wednesday to try and recover the large drone which crashed in international waters after its encounter with Russian fighter jets a day earlier.
It is not clear if Russia has been able to recover any remains of the drone when they arrived at the crash site, which is around 70 miles southwest of Crimea, the US officials told the news network.
“>https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/russia-us-drone-crash-site-b2301833.html

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/37532

Posted by: Down South | Mar 16 2023 3:36 utc | 122

I think my idea of memory-holing Ukraine is gaining traction.
Here is how a Pulitzer prize winner — Chris Hedges — puts it:

There will come a time when the Ukrainians, like the Kurds, will become expendable. They will disappear, as many others before them have, from our national discourse and our consciousness. They will nurse for generations their betrayal and suffering. The American empire will move on to use others, perhaps the “heroic” people of Taiwan, to further its futile quest for global hegemony. [emphasis mine]

A good read for the history buffs.
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/03/14/chris-hedges-ukraines-death-by-proxy/

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Mar 16 2023 3:44 utc | 123

@ Don Bacon | Mar 16 2023 2:59 utc | 122
Indeed, Lost of talk for four months now … sweet FA deliverables along with considerable backtracking re prior announced ‘commitments’ …

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 16 2023 4:06 utc | 124

Posted by: FrankDrakman | Mar 16 2023 2:55 utc | 121
Dunno’ what you’re smokin’. Please stop.

Posted by: Drinky Crow | Mar 16 2023 4:27 utc | 125

There will come a time when the Ukrainians, like the Kurds, will become expendable. They will disappear, as many others before them have, from our national discourse and our consciousness. They will nurse for generations their betrayal and suffering. The American empire will move on to use others, perhaps the “heroic” people of Taiwan, to further its futile quest for global hegemony. [emphasis mine]
A good read for the history buffs.
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/03/14/chris-hedges-ukraines-death-by-proxy/
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Mar 16 2023 3:44 utc | 128
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If this 2015 article is correct, it would seem Ukrainians have a natural disposition towards the experience of betrayal.
https://theukrainetoday.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/understanding-zrada/
“..Modern Ukrainian discourse cannot be understood without ZRADA; but what must be understood is that ZRADA is inherently illogical and emotional. It’s centuries of failures and a deeply-ingrained urge to look out for one’s own self speaking out, amplified by the shock and the difficulties of times Ukrainians find themselves in.
Time and again, however, this very phenomenon paved the way to Ukraine’s many failures, directly causing ZRADA to flourish today. In the end of 2015, Ukraine once again stands on a threshold of a new cycle that so often repeated itself. ..”

Posted by: HOBO3 | Mar 16 2023 4:48 utc | 126

I meant to author the HOBO3 | Mar 16 2023 4:48 utc | 131 post as Ново З

Posted by: Ново З | Mar 16 2023 5:06 utc | 127

Colonel Douglas Macgregor on Napolitano’s show…
Judge Napolitano 3/15/2023
https://www.bitchute.com/video/b9lfKhY2Om0K/
This is on Macgregor’s official Bitchute channel, so is authentic. Apparently he doesn’t have an official Youtube channel, so anything there is suspect. The only media channel referenced on his official blog site is Bitchute.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 16 2023 6:56 utc | 128

And so naturally the site filter won’t allow Bitchute links…
I tried to post an official Judge Napolitano interview with Macgregor from Macgregor’s official Bitchute channel. He doesn’t have a Youtube channel at all, or if he does it’s not mentioned on his official blog site. Unfortunately, the site won’t allow Bitchute.
I give up. I’m not posting any more links anywhere. Fuck this shit software.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 16 2023 7:00 utc | 129

Weakening Russia still a Good Idea? Col Doug Macgregor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQSbcxoiAbk

Posted by: Babel-17 | Mar 16 2023 7:08 utc | 130

I had to look under “streams” to find the long version(s).
https://www.youtube.com/@judgenapolitano-judgingfre7226/streams

Posted by: Babel-17 | Mar 16 2023 7:13 utc | 131

The liveuamap site is showing “Red Alert” aerial warnings across most of Ukraine as of 0905 local time:
https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/16-march-sumska-oblast-kherson-khersonska-oblg

Posted by: Drake Schroeder | Mar 16 2023 7:54 utc | 132

I suppose the tipping point for the US to pull the escalatory trigger, would be after the fall of Artyomovsk paving the way to a fully liberated DPR and before Russian army moves towards Odessa. Besides sending NATO pawns from Poland or elsewhere, the US could try and offer Russia a Korean or Vietnam scenario to freeze the conflict before Ukraine is completely wiped militarily and even politically. It sounds delusional and no sane person would entertain the thoughts of another Minsk-like betrayal, but it is among the best cards left on the ever evaporating hand of the US. We can never rule out nuclear obviously, but as far as convential warfare and whatever remnants of diplomacy US leaders practice (or snort together with Elensky), current Russia ain’t NVA + VC force in 1968. It would be so much bloodier. They can’t be that insane or stupid, can they?

Posted by: _newbie_ | Mar 16 2023 9:20 utc | 133

All those positing that Russia will go to the Polish border may well be right – but where is the Polish border?
Putin has publicly said many times that what is now Western Ukraine should never have been attached to Ukraine by Stalin and that a place like Lviv/Lvov is in reality a Polish city.
Here’s a quote from an article.
“Sikorski described Putin telling the then Polish prime minister, Donald Tusk, at a meeting in Moscow that: “Ukraine is an artificial country and that Lwów is a Polish city […] why don’t we just sort it out together? Luckily Tusk didn’t answer. He knew he was being recorded.””
So, to be clear – Putin may envisage taking all of Ukraine – what he considers Ukraine anyway – but that won’t include non-Russian far Western Polish oblasts.
Why would he suddenly change his mind on that?!?

Posted by: Julian | Mar 16 2023 12:53 utc | 134

FrankDrakman @121

“Under fascism, oligarchs own the enterprises, and respond to market signals from rigged markets. It’s bad, but it’s marginally more efficient than the socialist model…”

In the case of Ukraine, it has been “more efficient” at crippling the national economy to the point where military service is the only job opportunity…

Posted by: Nomad | Mar 16 2023 14:24 utc | 135

So, it quite adds up that Zelensky won’t order a retreat.
Posted by: sarz | Mar 15 2023 16:23 utc | 51
Nailed it. Thxs.
Missed that Madsen piece. He’s ex Navy Intel, top of Intel food chain supposedly. In any case, if true that narrative about UKr as fallback (or additional) homeland would explain the current hollowing out strategy. Might even be with RF assistance though that could never be admitted of course.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 16 2023 14:46 utc | 136

Looking at the 5 US banks with a combined $188 trillion of derivatives.
Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 15 2023 16:39 utc | 53
Back in 2008 they said there was 1.5 quadrillion sloshing around in derivatives. Wonder what that figure is now… Probably double that already…

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 16 2023 14:58 utc | 137

The Powell-Yellen team has two options;
1. Save the banks OR
2. Save the dollar
Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 15 2023 18:52 utc | 77
They will ruin both.
The West is being taken down with the full participation of its own elites using the SMO as cover. They are not nearly as inept as many believe. They care nothing for the well-being of general people nor the nation states they dwell in. Collapse is a feature not a bug.

Posted by: Scorpion | Mar 16 2023 18:13 utc | 138

@_newbie_, #137:

They can’t be that insane or stupid, can they?

Look back upon events of the past 10 years. The record speaks for itself.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Mar 16 2023 20:39 utc | 139

Or, just look back over the past 10 months. How many ooops!!!! have you seen uttered by the Yellen, Powell, and ughhhhhh, our treasured MSM????
Oh geez, we didn’t know the banks were investing in T-Bonds. Oh geez, we didn’t know printing money would cause inflations. Oh geez, we didn’t know sending citizens money for NOTHING, we mean NOTHING, is the same as printing money. All we’re trying to do is to make Amerikkkkans happy, keep us in offices, and pay for our propaganda.
Who’d have thought all these good deeds would result in Empire collapse? We sent Ukrainians to die instead of Amerikkkkkans didn’t we?

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Mar 16 2023 20:47 utc | 140

I’ve read here lately barflies proclaim they haven’t seen things that bad. To be honest, I myself have never seen such a large bunch of idiots running the so=called government/MSM in my 70+ years of life. The idiocy is collective, pervasive, and ostensive. It’s 3-deep or more in ALL government/Media Boardroom/social institutions hierarchies.
It’s everywhere. Everywhere in the so-called West, that is.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Mar 16 2023 20:53 utc | 141

@ Oriental Voice | Mar 16 2023 20:53 utc | 145
Am not far off 80. And you’re Dog damned dead on target there.

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 16 2023 21:05 utc | 142

Outraged @146:
Thank you for the encouragement :-). What baffles me is that people such as Powell, Yellen, Biden, et al are our contemporaries. They attended the same types of schools, used same textbooks, and exposed to same geopolitical events and/or lessons as you and I. How can they be so STUPID??? I mean, I understand the factors of their positions to have to say certain things that don’t reflect realities, due to political constraints, but much of what the press reported as what they said seemed to me that they simply don’t understand the conceptual intricacies of many of the issues they are dealing with. They are truly that stupid! What kind of a system are we living in that elects such moron as leaders?

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Mar 16 2023 21:40 utc | 143

Oriental Voice @147–
Very few are elected–only 537 at the Federal level are elected; all others are appointed or hired as members of the Civil Service or their specific bureaucracies. If you read/listen to Hudson’s recent podcast with Ben Norton, he goes out-of-his-way to stress Bankers control the federal government and explains how/why that is. As you’ve seen me write before, those people in DC are “victims” of two diseases (at least): Megalomania and Pleonexia. In many ways they are like drug addicts who are so hooked they cannot change their ways or are even able to see their deviances. But we can as they show their values by their behavior, actions that they lie to themselves about that they’re not really that way. Albright is perhaps the best example of a psychopathic criminal who was in denial of her reality until her death. Kissinger’s another, and there are too many more (neither were ever elected).
How did we voters get bamboozled into voting for those few that brought in so many ugly people? Well my friend, it’s been going on since the 1787 vote on the Constitution and is part of our history that isn’t taught at all unless you get lucky and get a history teacher like me. 140 years ago the electorate was much easier to inform despite or because of the lack of modern communication tools, and the context of those times doesn’t exist today. Today as we’ve seen the massage is manipulated or cancelled. IMO, the only real hope those of us within the Outlaw US Empire is for the RoW to contain and curtail the Empire’s hegemony and create the conditions for a political critical mass to form capable of ousting the Neoliberal Parasites and rejuvenating the nation. And that will take awhile.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 16 2023 22:31 utc | 144

@karlof1, #148:
You’re absolutely right. Only some of the morons who lay claims as being our leaders are elected, most of the others appointed. But one way or another, I despair for being in a system that gets morons elected, who in turn appoint teams of morons to mold our nation’s future.
Take that ‘good’ looking governess gem of South Dakota, Kristi Noem, who accuses China for having subverted America for 2,000 years. Imagine the corps of high-ranking idiotic appointees of her who will soon run South Dakota into the ground. And the two reputedly ‘good’ looking wannabes lurking in California and Florida for an opening to run for the White House.
How does it go? Words of the prophets are on the subway walls.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Mar 16 2023 23:03 utc | 145

@ Oriental Voice | Mar 16 2023 21:40 utc | 147
See zero qualified, zero experience, arbitrarily appointed ‘Project Managers’, or ‘Business Consultants’, or ‘Efficiency Experts'(not).
What happened when ‘old school’ Personnel Departments morphed into ‘Human Resources’ in the 80’s ?
Politically/Professionally they have assimilated the relentless BS propaganda & lies over their lifetimes, their false beliefs/opinions transformed into ‘facts’ ?
Ascended riding on the backs of others. So fundamentally ignorant & uninterested, re foundational or actual knowledge, practical matters & processes, where their staffers or assistants or ‘underlings’ merely make things happen, they develop magical thinking, where they merely demand a thing and it will come to be, regardless. Elevated by corrupt patronage, privileged & unflinching obeisance, they ascend 6 levels or more above their level of minimal competence.
So full of pompous arrogance & hubris they reject any answer or proposal that does not fit their almighty whims, desires & fixed preconceived views/opinions/positions/desires ?
Ie, No! I do not like that proposal or the alternatives, go away & present me another, and send someone else next time!
How many true, competent professionals in their fields over last three decades progressed on demonstrated merit, performance & competence ?
Services, Agencies, Institutions, etc IMV, fewer & fewer have progressed beyond Col/mid management equivalent unless they’re an unprincipled unethical amoral ass-licking political obsequious spineless venal toady. If someone slips through, does not take long for them to be subsequently singled out for expulsion or destruction.
We’re ruled & governed in Empire by 1000’s of clones, of various degrees of authority, of the Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland, IMV. And the Vampyres are so utterly detached from actual reality as they play their God like factional games on Mount Olympus above all these suborned Queens …
Yes, they are become, stupid, morons, IMV. Alternate explanation for Situ, statements, policies, deeds ? And pre-selected, groomed, managed & elevated precisely because of what they are. See: Petraeus.
PS What f*cking moron can possibly retain their position after being owned by, um, Russkie Volvan(?) & Lexus(?) publicly ? Yet they do, zero consequences, again & again. Profoundly struggle to comprehend it myself. Essentially there are nil consequences for failure, dereliction or incompetence whatsoever.
See: Superglue broken retaining bolts on containment vessel of submarine nuclear reactor ? Zalright, Baba Looey, zalright.
PPS Look at all senior appointments or high profile figures who are instantly publicly humiliated, dismissed or societal executed, if they dare ‘step out of line’ re objective reality, propaganda narrative, Empire imposed policies or demonstrable truths. Dept Secretaries, Party members, Service & Agency heads, public/high profile figures …
Apologies, stream of, rant over … an aggrieved old bustard re society/culture/community/organizations/institutions/professions fragmented, corroded, corrupted & suborned from within, throughout & above, all for filthy lucre & gratification through exercise of dominance over others, little by little over centuries until it’s now dismissively contemptuously openly thrust in our face.

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 16 2023 23:07 utc | 146

Sakineh Bagoom | Mar 16 2023 3:44 utc | 126
Chris Hedges says-
‘Even if Ukraine is forced in defeat to negotiate with Russia and concede territory for peace, as well as accept status as a neutral nation, Washington will have achieved its primary goal of weakening Russia’s military capacity and isolating Putin from Europe’.
I think there are some very positive aspects to the war for Russia-
war has –
got rid of old soviet arms stockpile crap.
Tested and developed drones in action
accelerated Russian missiles development, and sell them to interested onlookers
tested the psychology of Russian troops, transitioning from a voluntary ambiguous ‘peacekeeping’ force to a serious army
streamlined the army artillery and developed coordination with Wagner/ground forces
Tested the strategy of not relying on air and sea forces
Sanctions have
accelerated home industry and tech supply
strengthened ties with other anti USA/NATO countries
accelerated transition to non dollar currency trading for vital resources
Does it matter if Russia is isolated from Europe? After all, Europe has been expendable to the US since at least 1956, why would Russia need it, if it has other markets? The USA has ensured the rapid decline of Europe anyway, reinforcing its lack of importance.

Posted by: olaf22 | Mar 17 2023 1:17 utc | 147

Posted by: olaf22 | Mar 17 2023 1:17 utc | 151
olaf22, agreed. I just read an article that said: Europe just closed INSTEX — their brainchild to do business with Iran.
The rest of the world is having a good laugh.
I think I also read that only one transaction took place on INSTEX, further notifying the RoW the irrelevance of the EU.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Mar 17 2023 2:30 utc | 148

Does it matter if Russia is isolated from Europe? After all, Europe has been expendable to the US since at least 1956, why would Russia need it, if it has other markets? The USA has ensured the rapid decline of Europe anyway, reinforcing its lack of importance.

Posted by: olaf22 | Mar 17 2023 1:17 utc | 151
I think it does matter, because (or so I’m told) it’s not in Russia’s interests to see an impoverished Europe on her Western border. Are we going to accept this artificial rift the USA and UK have set up? Are we going to let the USA/UK damage another part of the world?

Posted by: joey_n | Mar 17 2023 7:51 utc | 149

The Russian plan appears to be that the fight goes on until citizens of the NATO countries tire of a conflict with no end in sight or Ukrainians remove Zelensky and his cronies. It seems the Russians have calculated that a rapid advance has too many negatives for geopolitical and domestic reasons. NATO and Ukraine won’t defeat this Russian leadership without triggering a nuclear response. The likely NATO/Ukraine “win” would be some sort of western Ukraine in a defacto NATO while eastern Ukraine becomes Russian or part of the Russian orbit.

Posted by: Bismark | Mar 19 2023 18:00 utc | 150

What do you think about this:
Polish Ambassador to France: Poland will be forced to enter war if Ukraine
fails to defend itself

Posted by: Lanus | Mar 20 2023 8:58 utc | 151

The Russian plan appears to be that the fight goes on until citizens of the NATO countries tire of a conflict with no end in sight or Ukrainians remove Zelensky and his cronies. It seems the Russians have calculated that a rapid advance has too many negatives for geopolitical and domestic reasons. NATO and Ukraine won’t defeat this Russian leadership without triggering a nuclear response. The likely NATO/Ukraine “win” would be some sort of western Ukraine in a defacto NATO while eastern Ukraine becomes Russian or part of the Russian orbit.
Posted by: Bismark | Mar 19 2023 18:00 utc | 153
I think the Russians (at least some of them) understand that the economic, political and moral aspects of the war are the most important, and they they will require time to work.
Destroying Ukraine militarily would be the quick, too quick. “Biden” needs time to work his magic, so as to destroy the empire too.

Posted by: Bemildred | Mar 20 2023 9:55 utc | 152

Apologies, stream of, rant over … an aggrieved old bustard re society/culture/community/organizations/institutions/professions fragmented, corroded, corrupted & suborned from within, throughout & above, all for filthy lucre & gratification through exercise of dominance over others, little by little over centuries until it’s now dismissively contemptuously openly thrust in our face.
Posted by: Outraged | Mar 16 2023 23:07 utc | 149
The theory seems to be that a good manager can manage anything, without knowing anything about the business, he just has to know where the money is, and go for it. This results in exactly the sort of catabolic economy we have had these last 40 years. So the new class system is managers and everybody else, and of course the wealthy are all good managers like DJ Trump.
I agree with what you said, I left one job after another because they tried to move me into management. Nothing but a**holes there, and no real work to do.

Posted by: Bemildred | Mar 20 2023 10:17 utc | 153

@Bismark 153
“The Russian plan appears to be that the fight goes on until citizens of the NATO countries tire of a conflict (…) The likely NATO/Ukraine “win” would be some sort of western Ukraine in a defacto NATO while eastern Ukraine becomes Russian or part of the Russian orbit.”
if so, what sense did the war make? If it eventually only affirms the status quo ante + a few Hundred miles of buffer West of Russia (the occupied UKR).
Some essentials of the Russian suggestions to NATO/USA December 2021 have to be realized.
Otherwise not a single threat to RU would have been removed.

Posted by: AG | Mar 20 2023 10:22 utc | 154

since German papers like to quote our friends from ISW
here their latest:
“Russian Offensive Campaign Update, March 19, 2023”
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-update-march-19-2023
(does this make any sense? Even an outlet like “Responsible Statecraft” was mocking ISW last summer. Authors listed are: Karolina Hird, Grace Mappes, Riley Bailey, Kateryna Stepanenko, and Frederick W. Kagan)
with this intro:
“ISW is publishing an abbreviated campaign update today, March 19. This report discusses growing Russian concern about a prospective Ukrainian counteroffensive near Bakhmut or in southern Ukraine, and Russian efforts to prepare mitigations for these claimed efforts. The tempo of Russian offensive operations across the theater has slowed in recent weeks, suggesting that the Russian spring offensive in Donbas may be nearing culmination. Ukrainian officials have indicated that significant Russian losses near Vuhledar are severely inhibiting Russian forces’ capacity to conduct further offensive operations in Donetsk Oblast. Russian President Vladimir Putin used his first visit to recently-occupied Ukraine to portray himself as an involved wartime leader amid exaggerated responses in the Russian nationalist information space over fears of a possible future Ukrainian counteroffensive in southern Ukraine.”

Posted by: AG | Mar 20 2023 10:35 utc | 155