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February 20, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-42

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If the US has an earthquake weapon, that has never been used before, why bother exposing it on Eastern Turkey? IThe top minds in the US aren’t going to choose Russia, China or Iran first? Let’s take the newest, most secret, most destructive, utilizing the greatest leap in weapon technology in the history of the world and drop it on watermelon farmers just to show Erdogan who is boss. This is almost an Austin Powers shark with lasers move rather than a bullet.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Feb 21 2023 5:41 utc | 201

@203
Really? You read through that article in 2 minutes?

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 21 2023 5:51 utc | 202

I meant @204

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 21 2023 5:52 utc | 203

psychohistorian @178–
Polished my meme:
Imagine The Iliad with Biden as Paris and Putin as Menelaus. RoW as all his Greek allies, and with Ukraine and RoW’s wellbeing filling the role of Helen. Yes, an Epic Struggle that ought to be remembered in verse, song, and text for the Ages to come.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 21 2023 6:00 utc | 204

10 minutes to Putin’s speech (assuming it starts on time).
I’m sceptical that we’ll see what this article says we’ll see.
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/russia-is-going-to-war-tomorrow/
I hope we do, though.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 21 2023 6:18 utc | 205

Re: Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 21 2023 5:39 utc | 203
Do you consider establishing Russian controlled land-bridges to Hungary/Serbia & Kaliningrad essential to any declaration that Russia “WON” this conflict?
That would be a definitive victory, anything less than that is arguable – and that doesn’t even get into NATO Membership.
The most rabid (Eastern) NATO countries are not going to leave NATO – they have it too good.

Posted by: Julian | Feb 21 2023 6:26 utc | 206

Shadowbanned @ 87
You really screwed the pooch when you insisted that Russia did not prepare for future military necessities.
Answer me this…has Russia run out of ammunition yet? Would you dare to suggest that their frequent 60,000 per DAY artillery rounds were old Soviet stock?
Is it not logical to assume that while the puppet regime in the Di$trict of Corruption along with their NATOstani minor minions were happily arming and Training the Ukies to the hilt; the RF folks were not producing 152 MM shells on a 24/7 basis along with new surprises in weaponry which are far more advanced than anything produced by the for-profit WarDefense Industries in the U$$A, subtly inclusive of plenty of grift for the bought and paid for pro$titicians squatting over the sewers of the Di$trict.
Oh, you’re a clever poster all right…very well trained and conceivably well-paid. However this time the Pooch screwed you when you slipped up and overlooked the fact that in terms of production of military hardware that since 2014 the Russians have been in a class by themselves with state owned and/or closely monitored development of both quantities and quality of the tools of war.
Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 21 2023 5:11 utc | 193

I said that society wasn’t prepared. And yes, the MIC wasn’t quite prepared either, but the bigger issue is that the SMO started without preparing society for the need for it and without properly formulating (and then following) the objectives.
Compare to what Stalin did.
The situations are quite similar — back then the West was going to try to kill communism, and that was clear 15-20 years before WWII started, and in the present it has been clear that the West will try to establish firm colonial control over Russia (including eventually settler colonialism) for at least 25 years.
At least 12 years before the war Stalin knew very well what is coming, even if he didn’t know the exact form (e.g. it need not necessarily have been the US and the UK maneuvering Hitler into doing their dirty work for them, but regardless, there was going to be a big war). So he started the most ambitious industrialization program in history, in order to be ready for it.
Then he also knew that internal cohesion will be critical for success and that he cannot afford to have fifth columnists in key positions. So he did the purges while propaganda was doing its job all throughout the 1930s.
The result was that while they still got caught with their pants down on the day of the invasion, society was ready for a big war. And eventually the Soviet Man that Stalin was cultivating in the 1930s prevailed.
On the surface, Putin didn’t get caught with his pants down — he struck first — but once you dig under the surface, the picture is quite different. And he certainly didn’t do the things Stalin did. There was no purge — even though right now the problem is much much worse than it was in the 1930s, there are many more people in Russia today who need to be shot in basements and sent to GULAGs. Granted, the days of taking care of that problem through such direct means are over, but those people haven’t even been removed from their positions.
The country also needed much more in terms of reindustrialization that was done. True, it is not the peasant society it was in the 1920s, it is still living off the Soviet legacy, but people here severely underestimate the damage that the 1990s did. If you have actually seen the discussions on the ground in Russia, you would know. But you haven’t.
And it needed mental preparation. This isn’t the equivalent of that first Soviet generation that is going to be fighting this war, neoliberalism has ruled and corroded Russian society for decades. But Putin himself is a committed neoliberal and he never did much to move Russia away from that poisonous influence.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 21 2023 6:26 utc | 207

Shadowbanned @80
Dude! You win the Bullshitter of the Day award. What evidence do you have for your claim that the U$$A HAS hypersonic weapons in the first place and that they will be posted in countries bordering the RF?
Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 21 2023 5:20 utc | 198

It has been testing them. It doesn’t have them deployed, but it is a matter of time, and it is not as long as many are complacently thinking. The window is closing.
Why do you think the war started? It was precisely because of that expectation.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 21 2023 6:28 utc | 208

@Julian 210
Personally, I would consider only this as a victory:
1. A land bridge to Transnistria, incorporating Odessa and Nikolayev so that can’t become NATO bases;
2. Taking the entire territory east of the Dneiper
3. Total demilitarisation of the rump that is left of Ukraine by destruction of all military units and equipment
4. Compelling the western states of Europistan – the Baltic slagheaps and Poland are irredeemable- to choose between being destitute in NATO or independent outside it.
Anything short of that would be a compromise and a guarantee of future conflict.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 21 2023 6:32 utc | 209

@shadowbanned 211
I agree entirely.
Lukoil is even supplying Ukranazistan with refined oil through Bulgaria! That’s literally helping your enemy.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 21 2023 6:36 utc | 210

@Melaleuca | Feb 21 2023 3:24 utc | 162

Something veryyyy strange happened on one of the uninhabited Tongan islands in January 2022. I’m inclined to think it was a supersekret blackops tech experiment.

Yes, the very strange event is called a “volcanic eruption”, more here: Hunga Tonga Hunga Ha’apai volcano

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 21 2023 7:00 utc | 211

Why do you think the war started? It was precisely because of that expectation.
Posted by: shadowbanned | Feb 21 2023 6:28 utc | 212
The war started because NATO wanted it to start. Russia would have preferred to wait a few more years.
Hypersonic missiles are neat and all, but they aren’t the be all end all in the weapon technology. They aren’t even useful in Ukraine as they are designed primarily to defeat NATO Naval forces.
The problem as I see it in all this analysis is a severe underestimating of the US Military. If one starts with the correct assumption, that Russia is closing the gap with US Military, but has not as of yet surpassed them, things make a lot more sense.
Martynov might be partly to blame for that. Losing military supremacy, yes, not yet lost though. Time is on the Russian/Chinese side, therefore NATO is pushing for confrontation now.
Russia is just now finishing off Ukrainian AD. Gravity bombs dropped from heavy bombers are the best way to take out entrenched positions. Low flying attack jets are the best way to deal with logistic lines and weapons like HIMAR. S-300 units have prevented both.

Posted by: Haassaan | Feb 21 2023 7:16 utc | 212

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 21 2023 6:36 utc | 214
And last I checked, Russia was still providing natural gas to Ukraine (and to NATO countries via Ukraine). McCain unfortunately wasn’t wrong when he called Russia a “gas station masquerading as a country”.

Posted by: Unnamed | Feb 21 2023 7:19 utc | 213

Turk 152 | Feb 21 2023 5:41 utc | 205
If there is such a weapon (which I don’t think it exists or if it does, others surely have it too), it can only be used where earthquakes exist naturally. You can’t shake where nothing can move.

Posted by: rk | Feb 21 2023 7:26 utc | 214

Read both that and Simplicius new article ( https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-220-terminal-approach
).
Regarding “full war”, I’d tend to think it won’t happen. The new offensive, when successful and tactically superior force ratios, can develop operationally. Most Ukie forces are tied up in defending the various Donbass strong points, and a new offensive can squeeze the supplies without needing to destroy any bridges. We’ll see what happens, the ongoing week will be interesting.
The grinding strategy is the actual framework for a (the) new offensive.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 21 2023 6:18 utc | 209

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 21 2023 7:29 utc | 215

Lancet Drone — Real Headache
Russian-made kamikaze drone has become a real headache for Armed Forces of Ukraine. The drone caused damage to almost all branches of Ukrainian army — from artillery to electronic warfare troops.
Lancet is new generation of high-precision loitering ammunition. After launch, the drone independently detects targets using an optoelectronic system. If necessary, the UAV connects with operator to strike target in manual control mode.
The drone can destroy both manpower and unarmored vehicles, as well as enemy artillery, command posts and ammunition depots at a considerable distance from front line.
“Lancet” is especially dangerous for artillery systems. After hitting ammunition bay or gun mantlet, the artillery system can no longer be used.
In addition to high accuracy of Lancet, its advantage is ease of use. Lancet only requires a mobile launch platform that can be used by just two people.
Lancet is difficult to shoot down with MANPADS. Instead of a gasoline engine, an electric motor is installed, which practically does not emit heat, and the drone itself is made of lightweight plastic.
Low cost of Lancet compared to other high-precision weapons, such as Krasnopol shells, makes it extremely popular among troops and allows military to carry out massive raids on enemy positions.
Specifications:
Flight duration: 1 Hour
Flight range: 50km
Warhead: 5kg
Cruise speed: 100km/h
Speed on impact: 300km/h

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/34377

Posted by: Down South | Feb 21 2023 7:31 utc | 216

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 21 2023 5:39 utc | 203
I read through ninety percent of the piece until I got to the claim that Russia has lost 100,000 dead and wounded, and Ukraine maybe 150,000.
Complete and total concern troll bullshit.
Go back and read the Alexandr Roger’s piece I linked to earlier – it describes you to a T.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 21 2023 7:34 utc | 217

Welcome to France RT and Rumble banned, Google playstore not letying you install Tor on an Android device..

Posted by: Mina | Feb 21 2023 7:35 utc | 218

Good morning campers, well todays the day.
I predict it will be more of the same slow and steady, with an adjustment to special anti-terrorist operation instead of SMO, taking all of Ukraine back under Russian control (eventually)
Plus a massive warning and ultimatum,
This war against Russia has visibly only been killing Russian speaking people. The great Vladimir Putin will remind the west of that. If you want brinkmenship well now you’v got it.
I can sense the west wetting their pants.
But don’t worry he promised us 72 hours to evacuate so thats 24 of Feb.
I,m ready are you ? were all refugees now.
I love the smell of karma in the morning.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 21 2023 7:35 utc | 219

Colleagues, all telegram channels that are not under the hood of the Office of the President and the SBU wrote about this problem.
The scheme implemented by the Office of the President is to fill the Donbass front with mobilized troops, and leave the trained units in the rear in case of an attack from Belarus.
If the scandal with the deceased had not gone public, the officials and the government would have continued to brazenly send the boys to be slaughtered.
Conclusion: do not be silent about the lawlessness of power and officials. Otherwise tomorrow will be too late.

https://t.me/legitimniy/14821

Posted by: Down South | Feb 21 2023 7:47 utc | 220

I second Simplicius latest “SitRep 2/20 – Terminal Approach” here:
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-220-terminal-approach
Important points:

So not only was the futuristic F-22 AN/APG-77 AESA radar revealed to be a dud unable to even lock onto its target, but the much-vaunted NATO standard Link 16 had trouble performing even over uncontested allied territory, losing its datalink to the C3 flight shadowing the jet fighter. Imagine how it would perform in an actual contested, adversarial environment full of EW suppression? But can one really be surprised?
And by the way, while the F-22 will likely soon retire in abject ignominy, without a single confirmed kill to its name, the superior Russian Su-57 got what was likely the single longest air-to-air kill in history as its very first scalp.

After being exposed, the ‘NAFO’ crowd quickly deflected by switching to the purported ongoing ‘struggles’ of Wagner troops in Bakhmut. It is claimed that Wagner’s been suffering from great shell hunger, and has made a video pleading for the Kremlin to send them more shells. This has ignited speculation on whether an internal ‘feud’ of sorts is developing between the politically ascendant Prighozin and the Kremlin holdovers.
However, two interesting items were shared which shed a different light on developments. Firstly, this message from a purported Russian unit supplying Wagner troops: [Shows Tweet from someone who lists the exact amounts of ammunition supplied to Wagner]
Followed by this most intriguing (purported) MI6 transmission:
MI6 transmitted intelligence to the President’s Office and the General Staff that PMC Wagner has no problems with weapons and shells, and all publications are an information campaign to distract the attention of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The Russian army continues to implement its strategy to encircle Bakhmut. According to British intelligence, next week will be the most active on the eastern front, and the Ukrainian Armed Forces need to be ready to retreat from the city.
This of course, coming after some of us had already ventured the suspicion that this could be the case. There was something really ‘off’ about the contrived nature of the back and forth. I allow that there could be something to it, and the other natural thought-train was that the Kremlin could be intentionally limiting Wagner’s allowance, not for ‘political feud’ reasons, but rather to rein them in, slightly, for they might’ve been progressing too quickly in Bakhmut to suit a particular operational imperative the Kremlin had in mind to coincide with their next incoming phase of operations.
Of course, that’s crude speculation. But the above two bits of info are otherwise quite intriguing in their own right, and point to an ongoing ‘maskirovka’ dance on all sides.

So much for the concern trolls bitching and moaning about Wagner’s and Prigozhin’s alleged claims.
Then he speculates that Putin may be about to declare war on Ukraine:

Now, given the rumors that Putin’s speech could be premised on these various allegations against NATO’s and Ukrainian war crimes, this lends an interesting timing as—like mentioned above—these recent releases could be the ‘laying of the groundwork’ to justify the announcement of new military/political escalations.

He further connects the dots on Transnistria and Moldova and suggests:

The fact is, Transnistria remains a crucial ‘pressure point’ in the escalating hybrid war against Russia, and they know they can ‘activate’ this point via their stooges in Moldova at any time to try and throw Russia off balance and tailspin the conflict into unpredictable directions, in order to stymy Russia’s near-certain imminent annihilation of the AFU.

He then suggests that Zelensky is ready to abandon Bakhmut, now that the Biden visit is over.
He ends with this interesting note:

One last message:
Russia is most likely preparing a major offensive on February 24 in a number of areas, Vitaly Barabash, head of the Avdiivka military-civil Administration, said on the telethon.: “According to intelligence data, the Russians are moving additional forces to the Donetsk direction (Avdiivka, Bakhmut, Ugledar, Marinka). A couple of weeks ago, about 160 battalions were concentrated – now it is already 190. Even with incomplete equipment – this is a lot of people. We understand that, most likely, they are preparing for something. On February 24, they will probably attack, ” Barabash said.

190 battalions is between 114,000 and 150,000 men, depending on strength. And that’s just in the Donetsk area.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 21 2023 7:53 utc | 221

Mina | Feb 21 2023 7:35 utc | 222
Last year, when I tested it, Tor was censoring Russia. So was DuckDuckGo search, they were even proud of it. Most of these were honeypots anyway but too stupid to fake it, they revealed themselves in the first months. You can see the same pattern in all their actions.

Posted by: rk | Feb 21 2023 7:53 utc | 222

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 21 2023 4:12 utc | 179
it was Macgregor’s idea, not mine. they’ll be scrambling to fix the loophole, but I’m not sure how efficient they actually are.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 21 2023 7:58 utc | 223

LUGANSK, February 21. /TASS/. Ukrainian troops expect that the second front will be opened in the wake of US President Joe Biden’s visit to Kiev, Colonel of the Lugansk People’s Republic’s (LPR) People’s Militia Andrey Marochko told TASS on Tuesday.
“Ukrainian militants on the frontline are actively discussing the US president’s visit to Kiev. Many expect that the second front will be opened, which will make things easier for them,” he pointed out.

Posted by: rk | Feb 21 2023 8:00 utc | 224

Moscow’s Grand Strategy is to spark economic collapse in the USA. Economic Collapse is only way Moscow achieves its War Aims as outlined in Dec 2021.
The Ukrainian Civil War is a sideshow to the main event.

Posted by: Exile | Feb 21 2023 8:01 utc | 225

🇺🇦🪖🇷🇺The Ukrainian military are training near the Chernobyl exclusion zone, AFP reports, calling the exclusion zone “one of the most inhospitable places on the planet.”
“A truck of the Ukrainian army covered with camouflage netting with an anti-aircraft gun makes its way through bare trees in the exclusion zone just 15 kilometers from the border of Ukraine with Belarus, an ally of Moscow. Nearby, a tank with Ukrainian soldiers is moving across the plain at the edge of the forest, rolling over patches of melting snow. At a signal, a group of soldiers begins a training attack and heads for the forest,” the actions of the military are described in the material.
Many of the men here are not professional soldiers.
“I’m a math teacher. I had no military training,” said Vasily, one of the servicemen who took part in the exercises.
“>https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230220-ukraine-s-forces-train-near-chernobyl-exclusion-zone

Posted by: Down South | Feb 21 2023 8:13 utc | 226

Returning yet once more to Simplicus’s article, it was indeed another possibility that the Bakhmut operation is “slowed down” in order to encourage Zelly send more troops there. Whatever troops are near Bakhmut, won’t be somewhere else, and consequentially won’t be available to defend a potential cut of supply, or even a cauldron forming from the north, or south, or both.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 21 2023 8:14 utc | 227

Reciprocity
There is in international relations the concept of reciprocity. There is not only the concept, but also a recognition, as well as the practice of reciprocity. From the mundane, to the legal, to the political, to the diplomatic, to the military, it holds true. It is written into international law; for example, one need only to look at the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.
Russia has from the beginning of the current crisis in relations with the “west”, from 2007 in other words, consistently reacted to the actions and provocations of the “west,” in reciprocal ways; sometimes directly, but not always – sometimes asymmetrically. But it has always reciprocated. “Seize our diplomatic properties, we’ll seize yours; send our diplomats home, we’ll send yours packing; overthrow our neighbors’ government, we’ll frustrate your regime change plans in others and strengthen your adversaries to boot. But now the maneuvering room for Russia to act asymmetrically has collapsed. The US has shown, and been caught out, to have acted directly against Russia; in Ukraine, as well as in the Baltic by destroying the NS pipelines. The plausible deniability has been wiped away; the actions have been laid bare and the US’ hand prints have been shown to be all over the crime scene. And the US attitude is arrogantly stated to be “yeah we did that to you and what are you going to do about it!?” The US has directly attacked Russia, consequences be damned.
Russia, in the spirit of reciprocity, must now reciprocate. And it must reciprocate directly and openly. The US committed an act of war against Russia – an act for which there is no justification; If the US is not a party to the Ukraine war, then there can be no justification to destroy Russia’s civilian infrastructure. Russia did not attack the US, did not provoke the US, did not threaten the US. The only possible justification the US could have, is if it is indeed a combatant, and at war with Russia. I believe that Russia will recognize that a state of war exists with the US, and take retaliatory action against the US.
I have been wondering about what Mr. Putin would be saying to the Russian Nation tomorrow in his speech. It might be a recitation of the past year of events, the progress of the SMO, the gains they’ve made, the losses they’ve had, the difficulties they’ve encountered. I’m sure that will be a part of his speech. But as others have alluded to, and as I believe, something momentous is about to happen, and I believe that Mr. Putin will lay the groundwork and framing for that.
The remaining box to be checked will be the UN security council session, called for the 22nd, to investigate the NS destruction, coupled with a proforma FUKUS veto of any resolution coming out of that session, and the stage will be set. Russia will have the facts of the event to show that there is no justice in the format of the UN, and will have no choice but to act unilaterally and in its own best interests to deter aggression and find justice.
The synchronicity, that B laid out, with the events of last February, the Russian nuclear forces exercise the other day, the special session of the Duma, as well as the incessant argumentation made by Russia that the “west” is a party to the conflict, the unveiling of biological weapons research that the west carries on, the use of chemical weapons in the conflict by Ukraine (and therefore its sponsors), the encouragement to Ukraine, by the US, to attack Crimea and other parts of Russia, the US funding and control of the Ukrainian govt, the “west’s” standing-up of Ukrainian forces, arms supplies, sanctions, threatening of Russia’s economic and political partners, and again, the exposure of the US’ hand in the destruction of the NS pipelines, says that Russia will officially recognize that a state of war exists between itself and the US (+NATO, +EU – it’s all the same really).
But will it? I don’t know – no Chrystal ball here, but we’ve only a several hours to go before Mr. Putin’s speech, so we’ll see. But that’s where my thoughts take me. What would that look like? In the spirit of reciprocity, and to make things painful but not overly existential, it might be a destruction of US oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. Destruction of Statoil’s rigs in the North Sea? It wouldn’t be an attack against US or NATO’s forces, just against civilian infrastructure, and not even in the “homeland.” We shall see. Reciprocity, it’s not just a good idea, it’s the law.

Posted by: Scuppers | Feb 21 2023 8:27 utc | 228

Moscow’s Grand Strategy is to spark economic collapse in the USA.
Posted by: Exile | Feb 21 2023 8:01 utc | 230

Russia is missing out by not syndicating the advertising rights to Putin’s speech.

Posted by: too scents | Feb 21 2023 8:28 utc | 229

Hello fellow barflies,
I have nothing intelligent to add.
Just here to gloat, since Putin’s address is in less than an hour and I’m fizzing with excitement!
I wonder if this will be extinction moment for the Trolls that have infested this and similar blogs.

Posted by: Suresh | Feb 21 2023 8:30 utc | 230

Current time in Moscow: 11:32 AM
Twenty-eight minutes to Putin’s speech… 🙂

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 21 2023 8:33 utc | 231

🇷🇺Peskov full statement:
“Of course, the Message will be dedicated to the year that has expired, 2022, the year that was marked by the beginning of a special military operation. And it is quite possible to assume with a high degree of confidence that at least a large part of this message will be devoted to this, in many respects, the assessment of the reasons, the assessment of the inevitability of a special military operation, its predetermination and necessity from the point of view of our national interests. Putin’s message will be a systematized document, it will take about an hour.”

https://t.me/azmilitary11/38452

Posted by: Down South | Feb 21 2023 8:48 utc | 232

For me a win would be (not a win for rus or china)(a win for the people),
1. the political system in US is replaced with something that is less manageable for the entrenched class. It may be direct democracy, multiparty democracy, autocracy, anything but this illusory democracy.
2. The US ability to extract rent from the r-o-w is finished/neutralized.
3. Big tech firms are kicked out of our lives e.g. android kicked out of our mobile handsets and smart devices.
4. Biometric surveillance legislatures are rolled back.
5. Details of ownership of anything and everything anywhere in the world is publicly available.
6. Justice system should be transparent. Judges should have a fixed tenure of 1 year and selected/lotteried(drawn randomly from a lot) from among educated people, and ineligible for re-appointment, and would be subject to the same laws afterwards.
7. 70% of earth’s surface marked as inviolable by human activities. (That is minimum. Actually it should be close to 98-99%)
8. A system of eugenics. based only on criminality. Maximum offsprings allowed to a couple, if even one is a criminal, to be limited to one. Crimes are killing, maiming, psychologically damaging a child, trespassing on the earth’s inviolable areas etc. not some made up thing like opposition to use of gendered grammar in the french language.
9. Educating people what a bias is, types of biases, what indoctrination is, why people subscribe to indoctrination, why people try to appear smarter than they really are.
10. Educating people what slothness is, what dulling is, what hubris is, that people have a natural tendency to slouchness, why people would generally become a couch potato, rather than exercising mind and body and metta. why people will subscribe to any philosophy, cult or religion, when doing the minimum as ordered in them makes them feel satisfied that they no longer have to do anything else.
As I started to write the comment, number of points increased. For me 1,2,3 is necessary for this thing to be called a win.

Posted by: RealBesat | Feb 21 2023 8:57 utc | 233

Link to President Putin’s address to the Federal Assembly, live-stream, English translated(?), courtesy of ‘iEarlGrey’/RT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO-e_04qag0

Posted by: Andrew Celestina | Feb 21 2023 9:02 utc | 234

Hat tip “Rob Rudolf” of Slavyangrad chat.
Link to watch the speech by Putin here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO-e_04qag0

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/34414

Posted by: Down South | Feb 21 2023 9:02 utc | 235

@238: any company too big to fail or which comprises a de facto monopoly is too big to be unregulated.
USA needs an electoral system in which the party with the majority of voters holds a majority in Congress. But due to the current system (2 Senators per state regardless of population) and excessive gerrymandering of House districts, the GOP holds a majority in the House and the Dems have only the narrowest of margins in the Senate.

Posted by: Noam A. Larkey | Feb 21 2023 9:06 utc | 236

Live coverage with English language translation at Sputnik: https://sputniknews.com/20230221/president-vladimir-putin-delivers-annual-address-to-russian-parliament-1107648407.html

Posted by: West of England Andy | Feb 21 2023 9:09 utc | 237

Posted by: Andrew Celestina | Feb 21 2023 9:02 utc | 239
Posted by: West of England Andy | Feb 21 2023 9:09 utc | 242
Thanks!

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 21 2023 9:16 utc | 238

Thanks Hermit (79) and Nick (187). I was just about to question bottle’s (laughable) idea of the USA being a beacon of sanity, but you beat me to it.

Posted by: joey_n | Feb 21 2023 9:25 utc | 239

⚡ Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation (21 February 2023)
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.
💥 In Kupyansk direction, the active operations, conducted by the units of the ‘Zapad’ Group of Forces, supported by Army Aviation and artillery, have resulted in the neutralisation of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) near Tabayevka, Sinkovka (Kharkov region), and Novosyolovskoye (Lugansk People’s Republic).
◽️ Up to 70 Ukrainian personnel, 1 tank, 2 armoured fighting vehicles, 3 motor vehicles, 1 fighting vehicle equipped with Grad multiple-launch rocket system (MLRS), 1 D-20 howitzer, as well as 1 U.S.-manufactured M-777 artillery system.
💥 In Krasny Liman direction, the units of the ‘Tsentr’ Group of Forces have launched a complex fire attack against the enemy manpower near Stelmakhovka, Chervonaya Dibrova (Lugansk People’s Republic), and Yampolovka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
◽️ Over 200 Ukrainian personnel, 3 armoured fighting vehicles, 1 fighting vehicle equipped with Grad MLRS, 1 Gvozdika self-propelled howitzer, 1 D-30 howitzer, as well as 2 U.S.-manufactured M101 howitzers.
💥 In Donetsk direction, the offensive operations of the ‘Yug’ Group of Forces continue with the support of Ground-Attack Aviation, heavy flamethrower systems, and artillery.
◽️ The enemy has lost over 170 Ukrainian personnel, 5 armoured fighting vehicles, 4 motor vehicles, 1 fighting vehicle equipped with Grad MLRS, 1 Akatsiya self-propelled howitzer, 1 Gvozdika self-propelled howitzer, and 2 D-30 howitzers.
◽️ 2 launching ramps of U.S.-manufactured HIMARS MLRS, and 1 ordnance depot have been destroyed near Kramatorsk (Donetsk People’s Republic).
💥 In South Donetsk and Zaporozhye directions, the artillery and heavy flamethrower systems of the ‘Vostok’ Group of Forces have launched a complex fire attack against the AFU units near Ugledar, Prechistovka, and Zolotaya Niva (Donetsk People’s Republic).
◽️ The firepower operation has resulted in the elimination of up to 70 Ukrainian personnel, 2 tanks, 2 armoured fighting vehicles, 1 fighting vehicle equipped with Grad MLRS, and 1 D-20 howitzer.
◽️ 1 AFU ordnance depot has been neutralised near Ugledar.
💥 In Kherson direction, the counterbattery warfare operations have resulted in the destruction of 1 Akatsiya self-propelled howitzer, 2 Gvozdika self-propelled howitzers, and 1 U.S.-manufactured AN/TPQ-37 counterbattery warfare radar near Tomina Balka (Kherson region).
◽️ 1 AFU ordnance depot has been destroyed near Kherson.
💥 Army Aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have neutralised 94 AFU artillery units at their firing positions, as well as manpower and hardware in 128 areas.
💥 Air defence facilities have destroyed 10 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Liman Vtoroy, Tavolzhanka, Grakovo (Kharkov region), Ploshchanka, Kremennaya (Lugansk People’s Republic), Panteleymonovka, Kirillovka (Donetsk People’s Republic), and Peremozhnoye (Zaporozhye region).
◽️ 2 rocket-propelled projectiles, launched by HIMARS and Uragan MLRS, as well as 2 Tochka-U tactical missiles have been shot down near Bolshetroitskoye and Karaichnoye (Belgorod region).
📊 In total, 386 airplanes, 210 helicopters, 3,203 unmanned aerial vehicles, 405 air defence missile systems, 7,960 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 1,037 fighting vehicles equipped with MLRS, 4,171 field artillery guns and mortars, as well as 8,472 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed since the beginning of the special military operation.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 21 2023 9:33 utc | 240

Biswapriya Purkayast #214

Lukoil is even supplying Ukranazistan with refined oil through Bulgaria! That’s literally helping your enemy.

That is but one troubling aspect of this war. As I see it Russia is absolutely committed to attract nazis, soldiers and weapons into the web and destroy them and if giving them fuel to travel to a single narrow front and meet their destruction is the way, then I can see the method in the madness. They are also draining nazi mercenaries across the world as well as their ISIS buddies. I gather Russia finds this outcome an efficient and productive exercise.
Equally if the immense destruction is confined to a narrow band of villages and cities as it is and the demilitarisation is achieved by absolute collapse of the nazi forces then that saves the vast settled cities and lands west from being absolutely leveled as those few villages are in the east. Sure they are copping a bombing of strategic infrastructure but not demolition/destruction.
A collapse and capitulation is the best outcome here with the vanquished tasked to clean up their social cancer, eradicate the nazi enclaves, self manage their restoration and all beholden to Russian rubles as the hryvnia will be abolished.
The war has now openly engulfed NATO who will perhaps focus its attention to their threatening overreach as was Russia’s stated intention back in December 2021. I have no doubt the Russian leadership was well aware of the reluctance – terror even – of NATO actually seriously considering such a demand. Perhaps they will have to do just that simply to retain their ‘legitimacy’ pomp and hierarchy.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 21 2023 9:37 utc | 241

Suresh #235

I wonder if this will be extinction moment for the Trolls that have infested this and similar blogs.

Ha ha the only extinction moment for a troll is when they finally fall asleep. You can bet they will wake soon and start their entire crapification once more.
You and I should grab a box of darts or a case of molotovs and take a drink at the bar practicing our aim for when they awake.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 21 2023 9:42 utc | 242

I may have missed it, of course (easily done) but one thing is unclear to my pedestrian brain. The Outlaw Empire wants to weaken Germany by depriving it of Russian oil. So it blows up Nord Stream 2 pipelines with, thanks to Mr Hersh’s analysis, Norway’s active involvement.
The latter stands to benefit hugely as it has significant oil assets and a pipeline to Poland. Germany, Poland and Norway are notionally on the same side i.e. anti-Russia. So why can’t Germany just get Norwegian oil via Poland? Why does Germany need to involuntarily de-industrialise by importing expensive US LNG or marked-up Russian oil via India? Wouldn’t the Outlaw Empire have been prudent to blow up Norwegian oil pipelines too? Or is that coming?

Posted by: Vragtes | Feb 21 2023 10:02 utc | 243

Posted by: Vragtes | Feb 21 2023 10:02 utc | 248
Nato propaganda is now disseminating rumors that Russia is about to destroy some Norwegian gas or oil pipeline in the North Sea. So it’s probably coming soon.
Norway indeed benefited a lot from NS pipes taken out, but US will benefit a lot more from Norwegian pipes taken out.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 21 2023 10:08 utc | 244

From IntelSlava

🇷🇺⚡️The speech of the President of Russia Vladimir Putin has begun.
🇷🇺⚡ A year ago to protect our people on historical lands. To eliminate the neo-Nazi regime of the established regime in Ukraine, a decision was made on the SMO. Step by step we will carefully and consistently solve the tasks set before us – Putin
🇷🇺⚡Russia did everything possible to solve the problem in Ukraine by peaceful means. But the statements of Western leaders turned into a forgery and a lie.
🇷🇺⚡️Putin : the promises and statements of Western rulers turned into forgery and cruel lies. The West supplied weapons, trained the nationalist battalions. Even before the start of the SMO, negotiations were underway on the supply of air defense systems and aircraft. We remember Kyiv’s attempts to obtain nuclear weapons.
🇷🇺⚡Putin: The United States deployed bases and biological laboratories near our borders, mastered the theater of military operations, prepared Ukraine for a big war.
🇷🇺⚡Putin: while Donbass was on fire and blood was shed, and Russia was sincerely striving for a peaceful solution, the West was playing on people’s lives, playing with “marked cards”. They behaved the same way, destroying Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Syria. The concept of honor and decency is not for them.
🇷🇺⚡️Putin : we firmly defend not only our interests, but also the position that there should be no division into “civilized” countries and the rest. We were sincerely ready for a constructive dialogue.
🇷🇺⚡Putin: in response, we received an indistinct, hypocritical reaction. NATO expanded to our borders, new missile defense position areas were created.
🇷🇺⚡Putin: we received a refusal on all fundamental positions. It became clear that the go-ahead for the implementation of aggression had been given. The threat grew every day. By February 2022, everything was ready for the next punitive action of Kiev in the Donbass.
🇷🇺⚡Putin: Kyiv’s actions completely contradicted UN resolutions. It was THEY who started the war. And we used force to stop it.
🇷🇺⚡Putin: Kyiv’s next goal was to strike at Crimea and Sevastopol. Now Kyiv is openly talking about it. They revealed what we already knew so well
🇷🇺⚡️Putin : we are defending our home, and the goal of the West is unlimited power. they have already spent more than $150 billion on arming Kyiv.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : they spare no expense to encourage unrest and coups around the world. At a conference in Munich, Russia was blamed so that everyone would forget what the West had done in recent decades. Entire regions are in chaos. American experts say that as a result of the wars unleashed by the United States after 2001, more than 900 thousand people died, more than 38 million became refugees.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : in the 1930s, the West opened the way to power in Germany for the Nazis, today they are making “anti-Russia” out of Ukraine, this project goes back to the 19th century, Austria-Hungary, Poland nurtured it to tear off historical territories from our country.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : Recently, one of the brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was given the name “Edelweiss” as a Nazi division that participated in the deportation of Jews, executions of prisoners of war, and punitive operations. SS chevrons are very popular in Ukraine. Wehrmacht marks are applied to the equipment.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : The West doesn’t give a damn who to bet on in the fight against us. The main thing is that they fight with our country, fulfill their will, serve as a weapon against Russia.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : we are not at war with the people of Ukraine, they themselves are a hostage of the Kiev regime and its Western masters, who occupied this country, destroyed its industry and robbed its wealth.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : the responsibility for the escalation of the conflict lies entirely with the Western elites and the Kiev regime, for which the Ukrainian people are a stranger.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : the more long-range Western systems will come to Ukraine, the further we will be forced to move the threat away from our borders.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : The goal of the West is to inflict a strategic defeat on Russia, to end us once and for all. We will respond accordingly, because we are talking about the existence of our country.
🇷🇺⚡Putin: more and more aggressive information attacks are being carried out against us. The main target is the younger generations.
🇷🇺⚡Russia cannot be defeated on the battlefield – Putin!

Posted by: Down South | Feb 21 2023 10:38 utc | 245

So why can’t Germany just get Norwegian oil via Poland?
Posted by: Vragtes | Feb 21 2023 10:02 utc | 248
That is a tiny pipe. And Norway’s output isn’t scalable by that amount. There is no alternative to the pipe gas from Russia to Germany and others in Europe. They simply have to use much less and pay 4x-10x the price before for what they get. There are problems with oil too, different oils aren’t identical, factories have to be modified, each change will cost many billions.

Posted by: rk | Feb 21 2023 10:40 utc | 246

From IntelSlava

🇷🇺⚡Putin : family is the union of a man and a woman. So say the sacred books of all world religions. But the West is also trying to revise these sacred texts.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : The West will try to undermine and split our society. they relies on national traitors who exude the poison of contempt for their Fatherland. It has always been so.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : who has embarked on the path of direct betrayal, commits terrorist and other crimes, will be held accountable under the law. But we will not “hunt for witches”, settle scores with those who have abandoned their homeland. They have to live with it.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : we are all proud that our people have taken a principled position in relation to the SMO, understood the meaning of actions, supported our actions. This support showed real patriotism, a feeling that is historically inherent in our people.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : I want to thank all the people of Russia for their courage and determination, to say thank you to our heroes – soldiers and officers of the army and navy, employees of the National Guard, special services, patriots, volunteers.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : special words to the residents of the DPR and LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions. You yourself have determined your future, made a firm choice.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : we have started and will continue to build up a large-scale program for the restoration and development of new subjects of the federation. To revive enterprises and jobs, the ports of the Sea of Azov, which has become the inland sea of Russia.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : our duty is to support families who have lost relatives, loved ones. Help them raise their children, raise them, educate them. The family of each member of the SMO should be surrounded by care and honor.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : I propose to create a special state fund for targeted, personal assistance to the families of the dead soldiers and veterans of the SMO
🇷🇺⚡Putin : today both military personnel, and mobilized, and volunteers endure the hardships of the front together. Not all issues of supply and monetary allowance have been resolved.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : for all participants of the SMO, incl. volunteer, you need to establish a regular vacation of at least 14 days at least once every six months, excluding travel time.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : officers and sergeants who have shown themselves to be competent, modern and decisive commanders will be promoted to higher positions on a priority basis, sent to academies.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : the task is to launch mass production of the latest weapons. This work is underway, its pace is increasing.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : both experienced and young specialists work at our factories, in the design bureau, aimed at a breakthrough, true to the traditions of Russian gunsmiths – to do everything for victory.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : I propose to launch a special program of preferential rental housing for defense industry workers. A significant part of the payment for housing will be covered by the state.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : The West has deployed not only a military, informational, but also an economic front. Nothing has been achieved and never will be.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : the initiators of the sanctions provoked price increases, job losses, business closures, and an energy crisis in their own countries.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : The West tried to collapse the ruble, provoke inflation, steal reserves, break production chains. The goal of the West is to make our citizens suffer and destabilize society from within. The calculation was not justified.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : the share of the Russian ruble in international settlements doubled compared to December 2021 and amounted to 1/3, and with the currencies of friendly countries – more than half.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : defense is the highest priority, but we must not destroy our own economy. We have everything to ensure security and create conditions for the sustainable development of the country.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : changes in the structure of the economy are a vital necessity. We know what is necessary for the sovereign and confident development of Russia.
🇷🇺⚡️Putin : the banking sector has stood the test, turning a profit, inflation is under control.
🇷🇺⚡The banking sector has withstood the attack and looks like it will win. Let us all endure and win!
🇷🇺⚡Putin : it is necessary to strengthen the deoffshorization of the economy, business must operate in Russian jurisdiction.
🇷🇺⚡Putin: we remember what problems the late Soviet economy faced. The Russian economy was created on a market basis. However, in the end, our economy became oriented towards the West, as business was aimed at selling resources and making quick profits. It took years to break this trend, and we have achieved visible change.
🇷🇺⚡Putin: the image of the West as a safe haven turned out to be fake. Those who considered Russia only as a source of income have lost a lot. In the West they were simply robbed.
🇷🇺⚡Putin: none of the ordinary citizens of the Russian Federation regretted those who lost their accounts in foreign banks, lost their yachts. People remember both the privatization of the 90s and demonstrative luxury.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : those who grew up in the Donbass and Novorossia and fought for them should become the main pillar in the development of these regions.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : in early February, a NATO statement was made with the actual demand for Moscow to “return to the implementation of the strategic offensive arms treaty”, including the admission of inspections to our facilities. We know that the West is involved in Kyiv’s attempts to strike at our strategic aviation bases. Now they still want to inspect our defense installations? This sounds like bullshit.
🇷🇺⚡Putin : The United States and NATO openly say that their goal is to inflict a strategic defeat on Russia, and at the same time they are going to drive around our facilities? I have signed a decree on putting new ground-based strategic systems on combat duty. Are we going to let them in there?
🇷🇺❗A week ago, I signed a decree on putting the latest ground-based missile systems on combat duty.

Posted by: Down South | Feb 21 2023 10:44 utc | 247

From AZGeopolitics

Everything is in the past, our relations have degraded and this is entirely the merit of the United States — Putin
After the collapse of the USSR, the West is trying to fix its global dominance forever, ignoring everyone in general – Putin
The West is reshaping the world exclusively for itself, and NATO is putting ultimatums to Russia – Putin
The United States tried to break the architecture of international relations created after the Second World War, reshaping the world order for itself, Putin said
Russia suspends participation in the START III Nuclear Treaty – Putin
START III Nuclear Treaty is on hold -Putin
Defense Ministry and Rosatom must ensure readiness for nuclear tests – Putin
Putin: Washington is thinking about a natural test of nuclear weapons, there is such information
Putin: If USA will conduct nuclear tests, we will do the same
Putin: Nuclear weapons in the US, UK and France are aimed at Russia.
Russia will stand up to any challenges,we are confident in our strength,the truth is with us -Putin Speech is over…

Posted by: Down South | Feb 21 2023 10:54 utc | 248

Posted by: Down South | Feb 21 2023 10:44 utc | 250, 252…..
Thanks. Your transcriptions are greatly appreciated.
Na Zdravje! from Slovenia.

Posted by: Andrew Celestina | Feb 21 2023 10:57 utc | 249

So nothing major except 1) if the West sends long-range weapons, Russia will force the West further back from its borders, and 2) Russia suspends – not cancels – participation in the new START treaty.
No declaration of war, no new mobilization, nothing in particular about the SMO’s operational matters.
It is amazing how Putin laid out literally everything concerning the Russian economy and social matters and how they should be improved. Compared to the lame crap one gets from western leaders, it’s rather impressive.
As I’ve often thought, the only world leader today who could possibly be referred to as a “statesman” is Putin. Everyone else only comes up to his shoulder, if not his navel. Biden doesn’t even come up over Putin’s shoes – he’s more like the muck on the soles.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 21 2023 10:59 utc | 250

@Richard Steven Hack | Feb 21 2023 10:59 utc | 253
“It is amazing how Putin laid out literally everything concerning the Russian economy and social matters and how they should be improved. Compared to the lame crap one gets from western leaders, it’s rather impressive.
As I’ve often thought, the only world leader today who could possibly be referred to as a “statesman” is Putin. Everyone else only comes up to his shoulder, if not his navel. Biden doesn’t even come up over Putin’s shoes – he’s more like the muck on the soles.”
Agreed.

Posted by: the pessimist | Feb 21 2023 11:08 utc | 251

I think we will see action on the ground before we hear any more words from VP on the SMO

Posted by: the pessimist | Feb 21 2023 11:22 utc | 252

@ Turk152 205
The US harvests local rage, like Banderite rage against Russia in Ukraine. As I understand it Erdogan’s group got rich building holiday resorts in South East Turkey, so maybe there’s a little bit of bad feeling about dodgy building down there to exploit before his upcoming elections.
But that would work on a false assumption that Muslim Turkey would allow itself to be poked by Uncle Sam. Syria has demonstrated that it won’t be poked by 12 years of poking . Whoever comes next to the seat of power is going to be no better, or probably much worse than the one in power now.
But it is quite astonishing that non-Muslim Ukraine has allowed itself to be poked into a frenzy if Xenophobia, to the point of sacrificing all its males, and exporting all its females to the obvious dangers of being homeless abroad.
I’m not going to blame the US for earthquakes, nor blame the Ukranians for being gullible about Uncle Sam , and bulldog Johnson bearing gifts. Britain seems to be in a swooning love affair with both of them. So we’re not in a good position in our glasshouse, to throw stones at anyone, even if they are both quite capable of any crime imaginable.
I just hope we don’t get allow ourselves to be duped by Polish generals telling us Russia is losing on Breakfast time BBC Radio 4.

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 21 2023 12:25 utc | 253

Thanks for the transcripts of VVP’s address, Down South. Much appreciated. I wasn’t expecting a radical declaration. The West’s Drama Queens have a monopoly on over-promising and under-delivering.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 21 2023 14:03 utc | 254

Noam @241
Looks like Democrat malarkey to me. I live in Minnesota. This state is totally dominated politically by the fact that the 9 Black Robes (aka the Extreme Courtesans) several years ago made a “ruling” that extended the “one man one vote” silliness to change the composition of the state senates from the original concept into that faux democratic hooha. Upshot of that is that currently the Democrap Former Labor party totally dominates the state due to the fact that the Twin Cities metroplex contains well over half the voters of the state.
Here in the U$$A, suburban voters rule. They possess a certain amount of agency while having effectually zero common sense. There are no traditions or value systems resident in these anti-communities. If the goddamned court had left well enough alone, there would be some balance in Minnesota between the ants nest and the entire rest of the state, including such urban areas as Duluth, Rochester and all the remaining modest-sized cities.
Politically, the U$$A at present does not need more faux democracy. It needs more balance. In one of Lincoln’s more telling speeches he exclaimed that “…you can fool some of the people all of the time”. That caveat prescription is writ large today.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 21 2023 14:22 utc | 255

then it is a relatively simple matter to place said individuals into positions of influence and authority to do one’s bidding.
Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 21 2023 2:25 utc | 146

So there are roughly 2 competing theories:
1. The Roths still control global banking through “false-fronts and facemen”, or via bribes and blackmail.
2. The Roths are yesterday’s bogeymen, who have divested much of their property in the UK and Europe, and seen their relative share of global wealth dwindle in the last 50 years. All due to the division of inheritances, typical idle rich pursuits, and the lack of motivation which typically infects later (de)generations of those of inherited wealth.
Again, I refer to the case of the Head of the French division of the Rothschild Bank who died a few years back, as only the 22nd richest billionaire in France. Also a heroin addict.
As for the “false-fronts and facemen” the identity of one or two would do.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 21 2023 15:24 utc | 256

The specific article I quoted from in post #133 is The defeat of Ukraine is becoming clearer. That article also says, “President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has asked his intelligence services (MİT) to investigate what is now only a hypothesis.”
In another article on voltairnet.org, According to Senator Diana Ivanovici Șoșoacă, earthquake in Turkey and Syria was caused by the U.S., more details are given:

Romanian senator Diana Ivanovici Soșoacă, speaking on 8 February before the Romanian Parliament, observed that:
One minute before seismographers detected the earthquake, Turkish gas and oil pipelines were shut down (NB. This is the only allegation we were unable to verify).
24 hours before the earthquake, 10 Western countries recalled their ambassadors from Ankara.
5 days before the earthquake, several Western countries, including Romania, issued a travel warning to Turkey without providing a motivation.
The earthquake that rocked Turkey and Syria was followed by more than 150 aftershocks, the most violent being the second one, not the first. Atypically, it had no epicenter, but erupted along a fault line over several hundred kilometers. Further tremors are likely to occur, including in Istanbul.

I’ve never heard of an earthquake with no epicenter. I just googled this, and https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/06/world/turkey-syria-earthquake-epicenter-maps-dg/index.html shows an epicenter for the initial quake. There’s a red dot also shown for the 7.5 magnitude aftershock, but it’s not labeled as an “epicenter”.
I don’t want to take time to look further into this.

Posted by: metamars | Feb 21 2023 16:24 utc | 257

@ aristodemos | Feb 21 2023 4:34 utc | 183 re : feminism in politics
You understand me.
In my fantasy, AOC appears with a whip, in black latex. Von der Lügen sits on a sofa, while Scholz, Macron and Borell play with their barbies on the floor. She whips all of them mercilessly, then BLM sweep in, and burn everything to the ground.
Erdogan as the DJ puts on cool techno music for the soundtrack.
Hopefully meanwhile we are at a safe distance, with refreshments and a nice buffet.

Posted by: Featherless | Feb 21 2023 16:31 utc | 258

Is the linked article anti-semitic? If not, why not? This type of question lurks in the background of any discussion of the Ukrainian power structure. How does one approach such a question reasonably, as opposed to making poorly-grounded accusations or skipping over the subject because of fear of getting dog-piled if you phrase your supposition in the wrong way?
Is the linked article well-grounded? If not, is it dog-whistling to those who are predisposed to jump to predictable conclusions?
https://www.unz.com/article/jewish-corruption-in-ukraine/

Posted by: John Schmeeckle | Feb 21 2023 17:44 utc | 259

It’s all quite obvious if you think about it. There IS an agenda and the U$$A regime has no agency. Those administrative bureaucrats simply follow orders. Top down control matrix.
Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 20 2023 19:03 utc | 38
Was it Marx (a Talmudist himself according to Henry Ford) who said “Capital knows no nose”?

Posted by: Gene Poole | Feb 21 2023 17:50 utc | 260

@emersonreturn | Feb 20 2023 20:34 utc | 59
@joey_n | Feb 21 2023 9:25 utc | 244
It is always a pleasure – and a delight to know that it is noticed 🙂

Posted by: Hermit | Feb 21 2023 21:02 utc | 261

@Featherless #263
I like BOC better than AOC:
https://youtu.be/vWbFFUlCnlc

Posted by: John Schmeeckle | Feb 21 2023 21:32 utc | 262

Governments in functioning democracies do not work that way.
Posted by: watcher | Feb 20 2023 21:19 utc | 69
German democracy and American democracy have always been functioning for what they were designed for: the plundering of people.

Posted by: Colin | Feb 21 2023 22:19 utc | 263

“One thing must be clear to everyone,” [President] Putin said. “The longer the range of the Western systems that arrive in Ukraine, the further we will be forced to push the threat away from our borders. It’s obvious.”
Could not be clearer.
Ukraine extending the reach of its military aggression consequently will mean an even further contraction of the Ukrainian state. National suicide now clearly becomes a terminal possibility.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Feb 22 2023 0:24 utc | 264

A goddess making ads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gyYFIfmvr0
A goddess with 80 yo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRpCn9SGZDw
A goddess because she is a spirit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlBF4VHGEFU

Posted by: Jeeva | Feb 22 2023 2:31 utc | 265

Some people are suggesting the US political system needs to be changed, eliminating the 2 Senators per state, direct democracy, etc.
They are incorrect. From a control system theory point of view, the US electoral system is an excellent adaptation to the mercurial views of the body public. All of the proposed ‘solutions’ actually work against this structure.
Let me expand: The members of the House are elected every two years. They are a periodic sample of the entire union. They have the power to initiate bills.
But the Senators serve six year terms, not two, and only 1/3 of the Senate is up for election every two years. They are a *lagging* sample of public opinion, and have the power to delay or amend bills.
The President is elected every four years, right in the middle of the house and senate. Again, he is not elected by direct democracy, but by an electoral college.
All of these are mechanisms to prevent the people from being seized by one issue just before an election, and turning over the entire government on it, perhaps in error. Three different samples, with three different weighting systems, and three different time periods: it’s a marvel of control system design.
The House has no weighting: each district is supposed to be roughly the same number of voters. It represents the “direct democracy” portion of the system.
The Senate is weighted, 2 per state. This gives every state the same number of votes, regardless of population. If the Senators were appointed on the basis of population, then their makeup wold be the same as the House. The 1/3 turnover rule ensures that the makeup changes more slowly than the House, again to prevent any rapid demogagic moves.
The voting for President is weighted another way: the Electoral College. Although EC votes are population-weighted, like the House, it is not 100% the same. California, with a population of nearly 40 million has 55 EC votes; Wyoming, with a population just over half a million has 4. CA:WY population ratio is just under 80, but the ratio of EC votes is 55/4, or just under 14.
What this means is a President can’t just win, for example, the high population states on the coasts; he has to win in the centre of the country as well.
As I said, it’s a masterpiece of control system theory in practice. The failure of the system currently can be traced directly to “Citizens United” possibly the worst Supreme Court decision of the last 60 years.

Posted by: FrankDrakman | Feb 22 2023 3:56 utc | 266

Posted by: Unnamed | Feb 21 2023 7:19 utc | 217 — McCain unfortunately wasn’t wrong when he called Russia a “gas station masquerading as a country”.
And the US is a too-big-to-fail bank masquerading as a country.
Also, McCain was a devil masquerading as a human being.

Posted by: kiwiklown | Feb 22 2023 8:56 utc | 267