Posted by: Greg Galloway | Feb 2 2023 18:18 utc | 11
Not quite true. True with regards to timing, but not with regards to relevance. There is a high correlation between Certain Surnames and Jews , but as you say it is certainly not definitive. Ie a Jewish – sounding surname is not always sported by a Jew.
As for the handwringing – types amongst us. Yes, truthful or untruthful posts about Jews -that are not all approving -are quickly called “antisemitic “ by the former handwringers. This is not always deserved. The sad thing is they are also called out by types who wish to stop discussion or people’s eyes being opened.
Jack no 1.
You have put up the same post .Try to mix it up a bit ; with more thorough research and put it in the “non-ukraine” section. Otherwise, B will have good reason to remove your post .

Posted by: Brother Ma | Feb 2 2023 23:52 utc | 104

moses@100
As we all are spirits living a material, 3rd Dimension lifetime, I seem to be a bit lacking of an existential fear. Thus, though I despise the Mo$$ad (“By Deception, you shall make war”…from Deuteronomy or some similar goddamn text,) that evil entity frames their motto.
There are many evil entities out there. Their greatest power is the imposition of fear. Some famous old Jew informed us with a couple simple words: “Fear Not”.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 3 2023 0:00 utc | 106

aristodemos @99–
My thinking has gone to RoW being the saviors for they have agency while we don’t. The overall answer is more complex and is a current project.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 3 2023 0:03 utc | 108

Likklemore @101
Thanks for the news on Egypt and BRICS. That this took place when Sisi addressed their parliament immediately following the house-call by the Talmudist Supremicist, Winkin, Blinken and stinken, is both apt and to the point.
Message delivered.
Decades of bribery paid for by the American taxpayer, have not succeeded in keeping Egypt within the grasp of the Bank$ters and their minions in high places.
A knight has been added to the geopolitical chessboard. Brics are falling upon the dreams and schemes of highest finance capitalist imperialism. The Islamic world is veering away from its prior effectual neutrality. Much of the Muslim leadership have been educated at the world’s oldest university in Cairo. There are many lingering ties. The next domino to stand up could be Indonesia, with the world’s largest Muslim majority population.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 3 2023 0:10 utc | 110

Likklemore @101–
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I was aware of that action. It’s one of the many components of the project I mentioned @110. There’re a great many similar actions akin to Egypt’s that’re currently ongoing and providing color to the Big Picture. Occasionally a black smudge appears like the one related to Marcos rechaining Philippines to the Outlaw US Empire, which IMO will soon cause his political demise. The few RoW PM and President pawns the Empire controls differ little from Bolsonaro–stay in power long enough to gain that rest-of-life Florida getaway.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 3 2023 0:15 utc | 112

The anti-Semitic posts on this site need to stop immediately as they are vile and corrosive. Just because official Red Cross records from right after the war show a rise in the Jewish world wide population, doesnt mean they’re true. Obviously the Red Cross was infiltrated by Nazi sympathizers with the help of the Vatican.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Feb 3 2023 0:19 utc | 114

@ Brother Ma | Feb 2 2023 23:52 utc | 106
so now it is okay to remove his post… you are a funny dude brother ma…

Posted by: james | Feb 3 2023 0:27 utc | 116

Posted by: james | Feb 3 2023 0:27 utc | 118
Once again , you “move the goal posts” , James. I have always said B should remove the post if he thinks it dangerous or OFF – TOPIC for UKRAINE Threads .What I also said was that it should not be taken down SIMPLY BECAUSE it talks about Jewish topics. Get it right.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Feb 3 2023 0:32 utc | 118

Lurker from Moscow @ 107
Spent half an hour today with a friend who is retired Chief Electrician for Lawrence Livermore Laboratories. He really liked Telegram when he had it, had given up, tried to help me and just could not. All the same problems as when he had it are still there. He thought they basically do not want English speakers using the service.
Why does Hollywood win the information war?

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 3 2023 0:46 utc | 120

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 3 2023 0:12 utc | 113
Absolutely right ,Opportunity . Many Braunsteins did become Browns in the Anglosphere.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Feb 3 2023 1:07 utc | 122

An interesting Q&A on Ukraine in Canadian mainstream media, CTV.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/q-a-with-a-russian-warfare-expert-this-is-not-a-proxy-war-with-the-u-s-1.6257567
The expert providing answers is senior consulting fellow of the Russian and Eurasia Programme at Chatham House, an independent policy institute in London, U.K., author and Russian warfare expert Keir Giles. He gave a few statements that differ a little. [My two cents on Canadian propaganda, if you will, for domestic audiences: It tends to include British experts to highlight manoeuvring from more powerful countries. It has a distancing effect for Canadians, in contrast to the kind of propaganda that sucks you in, makes you feel personally involved, which may be considered, somewhat derisively, American.]
“Russia today isn’t a product of President Putin, it’s the other way around. President Putin is just putting into action all of the assumptions that have widely held within Russia about what Russia should be.” [Wait, wait, let me pause a moment on this… it’s not all about Putin??]
“The campaign of deterrence by Russia has been so effective that the U.S. has been very restrained.”
“Q: How real is the nuclear threat?
Giles: It’s not.”

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Feb 3 2023 1:19 utc | 124

Give Jack @1 a break. He is clearly descended from ALL the following Jewish comedians:
Jack Carter
Jack Benny
Jack Black
Jack Gilford
Jack Siroff
Jack Davis
Jackie Mason
John (Jack) Lobito
and last but not least, Joan (Jackie) Rivers
I have used the same methodology here to assemble his list as Jack did for his. By all means, Jack, add these names to your list.

Posted by: mjh | Feb 3 2023 1:30 utc | 126

@ Deplorable Commissar | Feb 3 2023 0:10 utc | 111
Dear deplorable Comrade.
Apparently, you are suggesting the BRICS member countries are so poor without a USD$0.01 in their combined bank accounts.
Sadly, it is quite deplorable you are not well read.
20 September 2006, on the proposal of President of Russia, V. V. Putin, the first BRICS Ministerial Meeting was held – venue was on the sidelines of UN General Assembly. How apt?
Founding members are:
Brazil Russia India China South Africa
now the foundation of the unfolding Multi-Polar World Order.
The five member countries represent 42% of world population and that is before the 22 countries seeking memberships are included.
In 2015 BRICS (New) Development Bank was launched with authorized capital $100 billion. Watch, in time, it will be replacing IMF and World Bank
Fast forward, In 2022 on every well-informed mind the BRICS org is now referred as BRICS+
[Of the 22 applying for Membership: Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Uruguay, Iran, Turkey, Morocco, Argentina, Mexico.
BRICS Portal: infobrisc.org
BRICS reserve currency next up..
A helpful read from Egypt: LINK
The vice-president of the Economic Committee of the House of Representatives, Mohamed Abdel-Hamid, affirmed that joining the institution benefits the country.
“We will benefit from the Bank’s financial and technical assistance in areas such as sustainable development, health, infrastructure, transportation, water, and telecommunications,” he said.
The addition of Egypt will also relieve the state budget of the pressure to find dollars to meet imports because members of that bank can use their national currencies in bilateral trade, he said. [.]
Legislator Mervat Mattar, stated that “the BRICS group is an important forum that can divert the course of the international economy from US and dollar dominance.” He also welcomed the Russian central bank’s decision a week ago to add the Egyptian pound to its list of foreign currencies exchangeable for rubles. (emphasis added)
There; in other words, Egypt will no longer need a hand out from Uncle Sam whose IOUs (AKA Bribes, UST Bills and Bonds) are being shunned. And countries’ USD reserves, held in any Custodial entity, can no longer be considered safe from seizure. What does this shunning of U$D means for the average Joe and Jane residing in the once exceptional country? We will soon find out.
Don’t take my posit as BS. The dollar’s death certificate was signed by KSA’s Minister of Finance, January 18, 2023, at Davos, Switzerland. Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of U.S. Treasury, (no doubt you have heard of him) wrote 2 days ago”
Washington’s Power Will Decline with the Dollar

Saudi Arabia’s recent announcement that the government is open to accepting payment for oil in currencies other than the dollar is a major announcement ignored by the presstitutes. The end of the petrodollar would have severe adverse effects on the value of the dollar and on US inflation and interest rates. 
For a half century the petrodollar has supported the value of the US dollar and ensured financing for America’s large budget and trade deficits. By billing for oil in dollars, the Saudis guaranteed a worldwide demand for US dollars.
Without this demand for dollars, the constant increase in the US money supply would have eroded the dollar’s exchange value in terms of other currencies. As the US has offshored so much of its production for home use, the US is import-dependent, and the widening trade deficit would have eroded the dollar’s exchange value and resulted in high inflation.[.]
https://www.unz.com/proberts/washingtons-power-will-decline-with-the-dollar/

Best wishes.

Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 3 2023 1:37 utc | 128

oldhippie @122 “Why does Hollywood win the information war?’
Very good question. What comes out of Hollywood is seen as cool, sexy, fun. What we get from the Kremlin is austere, authoritarian and sometimes scary. This is an oversimplification but the best I can do.

Posted by: dh | Feb 3 2023 1:43 utc | 130

Can’t make this stuff up:
US senators issue NATO ultimatum to Türkiye
RT:

‘Unblock membership for Sweden and Finland or no F-16 jets for you, said 25 lawmakers’
A group of 25 US senators from both parties has informed President Joe Biden that Congress will not approve the sale of F-16 fighters to Türkiye unless Ankara stops blocking Sweden and Finland’s application for NATO membership.
After the US kicked Türkiye out of the F-35 program over Ankara’s purchase of Russian-made S-400 air defense systems, the two NATO members negotiated a deal for 40 new F-16 jets and 79 modernization kits. Congress gets the final approval, however, and the Senate NATO Observer Group on Thursday let Biden know that it will require a quid pro quo to make that happen.

“Congress cannot consider future support for Türkiye, including the sale of F-16 fighter jets, until Türkiye completes ratification of the accession protocols,” says the letter, signed by Democrats and Republicans alike and made public by Senator Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire.
Ankara is holding up the applications by Stockholm and Helsinki namely the Russia-Ukraine conflict, the senators noted.[.]
In last week’s hearing before the committee, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland said the State Department had made it clear to Türkiye that “Congress is likely to look far more favorably on that after ratification,” referring to the F-16s.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan told the parliament in Ankara on Wednesday that “there would be a price” to pay if the US reneges on the F-16 deal. Asked to clarify the remarks on Thursday, his spokesman Ibrahim Kalin told CNN International that it was referring to the US military industry.[.] (emphasis added here)

“We have been developing our own national capabilities,” Kalin said. “Our drones have really shown to the world how capable they are in [the] worst moments, in our defense. So we will simply develop our own national capabilities and the US defense companies will be on the losing end in all of this.”
“If the American Congress makes NATO accession process a precondition for the F-16 program, they can wait for a long time, we are not tying the two together,” he added. [.]

These senators need a lesson in geography and they are going for full rupture.

Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 3 2023 2:05 utc | 132

@134 Likklemore
Great- that’s the best news I have read today.
Turkey giving the middle finger to the geriatric clowns in the US parliament of whores.

Posted by: Chris | Feb 3 2023 2:21 utc | 134

oldhippie | numerous posts re Telegram
Telegram Support:
“If you have any other questions, please contact Telegram Support (in Telegram go to Settings — Ask a question). Note that we rely on volunteers for support.
If you can’t log in to your account, please use this form.
For media requests, please contact @PressBot on Telegram.”
“This form” (link) can be found on their website. I hope this helps.

Posted by: Sektion2B | Feb 3 2023 2:35 utc | 136

DepCom@216
Obviously, Deplorable Commissar sometimes makes wild leaps into the wild blue yonder.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 3 2023 2:42 utc | 138

So a revolution in the world order is underway. But don’t make the mistake of thinking that Chinese hegemony will be better than American. Russia needs to be guided back to the west. I sense the metaphorical sound of pennies dropping in washington and the eu.

Posted by: Oh | Feb 3 2023 2:50 utc | 140

Posted by: krollchem | Feb 3 2023 1:40 utc | 131
“Second – Ramzan Kadyrov is a colonel general. There are only eleven generals who hold a higher rank than Kadyrov in the Russian Army. The highest rank in the Russian military is Field Marshal which is currently vacant.”
Nonetheless, in his bio I see no indication that he went through the Russian military higher education.
According to Wikipedia, “Kadyrov was given the rank of major general in July 2020, through an executive order of the Russian President. He added on his blog that he had been transferred from Ministry of Internal Affairs to the National Guard of Russia.” And “On 28 March 2022, President Putin promoted Kadyrov to the rank of lieutenant general.” And “On 5 October 2022, Kadyrov announced that President Putin had promoted him from lieutenant general to the rank of colonel general.”
Therefore it seems clear that his appointment was a political decision by Putin, nothing more.
His actual education is as follows:
“Kadyrov graduated with a degree in law from the Makhachkala Institute of Business and Law in 2004.[251] In 2006, he defended his thesis at Dagestan State Technical University to obtain a Candidate of Sciences degree in economics.”
This is the sort of person Martyanov would describe as someone who knows “shit from shinola” on military planning.
His “brilliance” at war may not be in question. Although I would question this statement by him:
Chechen’s Kadyrov: Russia should use low-yield nuclear weapon in Ukraine
https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2022/10/01/Chechen-s-Kadyrov-Russia-should-use-low-yield-nuclear-weapon-in-Ukraine
“Given Kadyrov’s relationship with Putin, his viewpoint carries more weight than most of the Russian General staff who are generally more detached from the front lines.”
Provide evidence of that or take it down the road as bullshit.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 3 2023 3:00 utc | 142

*cough*
Barflies may have missed or not attached any significance to 2 recent statements. Put down the Kool Aid and ponder this…
1. Kremlin press release 1 Feb – “We see how NATO’s entire military infrastructure is working against Russia, and we see how NATO’s entire intelligence infrastructure, including reconnaissance aviation, and satellite groupings are working in the interests of Ukraine in a 24/7 mode.”
2. President Putin (Stalingrad celebration)- “Those seeking to defeat Russia on the battlefield apparently do not realize that a modern war with Russia would be entirely different for them. We’re not sending our tanks to their borders. Yet we have something to respond with, and it would not be limited to armor use only, everyone must realize that.”
*wink*

Posted by: Suresh | Feb 3 2023 3:05 utc | 144

I’d like to make a further point which it seems few people comprehend about the Russian SMO so far.
The Russian General Staff, in my opinion, clearly anticipates the entry of NATO into the war. Why?
Because they have clearly husbanded their military force in Ukraine from the get-go in order to have the bulk of the regular Russian army available to engage NATO in the future.
Look at the forces they sent in at the start of the SMO and the forces which have conducting the bulk of the ground fighting ever since.
The Donbass militias – which are not regular Russian army, nor are they trained and equipped to Russian army standards (at least until recently)
The Rosgvardia – which are not regular Russian army, they are a militarized police force used for counter-terrorism and security.
The Chechens – ditto.
The Volunteer Battalions – ditto.
The Wagner Group – ditto (although many of them presumably have previous Russian military experience and in any event have a lot of experience elsewhere in the world.)
All these people are considered “expendable” by the Russian General Staff – and rightly so. If you don’t expect or intend a massive quick victory over the enemy, and you expect a more powerful enemy is waiting in the wings to swoop in after you’ve been bled somewhat by the initial enemy, you don’t commit your best forces until the initial enemy has been reduced by your less capable forces.
This is what has happened up to now in Ukraine.
This is why you haven’t seen that “grand offensive” we all thought would happen weeks and months ago. The Russians are waiting for their “expendable” forces – supported by regular army artillery, armor and air force – to grind down the Ukrainian forces until there is little chance of serious losses once the regular army takes over at some future time to finish off the Ukrainian military and take the country, which is when the threat of a NATO intervention will be at its highest.
The Russians used their regular military at the beginning of the war to make the initial advances into Ukraine and to threaten Kiev, hoping to scare the Ukrainians into surrendering at best and at worst as a feint to pin Ukrainian forces in place around Kiev while the initial Russian advances took place. Once that objective was achieved, the regular army retreated and has not been seen on the battlefield since except as forces holding the initial Russian lines in Kherson and elsewhere, and as support forces where needed while the “expendable” forces have done the bulk of the fighting in and around Donbass.
This is how Ukraine achieved their “offensive successes” In Kharkiv and Kherson – they either fought thinly supported Rosgvardia forces or retreating Russian regulars who made no attempt to defend ground. Once the Ukrainians ran into reinforcing Russian regulars, they were stopped cold.
Yes, this is a cold-blooded calculation by the Russian General Staff – and a correct calculation. This is how war is fought. Get used to it.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 3 2023 3:18 utc | 146

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Feb 3 2023 1:19 utc | 126
An interesting Q&A on Ukraine in Canadian mainstream media, CTV.
The guy is a nutjob. Just another propagandist and moron-a-la-Martyonov. Did a quick google search on him and looked for his qualifications. He’s an author. No mention of his degree that I could find; others may be more successful. He speaks fluent Russian, and spent time in Russia. Seems to have trained as a pilot, but no mention of service in the RAF. Though it is highlighted that he did some acting. Brilliant! /s
He did note that Russia’s unprovoked aggression and “savage” occupation of Ukraine (sic) is not just against Ukraine, but against everyone. Everyone!! And it’s not all down to Putin – oh no. Putin is just giving voice to Russian indignation that it’s not the center of the world. It’s a Russian thing. Seems to me that the west’s propaganda is now shifting to something along the lines of Russians are just inherently aggressive, brutal, and evil; that they don’t recognize the right of other countries to exist. The west has been building up to this for a while, but mostly has been putting everything on Putin, in the time honored way that we build up monsters of everyone from Kim to Ghadaffy to Sadaam to anyone we don’t like; everyone is a Hitler and if only we got rid of that one guy, then we’d all be friends.
But now, it’s just all Russians. Juxtapose that with the recent statements of Lech Walesa, or the statements of the various members of the polish govt, and it looks like there is a genuine drive to create consensus that Russia just needs to disappear. Check out Gile’s video below to see what I’m driving at.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiuVZ-kx9pE

Posted by: Scuppers | Feb 3 2023 3:21 utc | 148

Damn my father is Palestinian and after reading that first post even I started to wonder if we’re really jewish

Posted by: Test | Feb 3 2023 3:35 utc | 150

Hack @81 proves himself to be, well, a cretinous hack, though I knew that already. Hey, Hack, when is your gasbag idol Martyanov, or for that matter you, going to volunteer at the frontli?
Oh, right, never. You’re both too cowardly and hypocritical for that.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 3 2023 3:50 utc | 152

@jack nailed it.

Posted by: Rhinoskerous | Feb 3 2023 3:54 utc | 154

Test @ 152
Surprises me if you are unaware of the Johns Hopkins DNA study several years ago. Their research found that the Palestinian genome is 85% derived from the ancient Hebrews. Makes sense. When Titus and the other emperors deported a bunch of the Jews after their most recent rebellion, those who got kicked out of the place were exclusively elitist Talmudists. The peasantry, the craftsmen, the workers of all types remained in place as the Empire enjoyed their olives and wines, as well as taxation from the everyday merchants.
Ironic thing today is that most of those who holler “antisemitism” should be siding with the aboriginal Palestinians who over the centuries became Christians and more centuries embraced Islam…rather than the now ruling immigrants whose ancestry devolves from a swath running from northeastern Anatolia to southwestern Kazakhstan. Their ruling Kagan obliged his subjects to convert to Talmudic Judaism. Thus the ruling elite in the Zionist entity (aka Occupied Palestine) have no more direct connexion to that “Holy” land than Christians or Muslims.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 3 2023 3:58 utc | 156

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 3 2023 3:50 utc | 154
Having a rough day? Good. Could only be made better if b would ban your ass as the troll you are. You only come in here to run your mouth about Martyanov and claim you know better than the Russian General Staff (while never once discussing your own “qualification” for discussing military matters at all) while bloviating like a concern troll. Anyone who engages with you is wasting their time.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 3 2023 4:02 utc | 158

so many fake names for just one person.. very tiring…..

Posted by: james | Feb 3 2023 4:04 utc | 160

John Schmeekle @153
If you are descended in part by the Delano clan, you would have a bit of Portuguese Sephardic Jewish ancestry. You may already be aware that when they arrived in the states they were said to have been active in the slave trade. Well, most of us possess unknowns of some repute in the pool in which our DNA swims.
What stuns me is that your testing included some Norse DNA. All I can say is that two of my Norse ancestral strains came from parts of Norway which produced large numbers of Vikings. AND those Vikings really got around…perhaps the connection is from the Netherlands, a place where the Vikings raided, when their first incursion against the hated empire of Charlemagne the Holocaustian of the Old Saxons, was his mint city (3rd largest in the empire) and was named Dorestad. It was located on a branch of the Rhein which silted up over the centuries and is today part of inland Holland.
With such a combination swimming around inside you, additional of the Swiss branch, you would be a fairly average American and if settlement percentages were employed without further data input, you would most logically live in Wisconsin.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 3 2023 4:09 utc | 162

@ poster #158
The Palestinians descend from the Idumeans, formerly known as Edomites, sons of Esau, elder brother of the biblical Jacob. King Herod was an Idumean. Of course there were likely some remaining Hebrews in Palestine as well.
Presumably this discussion should be in the non-Ukraine area, although the Jewish identity of certain Ukrainians and Ukrainian-Americans seems to have provided grist for the mill.

Posted by: John Schmeeckle | Feb 3 2023 4:13 utc | 164

Slightly old news, but on 27th January Maria Zacharova made a really powerful and resounding statement regarding the German decision to send/permit Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine, and it demonstrates how poignant this is to the Russians in terms of the parallels with 1941. Two key strands include the image/role of current Germany in repeating history from WW2, and the total destruction of many decades of successful German foreign policy after WW2 (and of course, the total absence of German sovereignty, but of course that’s obvious anyway).
The relevant segment of text on the MFA website has finally appeared in the English transcript of a 3 1/2 hour press briefing, of which the key segment I reproduce below. My thanks again to “S” for help in locating the right briefing. The entire briefing can be seen here in Russian – turn on closed captions for English or download the subcaption file from downsub.com, but it is a rather poor autotranslate so I’d recommend reading the official transcription (below) first to get a better feeling of the intent. The relevant segment is at approx 1hr32min to 1hr48min.

Question: What is Moscow’s comment on the United States’ decision to supply Ukraine with 31 M1 Abrams tanks?
Maria Zakharova: I have repeatedly commented on this today. Once again, decisions – regardless of who makes them – on supplying Kiev with tanks indicate that the collective West is deliberately escalating the situation and raising the stakes in the conflict in Ukraine. Obviously, neither Kiev nor the West is willing to seek any diplomatic solution; there are efforts to block negotiations with Russia at the legislative level, persecute any negotiators in the country, and make demands (rather than requests) for supplying them with more weapons, as Western diplomats claim that any decisive action must be taken on the battlefield at this point, not through diplomatic efforts.
The West is open about its ultimate goal of achieving a strategic defeat against Russia. To achieve this, the US and its allies continue pumping Kiev’s neo-Nazi regime with weapons; they are willing to sacrifice all of Ukraine and its residents, whose interests are ignored by Washington and Brussels. Vladimir Zelensky does not care about his people one bit.
Some ask why we think this when he is allegedly doing all this for the sake of the people. And I will tell you that Zelensky had never been involved in politics. When he made a decision to run for president, he kept telling everyone he would be a president of “peace,” and the sole thing he was aiming at was “peace.” He kneeled and swore an oath. It is hard to say what gods he was addressing; judging by his actions, it initially looked like he was a non-believer. Now I think he is a believer – a believer in some force of evil and darkness. We have seen it all. They made a film about him, coming up with a particular public image created for him. A certain way of thinking was imposed on the people, who assumed he would be a commoner representing and following the will of people. Their goal was to make an impression. Back then, no one paid attention – but they should have. What finances were used to this end? Who was the mastermind? What technologies were used? He deceived people in a way that I believe no one has deceived anyone in recent history.
So, if he deceived people, can anyone actually believe him now when he says he needs all these tanks, money and military resources for the future of Ukraine? He is telling lies just as he lied when kneeling before the Ukrainian people, and just as he lied when asked about his addiction. He was lying than, and he is lying now. And there is only one reason: he has nothing to do with the Ukrainian people. He has never thought about those whose lives are now in his hands. He does not even see them as pawns. Every pawn is valuable in a chess game because it is your game and your resources. But for him, people are not even pawns; they are nothing to him. Money, rousing statements and applause are what matters to him; this is solely about personal ambition. Everything else is not just secondary but simply does not exist in the painful logic of this aggressive, ‘bloody little man.’
For its part, Russia has always remained open to the possibilities of utilizing diplomatic and negotiating tools, and we have repeatedly said this. This approach was used and then blocked by Kiev as the West told it to do.
The collective West, NATO and the EU have long abandoned diplomacy, choosing a different path instead. They have started creating a threat to security by starting a fire, by fueling it, and by simply pushing the European continent towards a global disaster.
What is happening now is not about Ukraine, Russia or even the European continent. It is a much larger, global issue.
You asked about the US decision to supply American tanks. But why point it out? Obviously, this stance applies to all countries. Only one of them stands apart, Germany. But this is another story.
We remember very well what German tanks are. They are machines that became a symbol not simply of death and the ideology of death, but of hatred for humanity and a global, existential threat to the entire planet.
When you read about fascism, Nazism and World War II, it then, I believe, becomes obvious that SS uniforms and German panzers with Third Reich emblems became a global symbol of humankind plunging into an abyss of hatred, horror and murder. Red Army soldiers and the anti-Hitler coalition pulled all of us out this abyss, both their contemporaries and those of us who were born later. Those were young people who fought on the front, and the home front workers who supported them. German panzers alone became an anti-symbol that was forever emblazoned in the memory of humankind. Today, they expect these tanks to roll through our territory again. In any event, it is what they were assigned to do.
What does Germany expect? Does it hope that armoured vehicles coated with camouflage paint and bearing crosses of iron, the symbols of the German armed forces, will, as before, drive through our cities and villages? We remember how it all ended before. Does Berlin remember? Most importantly, people in Berlin should realise that the Germans have no moral right to supply their armoured vehicles for hostilities against Russia.
I would like to draw your attention to a statement made at the German Parliament on January 25, 2023. Addressing Chancellor Olaf Scholz, Petr Bystron, a member of the German Bundestag, noted: “Mr Chancellor, this is a historic day. You have just destroyed the foundation of Germany’s post-war foreign policy. Germany bears special responsibility for the victims of World War II. For a long time, this was a core element of this country’s existence. I mean the 6 million Jews, as well as over 20 million men, women and children who were killed in the Soviet Union. Your predecessors, the great Social Democrats Willi Brandt and Helmut Schmidt, accomplished more than anyone else in the name of peace and reconciliation. Willi Brandt even received the Nobel Peace Prize for this. The slogan ‘Never again’ implied a refusal to send weapons to conflict zones. This has always been the core of German foreign policy.”
Everybody has their own way of writing their names into history. The people of Germany realise that Berlin has no moral, legal or ethical right to supply armoured vehicles and tanks to kill Russians.
We see plenty of video footage showing that even younger members of the Armed Forces of Ukraine speak Russian, among other things. They have been brainwashed by the Kiev regime, and many of them were forced to deploy to the front after they were rounded up all over Ukraine by the Nazis who, by the way, never leave their bunkers. They have pitted nations, peoples and even members of the same families against each other, making them so-called warring parties. Mothers are heartbroken because their sons are on different sides of the barricades. Over the years a lot has been done to tear Ukraine apart, with its difficult history, multi-ethnic composition and the first years of the notorious independence. So many Ukrainians dreamed about it. This independence should have started with responsibility, rather than permissiveness.
Nowadays, bloody dividing lines have pierced the hearts of a great many people. These regions have yet to experience the caterpillar tracks of German tanks.
And yet, Olaf Scholz went for it. Why? Frankly, because there are historical figures and there are others. There are people who would take a sure death defending their beliefs. Not because of pride or feeling exceptional but because they realise that this is what humanness means. Other people may have the political strength, material resources and support, including from voters, but they do not have the courage to make the right choice, to avoid their ancestors’ mistakes, including the mistakes for which the people of Germany paid an enormous price.
I would like to remind Mr Scholz of this (I would also like to remind Ms Baerbock, but I think there is no point) – or maybe tell him in case he does not know. When German prisoners of war were held in the Soviet Union after our victory, they were not tortured or mistreated like our soldiers and civilians were in German concentration camps. They were fed by the very people who not only lacked food but simply had had nothing to eat for many years. (This is to put it mildly. I would use different words in different circumstances).
My grandmother told me about this. All her life she considered bread the most remarkable food. She told me that the Soviet people, and she, a Russian person, in particular, shared that scarce post-war bread with German POWs after they had burnt down entire villages and killed children by forcing them into the houses that were to be set on fire. I asked her: “Grandmother, you did not have enough for yourself. How, after what you had been through, could you share your bread with the people who had wanted to kill you?” Do you know, Mr Scholz, what my grandmother replied? She said: “Masha, we felt sorry for them.” It was not a sympathy that you call tolerance. Feeling sorry meant loving, having the inner strength to share essentials even with enemies.
You in the West have long lost any idea of the true values rooted in love. It is impossible to believe that today, the West is supplying German tanks to a place where they already brought so much grief and suffering by killing tens of millions of people. It is also impossible to imagine that you understand the meaning of love, compassion, honour and conscience.
I remember very well the visit of the then Foreign Minister of Germany, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, to Volgograd with an official delegation in 2015. Repentant, he bowed to the graves of both Soviet soldiers and the German soldiers who perished on our territory. He said that this must never happen again. And now it is happening.
The day when Germany decided to deliver Leopards to Ukraine is historic, as a German parliament member said, also because it completely proved and cemented the fact which we have long talked about: Germany has fully lost its sovereignty. Olaf Scholz admitted to giving up on an independent Germany foreign policy forever. He gave up everything that his predecessors had built over the decades after World War II – and in which they succeeded, by the way.
I should say that we would not be surprised if Germany’s Leopards at the Bundeswehr were replaced not by new products from the German defence industry but by American Abrams tanks. After all, this is exactly what Washington wants. Why ask Berlin? Berlin is no more. Angela Merkel tried as much as she could to defend and balance Germany’s own national interests and the US administration’s enormous pressure on her and the German people. This is how Americans always treat an occupied country.
Washington declared its goals in 2022 during the Congressional hearings. US Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland said that Russia must sustain a strategic defeat.

Posted by: BM | Feb 3 2023 4:16 utc | 166

@Hack 160
Actually, my day is going well. When is that sack of intestinal gas Martyanov going to put his skin where his mouth is and go visit the Donbass, instead of insulting people from behind the safety of his keyboard? When are you?
So this is my challenge to you. Go to Donetsk and show me that you aren’t an arrangement little coward. I’ll remind you daily until you do.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 3 2023 4:42 utc | 168

So I came here today to get updates on the Russian – Ukraine SMO.
Instead I stumbled into a very dubious debate on genealogy.

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Feb 3 2023 4:55 utc | 170

@ Posted by: mjh | Feb 3 2023 1:30 utc | 128
You forgot:
Jack and Jill
Jack and the beanstalk
Jack the ripper.
Captain Jack Sparrow
Jack Sprat (could eat no fat)

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Feb 3 2023 5:00 utc | 172

The names list posted by “Jack” has been posted at least half a dozen times under other user names. Either by the same douche bag or a merry band of similar douche bags. A good number of the people complaining about naughty Jack either must be new and never seen it before or maybe working with “Jack’ to fill up and slow down this forum. Who really knows and who really cares about this stupid names list. In the end, its the not the important stuff that “Moon” provides. The world will never run out of assholes, so move on to something more relevant…

Posted by: DakotaRog | Feb 3 2023 5:17 utc | 174

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ #Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 2 Feb 2023⚡️
🔹#Russia’s Border Areas:
▪️ In #Belgorod region in Valuysky and Krasnogvardeysky districts, air defence systems were triggered, no damage information available.
🔹#Starobelsk Direction (MAP):
▪️ In the #Kupyansk area, Ukrainian troops are preparing to repel an attack by Russian forces at the #Gryanikovka – #Petropavlovka – #Sinkovka line. A Ukrainian SRG is operating in #Kislovka.
▪️ In the #Liman sector of the Russian 3rd Motorized Rifle Division, after artillery preparation, they started an offensive in the area of the #Zhuravka gully.
➖ At the same time, the 144th Motorized Rifle Division broke through the enemy defence line for two kilometres near #Yampolovka.
➖ In the area of #Serebryanskoye Forestry after an attack by the Russian troops, the Ukrainian Territorial Defence militants fled to the second line of defence.
🔹#Soledar Direction (MAP):
▪️ In the #Soledar area, Wagner PMC assault forces have occupied the village of #Nikolayevka, the capture of which opens the way to the #Fedorovka – #Razdolovka line.
➖ According to some reports, the enemy has begun to withdraw its troops from #Belogorovka.
▪️ Russian troops continue to destroy advancing enemy reserves near Krasnaya Gora and #Paraskoviyevka. More than 70% of the 5th AFU Border Guard Detachment has been eliminated.
▪️ In #Bakhmut (#Artyomovsk), the “Wagnerians” have expanded their zone of control near the Siniat plant, fighting has shifted to the intersection of Vatutina and Nekrasova Streets, and there is progress near Dobroliubova Street.
▪️ Southwest of #Bakhmut, Russian forces advanced in the wooded area, stopping two kilometres from the Chasov Yar – #Bakhmut highway.
➖ From #Krasnoye, the enemy began a partial withdrawal of units due to high casualties.
🔹#Donetsk Direction:
▪️ The Ukrainian Terrorist Forces continue to deliberately destroy residential areas and infrastructure in #Donetsk agglomeration. Several flats in the Petrovsky district of #Donetsk were destroyed by a direct shelling. Houses in Kirovsky and Kievsky districts were damaged, one person was injured by a petal mine.
🔹#Zaporozhye Direction (MAP):
▪️ On the #Orekhov and #Pologi sections, the AFU is strengthening their defence line, expecting an imminent offensive by Russian forces.
➖ The enemy is deploying militants of the 128th Separate Mountain Assault Brigade’s 15th Battalion and American armored vehicles.
▪️ The enemy is concentrating additional anti-tank crews on the #Belogorye – #Lugovskoye line.
➖ In #Gulyaypol and #Chervonoye, Ukrainian formations are reinforcing the grouping with mortar units.
➖ Units of the AFU’s 93rd Mechanized Brigade were spotted near #Shevchenko, having been re-staffed in the #Dnepropetrovsk region.
🔹#Kherson Direction on Southern Front:
▪️ Artillery duels continue along the entire line of contact, with RF Armed Forces units hitting AFU concentrations around #Kherson, #Antonovka, #Berislav, #Novokairy and Chervony Mayak.
In turn, the enemy terrorists again shelled the residential sector of Novaya Kakhovka, two houses were damaged and one person was injured.

https://t.me/sitreports/4088

Posted by: Down South | Feb 3 2023 5:36 utc | 176

Switzerland is reviewing its famous neutral policy after the outbreak of hostilities in Ukraine. The parliament in Bern tomorrow will discuss a call by politicians to consider legislative changes that would allow other countries to transfer Swiss-made weapons to Ukraine. The current policy states that Swiss weapons cannot be transferred to countries at war.
Moreover, it has just been revealed that leading Swiss politicians are now calling for the sale of 96 mothballed Swiss Leopard 2 tanks for just one symbolic franc to Poland, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic, replacing the tanks their governments plan to send to Ukraine.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/31799

Posted by: Down South | Feb 3 2023 5:38 utc | 178

Sales of fertile land, timber cropping up in Ukraine — Putin
Cases of fertile land and timber being sold in Ukraine are emerging, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday at a meeting with representatives of patriotic and youth organizations.
“I do not know who is selling Ukraine’s fertile land but the fact remains that it is happening. They are also selling timber, although there is not too much of it, not like in Siberia. The Carpathians will soon be bald there,” Putin said.
Sales of fertile land in Ukraine are still taking place, the Russian leader noted. “It is up to them,” he added.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/31806

Posted by: Down South | Feb 3 2023 5:42 utc | 180

The Armed Forces of Ukraine launched an artillery strike on 12 colleagues who wanted to surrender. All of them, most likely, died, retired Lieutenant Colonel of the People’s Militia of the LPR Andrey Marochko told TASS.
According to him, a white cloth was hung out instead of a flag near Kreminna at a stronghold of Ukrainian militants, and the senior post began to request the opportunity to surrender to 12 servicemen.
When “practically everything was ready for evacuation,” the Ukrainian troops opened “dense small arms fire and artillery strikes” on their colleagues.

https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/43203

Posted by: Down South | Feb 3 2023 5:44 utc | 182

@ Posted by: Down South | Feb 3 2023 5:38 utc | 180 with the myth of Switzerland neutrality.
Switzerland is the home of the private managed bank of the bankers, the BIS. Switzerland neutrality is part of the curtain hiding the God of Mammon cult from the world.
Thanks for your ongoing reporting of Russia MOD reports and such….just the right amount, IMO.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 3 2023 5:49 utc | 184

b
You are great. Thank you.
The fact that so much time is taken up by complete nonsense and things which the overlord masters pulled out their asses, it means it works.
These are not highly intelligent people. But they are devious and determined. And more clever than the masses they are hypnotizing.
Chinese spy balloon 😂😂😂😂😂 omg
How stupid do they think we are?
Sad fact is. We are very stupid.

Posted by: CitizenKayne | Feb 3 2023 5:51 utc | 186

Posted by: Krollchem | Feb 3 2023 4:58 utc | 173
“While Martyanov has a good understanding of the math of war he lacks a full understanding of Col Boyd’s war theory.”
Bullshit. Provide evidence, not assertions.
“They represent the best urban combat forces Russia had for the recapture of critical cities.”
I never said they weren’t effective. I said they were “expendable”. Don’t put words in my mouth. They are not regular Russian army, they are either “special forces” – in the case of the Chechens, or they are “experienced” – in the case of Wagner – or they are “second-line” – in the case of the rest. What matters is my point that they are not regular Russian army, which is being held back to reduce losses in the event of a NATO intervention.
Address that point if you can.
“The Russian General Staff did fail to make the case to assemble a sufficient force to take on the Ukraine military that war poised to invade Donbass.”
No, they didn’t. Did the Ukrainians successfully invade Donbass? Then what are you talking about?
“Much if this failure could also be attributed to the Russian Duma which limited how many regular Russian Army troops could be deployed outside Russia.”
Bullshit. It has long been the case that conscripts aren’t allowed to fight outside Russia. It has nothing to do with the size of the force that entered Ukraine. As I explained, this force was calibrated to do one thing: take down the Ukrainians in the Donbass while holding other strategic areas and do it on a timetable known only to the General Staff – and not to anyone here.
“The Russian General Staff began the war as if they were fighting the last war which is a common failure of armies. Thus failure resulted in their rejection of offers for the mass production of Russian-made advanced drones in the early portions of the war and thus had to adopt Iranian drone technology to close the gap.”
I’ve seen no actual evidence of that assertion which has been made by many people. The case could be made that Russia didn’t think they needed as many drones as they had, or that it would be cheaper to acquire more from Iran than built them itself (assuming in fact that they aren’t building them itself which is by no means proven.) This is a case of prioritizing the budget.
In any event, Russia clearly hasn’t either run out of drones or has suffered any particular losses due to the number of drones it has. If you can prove otherwise, cite the figure and provide a link. Otherwise this is just more concern troll assertions without evidence.
“The Russian General Staff also failed to recruit sufficient forces at the beginning of the war to replace those who completed their six month service at the front. This oversight led to a static war where Russia had to train additional forces to make up the shortfall of contract troops.”
Another assertion that I haven’t seen any evidence for despite it being repeated by various parties. Cite an official Russian source that this actually happened or that it mattered on the front lines. My impression is that Russian forces have been regularly rotated in an out from available forces inside Russia.
“Your attitude about the Donbass militias demonstrates an ignorance of the Ukraine war against the Donbass where the militias were able to defeat the best units of the Ukraine army”
Once again, I didn’t say they were ineffective. I said they were not trained or equipped to Russian regular army standard and they were used to conserve the regular Russian army forces. Try to read what I said, not what you think I said.
“Those who didn’t follow the 2014-2015 war was have a lot to learn about what soldiers such as as “Texas” experienced.”
What he, or anyone else there, experienced is irrelevant to the design and implementation of the current conflict. Which is precisely what I said initially about Bently – he is not a high-level command officer and can only comment either on what he has personally seen or what higher-level officers – of a grade high enough to comprehend war planning and the political objectives of the SMO – have told him. He’s not competent to discuss military operations on a high level.
“Kadyrov’s troops are well-trained and Chechnya serves as a training group of many other units in urban warfare.”
Once again, your whole argument with me rests on things I didn’t say. I said these are not regular Russian army – that is a fact.They are Rosgvardiya. However effective they are, and I’m sure they are, they are still being used to conserve regular Russian military.
“he has excellent officers up to the rank of Colonel General to advise him.”
Never said he didn’t. In fact, I fully expect that to be the case.
ing and Belarus demanded that the Russian Chief of Staff lead the war.
“The Wagner Group could be described as the Russian equivalent of the French Foreign Legion and they are far better trained and experienced that the regular army with the possible exception of the Russian Airborne.”
I’d like to see evidence that their training is better than regular army. Experienced I can believe since they’ve been in various conflict zones. In any event, I said in my post that many of them are former Russian regular army. My point remains that they are being used to conserve regular Russian army forces.
“The problem that Putin faces is how to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine while avoiding nuclear war for as long as possible.”
On this, we agree, as I’ve said many times, Putin is “managing the NATO response.”
“On a personal note, the effects of Nuclear Winter as far worse than the academic researchers claim as they fail to consider all the factors leading to global cooling following a Nuclear exchange as I previously posted at this forum and the UNZ review.”
I don’t know whether nuclear winter is feasible or not and I don’t care. I’m not a climatologist. If you aren’t or haven’t seen the computer models in detail, I’d suggest being skeptical. Otherwise that is irrelevant to my points.
To recap: 99% of your “rebuttal” is rebutting things I didn’t say and completely missing the point of my post.
Nice try. Fail.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 3 2023 6:07 utc | 188

@Hack 183
Why are you such a snivelling little coward?

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 3 2023 6:10 utc | 190

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 3 2023 5:49 utc | 186
No problem.
It just shows how bad the situation on the ground is for Ukraine that Switzerland has to officially ditch its current faux neutrality to send weapons to Ukraine.

Posted by: Down South | Feb 3 2023 6:17 utc | 192

I’ll add one more point.
I’m quite sure that neither Kadyrov or Prigozhin have even been told what the General Staff operational plan is. The way both of those two men run their mouths, there’s no way the General Staff would allow them to know the highly classified military operational plan. They will be told just enough for them to direct their forces to the point the General Staff wants them and to do what they’re told.
So unless they’ve picked up some chit-chat from loose-lipped command-level officers who have been told the operational plan, they’re talking out of their hats, just like everyone else on the ground in Ukraine.
It’s been stated many, many times by all of the military analysts: No one – absolutely no one – knows what the operational plan of the Russian General Staff is or its timetable (if there is one) and no one – absolutely no one – knows what the goal of the Russian state with regards to Ukraine and NATO except Putin and his immediate team. And no amount of quoting from official Russian statements changes that fact, especially in the latter case. Putin will not and is not going to tell you what his endgame is, other than insuring Russian security interests the best way he can determine in general terms. How and when in specific terms is a highly classified secret.
As I’ve said many times here, when I say what Russia is going to do, I’m saying what I would do and what is the logical course for Russia to do based on its established security concerns. As I’ve also said, maybe Putin and the General Staff are dumber than I am. Somehow I doubt it. But I’m very sure they’re smarter than most of the people on this site and most of the pro-Russian analysts, let alone the anti-Russian analysts.
But I’ve been wrong before over-estimating human intelligence, so we’ll see.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 3 2023 6:42 utc | 194

These threads are so bunged up it’s like throwing a stone into a swamp.
Russia’s started ground testing its Marker combat robots (unmanned tank) in Donbass in preparation for seeing Abrams and leopard tanks.

Posted by: olaf22 | Feb 3 2023 6:58 utc | 196

Posted by: Nomad | Feb 3 2023 6:15 utc | 193
It’s been posted numerous times here in the past under different aliases as well. Hard to say if it’s the same person or whether the (blatantly idiotic) message appealed to several people who continue to copy and paste it wherever they are allowed to. And I still wonder why b leaves it up here given the increased scrutiny being paid to MoA both from allies and enemies.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 3 2023 7:08 utc | 198

@wagelaborer | Feb 2 2023 18:54 utc | 23
As long as Turkey is able to responds to and manage significant threats of violence and insurrection from American assets including the Kurds,it is probably in Turkey’s best interests to remain in NATO where it can veto NATO expansion and avoid sanctions on itself,

Posted by: Hermit | Feb 3 2023 7:22 utc | 200