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February 25, 2023
Ukraine – Those Guns Unknown To Me

Over the last months I read each Daily Report on the war in Ukraine by the Russian Ministry of Defense.

The reports list the losses of the Ukrainian side on each of the major fronts. I was especially interested in the dedicated counter-artillery campaign the Russian's have been waging during the last two months.

They numbers in the Russian reports may be wrong or exaggerated but they are in a range that is plausible for such a high intensity operation.


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The average daily Ukrainian losses are 12 major artillery pieces, one artillery radar and 3 to 4 artillery ammunition points or depots. The Ukrainian losses of men are listed at around 400+ per day. (The reports exclude the Wagner operations in Bakhmut/Artyomovsk.)

For the one month I recorded 214 destroyed truck pulled howitzers, 92 destroyed self-propelled howitzers and 56 destroyed Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (MLRS). About 12,000 Ukrainian troops were also reported to have been killed.

For comparison the artillery 'fist' of a NATO tank or motorized infantry division is its artillery brigade. It consists of 3 fire battalions each of which has 3 fire companies each of which has 6 guns or MLRS. That is a total of 52 major artillery pieces.

Losing a total of 362 major artillery pieces as Ukraine has done in a month is a lot, much more than the 'west' is able to replace. The current lack of ammunition that Ukraine claims to have will soon change into an oversupply simply because Ukraine will lack the guns and MLRS to fire it.

But that isn't the focus of this piece.

I have wondered about some howitzer/gun types the reports mentioned as destroyed. I had never heard of those and had to look them up.

What is for example the M101 truck pulled howitzer?

After World War I, the U.S. Army Ordnance Department studied various captured German 105 mm-caliber howitzers and developed the 105 mm Howitzer M1920 on Carriage M1920.

A modified version of the M1 was trialed in 1932 which used semi-fixed ammunition instead of separate-loading ammunition.

The original M1 carriage had been designed for towing using horses rather than trucks, and a new carriage, the T5 (M2), was developed in 1939 and standardized in February 1940.

The U.S. military artillery designation system was changed in 1962, redesignating the M2A1 howitzer the M101A1.

So the M101, pictured below, is a U.S. copy of a German army howitzer design from World War I. Some 10,000 have been build mostly during World War II.


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The ones Ukraine has, and the two Russia claimed to have destroyed, were gifts from the Lithuanian army reserve.

The D-44 anti-tank gun was also unknown to me:

The 85-mm divisional gun D-44 (Russian: 85-мм дивизионная пушка Д-44) was a Soviet divisional 85-mm calibre field artillery gun used in the last action of World War II.

The barrel was developed from that of the T-34-85 tank and was capable of firing 20–25 high-explosive (HE), armor-piercing, and high-explosive antitank (HEAT) projectiles per minute.


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A nice little museum piece.

There is also the Rapira anti tank gun which turns out to be a bit more modern:

2A19 or T-12 is a Soviet-designed 100-mm anti-tank gun. It was the first anti-tank gun to adopt a smoothbore barrel, and to introduce modern armor piercing shot, like the APFSDS. It uses long projectiles that are more powerful than its caliber suggests.

In 1971 a new variant was introduced, T-12A or MT-12 "Rapira" (2A29). This has the same barrel, but has a redesigned carriage and gun shield.

By the mid-1990s modern western tanks' frontal armor protection could no longer be penetrated by a 100 mm gun. The 100 mm caliber ammunition had reached the limits of what could be achieved with it.


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It is sad to see that the Ukrainian army has to use such museum pieces. Yes, they still may be useful in special cases. Also having such guns is probably better than having no gun at all.

But they have no chance to survive or even win on a more recent battle field.

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Unfortunately donbas and luhansk militia are also forced to use museum piece guns. Better equipment and treatment for the militias would have this war in a better place. Why let the enemy attrit your most experienced soldiers?

Posted by: Cresty | Feb 25 2023 18:59 utc | 101

Re 71 @young comment on the age of the arty shells in the Transnistria depots. As long as these shells are stored in the proper conditions, they really don’t have an expiration date, other than an artificial one imposed by the MIC. The fuses may be a different story. Heck, I am shooting 303 calibre cartridges made in Greece in 1952, for the Korean War. Once in a great while I have a misfire, and have to pull the unexploded cartridge out. Arty shells are the same principle. The fuses may degrade over time, though…..

Posted by: Rolando | Feb 25 2023 19:15 utc | 102

Meanwhile, Moeini continues: For it is in Kyiv’s interests to steer Nato into becoming more closely entangled in the war.
Likklemore | Feb 25 2023 16:35 utc | 65
They do exactly as told, there’s no local brain or interest. Those who say it is are nato propagandists.

Posted by: rk | Feb 25 2023 19:16 utc | 103

@Down South #51
Medvedev: This is precisely the reason why many European countries are dragging out the decision to send their fighters to Ukraine. Everything that is supplied to Ukraine will fall into our hands!
Precisely.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 25 2023 19:17 utc | 104

@Rolando #103
Did you count your fingers lately?
Should we be concerned!

Posted by: Don Firineach | Feb 25 2023 19:24 utc | 105

It is good to see something positive from Berlin/Germany.
file:///var/folders/8f/jw727cn9225_ck2_7rc6y__m0000gp/T/FILE%202023-02-25%2014:24:29.mp4

Posted by: Konrad | Feb 25 2023 19:29 utc | 106

@ Posted by: Konrad | Feb 25 2023 19:29 utc | 107
Are you going to allow us to have VPN access to your hard drive 😉

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 25 2023 19:35 utc | 107

One more note from Military Summary channel – it’s speculated there, and probably elsewhere, that if Chinese would give “weapons”, the highest likelihood they would be some kind of drones. Chinese do have an AI controlled drone swarm system, pretty highly advanced which are launched as a package from MLRS type system. But if Chinese were to supply arms, they would probably be produced outside China, Belarus is one possibility for that.
But all the production facilities might take time to setup, and this war will last for, unfortunately, probably several years.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 25 2023 19:36 utc | 108

Posted by: Konrad | Feb 25 2023 19:29 utc | 107
Ukrainian provocateurs transported a Russian tank from Ukraine and put it in front of the Russian Embassy in Germany to make some statement against Russian military in Ukraine. The next day the tank was covered all over with red roses as an expressian of respect for Russian soldiers by the German population.

Posted by: Konrad | Feb 25 2023 19:37 utc | 109

Rybar is seething once again:
https://t.me/rybar/43980

Meanwhile, in the distant Sumy region, previously captured and repaired Russian armored vehicles are being loaded onto railway tracks and sent to the eastern front.
Judging by the undisguised loading and the very presence of a report from local TV, Ukrainian servicemen are not afraid of any missile or air strikes. Well, it’s understandable, the target is clearly not a priority, it’s better to bomb some kind of transformer, and the Sumy region is apparently very far away, missiles won’t get there.

That nonsense still continues…

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 25 2023 19:40 utc | 110

” on the front-lines the life expectancy is only 4 hours
Feb: 23, 2023 LINK
“It’s been pretty bad on the ground,” he said. “A lot of casualties. The life expectancy is around four hours on the frontline.”
WOW. That is a speedy demise. Not enough time to get acquainted with the scenery. So the number of UKR and mercs KIA is not overstated.
Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 25 2023 18:22 utc | 90 ”
Photo of Wagner troops killed in just one day.
https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1628388386670104583

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Feb 25 2023 19:46 utc | 111

“Alexander Kharchenko:
We spent 5 days in Bakhmut . I saw many battles, but I don’t remember so many corpses. “Wagner” received a command to collect the bodies of the enemy and do their job efficiently. In a short time, the detachment with which we worked removed a hundred corpses of Ukrainian servicemen from under fire. And even despite this, the fields and the private sector are literally littered with bodies. The guys are trying to speed up the process – the thaw will bring the stench of decomposition and infection to Bakhmut.
Desperate fighters from the supply group are engaged in the evacuation of the wounded and killed. From the outside it may seem that they risk less attacks from Ukrainian soldiers, but this is not so. A real hunt has been declared for them. Recently, the enemy often works with kamikaze drones, while trying to get exactly under the stretcher in order to guarantee “three hundred” at least 3 people. The commander who gave us an interview, the next day, went to search for missing persons and received a fragment in the leg. This brief introduction says a lot about the intensity of the fighting.
The Ukrainians are desperately resisting, but lately it has been noticeable that elite units have left Bakhmut. The front in the urban area is held by Kyiv detachments from the mobilized and ZEKs. We’ll give you an invoice later. “Specialists” are used as a fire brigade, which is trying to stop breakthroughs, but it turns out they are weak.
The enemy has armored vehicles, and he actively uses them. Of the interesting, a brand new M113 in sand coloring was noticed. Most likely, he got to Bakhmut straight from the Polish port, where he was delivered recently.
Ukrainians have a lot of artillery, and they are actively working with it. Both Soviet systems and high-precision Western models are used. But even this does not stop the promotion of “musicians”. In recent days, I can note the abandonment of several positions by Ukrainian troops. They could still be defended, but the enemy preferred to retreat to more advantageous lines.
In a word, through sweat, blood and a huge strain of all forces, the Wagner group pushes through the enemy. Ukrainians understand that they cannot hold the city, but they are fighting for the birth of a new national myth. The tale of the “Heroes of Bakhmut” will be composed very soon. It is necessary to feed our rapidly thinning society with something.”
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/35028
So the rumors of Ukraine rotating “elite” troops out and newly mobilized in seems true. Nevertheless, “elite” troops or not, the grind of newly mobilized will benefit just as well as they will be hard pressed to hold any territory later on even if they manage to capture something.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 25 2023 19:59 utc | 112

This almost looks like a Ceaucescu moment
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/35014
The Canadian Prime Minister was profanely sent away when he exclaimed: “Glory to Ukraine!”
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been booed for his nationalist slogan “Glory to Ukraine!”. This was reported by the Canadian press.
Trudeau was speaking to Ukrainians in Toronto and at the beginning of his speech he exclaimed: “Glory to Ukraine!”. However, he heard “Fuck Trudeau” in response.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 25 2023 20:03 utc | 113

james | Feb 25 2023 18:49 utc | 96
The only stuff i found on the London demo was on facebum
https://www.facebook.com/stopthewarcoalition

Posted by: olaf22 | Feb 25 2023 20:09 utc | 114

Hmmm. B, I never was a cannon-cocker, so I can’t say for sure, but from what I know about machinery, there’s no reason why any of the somewhat vintage artillery being dug out of storage depots won’t do the job just fine. My worry would be rust from bad storage, and degradation of rubber seals in the recoil and counterbalance mechanisms. The shells will all do just fine, but there might be problems with clockwork or pozit fuses not working. I would imagine (but then..no cannon-cocker) that the powder-burn fuses would work fine, as well as the contact fuses, possible exception of hyperquick ones. My read on artillery, small arms too, is that all the real engineering problems were all solved by the end of WWII–most a good stretch before that. There haven’t been any real breakthroughs in either since. And there was no shortage of ammunition made for these pieces, when they were made and in service, and I would imagine that ammo has been put in safe long-term storage since withdrawal from service of these pieces. I would imagine that blowing up the shells is far easier and cheaper than trying to recycle them for steel and chemicals.
Again, I send out an appeal to anyone more knowledgeable to fill us all in on the details as well as a more informed opinion of these matters. A possible jam-up instead of shortage of guns/ammunition might be a fuse shortage. Dunno.

Posted by: Daniel N. White | Feb 25 2023 20:10 utc | 115

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 25 2023 20:03 utc | 114
Trudeau was speaking to Ukrainians in Toronto and at the beginning of his speech he exclaimed: “Glory to Ukraine!”. However, he heard “Fuck Trudeau” in response.
I can’t find this. I don’t subscribe to telegram and only thing I got was “https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/why-don-t-you-settle-down-prime-minister-trudeau-admonishes-heckler-at-ukraine-event-1.6288980”

Posted by: Calgary Guy | Feb 25 2023 20:11 utc | 116

There was a video today where Ukraine launched Himars strike on ambulance and fire brigade on scene of previous shelling. This is a war crime of highest degree.
https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1629570157822525444
It’s terrible, but it also proves the point that after losing counter-battery radars, they are unable to target Russian artillery so they attack Donetsk city instead.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 25 2023 20:19 utc | 117

Literally scraping the bottom of the barrel

Posted by: Can’t Remember | Feb 25 2023 20:19 utc | 118

I was sent on course to an artillery unit….this was years ago..but they ran a longer barreled version of M101 howitzer…called a C3. With rocket assisted rounds it had a range of 18km…high rate of fire and lethal burst radius of about 25m or half the 155mm howitzer but with about a third of the HE filling. It was light and could be towed by light or medium vehicles and did have Special purpose rounds available if needed be …that being tactical nuclear shells for the layman. So they are still lethal and free.I know nothing about the other Soviet artillery systems mentioned but the 57mm anti-aircraft gun is currently being used mounted Russian trucks and tracks in direct fire ground role with good effect right now. The 14th Guards army was active in Transnistria till 1995…a thirty year shelf life of properly stored munitions is very feasible.

Posted by: Joe | Feb 25 2023 20:19 utc | 119

@Calgary Guy | Feb 25 2023 20:11 utc | 117

I can’t find this. I don’t subscribe to telegram and only thing I got was “https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/why-don-t-you-settle-down-prime-minister-trudeau-admonishes-heckler-at-ukraine-event-1.6288980”

It is all over Telegram, I have seen it on several channels, you can’t miss it there. Probably someone will provide another link. I recommend getting Telegram though.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 25 2023 20:23 utc | 120

Such a useful table…
https://t.me/rogers_kitchen/8477

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 25 2023 20:31 utc | 121

Norwegian@121…..they have issues with enunciation and English to English translations in the Greater Toronto area, it was likely “Cuck Trudeau”….
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 25 2023 20:38 utc | 122

Among other things, the United States has banned the supply of smartphones over $300 to Belarus and Russia.
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2023/02/27/2023-03927/implementation-of-additional-sanctions-against-russia-and-belarus-under-the-export-administration
So now Russians will buy more Huawei phones without the US spyware installed.
Another win (and own goal for the US).

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 25 2023 20:42 utc | 123

Quite interesting analysis by Dugin:
https://english.almayadeen.net/articles/analysis/from-special-operation-to-full-scale-war

Posted by: RB | Feb 25 2023 20:44 utc | 124

@sean the leprechaun | Feb 25 2023 20:38 utc | 124
If you have Telegram it is easy to check via my link in @114

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 25 2023 20:50 utc | 125

What if NATO tells Russia ,”Guess what,we placed dirty bombs in there as well with our commandos”? Russia will then be even more afraid to bomb it.
Posted by: Brother Ma | Feb 25 2023 18:07 utc | 83
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I don’t envision them bombing it via cruise missiles, ideally blowing things via their men on the ground as soon as word comes the move is on toward them, ie prepared charges are already set, then it’s a matter of arming them and starting to blow the buildings needed, or maybe they have an artillery piece they can use from a few km away. But who knows, maybe that’s not even practical or just too damn dangerous for the poor guys stuck there to have ready, let alone pull off in an hour or two even if they were ready to go, if they’d even have that long. As for some dirty bomb threat, if i’m russia at that point I call that (bluff or not) and hit a building just on principal – don’t know that I waste a whole salvo on it, but again they know better than I what’s worthwhile there and what isn’t.
On KT equiv total sure but we’re not talking about a simultaneous release of all that energy in one instant like a nuke. That’s what I doubt, I thought I mention that.
As for moving stuff out over the year. Just as an exercise, where too though? I guess little by little they could have snuck out a single truck at time over night to bury\hide stuff in random places, but you can bet nato birds have been watching the area, maybe not 24×7, but probably close enough to catch any real movement.
My gut initially thought this is all meant as a distraction, not much different than RU troops in western portions of Belarus and all the speculation in the past generated by that. Sure either could happen though, it’s certainly been threatened before in this regard though, in fact we’re at the point though that anything can happen. Two things that makes me think twice that it’s possibly more then just a “keep them guessing” thing though are recent gov change in Moldova, and an upcoming need for headline distractions from bakhmut. Like you said we’ll see. I’m just another armchair trying to follow things and fit some of the piece together best I can.

Anyone seen any sign of UK media coverage of anti war demo in London today?
Posted by: olaf22 | Feb 25 2023 18:34 utc | 92

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 25 2023 20:51 utc | 126

@Opport Knocks | Feb 25 2023 20:42 utc | 125
I saw that too (Telegram). What are they thinking sanctioning themselves. The Chinese will have no issues taking over that business, and they should.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 25 2023 20:53 utc | 127

Trudeau was speaking to Ukrainians in Toronto and at the beginning of his speech he exclaimed: “Glory to Ukraine!”. However, he heard “Fuck Trudeau” in response.
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 25 2023 20:03 utc | 114
I have no idea, why this is tolerated.
1. Glorifying a country is nationalism
2. Glorifying a foreign country is treason
3. Repeating it all over again is religious fundamentalism

Posted by: Vikichka | Feb 25 2023 20:55 utc | 128

That nonsense still continues…
Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 25 2023 19:40 utc | 111
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Going back to what someone already mentioned about some occasional talk about the very scripted feel to this conflict at times. There are plenty of things that have happened, or in more cases perhaps thing that have not happened at times, that while are entirely explainable themselves when piled up, do at times make one stop and wonder for at least a moment.

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 25 2023 20:59 utc | 129

@125
Not so much Huawei…Xiaomi is the best selling brand in Russia.

Posted by: upsetter | Feb 25 2023 21:02 utc | 130

Trudeau was speaking to Ukrainians in Toronto and at the beginning of his speech he exclaimed: “Glory to Ukraine!”. However, he heard “Fuck Trudeau” in response.
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 25 2023 20:03 utc | 114
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So FJB is joined now by FJT. Well better late then never.

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 25 2023 21:04 utc | 131

This is a war of artillery, where armour is currently of at best secondary importance, so these museum pieces can be repurposed as short range but still capable artillery guns. They are also still very useful against soft skinned vehicles and APCs/IFVs which have much thinner armour than tanks. This means they’re a deterrent against mechanised infantry operations, and for sure they’re more capable than Bidet’s Saint Javelins.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 25 2023 21:07 utc | 132

Ask your Davos representative for the answer.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 25 2023 18:28 utc | 91
A good idea. Would we get a truthful reply?
One I know of resides in the great Canadian badlands and is reported to be the US’ favorite to replace Jens as next Secretary General of NATO, said to qualify as she speaks more than four languages with a rich ancestral tie to UKR.
Question of the day. Which country will be the first to exit NATO?
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Photo of Wagner troops killed in one day
@Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Feb 25 2023 19:46 utc | 112
Yes Deplorable,
At the very least the bodies of Rus are not left to be butchered by UKRNazis and are not abandoned for wild animals. They are collected for proper burial. See post 113
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Could this infographic be correct? Courtesy, The Ron Paul Institute

US Military Aid To Ukraine Exceeds The Costs Of Afghanistan

http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2023/february/25/us-military-aid-to-ukraine-exceeds-the-costs-of-afghanistan/
Note: Costs stated does not include weapons and equipment

Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 25 2023 21:16 utc | 133

In 2003 in Berlin there were protests against the Iraq war; 500.000 people attended – according to the police. A few days ago Belin saw protests against the Ukraine war – 10.000 people. In 2003, government leaders got criticism; in 2023 the organizer of the anti-war protest, Sarah Wagenknecht, is getting the criticism. What changed?
Technology. Today, when watching news on an internet-connected tv, when clicking on search results on a pc, or swiping through a social media app on your mobile, you are being watched. Statistics are kept to see if the people, as a whole, zap away when Zelensky appears, or to the contrary click on a news item because it features Ukraine. Content is adapted until people react as desired: love Zelensky, hate Putin. It’s not only that you are being lied to. It’s that the lies are tailor-made so you not only gobble them up; you find them interesting as well.

Posted by: Passerby | Feb 25 2023 21:19 utc | 134

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 25 2023 21:07 utc
I can’t help but surmise that the Western over reliance on expensive but fragile systems and fetishization of technology is its’ greatest weakness.
Russia is using 1910’s technology (albeit boosted with modern upgrades) and refusing to fight the way the West wants them to.
It must drive them mad.

Posted by: Chris | Feb 25 2023 21:20 utc | 135

On the theme of b’s topic, here’s today’s report from the Russian Defence Ministry for barflies to chew over, spit out the gristle and digest the nourishment:

Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.
In Kupyansk direction, the attacks, launched by Army Aviation and the artillery of the ‘Zapad’ Group of Forces, have resulted in the neutralisation of the enemy units near Masyutovka, Ivanovka (Kharkov region), and Novosyolovskoye (Lugansk People’s Republic).
The AFU suffered losses of up to 60 servicemen, three pickup trucks, one U.S.-manufactured M777 artillery system and one Polish-manufactured Krab self-propelled artillery system.
In Krasny Liman direction, the active operations of the ‘Tsentr’ Group of Forces, as well as the attacks, launched by aviation, artillery, and heavy flamethrower systems, have resulted in the neutralisation of the manpower and hardware of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU0 near Yampolovka (Donetsk People’s Republic), Stelmakhovka, and Chervonaya Dibrova and Kuzmino (Lugansk People’s Republic).
The AFU losses were about 180 Ukrainian servicemen, six armoured fighting vehicles, one Grad MLRS, one D-20 howitzer and one counter-battery radar station.
In Donetsk direction, more than 120 Ukrainian servicemen, three armoured fighting vehicles, as well as D-20 and D-30 howitzers have been eliminated as a result of active operations of the ‘Yug’ Group of Forces, air strikes and artillery fire.
One AFU ordnance depot has been destroyed near Avdeyevka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
In South Donetsk and Zaporozhye directions, Operational-Tactical Aviation and the artillery of the ‘Vostok’ Group of Forces have launched a complex fire attack against the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) near Ugledar, Dobrovolye (Donetsk People’s Republic), and Gulyaypole (Zaporozhye region).
The enemy lost over 90 servicemen, three tanks, two infantry fighting vehicles, two armoured fighting vehicles, two pickup trucks, one Msta-B howitzer and one D-20 howitzer.
Two AFU ordnance depots have been destroyed near Ugledar (Donetsk People’s Republic), and Malinovka (Zaporozhye region).
In Kherson direction, one U.S.-manufactured M777 artillery system and two Gvozdika self-propelled artillery units have been destroyed in a counter-battery battle.
Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have neutralised 97 AFU artillery units at their firing positions, manpower and military hardware in 135 areas.
The provisional bases of marines and Special Operations Forces near Glukhoye (Dnepropetrovsk region), have been hit.
Fighter Aviation of Russian Aerospace Forces have shot down Su-24 and MiG-29 airplanes of Ukrainian Air Force near Rozovka and Dimitrov (Donetsk People’s Republic).
Air defence facilities have shot down one Su-25 airplane near Tyaginka (Kherson region).
Eight Ukrainian drones have been destroyed near Zhovtnyovoye (Kharkov region), Rubezhnoye, Pshenichnoye, Zhytlovka, Kremennaya (Lugansk People’s Republic), Novomikhailovka (Donetsk People’s Republic) and Novozlatopol (Zaporozhye region).
In addition, two HIMARS multiple-launch rockets and three Tochka-U ballistic missiles have been intercepted.
In total, 390 airplanes, 210 helicopters, 3,236 unmanned aerial vehicles, 405 air defence missile systems, 8,027 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 1,045 fighting vehicles equipped with MLRS, 4,215 field artillery guns and mortars, as well as 8,538 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed since the beginning of the special military operation.

“It’ll all be over by Christmas” they said once upon a time. Only 10 months to go from today then…

Posted by: West of England Andy | Feb 25 2023 21:26 utc | 136

Today, there has been a peace demo in Berlin, featuring Sahra Wagenknecht of “Die Linke” and Alice Schwarzer, a former German icon of feminism. They advocated a stop to weapons deliveries to Ukraine and called for peace negotiations instead. Some 13,000 protesters took to the streets – and the MSM even covered it!
Call them the new peace movement – the rest of us is largely part of the war movement, whose ideology is based on the demonisation of Vladimir Putin. The US spin doctors arranged the choreography in such a way that the invasion had been predicted for months – and, after it happened, could be seen as the final “proof” of Putin’s evil character. Those who had “known” it all along, finally got the upper hand, and authority of interpretation, on Feb 24th 2022.
Language arrangements were made for all TV anchormen – they had to call it “Putin’s brutal war of aggression.” In the fall of 2022, the Bundestag made it illegal to view the events in any other way – which has since resulted in several thousand Euros of fines against individuals guilty of “Volksverhetzung” – because thy had tried to put Putin’s SMO in its historic context, dating back to at least 2013/14.
So they have put us, and most other Europeans, into a war context of their own making, an alledged showdown between good and evil. The narrative has, by now, reached a state where it’s irreversible – and no less totalitarian and undemocratic than the events that led up to “Operation Barbarossa” in 1941.
What little Wagenknecht and Schwarzer can achieve in this environment, at considerable risk to themselves, is an act of courage which should be appreciated – they should be seen as heroines of resistence against totalitarianism.

Posted by: grunzt | Feb 25 2023 21:29 utc | 137

Nonsense. If Ukraine stops killing its own population, then Ukraine won’t stop to exist.
Posted by: Vikichka | Feb 25 2023 17:48 utc | 79
Maybe. But since they have already lost almost half their population and doubtless more before all this is over, their state has already been existentially damaged beyond repair – which might be one of the goals of this exercise.
Unless you believe that most who leave are going to come back after the current neocon-sponsored regime is no more.

Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 25 2023 21:37 utc | 138

ukro males snatched off the streets , its getting to be so a guy has to carry a grenade in his pocket to go get milk. it only takes fragging a few commisars and they might start sitting at a booth at the mall

Posted by: hankster | Feb 25 2023 21:45 utc | 139

One I know of resides in the great Canadian badlands and is reported to be the US’ favorite to replace Jens as next Secretary General of NATO, said to qualify as she speaks more than four languages with a rich ancestral tie to UKR.
Question of the day. Which country will be the first to exit NATO?
Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 25 2023 21:16 utc | 135

As I have said before, Freeland is my choice just to get her out of the country. But BoJo has recently thrown his hat in the ring and could get the job, a clown promoted to ringmaster.
Turkey is the obvious choice to be the first to opt out of NATO. If Russia’s gambit is successful (unlikely), the SE Europe post 1990 additions might be removed. I have never understood Portugal’s membership.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 25 2023 21:46 utc | 140

It isnt so much technology as being tired.
So many of us have fought an exhausting fight against the covid regime. Now its hard to to keep it going for a far away conflict.
And i do understand that those who do organize those meetings have a simple calculation at heart: how many can you gain by stepping in this fight how many may you lose by taking sides in a seemingly (!) Unrelated but emotional topic?
In the end the public is the target of each and every campaign. Its a never ending fight but among those who are capable i do see a very human need for relieve. And at the moment most people still try to enjoy the time of relaxation although we feel something is coming.

Posted by: Orgel | Feb 25 2023 21:47 utc | 141

Ugledar is apparently now being dissected into molecules by 200 and 240mm mortars (battlecruiser caliber). They might be able to shuffle some underground dirt, too.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 25 2023 21:52 utc | 142

Ekaterina Blinova has written another excellent report, “Sy Hersh on US Proxy War on Russia, Snowden’s Expose & Nord Stream Sabotage”, that keeps us updated on the Nordstream Terrorist Attacks by the Outlaw US Empire. Excerpt:

Commenting on his recent piece on Substack titled “From the Gulf of Tonkin to the Baltic Sea,” the Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist pointed out that US President Lyndon Johnson lied to the American people and made US spies change the intelligence on the Gulf of Tonkin incident to get congressional permission to expand the Vietnam War, which ultimately claimed the lives of 58,000 Americans and between one and three million Vietnamese.
Now the Americans have a president who does not tell the truth about what he authorized and what happened, Hersh continued, referring to the Nord Stream sabotage plot.
However, when Joe Biden talked publicly about halting Nord Stream on February 7, 2022 and told the press that the US “will be able to do it” within three weeks of the intelligence briefing, “guys in the group were upset because that was supposed to be a covert operation,” the journalist noted.
Moreover, after the group did its job and planted the bombs in June 2022, they realized that Biden had done it for political purposes and that it wouldn’t help the war against Russia, according to Hersh. In fact, the US president sought to prevent Germany and Western Europe from opening up the new Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which was not subjected to sanctions, the journalist believes.
“That’s the rationale for the mission: to make sure that Western Europe keeps on supporting NATO and keeps on funneling arms into what is clearly a proxy war against Russia that’s being fought right now,” Hersh underscored.
This presidency has been caught out, in a way, due to what they did to the pipelines, the journalist noted, presuming that the Biden administration would never recognize the wrongdoing.

The comparison with the Gulf of Tonkin lie is curious because it remained a lie for quite awhile and LBJ never suffered any adverse repercussions. It’s also curious that Western media seems to believe that if they don’t publish anything related to it, they can continue to control the narrative over the act of war–except that they can’t as its developments are being broadcast/published globally. Other nations add together the 2014 coup, the massive illegal sanctions and theft of Russian property that’s been ongoing since Obama/Biden, and the NS bombings along with the daily litany of lies coming from Biden’s government, and they can easily conclude the Outlaw US Empire is just that–an Outlaw, a Criminal/Terroristic government that isn’t to be trusted at all. And over the past week we’ve seen China come out with some very accusatory statements of fact that merges with the actual narrative of the bombings and two different proposals for peace and security to which the Empire said Absolutely NO.
With all these facts presented, what is a nation to do? First a look at what other nations are doing is made, and it’s seen that 80+ favor China’s GSI, while many others are dumping the dollar and making other arrangements–many are submitting requests to become part of BRICS or SCO. IMO, there’s no way to not see what’s occurring internationally if you’re a nation trying to advance its own interests–the way to advance them is to join with other likeminded nations into a bloc for protection against the Outlaw US Empire while also advancing your and other nations’s interests by acting together in all areas: trade, finance, diplomacy, etc.
The Russians, Chinese, Iranians, Indians, and others have announced the end of the Unipolar World and emergence of its replacement, the Multipolar World with genuine Multilateralism and respect for the equality of all nations and thus their peoples. But to make the emergence the new paradigm, a struggle must be entered into as the old order isn’t just going to lay its arms down and surrender–it will need to be forced to do so, and that reality cannot be obfuscated.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2023 21:53 utc | 143

But to make the emergence the new paradigm, a struggle must be entered into as the old order isn’t just going to lay its arms down and surrender–it will need to be forced to do so, and that reality cannot be obfuscated.
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2023 21:53 utc | 145

Succession of multiple key states could do the job, but they will be suppressed harder than Donbass was. Short of a military coup and mass executions inside the beltway, it’s not going to happen in the next few years.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 25 2023 22:02 utc | 144

That should be “secession” of course.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 25 2023 22:03 utc | 145

Speaking of Ukraine being existentially vernichted…

This is bad, real bad! I don’t want to see that in my country! Swiss citizens are now facing forced evictions to house Ukrainian refugees. Just one step further and officials in Switzerland will start requisitioning private property and possessions for Ukrainian refugees. This has already started in Germany…
In the latest news, the municipality of Seegräben in Canton Zürich is throwing out a long-term tenant out of his apartment because they are unable to find apartments to accommodate asylum seekers from Ukraine.
I think this is just the beginning… Fight for your rights…

https://strangesounds.org/2023/02/now-in-wefland-switzerland-swiss-residents-are-thrown-out-of-their-rental-apartments-for-ukrainian-refugees.html
Is this typical war-related stuff? Don’t think so.
Perhaps the actual war is not that between Ukrainians and Russians in Donbass in both alternative and mainstream news, but between (mainly) western citizens and their own elite class? Is that what is behind the hundreds of food processing plants burning down in the US in past two years? Or doubling of blackouts? Train derailings? Miscarriages? Early deaths? Is this really all just about a new benign multipolar world emerging from under a hegemonic boot? What do all these other things (like evicting Swiss citizens for Ukrainian migrants) have to do with it? Why are Western leaders seemingly determined to bring their own countries into dysfunction eroding trust in the social contract and common humanity?
We wonders, aye we wonders…
Whitney has some thoughts on this..
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-plan-to-wreck-america/

Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 25 2023 22:05 utc | 146

Anyone seen any sign of UK media coverage of anti war demo in London today?
Posted by: olaf22 | Feb 25 2023 18:34 utc | 92
https://socialistworker.co.uk/news/london-march-says-stop-the-war-in-ukraine/

Posted by: Red Star | Feb 25 2023 22:07 utc | 147

Norwegian @ 73
Mange Takk, Danke Schon. Den blomstels vaer ganske bra. Hjertelig.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 25 2023 22:09 utc | 148

wage laborer @95
Good one.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 25 2023 22:15 utc | 149

Looks like Ivanovske (west of Bakhmut) is crumbling. Just speculating, but now that Bakhmut is already close to encircled, they probably shifted forces from the east part of Bakhmut towards Ivanovske to complete encirclement. They don’t need to assault Bakhmut now, just keep it and bombard it and reduce the defenders.
Meanwhile Zelensky suddenly wants to meet Xi Jinping, LOL. C’mon, doesn’t he wanna play? The game is just getting started.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 25 2023 22:25 utc | 150

The UK is predicting one more year of war.
This means they expect either russia or ukraine to surrender, in that the war has become unsustainable. The stalemate that has occurred is becoming intolerable, probably because of cost and weapon use intensity.
Therefore, russia needs to make plans to keep the high intensity stalemate work for 12 more months and the west will force ukraine to lose and let business get back to usual.
I mean there’ll be more wars prepped for the future but for a while at least russia will be out ahead. The stalemate is a strategic victory already. The land bridge and securing the sea of azov will be a good place to begin the next war for russia.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Feb 25 2023 22:27 utc | 151

From Z&V telegram channel….
Articles 106 and 107 of the UN Charter give Russia, as the legal heir of the victor in World War II, the right to take any action, including military action, against Germany, Hungary, Austria, Romania, Bulgaria, Finland, Croatia, Slovenia. . . , the Czech Republic, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania and Ukraine for trying to revive Nazism.
UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres was surprised when he learned from Putin that there is an article in the UN charter that allows the Russian special operation to be carried out in Ukraine.
‼️🇷🇺RUSSIA HAS THE RIGHT TO PUNISH NAZIS EVERYWHERE (according to the UN Charter) 🔥🔥🔥

If this is true… NATO has no leg to stand on…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Feb 25 2023 22:29 utc | 152

SEAN @124
Rumor has it that Pierre Arrogant Trudeau was cucked by none other than Fidel. Seems like Mrs. Trudeau was somewhat akin to a wine taster…but with nowhere to spit it out from that type of coupling.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 25 2023 22:29 utc | 153

Opport Knocks @146–
One main assumption in my analysis is the ability of the Outlaw US Empire’s core to stay whole while it retreats from its current global expanse and forms a Dollar Bloc within which is subordinated the Euro Bloc. The Euro Bloc is currently being destabilized by the Empire, so it’s difficult to say how long it will remain intact. I do expect the Empire to retain control of its colonies of Japan, UK, Australia, and Canada. I do expect it to lose Taiwan and South Korea, while where New Zealand goes is anyone’s guess. Baring another invasion by the Empire, the Philippines will also join the greater ASEAN+China bloc. By 2050, Japan might also depart. The Aussies are another wild card as geoeconomically they’re tied to Asia.
So, the struggle will last at least one most likely two generations–20-40 years. As Hudson points out, the dollar isn’t going away; rather, it will lose its hegemony and purchasing power as nations dedollarize. Those of us stuck inside the Dollarzone must be aware of the escalating decline that’s already in motion.
Militarily, the Empire is a great threat to its immediate neighbors and those lacking modern anti-ship missiles; otherwise, it’s a paper tiger with nukes since it really can’t project power as it was once able. Politically within the Empire, a Critical Mass must rise and sustain itself to force the sort of changes needed to end Neoliberal parasitism and its ally Neoconism. IMO, the economic pain will need to massively increase to Depression Era levels and beyond for that to occur. But we must admit that wresting the coercive power from the Feds will be very difficult and likely costly in lives as the Parasites aren’t going to go willingly.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2023 22:29 utc | 154

@ karlof1 | Feb 25 2023 21:53 utc | 145
the Outlaw US Empire is just that–an Outlaw, a Criminal/Terroristic government
Goverment?
The government is the system of people, laws, and officials that define and control the country that we live in. The U.S. government, for example, is a representative democracy with three branches.
The examples you give involve the president, Johnson and Biden, acting solely on his own, and not the government.
Currently Biden counts on the congressional branch for funding the war, but all administrative actions do not involve the Congress (which we know does not represent the citizens anyhow).
Specifically, the anti-Russia sanctions and others are based on a “national emergency” that Biden himself declared on April 15, 2021. .here.
The reasons for Biden on his own declaring a “national emergency” are pure BS. There is nothing “democratic” about it, and now we get to pay more for the goods imported from Russia in compliance with the many sanctions ordered by Biden with more oligarchic Executive Orders.
These Biden sanctions have also created misery in Europe, along with Biden’s decision on NS- 1 & 2.
So it’s not the government, it’s Biden who promotes democracy but practices oligarchy. . .And does a poor job of it.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 25 2023 22:30 utc | 155

@Neven Acropolis | Feb 25 2023 13:52 utc | 24
The Russians are being so extraordinarily careful not to overstate Ukrainian deaths that they are severely understating the situation. Particularly on casualties. Like the claims about equipment destroyed, these seem to be based on literal body counts (drones taking pictures of the dead). What are not being counted are the Ukrainian wounded, who have an unusual distribution in comparison with other modern wars. This war has very limited small arms and fragmentation wound rate, most of which are survivable with extended modern medical extraction and treatment. Instead, we see very high rates of bariatric injuries, which kills far more people near the detonation, and wounds people away from it, but the wounds tend to kill the victims in 3 to 5 days unless they can be treated with
advanced surgery in modern facilities which Ukraine no longer possesses. This is simply not possible in the Ukraine where the medical infrastructure has long collapsed under the floods of injured, meaning that after triage all but the most trivial injuries are stacked on stretchers to die in the corridors, providing morphine only to the noisiest to preserve supplies.
So instead of the 1:10-17 ratio of killed in action to wounded, where 90% of the injured will survive, typical of modern warfare (e.g. Iraq) resulting in a distribution of deaths as 33% direct combat, 22% non-hostile, 45% indirect combat (died while undergoing transport or treatment), we are seeing WW I like rates of 1:10, less than 20% of the injured will survive in the Ukraine (because of higher ratios of bariatric to other injuries and inadequate medical evacuation and treatment). Assuming the same 22 per 100 killed in accidents (might be higher, Ukrainians tend to be less disciplined, not as well trained, and generally reckless, especially when alcohol or drugs are involved), we are probably seeing a distribution of deaths around 35% direct combat, 25% non-hostile, 45% indirect combat. This is why the Russian claims about Ukrainian casualties should be multiplied by 5 times to calculate the effective Ukrainian death rate rate. In other words, when Russia reports on Ukrainian KIA, of 100, the actual mortality rate is probably 400 to 600.
Similar field rates are happening with Russians, resulting in a ratio very similar to the US in Iraq (but at lower injury rates due to fewer IEDs and more deaths due to higher levels of artillery, mortar and rocket attacks). It should be noted that the US killed 40 Iraqi to every US loss. Extrapolating that statistic off my estimate for Russian dead of 22,000 to date, means that Ukraine would have lost some 880,000 men. When we base it off Russian claims of about 150,000 Ukrainian deaths, that extrapolates to 400,000 to 600,000 deaths. To me, allowing for Ukrainians being far better armed than the Iraqi and the Russians being much less recklessly destructive than the Americans, suggests that the actual Ukrainian death toll is currently between 500,000 and 600,000.

Posted by: Hermit | Feb 25 2023 22:34 utc | 156

@ Scorpion | Feb 25 2023 22:05 utc | 148
“Perhaps the actual war is not that between Ukrainians and Russians in Donbass in both alternative and mainstream news, but between (mainly) western citizens and their own elite class?”
Possibly. Stakeholder globalism envisions a world of weak nation states, states too weak to their protect citizen or state-backed interests, the easier (they assume) to colonize, appropriate or exploit anything the overlord class desires. A global fascist vision attempting to birth itself from the bowels of failing empire, preying upon its host(s) is a feature not an error.

Posted by: suzan | Feb 25 2023 22:35 utc | 157

People need to remember how this started in terms of the military balance. It was and is delusional to think that any amount of western military support could change the outcome, short of the West deploying nukes on the battlefield or a direct NATO intervention (and the latter, as I’ve said many times, has been discounted by numerous war games conducted by NATO itself.)
See here – a nice chart showing how Ukraine was always doomed to lose:
The Russia-Ukraine Military Imbalance
https://www.statista.com/chart/26694/russia-ukraine-military-forces-comparison/
Or this one:
Ukraine has will, but Russia has might: How their military forces match up
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-russia-military-comparison-1.6365115
Martyanov comments today on how American generals seem to have no clue about this:

Daniel Davies, meanwhile, warns.

While it’s no secret that since 2013 I’ve argued – many times (including last month in these pages) – we place too much trust on our generals and turn too blind of an eye when they are proven disastrously wrong. With statements and claims made by a number of retired general officers leading up to Friday’s one-year mark in Russia’s war with Ukraine, however, it is more urgent than ever that the American public take what they say with more than a little skepticism. If our policymakers take the advice of these former high-ranking officers, America may find itself at war with Russia, shocked by a Ukrainian loss – or worst of all: sucked into a nuclear exchange with Russia.

Most American retired generals have been proven disastrously wrong most of the time because they do not know what modern war is and, also, because they never won shit in their lives. Come on, when you apply for credit card, let alone for mortgage, the first thing one checks is your credit history, and this is the right thing to do. What IS credit history of America’s top brass since Vietnam? Larry summarized it very well in his latest:
America’s Delusional Military Fantasy
https://sonar21.com/americas-delusional-military-fantasy/
Somebody needs to explain to Petraeus and Keane and the whole cabal of other political generals from US think tanks that military “history” they studied is not exactly a real one. But then again, with such an “academe” who would blame them for having learned nothing about real war. Or real economy, for that matter.

The Daniel Davis article referenced is here:
Don’t Let Retired Generals Drag America Into the Ukraine War
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/02/dont-let-retired-generals-drag-america-into-the-ukraine-war/

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 25 2023 22:38 utc | 158

are there pockets of popular rage in Germany for the US blowing up the pipeline?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 25 2023 22:39 utc | 159

” are there pockets of popular rage in Germany for the US blowing up the pipeline?
Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 25 2023 22:39 utc | 161 ”
Yes, in the bars drinking over philosophical banter. They’re trying to figure out what happened to their honor and manhood.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Feb 25 2023 22:43 utc | 160

: Possibly. Stakeholder globalism envisions a world of weak nation states, states too weak to their protect citizen or state-backed interests, the easier (they assume) to colonize, appropriate or exploit anything the overlord class desires. A global fascist vision attempting to birth itself from the bowels of failing empire, preying upon its host(s) is a feature not an error.
Posted by: suzan | Feb 25 2023 22:35 utc | 159 ”
As in nations that our currently giving their weapons away slowly for ” Ukraine ” ?

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Feb 25 2023 22:49 utc | 161

@Passerby | Feb 25 2023 21:19 utc | 136 , grunzt | Feb 25 2023 21:29 utc | 139
I was at the demo in Berlin, and the 13,000 are ridiculous. People stood crammed around the area of the tribune around Brandenburger Tor and further west, you could not move, about 5 ppl per sqm, and were in dense crowd though not that crammed til Yitzhak Rabin street junction 550m west.
To give an impression: https://i.imgur.com/qsdoQXe.png This is the area where people stood in dense crowd, approximately. The area north of the Strasse des 17 Juni was blocked by the police, the southern area of Grosser Tiergarten (a park area mainly south of that road) was full of participants.
I think that 50k ppl is a sane estimate, I would not argue about +-5k. The 13k of the police is ridiculous. The Bandera demonstration a day before was hyped to “at least 10 thousand” though it covered an area of about 150m east of Brandenburger Tor, in loose walking. Would that have been true, the peace demo would have had 100k participants 🙂 but the mainstream media faithfully regurgitated the nonsense.

Posted by: aquadraht | Feb 25 2023 22:52 utc | 162

CLEANUP ON AISLE 102—CLEANUP ON AISLE 102

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 25 2023 22:55 utc | 163

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Feb 25 2023 22:29 utc | 154
Uh, well, here they are… YMMV:
https://www.un.org/en/about-us/un-charter/chapter-17

United Nations Charter, Chapter XVII:
Transitional Security Arrangements
Article 106
Pending the coming into force of such special agreements referred to in Article 43 as in the opinion of the Security Council enable it to begin the exercise of its responsibilities under Article 42, the parties to the Four-Nation Declaration, signed at Moscow, 30 October 1943, and France, shall, in accordance with the provisions of paragraph 5 of that Declaration, consult with one another and as occasion requires with other Members of the United Nations with a view to such joint action on behalf of the Organization as may be necessary for the purpose of maintaining international peace and security.
Article 107
Nothing in the present Charter shall invalidate or preclude action, in relation to any state which during the Second World War has been an enemy of any signatory to the present Charter, taken or authorized as a result of that war by the Governments having responsibility for such action.

I call it a huge stretch to suggest that anyone would take these clauses seriously as authorizing the Russian attack on Ukraine.
The Declaration of the Four Nations, referenced therein, is explained here:
Declaration of the Four Nations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_the_Four_Nations
Note that Article 106 refers to “joint action” – that doesn’t mean Russia unilaterally invading Ukraine.
And Article 107 refers to “action…taken or authorized as a result of that war”, meaning WWII. Clearly that does not apply to the present situation.
So I judge the stated claim to be bullshit. Unless the guy making the claim is an international law expert and an expert in the UN Charter, I say kick him to the curb. Note: I am not referring to Dr. George W Oprisko, but to the guy on the Telegram channel making that claim.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 25 2023 22:57 utc | 164

In one of the Telegram channels Vukhledar was described as ‘a heavily-defenced fortress atop a hill’– if that is the case why haven’t several FAB 500 bombs been used to weaken the defence?

Posted by: chet380 | Feb 25 2023 23:06 utc | 165

@ RB 126
Dugin’s piece is pure fantasy Atlantacist bollocks from start to finish. Ibgot to rhe Kenny Everritt moment where he describes the world’s Liberal intellectuals turning a blind eye to Neo Nazism because it wasvlaunched by USUKIS to neo- liberalise Russia ALL IN THE BEST POSSIBLE TASTE.
Pure under the counter Atlantacist fantasy porn . No thanks. In particular I notice that the author totally ignored the fact that the 87 % RoW oppose the weird excesses of liberalism, children given a choice of sex, etc , all.of China, all Christian Africa, all Catholic South America, all Islam. Still Dugin can peep at his Atlantacist porn in his 13 % closet.

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 25 2023 23:07 utc | 166

Stakeholder globalism envisions a world of weak nation states, states too weak to their protect citizen or state-backed interests, the easier (they assume) to colonize, appropriate or exploit anything the overlord class desires. A global fascist vision attempting to birth itself from the bowels of failing empire, preying upon its host(s) is a feature not an error.

Posted by: suzan | Feb 25 2023 22:35 utc | 159
Speaking of ‘preying upon its host(s)’…
1.
https://expose-news.com/2021/10/31/100-percent-of-covid-19-vaccine-deaths-caused-by-just-5-percent-of-the-batches-produced/
2. (more recent)
https://expose-news.com/2023/02/19/cdc-confirms-deadly-covid-vaccine-batche-sent-red-states/
Don’t know this site but comes via Joel Skousen at World Affairs Brief (Argentinian pundit). He’s pretty savvy.
Whether completely accurate or not, the apparently significant differences in various batches has always concerned me and was one of several main reasons why I never considered taking the jab voluntarily. If you don’t know what it is you are consenting to take an informed decision is impossible without which….. In any case, this is the first time I saw any sort of analysis of different outcomes based on different batches. On the surface, this looks pretty alarming. And of course if true and, if one assumes there are related geopolitical dynamics in play in both the pandemic and Ukraine SMO, is just further evidence of how this war is far more than military ops in Ukraine and thus far more than a Russia versus NATO bloc contretemps especially given how the leadership in the US is fully on board with both dynamics and as we all know up to its eyeballs in deceit every step of the way.
If the US were a real country (which it hasn’t been in quite a while) this would be a BLOCKBUSTER story and the authors jailed if proven deceitful or outrage would spark serious, nationwide resistance. Neither will happen of course. Just another ingredient being added into the cognitive dissonance stew we are all simmering in these days….

Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 25 2023 23:09 utc | 167

@130 Vikichka
As I recall the Canazidan regime in 2014 hoisted the blueyellow Ukranazi rag over the parliament building, whatever it’s called, in Ottawa.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 25 2023 23:10 utc | 168

Apologies for my last post. It should be scrubbed. I wasn’t thinking about the request to ignore the covid topic, just about the possible deception in the mix with this as with so much else, plus the way in which – if true – it demonstrates some sort of ongoing attack against citizenry by its leadership classes.

Posted by: Scorpion | Feb 25 2023 23:14 utc | 169

ukro males snatched off the streets , its getting to be so a guy has to carry a grenade in his pocket to go get milk. it only takes fragging a few commisars and they might start sitting at a booth at the mall
Posted by: hankster | Feb 25 2023 21:45 utc | 141
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My understanding is at least have been given quotas, if not made, the threat is they get shipped of to the front, so it’s a bit of a it’s you or me pal aspect too it, if accurate.

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 25 2023 23:16 utc | 170

Posted by: aquadraht | Feb 25 2023 22:52 utc | 164
I was at the demo in Berlin,….
….To give an impression: “>https://i.imgur.com/qsdoQXe.png

Sincerely, kudos to you and your compatriots, aquadraht.
The image you linked is symbolic. Let it be so.

Posted by: Andrew Celestina | Feb 25 2023 23:16 utc | 171

Chet380 says at 167:

“…why haven’t several FAB 500 bombs been used to weaken the defence?”


Jacob Dreizin has discussed the reason why the Russian Aerospace Forces have largely sat out this conflict here:
https://thedreizinreport.com/2023/02/22/russian-air-power-mystery-explained/
This is also in line with the position of those who have held that manned aeroplanes are obsolescent in modern conflicts, unless used against people incapable of fighting back. That Russia neglected drone warfare is something that has been talked about over and over on various fora. It has catching up to do.
(For that matter, Dreizin predicts Ukranazistan won’t be given F16s etc, but will be given heavy combat drones.)

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 25 2023 23:18 utc | 172

Nothing in the present Charter shall invalidate or preclude action, in relation to any state which during the Second World War has been an enemy of any signatory to the present Charter, taken or authorized as a result of that war by the Governments having responsibility for such action.

The clauses referenced are broad enough to drive a tank through….
I imagine the finding stands…..
That is….
The Russians have full authority to pursue and destroy NAZIs where ever and when ever they may be found in those states formerly allied with the Third Reich…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Feb 25 2023 23:22 utc | 173

@ Richard Steven Hack 166
It’s difficult to see how Russiaa could have taken ” joint ” action when the other three parties take the view that Nazism can be used as a tool to force Russia to be a Liberal pawn/ porn under a global 13% new world order headed by son of the Manse Gordon Brown last seen running a right- wing , war-mongering Labour Party which bailed out the 1% global banksters in 2008.
Three wrongs don’t make them right , it names them thrice wrong. As a Muslim , I think Vladimir Putin is 100% right in opposing the spread of Atlantacist Liberal Nazi equal opportunitie tripe. But I think you agree with me on that.

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 25 2023 23:25 utc | 174

I ignore Dreizin the way some people ignore Martyanov. There is zero evidence of a military background, let alone an operational one, in Dreizin and almost everything he says has been said before by other people. He’s a click-baiter, nothing more.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 25 2023 23:25 utc | 175

Posted by: chet380 | Feb 25 2023 23:06 utc | 167
“In one of the Telegram channels Vukhledar was described as ‘a heavily-defenced fortress atop a hill’– if that is the case why haven’t several FAB 500 bombs been used to weaken the defence?”
Much better to take-over a cool well-built fortress for RF use rather than level it into rubble.

Posted by: nathan in WA US | Feb 25 2023 23:26 utc | 176

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Feb 25 2023 23:22 utc | 175
Oh, please. Even a casual reading of those clauses by a layman has absolutely zero to do with the current situation. They are of historical interest only pertaining to the initial formation of the UN and the responsibilities of the founding members resulting from WWII. Absolutely no one in his right mind would try extending those clauses to the present situation, and you will note that Putin, who is a lawyer, never attempted to do so, but instead cited Article 51.
And this, based on some Telegram clown no one knows. Seriously? Stretch much? One would end up looking like Mister Fantastic of the Fantastic Four.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 25 2023 23:31 utc | 177

Amused to note the strict censorship of Ukraine combat vid and pics and reporting is now experiencing blowback.
Even western journalist/stenographers are railing and ranting: “pics, or it isn’t happening”.
[An aside. Astute barflies and other aficionados of non-western sources have long adopted and become proficient with telegram. We’ve sourced and seen images western media will never show. We know the Ukraine horror is very real. ]
Re the rankling under the western yoke of western narrative control, I’d noticed a few rumblings previously. But now it’s “breaking out”.
@Catturd2 (1.4m followers) tweeted last week: [He claims 6million views]:

With every war going all the way back to Vietnam, the press has been heavily integrated with the troops and there’s thousands of hours of live video footage.
In Ukraine, nothing.
We get no footage, no detailed updates, no graphs explaining how the war is going, who has control of what land, etc.
All we get is Biden fake air raid sirens and one famous actor or politician a day happily prancing around Kiev with Zelenskyy with no helmets or body protection offering him 100s of billion of dollars.
Or, Zelenskyy jet setting around the world to walk red carpets, get praised by the global elite, and pose for national magazine covers.
If you question this – you’re called a Putin puppet.
We taxpaying citizens are sick and damn tired of these blatant lies from these evil, globalist worms.
Call us whatever names you want – we know bullshit when we see it.

Now, seemingly simultaneously, similar sentiment is simmering:
@Kylenabecker:
“I am sick and tired of lack of footage of the Ukrainian war. I worked cable news. I am initiated. If it bleeds, it leads. Where is the war footage? Where are the Pulitzer Prize winning photos? This smacks of a scam, and the American people are fed up.
Produce the documentary evidence or STFU already. We’re not sending our sons and daughters to die over a corrupt, undemocratic country’s politics without documentary evidence. We don’t give a crap about your Russian bogeyman. This is not the matter of US national security. So, put up or shut up.
The above tweet quoted by @JulianRoepcke (I couldn’t quickly find it in Becker’s timeline and I’m lazy) https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/1629462203286921217
Roepcke then tweets (in German):
My hairdresser told me today how much she often had to “bite her tongue”. Many customers are sure that “there is no real war” in Ukraine and “Zelenskyj is just making it all up.” They have been “on Putin’s side since day one.”
Various tweeps: (replies to @catturd2, Kyle Becker @kylenabecker and @JulianRoepcke
>There’s zero debating this. Balkans, Gulf War, OEF, OIF……camera crews all over the place and war blasting on the national news daily for years. Then Russia invades Ukraine and its a black hole. We get 2nd or 3rd hand accounts of what is going on and zero video. Something is off.
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker The tweets as a follow up to Becker’s “show me blood, show me bodybags” tweet indicate [IMO] that people who “bought” the Ukraine narrative 1year ago, are no longer convinced.
Further: the disengagement and suspicion about Ukraine is exquisitely timed to allow the U$ to “declare victory and depart” Ukraine.
All things Ukraine (especially biolabs and Biden money laundering) can, and will, be forgotten in a ferocious presidential campaign. ……

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 25 2023 23:31 utc | 178

Posted by: grunzt | Feb 25 2023 21:29 utc | 139
I was there. The number of participants was presumably between 13,000 (legacy media, police – although I overheard a policeman speak of 30.000 people while many were still arriving) and 50.000 (organisers). I generally have never been a huge fan of Schwarzer, and also have my reservations about Wagenknecht, but what they did today was courageous. They are, indeed, fighting against the advance of totalitarianism.

Posted by: Cherrycoke | Feb 25 2023 23:33 utc | 179

Some idiot named Klitschko (post #102) thinks that Hitler (Heidler) is a Jewish surname. The family of Hitler’s alleged grandfather was Roman Catholic, not Jewish.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Georg_Hiedler

Posted by: John Schmeeckle | Feb 25 2023 23:35 utc | 180

B Purkasayast @174
” …This is also in line with the position of those who have held that manned aeroplanes are obsolescent in modern conflicts, unless used against people incapable of fighting back.”.
As it has been reported, all civilians have been evacuated from Vukhledar, it appears there is nothing to deter high altitude bombing.
Thx for the dreizenrepoert link — interesting and valuable info.

Posted by: chet380 | Feb 25 2023 23:36 utc | 181

West of England Andy@138…..”they”, can you be more specific? Just for clarity….fog of war and all.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 25 2023 23:44 utc | 182

Giyane | Feb 25 2023 23:07 utc | 168
Dugin. I am truly sorry for the loss of obviously much loved daughter.
Re his opinions. At the time of Daria’s death, a pic circulated of a much younger Dugin on stage / talk panel alongside a much younger Blinken.
From then, I’ve only viewed Dugin as a western asset. My understanding is he has little credibility in Russia.
@RSH re Dreizin.
Agree.
As this sloSMO progresses I value fewer and fewer “expert” youtubbies or bloggers.
MoA is really among the platinum level information hierarchy. Along with Berletic.
Then the likes of Macgregor, Ritter, McGovern, Larry Johnson, and the substack accounts that are linked here.
@karlof1 should or could do a YouTube. He knows more than any one of the above.
Each of the quality youtubers and bloggers stick to their speciality niche.
Karl is someone who can offer sourced information across the “disciplines” from economics to history to strategy to current issues.
Everyone who links to a researched, well written and well argued piece here, is contributing as much or more than a Dreizin.
Even you, Hack😉

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 25 2023 23:50 utc | 183

Posted by: Klitschko | Feb 25 2023 19:03 utc | 102
Stay away from the brown acid, man.

Posted by: Drinky Crow | Feb 25 2023 23:50 utc | 184

Posted by: Brother Ma | Feb 25 2023 15:30 utc | 49
“I really don’t know what Russia will do if NATO invades Transnistria. We will see.”
Brother Ma, Most likely it will not be long before we see what happens in Transnistria. Regardless of the condition of the ammo there, the Ukrainians are hungry to get their hands on it.
If they lose several hundred troops that have to handles old, dangerous ammo, that is no problem with the Ukrainian military. Just look at what they have already done with so many of their men (16 to 60).

Posted by: young | Feb 25 2023 23:54 utc | 185

John Schmeeckle | Feb 25 2023 23:35 utc | 182
You’re responding to a known and persistent troll.
His post will be deleted by the barowner on due course.
Ignore and focus on the links that are worth noting.
Everyone is experiencing time poverty..spend your time wisely. Ignore the trolls.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 25 2023 23:54 utc | 186

Continuing my answer to the absurd post #102 by klitschko:
Michael Jackson was black. Jesse Jackson was also black. This proves that President Andrew Jackson was also black. And there was a TV series about a black family named Washington. This proves that President Washington was also black, and there has to be some sort of conspiracy to hide these shocking truths.
p.s. Germans have kept detailed vital records for centuries. Using Mormon microfilms of these records, I was able to find the names of all 16 great-grandparents of my immigrant great-grandfather, also named John Schmeeckle:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Schm%C3%BCckle-39#Ancestors

Posted by: John Schmeeckle | Feb 25 2023 23:57 utc | 187

RB @126–
I found Dugin’s essay useful and wouldn’t dismiss it as Giyane @168 does. But then I very lightly skimmed his recap of the SMO’s year-to-date and concentrated on the remained that begins with “The end of the war: Russia’s goals.” In that section, I found myself mostly agreeing with Dugin. For the following section, “Changing the Russian-IR formula: From realism to the conflict of civilizations,” to read it critically one must have read most of Putin’s speeches and have followed developments at the MFA and the changes being made to the educational system and its philosophy, something few are able to do since it’s essentially a fulltime job, and even harder when outside Russia, but still possible since I’ve done so. One major item Dugin fails to mention is the critical interview Putin had with The Financial Times in 2019 when to the shock of his interlocuters he put forth the notion that Liberalism had failed, “Then there’s the modern so-called liberal idea, it has, in my opinion, simply outlived its usefulness.” But in the overall scheme, that’s a small error. The key result is as Dugin says that Putin and much of Russia’s top tier have altered their global and national outlook, but this was done earlier than Dugin espouses as he has apparently not read the 4 February Russia/China Joint Declaration despite its vast importance (I’m constantly amazed that so many have not bothered to read it).
So, as with any position paper, read it closely and critically, while noting those items needing to be reexamined or explored for the first time, Putin’s speeches especially. There are valid points, particularly about the various levels of victory, and the new/old Russian Multiculturalism.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2023 23:58 utc | 188

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 25 2023 23:50 utc | 185
I agree, especially the last sentence. 🙂

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 25 2023 23:59 utc | 189

Posted by: chet380 | Feb 25 2023 23:06 utc | 167
“In one of the Telegram channels Vukhledar was described as ‘a heavily-defenced fortress atop a hill’– if that is the case why haven’t several FAB 500 bombs been used to weaken the defence?”
Much better to take-over a cool well-built fortress for RF use rather than level it into rubble.
Posted by: nathan in WA US | Feb 25 2023 23:26 utc | 178
The Russians seem to have changed tactics, they are now pummeling the place with, amongst other weapons, 200mm (8″) and 240mm (9.5″) mortars targeting the UKr observation/ATGM teams in the upper floors of the buildings. With a length of nearly 1.5m (5′) and a weight of 130 kg (over 280lbs) of which 34 kg (80lb) is the HE payload descending on a ballistic trajectory, the impact must be pretty shattering.

Posted by: JohninMK | Feb 26 2023 0:05 utc | 190

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 25 2023 20:03 utc | 114
Trudeau was speaking to Ukrainians in Toronto and at the beginning of his speech he exclaimed: “Glory to Ukraine!”. However, he heard “Fuck Trudeau” in response.
I can’t find this. I don’t subscribe to telegram and only thing I got was “https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/why-don-t-you-settle-down-prime-minister-trudeau-admonishes-heckler-at-ukraine-event-1.6288980”
Posted by: Calgary Guy | Feb 25 2023 20:11 utc | 117
Yah I seen Trudeau on the ceebeecee today. He angrily denounced Putin as being “weak” and “cowardly”.
I think he even stamped his foot a little.

Posted by: Drinky Crow | Feb 26 2023 0:09 utc | 191

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 25 2023 22:29 utc | 155
Why do you slander Fidel?

Posted by: Drinky Crow | Feb 26 2023 0:26 utc | 192

If anyone was in any doubt that the media coverage of Ukraine issues is biased, then today must have confirmed suspicions.
The UK had no coverage of the Stop the War Coalition at Portland Place demo calling for negotiations and an end to the war, although it covered the Berlin demo well. UK media decided to cover the small demo by pro Ukraine victory people at the Russian embassy in London, with an excuse to do a “Slava Ukraini”, calling for more arms for Ukraine.

Posted by: olaf22 | Feb 26 2023 0:41 utc | 193

Melaleuca @185–
A low bow to your kudos. I once stood in front of classrooms filled with students in the live version of YouTube and was allowed to tutor subjects I’d never taken, medical terminology for example since there wasn’t anyone else available. I can understand Martyanov’s crotchetiness as he is constantly examining those things that cause that reaction. After 100+ times you’d think he’d tire of it and ignore the commonplace as that has become a waste of his time and that of his audience. I’ve noticed I’m becoming more one-tracked, but events have somewhat forced that. I’m actually getting tired of the focus on Russia vs. Outlaw US Empire and want to more fully explore the blossoming Multipolar World and its crucial development dynamic that will make it possible. But to actually do that, I’d need to travel a la Pepe Escobar, and my personal life won’t allow that, never mind the expense. And I’ve examined Substack, too.
So, thanks again Melaleuca and other barflies for the esteem you bestow. It’s easy to become wedded to blogs and online investigating; just remember that there are other enjoyments to experience during our one priceless life while cursing the fact that so many are having their lives wasted so wantonly for a Few Dollars More.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2023 0:47 utc | 194

Oh, please. Even a casual reading of those clauses by a layman has absolutely zero to do with the current situation. They are of historical interest only pertaining to the initial formation of the UN and the responsibilities of the founding members resulting from WWII. Absolutely no one in his right mind would try extending those clauses to the present situation, and you will note that Putin, who is a lawyer, never attempted to do so, but instead cited Article 51.
Says you….
If NATO can get away with unilateral sanctions not approved by the UNSC…
If NATO can blow up Nordstream…. with out approval by UNSC….
Russia can assert a right to eliminate NAZISM in any former Third Reich ally… and anywhere in the FSU…
AND….
NATO be damned…..
Enforced by Russia at gun point….
Same as formerly enforced by NATO…..
SO….
Methinks you protest too much…
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Feb 26 2023 0:56 utc | 195

Angry widows and orphans won’t end this war. Bringing flowers to a tank won’t end this war. Firing on impressment crews won’t end this war.
The neocon warmongers in Washington have conscripted the wealth of the United States in the service of sending Ukrainians to their death, and the war won’t be over until those criminals are brought to trial, punished appropriately, and held in contempt by future generations.

Posted by: Richard Whitney | Feb 26 2023 1:00 utc | 196

From Slavyangrad telegram channel….
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/35064
Pro Ukrainian twitter^
I noticed this guy doesn’t post this stuff on his Telegram anymore. Just to his Twitter and puts a link in telegram.
“🇷🇺 have now captured the majority of Yahidne.”

The jaws are closing….
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Feb 26 2023 1:04 utc | 197

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2023 0:47 utc | 196
“And I’ve examined Substack, too.”
I’m curious as to your opinion of Substack as a platform as compared to places like VK and the like. I’ve only just started on Substack over the past year, but it seems to have potential to grow a readership which could potentially generate an income eventually (with a lot of hard work which I’m probably not capable of.) I’ve also looked at Ghost which can be self-hosted but I’m not ready for that.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 26 2023 1:11 utc | 198

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Feb 26 2023 0:56 utc | 197
I said nothing about what Russia could or should do, let alone the lack of justification of NATO actions. Nor do I care about “international law” or for that matter, law in general. The Russians will do what they have to do, even if that includes a nuclear first strike on the West, and they will be “correct” – by their lights – to do so.
I said there was no valid justification for the Russian SMO in two specific UN Charter clauses. That’s all. There’s no difference between bending those clauses to support bullshit than when NATO does it. That’s hardly a “justification” – it’s just bullshit. Citing it means citing bullshit.
We don’t need any more bullshit in the world. It’s that simple.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 26 2023 1:18 utc | 199

So much for Security through Cooperation…just theatre.
At the OSCE meeting, Western diplomats left the moment the Russian delegation arrived.
This is the level of Western diplomacy — childish, arrogant, and unwilling to even listen to an opposing viewpoint.
This isn’t diplomacy, this is theater.
Video: https://twitter.com/i/status/1629583263059542018

Posted by: Irish | Feb 26 2023 1:36 utc | 200