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February 26, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-47
Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 26 2023 21:46 utc | 92 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 26 2023 22:18 utc | 101 Ukraine has attacked Belarus and blown up a Russian AWAC on the ground. Posted by: jgalt | Feb 26 2023 22:19 utc | 102 The continued campaign of western lies about china sending weapons/ammo to Russia is designed to give the impression Russia NEEDS weapons. I.e. Russia is “running out of ammo”. Posted by: HERMIUS | Feb 26 2023 22:19 utc | 103
Posted by: MiniMo | Feb 26 2023 22:07 utc | 100
There are also heaps of videos all over the Web showing relief and reconstruction work, involving aid (both official and voluntary)from Russia. Posted by: West of England Andy | Feb 26 2023 22:22 utc | 104 I have noticed also that ukraines “spring offensive” is now “mid to late spring offensive”. So the planned date is being pushed back. Posted by: HERMIUS | Feb 26 2023 22:24 utc | 105 Posted by: Darren | Feb 26 2023 21:41 utc | 90 Posted by: Blissex | Feb 26 2023 22:26 utc | 106 Posted by: West of England Andy | Feb 26 2023 22:22 utc | 104 Posted by: unimperator | Feb 26 2023 22:29 utc | 107 FWIW: This guy Turner has a patchy track record (iffy) because sometimes he has the jump out the gate. Caution is warranted.
Sputniknews’ SMO progress map has this: Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 26 2023 22:32 utc | 108 jgalt | Feb 26 2023 22:19 utc | 102 Posted by: Sektion2B | Feb 26 2023 22:35 utc | 109 Posted by: MiniMo | Feb 26 2023 22:07 utc | 100 Posted by: Blissex | Feb 26 2023 22:37 utc | 110 “Imo there will be an increase in pushback against more aid to Ukraine once the battles over the upcoming Republican formulated budget proposals get started. And those battles will have had a running start due to the battles over raising the debt limit, as Republicans seem to have drawn a line in the sand, and the Democrats will be under pressure to agree to some cuts to the stimulus package that was recently passed, so as to be seen as making a mature compromise in order to get the debt ceiling raised.” Posted by: Ed | Feb 26 2023 22:40 utc | 111 «But overall the RF could have done a more for the Donbas, and Putin has treated it for too long as an internal ukrainian issue» Posted by: Blissex | Feb 26 2023 22:45 utc | 112 The official comment of the CPC of Belarus about the “shootout” at the border: Posted by: Belarus | Feb 26 2023 22:48 utc | 113
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 26 2023 22:29 utc | 107 Posted by: West of England Andy | Feb 26 2023 22:48 utc | 114 I think Zelensky came close to saying the unspeakable – US is not actually calling shots in global assault on Russia. US just plays that role, Zelensky has direct line to the top. Posted by: jared | Feb 26 2023 22:49 utc | 115 Posted by: Blissex | Feb 26 2023 22:26 utc | 10 Posted by: Ed | Feb 26 2023 22:50 utc | 116 @ Posted by: unimperator | Feb 26 2023 22:06 utc | 99 Posted by: BroncoBilly | Feb 26 2023 22:56 utc | 117 @jared, §115: Posted by: John Marks | Feb 26 2023 23:00 utc | 118 Posted by: Blissex | Feb 26 2023 22:45 utc | 112 Posted by: Ed | Feb 26 2023 23:20 utc | 119 Posted by: Exile | Feb 26 2023 14:24 utc | 2
So that’s a rule should be performed OK – or not but I’d suppose there are “some guys/girls” have been mis-informed by their UKR-Media TV stations, that there is no need to escape from homeland – and have to expect any threat by UKR Officials – rather than have signed a R$ussian Passport since 2014 until today. Posted by: spare_truth | Feb 26 2023 23:24 utc | 120 In the light of western claims that maidan was a “revolution” which overthrew the established powers in 2014, so, then, the peoples of luhansk, donetsk and crimea had the same right of “revolution” to overthrow the established powers in their regions. Posted by: HERMIUS | Feb 26 2023 23:32 utc | 121 106 Posted by: Darren | Feb 26 2023 23:37 utc | 122 @ RSH 101 “Denied means nothing.” Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 26 2023 23:42 utc | 123 @self @120 Posted by: spare_truth | Feb 26 2023 23:51 utc | 124 But, What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Posted by: Ed | Feb 27 2023 0:00 utc | 125 @ Maracatu 9 Posted by: Giyane | Feb 27 2023 0:01 utc | 126 @122 Darren Posted by: safe | Feb 27 2023 0:04 utc | 127 Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 26 2023 23:42 utc | 123 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 27 2023 0:04 utc | 128 Posted by: HERMIUS | Feb 26 2023 23:32 utc | 121 Posted by: Blissex | Feb 27 2023 0:05 utc | 129 You have to consider that the wests leaders might be traitors. They are picking a fight with both Russia and China at the same time. With zero planning. Posted by: Darren | Feb 27 2023 0:06 utc | 130 @ 120 124 spare_truth(?) Posted by: safe | Feb 27 2023 0:08 utc | 131 @ Sektion29 109 Posted by: Giyane | Feb 27 2023 0:10 utc | 133 Posted by: Blissex | Feb 26 2023 22:26 utc | 106 Posted by: Blissex | Feb 27 2023 0:12 utc | 134 Things I found out today: Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 27 2023 0:18 utc | 135
Unfortunately, if confronted with evidence that Ukraine is a neo-Nazi regime, too many American taxpayers would dismiss it as Russian disinformation or would tag it with some other derogatory, thought-suppressing label. Posted by: David Levin | Feb 27 2023 0:24 utc | 136 Sorry – I’m staying and consist of that of my statement between the lines, of comment @120 .. Posted by: spare_truth | Feb 27 2023 0:31 utc | 137
My take on the part I put in bold is a bit different. I think (or at least would like to believe) that most people in the USA are basically decent, but they’ve been conned for so long about what the American government has been doing abroad and the motivations for it, that they are incapable of perceiving it as other than justified. Posted by: David Levin | Feb 27 2023 0:31 utc | 138 in addition to Turner on the “encirclement of Bakhmut”, Larry Johnson has this up -a Sitrep with maps from today.
Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 27 2023 0:33 utc | 139 @ Milos: Nonsense. A Trumpian insurrection won’t drain the swamp; Trump himself had no interest in doing so. Posted by: malenkov | Feb 27 2023 0:36 utc | 140 @BroncoBilly | Feb 26 2023 22:56 utc | 117 Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 27 2023 0:36 utc | 141 @David Levin | Feb 27 2023 0:31 utc | 138 Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 27 2023 0:41 utc | 142 Colonel Macgregor states that now over 2,500 Polish mercenaries have died fighting in the Ukraine: Posted by: Nate | Feb 27 2023 0:58 utc | 143 Nate: In which Poland needs to send more mercenaries! Hell, Poland should decommission its entire army and send it. “Poland Is Not Yet Lost”—but give Poland a good opportunity to lose! Posted by: malenkov | Feb 27 2023 1:02 utc | 144 Posted by: malenkov | Feb 27 2023 1:02 utc | 144
Is there any country that likes to lose more than Poland lately, Lech Walesa excepted? Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 27 2023 1:07 utc | 145 Good point, except for the “tax dollars” part. Less than 50% of the US Federal Budget is tax receipts. Posted by: Colin | Feb 27 2023 1:13 utc | 146 @ Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 27 2023 0:41 utc | 142 Posted by: BroncoBilly | Feb 27 2023 1:15 utc | 147 @ MiniMo 100 Posted by: Giyane | Feb 27 2023 1:23 utc | 148 NOMAD @30 posits an excellent question: International Orthodox Charaties is the best charity to give to. Posted by: Exile | Feb 27 2023 1:43 utc | 150 A remark on comments of above to (of whether or not by-UKR so-called “Backmuth” a la Artomowsk..): Posted by: spare-truth | Feb 27 2023 1:45 utc | 151 More from the Polish tip…from Slavyangrad Telegram: Posted by: Objective Observer | Feb 27 2023 1:58 utc | 152 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaPhLZaU1RI Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 27 2023 1:59 utc | 153 reply to 140, 142 Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 27 2023 2:05 utc | 154 @151 – self Posted by: spare-truth | Feb 27 2023 2:08 utc | 155 Unimperator @99 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 2:09 utc | 156 BK: Posted by: malenkov | Feb 27 2023 2:12 utc | 157 Posted by: BroncoBilly | Feb 27 2023 1:15 utc | 147 Posted by: hankster | Feb 27 2023 2:13 utc | 158 Lurking the pro-Ukraine yootoobs and twitter as Bakhmut falls. Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 27 2023 2:15 utc | 159 @ spare truth 151 Posted by: Giyane | Feb 27 2023 2:18 utc | 160 @ 160 Posted by: Giyane | Feb 27 2023 2:22 utc | 161 Posted by: spare-truth | Feb 27 2023 2:08 utc | 155 Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 27 2023 2:28 utc | 162 Bad Deal Motors @96 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 2:31 utc | 163 @144 Malenkov Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 27 2023 2:32 utc | 164 @159 melaleuca Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 27 2023 2:34 utc | 165 Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 27 2023 2:19 utc | 161 Posted by: rjb1.5 | Feb 27 2023 2:34 utc | 166 Posted by: Blissex | Feb 27 2023 0:05 utc | 129 Posted by: rjb1.5 | Feb 27 2023 2:38 utc | 168 Posted by: rjb1.5 | February 27, 2023 at 02:38 Posted by: rjb1.5 | Feb 27 2023 2:41 utc | 169 @ rjb1.5 Posted by: malenkov | Feb 27 2023 2:41 utc | 170 @ BroncoBilly | Feb 27 2023 1:15 utc | 147 Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 27 2023 2:43 utc | 171 DECREE OF THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE No. 113/2023 Posted by: John Kennard | Feb 27 2023 2:47 utc | 172 @ Biswapriya P. Posted by: malenkov | Feb 27 2023 2:48 utc | 173 Posted by: rjb1.5 | Feb 27 2023 2:41 utc | 174 Posted by: rjb1.5 | Feb 27 2023 2:51 utc | 174 jgalt | Feb 26 2023 22:19 utc | 102 Posted by: jgalt | Feb 27 2023 2:54 utc | 175 Buffalo Ken @165 Posted by: bevin | Feb 27 2023 2:54 utc | 176 @ BK Posted by: malenkov | Feb 27 2023 2:58 utc | 177 Posted by: safe | Feb 27 2023 0:08 utc | 131
Well thanks for notice, I’ll respect that of Your remarks here to. Bit let me try to make it better in Your sense without aqny writing failures – I’ve no translator just running when I “tipp” to You, as You have registered – due to a little Irish drunken man today. Posted by: spare-truth | Feb 27 2023 3:02 utc | 178 Milos @ 57 Posted by: circumspect | Feb 27 2023 3:16 utc | 179 Down South | Feb 26 2023 15:53 utc | 16 Posted by: Belle | Feb 27 2023 3:19 utc | 180
Posted by: Down South | Feb 27 2023 3:23 utc | 181
Posted by: Down South | Feb 27 2023 3:24 utc | 182
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/35177 Posted by: Down South | Feb 27 2023 3:30 utc | 183 sparse truth @ 120 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 3:30 utc | 184 I’ve no idea whether this is true or not, but I do recall the initial stories of Iran supplying drones to Russia were denied by all sides…
While this could well be Western propaganda to tar China with involvement in the war in order to dissuade China from pursuing a peace plan, as well to comport with the West’s usual anti-China stance, the suggestion that China plans to license the drone manufacture to Russia parallels what Iran allegedly did. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 27 2023 3:31 utc | 185 And then there is the denial…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 27 2023 3:34 utc | 186 Ukraine’s eastern and southern oblasts weren’t as developed as North Caucasus. I get that Russian officials might’ve been reluctant in the project of Novorossiya and preferred both of DNR and LNR to become autonomous republics within Ukraine. Posted by: La Beauté Prenante | Feb 27 2023 3:36 utc | 187 Yesterday – approx. UTC 09 PM – I was watching the dark sky towards S/SW, the North-Star in opposition of course on North. Posted by: spare-truth | Feb 27 2023 3:37 utc | 188 Blissex @129 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 3:40 utc | 189 Giyane @133 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 3:46 utc | 190 B.P. @135 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 3:53 utc | 191 Will newly trained Ukr troops take Transnistria. Only 1500 russian troops stationed there. US 101 airborne is in Romania, Maia Sandu the Presidant has just the other day also visited Romania that is a close allied. Posted by: Marduk | Feb 27 2023 3:54 utc | 192 David Levin @138 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 3:59 utc | 193 Ahole | Feb 26 2023 19:02 utc | 47 Posted by: Paul McGrory | Feb 27 2023 4:00 utc | 194 Posted by: safe | Feb 27 2023 0:08 utc | 131
Ok, thanks for that note. I’ll try to avoid spelling errors that today. Posted by: spare_truth | Feb 27 2023 4:05 utc | 195 Buffalo Ken @145 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 4:07 utc | 196 Colin @146 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 4:10 utc | 197 I detect a distinct change of tone among the genocidal MoA commenters. Perhaps it is sinking in that your hero Putin is leading Russia to ruin. It’s only been obvious since the summer of 2022, so I guess it was only a matter of time before the more intelligent of you brainwashed and propagandized fools would smell the coffee. Posted by: Longhorn | Feb 27 2023 4:16 utc | 198 Posted by: unimperator | Feb 26 2023 22:06 utc | 99 Posted by: Paul McGrory | Feb 27 2023 4:18 utc | 199 karlof1@149 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 27 2023 4:21 utc | 200 |
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