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February 24, 2023
U.S. Hegemony – At War With China’s Global Security Initiative

Over the last week China released a flurry of papers and statements that are accusing the U.S. of hegemony while contrasting it with China's peace initiatives.

As 'western' media rarely communicate what the Chinese say I find it necessary to give the Chinese standpoint some extended space.

Larry Johnson sets the stage by musing about the deterioration of U.S. China relations:

When the United States chose to shoot down the Chinese balloon (Beijing insists it was a weather balloon, the U.S. claims it was a spy platform) without contacting the Chinese Government, the Chinese initially expressed their outrage by refusing to accept a phone call from U.S. Secretary of Defense Austin. Austin continues to ask for a telephone conversation between the defense ministers of the two countries to discuss the situation around the weather balloon, but Beijing refuses to do so.

The Chinese then vowed to retaliate, but did not initially spell out what those countermeasures would entail. Then, last Thursday, Beijing announced sanctions and fines against two key American defense companies due to their participation in arms sales to Taiwan: Lockheed Martin Corp. and a subsidiary of Raytheon Technologies Corp.

The Biden Administration had a choice — take steps to try to repair relations with China or double down on antagonizing Beijing. Joe Biden and his feckless team, who have a knack for doing the wrong thing, opted to poke the Chinese in the eye. This week, the U.S. Department of Defense and Department of State, claimed they had intelligence that China was preparing to give Russia military aid and warned China in the strongest terms not to do so.

Talk about hypocrisy. The United States is free to supply Ukraine with billions in weapons and equipment but declares itself the sole arbiter to decide who China can support with military aid. Beijing was not amused …

The U.S. 'intelligence' claim came immediately after China's foreign policy big wig Wang Yi (Director of the Office of the Central Commission for Foreign Affairs) hinted in Munich that China would propose a peace plan for Ukraine:

On the Ukrainian issue, China believes that it is imperative to return to the Minsk II agreement, the starting point of this matter, as quickly as possible. The agreement is a binding instrument negotiated by the parties concerned and endorsed by the UN Security Council, and provides the only viable way out. State Councilor Wang noted that to his knowledge, Russia and the EU both support Minsk II, and in his recent telephone call with US Secretary of State Tony Blinken, the US side also expressed its support. In this context, shouldn’t the relevant parties sit down together for a thorough discussion to work out a roadmap and timetable for the implementation of the agreement? What all parties need to do now is to earnestly shoulder responsibilities and work for peace, instead of increasing tensions, stoking panic, or hyping up war.

As for the prospect of the issue, Wang Yi stressed that Ukraine should be a bridge for communication between the East and the West, not a frontier for confrontation between major powers. Regarding the security of Europe, all parties are free to raise their own concerns, and Russia’s reasonable security concerns should be respected and taken seriously. China hopes all parties will pursue dialogue and consultation to find a solution that is truly conducive to safeguarding the security of Europe.

China then took several actions to make its standpoint more clear.

On February 20 its foreign ministry released a paper about US Hegemony and Its Perils. It is full broadside against U.S. foreign policy behavior. Its chapter are:

  • Introduction
  • I. Political Hegemony—Throwing Its Weight Around
  • II. Military Hegemony—Wanton Use of Force 
  • III. Economic Hegemony—Looting and Exploitation
  • IV. Technological Hegemony—Monopoly and Suppression
  • V. Cultural Hegemony—Spreading False Narratives
  • Conclusion

The introduction lays out the facts:

Since becoming the world's most powerful country after the two world wars and the Cold War, the United States has acted more boldly to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries, pursue, maintain and abuse hegemony, advance subversion and infiltration, and willfully wage wars, bringing harm to the international community.

The United States has developed a hegemonic playbook to stage "color revolutions," instigate regional disputes, and even directly launch wars under the guise of promoting democracy, freedom and human rights. Clinging to the Cold War mentality, the United States has ramped up bloc politics and stoked conflict and confrontation. It has overstretched the concept of national security, abused export controls and forced unilateral sanctions upon others. It has taken a selective approach to international law and rules, utilizing or discarding them as it sees fit, and has sought to impose rules that serve its own interests in the name of upholding a "rules-based international order."

This report, by presenting the relevant facts, seeks to expose the U.S. abuse of hegemony in the political, military, economic, financial, technological and cultural fields, and to draw greater international attention to the perils of the U.S. practices to world peace and stability and the well-being of all peoples.

I recommend to read the full paper to expandd your knowledge and amusement.

On February 21 China released a Global Security Initiative Concept Paper. It is a long paper and a bit muddled. But it talks of deep cooperation and processes designed to defuse several areas of global instability:

We are convinced that the historical trends of peace, development and win-win cooperation are unstoppable. Upholding world peace and security and promoting global development and prosperity should be the common pursuit of all countries. Chinese President Xi Jinping has proposed the Global Security Initiative (GSI), calling on countries to adapt to the profoundly changing international landscape in the spirit of solidarity, and address the complex and intertwined security challenges with a win-win mindset. The GSI aims to eliminate the root causes of international conflicts, improve global security governance, encourage joint international efforts to bring more stability and certainty to a volatile and changing era, and promote durable peace and development in the world. 

The dual papers, exposing the brutality of U.S. foreign policy on one side and countering it with China's peace initiatives on the other, are China's offer to the rest of the world to build a multilateral coalition against the U.S. and its proxy 'allies'.

After leaving Munich Wang Yi traveled to Moscow to start a discussion about a peace proposal for the conflict in Ukraine. A potential visit by the Chinese president Xi Jinping to Moscow was announced. It will probably happen within the next two or three weeks.

The U.S. expressed concern about it:

The United States is concerned by greater alignment between China and Russia, the U.S. State Department said on Wednesday after Russian President Vladimir Putin hailed "new frontiers" in ties with Beijing and signalled China's Xi Jinping would visit his country.

U.S. State Department spokesperson Ned Price said Wang's visit to Russia on the eve of the war's one-year anniversary was further evidence of Beijing's alignment with Moscow.

"We are concerned because these two countries share a vision," Price told a press briefing. "It is a vision … of an era in which big countries could bully small countries, borders could be redrawn by force, an era in which might could make right," he said.

"We have not yet seen the PRC provide Russia with lethal aid, but we don't believe they've taken it off the table either," Price added.

The former Indian ambassador MK Bhadrakumar thinks that the Chinese initiative put renewed Russian fireworks over Ukraine, originally set to go off today, into suspension:

Putin confirmed that Moscow is expecting a visit by the Chinese President Xi Jinping after the sessions of the highest deliberative and legislative bodies of China — the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference and the National People’s Congress — which will begin in Beijing on March 4 and 5. Conceivably, the launch of any large scale Russian offensive will remain in suspended animation until then.

Yesterday China's foreign ministry Spokesperson Wang Wenbin referred to the policy papers in his press confernece. Asked about Wang Yi's visit to Moscow he said that Russia is fully on board with China's initiative:

China and Russia advocate and practice true multilateralism, oppose all forms of unilateralism and bullying, firmly safeguard our respective sovereignty, security and development interests, actively explore development paths suited to our respective national conditions, and tap the cooperation potential in various fields. No matter how the international landscape may change, China will maintain a sound momentum in growing a new type of major-country relations with Russia. China is willing to work with Russia to maintain strategic resolve, deepen political trust, strengthen strategic coordination, expand practical cooperation, safeguard the legitimate interests of both countries and play both countries’ constructive role in promoting world peace and development.

When asked about the State Department Ned Price's response Wang Wenbin fired another salvo against the U.S.:

CCTV: The US is concerned because China and Russia share a vision, the Spokesperson for the US Department of State Ned Price said. What’s your comment?

Wang Wenbin: The China-Russia relationship is built on the basis of non-alignment, non-confrontation and non-targeting at any third party. It is a factor conducive to world peace and stability, which is no cause for concern. What is truly concerning is the destructive role the US has played to peace and stability in the world.

The US is the No.1 warmonger in the world. The US was not at war for only 16 years throughout its 240-plus years of history. The US accounted for about 80 percent of all post-WWII armed conflicts.

The US is also the No.1 violator of sovereignty and interferer in the internal affairs of other countries. According to reports, since the end of WWII, the US has sought to subvert more than 50 foreign governments, grossly interfered in elections in at least 30 countries and attempted assassination on over 50 foreign leaders.

The US is also the No.1 source of antagonism and bloc confrontation. The US-led NATO is responsible for wars on Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria that killed more than 900,000 and created 37 million refugees. It has also made the Eurasia continent a less stable place. The impact of US-initiated Quad and AUKUS on Asia-Pacific security and stability also calls for vigilance. 

As long as US hegemonism and belligerence still exists, the rest of world will hardly get the peace it deserves.

The last question of the press conference allowed for another shot:

Reuters: The Wall Street Journal reported that the Biden administration may release intelligence that shows that China is considering whether to supply weapons to support Russia’s war in Ukraine. What’s China’s comment on this?

Wang Wenbin: …

Speaking of releasing valuable intelligence, the US could release intelligence on the truth behind the Nord Stream blast. We hope the US will provide a serious and responsible response to the revelations as soon as possible, rather than being evasive about it.

Today the foreign ministry released China’s Position on the Political Settlement of the Ukraine Crisis.  It has twelve points:

  1. Respecting the sovereignty of all countries.
  2. Abandoning the Cold War mentality.
  3. Ceasing hostilities.
  4. Resuming peace talks.
  5. Resolving the humanitarian crisis.
  6. Protecting civilians and prisoners of war (POWs).
  7. Keeping nuclear power plants safe.
  8. Reducing strategic risks.
  9. Facilitating grain exports.
  10. Stopping unilateral sanctions.
  11. Keeping industrial and supply chains stable.
  12. Promoting post-conflict reconstruction.

Point two is the essential one:

2. Abandoning the Cold War mentality. The security of a country should not be pursued at the expense of others. The security of a region should not be achieved by strengthening or expanding military blocs. The legitimate security interests and concerns of all countries must be taken seriously and addressed properly. There is no simple solution to a complex issue. All parties should, following the vision of common, comprehensive, cooperative and sustainable security and bearing in mind the long-term peace and stability of the world, help forge a balanced, effective and sustainable European security architecture. All parties should oppose the pursuit of one’s own security at the cost of others’ security, prevent bloc confrontation, and work together for peace and stability on the Eurasian Continent.

That point emphasizes the "equal and indivisible security" Putin had spoken of on February 23 2022. China is thereby fully supportive of Russia's core position.

Yesterday the United Nations General Assembly voted on a resolution that demands that Russia leave Ukraine. While the majority of countries voted in favor of the resolution those who voted against or abstained (including China, India, Pakistan, Iran, South Africa) represent nearly half of the global population.


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I see we have the return of another history distorter who just put its foot in its mouth as the UN Treaty was mostly negotiated at Dumbarton Oaks in 1944.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 24 2023 18:46 utc | 101

Hersh’s interview with RT’s Going Underground program will be aired tomorrow, but no time is given. Hersh isn’t backing down in what’s now a battle of credibility between him and the proven liar Biden.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 24 2023 19:07 utc | 102

So America and England have metaphorically speaking turned the world into a lunatic asylum, agreed ?
Well I just hope Russia and China are the men in the white coates that turn up and bundle the Lunatic into a straight jacket.
Could we be witnessing the frantic flailing of arms and legs right now, before hopefully peace and tranquillity returns ?
Hope so.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 24 2023 19:10 utc | 103

Dmitry Trenin provides a good perspective on the state of affairs as the SMO turns one year old. It’s his conclusion I see as most important:
“Closer cooperation and coordination between China and Russia amid the war in Ukraine, which is gradually emerging on the platform of common strategic interests, represents a major shift in the world power balance. What is more – and what goes well beyond the usual Western concept of ‘great power competition’ – is the rise of over a hundred actors of different caliber in many parts of the world that have refused to support the US, and its allies, on the Russia sanctions and have maintained or even expanded their trade and other relations with Moscow. These countries insist on following their own national interests as they see them and seek to expand their foreign policy autonomy. At the end of the day, this phenomenon – call it the Rise of the Global Majority (no longer silent) – could be the single most important development so far en route to the new world order.” [My Emphasis]
Outlaw US Empire hegemony is clearly on the wane and will shrink further going forward.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 24 2023 19:19 utc | 104

The USA cannot survive in a world where we are not the lone superpower. We have created too many “friends” around the world, by force. As soon as we give up power as a factor to maintain Allies these Allies will abandon us and feel free to pursue their own agendas without the US. Will will die as a lonely, sad, and forgotten once great nation. Without the power to murder innocents in the name of democracy we will wither up on the vine and rot away.

Posted by: DALE FERGUSON | Feb 24 2023 19:21 utc | 105

Btw, 49% of NordStream is owned by France, Italy and Germany.
Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 24 2023 18:24 utc | 98

That’s a big stretch. The NS2 49% is owned by 5 European companies, not the country of their business registration:
– Uniper (Düsseldorf, Germany)
– Wintershall Dea (Germany, with significant private Russian ownership)
– OMV (Vienna, Austria, with UAE a significant shareholder)
– Engie (France, with the French government the biggest shareholder)
– Royal Dutch Shell (HQ and registration moved to London, UK)

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 24 2023 19:31 utc | 106

Nord Stream 2 AG is the owner of NS2, which belongs only to Gazprom. You confuse investors with owners.

Posted by: rk | Feb 24 2023 19:42 utc | 107

I see the Biden team is touting their new sanctions on Russia, however, part will be paid by the Outlaw US Empire:
“Earlier on Friday, the White House announced additional sanctions against Russia, including an increase in tariffs on more than 100 Russian metals, minerals and chemical products worth approximately $2.8 billion.” [My Emphasis]
Just to make sure readers understand, a tariff is a tax on imports paid by the importing nation, which doesn’t stop the export of those products but raises their domestic cost–aids inflation’s rise. So as with Trump’s Trade War with China, imports aren’t curbed but their cost is raised for consumers. So, the Biden team scored yet another Own Goal and sees that as a success.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 24 2023 19:45 utc | 108

Karlof1 @ 108:
I’d bet that the sanctions on imports of Russian metals, minerals and chemical products are intended to benefit those businesses and corporations who are clients or former clients of the WestExec consultant crowd in the White House. The sanctions would crush any potential investors and new businesses, thus removing competition and innovation that would eat into the clients’ profits.

Posted by: Jen | Feb 24 2023 20:10 utc | 109

“Right now, it’s not time to talk about peace, it is time to arm them,” Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly…“There is no other option than victory.” …
Joly says the threat with the war is existential for Canada. “We’ve been the architect of many of the rules that we now know, that are our underpinning international rules-based order — I hate that word — but the international system.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/24/canada-russia-ukraine-war-00084270
The rules-based-order is an existential issue for Canada? No other option than war? Most Canadians were content with the Pearson-era notion of neutral peace-keeping, but that concept had been steadily deliberately diminished over the years since 1991.

Posted by: jayc | Feb 24 2023 20:13 utc | 110

I believe there is a place for tariffs, but as for sanctions I think they are a fools game and this has been proven.
The purpose of tariffs is to protect local industry from insidious ones wanting to get their claws in unfairly and in a manner harms the local citizenry.

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 24 2023 20:13 utc | 111

@karlof1 | Feb 24 2023 17:16 utc | 83,

Sun Yat Sen’s the father of both the KMT and CPC and in the 1911 revolution that both parties revere stated China’s Rejuvenation must be the overall political goal…

Respectfully, I’d like to make a correction: Mr. Sun Yat-Sen is not a CPC founder. He is indeed KMT’s founder though the organization name at the beginning was not KMT. My impression is that CPC highly respects Mr. Sun and calls him a revolutionary pioneer. China’s Rejuvenation is truly Mr. Sun’s ultimate goal as well as CPC’s. However, it may not be KMT’s, at least since Chiang KS’s reign. The elites in KMT are more like compradors though KMT did attract a lot of patriots for a better China.

Posted by: LuRenJia | Feb 24 2023 20:16 utc | 112

Do not do to others what you do not want for yourself. Even if they do it to you.
1. Non-cruelty.
2. Truthfulness.
3. Non-theft.
4. Self-control
4. Mercy.
5. Simpathy.
6. Forgiveness.
7. Simplicity.
8. Self-control.
9. Not indulge.
10. Purity
Even in the war, those are the basics to be a human.
Are you a human?

Posted by: Jeeva | Feb 24 2023 20:17 utc | 113

I’d like to claim here and now that I’m a human and basically I agree with the list of 10 you post.

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 24 2023 20:19 utc | 114

If you mean the West to be the Taiwanese West.
There will be no storming of the beaches.
Posted by: Elmagnostic | Feb 24 2023 13:56 utc | 19
No, of course not – US is a master at starting fights in the manner of ‘hey, let’s have a fight between you and them’ then in the next breath saying ‘we are right behind you to the last – insert country here’. But the West (which is mostly the US) is coming for China, and they will fight to the last Taiwanese. But our boys storm the beaches; Na we gots to stand in line at the Taco Bell on USA McBase #12….it’s Tuesday!

Posted by: drsmith | Feb 24 2023 20:19 utc | 115

So, as to a follow-up of the claim made, I think I can prove that I exist.
And per #5 “sympathy” is the spelling I’m familiar with, but who needs sticklers when it comes to principle.
Not I.
I support local commerce and more than that – I plan on being involved in said and as long as the dimwits don’t blow us all up, that is my plan for the future.
~
anybody interested in peppers – get a hold of me – I’ll trade across oceans.

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 24 2023 20:22 utc | 116

Self-control.
If the RF would haven’t self-control, the death would be a mess. Maybe, it’s not a problem for your consciousness, but it’s a factual phenomenom…, that must be a concern for you.
Self-restriction is the power to be poised. Whatever try to derail my objective, I do not care about. No cheat, no word.
I am who I am

Posted by: Jeeva | Feb 24 2023 20:26 utc | 117

Posted by: Jeeva | Feb 24 2023 20:26 utc | 117
Of course. You aren’t talking to yourself are you and are interested in peppers?
Of course you are who you are, and I am as well. We all are.
So seriously – we need trade – do we not?

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 24 2023 20:29 utc | 118

Are U interested in peppers?
If not, no skin off my back – I’ll find other trading partners.
So don’t get your feathers ruffled – trade takes discourse and not of one of us is alone…
that seems evident.

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 24 2023 20:30 utc | 119

@ karlof1 | Feb 24 2023 19:45 utc | 108
“Earlier on Friday, the White House announced additional sanctions against Russia. . .imports aren’t curbed but their cost is raised for consumers.
Biden claims he’s democratic not oligarchic, but he’s wrong. These sanctions and others are based on a “national emergency” that Biden himself declared on April 15, 2021. The reasons for Biden on his own declaring a “national emergency” are pure BS. There is nothing “democratic” about it, and now we get to pay more for the goods imported from Russia in compliance with the many sanctions ordered by Biden with more oligarchic Executive Orders.
Executive Order 14024 of April 15, 2021
I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States of America, find that specified harmful foreign activities of the Government of the Russian Federation—in particular, efforts to undermine the conduct of free and fair democratic elections and democratic institutions in the United States and its allies and partners; to engage in and facilitate malicious cyber-enabled activities against the United States and its allies and partners; to foster and use transnational corruption to influence foreign governments; to pursue extraterritorial activities targeting dissidents or journalists; to undermine security in countries and regions important to United States national security; and to violate well-established principles of international law, including respect for the territorial integrity of states—constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States. I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 24 2023 20:37 utc | 120

“I am who I am” means that you are the human who you are. You deserve to be you without interferences and lies.
The list is simply a motive to meditate about the qualities that I would prefer to be exemplified in my life, everyday.
Everone want(s) to be free: to be free you must follow the law: don’t cheat and you’ll be fine.
A salute.

Posted by: Jeeva | Feb 24 2023 20:47 utc | 121

It’s clear what China is trying to do and in many ways it’s admirable. But even they can’t wall out the forces of history. The USA has its entire sense of nationhood invested in its post-WW2 hegemony. When we factor in the trillions that depend on that hegemony—and the trillions they bank on still to come—we have to ask if the Chinese are naive or cynical. Naive if they think the USA is going to say mea culpa and start playing nice while its ruling class suffer massive financial loss now and forever. Cynical if what they’re doing is trying to capture all the high ground to deprive the US of the monopoly on a moral right to act they have enjoyed without question for 80 years, all the while knowing full well that historically the USA is incapable of such an about-face. In any case, the whole approach is predicted on the idea that the USA can ‘decide’ to change when the whole structure of American capitalism stands or falls with its hegemonic position. I mean the Chinese have read their Lenin, right? Imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism?
The point I’m making is that America’s hegemony is not reducible to some half-assed ‘bully in the playground’ analogy. It is a function of an extraordinarily specific and complex world historical situation both within the USA (FDR’s New Deal gamble—which paid off big time establishing accord between industry and labour for 40 years) and outside it (the post-war histories of Europe and the ME, not to mention the Asia-Pacific, were shaped by that hegemony, and their ruling classes owe their prosperity to it). One cannot understand the level of commitment to Ukraine without taking this embodied history (as Bourdieu would say) into account. The Western elite really do believe that the fall of Ukraine would signal their eclipse. Are they wrong? Never underestimate how dirty a ruling class will play to prevent losing its position.
The reality is that the US global model is decaying rapidly. The new stage of historical capitalism belongs to those who create value in production. This means sweeping out the vampiric parasitism of rentier financialised capitalism.
But the Chinese have got Buckley’s chance of getting traction with this paper. So, what’s their play here? They’re telling the rest of the world: “we will break with 500 years of European colonial exploitation and domination. We will help you get on your feet without crippling you because if you’re doing well, we’ll do well and we can both get rich together”. They know that history will take care of the US and they can wait that out. In the meantime this ‘list’ is simply a list of what China is not going to do as an emerging hegemonic alternative.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 24 2023 20:51 utc | 122

PS.: Neither you nor me know who we are. The evidence is that you do not have the memory of the period when you were 1 yo. Why do you don’t remember your beginning in this world?

Posted by: Jeeva | Feb 24 2023 20:55 utc | 123

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 24 2023 20:51 utc | 122
I think the Chinese have calculated that if it comes to WAR they will prevail.
Simple as that and thanks Jeeva
I’m imagining you here with me now, you and Kropotkin, and what the hell, why not have Lenin here as well and together we could contemplate the qualities you exemplify, and I don’t know about them, but I find them laudable.
BK

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 24 2023 20:58 utc | 124

Posted by: Jen | Feb 24 2023 20:10 utc | 109
off-topic post
~
Hey Jen – have I seen you around? I think so and do you remember what I said years ago. If it is you I’m thinking of I remember what you said back then a long time ago….problem is I got banned from that place, and if you are not the Jen I have in my memory, then please accept my apologies, but being some other things I’ve seen lately, I’m pretty sure you are the same Jen I saw back then.
~
And the purpose of this message you might inquire – this off-topic post – I’d like to suggest that it is a small world and that good ideas resonate. So, I say it to you not expecting any response (and please don’t respond), but I just want you to know what I think. I like to share ideas and besides that….I have peppers for sale, and I play fair, but don’t eff with me and I won’t eff with you. Simple really.
~
Blessings to you,
BK

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 24 2023 21:11 utc | 125

Addendum to my last.
1. Some excellent posts here have made similar points to mine. #9 was especially good, but many reassure me that my own perspective is not wildly off centre.
2. The US military is a legacy of WW2 which is slowly eroding and will ultimately give way to mercenary forces hired by various oligarchic interests. I can expect Musk to build a private army soon if he hasn’t done so on the QT already.
3. That means from the perspective of the US state, which is still nominally independent of the oligarchs and still half believes in fairy-tales from the old world like the Constitution, the continuity of ‘America’ depends on re-industrialising the USA and de-industrialising the rest of the world. That can only be done by exercising what remaining military dominance it has.
4. If I were asked to wargame this situation as the USA I’d be looking to mobilise the US and go onto a war economy, nationalise industry, railroads, the MIC and send US forces into Ukraine. However, my main enemy would not be Russia, but Wall St/City of London—because in reality, my strategy would be to re-industrialise the US by means of war rather than win a war by mobilising industry. For that to work war cannot be a racket and finance capital would have to back off. In other words, I’d study FDR’s presidencies very carefully. The effective mobilization of the US working class is the key, but at the moment they are atrophied and depoliticised. But many among you will guess what I’m suggesting: a socialist USA is the only route…

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 24 2023 21:14 utc | 126

“Therefore, I disagree with Mearsheimer (who I intellectually admire) saying that only Russia is threatened existentially. USA felt threatened this way since the beginning of the 20th century.”
Posted by: HansWurst | Feb 24 2023 12:28 utc | 3
I saw this interview on You Tube. It was an exclusive interview on CGTN with Xu Qinduo. And I recall the point he made that you are talking about and found it a bit strange that Mr. John Mearsheimer (JM) would suggest that only Russia is threatened existentially. But to be fair to JM, he also said that in the struggle between Russia and Ukraine, that Ukraine also considered it as existential as well. I disagree with that statement only because Ukraine could end the war at any time by just agreeing to become a “neutral country” and forgo membership in the NATO Bloc.
As far as the US is concerned, the ruling elites used the media pushed the nuclear war scare mongering frighten the bajebies out of the average American citizen in order to insure, and increase, tax funding for the MIC. So, JM may have been correct on that account. In fact, even now it appears that US elites still lack sufficient fear and respect for the possible nuclear Armageddon of their creation.

Posted by: Ed | Feb 24 2023 21:14 utc | 127

I’m not able to get around the internet like most folks here whether by being blocked or just too damn lazy to dig down deep. I have my list of bookmarked Pro-Russian sites that I look in at every day but I did not see the articles presented here the first being Blinky’s absolutely stupid and insidious comments or the wonderful negative comments about Nuland. The CCTV interview with Wenbin was a close third for the delicious commentary put forth about the warmongering US by him.
At times I’m jumping up and down with delight and cackling like mad over some snippet of internet news I read here OR I’m fuming and grinding my teeth so bad I feel like being Bruce Willis as he feeds somebodies face in until it turns to hamburger.

Posted by: safe | Feb 24 2023 21:16 utc | 128

@ Opport Knocks 106
@ rk 107
Wrong. Read the Consolidated Finanacial statements.
do not confuse those who loaned the funds for NordStream construction vs the Germany AG shareholders and the subsidiary companies incorporated in Germany or Switzerland.
Example:
Wintershall and ENGIE are wholly owned subsidiaries of the giant BASF GmbH Yes, that German company, BASF one of the largest companies in the world.
https://www.nord-stream.com/about-us/our-shareholders/

Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 24 2023 21:20 utc | 129

– Austerity;
– Satisfaction;
– Conviction;
– Devotion;
– Refletion;
– Modesty;
– Discrimination;
– Discerniment;
– Commitment;
– Faith

Posted by: Jeeva | Feb 24 2023 21:22 utc | 130

@122 Patroklos
I’ve seen so many articles and comment boards spouting this same nonsense all the time and it’s not correct at all. For those that want to get “off” the clownworld merry-go-round all they have to do is divest themselves of usd, withdraw from SWIFT as there is now a couple of options these days and finally, refuse to interact with any agent or financial entity that has the ussa as it’s daddy. There is even a scenario where any country eyeballs deep in IMF or World Bank debt all they have to do is invite China or Russia to their country and enter into a better arrangement that pays off this debt. Even if they are beholden to those countries it isn’t anywhere as sad as being in the clutches of the demonic ussa or their lackeys. End of. Period. Mic drop.

Posted by: safe | Feb 24 2023 21:25 utc | 131

Do no try to skip anyone. The proficiency on everyone is a must to be “I am”. To be human, we must be experts in those qualities.
If not, we are done.
Salute et força al canut!

Posted by: Jeva | Feb 24 2023 21:30 utc | 132

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 24 2023 19:07 utc | 102
RIA has been blocked here since long ago just like RT in english, RT russian was not but now it is too, so it’s a hassle the work arounds when trying to follow a link to those sites. In any case search and you’ll find, here a couple of teasers of the interview. Nothing new really, but interesting anyway.
https://yandex.ru/video/preview/3764941050117636197
https://yandex.ru/video/preview/11364204473137556204

Posted by: Paco | Feb 24 2023 21:33 utc | 133

I agree with Martyanov’s take on the Chinese initiative…(bolding is mine)
Per Chinese “Plan”.
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2023/02/per-chinese-plan.html

I want to stress that this “plan” is a classic exercise in ambiguity–aka for everything good, against everything bad–which is exactly what is needed for Russia at this time. Generalities and obfuscations. That is why Moscow favorably met those “proposals”.
МОСКВА, 24 фев — РИА Новости. Москва высоко ценит искреннее стремление китайских друзей внести вклад в урегулирование конфликта на Украине мирным путем, сообщается на сайте Министерства иностранных дел России.”Разделяем соображения Пекина. Привержены принципам соблюдения Устава ООН, норм международного права, в том числе гуманитарного, неделимости безопасности, согласно которому безопасность одной страны не должна укрепляться в ущерб безопасности другой, что применимо и к безопасности отдельных групп стран”, — говорится в заявлении.
Translation: MOSCOW, February 24 – RIA Novosti. Moscow highly appreciates the sincere desire of Chinese friends to contribute to the settlement of the conflict in Ukraine by peaceful means, according to the website of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. “We share Beijing’s views. We are committed to the principles of observing the UN Charter, the norms of international law, including humanitarian law, the indivisibility of security, according to which the security of one country should not be strengthened at the expense of the security of another, which is also applicable to the security of certain groups of countries,” the statement says.
Moscow is totally for diplomatic peaceful solution… based on her “proposals” from December 2021. Russia has some excellent international law lawyers, plus, everybody in Russia knows this Ostap Bender’s phrase from immortal 12 Chairs by Ilf and Petrov. And no less immortal original movie by Leonid Gaidai.
Dialogue:
Official,
-So, you wanna say that this is your boy?
Bender,
-A boy. Those who want to say that he is a girl, let them first cast the stone.
You see, Moscow also can play dumb, while being very shrewd. Nuland and her neocon cabal who pretend that they know Russia, should have studied modern Russian culture (XX-XXI centuries) more thoroughly. But then again, don’t hold you breath.

I especially agree with the tenor of that last bold sentence. This is precisely what I’ve been saying: you can’t rely on Russia explicitly stating what their end game is in complete specifics.
And the same goes for China.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 24 2023 21:43 utc | 134

This week China has made what may be one of the most important diplomatic moves in its recent history. This was done with the publication of 3 texts.
The first one details how the US in the building and keeping of its hegemony has been a sort of cancer on the planet and its people.
The second one details the principles according to which it believes international relations should be conducted.
The third one is a 12 point peace plan for the Ukrainian conflict.
While not being outwardly rejected (but almost so in the US) by the West, for fear of appearing as warmongering, China’s Ukraine proposals will be cast aside. They don’t go for Ukraine total victory and they call for mutual security which was the basis of Russian demands before the war.
Once these peace proposals are refused by the West, China will have much less difficulty arguing to the Rest of the world that what it said about the US was true.
The West will not only lose an off ramp out of the conflict (for the price of China taking the wise man role in international relations) before it gets really bad. The rejection of China’s initiative coupled with mounting anti China sanctions and policies will justify (to the Rest of the world) China’s support to Russia.
With an already fledgling Ukraine on the brink, China’ support to Russia will finally break it (and China will reap most of the glory of Russia’s victory), unless the West goes full in.
If the West goes full in the world will break in 3 : the West, China/Russia /et al, the Rest.
In the situation of brutal decoupling the fate of the world will likely hinge on what the Rest chooses.

Posted by: Saracen’s Head | Feb 24 2023 21:54 utc | 135

@drsmith (10) You forgot to “…and American, too” to the part ‘…they will let Europeans starve’. USA is hurting, too, much more than people realize. We just don’t hear about it just we don’t hear about like we don’t hear the Chinese government’s position on many things. All the numbers the US officially published about inflation, joblessness, homelessness, crime…..anything you can think of bad are all horribly inaccurate and understated.
You nailed it. The quality of life in the United States is in a fairly steep decline that affects nearly everyone except the very wealthy. In your listing of things going in the wrong direction, you left out a deeply dysfunctional health care system, shortened lifespans, lousy education, gross inequalities in wealth and income and an opioid addiction crisis, amongst other things. All of this is the result of militarism and a neoliberal order imposed equally by the two major political parties. The US spends more than a trillion dollars each year on defense and security while infrastructure and human needs go begging. The American people are at one another’s throats, and yet they ignore the oligarchs and corporate masters who are robbing their futures.
The abbreviated American Century is, indeed, coming to an end.

Posted by: Rob | Feb 24 2023 22:02 utc | 136

Interestingly both the Chinese PLAN/PLAA have updated Rubicon warnings in English. On the standard international UHF/VHF calling air/maritime channels. To all USSA approaching war toys. Cross the line and……… “Your Choice”. Basically, this is the same USSA standard warning used for all USSA naval carrier groups. The worldwide.
That which goes around comes around.
It would appear in an age of the new multipolar world. The age of tolerance of all USSA military cowboys’ irresponsible arrogant behavior has come to an end.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Feb 24 2023 22:08 utc | 137

Actually, Taiwan has never formally declared independence, and those who like to stir things up around the world claim it ‘considers itself independent’. As usual, you only hear the side of the story the western elites want you to hear. Less than 3% of the population is indigenous, and the rest are as Chinese as the wonton.

Posted by: Mark | Feb 24 2023 22:15 utc | 138

1. Non-cruelty.
2. Truthfulness.
3. Non-theft.
4. Self-control
4. Mercy.
5. Simpathy.
6. Forgiveness.
7. Simplicity.
8. Self-control.
9. Not indulge.
10. Purity
Even in war, those are the basics to be a human.
Are you a human?
Posted by: Jeeva | Feb 24 2023 20:17 utc | 113
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What are you Jeeva, a Buddhist Monk? Yes, all of those qualities are laudable, but you obviously know nothing about war or being a human being while fighting for your life.

Posted by: Ed | Feb 24 2023 22:37 utc | 139

Sobriety is up against cocaine induced surrealism, as in China and Russia is up against the western values…
https://www.powerthesaurus.org/sobriety/antonyms

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Feb 24 2023 22:41 utc | 140

Posted by: Ed | Feb 24 2023 22:37 utc | 139
you are right on the money… in a war zone you do whatever you need to survive, or you cease to be a “human” and become a bag of rotting flesh… and bags of rotting flesh, have no use for “morals”

Posted by: Oldcutlas | Feb 24 2023 22:47 utc | 141

Austerity;
– Satisfaction;
– Conviction;
– Devotion;
– Refletion;
– Modesty;
– Discrimination;
– Discerniment;
– Commitment;
– Faith
Posted by: Jeeva | Feb 24 2023 21:22 utc | 130
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Ok choir boy, what is you point? Do you have anything to say about the subject of this string?
Let me help you, it is “U.S. Hegemony – At War with China’s Global Security Initiative.” This is not a Church.

Posted by: Ed | Feb 24 2023 23:03 utc | 142

China knows that the proposal is not going anywhere. And Russia knows it too.
But the purpose is another. It is important, because China has joined the table. And now it is four parties, 2on2, vs 2on1 before. And if,
some day, Europe wants to switch sides, it becomes a 3to1. The earlier the better. Waiting for India now..
But China is too big for Europe to ignore.. If the US wants to take on China, next to Russa, that is their thing. But now Europe has to
seriously consider what is in it for them. All the factories and markets are in China. Lose the markets, factories, and raw materials all in
the span of 1 or 2 years, well done.. Better turn on your brains, for a change, Europe. If there is anything there.

Posted by: C | Feb 24 2023 23:03 utc | 143

Let Them Try!
Ura.
Trying to cheer up this Friday night at bar😘

Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 24 2023 23:06 utc | 144

Posted by: Ed | Feb 24 2023 22:37 utc | 139
you are right on the money… in a war zone you do whatever you need to survive, or you cease to be a “human” and become a bag of rotting flesh… and bags of rotting flesh, have no use for “morals”
Posted by: Oldcutlas | Feb 24 2023 22:47 utc | 141
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I never said that, so please don’t put fucking words into my comments.

Posted by: Ed | Feb 24 2023 23:13 utc | 145

Zelensky likes parts of the Chinese proposal especially the bit about territorial integrity. He wants to discuss it with Xi. Presumably he sees some weakness there that can be used against Russia.
“Ukraine war: Zelensky keen to meet Xi following China’s peace plan
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64762219

Posted by: dh | Feb 24 2023 23:20 utc | 146

Posted by: C | Feb 24 2023 23:03 utc | 143
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I think that China’s “peace” offering is in response to the phony UN vote that demanded that Russia lay down its arms and leave the new Russian regions, including Crimea. The West made its phony and unreasonable demands for “PEACE” for the whole world to observe. Now it is China’s turn.

Posted by: Ed | Feb 24 2023 23:23 utc | 147

@ Richard Steven Hack 134
Russia and China’s position towards USUKIS is never to stop an enemy when they care making a mistake. This is not ambiguity, this is allowing the Wesr to make a total idiot of itself in front of the whole world. Every time the roboclones mention Russian illegal aggression in Ukraine, it conjures memories of specific multiple examples of USUKIS illegal aggression,
This is not ambiguity, this is allowing the West to parade its own nakedness, so that everybody can see that by projecting its crimes onto for example Russia they manage to see themselves as squeaky clean. Humouring the clinically insane. Like a Hogarth cartoon.
The script parrots the human stupidity like the monkey stealing the gin. You want war? OK here is war …. debilitating attrition of the UAF. Oh, you want Peace now, OK here is peace….. you have to obey the UN rules. It’s driving even the foaming neocons insane and they thrive on insanity.
Insanity R US is Neoconism’s brand name.

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 24 2023 23:49 utc | 148

” Likklemore@33
The Ukrainian nationalist appeal was deeply racist and had considerable success despite the obviously bogus idea that there is any ethnic divide between Ukrainians the people of Russia.
Posted by: bevin | Feb 24 2023 15:17 utc | 38 ”
Racist , really ? What race are Russians ? The Ukranians ?
The knee jerk ” racist ” trope needs to be put to pasture, its getting old now.

Posted by: Deplorable Commisar | Feb 24 2023 23:53 utc | 149

“Ukraine war: Zelensky keen to meet Xi following China’s peace plan
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64762219
Posted by: dh | Feb 24 2023 23:20 utc | 146
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Then he will be confronted with the desire by expressed by the people of the four Oblasts and Crimea who no longer wish to be a part of the Nazi nation of Ukraine.
Then Zelensky will counter Xi by pointing out that many people in Taiwan also want to leave China as well. Shouldn’t you (Xi) also allow them to leave?
Then Xi “could” respond that he surely will as soon as Kosovo and Bosnia are returned to Serbia, and all of Yugoslavia is reestablished to it its pre 1990 borders. A product of Western/ US/ NATO aggression against one of the last remaining socialist nations.
Then Zelensky will reply, “but, but that is impossible: You can’t change history.
Then Xi “should” respond that he understands, but it is also impossible to change the history of Ukraine. You (Zelensky) could have avoided all this pain and grief of war if only he had chosen peace rather than to become a war proxy for the US and NATO. But now that history has been made, it can’t be undone.
But what about Taiwan, Zelensky cries out in anger? Xi replies in a soft voice, that the history Taiwan and China has not been made yet, even though the US wishes to force it to be so.

Posted by: Ed | Feb 25 2023 0:00 utc | 150

Thanks for the various replies, additions and correction.
It was noted during the CPC’s 20th Party Congress that the new Politburo was going to present a harder line toward the Outlaw US Empire, and we are now seeing that harder line and its concomitant made public. Russia was already in on the plan and knowing what was to come likely influenced the content of Putin’s speech, but in what ways we can only guess. The Outlaw US Empire has yet to make any effort to deny the truths told by China in its Hegemony Paper or the series of accompanying Infographics it published. IMO, the plan’s brilliant as China has a massive audience–and cred–within RoW. The dynamic is fluid and changes will come. The main question for years was how to defeat the parasitic empire without going nuclear with the answer now becoming clear: Starve it. How? By forcing it to eat its own debt and force it to attempt to finance its empire on its own dime, not the RoW’s as it’s been since the initial attempt after WW1 and finishing the process after WW2.
The Outlaw US Empire is now trying to do what it did as described by Hudson in Super Imperialism and Destiny of Civilization where it was able to have RoW finance its Empire and related wars, although this time in Ukraine it’s using another people’s blood and bones to do its deeds because it can in this instance. It tried that in a major war once before by using Iraq against Iran and failed and has certainly used terrorists to accomplish its deeds many times before and continues that ploy. China’s Hegemony List cited some of those examples. Attacking the Empire’s Financial components and related choke points will help starve the beast and reduce its powers. Eventually, the Parasite will need to escalate its attack on those within the Empire to feed itself, but that won’t be easily done as resistance is already afoot.
Thanks to China, our Interesting Times just got more interesting.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2023 0:10 utc | 151

Posted by: safe | Feb 24 2023 21:25 utc | 131
What a civil reply! Take your know-all attitude back to the fourth grade (where you no doubt excelled) and try to engage in polite discussion, the hallmark of b’s bar. Nothing in your post addressed mine so it was not clear what was and wasn’t ‘nonsense’ in your exalted opinion (about which I could give a fuck).

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 25 2023 0:13 utc | 152

Ed @150 I see you have thought this through. It will be interesting to see what kind of reception Z gets in China. If he goes.

Posted by: dh | Feb 25 2023 0:19 utc | 153

anybody interested in peppers – get a hold of me – I’ll trade across oceans.
Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 24 2023 20:22 utc | 116
I would be interested if your peppers are chili peppers. Though I’m unable to trade right now, I lost all my seeds while moving three years ago 🙁 Loved the tiny Apache ones:
https://www.gardenersworld.com/plants/capsicum-annum-apache/

Posted by: Zet | Feb 25 2023 0:41 utc | 154

@ Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 24 2023 21:20 utc | 129
Apologies, I provided the information for the financial backers for NS2 whereas you were referencing NS1.
With respect to BASF’s majority ownership of Wintershall Dea, they have been attempting to spin off the company via an IPO, with resistance from the Russian minority shareholder.

LetterOne also said that an IPO could lead to excessive dividends that would weigh on long-term investments and that the market is currently shunning Russia-linked assets, putting an unjust discount on the business.
German chemicals giant BASF holds 67% of the ordinary shares in Wintershall Dea, or a total of 72.7% when preference shares are taken into account. Russian billionaire Mikhail Fridman’s LetterOne investor group, the former Dea owner, holds the rest.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/basf-wants-wintershall-dea-ipo-despite-report-co-owner-resistance-2022-01-31/

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 25 2023 0:47 utc | 155

This interesting info Escobar added to his Telegram:
“An employee of a diplomatic mission in Brussels who has access to information about the size of blocked Russian assets also confirmed on condition of anonymity that the amount of Russian Central Bank currency reserves currently found in EU countries does not exceed 33.8 billion euros.
33.8 billion instead of 300 billion.”
“After blocking all transactions with the Russian Central Bank in February last year, the location of all 300 billion euros of Russian reserves has not yet been established. He suggests that this may be due to the structure of Russian foreign asset management, which may be much more complicated than previously imagined.”
“European financial authorities, despite their statements about blocking 300 billion euros belonging to the Central Bank of Russia, have not found these funds.”
Source: m.delfi.lt
In many ways: USA: Laurel EU: Hardy.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2023 0:57 utc | 156

I wonder if China is more positioning itself in world opinion by calling for peace than actually wanting a Ukraine solution. Why? Because it sees itself as the next target of US aggression. By assuming the role of peacemaker they position themselves positively in world opinion. When the US shows up in the South China Sea, they can point to their efforts to reach peace when/if they sink a few US carriers.
As for a ceasefire; is only in Ukraine/NATO/US interests, not Russia. The likelihood that Z and his managers would use the ceasefire to rearm Ukraine yet again is far too high. And once springs comes in a few months time, Ukraine will be a sea of mud making military movement difficult.
Now why Russia would entertain this effort of China’s? Because they see the underlying reason, China wanting to do what it can to buffer US aggression regarding Taiwan and is willing to help a friend out. Just a thought

Posted by: Bonami | Feb 25 2023 0:59 utc | 157

The knee jerk ” racist ” trope needs to be put to pasture, its getting old now.
Posted by: Deplorable Commisar | Feb 24 2023 23:53 utc | 149

True, the phrase “ethno-cultural” should be used instead of “race”.
“Race” can then revert to Olympic type competitions.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 25 2023 1:00 utc | 158

The craftiness of Russia’s MFA staff is in tip form as this TASS article reveals:

Russia ready for talks on the peaceful implementation of the goal of its special military operation in Ukraine, no other options are acceptable, Russian Permanent Representative to the United Nations Vasily Nebenzya said on Friday.
“We have repeatedly said that we are ready for talks on how the goal of our special military operation could be achieved by peaceful means. Naturally, schemes based on other scenarios will not be even looked at,” he said.
“We have already said it more than once this week that it is the collective West that is not interested in stopping combat operations in Ukraine. As we already know for sure, the West did not let Kiev strike a peace deal in March-April 2022,” he noted. “Everything satisfies our Western colleagues now. The Russians and Ukrainians are killing each other, Western defense concerns earn lavish profits and have a testing ground for tests of new weapons. NATO is getting rid of old weapons and is gradually rearming.”
Moreover, the United States is weakening its European rivals “who are demonstrating unprecedented servility and impotence,” he pointed out.
China’s plan of settlement
Moscow welcomes China’s plan of settlement, Russian Permanent Representative to the United Nations added. “We hail sincere efforts on a way to peace, such as, for example, China’s proposal,”Nebenzya said.
“The collective West must recognize the fact that there are other players on our planet who have their own interests and it is necessary to co-exist with them and even cooperate with them in mutual interests but on an equal basis,” Nebenzya stressed. “The unipolar world is in the past and it is in our common interest to see to it that the transition to a multipolar world proceeds without shocks. I would like to believe that the ‘hot phase’ of this transition will be confined to the Ukrainian crisis.”
However, in his words, the West continues to aggravate the situation by flooding Ukraine with weapons. “And as long as you are leaving us no options other that to eliminate the threats to Russia coming from the Ukrainian territory by military means,” he said. “Think about it when you are inventing new anti-Russian initiatives within the United Nations and presenting them as global support for Ukraine.”
Ukraine’s ‘peace summit’
Russian Permanent Representative to the United Nations also claimed that Ukraine’s ‘peace summit’ proves to be media hype and fuss.
“Today, a difficult week for the United Nations is coming to a close. This week will be remembered for media hype and fuss organized by Ukraine and its Western sponsors on the anniversary of the beginning of Russia’s special military operation in Ukraine. It looks like that this is what the ‘peace summit’ [Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry] Kuleba announced in New York back in January has been reduced to,” he said.

IMO, this is the diplomatic version of being “pantsed”–having your pants pulled down in public.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2023 1:12 utc | 159

The link and quote on Minsk agreements that got everybody confused is dating from February 2022, when Minsk was still somewhat relevant. Just look at the URL:
https://www.mfa.gov.cn/eng/zxxx_662805/202202/t20220220_10643724.html

Posted by: mariob | Feb 25 2023 1:40 utc | 160

Deplorable Commisar@149
The ideology of the Ukrainian Nationalists is quite explicitly racist in the terms it employs. A Nazi knock off the Bandera theory is that Ukrainians and Russians are quite different races- Ukrainians descended from Viking warriors, Russians, an inferior lot, a mongrel race descended from Mongols, Tatars, slavs etc.
It is of course utter rubbish. As are most racial theories. There are no races, certainly there is no racial divide between Ukrainians and Russians. But that is not the theory of those who are fighting the ‘orcs’ torturing them and killing prisoners. Hence my assertion that the Ukrainian nationalists, consciously channeling the legacy of their forebears the Concentration Camp guards, the killers of Jews, Reds and Poles, the men of the Galician Division of the Waffen SS are guided by what they consider to be racist ideas.
What would you, and your friend OpportKnocks, suggest?
My guess is that you simply hate to hear the term ‘racist’ used in a derogatory sense for the most obvious reasons.

Posted by: bevin | Feb 25 2023 1:46 utc | 161

@ Ed 145
I didn’t put words in your fucking mouth, I agreed with your statement and added to it…
Don’t try to put intent to my fucking post!!

Posted by: Oldcutlas | Feb 25 2023 1:51 utc | 162

Patrick Lawrence writes about both Putin’s speech and the Chinese Paper on Hegemony.
“..I have read much of what Putin has had to say over the past year in the context of the Joint Declaration on International Relations Entering a New Era that Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping made public in Beijing on Feb. 4, 2022. This, one of the essential political texts of our time, can be read in various ways.
“One is as a blueprint for a century during which the non–West breaks its various dependencies on the West, longstanding as these are, and achieves parity with the West for the first time in more than half a millennium…”
He quotes Stoltenberg, who would be out of his depth in a saucer as remarking “..“With today’s decision on New START,” NATO Secretary–General Jens Stoltenberg said at a joint press conference in Kiev with Dmitry Kuleba, the Ukrainian regime’s foreign minister, “the whole arms control architecture has been dismantled….”
“..Who has been dismantling the architecture, Mr. Stoltenberg? I have to say, of all the NATO sec-gens I have had to watch over the years, this guy goes home with the cake. He’s Washington’s jukebox: American officials put in a quarter and Jens sings the selected song.”
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/02/24/patrick-lawrence-russias-new-reset-with-the-west/

Posted by: bevin | Feb 25 2023 1:56 utc | 163

” It is of course utter rubbish. As are most racial theories. There are no races,
Posted by: bevin | Feb 25 2023 1:46 utc | 161 ”
I’m glad you pointed this out as I was starting to believe this genetics pseudo science mumbo jumbo. There are obviously no genes, just a made up distraction to divide us all.
https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=770.0000166893005,quality=100,fit=scale-down/system/media_attachments/files/128/840/187/original/bd0d06ac531745d2.png

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Feb 25 2023 2:06 utc | 164

” True, the phrase “ethno-cultural” should be used instead of “race”.
“Race” can then revert to Olympic type competitions.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 25 2023 1:00 utc | 158 ”
Absolutely. If you put a Chinese, Russian, Somali, and Iraqi in a room, the only way to tell them apart would be by their cultural garb and the different languages they speak. Dress them up in the same clothes and it turns into a guessing game.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Feb 25 2023 2:09 utc | 165

I always thought it inevitable there would be a third world war, but that it would not take place until the mid 2030’s. Unless the US ‘democrats’ lose the next election in 2024, it will arrive ten years early.

Posted by: Oh | Feb 25 2023 2:11 utc | 166

” Then Xi “could” respond that he surely will as soon as Kosovo and Bosnia are returned to Serbia, and all of Yugoslavia is reestablished to it its pre 1990 borders. A product of Western/ US/ NATO aggression against one of the last remaining socialist nations.
Then Zelensky will reply, “but, but that is impossible: You can’t change history. ”
Let me adjust one thing.
” Then Zelensky will reply, “but, but what about Tibet and the Uyghurs ”

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Feb 25 2023 2:15 utc | 167

@80 faults of the Muslims, for instance in their habit of betrothing their offspring to their first cousins, which is a strange form of self-destructive and other-destructive tyranny.
Not only Muslims! India’s Hindus may do this on occasion. It happens because large families often spend a lot of time together..Oops! Let’s get them married. The culture does not oppose.

Posted by: HelenB | Feb 25 2023 2:44 utc | 168

Deplorable Commisar | Feb 24 2023 23:53 utc | 149
What race are Russians ?
Russians belong to the human race, as do most members here, (though some are more simian than others). Russia has abolished line 5 on internal passports (which defined ethnicity). Perhaps it was just too complex. My eldest daughter is Russian/Tatarka, my youngest is Russian/Tatarka, Anglo Irish, Welsh, Jew, Romani and Aboriginal, percentages may vary. Russians tend to judge people by the colour of their heart, not the colour of their skin. My eldest granddaughter has two BFF, one is Nigerian/Tatarka, the other is Korean/Russian. The Nigerian/Tatarka girl could not wear the traditional pom-pom in her hair for her first bell (September 1, the start of the school year). So my granddaughter demanded that her mother do something about it. I suggested to my daughter that she put pom-poms on combs that went into the girl’s frizzy hair. I now have a photo of three Russian girls with pom-poms in their hair, white blouses, black skirts white tights and black shoes, despite their ethnic origins, all are Russian!

Posted by: Peter Williams | Feb 25 2023 2:46 utc | 169

Peter Williams @169–
Bravo!

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2023 2:55 utc | 170

” I now have a photo of three Russian girls with pom-poms in their hair, white blouses, black skirts white tights and black shoes, despite their ethnic origins, all are Russian!
Posted by: Peter Williams | Feb 25 2023 2:46 utc | 169 ”
I concur. Russia is the bastion of racial and ethnic harmony. In fact Russia, should allow unrestricted immigration from African , Middle Eastern and Latin American countries as the people from those places will bring prosperity and peace just like in Europe and the US.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Feb 25 2023 2:57 utc | 171

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Feb 25 2023 2:57 utc | 171
Sir (and I use that with regret), you are a racist arsehole who wouldn’t survive five minutes in Russia. I’m pinkish grey, white to racists like you. I speak Russian (badly as I learnt it from old Believers). But I get by and am accepted. People are polite and don’t correct my mistakes, even though I want them to. Russia has very strict immigration laws, but if you speak Russian and know its history and laws, you will be accepted. If you’re black, brown or brindled it won’t matter. Maybe you should watch this documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exOfI41eALk

Posted by: Peter Williams | Feb 25 2023 3:14 utc | 172

@152 Patroklos
Lofl, your whole diatribe was about the US financial system’s complexity and enveloping infrastructure of the world’s commerce and transactions which seemed like a comment on it’s all-encompassing reach everywhere. I was just telling you that that is wrong and it is easily sloughed off when needed. Sorry I disagreed with your thought process but somebody needs to set people straight when they try to push an incorrect assumption.

Posted by: safe | Feb 25 2023 3:24 utc | 173

” Sir (and I use that with regret), you are a racist arsehole who wouldn’t survive five minutes in Russia. I’m pinkish grey, white to racists like you.
Posted by: Peter Williams | Feb 25 2023 3:14 utc | 172 ”
Why the hostility We are in agreement here ? The indigenous Russian population is shrinking, and to save Russia, it needs to be replenished. What better way then to bring in the millions of people from nations ,that are suffering through no fault of their own, into Russia ? Its a win win. The migrants get a chance at a new start and Russia grows its population. Why are you against this ?

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Feb 25 2023 3:28 utc | 174

30 i think i cheered a little reading about chinas starlink chess move. perfect

Posted by: hankster | Feb 25 2023 3:45 utc | 175

The CCP wants to prolong the Ukraine war indefinably. Why? Because the want to keep the US entangled while they prepare their military for Taiwan or other neighbors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVEoj_EZZrw
So Russia should not fall for this reason, being a useful combatant. The CCP will try to snare the EU for this purpose.
Internally Xi Jinping is not in total control anymore, as was proven by recent Himalayan agression or balloon releases. Another CCP faction and some LPA elements try to subvert him for their own purposes. One reason he hates to go abroad…
Joe Biden was never in control since his selection, but he turns out to be a ridiculous stop gap on live video. The Neo-Cons are biting off more than they can chew.

Posted by: Antonym | Feb 25 2023 3:46 utc | 176

But it’s going to take a very long time for the psy-op-bewildered western populations to wake up sufficiently to throw their elite bums out. That said, you can’t just throw them out without first having something better to replace them with which involves long, slow cultural processes. There is no such thing in play right now. Right now we are still in moral and material decline….
Lost, we are lost!
Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 24 2023 16:40 utc | 71
Whilst we have a culture swallowing the absurdity that wealth, often inherited, makes people our rightful leaders then nothing will change. Materialism is the opposite to spiritualism in its true sense, as long as we have a materialistic society then nothing can improve for humanity. An old comment was that pouring old wine into new bottles still gives the same wine.
Russia and China currently offer a better alternative in that its not the disaster we live under now, as such I support their side, however in reality it is just a step in the right direction, it is still a system in pursuit of money with elites and plebs.

Posted by: Organic | Feb 25 2023 4:00 utc | 177

Ever since the start of SMO in Ukraine the discussions here and in other media outlets were focussing, much more frequently than before, on the possibilities of the conflict between the collective West and China. They ranged from suggestions that the West is pushing Russia and China together to claims that the US should have aimed its proxies against China not Russia. With the most recent warnings (read threats) to China issued by US officials, the speculations about the potential armed conflict between the US and its allies and China abound.
On the face of it the danger of such a conflict seems palpable, but is it realistic. Some say that it is an old tactic of the US establishment to project an image of unhinged and irrational body ready to do anything, in order to frighten their adversaries. While this may be true, the question is whether they would in reality do anything even if only to prove the point. I do not think so. Especially not in the age of missiles and other stand off weapons, not to mention nuclear arms.
The wars are fought by militaries which must base their strategies on realities not propaganda. Does anyone believe that Western militaries (and even some politicians) do not know that their forces, their bases, their cities would be decimated in any direct conflict either with Russia or China, even if they would be able to inflict similar damage to their enemies. The colonial wars against the weak are still possible, but starting such wars against adversaries that are not weak, but in many ways much stronger than the West borders on the fantastic. Many would argue that the hotheads among the Western political elites are sufficiently insane to do just that, but the fact is that they are just doing their jobs. Mouthing insults and threats of which any decent person would be ashamed is assigned to this new breed of “leaders” by the real masters, because these “leaders” have no real power to do anything without the approval of their employers. The masters need something to lord over, otherwise what is the point.

Posted by: Pagan | Feb 25 2023 4:34 utc | 178

Antonym @ 176
Thanks for the laugh. China was not in the war in Ukraine or anywhere, but according to you, it is China’s fault everywhere: from Ukraine, EU, Himalaya, to “Taiwan or other neighbors”. Your anti-China diatribe is quite low grade.

Posted by: d dan | Feb 25 2023 5:23 utc | 179

@jared | Feb 24 2023 14:33 utc | 25
As long as there is a threat of war with Russia/China they will stay close to ground defenses. The US can’t afford to replace one group, let alone 11 at about $30 billion and some 10,000 personnel per group, never mind the aircraft and they are far too dangerous to leave afloat.

Posted by: Hermit | Feb 25 2023 5:40 utc | 180

Posted by: d dan | Feb 25 2023 5:23 utc | 180
As soon as you see CCP instead of CPC, you know to stop reading.
As for the race discussion, “There is only one race, the human race”.
I wrote that under a particularly nasty diatribe on Unz. You should have seen the poisonous comments that were slung at me. Well perhaps you did. But I don’t go there anymore either.

Posted by: Walt | Feb 25 2023 5:45 utc | 181

@Walt | Feb 25 2023 5:45 utc

As for the race discussion, “There is only one race, the human race”.

Yep, and it’s a race to the finish, winner takes all.

Posted by: majoab | Feb 25 2023 6:11 utc | 182

@ Deplorable Commissar 149
Indeed, anti-semitism is confounded by the fact that the Palestinians and Jews look the svand are ethnically themselves people, same as Russians and Ukranians.
The division in Ukraine is caused by Nationalism, on both sides as Trump would say. USUKIS have taken that seed of Ukranian nationalism and fired it in the crucible of indoctrination to become pure racism.
Yes it’s a trope, a USUKIS trope for the sole purpose of war against Russia. It is a crime against International Law to foment Nazism . It’s hate’s illusions I recall. I never really knew hate at all.

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 25 2023 6:21 utc | 183

@ 184 Look the same and are ethically the same people.

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 25 2023 6:23 utc | 184

As has been said, it was not news to Russia that US was not agreement capable. A replay of Minsk II at best. But they equally knew this wasn’t likely to go anywhere.
It simply looks to me like every step of the way, Russia tried to do the right thing, regardless, as if it would matter later, in a way the US never does (US does just the opposite, as if history is for losers, so if someone makes an offer to negotiate it’s simply dismissed–you should have thought of that when you disobeyed orders the first time).
This is virtually the opposite view of most of my fellow US citizens.
So while there is some question as to how serious Russia would have been with their offer, the greater is the onus on the west for pushing it aside anyway.

Posted by: Charles Peterson | Feb 25 2023 6:27 utc | 185

@Giyane | Feb 24 2023 23:49 utc | 148
Insightful comment, thanks.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 25 2023 6:40 utc | 186

@bevin | Feb 25 2023 1:56 utc | 163

He quotes Stoltenberg, who would be out of his depth in a saucer as remarking “..“With today’s decision on New START,” NATO Secretary–General Jens Stoltenberg said at a joint press conference in Kiev with Dmitry Kuleba, the Ukrainian regime’s foreign minister, “the whole arms control architecture has been dismantled….”
“..Who has been dismantling the architecture, Mr. Stoltenberg? I have to say, of all the NATO sec-gens I have had to watch over the years, this guy goes home with the cake. He’s Washington’s jukebox: American officials put in a quarter and Jens sings the selected song.”

On this blog, and long before the SMO, I have referred to Stoltenberg as a quisling. This is not just a matter of words, it is an essential understanding of his role as NATO Secretary–General and in fact as a political actor in general. He did not become a quisling when he became NATO Secretary–General, he became NATO Secretary–General because he had already proven himself to be a quisling. The sooner people understand this, the better.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 25 2023 6:59 utc | 187

@Oh | Feb 25 2023 2:11 utc | 166

I always thought it inevitable there would be a third world war, but that it would not take place until the mid 2030’s. Unless the US ‘democrats’ lose the next election in 2024, it will arrive ten years early.

Oh, you believe in elections?

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 25 2023 7:03 utc | 188

From Xinhuanet

MOSCOW, Feb. 24 (Xinhua) — The Russian Foreign Ministry on Friday praised a paper released by China stating its position on the political settlement of the Ukraine crisis.
In the document issued earlier in the day, China calls for international efforts to create conditions for the resumption of peace talks, saying that dialogue and negotiation are the only viable solution to the Ukraine crisis.
“We highly value the aspiration of our Chinese friends to contribute to a settlement of the conflict in Ukraine through peaceful means,” the ministry’s spokesperson Maria Zakharova said in a statement.
“We share the views of China. We are committed to complying with the principles of the UN Charter and the provisions of international law, including humanitarian law and indivisibility of security,” she said.
“As for the Ukraine crisis, Russia is open to achieving the goals of the special military operation via political and diplomatic means,” Zakharova said.

It will cause more pearl clutching when the goals of the SMO are revisited.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 25 2023 7:07 utc | 189

@karlof1 | Feb 24 2023 17:16 utc | 83,
Sun Yat Sen’s the father of both the KMT and CPC and in the 1911 revolution that both parties revere stated China’s Rejuvenation must be the overall political goal…
Respectfully, I’d like to make a correction: Mr. Sun Yat-Sen is not a CPC founder.

Why say it respectfully if the person you respond to is the one nitpicking about “history distorters” of the foundation of the UN? Just say he’s full of shit and be done with it.
***
On the opposite side, the Brazilian vote for the UN resolution is also somewhat surprising to me with Lula as the new president.
Posted by: Konrad | Feb 24 2023 17:05 utc | 81

Why surprising?! Lula is the choice of the CIA!!!

Posted by: Kathemy | Feb 25 2023 8:10 utc | 190

Are U interested in peppers?
Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 24 2023 20:30 utc | 119
“For me, pepper, I put it on my plate.” – Jean Cretien, 1997

Posted by: Drinky Crow | Feb 25 2023 8:25 utc | 191

“Chretien”

Posted by: Drinky Crow | Feb 25 2023 8:26 utc | 192

Racism, distinguishing between ethnicity by appearance is possibly useful. But the US has used it to make Ukranian biolabs that target ethnicity. How do we get from pure distinction between.peoples and biolabs?
Because human beings have either been informed by trial and error that its best not to open certain doors, because catastrophic and unexpected results have a tendency to follow.
The US in its mow thankfully completed century has opened many forbidden doors and coveted up the catastrophic consequences. Hirishima and Nagasaki . Fukushima. Dumping poisons and plastics in the oceans.
Whar China bravely asserts is that there is no problem that is unaddressable, undiscussable, unresolvable. But the reality is that China itself suffers from the cultural brainwashing of Communism that denies the existence of God, just as the Neocons deny the manifestations of God’s prophets peace be upon them all.
China really needs to get the grain of sawdust out of its own eye before moving planks in Ukraine. Now that would be a useful discussion. Zelenky could make a start by encouraging them to worship Thor and Woden as an hors d’oevre. Moving on with Biden telling them his military success is through Jesus and Saudis explaining that they should lock up their wise old men in disgusting prisons.

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 25 2023 8:45 utc | 193

In many ways: USA: Laurel EU: Hardy.
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2023 0:57 utc | 156
I’d characterize the US and the EU as Frick and Frack.
And they’re skating on thin ice.
Now Blinken, he’s doing the work of two men, Laurel & Hardy.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Feb 25 2023 9:53 utc | 194

The West is run by incompetent, corrupt, creatures of nepotism who hate their own populations. That is extremely unstable and they are vulnerable to a revolution that puts their heads on walls.

Posted by: kassandra | Feb 25 2023 10:24 utc | 195

Is this guy stupid, evil or both?
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/34867
“ The people of the United States do not like it when big countries attack other states ,” said US Secretary of State Blinken.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 25 2023 12:08 utc | 196

b
On February 20 its foreign ministry released a paper about US Hegemony and Its Perils. It is full broadside against U.S. foreign policy behavior. Its chapter are:
Introduction
I. Political Hegemony—Throwing Its Weight Around
II. Military Hegemony—Wanton Use of Force 
III. Economic Hegemony—Looting and Exploitation
IV. Technological Hegemony—Monopoly and Suppression
V. Cultural Hegemony—Spreading False Narratives
Conclusion
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They should’ve added…
VI
FF state terrorism.
VII
Bio/geoengineering terrorism
VIII
IN particular,
Covert/overt wars on Chinese since the days of ENA.. [1]
[1]
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/12/open-not-ukraine-thread-2022-233.html
comment [71]
Garden war on China.
updated to 12/2022

Posted by: denk | Feb 25 2023 12:45 utc | 197

Yesterday the United Nations General Assembly voted on a resolution that demands that Russia leave Ukraine.

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garden rats have been monopolising UN platform to bludgeon the rest of world.[the jungle]
Why’d Russia/China leave the entire field to the garden?
Two can play at this game.
Russia/China/Iran push for UN inquisition/resolution on garden [anglo/euro clique] depravations.

252 unprovoked aggression since ww2.
30M civilians killed
40M displaced

chief American prosecutor,
Robert Jackson
Nuremburg trial

a war of aggression “is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.”
the tribunals would certainly be a farce if the United States failed to apply the Nuremberg standards to itself in the future.

https://www.countercurrents.org/kantar300408.htm

Posted by: denk | Feb 25 2023 13:14 utc | 198

Posted by: d dan | Feb 25 2023 5:23 utc | 180
——————
Years ago I told that anton troll…

Be careful what u wish for, the day China is kaput the garden would come for India, they’d suddenly discover Kashmir or the Nagas….

whaddayaknow ?
FFW 2023
China still standing and yet…
WARstreet did Adani
Perfidious albion BBc suddenly discover Gujarag
SORO wanna regime change democratic India
OMFG
The stench of garden rats is really suffocating !

Posted by: denk | Feb 25 2023 13:33 utc | 199

@Deplorable Commissar | Feb 25 2023 3:28 utc | 174
Why do you imagine that overpopulation* is beneficial? Particularly as the number of man hours per unit of production collapses, meaning that the limits to economic growth are no longer dependent on the number of people but upon available energy, resources and environmental health. This means that possible median wealth increases as population size declines.
*Overpopulation occurs when a population or populations exceed the carrying capacity of their environment. This can be detected by the degradation to the environment reducing the carrying capacity of the environment. This is definitional, “Carrying Capacity: the number of people, other living organisms, or crops that a region can support without environmental degradation.”

Posted by: Hermit | Feb 25 2023 14:26 utc | 200