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February 18, 2023
Ukraine SitRep – Casualty Numbers, Lack Of Tanks, Something Is Up

There is some interesting news on the casualty count in the war in Ukraine.

Ivan Katchanovski translated bits from a Russian language BBC report:

"Based on open sources, the BBC managed to establish the names of 14,709 Russian soldiers who died in the war in Ukraine. Throughout 2022, Russian sources typically reported about 250-300 dead each week. In January, these figures doubled." #Russia 1/

"But in just two weeks in February, the BBC Russian Service, together with Mediazona (recognized as a "foreign agent" in Russia) and a team of volunteers, managed to confirm the names of 1,679 dead, which is five times more than the usual weekly numbers." #Ukraine #ukrainewar 2/

The war started in eighths week of 2022. There were thus 44 weeks in the rest of the year. With 300 dead per week the number of Russians killed until the end of 2022 was 13,200. (These numbers likely included the number of Wagner mercenaries killed but probably not those of the Donbas militia.)

The BBC then counts 2,400 killed in January and 1,700 in February.

The total is thus below 20,000 the number Col. MacGregor and others have estimated for the Russian side. The BBC says it estimates that it only catches half of the dead but gives no sound reason why that would be the case.

The daily losses on the Ukrainian side are much higher. The daily clobber list of the Russian Ministry of Defense mentions about 400 Ukrainians killed every day. This is consistent with the numbers Ukraine's government mentioned last summer and fall.

Over the 358 days of the war the total sums up to about 143,000. The Russian reports do not include the number of those who got killed by the Wagner mercenaries in the Bakhmut area. That number is by likely well above 20,000.

In total the numbers are in the same range that we discussed previously.

I, as well as others who daily read the clobber reports, have noticed changes therein. Since the beginning of the year Russia has focused on countering artillery fire. An earlier Sit Rep mentioned the Penicillin passive artillery detection system that has been newly deployed with great success. Since then Russia reported a daily average of 12 destroyed Ukrainian artillery pieces. (This does not include shorter range mortars.) The number is now much higher than it was last year.

There are other changes one can demonstrate with a few lines from today's report:

Kupyansk direction:

The AFU losses amounted to 80 servicemen, three armoured fighting vehicles, four motor vehicles, one Msta-B howitzer and one Gvozdika self-propelled howitzer.

Krasniy Liman direction:

Over 100 Ukrainian military personnel, two armoured fighting vehicles, two motor vehicles, Akatsiya and Gvozdika self-propelled howitzers, as well as D-20 and D-30 howitzers have been eliminated.

Donetsk direction:

The attack has resulted in the elimination of up to 150 Ukrainian servicemen, five armoured fighting vehicles, three motor vehicles, one Grad MLRS and one Gvozdika self-propelled howitzer.

South Donetsk and Zaporozhye directions:

The enemy suffered losses of over 50 Ukrainian servicemen killed and wounded, four armoured fighting vehicles, two pick-up trucks and one D-20 howitzer.

In Kherson direction, up to 20 Ukrainian servicemen, as well as four Gvozdika self-propelled howitzers have been eliminated.

Next to the 400 killed Ukrainian soldiers the report mentions 14 armored fighting vehicles, 7 motor vehicles and 2 pick-up trucks as destroyed. It mentions zero tanks!!!

It has been like this for the last two weeks or so. Clobber reports that mention killed tanks have now become a rarity. Previously there was usual one tank killed for every two or three armored fighting vehicles. Motor vehicles and pick-up trucks were rarely mentioned.

That no more tanks are seen and killed at the front line might have either of two reasons. Ukraine has run out of tanks that are usable for fighting OR the Ukrainian army has called back all tanks and some armored fighting vehicles to train and equip additional forces for the rumored large counterattack.

I am not sure which is it. But given that before the war started Ukraine had a large number of old tanks in reserve that could be fixed up I presume it is the later reason. This is extremely bad for those who are currently holding the Ukrainian front line. They now lack the maneuverability and fire power for any local counterattacks.

There are other signs that something is up. The Wagner group has bemoaned an acute lack of shell supplies from the Russian army. I do not believe that Russia is running out of shells. But there has been a general reduction in artillery use. A good guess is that the Russian army is building up field reserves for an upcoming big offense that will need a lot of munition.

There are other signs for such an attack. Putin will hold a televised speech on noon February 21. The next day there is a parliament session which could enact any additional legislation that Putin may need. Then there is the Defender of the Fatherland Day on the 23rd plus two additional days of public holiday.

Last week Russia named new commanders for its four military districts. All are young 2 and 3-star generals in their 40s or early 50s. To prove themselves they will likely be aggressive and eager for action.

All together this seems to be a build-up towards some larger action. It would be good for Russia to finish the war before next years presidential election. Whatever is planned might be designed to allow for that.

Comments

The situation now is not much different from last summer, when “experts” missed the preparations for Ukraine’s autumn offensive: it seemed to come out of the blue sky.
Is there anything to learn from six months ago?
Posted by: Marvin | Feb 18 2023 17:28 utc | 16
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…anything to learn?…. Yeah, don’t use stoopid light infantry attacks with pick-up trucks and light armor! Sure, one gains “ground”: a lot of it and quickly, just like the “Charge of the Light Brigade”!.
But once the initial shock of such attacks wears off, the receiving enemy(“I can’t believe how stupid that is!”) recovers and you’re left holding only ground and maybe a few terrified POWs. Now, what are you going to do, as you are essentially cut-off?

Posted by: Garry Owen | Feb 19 2023 0:19 utc | 101

Below is a PBS excerpt from the 1992 Wolfowitz Doctrine (WD) from November 2015. I am using the older PBS version because the Rand Corporation rewrote the original version in 2018, and an original version is hard for “me” to come by because I refuse to pay the NYTs to get their version which was leaked to them in 1992. And still, what the NYTs offers to the public could still be the same Rand version which anyone can read on Wikipedia.
My point hear is not to point out the obvious implications of the WD on countries like Russia, China, Iran, Syria, and other victims of the WD. My point here is that Europe, and particularly Germany, have just been beaten with Uncle Sam’s Big “Wolfowitz” stick, and the question is, will the people accept this beating a bow before their US master, as called for in the WD document, or will they develop a backbone and drive their jellyfish leaders out of Europe alone with the USA and the Wolfowitz Doctrine?
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KEY POINTS/EXCERPTS: From the 1992 Paul Wolfowitz Doctrine.
. The number one objective of U.S. post-Cold War political and military strategy should be preventing the emergence of a rival superpower [and this means any rival power, including Germany and Europe in general -Ed].
“Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival. This is a DOMINATE [emphasis -Ed] consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent ANY [emphasis -Ed] hostile power from dominating a region WHOSE RESORCES [emphasis -Ed] would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate GLOBEL POWER [emphasis -Ed]. These regions include WESTERN EUROPE, [this was removed in the 2018 Rand version, emphasis -Ed] East Asia, the territory of the former Soviet Union, and Southwest Asia.
[T]he U.S must show the leadership necessary to establish and protect a new order that holds the promise of convincing potential competitors that they need not aspire to a greater role or pursue a more aggressive posture to protect their legitimate interests.
[I]n the non-defense areas, we must account sufficiently for the interests of the advanced industrial nations to discourage them from challenging our leadership or seeking to overturn the established political and economic order.
Finally, we must maintain the mechanisms for DETERING GLOBEL COMPETORS [emphasis -Ed] from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role.”
· Another major U.S. objective should be to safeguard U.S. interests and promote American values.
[PBS] According to the draft document, the U.S. should aim “to address sources of regional conflict and instability in such a way as to promote increasing respect for international law, {the US version of international law (RBIO) Ed}, limit international violence, and encourage the spread of democratic forms of government and open economic systems.”]
· If necessary, the United States must be prepared to take UNILATERAL ACTION [emphasis -Ed].
[PBS] There is no mention in the draft document of taking collective action through the United Nations. The document states that coalitions “hold considerable promise for promoting collective action,” but it also states the U.S. “should expect future coalitions to be ad hoc assemblies” formed to deal with a particular crisis [likes a vigilantly possie -Ed] and which may not outlive the resolution of the crisis. The document states that what is most important is “the sense that the world order is ultimately backed by the U.S.” and that “the United States should be postured to act independently [get a rope -Ed] when collective action cannot be orchestrated” or in a crisis that calls for quick response. PBS]
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So, Germany, and Europe in general, were just getting too big for their britches. They were letting cheap gas from Russia go to their heads and their pocketbooks, especially Germany. Germany and France were showing signs of becoming a near peer economic rival, not on the scale of China or Russia of course, but an up-and-coming competitor in fields important to many US corporations. Due to a low-cost and consistent energy supply from Russia, the standard of living in Germany, and most of Europe, was good even while they were producing low-cost and high quality products in competition with the US market.
On 26 September 2022 Uncle Sam put all of Germany and Europe on notice that they are NOT an economic peer with the US, and never will be. They are a to remain a market and a source of labor for US industries, and just like under Feudalism, a source of warm bodies to fill the ranks of the US/NATO military alliance should the US Hegemon require them.
I know, as we all know at MoA, that the leadership of the EU and Germany understand their inferior relationship with the US (certainly now they do if ever there was a doubt), but do the people of the EU and Germany understand that their leaders have surrendered their sovereignty to the US under the banner of the EU and NATO? And what will they do about it?
Can the citizens of Germany still believe that they live in a democracy when their Chancellor, Olaf Scholz, has stood by while a foreign power destroyed their economic future and their energy infrastructure without even a vote or a mention.

Posted by: Ed | Feb 19 2023 0:27 utc | 102

Question for West of England Andy on Feb 18 2023 @ 23:31 88
Don’t want to be off topic or just off but I think I know who Jimmy Savile is. Jimmy Savile – A British Horror Story is on NetFlix which I don’t have. There are a number of YouTube films but I am reading One Nation Under Blackmail by Whitney Webb and he makes two appearances in vol.2. Starmer is in neither book. Jimmy doesn’t sound like my cup of tea but it seems like his story would be quite popular in Hollywood these days if he uses an axe. I started watching The Mayfair Set on YouTube but got bored by the second episode.

Posted by: Quid Me Vexare | Feb 19 2023 0:35 utc | 103

J.f-g.C!!!
https://t.me/zaes_energoatom/1455
Russia found two Ukrainian spies in Zap. nuclear power plant.
Putin personally skinned them and ribbed them with salt.
Ahem. Sorry, wrong window.
Well, Russian occupants soanked them and through out. And that is when the story starts: Ukraine DID NOT allowed their busted spies in!
Those two found some other losers (totally seven devoted Ukrainians) and they somehow survive there between frontlines in some abandoned village, having only snow to eat, drunk and wash with. Day after day they go to Ukrainian check point only to turned back, because they did not proper international travel papers or something like that.
Delicious, just a delicious story!

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 19 2023 0:45 utc | 104

After watching the Munich Security Conference, I am changing my view of what is going on in Ukraine by 360 degrees…
Posted by: Simplicius (NOT 76) | Feb 18 2023 19:59 utc | 48
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When I spin around 360 degrees I end up at the same place. It is all very confusing. Just more of the same. LOL.
But really, what is your point? What about the Munich Security Conference changed your mind 180 degrees? You didn’t say?

Posted by: Ed | Feb 19 2023 0:46 utc | 105

Likklemore | Feb 18 2023 16:58 utc | 10
a lot more to 60 bradleys than running ‘combat load’ thru mechanized infantry school!
us m-2/3 bradley training……
is there a ukie mechanic being trained, or are any of the drivers getting trained to do crew served maintenance???
there is a small mechanic team assigned to each bradley battaion, at the brigade level bradley is serviced by a set of spare parts and several “shops” with lifts and equipment to repair vehicles and issue replacement engines and transmissions… that break regularly! maybe the bradleys get shot up b4 they break down?
at division level is bigger more thorough repair shops and supplies!!
where will the ukes get anything done beyond untrained crews checking oil? maybe the bradleys get shot up b4 they break down?
that and trucks to bring thousands of pounds of fuel to the vehicles, and other truck for ammunition….. maybe the bradleys get shot up b4 they need diesel?
the only anti-tank round for the gun on bradley uses depleted uranium, already warned from russia!
and sending fighter jets to ukraine is a muck bigger logistics deal, and nato.usa do not have spare aprts to give with the planses w/o depleting already low readiness of the 40 odd year old planes kept flying bc f-35 is low readiness and cannot pass tests….
maybe the fighters get shot up b4 they break down?

Posted by: paddy | Feb 19 2023 0:50 utc | 106

nato doesn’t want to negotiate because it’s too easy to keep the war going, 200-400bn per year is nothing.
Now prepare for maximum cringe: “Joe Biden, during his visit to Poland on February 21, will address the Russians”
Posted by: rk | Feb 18 2023 18:35 utc | 28
Well, at least we get some comic relief. Europe is broke, Britain is broke and the U.S. is broke. They can print/counterfeit a lot more of their worthless currency, but with double digit real inflation, Ukraine will require $ Trillions just to keep the lights on.
Replace Western Belligerence with Reason and Diplomacy, and stop the unnecessary deaths of Ukrainians as Europe and the USA beat the drum to send everybody but their biggest War Mongers into the front lines. All Western War Mongers are chicken-shit cowards, each and every one.

Posted by: kupkee | Feb 19 2023 0:52 utc | 107

james #31

ditto your position on the witch.. i have friends in that toronto riding who voted for her – in complete ignorance, i might add..

Perhaps your friends could sample some ivermectin before voting again;)
Really though, Freeland seems a logical Sec Gen of the UN given the caliber of the last few. Either way I wont wish you the best of luck in promoting that POS into the trigger mechanism for our planetary demise.
Me I would prefer to have a Mahatma Gandhi figure with all the compassion, patience and commitment to self development as a representative and spokesperson in NATO and the UN. I believe that will be possible once the current stock of maniacs is evicted.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2023 0:56 utc | 108

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 18 2023 23:31 utc #89
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Don, remember that Hillary was the cookie woman’s boss before Hillery left her position to prepare to run for president. She was supposed to be a shoe-in. The 2014 Maidan coup was planned before Billary left her position as Secretary of State on February 1, 2013.
She was expected to march into office and resume Obama’s role as major war criminal for the US ruling class. The best laid plans of mice and war criminals.

Posted by: Ed | Feb 19 2023 1:02 utc | 109

Kellen Cramer #100

I believe the 257,000 number of dead that Zaluzhny reportedly gave to Milley. That number is the only one from inside people who know.

I seriously doubt any word either those two might utter or are rumored to utter. They are BS
On your next point “And if Ukraine incurs 2 wounded for every dead, then the 800,000 casualty number sounds about right” that may be likely. It certainly points to a severely fractured society emerging from this conflict. A bit like the fractured society that was created to enter into this conflict. There will need to be some mighty nation building efforts undertaken within Ukraine in the years ahead.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2023 1:05 utc | 110

More videos unequivocally proving the Russian attack on Ugledar was a highly orchestrated “feint ” attack, with a highly organized retreat.
https://s4.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Ugledar-5.mp4?_=9
https://s4.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Ugledar-1.mp4?_=5
https://s4.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Ugledar-4.mp4?_=8
https://s4.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Ugledar-3.mp4?_=7

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Feb 19 2023 1:12 utc | 111

@unimperator | Feb 18 2023 20:48 utc | 54
Ursula von der Leyen — check her mother’s family on her wikipedia page, oops, it isn’t listed, which is strange. Ursula descends on her father’s side from South Carolina plantation owners and the biggest slave trader in colonial America. Both of her parents were from families of doctors.
Nazi doctors got hanged at Nuremburg, but not all of them.

Posted by: John Schmeeckle | Feb 19 2023 1:17 utc | 112

Ed @102–
I did some digging. The Doctrine was first titled “the Defense Planning Guidance for 1994—1999” and it was the first draft that was leaked. Subsequent drafts also exist, so it’s easy to get them confused. Here’s a version of the original draft revised for Scooter Libby. The key is the second paragraph in section B which is deleted from the later drafts. Here’s the April 24 version where that section is clearly removed.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 19 2023 1:23 utc | 113

Deplorable Commissar #111
Thanks for trying but those links are going nowhere :/

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2023 1:24 utc | 114

The most effective strategy so far for the Russians… according to cost benefit calculations and disparity in casualties is letting the Ukrainian forces mass withdrawal n artillery range and destroy them. Any drop in Russian rate of fire and then tales of woe from Wagner about lack of munitions is just a deception operation hoping the last reserves will be thrown into the gap….once Kramatorsk is reduced and taken the Ukrainian forces are done… regardless of how many teenage girls they send to the line. With space based surveillance…. massing forces has to be done very very quickly or very very slowly and with much cunning. Watch Odessa

Posted by: Joe | Feb 19 2023 1:27 utc | 115

Here’s an interesting passage from Maria Zakharova’s latest briefing:

On the same day, February 14 this year, the ninth meeting of the Contact Group on “defense” assistance to Ukraine in the Ramstein format was held in Brussels at NATO headquarters (symbolically). Once again, pathetic statements were made about the “inevitable victory” of Kiev, the intention of the Westerners to provide weapons and military equipment. Plans to send heavy tanks to Ukraine have been confirmed. How many of them will go to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and when, remained, however, outside the brackets. The main thing is to speak in slogans. The West can do it. However, the main message of this gathering was the actual order to the regime of V.A. Zelensky to go on a counteroffensive in the coming spring. Apparently, in Brussels, within the framework of the “Ramstein” formula, they considered that there were still citizens of Ukraine – no matter what, no matter how many. From the point of view of Euro-Atlantic thought, it is time to begin to exterminate the last citizens of this country. No decisions were made about any deliveries of aircraft, which is so dreamed of at Bankova. I will tell you more about the NATO Council today.
We drew attention to reports by the Western (and not only) media that Ukraine may organize joint licensed production of shells and other weapons with the UK, as well as about the plans of the Kiev authorities to create similar military enterprises with other NATO countries. It is obvious that behind the pumping of weapons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the acceleration of hostilities is a large Western capital, which is only waiting to “warm its hands” on the conflict. No one cares about the fate of people. It’s always been that way.
The price of such a mercantile policy is the lives of innocent people. Although Kiev allegedly chooses targets for strikes, they are coordinated with the United States and its NATO satellites (this was also stated by US Deputy Secretary of State V. Nuland, the chief designer of the current “happiness” of Ukraine), who do not care that the “targets” are residential areas, schools, hospitals and kindergartens. The well-fed, pocket-sized non-governmental organizations are also silent. They rarely allow themselves to say something, but they immediately get hit on the head from donors and fall silent. Even after that, NATO countries with an innocent look are trying to prove to the world community that they are not a party to the conflict. It’s not clear why? Involvement is maximum. For many years, provocative activities have been conducted, now there is direct leadership of the Kiev regime. There is also a full-fledged bundle: corruption, money, weapons, etc. Everything is connected, but still they are not a party to the conflict. This is the height of cynicism, and most importantly – cowardice to confess to one’s own involvement in crimes committed by the hands of the Ukrainian military.

Characteristically blunt, but still PG-13. And yes, I agree all NATO pukes are cowards.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 19 2023 1:30 utc | 116

” Deplorable Commissar #111
Thanks for trying but those links are going nowhere :/
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2023 1:24 utc | 114 ”
They must be blocked in your country.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Feb 19 2023 1:40 utc | 117

A top analysis b. Milley announcing victory stumped me for a bit till I realized that meant US was leaving. Poor Stoltenberg understands he has been left swinging in the breeze. The Brits will be pissed.
US is off to bigger and better things. War on China. Once the five-eyes Moderna factories are all up and running, bio warfare will come into play. 2025 or before the next president election in ROC?
The province of Taiwan has learned bigtime from Ukraine. US stooges were voted out in local elections.
It will be interesting to see how the US kicks off its next defeat.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2023 1:55 utc | 118

Was Ursula von der Leyen’s grandfather, Carl Albrecht, part of running Ukraine as a slave plantation for Nazi Germany between 1941 and 1943?
https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2022/11/12/ursula-von-der-leyens-nazi-grandfather

Posted by: John Schmeeckle | Feb 19 2023 2:05 utc | 119

Zakharova… US have not yet put a resolution to the UN to classify her tongue as a weapon of mass destruction.
Russia secret weapon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk7l1maHXIU

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2023 2:14 utc | 120

” US is off to bigger and better things. War on China. Once the five-eyes Moderna factories are all up and running, bio warfare will come into play. 2025 or before the next president election in ROC?
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2023 1:55 utc | 118 ”
Out of curiosity, how do you envision the US taking on China while Russia is still functional. Wouldnt they expect Russia to help China like China is helping Russia now ?

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Feb 19 2023 2:28 utc | 121

An F-22, which costs $85,000 an hour to fly, used a $450,000 missile to take down a $12 hobby balloon belonging to the Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade, all so Biden could prove his manhood to Majorie Taylor Greene.

I would like to nominate this USA Brigade for the Scott Ritter wmd destruction medal.
Is there a seconder at the bar?
source: https://t.me/intelslava/44739

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2023 3:08 utc | 122

Deplorable Commissar #117
Such is the life in bunya nut republics.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2023 3:11 utc | 123

# 120 that is hilarious. Wow also very easy on the eye.

Posted by: Dingo | Feb 19 2023 3:17 utc | 124

The Western and US media keep saying that Russia is suffering thousands of casualties and that the Ukrainian army is winning the war. Just sick Orwellian propaganda is what all the American and Western European people get from NYT , CNN, and their ilk. The MSM have to protect the American public from any depiction of violence. Have you ever seen any pictures of the horrific injuries from gun violence? No, because they are censured. People are just too sensitive to see some poor victim with half of their face blown off. They can’t see the little kids in Uvalde Texas all bloodied and lying dead in their classroom. The little dears might have nightmares and have to go through psychotherapy if they saw any blood and guts spilling out. Likewise, the timid Americans can not be shown the murders and gruesome injuries that their overseas wars cause. whoa, they might even decide not to send more arms to the murderous Zelenski regime. No way that the damn Americans, all complicit in mass murder, can be shown the bloody murder that their weapons manufacturers, and War Department commit every day.
I ran into this taboo with one recent video on Youtube. I got a warning, the offending video deleted, and a little picture of a “referee” blowing the whistle on me. I have posted it now to Bit chute.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4Jsg8m8f1aMl/

Posted by: Neal | Feb 19 2023 3:27 utc | 125

What’s the next stop, Cape Cod?

Posted by: daffyDuct | Feb 19 2023 3:29 utc | 126

@Milites | Feb 19 2023 0:01 utc | 96
Perhaps I should have mentioned that most analysts agree. The Battle of the Bulge was a very close thing indeed. The German counteroffensive, which began before dawn on 1944-12-16 bypassed Bastogne (held by the U.S. 101st Airborne Division) and in just 8 days under severe weather managed to advance to within 6km (4 miles) of their objective, the Meuse River when they ran out of fuel due to the combination of weather and Allied air attacks. With the German drive halted, Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery brought his reserves from North in a forced march and barely forestalled the Germans at the
Meuse crossings. Had the Germans not run out of fuel, and had Montgomery not succeeded in intercepting them, the German forces would have split the Allies, as they had the in 1940, and the Western front would almost certainly have been rolled up.

Posted by: Hermit | Feb 19 2023 3:32 utc | 127

” Refugees were also dissatisfied with the fact that most of the children in the local school were black and Asian.
The Ukrainian woman said that she was very worried about herself and her son. He goes to a school that “doesn’t have enough white kids”. As a result, Andrea and her Ukrainian guest decided to terminate the accommodation agreement by mutual consent.
Many Ukrainians are really wary of non-European migrants.
https://strana.news/news/423463-na-chto-zhalujutsja-ukrainskie-bezhentsy-v-britanii.html
Posted by: daffyDuct | Feb 19 2023 3:29 utc | 125 ”
In this regard the Ukrainian’s instincts are absolutely correct. You would get the same reaction from a Russian or any other non-westernized Slav.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Feb 19 2023 3:53 utc | 128

That’s silly.
Sure, with a bit more fuel, Panzers would’ve crushed one US army in the Ardennes, but that wouldn’t have solved their logistics issue and their lack of equipment, tanks and planes included. Besides, the US had plenty of troops available to eventually push back, it would’ve only been a setback, not a crushing defeat that would push the Western allies to negotiate peace. Basically, since reaching the Meuse was only the first step of the lunacy, the real goal being to go all the way to Antwerp and the sea, the whole plan was pure fantasy from the get-go. So, the battle of the Bulge was mostly Hitler wasting away its last reserves instead of building up counter-attacks when US or Red army eventually attacked; sure, it slowed down Western progress for a few weeks, but at the same time ensured that the Wehrmacht wouldn’t be able to resist for long when the final push would happen.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Feb 19 2023 3:54 utc | 129

@ Hermit #126
In your wet dreams.
What logistics train did the German have if they would have gotten further towards Antwerp? Patton’s 3rd Army was to the south and not affected by any breakthrough. They would turned, as they did, 90 degrees and hit the Germans southern flank. How would have the Luftwaffe responded to all the allied fighter bombers going have any German vehicles in the breakthrough one the weather cleared, especially after it got out of the wooded Ardennes? American and British heavy bombers were still pounding the German industrial base. And nothing on the western front would change anything the Russians were doing coming from the east!!
Sorry, December 1944 wasn’t going to be May 1940 no matter how you revision history.

Posted by: DakotaRog | Feb 19 2023 3:59 utc | 130

“Simplicius (NOT 76) | Feb 18 2023 19:59 utc | 48”
360 degrees! Don’t just love Annalena Baerbock! 😘

Posted by: Lubica | Feb 19 2023 4:06 utc | 131

In WW2, the nazis should’ve gone west instead of east.

Posted by: Featherless | Feb 19 2023 4:17 utc | 132

Deplorable Commissar | Feb 19 2023 2:28 utc | 121
I no longer attempt to predict day to day stuff. Yankistan is easy pickings but Russia and China are not.
Zakharova vs Karmilia Harris…. I try to watch some of the American think tank stuff and they are all absorbed in their own greatness. Make the entire world Amerikkka. Idiots firmly marching to Armageddon.
Words like democracy, freedumb, human rights, liberally thrown to cover the blood and guts of destruction.
I have never shot another human, but watching through the scope as the top of a skull flies six meters into the air drives home the devastation of war.
I am Australian as in my username. I lost the plot a bit when an idiot thought the AU part was gold.
We watch as this monty python show roles on. When will the fat lady sing? Bugger the fat lady. The Russian spokeswoman nails it.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2023 4:42 utc | 133

@DakotaRog | Feb 19 2023 3:59 utc | 129
Your mistake. Not “my dreams” but post war war college modelling.
The Germans could have fought until the Soviets took them from the rear, but VE day would have been a little later and the Americans, British and French might be more aware of who should be thanked.
Not that any of it would have been necessary had Churchill never been born.

Posted by: Hermit | Feb 19 2023 4:51 utc | 134

@ Hermit
Sorry, I don’t believe your “war college modelling”. The Germans by that time at almost no logistical train. They surrendered 300,000 soldiers in the Ruhr 4 months later. Rolling up the western front my ass…

Posted by: DakotaRog | Feb 19 2023 5:19 utc | 135

Today I saw a clip of Ukrainian girls dressed for combat riding a bus singing – being sent to the front apparently – and happy to go kill some evil Russians. The untold story of this war is how absolutely and completely brainwashed these people must be. Also can be taken as solid evidence they are running out of men. “To the last Ukrainian.”

Posted by: ArchieP | Feb 19 2023 5:22 utc | 136

I try to watch some of the American think tank stuff and they are all absorbed in their own greatness.
Make the entire world Amerikkka.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 19 2023 4:42 utc | 132
Been missing you lately Peter, hope you’re OK.
No Open Ukraine thread so I’ll put this here for a Sunday morning chuckle that illustrates your comment.
At least this Trudeau gets it. Idiots firmly marching to Armageddon

Posted by: waynorinorway | Feb 19 2023 7:36 utc | 137

#39 Bevin.
Thank you. I had stumbled on Patrick Armstrongs blog just prior to his freezing it. If what you write as the threats he received is true (and to my jaded ear, they ring, peal, loudly as ohmygod absolutely true), it is so much worse than I thought in Canada, where I lived for most of 2000-2017. For all of us who cried when Jack Layton died (and Gordon Downie) it is a sorrowful time.

Posted by: paxmark1 | Feb 19 2023 7:36 utc | 138

@PDakotaRog | Feb 19 2023 5:19 utc | 134
Even after mowing down hundreds of thousands of prisoners, it still took Eisenhower and Winter over 7 months to starve and expose at least 650,000 and probably over a million disarmed German POWs in France to death, So Germany had the manpower and until they surrendered, the weapons and equipment. What they did not have was fuel. However, on 1945-01-01 Germany launched it’s largest air attack on the Allies.
Had they not lost the race to the Meuse, they would have been able to resupply and would likely have taken Antwerp which would have been catastrophic for the Allies as this was their primary supply route. As it was, by the 24th the Germans were already outstripped by the Allies, and it only got worse for them after that.
But really I don’t care what you want to believe.

Posted by: Hermit | Feb 19 2023 7:56 utc | 139

Posted by: Joe | Feb 19 2023 1:27 utc | 115
You may be correct. Hitting the withdrawing forces in the open is always a very good way to extract maximum effect.
There was one report according to which Zaluzhny had advised Zelensky to withdraw from Bakhmut (again), because the fields are turning into mud again and will render the temporary road running through the field (like W/NW) useless. So they will soon be stuck there, with no actual roads left.
The Russians are watching closely, and will hit them if they withdraw. Dima from Military summary claimed that Russians have caused losses to both UAF trying to enter or bring supply to Bakhmut, as well as rotating, reinforcing or withdrawing force to/from Bakhmut. This mornings report that wagner further expanded their area N/NNW of Bakhmut. Although in earlier days, they gave up some territory south of Ivanovske. We’ll see what happens, maybe Bakhmut isn’t the actual focus anymore but multiple points in the south.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 19 2023 8:04 utc | 140

@ Posted by: DakotaRog | Feb 19 2023 5:19 utc | 134
I think where Hermit is coming from is that the Nazis were negotiating with the western side. Offering cooperation to transfer certain high tech manufacturing capabilities by organizing entire factories to be captured intact by the allies. Scientist and blueprints included. Among them technologies and material enabling the USA to finish their nuclear bombs significantly sooner (up to 2 years) then they could have done on their own. Supposedly they provided the infrared precision timed detonators and enough enriched uranium for about 2 bombs. They could have deployed 1 or 2 themselves but they concluded that it wouldn’t change the outcome of the war and would only harm their position after the war.
Those bargaining chips helped secure certain nazi leaders a safe conduct to other parts of the world. Some hotspots were Spain, mainly as a springboard to other areas on the globe. Requiring a network in place to ‘operate the springboard,’ hence their Spanish presence. Some areas where they relocated to were Argentine, Egypt, South Africa and Indonesia.
And also cementing their new relation with their new partners in the USA. Where they soon started to create the ‘4th Reich.’ Using their expertise in running the military industrial complex and intelligence services. And directing the western block against their arch enemy the communists.

Posted by: GoverntheMente | Feb 19 2023 8:08 utc | 141

Regarding Bakhmut
“The Ukrainian channel “Resident” shares a completely cannibalistic insider:
“Our source in the Presidential Office said that Zaluzhny today demanded that Zelensky withdraw troops from Bakhmut, who are on the verge of encirclement, fighting is already underway in Berkhovka.
The Office of the President continues to play for time and demand that more and more reserves be sent to hold the city until Biden speaks.”
They send their own people to the next world for the necessary television picture to the overseas senile.”
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/34099

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 19 2023 8:10 utc | 142

Posted by: A. Pols | Feb 18 2023 16:36 utc | 3

The links to the daily clobber list don’t work.

for me in DE they work ( with yandex DNS server )
URL : https://eng.mil.ru/en/index.htm
Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 18 2023 16:58 utc | 10

b
[.]That no more tanks are seen and killed at the front line might have either of two reasons. Ukraine has run out of tanks that are usable for fighting OR the Ukrainian army has called back all tanks and some armored fighting vehicles to train and equip additional forces for the rumored large counterattack.[.]

your link refers only to IFV
and IFV (and similar) are destroyed daily (ca. 8-10 per day )
the tank-“issue” starts in Jan.
from 18.01.-24.01. none destroyed tank was reported
after that destroyed tanks were reported almost exclusively in Donetsk + Zaporozhye region (ca. 1-2 per day )

Posted by: ghiwen | Feb 19 2023 8:36 utc | 143

Interesting times.
While Russia may not “run out” of shells, the gun barrels have a finite lifespan. Lots of speculation on Russia’s next moves, but I think the biggest change will be aerial interdiction and increased airstrikes.
Poland maybe concentrating in securing the Lviv Oblast. What left of the remaining tanks could be held in these areas to prevent a possible Russian push to cut off resupply lines from the West.
I believe the Russian objectives does not include occupation. The grind is just going to be upscaled until NATO cries out UNCLE!
Putin, bless him, has already given us all the clues. “Everyone should know that, by and large, we haven’t started anything yet in earnest,”

Posted by: Suresh | Feb 19 2023 8:44 utc | 144

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 19 2023 1:30 utc | 116
Thanks for posting Karlof1.
Maria Vladimirovna Zakharova along with Medvedev,consistently demonstrate superior Floor mopping skills.

Posted by: Kim | Feb 19 2023 9:10 utc | 145

@Quid Me Vexare | Feb 19 2023 0:35 utc | 103
Starmer was head of the Crown Prosecution Service when they should have prosecuted Savile for numerous offences, but chose not to. Savile’s interests included paedophilia and necrophilia. The CPS says that the records relating to the decision let Savile off were destroyed due to their data retention policy.

Posted by: Ranelagh | Feb 19 2023 9:16 utc | 146

@Suresh | Feb 19 2023 8:44 utc | 143

I believe the Russian objectives does not include occupation.

For Russia, Ukraine is 404. For the collective west it is 402.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2023 9:17 utc | 147

Posted by: Suresh | Feb 19 2023 8:44 utc | 143
They can opt to use the newly built up forces to multiply UAF attrition rate in Donbass. That’s a lot of new fire power to throw into the mix, while UAF tanks may be hiding somewhere in the west expecting an attack there. When they aren’t in Donbass, they aren’t contributing to ability to any kind of offensive actions.
I’d wager they won’t open a front “far away” which has no synergy to existing front line in Donbass, this means like west of Kiev or from Belarus, but they will do some new front much closer to Donbass, probably on east side of Dnepr, that makes it much more difficult for UAF to hold their lines together. The mobilization machine must be running red hot and burning out in Ukraine, and they need to increasingly rely on Aidar type nazi formations to keep lines together (i.e. people from not leaving positions).

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 19 2023 9:22 utc | 148

Interesting.
I personally would automatically downgrade the Fact free fallacious air fairy poop claims. Made by any Brit poopaganda source as complete airy fairy fiction. Divide the claim figure by 100. Would be much closer to the truth.
The Brit BullSXXX Corporation has been selling fake news and UK gov sewer poopaganda since 1928. The Guardian Trash Toilet paper has sold nothing but lies since 1827. As to why anyone who believes in the toilet paper daily Sewer outflow of fake news from the Guardian. Surely must have a head full of concrete.
Interesting in other news. Under King Rupert, the USSA Murdoch variant is throwing Diktator Little “z” under the number 10 bus. The little princelings of Rupert are still backing Diktator little “z”. Does King Rupert have a communication problem all his little princelings?

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Feb 19 2023 9:29 utc | 149

#148. Straddling both sides of the fence. To be safe.

Posted by: Dingo | Feb 19 2023 9:41 utc | 150

Posted by: Ed | Feb 19 2023 0:27 utc | 102
I refuse to pay the NYTs to get their version which was leaked to them in 1992.
This should be the NYT article of March 8, 1992
https://web.archive.org/web/20081011043105/http://work.colum.edu/~amiller/wolfowitz1992.htm

Posted by: FZappa | Feb 19 2023 9:46 utc | 151

Ranelagh | Feb 19 2023 9:16 utc | 145
“Starmer was head of the Crown Prosecution Service when they should have prosecuted Savile for numerous offences, but chose not to. Savile’s interests included paedophilia and necrophilia. The CPS says that the records relating to the decision let Savile off were destroyed due to their data retention policy.”
Although OT it is worth coming back to later, as Starmer was ALSO responsible when a large number of documents (thousands) relating to Assange were suppressed.
(apologies to b for an OT).

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 19 2023 9:51 utc | 152

I try again…..
https://web.archive.org/web/20081011043105/http://work.colum.edu/~amiller/wolfowitz1992.htm

Posted by: FZappa | Feb 19 2023 9:53 utc | 153

# 150. The torture never stops!

Posted by: Dingo | Feb 19 2023 9:53 utc | 154

Passerby | Feb 18 2023 21:31 utc | 60
Mikhail Khodorkovsky.
Oh come on now. FFS.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2023 10:32 utc | 155

An F-22, which costs $85,000 an hour to fly, used a $450,000 missile to take down a $12 hobby balloon
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2023 3:08 utc | 122
With that money they could have build a school.
Since 1960, the United States has spent 20 million million US$ on war, calling it “defense”.

Posted by: Passerby | Feb 19 2023 11:33 utc | 156

On losses:
The LPR and DPR published their losses until some time time in summer.
The last figures I remember are about 15K casualties for each of them. It is quite obvious that they (and a bit later, Wagner) suffered the most casualties, which is also the reason why the numbers for the regular Russian armed forces are relatively low.

Posted by: Verdant | Feb 19 2023 11:34 utc | 157

Mikhail Khodorkovsky. Oh come on now. FFS.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 19 2023 10:32 utc | 154
Yes. A more plausible newspaper article would have been: “Mikhail Khodorkovsky, billionaire condemned in Russia for fraud, has paid a ghostwriter to write a pamphlet against Putin”. Articles like this go a long way to explain the mindset of some Germans, e.g. the German Foreign Affairs minister. GIGO.

Posted by: Passerby | Feb 19 2023 11:45 utc | 158

@too scents | 35

Guns or butter economics is coming to USA with great force

Guns have always been the greatest force in the US economy — at a near trillion a year. Without a war, it is a deadweight. Therefore, Ukraine!
“Guns makes us powerful; butter only make us fat.” — Hermann Göring.

Posted by: Nomad | Feb 19 2023 11:49 utc | 159

@ Nomad | Feb 19 2023 11:49 utc | 158

Making artillery shells is perfectly inflationary. It is literally lighting money on fire.

Posted by: too scents | Feb 19 2023 11:55 utc | 160

Posted by: Hermit | Feb 19 2023 4:51 utc | 133
‘Your mistake. Not “my dreams” but post war war college modelling’
I’m sure they did, given the entire battle was one of the set-piece engagements that was used to help formulate the NATO doctrine that became Air Land Battle. Interesting fact, Major General Mike Reynolds, who ran the ‘Pied Peiper’ tours for NATO staff officers, dissecting 1st SS’s I’ll-fated drive for the Meuse, in minute detail and wrote the definitive account, The Devil’s Adjutant’ (awful title, fascinating book) had a secret. His focus on this repellant individual, who was a shockingly bad commander, had attempted to do what he was tasked with, driving an armoured division forward, often through enemy forces advancing in the opposite direction. Whereas Peiper’s Rollbahn D led him to a river crossing, Reynold’s would lead him to the relief of Berlin. So, be careful extrapolating studies that re-arranged the facts to suit a pre-written conclusion. My fellow countryman managed to skew how Normandy was seen, by writing a revisionist account of the campaign, which conveniently backed up the NATO doctrine of forward defence.
Finally, saying we’d have won only if, and then blaming your defeat on some critical factor: a) conveniently allows you to forget why you were in that situation in the first place and b) makes your decision to contemplate a particular action, whilst affected by a) particularly foolhardy. It’s akin to a robber saying, ‘if only I’d had a gun when I robbed that home of the gun owner, then I’d have succeeded, not lying here on the sidewalk bleeding.

Posted by: Milites | Feb 19 2023 11:59 utc | 161

Re. Ranelagh on Feb 19 2023 9:16 @ 145 & Stonebird on Feb 19 2023 9:51 @ 151:
Thanks to you both for expanding on Starmer’s role regarding Savile. It seems the only ones who get promoted are the ones that are subservient and controllable.

Posted by: Quid Me Vexare | Feb 19 2023 12:28 utc | 162

Norway wants to produce more gas for years to come

“I told the partners here that we can maintain this level for the next four or five years,” Støre told the Reuters news agency on the sidelines of the Munich Security Conference. Norway increased its production by ten percent last year and now supplies 30 percent of Europe’s gas needs. Germany now also obtains around a third of its requirements from there.
With the expansion of production, the Scandinavian country has contributed to the fact that, despite the lack of Russian gas, there was no gas shortage in Germany this winter.(…)
It is important to invest in renewable energy. “There is a huge energy transformation that we must support.”

What a selfless contribution, thank you so much, Norway. They even transferred €7 billion to Ukraine. The Nordic countries are already exemplary when it comes to switching to renewable energies: Blessed with a large land area and a population of ~10 (Sweden), 6 (Denmark) and 5.5 (Norway) million people, this is of course a huge challenge.

Posted by: Konrad | Feb 19 2023 12:37 utc | 163

TASS, 19 February
“Ukrainian military deals massive blow to Donetsk city center
40 shells from multiple launch rocket systems were fired from the positions of Ukrainian troops in 2 minutes.”
It’s been a year.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Feb 19 2023 13:05 utc | 164

“It seems the only ones who get promoted are the ones that are subservient and controllable”
My take is this what happened with EU “elites” in the 80’s. Those who were corruptible with money were bribed. Others were subdued via Belgian paedo-traps : if after a bourgeois dinner you’re invited to an after-party in a private house, drugged and photographed naked with a 12yo girl net to you, you’re held on a leash forever.
Why do you think the “lone wolf” Marc Dutroux and his boss Michel Nihoul acted so freely for years? For the benefit of whom? The American Deep State who was keen on controlling EU “elites”.

Posted by: Nanker | Feb 19 2023 13:08 utc | 165

Suresh: “While Russia may not “run out” of shells, the gun barrels have a finite lifespan.”
You do not understand how guns work. Barrels of guns can be quickly and repeatedly replaced on the place. I’ve read about the record of an american 8-Inch howitzer unit in vietnam, providing fire support from a remote hill firebase, they constantly replaced the barrel on site. It was also said that the accuracy was precise, and that they also dealt with time-triggered mortars of VC. I forgot the name of the site though.

Posted by: A200 | Feb 19 2023 13:13 utc | 166

@Kellen Cramer | Feb 19 2023 0:18 utc | 100
This is a much better match with my estimate of 450,000 to 600,000 in December, based on the claims of 150,000 KIA. on the battlefield, and my estimate of an injury rate of just two to three times that, because artillery is more deadly than bullets to those in within it’s PoK radius. This does not seem like an exaggeration, or if it is, it is probably not a large exaggeration.

Posted by: Hermit | Feb 19 2023 13:55 utc | 167

@Nanker | Feb 19 2023 13:08 utc | 164
There are persistent reports that Epstein worked for Israeli and American intelligence, and we know that Ghislaine Maxwell’s father worked for, and may have been murdered by Israeli intelligence. We also know that US and European politicians are much more favorable to Israel than their general population. So when asking, cui bono, it would be remiss to leave Israel out of the sex-sting equation.

Posted by: Hermit | Feb 19 2023 14:06 utc | 168

Peru
This is a long, detailed account of what’s going on in Peru, including some history and a bit of insight into Castillo’s administration. Most of the focus, however, is on the mass mobilization. Here are a few of the points made by Clau O’Brien, a Peru-American, interviewed by Jesus Rodriguez, editor of Venezuela’s Orinoco Tribune and a veteran Chavista.
*75% of Peruvians are against the coup regime.
*The resistance is massive and not showing signs of backing down. White rich who control the country are surprised: they thought people were dis-satisfied with Castillo and would allow the coup to take hold. People were unhappy with Castillo’s pandering to the right but their issues are much deeper and structural.
*Repression is bad. O’Brien says she was beat up, soldiers are aiming for the head and upper body, shooting to kill, especially in the south where the peons live and resistance is paralyzing commerce.
*Countries that have shown most support and condemnation of the coup: Cuba, Nicaragua, Honduras, Mexico, Venezuela, Bolivia. Lula has not stepped up as much. Boric is not trusted. Colombia wasn’t mentioned but I think they are good– Petro has surprised many with his actions and courageous positions.
*Lots of retired cops contracting as agent provocoteurs, trying to infiltrate marches, starting fires. They are usually identified quickly but infiltration into organizing groups is big and a problem.
*Total U.S. involvement, ambassador (CIA) Lisa Kenna is running around like crazy, Centcom general Laura Richardson is lusting after the lithium, she wants it bad. (I think she’s lusting after the wrong thing.)
Bottom line, Peru is deadlocked. Peons are standing up and say they will prevail over time. I think they will.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A13mt0JrUGM

Posted by: migueljose | Feb 19 2023 14:25 utc | 169

b, thank you.
Methodically recounting the events which led to this unnecessary war.
This series is something for the history books.

Posted by: CitizenKayne | Feb 19 2023 14:57 utc | 170

huge amount of disinformation in u$$istan.
how to overcome, most of Biden and Harris is propaganda w/o truth

Posted by: paddy | Feb 19 2023 15:03 utc | 171

Posted by: A200 | Feb 19 2023 13:13 utc | 166
~
Yesterday, my wife and I decided to go visit the King’s Mountain battleground for a second time (on the border of NC and SC – Revolutionary War). I betcha the redcoats (whether their actual coats were red or not) wished they had guns with more accuracy after the fact…..and truly, what was Ferguson thinking when he thought he’d teach the folks from the Carolina Hills a message at the top of that lonely atop now called Kings Mountain and was then I think as well….? He must of been a real mother-effer that Ferguson fella, and I think the way his “ending” was reported is innacurate….plus, I’m curious what happened to the one of his “escorts” at the time…..the one who said what outfit he was wearing (further evidence he was a pompous dimwit)….I’m curious what her fate was, but I don’t care that much being she was just a harlot. The other one, his other companion, supposed died early in the battle, and I suspect there is story there – maybe I’ll tell it via supposition.
~
I also think Ferguson was NOT the best shot in the British military at the time and I highly doubt he ever had a potential shot on Washington as was suggested by the film at the museum part of the battlefield – that I suspect was what we refer to as “embellishment” around these hearn parts…..I think that is a bit of “history recreation” after the fact…..but I have no doubt Ferguson was an asshole through and through, and he met his match and his fate when he encroached upon the Carolina family’s living in the hills nearby – moreover, he threatened them, and that sort of thing has consequences. Lastly, the “general” (both of em including Corwallis and that other fella who committed an atrocity in the “Waxhaws”) in Charlotte were apparently under the weather and did not provide any support to the asshole – good I suppose, but the trees at Kings Mountain must wonder….Just like the buffalo do – the american bison.
~
If you want to know more about this history – just look it up yourself, but my wife and I, we walked around the whole battle yesterday, and that was good for her and I. It bought us closer together.
~
BK

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 19 2023 16:19 utc | 172

@ uncle tungsten | Feb 19 2023 0:56 utc | 108
freeland reminds me of the wanker samantha powers, but with more support from behind the scenes – soros i guess and etc – so it is going to be hard to pull her off the stage… i suspect wef is pushing hard for her as well with all their democratic principles in place – NOT!

Posted by: james | Feb 19 2023 18:47 utc | 173

Here is a poem already posted elsewhere…..

Here lets play out….
Nuland comes in and causes a coup that sets Freeland back…
Freeland catches her senses and say we all are free…
Nuland just laughs and goes in for the kill..
freeland calls her uncle and he shoots a zap..
Nuland falls to the matt…she pull freeland down…
and then they both die…
~
good riddance and the fans cheer for a fun match ended fairly.

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 19 2023 19:39 utc | 174

There is a lot to do about Wagner at the moment. The claim that it doesn’t receive new munition has been disputed and may just be a propaganda product.
But there is also the issue of repositioning. Dima on his Military Summary Channel claims that many are repositioned towards the South. He sees them as “storm troopers” who should push the front forward. That is a rather shallow observation that ignores that Wagner only started to advance when it started to use tactical tricks like surprise attacks, surrounding and diversions. Soledar fell because it was surrounded. Not because of house-by-house battles to the bitter end.
Russia has a long history of dumb head-on attacks on the strongpoints of the enemy. We saw it in Mariupol, Popasna and we still see it in Maryinka and Ugledar. Nothing stresses the dumbness better than the fact that Ugledar was attacked without first blocking its access roads. That means heavy fights and heavy losses. What Russia needs is selecting smart officers so that its troops who know more than doing head-on attacks. Stationing Wagners troops in the South will likely put them under traditional officers who will just grind them up in senseless attacks.

Posted by: Wim | Feb 19 2023 21:37 utc | 175

Posted by: Wim | Feb 19 2023 21:37 utc | 175
~
Wow – that reads like a bunch of pointless speculation.
I suspect the real story is different, but there might be clues in what you expressed….just not what you thought they were.

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 19 2023 22:45 utc | 176

@Milites | Feb 19 2023 11:59 utc | 161
“be careful extrapolating studies that re-arranged the facts to suit a pre-written conclusion.”
I always am. That’s why I reserved my opinion and quoted somebody recognized with the benefit of hindsight as an expert by both sides, who put the defeat down to lack of fuel (logistics) which resulted in getting bogged down, losing the benefits of surprise, and suffering bruising attrition.
Machine translation from Wikipedia
Wagener embarked on an officer’s career as a professional soldier and joined the 11th (Prussian) Cavalry Regiment on October 25, 1921 as a cadet . After his promotion to lieutenant in 1924, he became a squadron chief at the 2nd (Prussian) Cavalry Regiment . In 1935 he was promoted to Rittmeister and in 1938 he became a captain and first general staff officer in the 4th light division in Vienna . In 1940 he became a tactics teacher in the General Staff courses in Berlin .
For a short time he was First General Staff Officer (Ia) in the 10th Infantry Division in the western campaign , then from the beginning of 1941 First General Staff Officer of Panzer Group 3. Shortly before the start of the summer offensive in 1942, Wagener, Lieutenant Colonel G., Chief of the General Staff XXXX. tank corps .
For his merits in the subsequent retreats of the corps before Stalingrad , he received the German Cross in Gold on February 20 , 1943 , at the same time he was promoted to Colonel i. G. promoted. In March 1944, Wagener joined General der Panzertruppe Hans-Valentin Hube ‘s 1st Panzer Army as Chief of Staff . The army was formed on March 25, 1944 by Soviet troops in the Kamenets-Podolsk pocket locked in. By April 6, Hube and Wagener managed to break out more than 250 km to the west with the “wandering Hube pocket”, during which around 200,000 of the initially 215,000 soldiers trapped escaped. For this he received the Knight’s Cross of the Iron Cross on May 14, 1944 . On October 1, 1944 he was promoted to major general. Shortly thereafter he became Chief of the General Staff of the 5th Panzer Army to prepare the Ardennes offensive . After the Ardennes offensive, Field Marshal Walter Model appointed him Chief of the General Staff of Army Group B on February 16, 1945appointed. Together with Model, he ensured that their very young and old soldiers were immediately released from the Wehrmacht so that they could return home as civilians.
After the war, Wagener became a bookseller and publicist.
Worth evaluating the Battle of the Bulge Operational Summary of Hitler’s Offensive in the West which provides a conventional Clausowitzian perspective but does not include “fuel starvation” in the German reasons for failure, and only mentions “supply failures” on the American analysis, rather than identifying supplies, and particularly fuel, as the primary cause of the German defeat.
This is rather well addressed in, e.g. Kennedy James L Jr (2000). The Failure Of German Logistics During The Ardennes Offensive Of 1944. Thesis Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. who supports Wagener and the US School of Armor’s perspective that logistical failure particularly fuel played a critical role in the German defeat, not failure by the German Armies or anything done intentionally by the Allies.

Posted by: Hermit | Feb 19 2023 23:58 utc | 177

This is good in respect to some of the discourse regarding the Battle of the Bulge – a foolish effort if there ever was one, but if you want to experience it after the fact in a gaming setting, here is a good game for that:
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4215/one-page-bulge
I played this game the other day most recently with a friend in the neighborhood, and it was fun. We flipped a coin in the beginning to determine who played which side and then we played the game on the fly in the afternoon in Chalotte, NC and it was fun even though we didn’t finish after I had just rolled to 5’s in a row on 2-1 odds as the attacker and taught those Germans a lesson about advancing to quickly, and I think after that I would have swarmed in for the “kill”, but we didn’t have time to finish the game.
I said though to my friend, really, step outside of the “game”, by this time in the war the outcome was known, so the Battle of the Bulge was nothing but a foolish effort to reclaim that already lost.
What a shame it all is, but to re-play the game after the fact, that can be fun assuming one has perspective and realizes it is just a game….not the same as actual young folks, troops in general, and citizen losing their lives for what I ponder?
Oh well – it sure enough is out of my hands, but dimwit diplomats pave the path for loss all around, so begs the question – why would any country want to be represented by blinking diwmits?
That question is rhetorical, because the answer is already evident.
BK

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 20 2023 0:57 utc | 178

Posted by: Hermit | Feb 19 2023 23:58 utc | 177
I did wade through the second article you cited, yes, logistics were a crucial reason for Germany’s defeat, as I guess you could argue for most defeated nations, but lack of fuel was not the key inhibitor. A fact the the author makes clear, citing, in no particular order: Germany’s misreading of Allied troops, the speed of Allied reinforcements and their destruction of crossing points, reliance on horse-drawn transport, poorly trained and equipped troops holding the flanks, the chronic lack of field engineering capacity, poor planning, excessive secrecy and the impact of aerial interdiction. So, my point still stands, give the Germans 10 times the fuel load and they still would have been soundly defeated, it was a case of too little, too late.
I did also notice a little bit of manipulation to fit the central thesis. Peiper’s route was not correct, the furthest point of penetration was just westwards of Stoumont, where he ran into a US roadblock. He had to eventually retreat because the flanks of his penetration were beginning to collapse.
Tooze’s ‘Wages of Destruction’ (2006) shows the Nazi economy was flawed, well before the later-war fuel restrictions and pours cold water on the idea that mobilising women could have helped much. Very interesting book that shows the failure to defeat the UK had fatal ramifications in that it lead to the economically logical Barbarossa, whose prime requisite for success was an economy without the restraints that fettered Germany’s.

Posted by: Milites | Feb 21 2023 18:04 utc | 179