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February 26, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-47

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aristodemos @210–
Thanks for your reply. I wrote that before reading Medvedev’s op/ed I posted on the week in review thread. Under his breath IMO he’s telling the West to grow up.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 27 2023 4:26 utc | 201

Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 27 2023 2:34 utc | 169
Yes. Exactly. Which is why I shared the post/observation.
It was “cope” then, but “sound strategy” now.
Of course.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 27 2023 4:29 utc | 202

Buffalo Ken @162
Maybe the reason the Brits did not allow Polish veterans to march in the victory parade had something to do with a comment made to me back in the 60’s by a Polish veteran. He claimed that his comrades would have secreted live ammunition on their bodies and when they came up towards the viewing stand of mostly British luminaries, they would have loaded their rifles and cut loose.
Reasons apparently being several. One, they were enraged by the sabotage of General Sikorski’s plane. Two, they were also enraged because the Polish uprising as the Russians had arrived at the other side of the Vistula from Warsaw proper and did not advance as under General Bor Komorowski, the Polish National Army was not air-supplied by Allied forces and three, how they were given the most bloody objective on the Gustav Line, an ultimate but delayed victory for the Allies, with incredibly high costs to the Polish forces.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 4:32 utc | 203

Posted by: Longhorn | Feb 27 2023 4:16 utc | 208

I give Putin about 2 more months before some oligarch assassin puts a bullet in his head.

Hard stuff You to mention here as a wild prospective, but “some oligarches” – what those do You mean of their interests today representing, what could be their goals of their interests?
Once more: The “KGB” has left in 1992, Putin-Gov has created it’s own Secret-Intel since than – do you know the name – or the abbreviation?

Posted by: spare_truth | Feb 27 2023 4:44 utc | 204

Bevin @ 185
For your inflammation, old Boy, Perfidious Albion, with some comradely consanguinity with the Paris rooster; Poland was conned by those “friends” into believing that they would have Poland’s back if they maintained their goading of the Germans by messing with the million or so ethnic Germans trapped in that land due to the unfairness of the Versailles outcome.
From various researching I have come to the conclusion that Germany wanted Poland to join them in a war with the USSR and in the same light, wished to be granted a narrow corridor through the Polish Corridor for an Autobahn and a railroad to 95% German “Free City” of Danzig.
As for having Poland’s back, all the Brits and French did was to declare war on Germany and then sit on their asses for some eight months…and more tellingly for the 900 hours of the first Blitzkrieg when Poland’s “true-blue” allies began their Sitzkrieg (sitting war for those not up on WWII history) while the Germans had virtually denuded their Siegfried line of troops during their onslaught on Poland.
BTW, the keen and observant Pilsudski happened to have died many months before the war broke out. Replacing him was one “Smigly” Ridz, who earned his acronym by his cunning and deviousness. “Smigly”, if memory serves, was the Polish equivalent of “Foxy”.
From Pilsudski’s past record, it is not improbable that had he lived longer, he might have acceded to Hitler’s requests…while probably demanding considerable compensation of one sort or another for that corridor through the Corridor…perhaps even an autobahn from Warsaw to Gydinia.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 4:54 utc | 205

Buffalo Ken @214
Me “excuse the Brits” for their disrespect of the Polish veterans??? Perhaps some of the postings from the likes of Longhorn and various other Russophobes have left you in a state of confusion. Current Polish leadership is well beyond ridiculous; but the mostly heroic deeds of the Polish soldiery (perhaps excepting their role in training Zionist terrorists in British occupied Palestine during WWII) will always shine in objective military histories.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 5:14 utc | 206

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 4:54 utc | 218

… As for having Poland’s back, all the Brits and French did was to declare war on Germany and then sit on their asses for some eight months…

Ok so far, that history facts may mostly be true referenced by yours, but what all that “experience” might help us to follow-up the current US-calendar rather than only to understand the background echo more en-detail ?
What shall “we” do now ..? I cannot do anything effectively rather than get a Killer-Command.
Should I go the same for fighting as a Merc going via Poland or UK or via Germany to join there as a next-days victim of my meat-grinder?
I don’t think so, as you might do.
There should be a more Technical Knowledge and an IT-based supported “Crew of Specialists” (COS) beyond of all politically engaged gov-people, IT-Tanks/Thinktanks in an extrafounded crew, that are mostly able to fix any counter-CIA workgroups ongoing the weakend US-Economy having in its focus .. OR not? Where is the Force to do that ..?
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Posted by: spare_truth | Feb 27 2023 5:19 utc | 207

@ Longhorn | Feb 27 2023 4:16 utc | 208
spoken like a true american with his head up his ass… keep on rooting for the cia and friends… it has worked so well in the past!

Posted by: james | Feb 27 2023 5:21 utc | 208

[219]
Pilsudski died 48 months before war broke out in 1939
FDR made agreements with Stalin which led to de-recognition of Polish Government in Exile which had been the Opposition party pre-war
USSR liberated hundreds of British POWs from KZ and Britain wanted them back. Many RAF crews died in Auschwitz which was covered up postwar
Poland was in Stalin’s domain and ceased to exist 1939 when US declared neutrality

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Feb 27 2023 5:23 utc | 209

“In a response to the report, a contractor for Xi’an Bingo told VICE World News the drone maker had no business relationships with Russia. The company declined to comment any further and said it would only accept interviews from domestic media outlets.
“Bingo Intelligent has no commercial contact with Russia,” the company said.”
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 27 2023 3:34 utc | 196
Sure, the company or even the state need not “directly” do business with Russia.
Also, I still wonder whether some kind of transfer of assets deal was made with the Chinese central bank which pay for imports (for the western “sanctioned” assets, that is)?

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 27 2023 5:24 utc | 210

Not only LCDs…
Cucumbers!!! My cucumber cost me $4 yesterday. The usual price is between one and two dollars. I was shocked. I looked online to see what the problem is. Well, two-thirds of cucumbers are grown in China.

Posted by: HelenB | Feb 27 2023 5:24 utc | 211

aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 4:54 utc | 218
Later, sort of a Sitzkrieg (love that term, btw) II took place when Stalin desperately, urgently asked the “Allies” to open up a second front in the Balkans.
Btw, so much Present originated in that banksters’ “Versailles outcome”!

Posted by: Sektion2B | Feb 27 2023 5:30 utc | 212

Posted by: james | Feb 27 2023 5:21 utc | 221

..spoken like a true american with his head up his ass… keep on rooting for the cia and friends… it has worked so well in the past!

That’s a good state so far as long it stands.
But may be careful to state further on that due to Your history ..
Ever heard from the UKR-Blacklist ? This is a girls AD list ..

Posted by: spare_truth | Feb 27 2023 5:44 utc | 213

USA allegedly wasted in a year in Ukraine more than they did over the whole Afghanistan invasion.
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 27 2023 5:48 utc | 214

UkrArmy for retreat from Bakhmut issued 50 litres of diesel fuel for 10 machines.
https://t.me/chub_detection/8004

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 27 2023 6:01 utc | 215

oh but, but… americans can supply lethal stuff to ukraine, but god forbid china does the same, lolol…. in god we trust… i think that is the american thing on the money…not exactly sure what it means… it is hard not to laugh at the stupidity and hypocrisy of this.. it would be a lot easier if so many innocent people weren’t being needlessly killed…

Posted by: james | Feb 27 2023 6:24 utc | 216

A video from three days ago by The Hindustan Times wherein they interview a Russian economics expert who discusses the possibility that China might supply weapons to Russia.
The guy is obviously no military expert, so his comments on the war per se can be ignored, although he does understand that Russia is not in the territory grabbing business. In other respects, he makes what might be valid points.
China’s military transfer to Putin amid war spooks West I Russia Expert Speaks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K10gZXjO2EU
From the description:

61,392 views Streamed live on Feb 23, 2023
Growing evidence of China mulling lethal military aid to Russia has spooked the West. Even since Russian tanks rolled over into Ukraine, China has offered Putin diplomatic support. But had restricted itself from overt military involvement or sending lethal arms. According to reports, the Biden administration is now considering releasing intel showing how China is weighing option to supply weapons to support Russia’s war in Ukraine. Chinese premier Xi Jinping is also expected to visit Russia in March-April. The Ukraine conflict now looks to be escalating to the next level with a confrontation between Russia and China on one side and Ukraine and US-led Nato military alliance on the other. Senior Research Fellow at the Higher School of Economics in Moscow joins Hindustan Times’ Aditi Prasad for details.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 27 2023 7:13 utc | 217

apparently wagner posted on their telegram site the first leopard kill. polish mercs i only saw the thumbnail of the distinctive turret blown off. but anyway its started.

Posted by: hankster | Feb 27 2023 7:19 utc | 218

https://mobile.twitter.com/OlgaBazova/status/1629830364674899968?cxt=HHwWgIC-qZuFqZ4tAAAA
Reminds me of the story from WWII about how one GI nurse cowed a particularly-thuggish Hitler Youth POW by threatening him with a Jewish blood-transfusion.
The Ukrainians seem to’ve reduced themselves and their children to the same primitive savagery.
In only eight years.

Posted by: John Kennard | Feb 27 2023 7:32 utc | 219

Posted by: Longhorn | Feb 27 2023 4:16 utc | 208
Please go back watching CNN.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 27 2023 7:45 utc | 220

Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgIt3MOKp78&t=26s

Posted by: Suresh | Feb 27 2023 7:54 utc | 221

apparently wagner posted on their telegram site the first leopard kill
posted by: hankster | Feb 27 2023 7:19 utc | 232

Nope. It wasn’t a wagner TG. and the head of wagner said this is not true, they have not encountered a leopard tank yet on battlefield, but have seen some being moved to C.Y., said upon them destroying one he would be sure to let people know though.

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 27 2023 8:24 utc | 222

Anyone know why zelensky has sacked the top military commander?

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Feb 27 2023 8:53 utc | 223

military equiptment being transported in postal trucks to hide them.
https://t.me/c/1408780099/9207

Posted by: hankster | Feb 27 2023 9:04 utc | 224

Anyone know why zelensky has sacked the top military commander?
Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Feb 27 2023 8:53 utc | 237

I don’t but I assume he might have allowed some units to pull out of some places of BK, and this is either coordinated for press (rumors were 3 days ago he threatened this for anyone who gave retreat orders or something like that), or Z actually pissed about it (which makes no sense to me, but most things make no sense lately).

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 27 2023 9:11 utc | 225

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Feb 27 2023 8:53 utc | 237
Didn’t Hitler also sack one of his Feldmarschalls due to intensive argument that Hitler should withdraw troops from Stalingrad?

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 27 2023 9:20 utc | 226

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 27 2023 9:20 utc | 240

I don’t recall that specifically (maybe it happened along the way somewhere), I do recall him constantly overruling his generals with regard to that offensive and in a final request to Hitler to allow surrender before Paulus actually surrendered was basically ‘you and the 6th army will hold position to the last man and the last round’ or words to that effect.

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 27 2023 9:34 utc | 227

European officials reportedly pressed Kiev to accept a negotiated settlement on unfavorable terms :
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/13557

Posted by: Trysh | Feb 27 2023 9:55 utc | 228

Didn’t Hitler also sack one of his Feldmarschalls due to intensive argument that Hitler should withdraw troops from Stalingrad?
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 27 2023 9:20 utc | 240
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BTW Did a quick search to jog memory, didn’t turn up to much..but noticed it could be easily confused with:
Hoepner fired after pulling out from Moscow, or Hoth, after losing Kiev, Manstein for loss of AG center( but that was much later, though he was involved in the failed relief effort at Stalingrad). Lots of other fired (and some rehired) along the way though. But I don’t think Hitler got the chance to for those present in Stalingrad (least not Paulus or A.Schmidt) as they were in captivity.

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 27 2023 10:02 utc | 229

“Russia has stopped pipeline oil supplies to Poland – Daniel Obaitek, head of PKN Orlen”
source: https://t.me/intelslava/45175
Was there much remaining flow on that line as it was?

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 27 2023 10:17 utc | 230

European officials reportedly pressed Kiev to accept a negotiated settlement on unfavorable terms :
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/13557
Posted by: Trysh | Feb 27 2023 9:55 utc | 242
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Yesterday: “There will be no truce with Russia in the next 100 years” – Prime Minister of Ukraine
I’m not going to hold my breath with regard to either.

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 27 2023 10:31 utc | 231

“Russia has stopped pipeline oil supplies to Poland – Daniel Obaitek, head of PKN Orlen”
source: https://t.me/intelslava/45175
Was there much remaining flow on that line as it was?
Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 27 2023 10:17 utc | 244

It’s an act of high treason that any oil was being sent to the West at all in the last 12 months.
Normally Putin and most of the clique around him should be facing a firing squad for this and many other actions, the problem is that it is wartime and the last thing that should be allowed is destabilization of that kind — it is what the West wants to happen.
But at some point it may become the worse of the two evils…

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 27 2023 10:31 utc | 232

The Ukrainian telegram channel “Resident” writes:
In the West, they began to warm up the track with the frozen assets of Russia, but they want to spend them not only on the restoration of Ukraine. While our country is suffering enormous losses due to the war and the destruction of critical infrastructure, no one wants to write off or even freeze loans to us, and now they want to share the frozen assets of Russia among themselves.
Former US Treasury Secretary Larry Summers has hinted that the West can now confiscate assets from any country that commits aggression.
In an interview with CNN, he called for the use of frozen Russian assets to help not only Ukraine, but also countries that have suffered economic losses from the Russian invasion.
The loss of state assets could set a “healthy precedent” for other countries engaging in “cross-border aggression,” Summers said.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/35305

Posted by: Down South | Feb 27 2023 10:35 utc | 233

More bullshit from the drive-by concern troll…

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 27 2023 10:37 utc | 234

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1630144000173768704

🇧🇾✈️🇷🇺 Peskov – to the question “about the attack on the airfield near Minsk”: We have nothing to say here. We are talking about the territory of Belarus. Belarus has denied [such reports], there is nothing to add here.

What is there to say…
In real life turning the other cheek usually means you just get hit again and even harder.
Which is what will happen in this case too.
Take a look at this:
https://t.me/notes_veterans/8251

There is information that an attack is being prepared on the Olenya airfield in the Murmansk region.
There is a possibility that they will use a DRG, and not drones.

Recall that strategic bombers were moved to Murmansk because Engels, one of the key strategic nuclear aviation bases, was bombed 3 (three!) times by NATO. And that was the reaction to it — not something that would make sure they would not dare do it again, but turning the other cheek and moving the planes to Murmansk.
But of course that was not going to remain safe for very long.
And either scenario — DRG or a drone — is just absurd to even contemplate. How does an Ukrainian DRG get to Murmansk? And where do drones launch from in that area other than from ships in the Barents Sea or from Norway/Finland, i.e. a direct NATO attack?
Of course there will be no reaction when that base gets hit either.
The rabid Banderite GUR head Budanov, who is the key person behind these attacks on the Ukrainian side, is walking completely safe without a worry in his head that a missile is going to evaporate him any minute, which is of course completely deterring him from plotting further such provocations.
Which means that there will be no reaction all the way to being left with no AWACS planes and strategic bombers, and while the latter are not absolutely vital for nuclear deterrence, the former are critical for repelling a potential massive cruise missile attack.
Meanwhile the whole border region of pre-war Russia has become uninhabitable:
https://t.me/notes_veterans/8264

Valuysky, Volokonovsky, Shebekinsky, Belgorodsky, Borisovsky, Graivoronsky districts were subjected to shelling by the Armed Forces of Ukraine today. Shelling is still going on in some areas.

But that isn’t even acknowledge by the Kremlin fifth columnists, God forbid doing something to stop it…

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 27 2023 10:47 utc | 235

More bullshit from the drive-by concern troll…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 27 2023 10:37 utc | 248

Yes, Stalin should have been selling oil to the Germans deep into 1942 and 1943. That would have saved him the trouble of fighting them east of the Donbass and at Stalingrad.
He absolutely should have done that, and anyone criticizing him for it would have been a concern troll.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 27 2023 10:49 utc | 236

Concern troll bullshit…. What can you do?

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 27 2023 11:04 utc | 237

unimperator – 240
I don’t think he downright fired him, but von Weichs, who was the marshall in charge of Paulus’ push to Stalingrad, told Hitler they had to evacuate the city when Uranus began and the risk of encirclement became obvious, which of course didn’t go well. He was pretty much replaced by Manstein on the spot. Manstein was very good, but he was still human and not a god, and was overviewing human troops, he couldn’t do genuine miracles, so as expected he couldn’t break the encirclement and eventually told Hitler he and Paulus should coordinate attacks from both sides so that the 6th army could break out and most of the soldiers could flee back towards German lines. Hitler, as usual, refused, and the 6th Army eventually surrendered. This time, Hitler didn’t fire Manstein, who basically was the best general he had – having basically fired Guderian after the failure to take Moscow back in 1941.
Zelensky didn’t fire Zalushny, which would’ve been a massive change if not a war-ending decision, but he quite fired one of the top-5 military leaders of the current military hierarchy, a guy who was basically coordinating all the forces involved in the war. What the heck was he thinking? Was he ordering a new offensive and got angry when told it wasn’t the wise thing to do? Was it about evacuating Bakhmut?
Besides, rasputitsa is coming right now, if Strelkov’s and others reports are correct. Meanwhile, there were rumors of Ukraine sending tanks, possibly including the first old Leopards, towards Bakhmut – in which case they’d be sitting ducks as soon as they’re out of the main roads.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Feb 27 2023 11:05 utc | 238

HelenB | Feb 27 2023 5:24 utc | 224
just paid 45 euro cents for a cucumber here in northeastern Italy. Weird you should have to pay so much.

Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 27 2023 11:09 utc | 239

The mood in Russia:
https://t.me/zastavnyii/3234

Well, that is, what is the point of rejoicing in calibers and geraniums over Ukraine when they do not bring any result? Here we are all autumn neighing and boyishly, with tears in our eyes, cackling from explosions in Kyiv, Dnepropetrovsk, from the black night Lvov. Memes were drawn. General Armageddon, look, our pride is about to rip everyone apart. Good morning, crests, do you want a geranium? And what? Where is the promised end of the world? Where is the stone age? Ay! Right now, right now, right on this post, right online, from his freshly loaded sneaker, he is reading about a dozen crests. They have light. They have warmth. They have iron electrified working roads. Hundreds of armored vehicles are also moving in our direction right now. This is called we fucked and finished in a sock.
To the guys who find my fresh rhetoric cissing – I do not propose to cancel the calibrations. I propose to calibrate the front line. To combine in space-time not Russian rockets with quickly restored low-voltage substations, but Russian rockets with Ukrainian Nazis in dugouts and trenches. Is it possible that such a primitive thought occurred only to me? Is this really a problem with an asterisk at the International Mathematics Olympiad?

More:
https://rtvi.com/stories/speczoperacziya-zakonchitsya-kogda-putin-prodemonstriruet-krasnuyu-knopku-polkovnik-aviaczii-viktor-alksnis-o-perspektivah-konflikta-na-ukraine/
Some key quotes:

“The special operation will end when Putin demonstrates the red button.” Aviation Colonel Viktor Alksnis on the prospects for the conflict in Ukraine
[…]
I am very upset by the actions of our aviation in Ukraine. On February 28, that is, literally four days after the start of the special military operation, our General Staff reported that the air defense of Ukraine had been suppressed and Russian aviation had gained air supremacy. In the early days, attempts were indeed made to suppress the air defense of Ukraine, but then, for an unknown reason, this activity was stopped.
Our aviation began to suffer losses. Basically, from the portable anti-aircraft missile systems of the Stinger type delivered to Ukraine (the Stingers themselves have not yet been used). It turned out that we had nothing to oppose to the massive use of MANPADS. It did not work out to use the Syrian version of front-line aviation, our strike aviation – Su-27, Su-35, Su-34 and Su-24.
In Syria, the militants had very few MANPADS. We went there to medium heights – more than 5000 meters, where militants could not reach MANPADS. In Syria, our aviation worked out quite effectively and there were practically no losses. Obviously, based on this Syrian experience, we believed that we would repeat the same thing in Ukraine. But it didn’t work out.
You said that aviation does not fly because air defense is not suppressed. We saw the conflict in Yugoslavia, where the air defense was suppressed. They quickly suppressed air defense during the eastern conflicts, where the Americans operated. Why does Russia have problems with this? Was it really unknown about the state of Ukraine’s air defense? Surely it consists of Russian or Soviet types of air defense.
You are absolutely right. In the initial period of hostilities, Ukraine had a rather weak air defense system. There were a number of Soviet air defense systems there: the famous S-300s, but the first modifications, that is, outdated, made in the 70s, they had rather limited capabilities, and there were Buks. Well, some other means of military air defense.
To make it clear, to suppress air defense, a complex, well-planned operation is needed, when artillery, missile forces, and aviation are involved. In the first days of the military conflict, air defense strikes began, it looked like a large-scale operation, and then, as I said, all this stopped.
Why?
I see it this way: the infantry said that the suppression of air defense is the business of aviation. You are dealing with this problem, we have our own tasks. This situation amazes me, because the commander-in-chief of the Russian Aerospace Forces, General Sergei Surovikin, also led the grouping in Ukraine, and, it would seem, he, as commander-in-chief, had to impose his will and force everyone to use everything at their disposal to destroy Ukrainian air defense. And after that, our aviation would have gone and, with the help of anti-radar missiles, would have destroyed anti-aircraft missile systems.
Yes, the problem of portable air defense systems would remain. But there is already experience here, and our front-line aviation could go to medium altitudes, 5,000 meters and hit objects from there, perhaps with worse accuracy, but it could strike at the operational rear of Ukraine and solve the problem of isolating the combat area.
So what is the reason anyway?
Disunity of actions. Moreover, it is not clear what caused it. Do they really not understand that it is impossible to fight today without aviation? Aviation is one of the most important strike branches of the armed forces, which must ensure air supremacy and, accordingly, then it is already possible to think about the interests of the ground forces and carry out all necessary actions with them.
I served in the Air Force for 25 years and took part in exercises, including those of a strategic plan and scale. As an officer of the headquarters of the Baltic District, I participated in the work of the main headquarters of these exercises. I saw what close interaction there was between aviation, ground forces, sailors. Everyone blew the same tune.
Please open the term – “isolation of the combat area.”
Without the work of aviation, there will be no destruction of infrastructure, and without the destruction of bridges across the Dnieper, railways, transport hubs, and so on, so on, so on, it is impossible to win. And this is the task of aviation. This is called the isolation of the war zone. Simply put, this is a blockade with the help of aviation, which bombs, razes to the ground, all roads, all transport communications and does not allow movement towards the front along them. And even from the front, when the wounded are taken out, the equipment is faulty for repairs.
For the first time in 100 years of recent military conflicts, we do not use aviation to isolate a combat area. It is impossible to do this with calibers alone, and they are not intended for this. This situation, as an aviation man who has devoted his whole life to aviation, is very upsetting for me, and obviously we will have to draw conclusions from what happened.
Without isolating the war zone, our fighters fight the hydra, cut off one head, another grows in its place. Now nothing prevents the enemy from delivering reinforcements, ammunition, military equipment to the front line. In addition, [Ukrainian President Volodymyr] Zelensky and his entourage roam freely almost along the front lines and are not attacked.
[…]
Mopeds, as the people call “Geran-2”, hit the energy infrastructure, how do you assess the effectiveness of these strikes? There is an opinion that it is inhumane to hit substations, civilians suffer.
I am a supporter of strikes against the critical infrastructure of Ukraine. Just to these philanthropists who say “well, how can Russia bomb and shoot, that Russia is causing damage to the civilian population,” I will remind the situation of the Second World War. Did the Americans and the British think about the civilian population of the German cities of Dresden, Hamburg and others? They demolished entire cities, not just military installations.
The USA and England hit the civilian population, they destroyed hundreds of thousands of German civilians. It was a deliberate military operation, which they call such a term as the demoralization of the civilian population of the enemy. They achieved their goals in many ways. We remember the shots of May-April in Berlin, when white flags stick out from all the windows.
In our case, there is a problem with the demoralization of the population. Attacks on infrastructure, on the one hand, seem to be carried out, but on the other hand, the feeling that this is done simply to put a tick: “we hit critical infrastructure” does not leave. The question is, why do we not touch the basis of this critical structure? These are high-voltage lines of 750 kV, on which the energy system of Ukraine rests today.
They feed nuclear power plants.
I’m not saying that nuclear power plants should be bombed, but there is a huge energy infrastructure around them, distribution nodes, transformer substations, and so on. These objects are not hit. We are bombing the energy structure with 350 kilowatts, this is unpleasant, but the energy system works through the use of high-voltage infrastructure.
Some experts believe that we do not want to completely disable the energy system, because then we will not be able to pump gas to Europe. If this is so, then it turns out that the interests of commercial structures, the interests of those who own the ammonia pipe and everything else, are higher than the national interests of Russia. Under such conditions, it is wrong to conduct a military operation. Inconsistency in strikes against critical infrastructure will not lead to good. It’s like the owner who takes pity and does not kill a dying dog so that it does not suffer, while cutting off its tail in pieces.
As for the civilian population, well, we do not carry out carpet strikes on cities. All strikes, as a rule, are of a point nature. Yes, there were accidents, let’s call it friendly fire, when they wanted to bomb transformer substations and a rocket hit a residential building, or a Ukrainian missile shot down this missile, and the debris fell into a residential building.
But we did not want to intentionally inflict damage or strike on the civilian population, unlike Ukraine, which hits several cities without hesitation and in the center, and in shopping centers, and anywhere. And it is she who strikes along the way and at the critical structure. After all, Donetsk has been without water for several months and without electricity all the time. But our peace-loving people are silent about this, just as they were silent when in 2017 Ukraine cut off water from the North Crimean Canal to Crimea, blew up power lines, leaving Crimea without electricity. It was a blockade. For some reason, no one was particularly indignant that it was inhumane.
What is the goal of the US
Ukraine’s goal is to defeat Russia and return to the 1991 borders, but what is the goal of the United States?

In the 18th century, scientists conducted an experiment trying to boil a frog. So, when a frog is thrown into a pot or into a cauldron of boiling water, it immediately jumps out of there. And if you throw a frog into cold water and slowly, slowly raise the temperature of the water, then the frog will sit still and, in the end, will boil alive.
NATO and the US are superior to us in conventional weapons. And we are not in a position to fight the US and NATO with conventional weapons. But Russia today is the only country in the world that can destroy the US, just like the US can destroy Russia. No other country, not China, not Iran, not North Korea, can destroy the United States. And America understands this. They are afraid, and therefore move in small steps.
They raise the degree in the cauldron slowly. Each time delivering more and more advanced modern technology. But they control the scale of deliveries and slightly squeeze them. Ukraine asks, conditionally, for 1,000 units of Bradley, and they give it 200 or 100. And they are watching what Russia will do? Russia is silent. And, well, let’s put the tanks. And Russia is silent. Oh, let’s supply Ukraine with long-range cruise missiles. This is how the United States boils Russia-frog.
We are very much stuck in Ukraine and voices are heard that we may even be defeated if this strange military operation continues in this way, but at the same time the West understands that if Russia really hits the table with its fist like Nikita Khrushchev, then we will have to negotiate .
Should nuclear weapons be used?
Putin needs to do… what?

Today, we see a viscous tactic and constantly closed eyes to the intersection of endless red lines. A la guerre comme à la guerre and, as you know, in special military operations, the weak are beaten.
The West understands that if President Putin slams his fist on the table and really shows the red button, he will say: “Dear gentlemen, our sworn partners, our patience is over. We have been persuading you for 20 years, we have asked you, we have convinced you. You thought it was a sign of our weakness. If anything, then my hand, press the button, will not flinch.
I think that by demonstrating political will and determination to go all the way, we could ease the tension with Ukraine and resolve the conflict, achieving all the goals that Russia wanted.
There is an opinion that the use of tactical nuclear weapons could be a signal to the West
This is the last 384th warning, which will show the West that Russia’s patience has run out, that there will be no more warnings. Let me remind you that in August 1945, when the US used nuclear weapons in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they had two reasons for this. Firstly, to save the lives of their soldiers, because it was about the need to occupy the territory of Japan, and this could lead to heavy fighting. Accordingly, the death of American soldiers. Secondly, to demonstrate to the whole world the presence of this most powerful weapon in the world. And not only to the world, but also to the Soviet Union, so that, as they say, it does not rock the boat.
Today Russia is in the same position as the US was in 1945. We need to save the lives of our soldiers and demonstrate to the US and its allies that we have a club against them and we are ready to use it if necessary. I am convinced that in this situation the West will appreciate the determination and negotiations will immediately begin, and we will get what we want – security guarantees for our country and no military blocs on the border.
I believe that the use of tactical nuclear weapons is indispensable. Let me remind you that a strategic nuclear weapon is a weapon of enormous power that demolishes cities and leaves New York or Washington as a desert, while tactical nuclear weapons are a battlefield weapon of low power with a radius of destruction of a kilometer. Tactical nuclear weapons are designed to destroy bridges, airfields, tunnels, and large transport hubs. But these are the goals we talk about all the time! Separately, I note that I am a categorical opponent of the use of nuclear weapons against cities and large settlements.
A worthy goal is the famous Beskydy Tunnel in the Carpathians, through which 60% of all arms supplies to Ukraine go by rail. In June 2022, we tried to destroy it with the help of “Caliber” – the result is zero. And if one tactical nuclear charge had been thrown there, then this tunnel would no longer exist.
[…]
I will remind you of the famous statement by the head of the Wagner PMC, Yevgeny Prigozhin, who said that there are traitors in the presidential administration. This was unexpected for me, because all the same, Prigozhin is in contact with Putin and has access to the presidential administration, and suddenly such a harsh statement. But I agree with him, we have a party of betrayal. All attempts to reduce it to negotiations are a reflection of those who want to stop hostilities at any cost and quickly come to terms with the defeat of Russia. They want to return the opportunity to go to a London apartment, return to their dacha in Nice, fly freely around the world, have bank accounts. They want to be citizens of the world, and Russia only hinders them.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 27 2023 11:13 utc | 240

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 27 2023 11:13 utc | 255
Main problem with air defenses are they can omit using their own air search radar, which is substituted by data from Nato radars mounted on drones or planes flying on the other side of the border. Doing just a search on the internet finds information that E-3 Sentry radar range for “high altitude” targets is 385 miles (616km). So that means that it’s enough to cover pretty much all of Ukraine, Belarus and the Russian SW airspace (up to Bryansk) from the Black Sea, Romania and Latvia. Without this element, it would be a cakewalk to suppress or destroy all Ukraine air defenses. How would you solve that?

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 27 2023 11:28 utc | 241

Dan of steele no. 254
Lucky to have cucumbers. The UK are now rationing veggies and there are no tomatoes. Blaming it on supply chain/bad weather.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Feb 27 2023 11:32 utc | 242

Knighthawk no. 239
Thankyou and the others for replies. I guess we’ll never know. And really i suppose it doesn’t matter.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Feb 27 2023 11:34 utc | 243

Our source reports that for several days the transfer of units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to Bakhmut / Artemovsk has been reduced. All the main forces are concentrated around the agglomeration.
Most likely, the allowable number from the Office of the President, according to the possible number of prisoners, should be no more than 500 -700 soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It is customary to take almost all important officers out of the possible environment in advance.
The situation is getting worse.

https://t.me/legitimniy/14863

Posted by: Down South | Feb 27 2023 11:34 utc | 244

Main problem with air defenses are they can omit using their own air search radar, which is substituted by data from Nato radars mounted on drones or planes flying on the other side of the border. Doing just a search on the internet finds information that E-3 Sentry radar range for “high altitude” targets is 385 miles (616km). So that means that it’s enough to cover pretty much all of Ukraine, Belarus and the Russian SW airspace (up to Bryansk) from the Black Sea, Romania and Latvia. Without this element, it would be a cakewalk to suppress or destroy all Ukraine air defenses. How would you solve that?
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 27 2023 11:28 utc | 256

Did you actually read even the first few paragraphs?
UA wasn’t yet fully integrated with NATO in the early days, but the SEAD campaign was suddenly stopped after the first 4 days, and that caused a lot of confusion in the ranks. Why? Who? No answer…
But it should be clear that they could have taken care of the whole problem before NATO started intervening.
They didn’t.
And that applies to much of what happened later too.
Weapon transfers could have been blocked from the start. Practically zero effort was made to do that. Again, who is responsible and why?
These aren’t subtle non-obvious mistakes, a 10-year old would identify cutting off weapon supplies as a key objective. And yet…
None of the fiascos from September-November would have happened had that been done. Neither would the front have stalemated. Twice — first in the summer, and then after the Kherson surrender. UA would have been finished by now.
It is extremely hard to look at what happened and to conclude anything else but that the war is being conducted by traitors. It’s either that or some extremely convoluted 15-D chess being played, but the latter becomes harder and harder to rationalize with each successive idiotic self-sabotaging (non-)action.
Worse, you see all sorts of retards in the alternative, pro-RU corner of the internet claiming that this is all part of the master plan to attrite not just UA, but even NATO. Even though that is just absurd.
Who is being attritted if you have a train composition with tanks and SPGs right there in the open at some railway junction and there is no strike against it even though both lower ranking officers and military bloggers are screaming for such a strike? And vice versa, how is not striking it advancing the mission of grinding down AFU?
There is just no conceivable argument to be made that letting equipment make its way to the front unhindered when it can be destroyed long before it gets a chance to kill Russians is the way to go.
Get a grip, FFS.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 27 2023 11:49 utc | 245

More:
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/46253

The center of electronic intelligence of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was hit in the area of Brovary, Kiev region. Also, according to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, in the Khmelnitsky region, a blow was struck at the operational center of special operations “West”.
@epoddubny

Great to see these being hit.
But — how is it possible that these targets are destroyed only now, a year into the war? Meanwhile countless $1M ALCMs were wasted on minor transformers and empty repair shops…
Just incomprehensible…

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 27 2023 12:02 utc | 246

Ukraininan “Insider” again;
after the scandalous publications in the West about the heavy losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the huge military cemeteries in Ukraine, they want to change the method of burying dead soldiers.
The Office of the President demanded that the General Staff initiate a decentralized method of burying the dead military, such an initiative should come from relatives, and bodies without identification should be buried in closed areas for further identification.
In this way, politicians want to limit the growth of military graves, which, with their scale, have begun to frighten Ukrainians and Western experts.

https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/46252

Posted by: Down South | Feb 27 2023 12:04 utc | 247

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 27 2023 11:49 utc | 260
What do you think about this theory ? “There is a sort of gentlemen agreement between the West and some major actors of the RoW to allow the West to refill his empty vault by scamming whoever believes or can be coerced to follow the actual narrative”. What is the interest of those major actors you may ask? Maybe avoid a big crash of the ponzi scheme which will impact them even if they have stopped buying and started selling since some time now, while maintaining world trade active (even if it follows a bumpy road).
You may argue that this cost lots of unrecoverable human lifes, and thus both the West and those actors will bear this sin. However who can foresee the (potential) damage that could result from a global crash of the fiat pyramid?

Posted by: Gilles | Feb 27 2023 12:07 utc | 248

@vysokygovorit writes;
Khokhols have already written off Bakhmut. Now the main task of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is to keep the Orchestra assault units busy as long as possible, so that they do not slam the lid of the cauldron too quickly and enter the operational space, threatening not only Bakhmut, but also Seversk, and possibly Slavyansk.
That is why Zaluzhny used his favorite method, to delay our troops as much as possible by building a “meat wall” against them, made up of recently mobilized territorial defense and units of low combat readiness.
The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine grinded too many excellent parts in the Bakhmut meat grinder. On the one hand, Zaluzhny could be understood. Intelligence showed him that there were almost 2.5 times more Ukrainian troops in the Bakhmut area, in terms of artillery and armored combat vehicles almost parity, hence the dashing self-confidence of the Ukrainian command that Bakhmut would not only not be surrendered, but that under him Russia would receive a heavy defeat. And the realization of the mistake came when the regular Ukrainian units, bleeding, one by one, were withdrawn to restore their combat capability.
The best infantry in the world, the musicians of the Orchestra, have shown that even the most objective intelligence does not necessarily mean victory.
Now Bakhmut may well become a household name, as Berezina used to be.
A name referring to the conveyor of death.

https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/46255

Posted by: Down South | Feb 27 2023 12:09 utc | 249

Posted by: Gilles | Feb 27 2023 12:07 utc | 263

That falls in the “the Kremlin is run by fifth columnists and traitors” category

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 27 2023 12:09 utc | 250

Richard Steven Hack | Feb 27 2023 11:04 utc | 252

Concern troll bullshit…. What can you do?

Ignore it.

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Feb 27 2023 12:09 utc | 251

PMR situation:
https://t.me/rybar/44034

Rybar
🇲🇩🇷🇺🇺🇦 Situation around Pridnestrovie
Situation as of February 27, 2023 at 14.00
🔻On the border of the Odessa region and the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic (PMR), the situation is still tense. Ukrainian formations were deployed along the territory with the PMR and set up tent camps for units.
▪️From the environs of Odessa and the Nikolaev region, additional personnel of an unidentified formation were transferred. Now at least one battalion with armored vehicles is located 40 kilometers from Kolbasna .
▪️For the first time in recent months, a satellite constellation of NATO countries has filmed Russian army facilities in Dubossary , Krasnaya Gorka and Vladimirovka in Transnistria. Eight photographs were taken , while during last year’s escalation, only the situation in Kolbasna was monitored.
▪️To the north of the village of Kolbasna, reconnaissance groups of foreign mercenaries, mainly from citizens of English-speaking states, are actively operating. DRG conduct air reconnaissance of the Russian peacekeeping contingent in the PMR.
🔻More and more Ukrainian formations are being pulled to the border with the PMR, and the intelligence of Western countries is using a satellite constellation to assess the capabilities of the Russian garrison in Transnistria.
At the moment, there are no prerequisites for a partial de-escalation . By all indications, the Ukrainian command, under pressure from foreign curators, is preparing a military operation in the PMR.
▪️At the same time, the organs of information and psychological operations of Ukraine carry out mass disinformation of the PMR population in local chats.
They spread information about the need to revise relations with Russia and try to popularize the image of Ukraine in the eyes of Pridnestrovians.
▪️The reason for the attack is the opportunity to get rid of the Russian contingent in Transnistria once and for all and, along the way, to solve the issue of shell hunger – in warehouses in Kolbasna there are stocks of ammunition for arming Soviet models.
▪️In addition, this will make it possible to prick Russia in a region where it will be extremely difficult for it to protect its own population. We have already said that in the current configuration, the only adequate response would be the use of tactical nuclear weapons on an uninhabited area as a deterrent.
Of course, you can destroy the Odessa port and all the ships going there, and hope for a positive outcome. However, the attack on Transnistria will not stop this in any way.
🔻Western “partners” are trying with all their might to provoke the Russian leadership into a radical response, since for them such a scenario would be the most acceptable option for the development of the Ukrainian conflict.

This is what happens when you make a mockery of red lines.
You are maneuvered into a situation in which you either have to use nukes or have half a million of your own people slaughtered. Who could have guessed that allowing creeping escalation will get you to that point? It was sooooooo impossible to foresee…
Something tells me the Kremlin will once again choose to sacrifice Russians, but as the old saying goes, if you are faced with the choice between war and shame, and you choose shame, you will get the war not too long after regardless.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 27 2023 12:13 utc | 252

Have a bad feeling that Russia has blown/is blowing this and as stated in 266, the only way out now may be ssomething along the lines of the use of a nuclear weapon in an uninhabited area.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Feb 27 2023 12:25 utc | 253

Insight into secret accommodation
Volodimir Zelenskiy shows his wartime home for the first time
For the first time since the outbreak of war, Ukrainian President Volodimir Zelensky (45) has provided a glimpse of his home. The occasion was the first anniversary of the Ukrainian war.
Published: 02/26/2023 at 18:43
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Updated: 02/26/2023 at 18:44
Flowered bedspread, a walk-in closet and lots of closet in olive green: Ukrainian President Volodimir Zelensky (45) showed TV journalists the temporary accommodation where he says he has been living since the war began.
“This is essentially where I live,” Zelensky says in the film by journalist Dmytro Komarov, 39, broadcast Friday by Ukrainian TV’s 1+1 channel. He also said he was there when the Russian attack on Ukraine began on Feb. 24, 2022.
“I’m not wearing any suits at the moment”
The windows of the makeshift shelter are covered with thick curtains. Pillows and a flowered bedspread lie on the single bed. Also visible are a television, a chair and a desk.
Zelensky also shows the camera team his walk-in closet. On the rack hang many jackets in olive green and camouflage, on the floor are military boots. These are his “normal clothes,” says the Ukrainian president. “I’m not wearing suits right now.”
But then he does pull out a suit from the left corner of the closet – wrapped in foil and fresh from the cleaners. “This suit is a symbol that the war will soon end and victory will come,” Zelenskiy says in the film.
Villa in Italy allegedly rented to Russians
Since the outbreak of the war, the politician and former actor has lived in modest circumstances. At times, rumors made the rounds on social media that Zelenskiy was a billionaire. Forbes magazine, on the other hand, estimates his fortune at around $20 million.
The Ukrainian president also owns a villa in the Tuscan seaside resort of Forte dei Marmi. According to the Slidstvo investigative platform, he and his wife Olena are said to have purchased the villa in 2017 for 3.8 million euros. The property has 15 rooms and a pool.
and here is the link with film: Zelenskiy shows his home: “So this is the president’s bed?”(00:57)
https://www.blick.ch/ausland/einblick-in-geheim-unterkunft-wolodimir-selenski-zeigt-erstmals-sein-kriegszuhause-id18352254.html
Translated with http://www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Posted by: BonfireNight | Feb 27 2023 12:32 utc | 254

Have a bad feeling that Russia has blown/is blowing this and as stated in 266, the only way out now may be ssomething along the lines of the use of a nuclear weapon in an uninhabited area.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Feb 27 2023 12:25 utc | 268

The tunnel under the Carpathian Mountains is indeed an ideal target. It is in a remote area, there will be at most double digit civilian casualties if done at the right time.
And it will both demonstrate seriousness about the war and about stopping weapon transfers — it is through it that all the deliveries from Southern Europe come from.
But, this is the current Kremlin we are talking about…

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 27 2023 12:40 utc | 255

Colleagues are right inside that the Office of the President wants to stop the topic of heavy losses / cemeteries of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. This causes enormous moral damage to society, provoking fear.
Our source indicates that Bankovaya wants to launch the thesis that these are not only the graves of soldiers, where flags are flying, but also ordinary citizens. This should blur the message about the heavy losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

https://t.me/legitimniy/14864

Posted by: Down South | Feb 27 2023 12:44 utc | 256

reply to 262
I haven’t seen anyone bring up the idea that decapitated corpses in Ukraine lines might be ordinary soldiers. The government may want them unidentified to avoid payments or controversies involving protest and overflowing cemetaries

Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 27 2023 13:07 utc | 257

The germans were happy to slander us for being a bunch of arrogant warmongers, but now that that arrogant warmongering has inevitably caused a conflict with Russia, germany begs us to save them. It’s pathetic, really.

Posted by: boring af | Feb 27 2023 13:13 utc | 258

Ignore it.
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Feb 27 2023 12:09 utc | 266
You know I wish I could write it _all_ off so easily, but at least _some_ things I can’t so easily.

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 27 2023 13:19 utc | 259

Man and his wife try to film the Mobilization units hunting him down. Police arrived and instead of helping the citizen joins in. He says I need to call the real police not you!
https://twitter.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1630095851753275395
“There are no mobilization in Ukraine, only rebuilding of reserves”. -Zelensky

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 27 2023 13:40 utc | 260

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 27 2023 10:31 utc | 245

Yesterday: “There will be no truce with Russia in the next 100 years”

Nothing new.
There has been no truce with Russia for the last 100 years.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 27 2023 13:54 utc | 261

knighthawk | Feb 27 2023 13:19 utc | 274

You know I wish I could write it _all_ off so easily, but at least _some_ things I can’t so easily.

Haeres nequiquam caeno cupiens evellere plantam.

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Feb 27 2023 14:11 utc | 262

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 27 2023 10:49 utc | 250
You have been lambasted here by many , and called a “concern -troll” as if being concerned makes one “bad”
A paid-info warrior you may be, yet you may in fact just be a guy who notices things ,and speaks about them ,maybe too much for other posters’ liking . That latter possibility doesn’t make you a bad person , it just may make you uncomfortable to read, for others here ,who may be overly -positive and who cant cope with information that goes against their thoughts and hopes. Cognitive dissonance?
I personally don’t care if you are a paid – saboteur, pro -ukie ideologue who wants to sow dissent or just a guy who has unexplained concerns …like me.
The fact is ,that you raise many excellent points , and that speaks for itself. So keep at it , and if you are a paid saboteur or pro ukie- ideologue, well too bad. If the points you raise are factual , and I believe they are , then Russia should smarten up or go home. You belng allowed to raise points or not , is not going to win the war or not for Russia, so unless this site is now just a pro -Russia ,Pro putin site designed to keep up morale, you should be allowed to stay and state your case. You can be pro Russia and pro putin , and still notice things and ask questions that need answering…I am.
I just wanted you to know all the above.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Feb 27 2023 14:30 utc | 263

Things I found out today:
“Moldovan” president Maia Sandu is a Romanian citizen.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 27 2023 0:18 utc
She’s also apparently a globalist puppet of the WEF.

Posted by: Cond Zero | Feb 27 2023 14:30 utc | 264

ThusspakeZarathustra | Feb 27 2023 11:32 utc | 257
We do have veggies, but a combination of high fuel prices caused by our suicidal anti-Russia policy and also cold weather in Southern Europe are making for a shortage of tomatoes in particular. Growers can’t afford to heat their greenhouses.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Feb 27 2023 14:31 utc | 265

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Feb 27 2023 14:11 utc | 277
I suppose I get the drift of that, assuming the translator got it right.

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 27 2023 14:34 utc | 266

Didn’t Hitler also sack one of his Feldmarschalls due to intensive argument that Hitler should withdraw troops from Stalingrad?
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 27 2023 9:20 utc | 240

No. General Paulus requested permission for a withdrawal from Stalingrad as the situation was hopeless. Hitler’s response was to promote Paulus to Field Marshall, together with the comment that no German Field Marshall had ever surrendered – in other words an implicit order to fight to the death. Paulus surrendered to Soviet forces. Despite British propaganda climing Paulus was seriously wounded or even in a coma at the time of being taken prisoner, he was 100% intact, no injury, not even a scratch, as can be seen from Soviet archive film showing him calmly walking to meet the Soviet commander for the start of his interrogation.

Posted by: BM | Feb 27 2023 14:40 utc | 267

@ Arch Bungle | Feb 27 2023 13:54 utc | 276

There has been no truce with Russia for the last 100 years.

Er, at the very least, 106 years ?
Always read yer posts. Cheers & salut!
@ Shadowbanned – All

NATO and the US are superior to us (RF) in conventional weapons. And we (RF) are not in a position to fight the US and NATO with conventional weapons.

Ho ho ho. Such, ‘credibility’, not. LOL
Zero engagement, abuse & dismissal of any & all posters who raise informed valid points re serial extra-ordinary statements/assertions/CONCERN ?
Relentless spamming Psyops concern troll with a drawer full of ‘socks’ for periodic ‘supportive’ affirmational fly-by posts.
So cringe-worthy posting, to yourself, over & over again.

Get a grip, FFS.

LOL. Perhaps, loosen yours ? 😉
So, Shadowbanned, ‘all posts’, ‘all threads’, essentially, recurring, on a perpetual loop, a succinct executive summary ?:

Nuke ’em all to hell! Everyone. Kill. Kill ’em. Kill ’em All. Everywhere. Dog will sort’em out, or not. It’s the only way to be sure. The Nazi way.
‘Cause … ‘Moskals’ are stupid treacherous traitorous corrupt incompetent, ‘Orcs’.

Right ?
Qui Bono ?
Yet, OUN-B Nazi’s are done fer, beyond salvaging, US/NATO is quivering in their little booties, late stage Empire is in demonstrable terminal decline, probably facing an eventual formal RF/PRC/+ ‘Alliance’. Defeat & collapse, ironically triggered by it’s own deluded hubris, actions, conduct & overreach.
Shadowbanned & your ‘socks’ ? Far queue.
@ Brother Ma | Feb 27 2023 14:30 utc | 278
Unsurprising … ‘take’.

Posted by: Outraged | Feb 27 2023 14:45 utc | 268

Defeat & collapse, ironically triggered by it’s own deluded hubris, actions, conduct & overreach.

Posted by: Outraged | Feb 27 2023 14:45 utc | 283
I find it completely predictable, with plenty of precedent too. I’ve been waiting since Raygun got selected, pleased that I lived to see it.
Once you go down Jingo Road, there is only one destination. And we just love Jingo Road, don’t we?
Thank you for all you do.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 27 2023 15:13 utc | 269

Known as the ‘Dark Triad’, these traits include psychopathy, narcissism and Machiavellianism.
The research suggests that people who are relatively short may engage in antagonistic behaviours in an attempt to offset their height disadvantage.
‘Shorter people, especially those who wish they were taller, are more characterised by traits that are likely to make them show-off, be confrontational, and interested in power,’ said lead author Peter K. Jonason, of the University of Padua in Italy.
how tall is (z) Elenskiy?

Posted by: Jo | Feb 27 2023 15:15 utc | 270

I wanted to point you to the site which diverged from The dyeing Saker which became useless, his right hand. There is an excellent overview by AHH on connection between Africa and the rest of the world and the Russia. Check it out. Anyway The Saker has became useless since a while, good riddance and good luck.
The Global south.co

Posted by: stranger | Feb 27 2023 15:25 utc | 271

Has anybody here been able to find anything substantive or definitive about a reported sabotage attack at the Machulishchi military air base in Belarus?
All the reports I can see lead back to Ukrainska Pravda or the Dutch-based Moscow Times; neither source fills me with confidence.
The only Russian response I have seen basically boils down to “Nothing to do with us, speak to Belarus”.
Even the BBC haven’t got the story on the front page of their website, it’s buried away in their ’War in Ukraine’ sub-thread and has the caveat:

However, it is not possible to confirm the opposition’s account of what happened.

The opposition they refer to is this outfit: https://bypol.org/en/ which describes itself as “A union of Belarusian security officers”. Further down their webpage is this gem:

Our associates are located in Belarus as well as other countries (Poland,
Lithuania, Estonia, Ukraine, the USA, Sweden, Australia, Belgium, Germany,
Georgia, Israel, Ireland, Italy, Canada, Cyprus, Russia, Slovakia, Montenegro).

Hmmm…

Posted by: West of England Andy | Feb 27 2023 15:28 utc | 272

Posted by: West of England Andy | Feb 27 2023 15:28 utc | 287
No. For now I’ll buy the denials, as I do denials about that supposed borderpost shooting, unless proof or something at least resembling it, of either surfaces.

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 27 2023 15:30 utc | 273

@ West of England Andy | Feb 27 2023 15:28 utc | 287
No credible corroboration/confirmation seen so far. Probable element of a Ukie ongoing Psyop/Propaganda to discombobulate Belarus leadership, distract from Bahkmut & other inconvenient events/coverage, boost morale, doesn’t appear to be linked in to co-ordinated overarching centrally controlled Empire narrative, IMV.
@ Bemildred | Feb 27 2023 15:13 utc | 284
Likewise. Right back at ya. Cheers.

Posted by: Outraged | Feb 27 2023 15:49 utc | 274

Posted by: West of England Andy | Feb 27 2023 15:28 utc | 287
I’m in agreement with Knighthawk. Although lacking any impartial, neutral media, we’re left to reading tea leaves and circumstantial evidence.
For one thing, the timing smells of a desperate attempt to change the subject away from the developing fiasco for Ukraine in Bakhmut. For another, the Ukrainian Pravda is the only source and obviously a propaganda organ for the state. They have zero credibility so ignoring them by default is a reasonable stance.

Posted by: Chris | Feb 27 2023 15:50 utc | 275

More tittle-tattle – gossip
More than 100,000 pancakes for the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were prepared simultaneously in different cities of Ukraine
In the capital, during the charity event “Thanksgiving Pancakes”, a Ukrainian record was set: “The largest number of pancakes for the Armed Forces” – 100,359 pieces, which were later delivered to hospital staff in 41 medical institutions of Ukraine, as well as to the front-line defenders.
As Yuliya Yarmolenko, member of the Kyiv City Council, noted, several thousand volunteers joined the charity initiative, which together baked pancakes for the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Later, the pancakes were delivered to stationary soldiers in 41 medical institutions of Ukraine from Kramatorsk to Uzhgorod, as well as to front-line defenders. We feel real strength in our unit, because only together we can do everything and more! Right now Ukrainian defenders need as much as possible our care, home comfort and warmth of hands of real Ukrainian defenders,” said Yuliya Yarmolenko.
The MP added that a count is currently underway to set another Ukrainian record – “The largest number of volunteers who participated in the event.”
According to Yaroslav Fedorenko, a member of the Kyiv City Council, Thanksgiving pancakes were a testament to the caring and support of Ukrainian defenders.
“Representatives of Kyiv businesses, local communities, preschools, schools, and higher vocational schools from all over Ukraine worked non-stop to prepare pancakes to thank the soldiers. Thank you to all the volunteers who joined the initiative and contributed to its implementation. Doing good together is easy! Ukrainians are a great nation, and we support each other and especially those who defend the independence of our state under war conditions with weapons in hand,” added Yaroslav Fedorenko.
27.2.2023
Source: https://kmr.gov.ua/

Posted by: BonfireNight | Feb 27 2023 15:55 utc | 276

Shadowbaned @261
What is it with you? You come on like a dill pickle even when the Russian Military accomplishes a worthwhile action. Sour, sour, sour…that is your M.O. A bit of balance would be greatly appreciated by most observers with some level of objectivity.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 15:58 utc | 277

Posted by: West of England Andy | Feb 27 2023 15:28 utc | 287
Not really any substantiative source. I can only tell that it’s the goal for Ukraine to create a provocation to drag a provocation, which USA and Poland could use to send their troops to Ukraine. In this sense, they will use psyops to do it if they can. Everywhere you look, only psyops and lies. Same with PMR.
Regarding PMR: Dima on Military summary said that Zelensky might order an invasion if/when Bakhmut falls. They think it’ll be an easy victory and boost morale immediately after the loss of Bakhmut, and therefore they wouldn’t do it before (so as not to immediately “lose” the morale “bonus”).

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 27 2023 16:01 utc | 278

Gilles @263
In my opinion the world inflationary ballooning of the old pyramid scheme needs to come to a halt ASAP. Under current reality it only metastasizes steadily. To be sure people leading false, consumerist lifestyles will be disincommodated. Here in the ruptured republic, during the early 20th Century, people were said to have died from “consumption”. That was an earlier term to describe tuberculosis. I see that as a metaphor for the pyramidal sales scheme promoted and energized by the conspiratorial bank$ters who have managed to steal most of the world’s wealth for their own greedy and power-hungry purposes.
Anything short of megadeath should be employed to end the Bank$ter rule of most of the world. It’s a matter of We the People versus the criminal rulers.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 16:05 utc | 279

Shadowbanned @267
Fuck you and fuck Rybar. NEVER nukes!!! Once they are used there is no going back. Do you actually WANT thermonuclear destruction for the human race? Such stupidity should crawl in a hole and rot.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 16:12 utc | 280

Night Ripper @268
Another Nukophile chimes in to the “let it happen” chorus. Don’t even THINK about nukes getting used. Are you connected with one of the intel agencies or something? Posters who call for nukes go on the shitlist.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 16:15 utc | 281

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 27 2023 15:30 utc | 288
Posted by: Outraged | Feb 27 2023 15:49 utc | 289
Posted by: Chris | Feb 27 2023 15:50 utc | 290
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 27 2023 16:01 utc | 293
Agree with all.

Posted by: West of England Andy | Feb 27 2023 16:16 utc | 282

@ aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 16:12 utc | 295
Indeed! What would a Russian tactical nuke strike accomplish besides universal condemnation and revulsion?

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 27 2023 16:18 utc | 283

Bonfire Night @269
Perhaps some Italian patriot will blow up Zelensky’s villa. That man has the blood of now hundreds of thousands on his hands.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 16:18 utc | 284

Jo @285
Not only is Zelensky suffering from the Napoleon syndrome of not wanting to be short. He also suffers from an acute case of penis envy. Amazingly, he can work for the Khazarian Mafiya and the Banderite Nazis at the same time. He will go down in history as one of the most twisted humans since Caligula.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 16:26 utc | 285

West of England Andy @287
Those “Belarusian security officers” must receive their paychecks from George $oro$. That man has to be one of the most evil entities in this dimension.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 16:30 utc | 286

Donbass Devushka:
Zelensky’s adviser Podolyak threatened China with an aggressive response if they deliver arms to Russia

How to win friends and influence people by adviser Podolyak… Sure the Chinese loved that and are quaking at the thought. If I didn’t know any better I might think they are actually trying to drive China to do it on orders from foreign masters. But given so many unhelpful remarks from state representatives etc in the past, in similar sort of diplomatic matters, there is at least a 50/50 chance it wasn’t directed from above.
also, not that it’s going anywhere or was intended too (imho):

Hungary considers China’s plan for a peaceful settlement in Ukraine important and supports it – Orban

Playing his part of thumb in the eye of all those that already hated him well before all this (mostly for wanting to retain some sovereignty), shame HU is landlocked, if they had access to the seas he might have way more freedom to be a true pita for them.

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 27 2023 16:33 utc | 287

Bonfire Night @291
Those pancake pushers obviously included very few, if any, who have lost loved ones to the insane policies of fighting to the death of the last Ukrainian soldier. Nothing more than yet another P.R. event, likely created by Ukie intel, to boost morale amongst the despondent and desperate.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 16:34 utc | 288

Those “Belarusian security officers” must receive their paychecks from George $oro$. That man has to be one of the most evil entities in this dimension.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 16:30 utc | 301
Must admit $oros wasn’t the first thought that crossed my mind, “CIA front” was, but there probably isn’t much difference, ultimately.

Posted by: West of England Andy | Feb 27 2023 16:43 utc | 289

Indeed! What would a Russian tactical nuke strike accomplish besides universal condemnation and revulsion?
Posted by: malenkov | Feb 27 2023 16:18 utc | 298

I believe some of the “pro” side of that particular ledger were already mentioned by those positing the idea up thread, no need for me to repeat them and have that taken as an endorsement.

Posted by: knighthawk | Feb 27 2023 17:01 utc | 290

Karlof1 this may give you an idea of what might be up behind the scenes with potential Russian economic warfare.
These guys in my link are in the bullion market. The main guy speaking is very well respected and knows the financial markets inside out. Due to a possible related gold price increase, they have been closely watching the Russian’s move towards backing a replacement of the US$ in international trading, perhaps digital backed by gold.
But that is not what this, almost mentioned in passing, brief mention of Western vulnerability is about. As he says, it is not military but targeted economic moves that are likely to bring down countries reliant on complex financial systems. It could also be regarded as a financial blitzkrieg given its potential speed in our connected World.
Start the video at 35 mins for the relevant segment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXCpck8Xh14

Posted by: JohninMK | Feb 27 2023 17:10 utc | 291

Posted by: Outraged | Feb 27 2023 14:45 utc | 283

There has been no truce with Russia for the last 100 years.
Er, at the very least, 106 years ?

I stopped counting after 100! It’s just too depressing.
Always read yer posts. Cheers & salut!
Likewise. Keep on trucking!

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 27 2023 17:13 utc | 292

West of England Andy@304
Actually, the $oro$/CIA nexus may well be the reverse of what you posted. Little Georgie of Our $orrow$ has long been a made man, if you choose to do the depth research, you will know what I mean. His role has been that of the American Gauleiter for the world’s most powerful crime clan, centered in City of London. When he made a couple Billion shorting the British Pound, it was neither his perspicacity or good luck which so empowered him. Inside info. DEEP inside. His entire career has been access to intelligence on developing trends…directly from those doing the developing.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 18:03 utc | 293