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March 13, 2023
China’s Prestigious Middle East Deal May Soon See Challenges

The big deal between Saudi Arabia and Iran, which China mediated, may soon lead to new trouble.

The deal included security clauses:

[C]onfidential clauses were inserted into the Beijing Agreement to assure Iran and Saudi Arabia that their security imperatives would be met. Some of these details were provided to The Cradle, courtesy of a source involved in the negotiations:

  • Both Saudi Arabia and the Islamic Republic of Iran undertake not to engage in any activity that destabilizes either state, at the security, military or media levels.
  • Saudi Arabia pledges not to fund media outlets that seek to destabilize Iran, such as Iran International.
  • Saudi Arabia pledges not to fund organizations designated as terrorists by Iran, such as the People’s Mojahedin Organization (MEK), Kurdish groups based in Iraq, or militants operating out of Pakistan.
  • Iran pledges to ensure that its allied organizations do not violate Saudi territory from inside Iraqi territory. During negotiations, there were discussions about the targeting of Aramco facilities in Saudi Arabia in September 2019, and Iran’s guarantee that an allied organization would not carry out a similar strike from Iraqi lands.
  • Saudi Arabia and Iran will seek to exert all possible efforts to resolve conflicts in the region, particularly the conflict in Yemen, in order to secure a political solution that secures lasting peace in that country.

According to sources involved in the Beijing negotiations, no details on Yemen’s conflict were agreed upon as there has already been significant progress achieved in direct talks between Riyadh and Yemen’s Ansarallah resistance movement in January. These have led to major understandings between the two warring states, which the US and UAE have furiously sought to undermine in order to prevent a resolution of the Yemen war.

In Beijing however, the Iranian and Saudis agreed to help advance the decisions already reached between Riyadh and Sanaa, and build upon these to end the seven-year war.

The Saudi pledges are significant for Iran. Since last October there had been on and off protests and riots combined with terrorist attacks by Sunni militants in Baloch region in southeast Iran and terrorist attacks in northwest Iran by Sunni Kurdish militants which had crossed over from north Iraq.

The protests were fueled by Iran International, a Saudi funded channel in London. That channel is now moving to Washington DC where it seems to have found new funding. Saudi Arabia was also financing the Kurdish and Baloch rebels. They have now stopped their attack in Iran. Today Iran announced an amnesty for some 22,000 people who had been arrested during the riots:

[Iran’s judiciary head Gholamhossein Mohseni Ejehi] said a total of 82,656 prisoners and those facing charges had been pardoned. Of those, some 22,628 had been arrested amid the demonstrations, he said. Those pardoned had not committed theft or violent crimes, he added.

The Iranian pledges have likewise solved Saudi Arabia security problems. There will be no more attacks on its oil infrastructure.

An additional item in the Cradle report is also significant:

On a slightly separate note related to regional security — but not part of the Beijing Agreement — sources involved in negotiations confirmed to The Cradle that, during talks, the Saudi delegation stressed Riyadh’s commitment to the 2002 Arab peace initiative; refusing normalization with Tel Aviv before the establishment of an independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital.

This is of course bad for Israel which had hoped to drag Saudi Arabia onto its site to then attack Iran. That has for now become impossible. The China mediated deal is also a red flag for Washington:

[T]he agreement undercuts the posture of the U.S. in the region. The U.S. has downsized in Syria after withdrawing forces in 2021 from Afghanistan.

The deal also comes as Saudi Arabia is demanding certain security guarantees, a steady flow of arms shipments and assistance with its civilian nuclear program in order to normalize relations with Israel, a major U.S. ally, the White House confirmed on Friday.

Speaking to reporters, National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby said the U.S. was “informed” about the Saudi Arabia-Iran talks but played no role in them.

One wonders if the recent anti-Chinese campaign was launched because the U.S. knew of the deal and tried to interrupt it.

The deal may well have implementation issues:

China’s role in the Saudi-Iranian deal is momentous. However, Beijing may find that its relations in the region are undermined by failures in its implementation.

As the broker of the deal, or at least the third-party country listed in the statement, the key question is whether China will — or even can — realistically underwrite or support the translation of the agreement into practice. The first issue is one of capabilities. Unlike Washington, China’s power projection capabilities are highly limited. With its sole foreign military base in Djibouti, and no substantial security architecture in the region, Beijing would be unable to enforce the deal with the use — or threat — of force.

While this very absence of military might may be a source of soft power for China in the eyes of regional states, given that it signals a genuine desire to avoid interfering in other states’ affairs, Beijing cannot protect key assets in the region or respond to transgressions. Beijing is still reliant on Washington in this regard.

Who's are the 'key assets' in the region? Are they not owned by the countries they are in? If Iran and the Saudis hold onto the agreement there is no need for the U.S. to be there. Beijing is certainly not relying on anything Washington could do there.

The second, and far more pressing, issue is one of willingness. China’s role in brokering the deal is unlikely to see it raise its head above the parapet if violence or tensions erupt. Beijing has expended decades of diplomatic effort to cultivate good relations with all regional states. We are simply unlikely to see China risk blowing it all by siding with one partner at the expense of the other.

The author seems to believe that China should take sides. If the agreement holds there will be no need to do that. If it doesn't hold China will mediate again until peace returns.

Fundamentally, this deal comes down to the two regional states (and indeed the other GCC states). If they play ball, China can claim a monumental victory in Middle Eastern diplomacy. If, as is more likely, tensions surface, Beijing will find that it has overstretched. It will almost certainly be unable and unwilling to act as a guarantor of the deal. For a quick diplomatic win, China has placed its policy of neutrality in jeopardy. The current question from China’s perspective is whether it will retain the respect of all parties if the agreement fails.

The real implementation problems the deal and China will face are not the ones the author quoted above mentions.

The U.S. does not like the deal because it diminishes its role in the region. Israel does not like the deal because it lessens its chances to go  after Iran:

The U.S. and Israel don’t look kindly on the news of the diplomatic breakthrough. They first fear that China is increasingly assertive in its role in the region, and the U.S. does not want to experience what Britain experienced in Suez in 1956: a watershed moment signaling its global decline. The U.S. stood up to Britain, France and Israel who combined to attack Egypt after its leader Gamal Abdel Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal. The event is seen as the final act of the British Empire before joining the more powerful U.S. imperium.

If the agreement does accomplish the goal of truly bringing peace and amity between the two rivals, China may then enjoy a Suez moment: when the world signals the end of the American Empire like what happened to the British.

Both, Israel and the U.S, are capable and likely willing to do whatever is necessary to prevent an implementation of the deal. They can probable use their good relations with the United Arab Emirates to make things difficult. False flag attacks in Iran and in Saudi Arabia could be a way to do that. If a new 'Iranian' drone attack happens in Saudi oil fields or new 'Saudi financed' terrorist attack in Iran happen the deal could indeed be scraped.

One hopes that China and the other parties involved in the deal are conscious of that.

Comments

team10tin, nwwoods, XxYy, Patroklos, MAKK: I was aware of numerous differences between English english and english as it’s used elsewhere, but this one is one I never heard of before, so thanks for the correction. If you let me take my boot from my trunk and put it on my foot, I’ll let you take your trunk from your boot and put it on your back, deal?

Posted by: Dalit | Mar 14 2023 10:08 utc | 101

@ Axel Lamm 1
” Trust has to be earned ‘
In the Muslim political world, in total contradiction to Islam, lying is universal, in fact thecwird politics now = lying.
Iran, China, Russia and Saudi Arabia have learnt the hard way over the centuries that USUKIS are liars. But sorry, the Muslim countries don’t need false flags from USUKIS to break any agreements. None of them would recognise truth if it came up and greeted them . The Muslim world has Truth Alzheimers. They have forgotten how not to.lie.
On Unity FM yesterday one brother was talking about Muslims naking hijrah from Britain , leaving because of the secular atmosphere. By Allah, Islam is theatre religion but by Allah there are very very few Muslims in Britain who don’t lie most of the time, from the top to the bottom of society, from imam to asylum seeker. We Brits have to make hijrah, leave for safety, from your poisonous Muslim wormtongues, not the other way round.

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 14 2023 10:21 utc | 102

theatre religion LoL the true religion.
Thank you autocorrect, your word was better than mine.

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 14 2023 10:24 utc | 103

Prestigious or prodigious?

Posted by: Jonathan W | Mar 14 2023 13:00 utc | 104

@ Dalit | Mar 14 2023 10:08 utc | 101
OK, thats tabled :-)))

Posted by: MAKK | Mar 14 2023 13:44 utc | 105

@ Giyane | Mar 14 2023 10:21 utc | 102
you are missing the differences.
(Most of the)the Near East cultures tend to overstate as a start for bartering. Some tea and conversation time later things have matched up.
American ( and British to some extend ) culture lies to betray and gain advantage. preferably no meaningful conversation.

Posted by: MAKK | Mar 14 2023 13:52 utc | 106

I get it guys, the enemy of my enemy and all that. I was reading over all the comments about this here and there and I noticed that no one had pointed out the Suni/Shia schism. Some may think it’s fortified by the press but in my experience it is very real. The governments may want to play patty cake to grift some bucks out of the deal but the man in the street’s attitude toward his muslim brother hasn’t changed a bit and will ultimately be the undoing of this charade. If anything this is going to exacerbate the rift between the people and the authorities.
I just noticed that no one was talking about this at all. Thanks for the feedback.

Posted by: pawn | Mar 14 2023 14:20 utc | 107

@karlof1 Mar 13 2023 20:24 utc | 47
The psyche of every human being strives for sovereignty. And if this sovereignty is guaranteed in multipolarity, then the downfall of a rule or leadership striving for hegemony can no longer be stopped. This downfall will be slowed down by efforts to tolerate only one’s own sovereignty. This works only through sanctions.
Nothing is more desirable than sovereignty.

Posted by: oldwoman | Mar 14 2023 14:57 utc | 108

oldwoman @108–
Thanks for your reply. Today’s Global Times editorial celebrates recent political events aimed at arriving at China’s stated goals for itself and the world, “China building a great country will form a greater appeal to the world”, and concludes thusly:
“In fact, as long as China puts forward a strategic plan or long-term goal, not only the Chinese people, but even the whole world believes that China is definitely not just shouting slogans, but will definitely do what it says. Just imagine, if Washington believed that China would not achieve national rejuvenation, would it still be as anxious, sensitive, suspicious, and aggressive as it is now? These abnormal behaviors of the US reflect that China’s steady development and huge potential have made the US hegemony, which is accustomed to dominance, feel threatened. It’s just that they found the wrong opponent and took the wrong way. Containment and suppression will not make the US great, and it will not stop China’s rejuvenation.
“Of course, we also know that there are still various difficulties on the way forward for China, as well as foreseeable and unforeseen storms, but we have always achieved new development through overcoming difficulties. A China that is not afraid of difficulties and struggles in unity has embarked on a new journey toward the grand goal of “building a great country and advancing national rejuvenation.” It will continue to achieve self-transcendence, and transform this transcendence into a sense of gain and happiness that ordinary people can see and touch. This will also form a huge appeal and attraction to the outside world, thereby providing new ideas and new methods for the world to solve problems and benefit all mankind.”
Russia and China’s developmental systems and their philosophies aim to unlock the potential creativity of every individual so they can not only fulfill themselves but also contribute to the fulfillment of their fellow humans and their nation. This is what I term People Centered Deveolpment, and many nations are attempting to implement similar policies. The policy is also part of the 2030 UN Development Goals, so it’s not some secret formula known to only a few.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 14 2023 17:29 utc | 109

Re: Posted by: Dalit | Mar 13 2023 18:37 utc | 9
verb: scupper; 3rd person present: scuppers; past tense: scuppered; past participle: scuppered; gerund or present participle: scuppering
sink (a ship or its crew) deliberately.
INFORMAL
prevent from working or succeeding; thwart.
“plans for a casino were scuppered by a public inquiry”

Posted by: Whizzened | Mar 14 2023 22:38 utc | 110

What I wonder is where this “Ukrainian professionalism that was ‘better’ than Russias” comes from except from Alice’ Wonderland and the Matrix. I mean if all those guys would have really been those mega-fighters, they wouldn’t be dead and they would have slaughtered the Russians, especially considering the fact that they had 2-3 times more men, especially infantry. But OK, those dimwits will rather die in masses than admit that the Russians are as good or even better. I guess that is acceptable for the Russians, they don’t need to win the media war (they actually had never a chance against the western PR-virtual-space). It is not an art to be “so good” having NATO’s complete ISTAR on your side. And even that didn’t help to not getting backdoored. All those stupid Nazi symbolics and PR-stunts indicated a couple of things: 1) How unprofessional the Ukrainians actually are 2) How fundamentally undisciplined they actually are 3) How nationalistic-delusional they actually are while some of their politicians counted exactly on those PR-stunts to turn the tide because they knew from the beginning that they otherwise wouldn’t have a chance against the Russians in the long run. And now they’ll get their country destroyed – needlessly, that is just delusional and fatalistic to the bone I must say. I come from a region where at least 4 parties fought a war against each other, similar Slavic mentality and tough fuckers living there, but they knew when to finally stop and when to sign a peace treaty. Nothing tops Ukraines stupidity at this point.

Posted by: Banet | Mar 15 2023 2:30 utc | 111

…don’t mess with the dragon. . .from CNN
Xi tightens grip, hardens stance on US

China’s most important annual political meetings wrapped up Monday, leaving leader Xi Jinping firmly at the helm of a superpower that appears more eager to push back against the United States than at any time in decades.
. . . A notable shift in tone at the two sessions this year was a more forceful approach in publicly pushing back against the US – from the very top of the Chinese leadership.
At China’s annual exercise in political theater, it is safe to assume that no public comment was made without having been carefully thought out.
So when Xi lashed out at the US in front of a group of government advisers representing private businesses last week, the sharpened rhetoric sent alarm bells ringing for already fraught US-China relations.
“Western countries led by the United States have contained and suppressed us in an all-round way, which has brought unprecedented severe challenges to our development,” Xi said. . . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 15 2023 14:27 utc | 112

The Saudis find friendship and investments with the Persians.
Saudi Arabia sees no barriers to investment in Iran – authorities
🔹Saudi Arabia sees no obstacles to the normalization of relations and investments in Iran, said the Minister of Finance of the Kingdom, Mohammed al-Jadaan.
🔹”Things are moving fast, our goal is for the region to be stable. Iran is a neighboring state, and we see no obstacles to the normalization of relations and the flow of investments, if the sovereign rights of each state and non-interference in internal affairs are respected,” said al -Jadaan during a conference in Saudi Arabia dedicated to the private sector.
🔹He added that there are many opportunities for Saudi Arabia and Iran, provided that there is good will.
source: https://t.me/Slavyangrad/37549
OMFG BUT THE SANCTIONS!!!!
:))
The neo cons and Jared Corey Kushner will be inconsolable.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 16 2023 6:10 utc | 113

Kushner will be inconsolable.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 16 2023 6:10 utc | 113

Kushner (and Trump) also now have to face the music of New York commercial real estate blowing up in the banking meltdown.
Everybody’s looking for a bagman.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 16 2023 6:44 utc | 114

too scents #114
>”Everybody’s looking for a bagman.”
Except Hunter, he is looking for the candyman or maybe the snowman.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 16 2023 7:27 utc | 115

@ uncle tungsten | Mar 16 2023 7:27 utc | 115
LOL. Hunter is a giant amongst bagmen. Absolute King.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 16 2023 7:42 utc | 116