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February 25, 2023
Ukraine – Those Guns Unknown To Me

Over the last months I read each Daily Report on the war in Ukraine by the Russian Ministry of Defense.

The reports list the losses of the Ukrainian side on each of the major fronts. I was especially interested in the dedicated counter-artillery campaign the Russian's have been waging during the last two months.

They numbers in the Russian reports may be wrong or exaggerated but they are in a range that is plausible for such a high intensity operation.


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The average daily Ukrainian losses are 12 major artillery pieces, one artillery radar and 3 to 4 artillery ammunition points or depots. The Ukrainian losses of men are listed at around 400+ per day. (The reports exclude the Wagner operations in Bakhmut/Artyomovsk.)

For the one month I recorded 214 destroyed truck pulled howitzers, 92 destroyed self-propelled howitzers and 56 destroyed Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (MLRS). About 12,000 Ukrainian troops were also reported to have been killed.

For comparison the artillery 'fist' of a NATO tank or motorized infantry division is its artillery brigade. It consists of 3 fire battalions each of which has 3 fire companies each of which has 6 guns or MLRS. That is a total of 52 major artillery pieces.

Losing a total of 362 major artillery pieces as Ukraine has done in a month is a lot, much more than the 'west' is able to replace. The current lack of ammunition that Ukraine claims to have will soon change into an oversupply simply because Ukraine will lack the guns and MLRS to fire it.

But that isn't the focus of this piece.

I have wondered about some howitzer/gun types the reports mentioned as destroyed. I had never heard of those and had to look them up.

What is for example the M101 truck pulled howitzer?

After World War I, the U.S. Army Ordnance Department studied various captured German 105 mm-caliber howitzers and developed the 105 mm Howitzer M1920 on Carriage M1920.

A modified version of the M1 was trialed in 1932 which used semi-fixed ammunition instead of separate-loading ammunition.

The original M1 carriage had been designed for towing using horses rather than trucks, and a new carriage, the T5 (M2), was developed in 1939 and standardized in February 1940.

The U.S. military artillery designation system was changed in 1962, redesignating the M2A1 howitzer the M101A1.

So the M101, pictured below, is a U.S. copy of a German army howitzer design from World War I. Some 10,000 have been build mostly during World War II.


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The ones Ukraine has, and the two Russia claimed to have destroyed, were gifts from the Lithuanian army reserve.

The D-44 anti-tank gun was also unknown to me:

The 85-mm divisional gun D-44 (Russian: 85-мм дивизионная пушка Д-44) was a Soviet divisional 85-mm calibre field artillery gun used in the last action of World War II.

The barrel was developed from that of the T-34-85 tank and was capable of firing 20–25 high-explosive (HE), armor-piercing, and high-explosive antitank (HEAT) projectiles per minute.


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A nice little museum piece.

There is also the Rapira anti tank gun which turns out to be a bit more modern:

2A19 or T-12 is a Soviet-designed 100-mm anti-tank gun. It was the first anti-tank gun to adopt a smoothbore barrel, and to introduce modern armor piercing shot, like the APFSDS. It uses long projectiles that are more powerful than its caliber suggests.

In 1971 a new variant was introduced, T-12A or MT-12 "Rapira" (2A29). This has the same barrel, but has a redesigned carriage and gun shield.

By the mid-1990s modern western tanks' frontal armor protection could no longer be penetrated by a 100 mm gun. The 100 mm caliber ammunition had reached the limits of what could be achieved with it.


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It is sad to see that the Ukrainian army has to use such museum pieces. Yes, they still may be useful in special cases. Also having such guns is probably better than having no gun at all.

But they have no chance to survive or even win on a more recent battle field.

Comments

karlof1@196/peter (if you are about) & all others.. i’ve suggested amarynth’s new site several times bt i’m sure much too late, when you’ve been through for the day.
amarynth posts everything from michael hudson & radhika, to ben norton, pepe, russian speeches of the day, chinese speeches, the gsi, the peace paper. traffic is still small but will grow. it’s focus is the global south. enjoy. globalsouth.co

Posted by: emersonreturn | Feb 26 2023 1:41 utc | 201

Posted by: emersonreturn | Feb 26 2023 1:41 utc | 204
Bookmarked the link. Thanks.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 26 2023 1:49 utc | 202

@203 Irish
Lol! Thx.
That’s a lot of western elite-groomed deplorable-haters.
You know, I have to smile when I think of all the cosmopolitan urbanites who sent their children off to rich colleges to do Mock-U.N. and pretend that they cared about truth and justice.
The chickens are coming home to roost and there will be catharsis. The trick is not to bathe in it like it was rosewater and honey. I will have to bite my tongue till I shear it off so not to appear to gloat.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Feb 26 2023 2:07 utc | 203

Richard Steven Hack | Feb 26 2023 1:11 utc | 200
Substack is where all the kool kids are heading…
Hersh didn’t bother with anything corporate media, didn’t bother with “alternative” media.. went straight to substack and self published.
(And the corporate media think they can ignore, erroneously thinking no one saw it, because it didn’t appear with a byline in a “masthead”.)
Greenwald [yes,yes, eyeroll] is there.. Among so many others… luminaries and mere loonies.
So far (so far) it’s unpoliced, non-cancellable…. You organically grow your own audience…
As per my post _ Feb 25 2023 23:31 utc | 180
Where I observe the slow, but swelling, dissatisfaction with the airtight echo chamber enforced by the corporate media…. the numbers of those now restive, and resistent to the enforced narrative are daily multiplying.
Even self-described so-called “journalists” are themselves bucking and buckling under the suffocating control and censorship.
The loss of audience is finally landing mortal blows on the corporate media.
Their “rightful” audience has dissipated. Tubbytubers with 100k subscribers here, twitz (now sprung from twitmo by Musk) with a million followers there, and hundreds of substackers, many with paying and dedicated subscribers…
Journalists who thought they “owned” the information space, and could control the message and control who was allowed to speak, are now finding they have to go to the market directly and compete with anyone with a computer and the time/commitment to create content and manage a site.
I remember a NYT “journalist” last year, outraged that @WallStreetSilv twitter had 360k followers.
“Who are you? The self important and imperious NYT scribe howled.
“You are nobody”. “How can you have 360k followers?” The journo having perhaps 10% of that….
The next week the NYT announced another round of layoffs, and I’d like to think that butthurt scribbler, with serious subscriber-envy, was among those whose “service” was no longer required.
How is this relevant to Ukraine?
Like an avalanche.. the edifice of narrative control is subsiding. The crack and crash is going to be monumental. It will be interesting to see which corporate media survive.
All will lose the final vestiges of credibility.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 26 2023 2:16 utc | 204

Posted by: emersonreturn | Feb 26 2023 1:41 utc | 204
Bookmarked the link. Thanks.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 26 2023 1:49 utc | 205
and the link is? bing didn’t produce from a ‘amarynth, website’ search.
thanks in advance.

Posted by: HOBO 3 | Feb 26 2023 2:18 utc | 205

richardstevenhack. thank you. i trust you are feeling better.
hobo3@209. simply type: globalsouth.co
it will appear. amarynth you may know from the saker. she was/is an amazing light in this fog of war & insanity.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Feb 26 2023 2:31 utc | 206

Posted by: HOBO 3 | Feb 26 2023 2:18 utc | 209
https://globalsouth.co/

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 26 2023 2:33 utc | 207

I have never understood Portugal’s membership.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 25 2023 21:46 utc | 142
Azores and Madeira islands at the North Atlantic, that’s why.

Posted by: C Khosta y Alzamendi | Feb 26 2023 2:39 utc | 208

RSH @200–
Substack seems more blog-like versus VK which was to be Russia’s version of Facebook but without the censorship and porn. Substack invites me to write almost as a profession, which isn’t my aim. So, I’ll likely continue at VK for at least another year.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2023 2:39 utc | 209

Rumor has it that Pierre Arrogant Trudeau was cucked by none other than Fidel. Seems like Mrs. Trudeau was somewhat akin to a wine taster…but with nowhere to spit it out from that type of coupling.
Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 25 2023 22:29 utc | 155

That meme was amusing for a while, but has grown stale. Lots of good reasons to mock the Trudeaus without making shit up.
The timing does not align, this is from one of Canada’s few conservative news outlets.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/why-fidel-castro-is-not-justin-trudeaus-dad-even-though-he-really-really-looks-like-him

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 26 2023 2:41 utc | 210

@ Irish | Feb 26 2023 1:36 utc | 203 with the twit about OSCE meeting today and US participants behavior….thanks
It almost looks like they stacked the meeting so the leaving would look more dramatic….what did they pay the extras?….thirty pieces of silver…
The shit show continues until it doesn’t and IMO, China putting out the peace proposal has taken the world leadership mantle away from the US/West. This is the Cold War mentality that China insists must end as b focused on in Hegemony thread posting.
I see China/Russia as the Good Cop/Bad Cop center of the “not empire” axis. Russia is executing the demilitarization of NATO on the Bad Cop side and now China/Good Cop has positioned itself as the arbitrator of peace between the Bad Cop and Empire.
And all the while, few including me talk about the existential public/private finance nature of this conflict…..how is that barbaric private finance society working out for all us Western folks at the bottom of the top/bottom structure?
The shit show continues until it doesn’t and then the real fun starts…./s…see my Open Thread latest comment

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 26 2023 2:45 utc | 211

karlof1 | Feb 25 2023 23:58 utc | 190
I read Dugin’s paper and, in addition to your observations, I have found no mention of economic effects of the Ukraine war on the countries in Europe and even on USA itself. The funds, the military expenditures siphoned off from their national budgets are noticed by citizenry as their own infrastructure is in shambles, without war visiting them. The horrible state of railroads in USA (latest derailing in Ohio – with massive chemical spillage), the homelessness etc. – are questioned as lack of government’s attention to basic needs of population. The lies and omissions of truth in the media are also getting more noticeable, the latest opinion poll by Pew Research Center shows that there is very significant drop in the support for Ukraine war.
Dugin should have – in my layman’s opinion – devote a few sentences to the disastrous economic consequences for the West, with all socio-political aftershocks which are beginning to show.

Posted by: fanto | Feb 26 2023 2:47 utc | 212

Opport Knocks@214…one must understand the meaning of cucked, like when one’s wife leaves, with the kids, takes up with a well known Hollywood actor, then returns home after a year of the real thing….
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 26 2023 2:56 utc | 213

@214 OPie
Yeah…no, that article blows. He’s Castro’s kid for sure!!

Posted by: safe | Feb 26 2023 3:06 utc | 214

one must understand the meaning of cucked…
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 26 2023 2:56 utc | 217

Yes, English is my first language. There is no doubt that both of the Trudeaus slept around toward the end of their marriage. But for the “Castro is Justin’s daddy” meme to be true, Castro would have had to impregnate Margaret in the first 6 weeks of their marriage.
MoA would be a better place if this sort of gossipy trash was kept out.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 26 2023 3:15 utc | 215

thank you, psychohistorian for the link to ellen brown. thank you also for your brilliant observation on china, agreed, its offering the world the dove of peace usurps empire’s mantle of world leadership. you have absolutely nailed it.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Feb 26 2023 3:31 utc | 216

bemildered@211. i am indebted, thank you.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Feb 26 2023 3:33 utc | 217

Latest from Rolo:
“Twenty-six 2 week periods ago, the Russian Federation launched a surprise military operation, surprising the world, and most importantly, the top Kremlin functionaries as well. It was an auspicious and a hopeful time for the Russia internet expert community. Careers were built in those early days as the world tuned in to hear the truth, censored in the West, and now only available on true “darkweb” truth-bunkers like Patreon, Twitter and Facebook. In just three short days, the entire Ukrainian Nazi expeditionary force was eliminated, having put up no resistance whatsoever. By the end of the first two weeks, Russia had already achieved all of its stated objectives. However, a few weeks later, a new NATO army was airdropped around Kiev and Sumy and Chernigov and Kharkov, allowing Russia to pull back and adopt a new, ground-breaking military strategy going forward.
Now the West had done it. They had finally given the Russian bear the poke that it needed.
Russia allowed the West to fall right in its cleverly and carefully planned trap in the very beginning of the war by allowing Russian assets to be confiscated, and by not informing anyone except a select few insider “small hat” Russian patriots like Roman Abramovich that a SMO was even being planned. While Roman moved his money, as per plan, the West took the bait and stole billions upon billions of roubles from Russia, Russian businesses and, even private individuals in some cases, thereby handing the Kremlin a powerful moral victory in the war. Now the Third World knew which side was fighting for the good and the light. Millions of Africans and Arabs raised Russian flags and marched in their cities to signal their support for the “moral superpower” as many international experts had since taken to start calling Russia. Putin, the Humanitarian Czar, planned to use these moral victories to start trading with non-Western countries once the Western sanctions were imposed. Once again, Russia proved that they were simply better prepared than the West, and had baited themselves into sanctions so that they could sell more oil and gas to the Chinese for much cheaper prices, thereby securing another “moral judo flip” and also making heaps of money selling natural resources for less money than they would be getting on the market -a “moral harikiri” as it is referred to by all the top Russia experts.
But this strategy of “moral warfare” was just entering its open stages. NATOkranian army foolishly accepted Snake Island back from Russia, thereby handing Russia yet another moral victory and for grain shipments to flow to the grateful peoples of the Russia-loving world. Many military experts showed how small-minded they were by lambasting such a big-hearted gesture. They failed to understand that NATO and Kiev were playing 4D military checkers, while Russia had actually checkmated them several times in 5D moral chess. Instead of accepting their loss graciously, however, NATO and the West foolishly continued to push for more fighting even though they had already lost several times.
The Ukrainian army had already been defeated, the dollar had already been abandoned, and Russia had secured its position as leader of the free world. All this and we were only thirteen 2 week periods into the special military operation! What fresh wonders would the next thirteen 2 week periods bring? The sky was the limit and the internet experts began to brew fresh pots of tea boiled with the tears of NATO generals and sip it smugly while waiting for the leaves to settle so that the next blog post could be prepared.
We learned a great many things in the period that followed. That Russia was preparing a massive military offensive in September, then October, then November, New Year’s, January for sure, and, finally, on the one year anniversary of the start of the SMO.
During that time, Russia did not sit idly by and instead led the NATOkranian army into many well-prepared traps. They lured them into Kharkov by pretending to abandon it. Then, the enemy fell for the same trap again by moving into Kherson. In other words, Russia won two more moral victories and checkmated their opponents three more times in that period. But, again, because of their hubris, the West refused to realize that they had been beaten already and instead began to quietly mass new units for a fresh push in Zaporozhie.
We are now only two weeks away from the final checkmate of the NATOkrainian army.
This Not-War was won the minute that Vladimir Putin was born and the plan to checkmate the West jotted down in crayon at the nursery.”

Posted by: Longhorn | Feb 26 2023 3:57 utc | 218

Drinky Crow @194
If a reasonably attractive woman happened to be making goo-goo eyes at Fidel and he was in the process able to do a bit of cuckolding on the Prime Minister of Canuckistan; do you think we would not have gone for the double pleasure.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 26 2023 3:58 utc | 219

JohninMK @292
Recalling from my WWII readings years ago, one thing that stood out in my mind was that Russia employed mortars of at least 300 MM. They may still have some museum pieces, but doubtful whether any ammo is still around.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 26 2023 4:02 utc | 220

@ Deplorable Commissar, #112
The photo of the Wagnerites that are supposedly KIA in the two rows. I’ve seen more blood and twisted death poses after a successful deer hunting party. Did all those guys die from concussion trauma? I think that was a serious Psych Ops rendering, although I’m sure there are Wagner guys getting killed. Just don’t believe that photo…

Posted by: DakotaRog | Feb 26 2023 4:04 utc | 221

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2023 2:39 utc | 213
You don’t have to treat Substack as a “profession”. There’s nothing there forcing you to post in any frequency – look at the months between my posts. 🙂
But if one of your posts “goes viral”, you could get a thousand subscribers in a short time. Also, the Substack community itself generates subscribers, at least Substack says so.
I have to say, before you and Pepe Escobar, I’d never heard of VK. I got an account there only to read Pepe’s stuff initially when he was banned from various other sites. I suspect very few people in the US have. But everyone has heard about Substack. So if you want “reach” for your articles, going on Substack will get it, depending on your ability to use social media to drive people to your posts.
But of course, if you don’t want to take the time to do promotion – which I understand, since I suck at it myself – you can always just post the same stuff you post on VK to Substack and provide a link in your VK post and vice versa. Wouldn’t cost you anything but a few minutes of time. People who search Substack for related stuff would find you there faster than on VK.
Think about it.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 26 2023 4:07 utc | 222

Opport Knocks @214
So is the National Post “conservative” like the Heritage Foundation or the late Wm. F. Buckley?

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 26 2023 4:20 utc | 223

It is sad to see that the Ukrainian army has to use such museum pieces. Yes, they still may be useful in special cases. Also having such guns is probably better than having no gun at all.
But they have no chance to survive or even win on a more recent battle field.
Posted by b on February 25, 2023 at 11:50 UTC
It is sad, yet, they do not collapse. The reason the Ukraine does not collapse is how its citizens remain united in their religious fervor to raise their right hands to the sky and shout Heil Hitler.
And Putin still thinks the Ukrainians, who view everyone east of the Dniepr as subhumans, can be reasoned with and deserve anything short of extermination.
Would Nazi terrorists setting off a nuke in Russia change matters? I am not sure.

Posted by: Kathemy | Feb 26 2023 4:30 utc | 224

@ Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 26 2023 4:20 utc | 227
I said “conservative” not fringe right. Meaning the newspaper’s ownership and columnists support the Conservative Party of Canada. They will never miss an opportunity to legitimately discredit Trudeau Sr. or Jr.
Do us all a favor and keep this garbage on Reddit or 4chan, people who find it entertaining can still read it there.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 26 2023 4:40 utc | 225

We are now only two weeks away from the final checkmate of the NATOkrainian army.
Posted by: Longhorn | Feb 26 2023 3:57 utc | 222
Really? I’ll hold you to that. Let’s revisit that comment come March 11.

Posted by: Kathemy | Feb 26 2023 4:41 utc | 226

Flavius (No.45) Thank you for posting the UN link. I don’t know what to think, hilarious, sad, pathetic, all of them, one after another. If these are the representatives of the world leaders it really doesn’t bode well. Not very quick witted.

Posted by: RZ | Feb 26 2023 4:45 utc | 227

My morbid fascination with BBC Radio’s World Service paid a small dividend this morning. The female host interviewed John Mearsheimer with aggressive scepticism. He believes that Russia’s SMO is fully justified by US/NATO’s expansionist and duplicitous conduct toward Russia. Mearsheimer is an excellent communicator and made his case with crystal clarity.
When that interview concluded she allowed a pro-NATO bloke from Finland to rebut Mearsheimer’s perspective. That interview was conducted with the same aggression and scepticism employed in the Mearsheimer interview using JM’s pov as ammunition. Mr Finland’s arguments quickly descended into Blinken/Biden style tropes and lies.
It made me wonder if BBC is turning a corner?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 26 2023 4:55 utc | 228

Mr Finland’s arguments quickly descended into Blinken/Biden style tropes and lies.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 26 2023 4:55 utc | 232
Did the interviewer call him on those lies?
Therein lies the answer to your question.

Posted by: Kathemy | Feb 26 2023 5:03 utc | 229

fanto @216–
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I failed to mention the paucity of geoeconomic discussion in his essay, although I certainly noticed it.
psychohistorian @215–
Question to ask your credit union: What’s your risk exposure to derivatives? I’m asking mine. The key is the vast majority of derivatives are denominated in dollars; so, if you’re outside the Dollarzone, you’re protected to a degree depending on your exposure to the Dollarzone and its financial sector. That’s why I began advocating Pesos as they’re very easy to acquire, while other foreign currencies can be obtained via main Bank of Mexico branches. Even so, people within the Dollarzone are going to be hit as our income and debts are all in dollars.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2023 5:14 utc | 230

RSH @226–
At VK, the audience is the RoW, as Substack could be too. Could do both. Think I shall.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2023 5:21 utc | 231

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ War Map and the Situation on the Fronts in the Evening of 25 Feb 2023; pub. 00:04⚡️
⚔️ Situation on the Fronts for the past Day
🔹#Svatovo – #Kremennaya Direction:
▪️ There were no serious changes during the day. Mutual shelling continues.
🔹#Artyomovsk (#Bakhmut) Direction:
➖ Wagner PMC fighters have fully liberated the village of #Yagodnoye.
➖ Also, the “orchestrators” continue their offensive near Dubovo-Vasilyevka and Orekhovo-Vasilyevka.
➖ There are positional battles in #Artyomovsk, our forces continue to entrench themselves on the outskirts of the city.
➖ There is also an advance in #Krasnoye, fighting is going on.
🔹#Donetsk Direction:
➖ The Russian army continues to fight in #Maryinka.
➖ Also, our army launched an offensive in the area of #Pervomayskoye, which affected the advance towards #Avdeyevka.
🔹#Zaporozhye Direction:
➖ Near #Ugledar, heavy fighting continues, our marines are holding back the militants, in parallel intensifying the onslaught.
➖ In addition, there are reports of artillery and aviation work, but not as usual, but in large calibre, which will allow to knock the AFU from the Nazis’ favourite fortifications – residential high-rise buildings.
💥 According to the Russian Ministry of Defence, the Russian Aerospace Forces shot down a Ukrainian Su-24 and a MiG-29 in the #Rozovka and #Dimitrov areas of the DPR. An enemy Su-25 was also shot down by air defence assets (at #Tyaginka #Kherson region).

https://t.me/sitreports/5016

Posted by: Down South | Feb 26 2023 5:21 utc | 232

👉👉👉 Especially for all the emotional souls who cursed the Ugledar offensive. 😉😉😉
Back from the “no-go zone” again and again I read from our military experts that the Ukrainians have driven us away from the northern dachas and are already attacking the southern ones (between Pavlovka and Nikolskoye). Even the respected Two Majors put such information in their bulletin of February 22. I report from the field – at the northern dachas the Ukrainians has no success, our forces managed to replace the assault groups, which for three weeks were fighting with the enemy for these houses, with fresher forces and the Ukrop continues to lose manpower and equipment in this area.
From what I can confirm for myself – yesterday two enemy tanks were burned, the day before yesterday a Baja, which was chased all day, was destroyed and three days ago another box of Ukrainians with a landing force, which dared to drive up to the cottages, was hit with a grenade launcher. In the western part of the southern dachas, the enemy’s resistance persists, the assault on these houses is daily, the sides suffer mutual losses, but there is progress. Funny people in Telegram keep posting incomprehensible videos, where any hit equipment is signed as 155th Guards, and intimidated captives read the text under dictation that the entire brigade has been destroyed 6 times, and the Ukrainians cannot go to the dachas because they are afraid of ghosts (apparently).
Recently I was able to talk to the storm troopers who stormed the northern dachas on January 24 and fought for three weeks under the threat of being surrounded. The guys were heroes, they repulsed 6 counterattacks, drew fire on themselves and in principle all agree that the hardest period of the assault was from January 25 to February 1, after that the Ukrainians, washed with blood, slowed down in this area. In principle, this is also confirmed by the radio intercepts, where we can ascertain from the ear of the as a decrease in the fighting spirit and an increase of complaints about the difficult situation for two weeks now.
I will try in the nearest time to tell about the feat of storm troopers at the northern dachas, but meanwhile as an announcement the photo of the AFU T-64 which was hit by marines-assault rifles and dared to roll right up to the northern dachas. The next day the vehicle was set on fire with a grenade tossed inside, as it was too dangerous to tow it and take it out of the way.

https://t.me/sitreports/5020

Posted by: Down South | Feb 26 2023 5:23 utc | 233

Posted by: aquadraht | Feb 25 2023 22:52 utc | 164
yay for the turnout and for you being there!!!!!!!! thank you.

Posted by: polarbear4 | Feb 26 2023 5:31 utc | 234

That’s why I began advocating Pesos as they’re very easy to acquire, while other foreign currencies can be obtained via main Bank of Mexico branches. Even so, people within the Dollarzone are going to be hit as our income and debts are all in dollars.
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2023 5:14 utc | 234
Everywhere I go in Mexico I see international BIS network banks. Presumably National Bank of Mexico is also on their network given only Iran, North Korea, Venezuela and Cuba are not (!). HSBC’s everywhere. Santander. Even Bank of Nova Scotia (albeit mainly in tourist towns); they are the oldest bank in North America – set up by the Rothschilds of course.
I hope you are right about pesos but since AMLO has put in motion a CBDC study with testing period, I suspect that Mexico’s currency and transaction services will fall in line with new digital world order along with US, Russia, China, Iran, Ukraine, UK, Germany, France, Italy, India, Malaysia, Australia, NZ, Canada, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Switzerland, Greece, Israel, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Chile, Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, South Africa and… well, you get the picture.
On old maps depicting physical terrain it may well be a multipolar world that’s coming but on computer screens, the only real estate which truly matters in this emerging AI-run digital age, it will be a one-world system of algorithms (replacing laws) in cyberspace.
Welcome to our wonderful new world of keystricken materialism.

Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 26 2023 5:32 utc | 236

Something new up? Elon Musk on many sites talking about how to end the Ukraine Conflict.

Posted by: HelenB | Feb 26 2023 5:37 utc | 237

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2023 5:14 utc | 234
Oh, look, it’s Mr. “Sun Yat-Sen invented Chinese Communism.”
How’s that going for you?

Posted by: Kathemy | Feb 26 2023 5:38 utc | 238

Trying to understand any legal document without first having the second part after the short title…. Section 2 usually classified as Interpretation…it will have the Acts or Statutes definitions. Common word definitions are irrelevant. There was footage of Wagner PMC personel lining up row after row of cadavers….they where repatriating dead Ukrainians…they where not dead Wagner. Some ass clown social media twisted the facts for their narrative

Posted by: Joe | Feb 26 2023 5:40 utc | 239

Something new up? Elon Musk on many sites talking about how to end the Ukraine Conflict.
Posted by: HelenB | Feb 26 2023 5:37 utc | 241
They’re feeling a little butt-hurt because, you know, they are losing, but don’t worry, the Nazi assholes in charge will save the day. Expect a year or two more of war.
However, of course… They are losing. It’s just a question of whether the whole planet will be irradiated or not first.

Posted by: Kathemy | Feb 26 2023 5:47 utc | 240

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2023 23:58 utc | 190
Thank you karlof for your comment. It saves me from replying to giyane whose brain was on fire after encountering the name Dugin. I don’t know much about Dugin but calling him Atlanticist is ridiculous.
I think his thesis in this essay that Russia as a society and a military was unprepared for war when it started the SMO is valid. The intellectual elites were enamored with the west. Big parts of the Russian society were quite comfortable and not ready for war. His observation that due to intense propaganda in Ukraine, big parts of formerly sympathetic to Russia Ukrainian people turned against it is I believe also true. How else would you explain pretty good performance of the Ukrainian army?
Maybe Putin after Feb 4 statement with Xi Jiping was ready for more but the nation was not.

Posted by: RB | Feb 26 2023 6:18 utc | 241

It made me wonder if BBC is turning a corner?
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 26 2023 4:55 utc | 232

Not possible, War Party Media is only trying to limit the infiuence of the Peace Party.

Posted by: Exile | Feb 26 2023 6:22 utc | 242

@ Melaleuca 185
Thanks for your reply. ” I didn’t get where I am today ” , near bankrupt pensioner , by hob- nobbing with the likes of Blinken. In fact, I have been commenting on Craig Murray’s blog for 17 years with great admiration for his Liberal truth-seeking but it seems that the neocons are deliberately targeting the Liberal dream of Europe by financing war in Ukraine. Craig is an architect of that Liberal dream , and maybe Dugin is too. The neocons have decided Sides have to be taken.
Unfortunately, for me, the neocons have lost their credibility by their previous use of Al Qaida and then Islamic State as proxies to conquer new oil colonies that international law forbids them to attack.
In Ukraine the religious perversion is different and the colonial reward is different, but the smokescreen of lies is exactly the same. There are many Muslims who still believe the neocon lie that Al Qaida and Islamic State are fighting for Islam , because their neocon-paid mullahs still shill for the neocons.
But in Ukraine the shillers for the neocons, the priests of Liberalism, are stretching the imagination by claiming that breaking the relationship between Europe and Russia is helping Liberalism, by using Nazis.
The dafties looking at a trashed Somalia, Libya and Syria and now Ukraine and Germany, must surely have to abandon the neocon PR sweet talk about Liberalism and Islam eventually. Or become pillars of Lot’s wife Liberal salt in Europe, or sold as sex-slaves to the jihadists in North Africa.
Their choice, not mine. I am extremely opposed to any form of extremism.

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 26 2023 6:22 utc | 243

Their choice, not mine. I am extremely opposed to any form of extremism.
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 26 2023 6:22 utc | 247
Yay! Yet anyone who doubts the Bearded Man In The Sky is brainwashed, and no, that’s not “extremism.”

Posted by: Kathemy | Feb 26 2023 6:28 utc | 244


Did the interviewer call him on those lies?
Therein lies the answer to your question.
Posted by: Kathemy | Feb 26 2023 5:03 utc | 233

I covered that in my #232 with:
“…using JM’s pov as ammunition.”
Sorry if it was too cryptic for you. It means “…using John Mearsheimer’s point of view as ammunition” (in framing her questions).
The reason her approach impressed me is that it proved she’d been paying attention during her JM interview AND had assimilated the crux of his thesis.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 26 2023 6:37 utc | 245

After 10 rounds of sanctions ………

😄 The French were surprised by the life of the Russians after a year of special operation
Russia has not been affected by the effects of Western sanctions as it has rebuilt the economy. And the residents, in turn, for the year almost did not notice the changes. This opinion was expressed by a columnist for the French news magazine Valeurs Actuelles.
📝 “ In Moscow, everything is as usual. Shops are well stocked, restaurants and nightclubs are full. iPhones have reappeared, albeit at exorbitant prices ,” writes Raffre, who has lived in Moscow for twenty years.
He noted that Russia was able to stabilize the ruble and avoid a catastrophe in the industrial sector.
✅ The French observer added that the Russian Federation has reduced losses due to cooperation with China.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/35078

Posted by: Down South | Feb 26 2023 6:42 utc | 246

I was at the demo in Berlin, and the 13,000 are ridiculous. People stood crammed…
Posted by: aquadraht | Feb 25 2023 22:52 utc | 164
I believe you. In todays’ Germany, a German who does not toe the line about the war in Ukraine gets condemned to a fine of $2100 or 40 days prison.
Censorship has been largely automated. Posting a message that goes against the official view in a German newspaper is an exercise in futility.
There is an advertising industry that checks whether people are watching the ads. “we use … data from millions of smart TVs and cable/satellite set-top boxes to capture what content, network or station people are watching.” (Nielsen). Applied to war, this allows fine-tuning propaganda for maximum acceptance.
Today’s technology allows giving each person individualized propaganda in the form of custom search results and custom news feeds. And when someone swipes or clicks, there’s instant feedback, so you know whether your propaganda message got through.
Propaganda works much better now.

Posted by: Passerby | Feb 26 2023 6:46 utc | 247

At the OSCE meeting, Western diplomats left the moment the Russian delegation arrived.
This is the level of Western diplomacy — childish, arrogant, and unwilling to even listen to an opposing viewpoint.
Posted by: Irish | Feb 26 2023 1:36 utc | 203
They left out of shame, no doubt. When cannons roar, diplomats have utterly failed. As has NATO, who spend a whopping 1.5 trillion dollars every year, five times the military budgets of Russia and China combined, to build an ay so powerful that no other country dares to even think military attack. In theory.
So, combine a braindead NATO (E.Macron) which Kindergarten-Level Diplomats – and WW III is pretty much inevitable.
One can argue who started the war. The fact that the ladies in Gentlemen featured in the video linked by Irish failed to prevent it it obvious.
Despite, that’s the icing on the cake, being OECD, the very organization who got their, independent information on the Massakers their protegees conducted since 2014 in the Donbass.
I’d run away, too, if I was responsible for that, and a camera showed up.

Posted by: Marvin | Feb 26 2023 6:51 utc | 248

War of the Worlds – Ep 25
https://tntradiolive.podbean.com/e/war-of-the-worlds-25-february-2023/
Eliason and Helmer: a view from the Donbass etc.
‘Can you imagine a war starting in your town and you approved..?’

Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 26 2023 6:51 utc | 249

Sorry if it was too cryptic for you. It means “…using John Mearsheimer’s point of view as ammunition” (in framing her questions).
The reason her approach impressed me is that it proved she’d been paying attention during her JM interview AND had assimilated the crux of his thesis.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 26 2023 6:37 utc | 251
I understood what you meant, but you didn’t answer my question. Did the interviewer call him on his lies?
That’s the answer to your question. Is she merely playing devil’s advocate or is she actively dismantling him.

Posted by: Kathemy | Feb 26 2023 6:53 utc | 250

The cookie crumbles..
The national divorce has begun donsurber.substack.com

Posted by: Hutch | Feb 26 2023 7:26 utc | 251

@ 232 Hoarsewhisperer
Yes, Britain is in a financial crisis created by the US neocons and we have a financial expert in charge who understands the catastrophic consequences of pursuing this ideological war against Russia.
That doesn’t mean Nato is split, it means Nato is starting in unison to turn against the Neocons, because all the Nato countries have exactly the same financial problems.
I agree with Richard Steven Hack that Russia doesn’t have to find a law that wasn’t ever envisaged, a law against the US sponsoring Islamist terrorists and Nazis because these are obviously war crimes.
Russia is doing the right thing in Ukraine and the US is being forced to remove the neocon hijackers to save the plane.

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 26 2023 7:34 utc | 252

To give an impression: https://i.imgur.com/qsdoQXe.png This is the area where people stood in dense crowd, approximately. The area north of the Strasse des 17 Juni was blocked by the police, the southern area of Grosser Tiergarten (a park area mainly south of that road) was full of participants.
I think that 50k ppl is a sane estimate, I would not argue about +-5k. The 13k of the police is ridiculous. The Bandera demonstration a day before was hyped to “at least 10 thousand” though it covered an area of about 150m east of Brandenburger Tor, in loose walking. Would that have been true, the peace demo would have had 100k participants 🙂 but the mainstream media faithfully regurgitated the nonsense.
Posted by: aquadraht | Feb 25 2023 22:52 utc | 164

Thank you, let’s pray that the Peace Movement grows

Posted by: Exile | Feb 26 2023 7:36 utc | 253

Kathemy @ #256.
You seem to be hair-splitting.
She didn’t “dismantle” JM or Mr Finland.
She used US/NATO conventional wisdom to dispute JM’s claims and she used the crux of JM’s thesis to dispute Mr Finland’s rejection of it.
——-
My only disappointment is that Mearsheimer failed to mention the Uke shelling of Donetzk and Lugansk.
My Inner Optimist assumes that JM has not yet fine-tuned the phrases necessary to broach the subject of Donetzk and Lugansk shelling, with the tenderness of phrasing employed in W & M’s The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy. That phrasing put the W & M Lobby thesis beyond the reach of EFFECTIVE critics.
Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 26 2023 7:36 utc | 254

The Wagner Orchestra announces having destroyed the first Leopard. A photo in the orchestra’s Telegram channel is far from conclusive though.

Posted by: Catilina | Feb 26 2023 7:38 utc | 255

“Among other things, the United States has banned the supply of smartphones over $300 to Belarus and Russia.”
What is the point of allowing Russia and Belarus to buy phones less than $300? Why not just sanction phones?

Posted by: Simon | Feb 26 2023 7:40 utc | 256

Posted by: Dingo | Feb 26 2023 7:06 utc | 257
Yes. In todays’ Europe, it’s better not to state your political views at work. In todays’ Europe, it’s better not to say you occasionally browse Russian or Chinese news sites. The East Germans have seen it all before; now it’s our turn.

Posted by: Passerby | Feb 26 2023 7:55 utc | 257

AFU received a large batch of expired ammunition
As part of the next package of military assistance to Kiev, some military units received cartridges and ammunition unsuitable for operation. More than half of them were covered with corrosion.
“This rusty iron cannot be used for its intended purpose,” Colonel Yuri Madyar, commander of the 28th separate mechanized brigade, told reporters.
It turned out that this is not an isolated case. Similar deliveries have already been carried out before. In 2021, Lithuania transferred rusty ammunition unsuitable for firing to Ukraine as part of military-technical cooperation. Then it led to a serious check in the Armed Forces of Ukraine to identify the scale of the “Lithuanian sabotage”.
Similarly, many NATO countries are trying to preserve ammunition stocks that have significantly dried up over the past year. Poland, Lithuania and Latvia, sending to Ukraine long overdue weapons that have remained in the arsenals since Soviet times, receive new ones in return and at very attractive prices.
This practice also allows you to save on the disposal of unusable ammunition.
@ukr_leaks_eng
https://t.me/ukr_leaks_eng/1573

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 26 2023 9:18 utc | 258

Reportedly Kievans breached a dam near Bakhmut
https://t.me/dvesti22/22861
AFU fleeing Bakhmut?
https://t.me/Republic_Of_GaGauZia/29249
In Berlin Germans blunted Kievans PR offensive
https://t.me/dvesti22/22863

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 26 2023 9:22 utc | 259

ARCHANGEL SPECIAL FORCES Z🇷🇺
“At night, there were explosions in Mariupol and other rear cities, where missiles had not reached before. We can safely say that the APU began to use GLSDB.
The calculations of the “Shells” now need to be very, very attentive and quick to make decisions.”

Posted by: nathan in WA US | Feb 26 2023 9:23 utc | 260

Ukraine must have gotten the thumbs-down from US/NATO regarding the Cobasna ammo raid. Russia considers Transnistria its own, so a raid would be interpreted as an act of war. Too bad, would have loved to see the AFU try to navigate the surrounding minefields.
https://twitter.com/CheburekiMan/status/1629650348905463808
So they got “thumbs down”. The practical effect was that they moved forces from Donbass to Transnistria for nothing, meaning that they were weaker in Donbass for a while. Yesterday there were rumors they started moving back.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 26 2023 9:31 utc | 261

@ unimperator | Feb 26 2023 9:31 utc | 270
According to “King of Romania,” the word got passed via MI6:
https://kingofromania.com/2023/02/23/the-sword-of-dumbassocles/
(He’s a wonderful writer, racy witty and pungent, with heart in the right place, but I wouldn’t let him treat a pimple.)

Posted by: John Kennard | Feb 26 2023 9:46 utc | 262

@Dingo | Feb 26 2023 7:35 utc | 260

As an aside this type of population thought control was implemented during the pandemic.
If you went agains the narrative you were a heretic. If you did not get the mRNA genetic shot, you might die or you are a risk of giving it to loved ones and they might die. That’s how that fear and silencing of other viewpoints was packaged &sold. The form & structure was there this censorship about the conflict is just a continuation. Like a one,two punch to free thought

Exactly so. Some of us understood that immediately in 2020. In hindsight it is crystal clear that those two events were part of a planned sequence. To avoid having to get acceptance for the war in Ukraine, thought control was needed. It was extremely successful, also among the free thinkers on this blog. Now we see the consequences.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 26 2023 9:51 utc | 263

The key is the vast majority of derivatives are denominated in dollars; so, if you’re outside the Dollarzone, you’re protected to a degree depending on your exposure to the Dollarzone and its financial sector. That’s why I began advocating Pesos as they’re very easy to acquire, while other foreign currencies can be obtained via main Bank of Mexico branches. Even so, people within the Dollarzone are going to be hit as our income and debts are all in dollars.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2023 5:14 utc | 234
Interesting choice of the Mexican peso (MXN). Its physical coins and notes sure beat those of the US dollar (e.g. color differentiation), but that’s another story.
These may be dumb questions, but based on the definition of ‘dollarzone’, is it limited to just countries with the USD as its currency (Ecuador, Panama, El Salvador, etc.), or are there other metrics that define it? Would Canada’s dollar (CAD) fall under that same umbrella or under a separate one?

Posted by: joey_n | Feb 26 2023 9:57 utc | 264

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 26 2023 4:55 utc | 232
When that interview concluded she allowed a pro-NATO bloke from Finland to rebut Mearsheimer’s perspective. That interview was conducted with the same aggression and scepticism employed in the Mearsheimer interview using JM’s pov as ammunition. Mr Finland’s arguments quickly descended into Blinken/Biden style tropes and lies.
It made me wonder if BBC is turning a corner?

The interview was repeated on the ABC News Radio this morning.
The presenter/Interviewer was Razia Iqbal. I agree she used the information gleamed from John Mearsheimer to grill Alexander Stubb’s assertions that NATO, and Russia’s neighbours, represented no threat to Russia. From her interview with JM, Razia Igbal was obviously not conversant with the real reasons Putin moved on Ukraine, e.g.quizing him on Putin’s desire to expand the Russian “Empire”.

Posted by: Menz | Feb 26 2023 10:06 utc | 265

Composed of various TG reports.
Russians are very close to the river in the middle of Bakhmut. Controlling east side of the river should enable to slice the city into isolated pockets.
Also there’s interesting news from Ugledar – there are “thousands” of American mercenaries in or around Ugledar. Most of the Ukraine defense seems to be actually not in, but outside, NE/N/NW of Ugledar, IIRC there was a hill just NE that they use for spotting.
UAF has transferred 5 battalions from Ugledar to Chasov yar (W of Bakhmut). Meanwhile there are some kind of probing attacks on Ugledar.
What does it mean? If Ugledar is under pressure and UAF is forced to transfer 5 battalions to Chasov yar, then everything is more or less tearing apart, as designed. We’ll see. It should correlate directly with the level of panic and absurd statements coming out of Washington.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 26 2023 10:19 utc | 266

#242
So are you inferring fascism is more palatable than communism?
Posted by: Dingo | Feb 26 2023 6:36 utc | 250
How the Hell did you arrive at that conclusion? Are you sure you’re not just a shill for little Karlof running scared?
I’m Marxist-Leninist. Trotskyites would call me Stalinist because I support Stalin but there is no Stalinism. Nobody would call me Maoist because Mao’s dialectics are a joke, even though I have the highest respect for the foreign policy theory of CPC mostly crafted by Zhou Enlai.

Posted by: Kathemy | Feb 26 2023 10:31 utc | 267

As an aside this type of population thought control was implemented during the pandemic.
If you went agains the narrative you were a heretic. If you did not get the mRNA genetic shot, you might die or you are a risk of giving it to loved ones and they might die. That’s how that fear and silencing of other viewpoints was packaged &sold. The form & structure was there this censorship about the conflict is just a continuation. Like a one,two punch to free thought
Posted by: Dingo | Feb 26 2023 7:35 utc | 260

You sure about that?
Because since mid-2021 the latest, and certainly after Omicron hit, the dominant narrative has been that COVID is no big deal, go out and live your life, stop wearing masks, pandemic over.
We had chief archglobalist WEF demon Bill Gates hailing Omicron as the virus that will be the vaccine we were all looking for, etc.
BTW, that was also the narrative before mid-March 2020 — famously, the NYC mayor was advising citizens to go out and eat at restaurants, drink, and be happy a week or two before shit really hit the fan there.
So how come the assumption is that they were lying in 2020 but were not lying in 2021, 2022, and 2023, when in general they lie about everything?
Please explain to us how that follows?
The truth is that they had zero desire to lock down (remember Boris Johnson’s “let the bodies pile in the thousands” remark?), it was forced on them by the gravity of the actual medical situation. Because it really threatened to cause such a catastrophe that it would undermine their power.
Remember what happened in NYC at less than a quarter of the population infected? What would have happened if everyone had gotten infected in March to May 2020 over the whole of the US? The only reason the situation was barely handled in NYC was that medical teams from all over the country went there to help. With no “lockdown”, full let-it-rip from the start, force infect kids by mandating that they keep going to school (and through the kids then infect everyone else), etc. policies, there would have been no such external help because every area that send help to NYC would have been its own disaster zone, and those disaster zones would have faced a crisis 3-4 times bigger than what NYC had to deal with (again, NYC was very, very far from saturation). The infection fatality rate in the beginning was 1.5% in the US. So we were looking at 3-4M dead easily from the initial wave alone, concentrated in the span a few a months.
That is absolutely catastrophic, and it would have create a huge crisis of confidence in the system. Because people would have realized they were deliberately led to slaughter. It’s hard to remember three years later, but people still cared about their health back then, and that sort of situation would have developed only under policy that openly force infected them.
Which is in fact precisely what a lot of voices in the business elite advocated (so much for the conspiracy to keep us locked down), but clearly it was decided that it was too risky to do it immediately, people had to be eased into it. So we had “lockdowns” (really, there was nothing of the sort ever in the US, only in China and in a few places in Europe) but not to elimination, only in order to stretch deaths over time and to normalize the situation.
Something that they greatly succeeded in achieving. The US still lost at least 1.3M people, but it was done slowly, not all at once, so people didn’t really notice it the same way as they would have if we had 3-4M dead in 2-3 months.
Which brings us back to the question of where the real conspiracy is — the evil plot here wasn’t to keep us “locked down”, but to normalize the uncontrolled transmission of a BSL3 pathogen and to undo two centuries of civilizational progress in the area of public health. We are looking at life becoming nasty, brutish and short for the masses once again, i.e. a return to Victorian England.
From the start it was known there will be no immunity to this virus (it is a coronavirus after all), that it causes lifelong health issues even when it does not kill, which accumulate and compound, and that people will get endlessly reinfected, and gradually (or not so gradually) deteriorate over time, leading to drastically shortened life expectancy and to much lower quality of life.
There was no alternative but harsh global lockdown to elimination if we wanted to preserve the privileged disease-free comfort of the second half of the 20th century. That could have been avoided if proper measures had been taken in January 2020 and a serious containment effort was launched when that would have succeed without population-scale measures, but that wasn’t done because of the “economy”.
Then we did not lock down properly because doing that would have meant paying people to stay home and not work. That was completely unacceptable to the oligarchic class that rules us, so here we are.
And that is the real conspiracy.
A testament to the reality of how much they control you is that the only violent action there ever was during the pandemic was against public health measures. Not for strict such measures, and not for a paid shut down.
When the truth was that by the end of 2020 the latest, if there had been widespread awareness of what is happening, every single person with a significant stake in the stock market and every politician in power should have found themselves as decapitated corpses in roadside ditches as a result of the global mass uprising against the genocidal policies they were ramming through.
But in the real world timeline that was never a serious possibility. Because even here, in the “alternative” web, the dominant narrative is that COVID was a scam. That is the level of mind control “they” have achieved…
P.S. Much of Russia’s “amazing” performance in the war was foreshadowed by its response to the pandemic. It also lost at least 1.3M people (that’s the excess mortality, exceeding the official count by several times), but with 40% of the US population, i.e. it did much much worse and nearly 1% of the population died. It did some half-measures early on, then gave up and let it rip. And that was done for the same reasons it was done elsewhere — the oligarchs in Russia didn’t want to pay the plebs to stay home. The job of the plebs is to generate surplus for the oligarchs, and if they are not doing that, well, then they are worthless biomass that can just die. Same mentality of the ruling class as in the West.
Now do you expect from people who let that happen to be fighting an existential war the same everything-for-the-front-everything-for-victory way Stalin was back in the days? Of course not, these are the same criminals and mass murderers that sacrificed 1.3M of their own people at the altar of the interests of the oligarch class, after they sacrificed both the country and several times that many people in the 1990s. BTW, Stalin would have never let COVID rip, he would have done Chinese style lockdowns, with the same (or even better) ruthless efficiency, and we know that because in the real world timeline it was during his rule that most serious infectious diseases were rooted out in the USSR, and prevention was established as the key principle of the healthcare system.
But the organizational mess was also very telling – modern Russia didn’t even really have a centralized response to COVID, most of it was left to the regions. Just as it was in the SMO, when the regions were left to equip the forces they were sending to the front on their own (how exactly are they supposed to do somethin that is clearly Shoigu’s job is still left unanswered). Which is a disastrous idea for a multiethnic country with a vast but sparsely populated land mass and a history of separatism. There are now multiple governors equipping private armies analogous to “Wagner” and in addition to what Kadyrov has long had, which may be sent to the front in Ukraine, but may be used for other purposes too. And the Kremlin is not doing anything to stop it even though the danger is obvious, quite the opposite — it set the policy of establishing military formations on a regional basis…

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 26 2023 10:38 utc | 268

PLZ-05 Type 83 SPH is an identical to Russian 2S19 Msta and currently getting removed from storage in China. Some unconfirmed info in regards to transfer to RU is started circulating around.

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Feb 26 2023 10:49 utc | 269

Also there’s interesting news from Ugledar – there are “thousands” of American mercenaries in or around Ugledar. Most of the Ukraine defense seems to be actually not in, but outside, NE/N/NW of Ugledar, IIRC there was a hill just NE that they use for spotting.
UAF has transferred 5 battalions from Ugledar to Chasov yar (W of Bakhmut). Meanwhile there are some kind of probing attacks on Ugledar.
What does it mean? If Ugledar is under pressure and UAF is forced to transfer 5 battalions to Chasov yar, then everything is more or less tearing apart, as designed. We’ll see. It should correlate directly with the level of panic and absurd statements coming out of Washington.
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 26 2023 10:19 utc | 275

Most likely UA moved those battalions because the Americans came and thus there is no decrease in their strength in Ugledar, it might even be the opposite — these aren’t “mercenaries”, we all know that.
Also, so far RU has not properly exploited any breakthrough in the lines. Even the famous Popasnaya “flower” only moved the front by a few miles. They never committed sufficient forces, and I am not holding my breath for it happening this time because that has not changed.
Because somehow several hundred thousand were mobilized but the fighting is still done primarily by Wagner and by relatively small regular forces around Ugledar, Kremennaya and Kupyansk. The bulk of the army is sitting on its hands somewhere doing god knows what. So there is no force to exploit breakthroughs.
Ukie lines did collapse around Soledar, and then everyone talked about how Seversk’s days are numbered, just as they talked about it back in July, but here we are a month and a half later, and what happened?
Don’t expect massive advances after Bakhmut falls either. Way too much time was provided for defensive lines to be set up behind it, and again, the overwhelming force to exploit the breakthrough isn’t there. It will be the same kind of slog for a very long time. If they get to Kramatorsk by the end of the year, that will be a “success”.
Bakhmut is playing the same role Mariupol did last year — hold the Russians there while the next Ukrainian army is assembled and can launch a counterattack against depleted Russian forces. Supposedly there is mobilization now so there should be no weak sections of the front, but the holding aspect of it is once again successfully executed.
RU was very dumb back then to spend so much time in Mariupol — it was fully encircled and cut off from the closest Ukrainian lines by tens of miles. It was going to fall sooner or later regardless. The priority should have been to push the front north as much as possible before the offensive potential is exhausted, but that wasn’t done.
Same kind of mess now — Wagner is banging its head against the most fortified position, meanwhile the Ukies are mining and fortifying everything along the border from Rovno to Kharkov, and RU isn’t doing much to exploit those still somewhat weak positions while there is time to do it…

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 26 2023 10:52 utc | 270

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 26 2023 10:38 utc | 278
“There was no alternative but harsh global lockdown to elimination if we wanted to preserve the privileged disease-free comfort of the second half of the 20th century.”
There was always an alternative.

Posted by: Verdant | Feb 26 2023 10:53 utc | 271

re Posted by: Simon | Feb 26 2023 7:40 utc | 264
who said:
“What is the point of allowing Russia and Belarus to buy phones less than $300? Why not just sanction phones?”
Use your head, what apple costs less than $300 new? none of em amerika wants to try and sanction apple phones, I guess because they struggle to crack them but that probably isn’t the actual reason just the superficial reason that amerika will ‘leak’ to doubters. What they are most likely attempting is another what they hope will be a ‘nail in China’s coffin’ by pressuring China who, AFAIK are the only nation which produces sub $300 phones, calling them out for assisting that outcast Russia and its puppet Belarus by still supplying them with phones, yeh, yeh we all know that isn’t breaching jackshit but in a year or two when amerika & its puppets try to use this as one of many reasons why China is also beyond the pale, most of the few currently aware of this will have forgotten, allowing amerika to claim “since we sanctioned phones going to Russia only China has ignored that sanction” (never-mind it was a solely western rule etc)
IOW it will be beaten up along with a laundry list of similar stupidities to claim that China has been acting against ‘the world’ by helping Russia, so that is why it is right to back, say Japan, in assisting Taiwan to ‘stay free’.
As we gave seen ad infinitum sanctions of themselves are pointless devices but they are used as part of the continual indoctrination to keep amerikans & hopefully the rest of the west believing that they are the ones wearing white hats as amerika murders, rapes & loots its way around the planet.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Feb 26 2023 11:00 utc | 272

PLZ-05 Type 83 SPH is an identical to Russian 2S19 Msta and currently getting removed from storage in China. Some unconfirmed info in regards to transfer to RU is started circulating around.
Posted by: Alex Vadim | Feb 26 2023 10:49 utc | 279

That’s actually a bad sign.
Why would RU need that? They are supposed to have over a thousand of these already.
Doesn’t make any sense. It is also not what is really needed.
China can help a lot with other things.
For example, their long-range heavy MLRS would help a lot. It’s still not clear why Belarus has not provided the Polonez-M, but presumably the Chinese have many more produced of their version of it, plus they can provide a lot of rockets for it, and that would indeed make a big difference.
Drones is the other area. China can presumably crank out tens and even hundreds of of thousands of Lancet-like loitering munitions in a short amount of time, which would pretty much end the war very quickly (though RU supposedly had plenty of technical means to do it on its own and it didn’t so who knows), and they have drone swarms, advanced attack UAVs, and many others, that RU doesn’t have because it neglected that area.
But more 2S19 Msta SPG? Why?
Either that will not fill any real need, or if that is a real need, then things are actually truly dire for RU in terms of materiel, and Western propaganda is correct…

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 26 2023 11:01 utc | 273

@Dingo | Feb 26 2023 10:21 utc | 276

People were traumatized on purpose
Made to feel off-balanced

Yes, disclosure of the truth is needed to cure this situation that remains.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 26 2023 11:06 utc | 274

Shadowbanned @ 278
Did I miss the most important bit or didn’t you say ?
Did the virus come out of a laboratory or not ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 26 2023 11:17 utc | 275

@ shadowbanned | Feb 26 2023 11:01 utc | 283
…AR1A were mentioned too, along PLZ-05. (152mm)
Type 83 SPH is the one that was built for 152 mm, to my knowledge.
…no idea

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Feb 26 2023 11:20 utc | 276

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Feb 26 2023 11:20 utc | 287
Someone can correct me on this, but a lot of Chinese artillery systems (even today) are essentially derived from Soviet systems, or copied and derived from Russian systems. Maybe they use same ammunition, have similar loading mechanics and other characteristics. Maybe this was true from beginnig in WW2 as well, with the 72mm guns and 81mm mortars they used, they received aircraft and artillery from USSR.
Really good site.
http://www.military-today.com/artillery.htm

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 26 2023 11:37 utc | 277

The Weeb Union chap has posted a new (12 hours old by now) video about the opreational and soon probably full encirclement of Bakhmut.
Wagner Operationally Encircles Bakhmut | 2.8km From Full Encirclement | Bakhmut Update 25/02/23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msCdfk2JZFM

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Feb 26 2023 11:44 utc | 278

I suspect many readers have found http://www.military-today.com/index.htm to be a useful resource for information on military equipment.
Posted by: Bima | Feb 25 2023 15:48 utc | 56

Interesting info about the vehicles, a somewhat suspect extra page on “Russian losses” in Ukraine (no Ukrainian losses extra page to be seen). Lots of photographs and info one can hardly verify, and it all ends in July, unless I am mistaken. Maybe the supplier got his draft …
Regarding the article, quite a lot of the material sent thus far is hardly modern stuff either. It kills, no doubt about that, and can sustain the rugged conditions of Ukraine and continuous warfare. Much of the western war equipment relies on high maintenance and hybrid warfare to work properly, and the Ukrainian neither have nor can provide either.

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Feb 26 2023 12:11 utc | 279

@ unimperator | Feb 26 2023 11:37 utc | 288
…logically 152 mm is a deal maker in terms of RU own guided munitions.

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Feb 26 2023 12:18 utc | 280

@ unimperator | Feb 26 2023 11:37 utc | 288
Imperial-fascist-Japan forced Axis ally Nazi Germany in 1938 to abandon military support to China(KMT/NRA), including arms, training etc. CPC(PLA) was backed by Soviet Union.
KMT/NRA called upon USA for arms/financing. Both NRA/PLA built limited industrial arsenals and significant, yet dispersed artisan level arsenals within secure(?) rear areas within China.
Hence post defeat of IJA PLA was supported in the Civil War from ’45-’49 again by USSR, NRA by US. PLA captured & burnt through huge stocks of (US) arms/ordnance from NRA (including post war ’50-’53 Korean War (general expenditure, also SF Sword Coys)).
Post Civilian War establishment, everything was derived from Soviet arms, with some exceptions, up till the Sino-Soviet split. Then PRC went it’s own way mostly serial knockoffs of past gen materiel. From ’80 onwards, yet especially post ’99, PRC/PLA has improved upon as well as developed it’s own unique arms, re unique needs/doctrine) yet generations(plural) massed accumulations at scale of arms/ordnance (going as far back as to the ’30’s) do not get dumped in only one generation.
In short, PLA has literally a veritable shit-ton of arms/ordnance essentially compatible/identical with current Theater RF arms/ordnance, as well as reserve war stocks going back to WWII (MGs/LMGs/AT-grenades/mortars/ammo/shells/etc), ie it’s own massive Soviet era/RF stores … on even larger scale. (See: Support/involvement/belligerent, French-Indochina, Korean, American(Vietnam) War, China-Vietnam, China-Cambodia … wars).
Hence, RF-PRC ‘could’ do the same as Empire, PLA supply previous gen arms & appropriate ordnance and replace said stocks with latest indigenous designs, fresh off the production line. Win-Win.
PS Bakhmut is now beyond saving, ’tis soon enough over. Re AFU, most capable forces should always be deployed to protect urban defensive positions flanks, less capable forces occupy the entrenchments/ruins. ALL urban defenses ultimately fall to envelopment, unless due political interference, High Command cares nothing for the lives of their troops or the excessive/unnecessary attrition of their forces(& insurmountable terrain features). See: AH, Stalingrad.

Posted by: Outraged | Feb 26 2023 12:23 utc | 281

#277
I could care less about your political philosophy,ideology.it doesn’t matter to me. If you live in the west you are living in a fascist environment, nothing more nothing less. Your comprehension is dull. Don’t be an ankle bitter. Over the internet anybody can be more than they are, understand.
Posted by: Dingo | Feb 26 2023 12:00 utc | 291
If you couldn’t care less about my political philosophy then why do you ask me whether I prefer Fascism over Communism, you stupid cunt.

Posted by: KathemE | Feb 26 2023 12:43 utc | 282

Well, if Ugledar is now populated primarily with mercenaries, all the more reason to just level it.
No need to protect the Ukrainian brothers anymore by fighting with one arm tied behind the back.
If some reports from up the thread are correct, this is already happening and a lot of US mercs are already dead.

Posted by: Chris | Feb 26 2023 13:05 utc | 283

@ RB 245
OK, my brain was on fire. That was because of the phoney CEO style of Dugin’s writing, explaining revolutionary new concepts like making the West take Russia’s security seriously in Westerm style academic/ Liberal Atlantacist terminology.
China has rebuilt itself from scratch. Russia has rebuilt itself from scratch, and many other nations have done the same like Malaysia which directly challenged the West’s MH 17 narrative. But here is a Russian who is defining his country in Western Liberal winner takes all hegemony.
I don’t see any revolutionary zeal for smacking the US NWO in the face and making a multipolar world. In contrast , many war boffins on MoA express frustration with Russian military slowness. That imho also misses the point. Russia and China totally oppose US style shock and awe shoot first ask questions later. They are trying to proceed with mindfulness of humanity to a different concept of the world.
The RoW 87% detests the West. Dugin appears to like the status quo of Liberal chaos.
New wine bottles for new wine. New linen clothes, or patch the old linen with old linen of similar weakness. Who is not on fire for a movement that will inshallah destroy the disgusting old priesthood of neo-liberal aggression that has dominated my whole 68 years ?

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 26 2023 13:15 utc | 284

Posted by: Chris | Feb 26 2023 13:05 utc | 299
Especially if the peony and tulip are working over the target, as the former fires a concrete bunker-buster and the latter the laser guided Smel’chak bomb, supposedly used to target the Azovstal plant.

Posted by: Milites | Feb 26 2023 13:22 utc | 285

#297
Deleted? They are going to be framed, and hung on a sunny wall.
As a reminder of high intellectual human discourse.
Posted by: Dingo | Feb 26 2023 13:05 utc | 298
You’re confusing “being angry” with “being stupid.” A disdain for healthy class hate is common among piss liberals.

Posted by: Tichy AKA Kathemy | Feb 26 2023 13:24 utc | 286

@ Outraged | Feb 26 2023 12:23 utc | 294
The Lugansk-Donetsk fighters have been making do with exactly such dated equipment for years.
It’s a shame they couldn’t draw on at least those Chinese munitions stockpiles during these last years. (Lugansk fighter about the opposing American Ukraine forces, from Ghosts: “They have lots of ammunition, let them shoot.”)

Posted by: John Kennard | Feb 26 2023 13:26 utc | 287

Well, if Ugledar is now populated primarily with mercenaries, all the more reason to just level it.
No need to protect the Ukrainian brothers anymore by fighting with one arm tied behind the back.
If some reports from up the thread are correct, this is already happening and a lot of US mercs are already dead.
Posted by: Chris | Feb 26 2023 13:05 utc | 299

During much of the war the Russian high command has treated the lives of Americans in Ukraine as more important than those of its own soldiers.
Hopefully that has changed.
Hopefully…

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 26 2023 13:30 utc | 288

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Feb 26 2023 12:11 utc | 292
Much of the recent Western equipment and forces that they equip were only designed for expeditionary warfare or as part of a US backed coalition. They are simply unfit for the purpose of fighting a near-peer, the inevitable result of military establishments telling politicians they could both conduct peace-keeping operations, whilst maintaining near-peer war-fighting capabilities.

Posted by: Milites | Feb 26 2023 13:31 utc | 289

The negative comments about the Ukrainian military seem out of alignment with how they are doing on the map. The collapse keeps getting pushed back. It appears to me they they are fighting a losing battle with purpose of delaying advance of the Russians – presumably until help can arrive. Looks like they are throwing the untrained/unfit to the front in some areas holding the better trained in reserve, I suppose all in prep for counter attack so Russia is advancing carefully while bracing for expected counter attack.
Still, I am baffled as to why the Ruskies insist on routing them out of the cities – just go around and surround them and let them remain for later.

Posted by: jared | Feb 26 2023 13:32 utc | 290

#302
Your both angry&stupid.
Quilt before you lose your identity.
Posted by: Dingo | Feb 26 2023 13:33 utc | 307
Marxists don’t talk “identity” in the manner of you piss liberals. You should read some of Marx’s private letters.
Anyway we should just all wait. Longhorn the Prophet has foresaid that the whole of the Nazi-loving Ukraine will collapse in two weeks. Then we will all be happy.

Posted by: Kathem-Y | Feb 26 2023 13:40 utc | 291

Another thought on foreign mercs. I suspect they fight much less effectively than the UKRAINIAN regular forces, due to having less skin in the game.
So Ugledar was probably written off by the military chiefs. Actually if they’re sending mercs into the grinder instead of their own people, that is a sign of intellectual development.

Posted by: Chris | Feb 26 2023 13:40 utc | 292

@ Posted by: Menz | Feb 26 2023 10:06 utc | 274
Likely a case of “strawman” argument.
Ignoring the reality has not succeeded in making it go away.

Posted by: jared | Feb 26 2023 13:41 utc | 293

Still, I am baffled as to why the Ruskies insist on routing them out of the cities – just go around and surround them and let them remain for later.
Posted by: jared | Feb 26 2023 13:32 utc | 306

RU conduct of the war remains totally baffling, or only explainable by a deliberate attempt to lose the war due to high treason at the very top.
Just from a few moments ago — Prigozhin says that the Leopard tanks are arriving in Chasov Yar but they have not seen them in battle yet.
And almost nobody notices the absurdity of that statement.
RU has the technical means to have completely cut off the whole of Donbass from any possibility of tanks ever getting there. Instead, they are arriving in Chasov Yar completely undisturbed, less than 5 miles from the front line, and there is no missile strike on wherever they are to destroy them before they get to the battlefield (even though the whole area is supposed to be under constant surveillance by drones and satellites, i.e. they must know where they are), and to this day there has been no disabling of the railways and roads through which they got there.
Occasionally there has been a missile strike here and there but mostly this shit has been going on for a year now — UA is allowed to transport equipment right to the front line, without any interference.
In this case, the only railway link is from Kramatorsk to Konstantinovka. Well within Tornado-S range. Not even Tornado-S, the shorter-range Russian artillery will hit it just fine — it is within Kranospol range from Kleshcheevka. They can hit it precisely twice a day and keep it out of operation permanently even with constant attempts to repair it.
Did anyone ever try that? No.
Same shit everywhere else.
I don’t know what to say at this point, it’s just helpless rage at what we’re witnessing.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 26 2023 13:51 utc | 294

Another thought on foreign mercs. I suspect they fight much less effectively than the UKRAINIAN regular forces, due to having less skin in the game.
So Ugledar was probably written off by the military chiefs. Actually if they’re sending mercs into the grinder instead of their own people, that is a sign of intellectual development.
Posted by: Chris | Feb 26 2023 13:40 utc | 309

If there are “thousands of American mercs” in Ugledar, that means they are not mercs but regular NATO forces.
The casual mercs that didn’t have much skin in the game bailed out of Ukraine a long time ago once they realized this is real war where the chances of getting killed are way too high for the benefits offered.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 26 2023 13:54 utc | 295

“Unconfirmed: first German leopard tank destroyed.”

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 26 2023 13:55 utc | 296

The whole society, culture, civilization, is a collective conspiracy.
Society gives you concepts, narratives, propaganda,
Society gives you political systems, prejudices, divisions and religions.
So you will never be able to look directly, always society will be there to interpret.
No society allows you to see directly.
It always comes in and interprets, and you are befooled by it.
The whole society exists by manipulating others.
That’s why no society allows rebellious people; every society requires obedience, conformity.
No society allows rebellious thoughts that go against their narrative.
Why?
Rebellious thoughts make people aware that the whole thing is just a game, and when people become aware that the whole thing is just a game they become dangerous, they start going beyond the society.
Society exists as a hypnotic state, and the hive mind is a hypnotizing factor.
This has to be constantly remembered, as they are fooling you in such subtle manners…
NATO – Five Eyes,’The sanctions are working’ propaganda!
Don Lemon said on CNN ‘This Morning’, that he had gone into a food shop in Moscow recently and had asked for two fillet steaks and a dozen sausages. The shop-girl had answered, “No meat today, my friend.”
“No meat!” he shouts. “No meat! They haven’t got any meat!” He runs into the street with both arms raised, shouting at the top of his voice, “No meat! No meat! They haven’t got any meat!” Then on he continues down the street shouting at everyone, “They haven’t got any meat! No meat!”
He makes such a noise that the police come running. They see him shouting his head off, immediately arrest him and take him off to prison. In his cell he continues to cry out as he shakes the bars, “No meat! They haven’t got any meat!”
“We’ll have to teach this American a lesson,” says the prison officer. “Take him out into the yard and pretend you’re going to shoot him. That’ll soon shut him up!”
So the guard marches the man, still shouting, into the yard. They line him up against the wall, load the rifles with empty cartridges, take aim and fire.
There are a few seconds’ silence and then suddenly the cry goes up. “No bullets! No bullets! They haven’t got any bullets either!”
How the false makes all kinds of propaganda for itself.
The false will try to convince you with all kinds of arguments.
The truth remains silent.
Unless you are ready to receive it, it will not even knock on your doors.
The false is afraid that if much smoke is not created around it, the falsity of it will be seen by you.
So beware of the rationalizations of the false, its propaganda, its argumentation, its proofs.
And also remember the silence of truth, utter silence, absolute silence.
Truth will never persuade you, it will wait, it can wait for eternity.
But the false cannot wait, it is momentary, it can’t be so patient.
It has to persuade you, it has to seduce you as immediately as possible.
The false is very hypnotizing.
Their ways are totally opposite.
Truth is achieved through awakening, and the false is achieved through deep sleep.
The false is like a tranquilizer, it is very consoling, comforting, cozy, secure, safe.
It gives you all kinds of protections, insurances.
It goes on telling you, “Be with me and I will protect you.
I am your guardian, your guide, your friend, your philosopher.”
The truth never claims anything.
See it.
Seeing is relevant.
Don’t be fooled by the false lies and propaganda.
They have driven the whole of humanity into a kind of madness.
Can’t you see the mental illness of all the people who are powerful?
Are they happy?
Do you see any joy in their lives?
Can’t you observe the rich oligarchs?
They live a dog’s life, in utter misery!
The only thing to be achieved is alertness, not respect, not respectability.
Because that is one of their tricks, they make you obedient through respectability.
They say, “Just follow the society and the society will pay you much respect.”
This is a mutual arrangement.
The more dead you are the more society will pay you respect, the more alive you are the more society will create trouble for you.
Society needs efficiency, so it makes you more and more automatic.
In everything you do, society says be automatic.
It doesn’t bother about your awareness, your awareness is a problem for society.
You are asked to be more efficient, more productive.
This is how the society fools you.
You become efficient, but your soul is lost.
The whole society exists on exploitation.
Remember, it is everywhere.
Don’t be exploited.
You are not a thing, you are a being.
Change yourself, transform yourself.
The whole effort of meditative techniques is to de-automatize you, to make you again alert, to make you again human, fully alive, not a machine.
The NATO war machine of aggression against Russia must be broken and NATO itself must be dissolved!
The whole NATO – Five Eyes propaganda machine is owned by unconscious Christians who want the apocalypse to happen now with the end of our beautiful world, because in their mental illness they think it will signal the return of Christ.
Consciousness is the only antidote and that has to become your very presence through which you can come out of the darkness.
No-mind is this consciousness, this light, this very moment, here-now, inside you.
If you can go into your consciousness, if you can feel, see, realize the nature of your consciousness, that is the way.
The Russian and Ukrainian people are beautiful people as all people are beautiful.
They deserve the love and sympathy and compassion and help of the whole concerned world.
Meditation is the way.

Posted by: @lienChrist | Feb 26 2023 13:59 utc | 297

@ Giyane | Feb 26 2023 13:15 utc | 300

Russia and China totally oppose US style shock and awe shoot first ask questions later. They are trying to proceed with mindfulness of humanity to a different concept of the world.
The RoW 87% detests the West.

Indeed.
No issues with Slow-SMO, high-intensity combined arms industrial attrition warfare strategy via armaments/ordnance expenditure (instead of, unnecessarily, lives/flesh) by RF, here. Demonstrably victorious(It is over vs AFU bar the Fat Lady singin’) at the Theater level, yet especially compliments the geostrategic situ & ‘exposure’ of Empire, ‘nicely’.
@ John Kennard | Feb 26 2023 13:26 utc | 303
Unfortunately so re RF as opposed to PRC, larger/broader political/military & strategic/geostrategic issues at play … in terms of China becoming a US/NATO style faux non-belligerent and imitating/emulating US/NATO ‘support’ over at least past year, the groundwork had to be laid first … appears that may be more likely & if so happen sooner than previously anticipated. Empire has zero capable military response to such a situ, let alone current.
Though for very many months now that situ has been reversed, re DPR/LPR v AFU … the AFU enters its final ride to Valhalla on the penny-packet/piecemeal supply of actual insufficient/derelict junk/ammo going back to WWII, and is further indebted for the dubious privilege, is it not ?
No Jets, no mythical Armored Corps coming for the AFU to mount a fantastical ‘Counter-Offensive’. 88 salvaged Leopard Is (essentially in 2023 obsolete Light Tanks), 40 French wheeled heavy armored cars … leaves an ever diminishing/reducing disavowed, day by day, collection of discards & junk … someday, maybe.
Said late Dec/early Jan all the indicators Empire would abandon Ukraine by latest Jun/Jul ’23 were there to see, that is now clearly in train. The culminating point for Ukraine support was failed Jan20 Ramstein NATO conference and that has been confirmed now beyond doubt in the 38 days since, IMV.
@ unimperator | Feb 26 2023 13:55 utc | 313
Leopard I ?

@ b
Poster below has made a heart-felt, sincere, personal request to be banned, regrets(?) wallowing with so-called ‘revisionist pigs’:
Kathemy/KathemE/AKA Tichy/Kathem-Y | Feb 26 2023 12:43 utc | 295 & 297
An abusive, vulgar, provocateur, sock-puppeting troll.
@ shadowbanned – All
Relentless BS Psyops concern troll.

Posted by: Outraged | Feb 26 2023 14:00 utc | 298

“‼️ THE FIRST DESTROYED LEOPARD TANK. ‼️
Today, 02/26/2023, near the village of Yadnoye, the fighters of the Wagner PMC destroyed the first LEOPARD tank, the fighters were very surprised to see German equipment rolled out to our positions.
Soldiers of PMC ” Wagner ” attacked a German tank from an ATGM, the turret was torn off from the blow, the crew consisting of Polish-German mercenaries was destroyed.
Exclusive footage from the camera of one of the fighters has been uploaded to the official channel of the Wagner PMC, go and watch the full video from the beginning of the destruction to the review of the tank and a picture of the remains of the crew.”
https://t.me/brigadadiverse/7956
Don’t know if this is true (the picture is illustrative from Syria). They claim by an ATGM, but from Syria experience we know they get destroyed by basic Soviet ATGM.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 26 2023 14:01 utc | 299

My apologies to one and all for this meaningless back&forth. It’s a waste of your time& mine. Nothing was discussed on the topic at hand. That was my mistake, maybe I learned something.

Posted by: Dingo | Feb 26 2023 14:04 utc | 300