@Roadblock – to add to what you were told by: Jen | Feb 2 2023 3:29 utc | 197
Here’s a decent history of Crimea. https://orientalreview.org/2015/03/04/not-brief-history-crimea/
It’s full of clips from contemporary news outlets throughout.
Long story short: At least since the 50s, most Crimeans don’t want to be part of Ukraine and the Ukrainians have over and over again subverted their attempts at independence and autonomy. Hope this helps with your mental roadblock.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 2 2023 4:18 utc | 203

Does Russia wish to own the Ukraine at any cost? Does the USA? May either decide to give up?

Posted by: Stegiel | Feb 2 2023 4:31 utc | 205

Zeug USW @189
Historical confusion, which you employed and is a standard bearer for the Nazionalists at the heart of the Ukraine mess. Specifically, you use the term “Mongol hordes”. Completely ahistorical in describing the Great Russians as against the Galician fascists. The bulk of Great Russia is forested…not a good environment for horse cavalry, particularly in those areas where the forest lands were deep and extensive. Horrible conditions for light cavalry as ambushes could happen anywhere and unit cohesion and the tactics and strategy the Mongols followed were greatly hampered. The rulers of Muscovy, a semi-forested region made a deal with the Mongols and gave them regular tribute. Problem solved.
However…..through most of the Ukraine….Steppe conditions predominated. Thus was the bulk of what is now mostly Ukrainian manhood were killed off and the Mongols had full enjoyment of the widows, girlfriends and daughters…and sometimes grandmothers and even the occasional great-grandmother. Thus was the Ukrainian gene pool heavily altered. So the Ukie propaganda is an ironic lie…they are the ones with a considerable admixture of Mongol DNA.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 2 2023 4:45 utc | 207

Down South | Feb 2 2023 4:00 utc | 200
“US GLSDB
ATACMS F-16s
Abrams
tactical nukes
= even Voronezh is threatened”
Except.
Voronezh is Russia pre 2022.
I think, that’d be a “real” red line.
Our resident Zanons are here to inform you Russia has been struck at Belgorod.
But while they have stoically accepted shelling at the border fringes…. IMVHO a strike into Russia might be viewed as a different category.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 2 2023 4:49 utc | 209

@ karlof1 | Feb 2 2023 4:48 utc | 208
re: pushing the FEBA to make most of those regions out-of-range for usual artillery
. . .in the news
Bloomberg: Longer-Range Artillery Part of $2 Billion in US Aid for Ukraine

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 2 2023 5:07 utc | 211

Posted by: hankster | Feb 2 2023 4:54 utc | 210
Yep, it shows the DNC and the institutions they support are rightwing. Fascists, whether Nazi or otherwise are tools for the globalists.

Posted by: 88 | Feb 2 2023 5:14 utc | 213

Here is the fixed YouTube link to the Pet Shop Boys song William Gruff posted @22.
Fascinating. Thanks, or спасибо!
Pet Shop Boys – Go West
Posted by: lex talionis | Feb 1 2023 18:14 utc | 56

I watched the video and read some of the recent youtube comments and there is this (includes machine translated replies) –
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serbianforestman
2 days ago (edited)
let’s try to understand the point of this performance created back in 1993. During the Cold War, the British pop band whose frontman is today one of the biggest financiers of the Labor Party… prophetically shows the way to the west for Lenin’s child – Ukraine. Where Lenin himself came by armored train to start the first color revolution in Imperial Russia. The West back then, through this audio-visual propaganda material. He calls on Ukrainians toleavel their brothers, and in the name of a ”beautiful live”, transfer their country to the Western military bloc. As we can see, the plan came true 30 years later. But all that will be left of that poor beautiful life will be the permanently destroyed Ukraine. And long-term hatred between Slavic brothers was created in the blood. To the joy of the Germanic West. At 3:55, you can clearly see the map of Ukraine in the background, on which Crimea is the “statue of freedom” facing Moscow. I can only imagine what the West would like to set up in Crimea, which is aimed at Moscow…
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Khv & Dv Jungle
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Not well, this is nonsense 😁😁 as you don’t understand. Normal people (not Putin) in Russia have always been with Ukraine. Every other Russian family has relatives in Ukraine. I myself have some roots from there. Only government games (and not only within Russia) are trying to pit one people against another. For their own purposes. They benefit from war. Now you can see here. that this war is invisibly controlled by someone from the outside. Think back to 1941-45. Hitler had many investors, millionaires who invested. And then they had income from the war. “Ordinary Fascism” Movie
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Khv & Dv Jungle
Khv & Dv Jungle
1 day ago
But there is some truth in your words. but there is a caveat. I think Ukraine is by none of those who started the war. It is simply chosen as a point where it can be untied. Because there was a revolution there before. There were enough thieves there, as now in the Russian Federation. It was the thieves who took the money to the west… and they are being taken out, both in our country and in Ukraine. Just by waging war in Ukraine, it’s easier to brainwash people. but they need war for something, people disappear, money flows like a river somewhere, perhaps again to the west, through the pockets of local rulers and officials. Prices are rising here, for everything.. the people are impoverished
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serbianforestman
1 day ago (edited)
@Khv & Dv Jungle You will hardly ever succeed in convincing anyone with common sense that Stjepan Bandera and those who follow him today are fighting against fascism. Rather, it will be that the people of Bandera never disappeared from Ukraine.
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Khv & Dv Jungle
Khv & Dv Jungle
1 day ago
@serbianforestman I assure you, in our country a lot of people know what “Nazis” Putin is fighting in Ukraine. there is so much money spent on the processing of the population…. there is propaganda about that every hour. That in Ukraine their shaft. They raised everything, all films, feature films and documentaries, implant that this has always been the case. And the most important thing. We can’t say otherwise. Hang banners are frightened by fines and criminal terms. For life, for a different point of view, if we do not agree with the official version, and say that we have nothing to do in Ukraine. Because it is a fraternal country. We know where fascism is. It’s where people get their mouths shut on pain of prison.
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serbianforestman
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@Khv & Dv Jungle This is how the BBC reported from Ukraine 8 years ago. It’s a long period, and even these brainwashed guys have grown up… Now they are in the forefront of creating a clean Ukraine following the ideology of Stjepan Bandera.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SBo0akeDMY
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Khv & Dv Jungle
18 hours ago (edited)
@serbianforestman да.. yes, you can see it from the outside. I was afraid that it was so… to be against the war is understandable.. but to think that only Putin needs it…. well😭😭😭 ????!!!! mistake… In every country the government is brainwashing. We have our own propaganda for the treatment of the population. Everywhere yours. Every day and every hour on TV there are talk shows about this war. They act on the effect of the 25th frame, how the advertisement enters the brain. All known dissidents are being hounded and persecuted psychologically.. but we see how well Putin communicates with the West. And the West will suddenly be exposed as an enemy … we will be disoriented … For some reason, we have a law on the deployment of NATO troops. Look for Federal Law 99 of 2006-2007 adopted by Putin. How then can we consider that NATO is our enemy? you have to think about all this, not trusting the authorities anywhere
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By the way, I read somewhere. Probably in PSB Literally … Excerpts. I’m afraid to be wrong. But as I understood, perhaps Neil supported First Labour and Tony Blair, and then NO. after the results of Bush’s second war in Iraq, was already opposed, … so the views are changeable. And everyone needs to understand that wars are started, finding reasons. FINDING an excuse. Nothing to do with the true purpose
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@Khv & Dv Jungle And the reason is clear – Ukraine go west to NATO!

Posted by: HOBO 3 | Feb 2 2023 5:22 utc | 215

Palantir claimes to be havily involved with giving Ukraine army intelligence target selection:
>>Die US-Datenanalysefirma Palantir räumt erstmals eine umfassende Beteiligung an den
Kriegsanstrengungen der Ukraine ein. Nach den Worten von Firmenchef Alex Karp ist das US-Unternehmen
“für den größten Teil der Zielerfassung in der Ukraine verantwortlich”. Auf die Frage zum Einsatz
künstlicher Intelligenz (KI) erklärt Karp, dass bei Software, die eigenständig handeln kann, ethische
Aspekte berücksichtigt werden müssen.<< https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/news-zum-russland-ukraine-krieg-das-geschah-in-der-nacht-zu-donnerstag-2-februar-a-ec36c1c0-9700-4300-a8fb-17fee39e05d8

Posted by: C | Feb 2 2023 5:38 utc | 217

@214 Aristodemos
Thx.
Chill out and stop worrying though. You should listen to some Pet Shop Boys when you get a chance. Maybe their song, “West End Goys.”

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Feb 2 2023 6:03 utc | 219

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 2 2023 4:18 utc |
No sorry Jen and Tom but I specifically said eastern Ukraine like the Donbass region where much of the genocide was supposedly happening over the last 8 years. Is there any record of that genocide happening before 2014?? I think not
It seems that the genocide began shortly after Russia illegally annexed Crimea.
But hey just a troll here.

Posted by: Roadblock | Feb 2 2023 6:05 utc | 221

Posted by: Roadblock | Feb 2 2023 6:05 utc | 221
Furthermore, did you not read either links provided to you? While there wasn’t yet *state enacted* genocide happening on an organized scale previous to the Maidan coup of 2014 and the Crimean referendum to RE-join Russia, there was in fact a seething attitude being promoted by ultra-nationalist Ukrainians and their western sponsors with the precise aim of de-Russifying Ukraine and this entails in its nature a particular focus on regions of Ukraine with Russian ethnic/speaking/cultural populations that so happened to be the industrialized portions of the country.
But let’s get back to Crimea. Where is the Russian “invasion” or forced voting that led to the overwhelming decision to finally leave Ukraine (again, read the history I provided) that you are pretending was there?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 2 2023 6:12 utc | 223

karlof1 @ 16
Are you sure about ‘Paul’ de Gaulle? Charles de Gaulle had a son called Philippe.

Posted by: Barry | Feb 2 2023 6:56 utc | 225

Barry @ 225. Most Probably Pierre de Gaulle

Posted by: Cône orange | Feb 2 2023 7:22 utc | 227

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 2 2023 4:11 utc | 202
Indeed, you’ve fed zee nazi’s well, very well indeed. Even subbing for NSDAP-Calling with your own: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 2 2023 6:05 utc | 220
Discovered a claimed source, read 200 pages between posts, for the bars benefit, did you ? And …

But anyone who can write the following with a straight face and expect anyone to believe it is truly a disingenuous clown:

Reminds me, oh learned one, of your:

I’ve recently caught wind of a conspiracy theory wherein Russia and China have a secret plan (I’ve seen variations including each having their own or them having a shared one) to invade and depopulate the USA.

To actually give even a moments credence to the above, yet state you discovered the crap on the URL ’emptaskforce.us’ and therefore:

So he’s got an official position with the US government

WTF ? Please see your suitably applicable 220, first quoted above.
This is not Farcebook or Twatter. Um, what’s the phrase ? Oh yes, baffle ’em with bullshit, hey Tom.
Profoundly highly credible, reliable, ‘asserted’ demonstrations of knowledge & learned research on your part ? Informed, impartial, objective & neutral ? FA chance of that.

Posted by: Outraged | Feb 2 2023 7:33 utc | 229

Early in life I have noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper, but in Spain, for the first time, I saw newspaper reports which did not bear any relation to the facts, not even the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie. I saw great battles reported where there had been no fighting, and complete silence where hundreds of men had been killed. I saw troops who had fought bravely denounced as cowards and traitors, and others who had never seen a shot fired hailed as the heroes of imaginary victories; and I saw newspapers in London retailing these lies and eager intellectuals building emotional superstructures over events that had never happened. I saw, in fact, history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according to various ‘party lines’.
George Orwell, Looking back on the Spanish War, Chapter 4
part of a longer article from a few years back by B. worth revisiting and passing on
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/the-media-war-on-truthful-reporting-and-legitimate-opinions-a-documentary.html

Posted by: Exile | Feb 2 2023 7:55 utc | 231

“Today, Lavrov met with Paul de Gaulle”.
His name is Philippe. Nonetheless he’s a valuable element of anti-NATO counter-propaganda.
Alas he preaches in the desert as his voice is totally censored here in France.

Posted by: Nanker | Feb 2 2023 8:23 utc | 233

I think Philippe is still alive but he is now 101. Probably a tad old to run for President, although probably more alert than Biden.

Posted by: watcher | Feb 2 2023 8:35 utc | 235

Odessa military commissars have mastered a new method of work: a conscript was blinded by pepper spray so that he couldn’t resist the process of “mobilization.”
Here is another example of mass mobilization, a deadly wave of which is rolling all over Ukraine. While the authorities in Kiev call the brutal detentions on the streets a “Russian fake,” the security forces are beginning to use any kind of weapon against men of conscription age.
The footage shows how a man in Odessa was forcibly mobilized; he was not very happy about the prospect of going to the front, and representatives of the military registration and enlistment office are trying to use pepper spray on his eyes and face so that he could not resist the process. 
 
He says, “I’m not going with you; you’re already torturing me in front of people!” This scoundrel sprayed me in the face with a gas can (pepper spray). I did not attack this man.”

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/31722

Posted by: Down South | Feb 2 2023 8:37 utc | 237

NemesisCalling | Feb 2 2023 4:41 utc | 206
How many more times, by the time that Barbarossa was defeated around Smolensk the only lend-lease supplies in Russia were from Britain, which is why you can see Matilda and Valentine tanks in newsreels of the Battle of Moscow. By the time that lend-lease became a flood, the decisive battle had already been fought and increased the speed and magnitude of the victory. PQ 1 arrived on 11 October 1941.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Dervish_(1941)

Posted by: Squeeth | Feb 2 2023 9:19 utc | 239

Sorry…the search for that is viewzone

Posted by: Hutch | Feb 2 2023 9:54 utc | 241

This excerpt is relevant to this thread’s debate over “Nazism” and its relation to the Borderland war.
https://www.thepostil.com/operation-z-the-hidden-truth-about-the-war-in-ukraine/
“The term “Nazi” refers to National Socialism (Nazism), a doctrine that takes us back to the 1930s in Germany. Without going into detail, it combines nationalism and socialism into a “compact” ideology, postulating that the main obstacle to the application of both is the presence of Jews in German society. It is a coherent doctrinal system.
What is described as ‘neo-Nazism’ is not a compact, constructed doctrine. It is more of a social phenomenon than a political doctrine. It is a heterogeneous collection of ideologies that combine hatred of everything and everyone in a kind of theatrical representation of violence, associating Nazi symbolism. There are individuals who see in the hatred of the other a glorification of their conception of the nation.
It is paradoxical that essentially nationalist movements have such international collaboration. The answer lies in the approach itself…
The term “neo-Nazi” is therefore somewhat misleading. Despite appearances, “neo-Nazis” are not the descendants of “Nazis.” Rather, they are the second cousins of consanguineous marriages, who share the same brutality. The link of kinship appears clearly through the “Idea of Nation,” described in four principles by Andriy Biletsky, founder of the AZOV movement:
*The nation has an ethnic basis, defined by blood.
*The interest of the nation is superior to that of the individual.
*Society is structured around an ethnic hierarchy and power is held by members of the ethnic elite.
*The members of this nation constitute an elite group of full citizens, while the others are “second class citizens.”
In fact, the Idea of Nation is a common theme in many extreme right-wing movements. It is symbolized by an ‘N’ crossed by a capital “I,” which is nothing but the inverted representation of the Wolfsangel rune found in Nazi symbolism.”
My own view is that the more secular-materialistic, ideologically inchoate, nihilistic and de jure criminal the nationalist formations become (as in how the Ukrainian neo-nazis long have been drug, weapons and sex traffickers), the more they deviate from any true national mission and become mercenaries ready to serve the highest bidder. That’s what we see with the Ukronazi subordination to imperial globalization and Zionism.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Feb 2 2023 10:21 utc | 243

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 1 2023 16:51 utc | 17.
Vicki The Hut. I love it.
Posted by: Babel-17 | Feb 1 2023 17:25 utc | 34
She also admitted the bio labs.
Testimony to Marco Rubio who was cringing, winking making faces, hoping she would stop putting food/foot in mouth.

Posted by: CitizenKayne | Feb 2 2023 10:34 utc | 245

@Melaleuca 114
The attempt to declare Wagner a “terrorist group” suggests that it is highly likely you are correct.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 2 2023 10:42 utc | 247

The European Parliament called on EU countries to adopt the 10th package of sanctions against Russia (…) proposes to ban companies still remaining in Europe, including Lukoil and Rosatom and also to refuse not only to import oil and gas, but also uranium from Russia.
European Parliament called for consideration of the supply of Western combat aircraft and long-range missiles to Ukraine.

Posted by: rk | Feb 2 2023 11:11 utc | 249

Posted by: tonads | Feb 1 2023 16:45 utc | 14
ALL monarchs deserve to be toppled.
Nobody in this world is better than their compatriots for having been born through some particular cunt.
Given that the tsaristic plague was drowned in blood by the same people they often refused to give citizenship to, there literally was no wrong done and nothing of value lost.

Posted by: Arganthonios | Feb 2 2023 11:26 utc | 251

eply to: William Gruff | Feb 1 2023 17:00 utc
YES! It’s the top (for ’90s) quality CIA propaganda work.
Some first hand clues:
… The band and the singer all in BLUE & YELLOW (colours of UKRAINE
flag) outfit. The singer holds blue & yellow ARROW! Blue(d) and
yellow(ed) they march through Moscow’s Red Square, pointing to
the WEST … … and much, MUCH more.
CIA subconsciousness programing in a VIDEO-spot from 1993!
Just watch carefuly and you’ll find many other UKRAINE propaganda clues.
Direct link:
Pet Shop Boys, “Go West”, live, 1993.
(GOOGLE: “Pet Shop Boys” “Go West” “1993” “live”)

Posted by: LongCovid | Feb 2 2023 12:18 utc | 253

Russell “Texas” Bentley – who has fought for Donetsk and is now still there – says on Telegram, here:
https://t.me/TXDPR/4798

Dudes like McGregor (and Ritter) make their livings these days saying what their sychophants among the alt-media want to hear. More discerning news producers and consumers should get their news from sources a little closer to the action – for example, from VOSTOK Commander Alexander Khodakovsky, who made this report from the Artemovsk Front today –
“I must say that our offensive actions do not drive the enemy into panic – this must be taken into account. We can assume that he is now twitching, canceling all plans and transferring forces to where we create tension, but he reserves just enough to contain us in areas that are sensitive to him, while he himself continues to build his own offensive plans. Last night, to the left of the front of our attack on Ugledar, he tried to break into our lines. We drove him away, but the very fact that he is trying to be insolent is remarkable. But this is on a local piece, and we are talking more about a larger plan.” NOTE – The enemy (US/NATO/Ukrop nazis) “continue to build his offensive plans.” A far cry from “crumbling”.
Dudes like McGregor and Ritter have never been to Donbass, Ukraine or Russia, they get their info from others who are also (mostly) far from the Front themselves. They are hardly qualified to be called “military analysts” of the current conflict, regardless of whatever former job they may have held. They are not analysts, they are cheerleaders at best.
I prefer to get my information from local sources who are actually fighting the war on the Front today. It tends to be much more accurate. Those fans who live thousands of miles from the war have the luxury of listening to and believing what they want to hear. Those of us living under actual shelling on the frontlines, whose lives literally depend on the outcome of the war, are only interested in facts and analysis directly from those who are doing the actual work. Will we win? Probably, and I think and hope so, but every indication is that the war will be long and hard, and it will get worse before it gets better. Is the NATO/Ukraine fighting force “crumbling”? Only a fool or a liar would say that.

This is a point I have repeatedly made on the sites of the usual blowhard armchair generals and invariably been subject to unhinged abuse and/or blocking for it.
For instance at the time of the sudden retreat from Kharkov, the worst of these gasbags (Andrei Martyanov, who acts as though he was a member of the Russian general staff while his actual military experience was as a low level Soviet Coast Guard officer….in 1990) claimed that it was a planned withdrawal and would imminently be followed by a colossal Russian pincer attack. I pointed out that
1. Russia was rushing troops from Moscow in the middle of the night, therefore
2. It was an emergency, therefore
3. Those troops were needed to hold the line, therefore
4. It was not a planned withdrawal, therefore
5. There would be no counterattack.
Martyanov’s response? Called me a paid troll and blocked me.
Meanwhile, it’s getting on for 6 months and the promised imminent pincer counterattack still hasn’t taken place.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 2 2023 12:40 utc | 255

In my previous post, I meant “commemoration”. Sorry.

Posted by: B. Wildered | Feb 2 2023 12:44 utc | 257

@B Wildered 257
This site needs an edit button. There is no reason not to have one.
@Dalit 254
Thanks for the link. I long since downloaded the movie but someone on the Awful Avalanche blog’s replies who was only partway through watching it wanted to know where it could still be found.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 2 2023 12:49 utc | 259

There are reports UAF is still sending more troops to Bakhmut. On the other hand there was a report they were “slowly” withdrawing from Bakhmut. They must be using the last “open”, in reality hazardous road trying to insert more troops inside. There were also reports that the reinforcement columns trying to go to Bakhmut were hit with artillery.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 2 2023 12:56 utc | 261

Posted by: John Schmeeckle | Feb 2 2023 13:00 utc | 262
Well, that is the point, the place has been run by a collection of ganglords (“Oligarchs”) since the Soviets left, and it shows. The “government” is a foreign imposed and directed grifting organization which does not govern at all, but steals and lies. Of course none of them want this “great oportunity” to end. Once you stop listening to the state propaganda organs it is obvious what is going on and why.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 2 2023 13:14 utc | 263

Posted by: Roadblock | Feb 2 2023 0:45 utc | 170
…

Because if the genocide began AFTER Russia invaded Crimea then I think any fair minded person would know who actually started this war.

I encounter this “logic” when talking to people suffering from addiction, every day. Well, assuming Russia’s acceptance of Crimea’s application to join the RF is a casus belli, then a fair minded drugged addict “would know”…: “genocide began AFTER”, et voila: Russia is responsible for the genocide of Russians in Donbas. An f’ing new level of layered trolling absurdity that only grossly malformed minds are capable of.
It was a painful jab, so please forgive the reaction, barflies.

Posted by: SlowDL | Feb 2 2023 13:23 utc | 265

@NemesisCalling 29
Or perhaps you’d prefer a British source for “Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem”:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY
“As Ukraine’s struggle against Russia and its proxies continues, Kiev must also contend with a growing problem behind the front lines: far-right vigilantes who are willing to use intimidation and even violence to advance their agendas, and who often do so with the tacit approval of law enforcement agencies.”

Posted by: John Schmeeckle | Feb 2 2023 13:33 utc | 267

And what experience does Russell “Texas” Bentley have in operational art? Has he commanded a brigade, a division, an army?
Right, thought so.
The only blowhards here are people who think they know more than people with actual military training and continue to loudly spew their lack of knowledge all over the bar like puke.
You know who they are.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 2 2023 13:41 utc | 269

PMC Wagner ｜ Best in Hell ｜ 2022 (English subtitles)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/eKUPd7Eetlyg/
Be smart – download it before it disappears. I notice it’s hard to even get Google search results for this thing now.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 2 2023 13:46 utc | 271

Regatding Zelensky’s recent purge and Ukraine’s elite eating its own, the homes of Kolomoysky and Avakov were recently searched. What’s up with that?
Avakov was a neo-Nazi kingpin and potential rival of Poroshenko; Avakov was eleavted to Interior Minister (controlling the police and National Guard) in the new post-Maidan regime. Zelensky kept him on. See
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/23/ukra-j23.html
Kolomoysky was the “missing link” connecting Biden, Zelensky and the neo-Nazis. See https://greatgameindia.com/hunter-biden-zelensky-neo-nazi/
Kolomoysky was also the owner of Ukraine’s largest bank, where the money from that “tar baby” IMF loan was deposited, until Kolomoysky stole it. The IMF forced Zelensky to spank Kolomoysky (who had been Zelensky’s primary benefactor) in 2020 when the IMF loan was updated.
In 2020 Zelensky publicly pledged to keep all of Ukraine’s promises to the IMF. This of course included the original demand that Ukraine reassimilate the Donbass, because tax income from Donbass heavy industry would be needed to service the IMF debt.
That is to say, both the IMF and the neo-Nazis were opposed to the campaign pledge of tragic coward Zelensky, who ran for President with a promise to make peace in the Donbass. (Of course, the IMF has always been dominated by the United States.) See https://scheerpost.com/2022/04/18/siding-with-ukraines-far-right-us-sabotaged-zelenskys-peace-mandate/
See also https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/04/how-zelensky-made-peace-with-neo-nazis/

Posted by: John Schmeeckle | Feb 2 2023 13:59 utc | 273

Aristodemos @ 214 wrote:
“Zelensky and many of those around him are either Khazarian Talmudists…or Nazi Galicians. Could a Hollywood screenwriter come up with such a scenario and not be laughed out of town?”
Only…Mel Brooks! It’s Springtime for Zelensky, and Ukraine!

Posted by: The Osprey | Feb 2 2023 14:11 utc | 275

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Feb 2 2023 13:41 utc | 269
The hack with its continued disrespect towards anybody who has practical knowledge about any matter

Posted by: Arganthonios | Feb 2 2023 14:38 utc | 277

“Those who are dragging Germany into a new war with Russia and expect to win – apparently do not understand that the conflict will go very differently” – Putin in Volgograd

Posted by: Apollyon | Feb 2 2023 14:47 utc | 279

NYT: “Mozart” lost the entire budget for alcohol and Kiev strippers.
Well many deserted and money was embezzled, to be fair.

Posted by: Sektion2B | Feb 2 2023 14:54 utc | 281

“United States is working to meet Ukraine’s needs, including long-range missiles” – Vicky

Posted by: rk | Feb 2 2023 14:57 utc | 283

NemesisCalling@206
Like any other student of Goebbels you arrange the content of your facts to suit the conclusions reached by your mentor/fuhrer.
Lend Lease was a programme designed to permit the manufacture, sale and export of weapons of war and munitions specifically banned by successive Neutrality acts passed by Congress in the 1920s.
The US public had reached the conclusion that it had become involved in the Great War because it had invested so much in the Entente cause that a German victory would ruin it. Wilson was involved in a massive campaign of Debt Collection, which, felicitously also turned into an anti-socialist crusade.
It was this web of debt, between the allies and the US, that led to the idiocy of Versailles and the attempt to squeeze money out of the German people. Consequences which certainly helped the Nazis win support.
What makes the mythology of Lend-Lease so important to anti-communists like Nemesiscalling is that without it as an ideological deus ex machina to explain the Red Army’s victories, which were on a scale only equaled by the Wehrmacht’s defeats, the anti-communists are left speechless in the face of the fact that the Army was the instrument of Soviet planning and economic collectivisation. Unless we can explain the victory at Kursk on the unnoticed presence there of Sherman tanks, we are bound to confess that Soviet industry was capable of feats beyond the capacity of the capitalist economies.
But none of this will interest you. Your concern is not with what happened and why- matters of great concern to people who view the dreadful tragedies of the World War as containing important lessons which must be studied and understood, for the sake of life itself. Your concern is with cobbling together a rats nest of scraps of data to justify your hatred of Jews and your fanatical abhorrence of the equality and community that is the foundation of socialist politics.
You enquire, in the street corner rhetoric of a Nazi “why the west went after Germany first?” There is no mystery here. The UK and France had miscalculated-as had the Poles- that Germany would never be able to reach a non aggression pact with the Soviet Union, would never attempt to, so it would not attack Poland, once the western allies pledged their support for the Poles.
Germany knew better. It knew that Britain had no army at its disposal to defend France and it knew that France- the homeland of fascism and anti-semitic ideology- was riddled with traitors and divided into opposing political camps. It dreaded the day when both Britain and France would come to their political senses and elect socialist governments ready to co-operate with the USSR. It sided, in advance of such a revolution, with the property owning classes, the capitalists and imperialists. It trusted that its goodwill would not be misunderstood. It expected the fascistic politicians of the ‘west’ to collapse. And they did.
It was easier for the British than the French. They had the sea and the Navy to protect them from the Wehrmacht. They also had the immense resources of the Empire which, if they could retain them, made them both in terms of resources and population capable of defeating the Axis.
Provided that it did not, by invading the USSR, take command of its resources while strategically threatening the Asian heartland-from India to Malaya- of the Empire. Which included the, almost Russian scale, resources of Canada, as well as Australasia and South Africa.
And then, there was the United States, still stuttering out of a second Depression into which Congress and the Supreme Court had propelled it after 1936, with a vast idle manufacturing sector chomping at the bit as it awaited demand. And a way round the neutrality acts- the most obvious of which lay across the northern border in Canada, where the economy was humming with orders from London.
No Jews apart from those living in the Empire and following their political avocations- ranging from Jewish factory workers in Glasgow to financiers in High Wycombe- as were the Anglicans, Presbyterians and the 57 other sects, including those who went to the mosque in Woking. No Jews were involved.
The British ruling class was just as anti-semitic as the German. The idea that it followed the orders or even the plaintive pleas of the Jewish Deputies is laughable. Anti-semitism, you will be pleased to learn, prevailed in every class in the kingdoms. In York, the outbreak of war was greeted by a small demonstration of unemployed men, calling for peace and blaming the Jews for war. No doubt there were many who sympathised with them. There was a powerful fascist movement in the country and its propaganda had been mirrored for years before the war in the dominant conservative media.
Most of history is easy enough to understand, the important facts tend to be evident. Few secrets last very long. If there had been any conspiracies driving the British to war we would have learned about them. And there were: the Cliveden set, for example. All over the place, members of the wealthy elites, even the Royal Family was involved. But they had no real effect. Just as the desire, on the part of many Jews, particularly on the left-not Zionists, to fight the Nazis in Spain and then whenever opportunity permitted, had no effect in the War Office, even in the period when there was a Jewish Minister of War. If anything the contrary was the case.
Hitler had to move fast. War was a gamble. Like the current war in Ukraine the Germans calculated that the Soviet Union would crumble and surrender. But as is the case today, even if they had done so- and there were always collaborators to be had- instead of welcoming their help, they were sneered at as cowardly untermenschen.

Posted by: bevin | Feb 2 2023 15:05 utc | 285

Probably more relevant to yesterday’s thread, but here are some thoughts.
I guess not original, but seems clear to me that the promise of 31 Abrahms (yet to be manufactured and then to “export” standards) was only done to allow Germany to release Leopard IIs – either its own or via the relaxation of export licenses.
In itself as many have commentated this will not be a game changer but with new AFVs and artillery could allow a local counter attack type “victory” by 2 or 3 brigades. This will allow the narrative that the Ukraine is somehow winning to continue a while longer. It might also be that the creation of a decently equipped mobile reserve could blunt more radical Russian offensive ambitions, either in reality or by deterrence.
It seems to me the case that the Ukraine has in the past and is now building up a two tier army. One part and the majority is relatively badly trained and equipped, with limited mobility -fit just to hold the line. The second is probably well equipped and formed of trained veterans and comprises the mobile reserve. Parallels with the Wehrmacht in WW2. But maybe only a handful of brigades – by guess is 6 to 8 now are out of the line refitting. Russia will need to bring these forces to battle and demolish them. Causing damage to the PBI is bad, but not fatal to the Ukrainian force structure.
If these tanks and other AVFs etc are delivered then the major cause of loss will be mechanical breakdown. It is unlikely that any unit equipped with Leopards, Bradleys etc will have more than half operational after a few days of combat. If the UAF are advancing this is not so bad as they can relatively easily recover and repair the breakdowns. If however they are retreating it is a whole new scenario.
Berlectic notes that tank on tank combat is unlikely to be pursued by the RF and I agree with him. Most combat losses will come from AT missiles delivered by air and ground forces, not tank shells. And these vehicles and their logistical support will be targeted by RF long range missiles, drones and perhaps air power.
I think any sane military professional would know this. So why the supply of these weapons? Maybe indeed the western intelligence agencies sincerely believe that the Russian army needs just one more push to collapse? Or likewise the Russian economy or political leadership?
Or it could be yet another ruse to separate Germany from Russia? Panzers on the steppe again? What could possibly go wrong? And terrible optics and a huge propaganda gift to Russia.
It may be the last gasp aid so that when the UAF itself collapses the west can say that “look, we sent everything we had and still it was not enough”?
Or it could be yet another small steppe to escalate this to WW3 with the anticipation of more direct NATO involvement? And I am sure there are some that genuinely think this is a good plan. Though how NATO is expected to fight a conventional war with empty arsenals is beyond me.
But as it stands the latest batch of equipment is likely to last 4 to 6 weeks in operations so would only add a short prolongation to an already long conflict.

Posted by: marcjf | Feb 2 2023 15:22 utc | 287

Tom_Q_Collins @158–
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 2 2023 0:02 utc | 162

Use percent encoding for the 2nd link in an Archive reference.
Instead of:

https: //web.archive.org/web/20170211022339/ https: //photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/kiev-ivm-fact-sheet-eng.pdf

use:

https: //web.archive.org/web/20170211022339/https%3A%2F%2Fphotos.state.gov%2Flibraries%2Fukraine%2F895%2Fpdf%2Fkiev-ivm-fact-sheet-eng.pdf

e.g.
Link to archive.org

Posted by: Browser | Feb 2 2023 15:25 utc | 289

Posted by: Browser | Feb 2 2023 15:25 utc | 288
Percent encoding

Posted by: Browser | Feb 2 2023 15:30 utc | 291

Russia didn’t “illegally annex” Crimea….
Crimea has never wanted to be part of Ukraine. Period.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 2 2023 6:17 utc | 224

Not to nit-pick, but the referendum and annexation was illegal under the Ukrainian Constitution, which was obviously written to thwart such events and outcomes.
If you accept the UN Charter on the Rights of Self-determination, there was nothing wrong with the outcome.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 2 2023 15:37 utc | 293

Bewildered@256
In your sidearmed assault on my posting, you show clear evidence of cognitive dissonance. If a message comes within your radar happens to challenge your preconceptions and predilections, you squeak like a trapped mouse.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 2 2023 15:38 utc | 295

grunzt@276
Very perceptive observations. Yes, certain elements within the U$$A are devout acolytes of Edward Bernays, the father of perception management via subtle forms of propaganda as well as blatant lies. Ironically, Josef Goebbels took most of his techniques directly from that nephew of Sigmund Freud.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 2 2023 15:51 utc | 297

rk@286
Yes, Viccious Nudelman, aka Cookie Monster is doing all she can to depopulate Ukraine on behalf of the agenda for the Tribal dream of NovoKhazaria.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 2 2023 15:54 utc | 299