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February 2, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-28
Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Please B, remove urgently this antisemitic bullshit posted by: Jack | Feb 2 2023 17:49 utc | 1 Posted by: Pnyx | Feb 2 2023 17:59 utc | 1 Return of industrial warfare, US Style (NYT)
I’ve worked in forges and industrial plants. Let it suffice to say, I’m unimpressed. What is their plan… 90,000 per month in 2025? Posted by: upstater | Feb 2 2023 17:59 utc | 2 If we had the opportunity to strike at a distance of 300 km, the Russian army would not be able to provide defense – Reznikov Posted by: rk | Feb 2 2023 18:01 utc | 3 @ Poster No 1
In bed with rabid dogs that do not recognize you as one of their own breeds? …. in bed with unwashed rabid dogs there’s the certainty you will be bitten and, at a minimum, you will catch fleas. Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 2 2023 18:04 utc | 5 People seem to view the US and minions involvement as idle meddling for fun and profit, but perhaps it also is deemed existential. There will be a loser. Posted by: jared | Feb 2 2023 18:10 utc | 6 Appears today MoA is checked for heavy duty Drive-by Trollers. Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 2 2023 18:11 utc | 7 @Likklemore | Feb 2 2023 18:04 utc | 6 Posted by: rk | Feb 2 2023 18:13 utc | 8 Just one word about post #1, to underline that JEW Surnames are very recent since most European Jews had no surname up to the end of the XVIIIth century. Posted by: Greg Galloway | Feb 2 2023 18:18 utc | 9 Everything seems to be going well for RU. UA seems utterly confused and not sure where the hammer will drop. The Oskil? Kiev? Sumy? Zapo? Even Odessa? Russia might have enough troops now for multiple strong offensives. UA shills seem demoralized with all the zrada and shortage of peremoga. Posted by: catdog | Feb 2 2023 18:31 utc | 10 pynx@2 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 2 2023 18:34 utc | 11 Translated, abbreviated, MOD Clobber list (02.02.2023)
Three Grad MBLRS & US M-142 “HIMARS” & M-270 “MBLRS” destroyed. Above average. ” Please B, remove urgently this antisemitic bullshit posted by: Jack | Feb 2 2023 17:49 utc | 1 Posted by: Deplorable Commisar | Feb 2 2023 18:39 utc | 13 Posted by: Jack | Feb 2 2023 17:49 utc | 1 Posted by: Deplorable | Feb 2 2023 18:41 utc | 14 Greg @ 11 (or maybe 10) Posted by: gottlieb | Feb 2 2023 18:44 utc | 16 The can of off-topic spam returns unabated! Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Feb 2 2023 18:46 utc | 17 by aristodemos Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 2 2023 18:47 utc | 18 Since I’ve already begun posting excerpts from the interview and my impressions on the previous thread, I’ll continue to do so. aristodemos | Feb 2 2023 18:47 utc | 20 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Feb 2 2023 18:54 utc | 20 Jack (variant of the Jew name Yaaqov) Posted by: wagelaborer | Feb 2 2023 18:54 utc | 21 Aristodemos @20 Posted by: htyul | Feb 2 2023 18:54 utc | 22 Unsolicited Public Service Announcement – If you feed or respond to the posts of what should be clearly apparent discernible trolls/trolling, this thread will become unreadable much like the last Ukraine Thread … 🙁 Analysis of the Leopard 2 against Russian tech in rhyme. Posted by: meshpal | Feb 2 2023 19:04 utc | 24 What to make of the disagreements within NATO or will it end in a wider fracture:
2. Surprising Bulgaria is not with narrative
Then there is this:
all other types of weapons Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 2 2023 19:12 utc | 25 Posted by: Outraged | Feb 2 2023 18:34 utc | 14 Posted by: unimperator | Feb 2 2023 19:12 utc | 26 It certainly seems as though RF forces have most of their upgrades and troop increases on line now. Posted by: Chevrus | Feb 2 2023 19:14 utc | 27 @ wagelaborer | Feb 2 2023 18:54 utc | 23
Missing /s ? 😉 @ Outraged | Feb 2 2023 19:32 utc | 30 Post #1 is intended to grab attention of German authorities and get them to go after B. Posted by: Exile | Feb 2 2023 19:48 utc | 30 Turkey must be getting pressure to ease up on the Posted by: Johnycomelately | Feb 2 2023 19:53 utc | 32 As to NATO unity it’s so solid that greek coastguards shooting at turkish coastguards isn’t a problem, it’s a sign of strength. Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Feb 2 2023 19:55 utc | 33 Gottlieb no. 18 Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Feb 2 2023 20:00 utc | 34 Please B, remove urgently this antisemitic bullshit posted by: Jack | Feb 2 2023 17:49 utc | 1 Posted by: jpc | Feb 2 2023 20:09 utc | 35 ⚡️ US is advising Ukrainian forces give Russia a symbolic victory and play for time to allow tanks and other weaponry to arrive Posted by: unimperator | Feb 2 2023 20:16 utc | 36
Posted by: Down South | Feb 2 2023 20:20 utc | 37
Posted by: Down South | Feb 2 2023 20:22 utc | 38 The answer is no. Absolutely not. Multiply each of those figures by 30, 90, 180, 360 days … it is over, we just don’t know the end date re presentation of unconditional terms yet. Manpower is meaningless without the arms materiel. And the manpower is another critical issue … Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 2 2023 20:23 utc | 39
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/31749 Posted by: Down South | Feb 2 2023 20:27 utc | 40 UK backtracking, whilst a few days ago they said some rubbish about “sophisticated equipment”: Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Feb 2 2023 20:27 utc | 41 https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/International/South-Korea-Reinforces-Its-Position-In-European-Defense-Market.html Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 2 2023 20:27 utc | 42 > Posted by: Tov | Feb 2 2023 19:49 utc | 33 Posted by: Zweckpessimist | Feb 2 2023 20:38 utc | 43 So you mean the ancient goblet found in Jerusalem with the name Weinstein engraved upon it was a fake? Posted by: Greg Galloway | Feb 2 2023 20:40 utc | 44 https://www.thepostil.com/1993-the-barry-r-posen-plan-for-war-on-russia-via-zombie-state-ukraine/?fbclid=IwAR0MzcBw_eLZZrZTuheEVuHQGRMDGi0X23Gx-Mzgk8xUZYuGdgHpm8b6APg
It refers to a report by Barry R. Posen (Rand, CFR, MIT, Woodrow Wilson Foundation). Posted by: luiscborges | Feb 2 2023 20:45 utc | 45 As for the infamous post (which is a repeat, no?) at the top of this thread. It’s actually kind of funny. ‘This name might be a derivate of another name that sounded like it could have been…’ Posted by: gottlieb | Feb 2 2023 20:46 utc | 46 Russell Bentley, whom I’ve known personally for years, asked me to post the following message to Richard Steven Hack: Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 2 2023 20:47 utc | 47 @ Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 2 2023 20:47 utc | 48 Posted by: too scents | Feb 2 2023 21:15 utc | 48 Posted by: Outraged | Feb 2 2023 19:32 utc | 30 Posted by: NoName | Feb 2 2023 21:17 utc | 49 Re antisemitic posts pretending to be objective, b’s article announces a victory, his analysis has finally been backed up by people with clout. I forward it to people who have written him off. Then jack monomaniacally serves up a reason for them to keep doing so. Posted by: dadooronron | Feb 2 2023 21:20 utc | 50 Posted by: Outraged | Feb 2 2023 19:48 utc | 31 Posted by: NoName | Feb 2 2023 21:24 utc | 52 What do people think of the ongoing purges inside Ukraine. One view is that it is a US sponsored event to isolate Zelensky prior to forcing his ouster and replacement with someone more compliant to American advice. Another Diem like coup to complete the takeover of Ukraine. Posted by: Dan Farrand | Feb 2 2023 21:27 utc | 53 Many keep talking about the Spring offensive. I don’t think Putin is going to wait until Spring to spring forward. As soon as the ground freezes solid again, the RF will be on the move again in a strategic way to eliminate the AFU. Posted by: young | Feb 2 2023 21:31 utc | 54 @Biswapriya #48 Posted by: OohCanada | Feb 2 2023 21:33 utc | 55 Germany open to idea West behind Nord Stream sabotage – article published by the other venerable rag – The Times.co.uk
A Western nation, eh? Dangerous conspiracy theories and wild speculations? Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 2 2023 21:37 utc | 56 Eigthman @43– 1/ “…If we had the opportunity to strike at a distance of 300 km, the Russian army would not be able to provide defense – Reznikov…” rk@4 Posted by: bevin | Feb 2 2023 21:41 utc | 58 No offense but Kadyrov and Pregozhen do not share your opinion Posted by: Greg Galloway | Feb 2 2023 21:41 utc | 59 exile@32 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 2 2023 21:43 utc | 60 Posted by: young | Feb 2 2023 21:31 utc | 55 Posted by: unimperator | Feb 2 2023 21:48 utc | 61 A retired Czech police officer estimates the number of Ukrainians that find themselves within the borders of the Czech Republic on 700.000 (Source: Czech FB). Posted by: Oblomovka daydream | Feb 2 2023 21:49 utc | 62 aufgrund der nichtlöschung des 1.tweets verabschiede ich mich als leser von dieser seite. Posted by: mimu | Feb 2 2023 21:50 utc | 63 I provided the translated text of Putin’s Stalingrad anniversary speech but few have commented upon it. RT cites what it calls “Putin’s warning to West” when he says that Russia doesn’t need to send its tanks to those nation’s borders as it has other means: The anti-semitic nonsense posted by Jack just reeks of a false flag operation. Posted by: ian | Feb 2 2023 21:58 utc | 65 Posted by: unimperator | Feb 2 2023 21:48 utc | 62 Posted by: young | Feb 2 2023 22:07 utc | 66 @ karlof1 Post 65 Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 2 2023 22:08 utc | 67 “aufgrund der nichtlöschung des 1.tweets verabschiede ich mich als leser von dieser seite.” Posted by: Hausmeister | Feb 2 2023 22:09 utc | 68 If you wish to discredit a blog, post something anti-semitic. If the post is not removed, the blog is of dubious repute. If the post is removed, the blog does not respect freedom of speech. Posted by: Passerby | Feb 2 2023 22:12 utc | 69 luiscborges@46 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 2 2023 22:15 utc | 70 Posted by: Dan Farrand | Feb 2 2023 21:27 utc | 54 Posted by: catdog | Feb 2 2023 22:16 utc | 71 Posted by: Zweckpessimist | Feb 2 2023 20:38 utc | 44 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 2 2023 22:18 utc | 72 @ #20, thanks for informative comment. BTW you wrote “At this point, artillery interdiction of exit routes indicate that any retreat will be strictly by shanks mare.” In case there are one or two on MOA who never heard of the idiom “shanks mare,” I was curious to learn “shanks mare” refers to “one own legs” Posted by: Willow | Feb 2 2023 22:19 utc | 73 by aristodemos Posted by: Derek Henry | Feb 2 2023 22:21 utc | 74 @Willow, 74 Posted by: George | Feb 2 2023 22:29 utc | 75 @mimu Posted by: Apollyon | Feb 2 2023 22:31 utc | 76 There was a lot of talk about an “off ramp” for the Russians the middle of last year. Posted by: jpc | Feb 2 2023 22:32 utc | 77 Russia won the war when the Russian army withdrew from Kiev. You may assume the occupation of Kiev by the Russian army to have been war-gamed to exhaustion: Russian army barracks would have been attacked by truck-bombs, like the truck-bomb used to attack the Kerch bridge. Anti-tank weapons and manpads would have decimated tanks and helicopters. Looking back, it was wise of Russia not to bite the poisoned apple. Posted by: Passerby | Feb 2 2023 22:33 utc | 78 karlofi1@58 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 2 2023 22:36 utc | 79 Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 2 2023 20:47 utc | 48 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 2 2023 22:40 utc | 80 Liebes mimu, Posted by: Orgel | Feb 2 2023 22:46 utc | 81 The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine does not care about the number of casualties among the military, the main thing is the fulfillment of the task. This was stated by Alexei Arestovich. Posted by: unimperator | Feb 2 2023 22:55 utc | 82 Dear Jack @1, Posted by: Theodore Roosevelt | Feb 2 2023 22:56 utc | 83 Likklemore @68– Saw this on the RWA Telegram channel. If you enjoyed the Musicians’ Best in Hell, you will probably enjoy this, which is less a dramatization and more a documentary on the Donbass militia before the SMO. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 2 2023 23:00 utc | 85 Bevin @ 59 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 2 2023 23:01 utc | 86 Another example of ‘Projection’
In other words, private contractors from the U.S. exhibit criminal behavior. Yet we accuse the ‘Wagner Group’ of being 80% convicts. Posted by: Christian Chuba | Feb 2 2023 23:01 utc | 87 Connecting dots…… Posted by: HERMIUS | Feb 2 2023 23:09 utc | 88 Ukrainian vodka has been on sale in many places in the US for a year or so. Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Feb 2 2023 23:09 utc | 89 unimperitor @62 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 2 2023 23:15 utc | 90 @82 Posted by: pappy | Feb 2 2023 23:18 utc | 91 FYI. Posted by: BG | Feb 2 2023 23:19 utc | 92 please remove the anti khazar hate speeches now my life already or pay us compensation Posted by: benji bj klein | Feb 2 2023 23:25 utc | 93 Asked before, asking again. I had Telegram for some months, it was always hinky and there was absolute zero user support. It periodically disappeared and with some effort I would get it back. Cannot possibly repeat those steps because it was all fumbling around describing vast loops. Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 2 2023 23:28 utc | 94 Dan Farrand@54. I have been taking a serious look at the purges in the Ukie Govt. Firstly, I think there is far too much emphasis on the fact Ze is being totally controlled by the USA. I agree he is to some extent but it’s less than is estimated. It’s become a sort of excuse to remove any type of responsibility from him for his actions. He is, there can be no doubt, suffering from an extreme Narcissistic Personality Disorder with strong psychopathic traits which include serious messianic delusions. The Collective West has turned a television comedian into some kind of heroic God which has fuelled the emergence of the psychopathic personality disorder and the delusions. Posted by: Jo Dominich | Feb 2 2023 23:30 utc | 95 karlof1, outraged, likklemore, richard hack and a few others – thanks for your posts.. Posted by: james | Feb 2 2023 23:40 utc | 96 karlof@86 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 2 2023 23:42 utc | 97 Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 2 2023 23:01 utc | 88 Posted by: Moses | Feb 2 2023 23:43 utc | 98 @ Karlof1 Post 86 Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 2 2023 23:44 utc | 99 About Jack@1: This is antisemitic bullshit. Almost all of the names are common German family names. Ok, a lot of them were actually old Nobility, but still German. I understand that you don’t understand German and have no feeling for the history of German names. Please stop bothering the barflies with your crap. Posted by: Tuk | Feb 2 2023 23:48 utc | 100 |
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