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February 15, 2023
The Buildup To War In Ukraine – Tuesday, February 15, 2022

After the 2014 coup in Kiev the dully elected President Yanukovich had fled the country. His supporters in parliament were afraid and would no show up for further assemblies. The incoming U.S. selected government immediately set out to suppress the Russian speaking parts of Ukraine. The first move of the rump parliament, now dominated by right-wing people from west Ukraine, was to prohibit the Russian language for official business.

The ethnic Russian population in the east and southeast was opposed to the coup and rebelled against it. The new government tried to oppress it by military means. But a lot of soldiers defected to the rebels and soon those won the upper hand. The Ukrainian government troops were decisively defeated, twice. Each time the French, German, Russian and Ukrainian governments set down to come to agreements on how to proceed:

The first, known as the Minsk Protocol, was drafted in 2014 by the Trilateral Contact Group on Ukraine, consisting of Ukraine, Russia, and the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), with mediation by the leaders of France and Germany in the so-called Normandy Format. After extensive talks in Minsk, Belarus, the agreement was signed on 5 September 2014 by representatives of the Trilateral Contact Group and, without recognition of their status, by the then-leaders of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and Luhansk People's Republic (LPR). This agreement followed multiple previous attempts to stop the fighting in the region and aimed to implement an immediate ceasefire.

The agreement failed to stop fighting, and was thus followed with a revised and updated agreement, Minsk II, which was signed on 12 February 2015. This agreement consisted of a package of measures, including a ceasefire, withdrawal of heavy weapons from the front line, release of prisoners of war, constitutional reform in Ukraine granting self-government to certain areas of Donbas and restoring control of the state border to the Ukrainian government. While fighting subsided following the agreement's signing, it never ended completely, and the agreement's provisions were never fully implemented.

The Minsk II agreement, a "Package of measures for the Implementation of the Minsk agreements", was endorsed by the UN Security Council Resolution 2205. It is available here. The package includes clearly numbered tasks. An immediate ceasefire is task 1. The 'Launch of a dialogue' about legislation measures the Ukrainian parliament would have to take to recognize a special status for Donbas is step 4.  Step 9 is the reinstatement of full control of the state border by the government.

These clearly defined steps later proved to be the reason why the agreement was never fully implemented. The government of Ukraine insisted that step 9 should be taken before step 4. The governments of the Donetsk and Luhansk republics insisted on the original sequencing as giving up any control over the boarder with Russia, and the supplies coming through it, would have taken away their ability to defend themselves before the other steps, specifically the recognition of the special status of the Donbas republics, had been taken.

Over the years several summits were held to push for a fulfillment of the Minsk agreements. But the government of Ukraine, with 'western' support, continued to block the process.

On Tuesday, February 15 2022, following talks with the German chancellor Olaf Scholz, President Vladimir Putin ordered some troops who had been stationed near the border with Ukraine to move back to their barracks.

France 24 listed other headlines of the day:

  • Blinken speaks to FRANCE 24: The Ukrainian crisis has 'reinforced transatlantic solidarity'
  • NATO chief says 'cautious optimism' over Ukraine crisis
  • Ukraine crisis: Blinken says risk of Russian invasion high
  • Should I stay or should I go? Ukrainians remain resolute despite a war of nerves
  • Scholz welcomes Russian withdrawal of some troops from near Ukraine
  • Putin, Scholz begin talks in Moscow over Ukraine security
  • Russia says some troops return to base, Ukraine reacts cautiously
  • Markets calmer after Zelensky's invasion joke spooks investors

France 24, and many other 'western' media, missed something important that was happening in Russia:

Russia's parliament will vote on Tuesday to decide whether to ask President Vladimir Putin to recognise two Russian-backed breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine as independent, the speaker of the Duma lower house said.

The idea of asking Putin to recognise the breakaway territories was first floated by lawmakers on Jan. 19 but has taken weeks to get onto parliament's agenda, with the Kremlin declining to comment on whether it likes the idea.

In late January 2022 the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) had analyzed the idea:

On January 19, 11 members of the State Duma, Russia’s lower house of parliament, registered a draft law to recognize the independence of two separatist statelets in eastern Ukraine that have been warring with Kyiv since 2014 with substantial but undeclared support from Moscow. The document, which was put forward by members of the Communist Party, comes amid rising tensions along Ukraine’s border and in occupied Crimea, as Russia continues its buildup of military forces while demanding that the collective West agree to proposals to reshape the European security order to its liking.

This is not the first time that Russian parliamentarians have sought to provide official recognition to the so-called Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics (abbreviated as the DPR and LPR, respectively). In 2014, deputies from the party launched an abortive campaign to collect signatures in support of recognizing the territories’ independence, which would have been delivered to President Putin for consideration. Meanwhile, the Just Russia party called for recognizing the statelets’ independence that same year and has included it in subsequent party platforms.

This was not the idea of the major government supporting United Russia party, but of the parliamentarian opposition. Putin had rejected the 2014 attempt towards independence as he did want to keep the Donbas republics within Ukraine.

CSIS writes that an eventual recognition of the independence of Donbas was seen by its supporters as a step that might help to avoid a war:

The approach suggested by the Communists offers certain advantages to Russia. First, with negotiations on Russia’s security demands stalled, extending official recognition to the LPR and DPR could give Putin a relatively simple way to shift the status quo in Russia’s favor without (necessarily) involving the 127,000-strong Russian forces currently encircling Ukraine.

The chairman of the State Duma’s committee dealing with relations in neighboring states has already indicated that recognizing the statelets’ independence could be part of Russia’s “plan B” in case talks fail. If Russia would want to allow more time for negotiations to play out, while also escalating pressure to compel the West to accept at least some of its core positions, then recognition of the statelets could be considered in the Kremlin as an appropriate next step. Should Ukraine and the West make substantial concessions at that stage, then Putin would be able to proclaim a victory in the current standoff and draw down his forces rather than risk a spiraling escalation with unpredictable outcomes.

During its February 15 session the Duma adopted the resolution:

Russia's lower house of parliament voted on Tuesday to ask President Vladimir Putin to recognise two Russian-backed breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine as independent and the European Union told Moscow not to follow through.

The move by the State Duma, if approved, could further inflame a wider standoff over a Russian military build-up near Ukraine that has fuelled Western fears that Moscow could attack. Russia denies any invasion plans and has accused the West of hysteria.

Recognition of the self-declared Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics could kill the Minsk peace process in eastern Ukraine, where a conflict in the region known as Donbass between government forces and Moscow-backed separatists has cost 15,000 lives.

"Kyiv is not observing the Minsk agreements. Our citizens and compatriots who live in Donbass need our help and support," Vyacheslav Volodin, the State Duma speaker, wrote on social media.

At a news conference in Moscow, Putin declined to be drawn out on how he plans to respond. He said Russians were sympathetic to the residents of the Donbass region, but he wanted the regions' problems to be resolved through the Minsk accords.

Four-way peace talks between Ukraine, Russia, France and Germany were held last week but ended without a breakthrough.

After the talks, Ukraine said it would not yield to pressure from Moscow to negotiate directly with the separatists, while Russia accused Kyiv of putting forward absurd proposals.

The OSCE Special Observer Mission at the ceasefire line in southeast-Ukraine reported of February 15 that the number of ceasefire violations continued to be below average. The number of explosions, i.e. artillery impacts, was higher than average but mostly limited to one area where they hit on both sides of the ceasefire line:

In Donetsk region, the SMM recorded 24 ceasefire violations, including five explosions. In the previous reporting period, it recorded 17 ceasefire violations in the region.

In Luhansk region, the Mission recorded 129 ceasefire violations, including 71 explosions.

The majority of ceasefire violations occurred in areas close to the disengagement area near Zolote (government-controlled, 60km west of Luhansk) (see below). In the previous reporting period, the Mission recorded 157 ceasefire violations in the region, some of which also occurred near the disengagement area near Zolote.

During the reporting period, the SMM camera in Zolote recorded four projectiles in flight, while Mission patrols heard 61 undetermined explosions and 37 bursts of heavy-machine-gun fire, assessed as outside the disengagement area near Zolote but within 5km of its periphery.


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Not the Onion:
“West is running out of artillery” and “Russia has lost” now appearing in the same article:
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/14/u-s-training-ukrainian-troops-use-less-ammo-00082765
Another article about ‘teaching Ukraine to fight using less ammunition’
Good luck with that… sounds about as plausible as trying to win the Indy 500 by using less fuel.

Posted by: Et Tu | Feb 16 2023 11:16 utc | 201

Posted by: Et Tu | Feb 16 2023 11:16 utc | 201
The ammunition shortage is fixing itself with all those destroyed or disabled howitzers, amounting to over 4000 now. So the consumption will naturally decline.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 16 2023 11:21 utc | 202

The reason for the war (or SMO if you insist), however, is not to “liberate” the “oppressed” Russian minorities; Putin has made it clear that Ukraine has no right to exist as a separate and sovereign state. This is a war of conquest and no amount of lipstick can cover that up.

Posted by: Noam A. Larkey | Feb 16 2023 11:23 utc | 203

Posted by: anon2020 | Feb 16 2023 11:01 utc | 198
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/defense-intelligence-agency-russia-iranian-drones-report/
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/balloons-shot-down-over-kyiv-point-to-new-russian-tactics
From an initial trawl, plenty of Ukrainian articles but so laden with propaganda they should only be used as tertiary sources.

Posted by: Milites | Feb 16 2023 11:33 utc | 204

@ Bruce | Feb 16 2023 3:32 utc | 165
She tells it as it is, isn’t she ?…
Bottomless ocean of grief is about to produce a devastating sunamy, heading towards last standing pillars of morale… Time to reflect is upon events of last year for all Ukrainians, and is going to rip the nation apart… History cycle is going to complete itself. Modern warfare compresses staggering casualty rates inside shorter timeframe, while human mind slowly wakes up from inertia of peaceful pattern of existence… It would be unbearable – the amount of grief, that is coming

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Feb 16 2023 11:48 utc | 205

The Drive is a fanatical website, ultra propagandistic idiots. I think they wrote an article a few years ago that there’s no plane outside US better than f16, the world can’t make anything close.

Posted by: rk | Feb 16 2023 11:50 utc | 206

Lubica | Feb 16 2023 10:31 utc | 195
“RE Ukrainian language or a Russian dialect. I suggest it is a passé consideration, since we have now Ukraine ne it’s official language is Ukrainian.”
The fact that various modern empires saw fit to astroturf a “Ukrainian nation” and “language”, and eventually a Soviet Republic and then technically independent state, doesn’t mean such things really exist.
At any rate the question of “What is Ukrainian?” is highly contested here, not at all passe, and I doubt many would agree that just because the US empire says “we have now Ukraine ne it’s official language is Ukrainian” makes it so.
Noam A. Larkey | Feb 16 2023 11:23 utc | 203
“Putin has made it clear that Ukraine has no right to exist as a separate and sovereign state.”
1. The Ukraine itself voluntarily and completely surrendered whatever sovereignty it ever had to the empire, thereby declaring for itself that it has no right to exist as a separate and sovereign state.
2. Putin said that the aggressive actions of this remote-controlled proxy may render it impossible for Russia to restore any sovereignty to it, in spite of Russia’s best intentions.
And indeed, the imperial master of the Borderlands, with the full complicity of the hohols, has rendered it impossible for Russia to attain its war goals and national security imperatives without completely liquidating “the Ukraine” as any kind of fake-“sovereign state”.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Feb 16 2023 11:53 utc | 207

Part 1 of 2.
The Man and Child killer Collective Wastes Nazgûl screeching now that this mincer of theirs will be disabled too soon before they depopulate Ukrainians fast enough for their Saurons desire to be delivered. A land grab of the crossroads of Eurasia , Middle East and Africa.
That’s the guaranteed outcome of taking on Russia on its doorstep.
That’s the reason to build massive trenches and tunnels IN Ukraine – knowing that the bear will be goaded into invading and the ‘defences’ will hold long enough to mince every last young native Ukrainian- so they will not be able to object to their rump state being owned by Other People.
That’s why 16 year old boys and young women brought up with dumb ideology since their birth are like Hitler Youth being fed into the Mincer.
Stop using up your shells so quickly! orders the Fat Tonto Wallace ; Send all the stocks and make more shells scream Stoltenberg and Borrell- unelected like Ursula; We Have Won and Russia Has Lost – lies Milly ,Austin and the murderous nasty creeps in the WhiteHouse – the Nazgûl’s.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 16 2023 12:13 utc | 208

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/balloons-shot-down-over-kyiv-point-to-new-russian-tactics
If cannot extract the sweetcorn from the shit you are going to limit your historical understanding considerably. The provenance of a source is critical in assessing it’s validity, but not a reason for outright rejection, an attitude that is suggestive of evidentiary bias for partisan purposes.

Posted by: Milites | Feb 16 2023 12:20 utc | 209

“EU Parliament has adopted an anti-Russian resolution on the conflict in Ukraine, calling for the supply of fighter jets, helicopters and missiles to Kiev. Amendments with warnings about the danger of a nuclear conflict and calls for negotiations, which were introduced by the left, were rejected.”

Posted by: rk | Feb 16 2023 12:32 utc | 210

Watched a few Stoltenberg speeches recently. You can see he looks and sounds very agitated, if not desperate. Not someone acting well under pressure. Someone or something has him under pressure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVeUicD95s0

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 16 2023 12:32 utc | 211

Re@ rk | Feb 16 2023 12:32 utc | 210
What has happened to the brain power of Europe? When it is most needed it has gone missing. What a bunch of fools.

Posted by: ZimZum | Feb 16 2023 12:46 utc | 212

February 19, 2023, the D.C. Rally – ‘Rage Against The War Machine’
Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 15 2023 16:29 utc | 22
There are a number of reasons why there is no anti-war resistance or movement in the US:
1. The Democrat Party has become a war party. They’re responsible for Syria, Libya, Yemen, and Ukraine. Obama, Hillary, and Biden are typical Democrat warmongers. The rank and file follows its leaders, and so anti-war sentiment among them has disappeared.
2. Democrats have been brainwashed by the left media through the Russia Hoax to believe that Russia stole the 2016 election from Hillary. As a result, they have no problem with waging war against evil Vlad the election thief and his army of bots (even though a recent revelation shows that there were only 3 identifiable Russians on Facebook during the 2016 campaign, one being RT).
3. The Russian government and Russian society is viewed as undemocratic because they are not liberal and do not support the liberal agenda of LGBTIQ, trans and all the other lefty craziness. Honestly, I think rank and file democrats would wage war against Russia and take us to the brink of nuclear war on this basis alone. They’re nuts.
4. The core anti-war sentiment is found on the right, among rank and file people who have seen that our wars accomplished almost nothing at a tremendous cost financially, and physically to our soldiers. However, these people have no organization (their Republican Congressmen are strongly pro-war pro-MIC). And since Covid and Jan. 6th, these people understand that if they buck the establishment and voice their objections, they will likely be cancelled, lose their jobs, and maybe end up behind bars, So they stay quiet.
5, The MIC is fully in control of our government – they run everything, including wars for profit. Our government is corrupt. All politicians are on the take from the MIC. There’s no chance of an anti-war sentiment developing among the political class when so much money can be made off waging war. And the lack of any need for fiscal restraint and the availability of unlimited funds play right into this corrupt scenario.

Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Feb 16 2023 12:47 utc | 213

Not content with issues subpoenas to drug addicts and the over 60 and mobilising boys as young as 16, women now are being mobilised
https://twitter.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1626137443912097793

Posted by: Down South | Feb 16 2023 12:52 utc | 214

I’m not a doctor but I’ve seen old sick people. Shtolty looks like he’s taking brain medication. He has a dumb look, moves his whole body in exaggerated gestures, not much the head and eyes are mostly fixed and focused at infinity, in empty space. Something like Alzheimer or drugs for too many years. Vicky looks like she drinks a bottle each night.

Posted by: rk | Feb 16 2023 12:56 utc | 215

Part 2 of 2
Who are the Other People?
The same old aristo classes who are the masks of the forever Red Ball under various ‘nationalities’ – English, Poles, Hungarian, Romanian, Spanish etc … and the return of the original Nazis – the Ashkenazi Zionists from their adventure in the Palestine! Where their latest Apartheid Fascist Regime is about to meet the same fate as these other places they have tried to keep hold of through proxies. – South Africa, South East Asia, South and Central America’s and the biggest losses so far the Sub Continent , Indochina and the Giant Panda itself!
As the Western and Central and Eastern Africa dominions raise their final Cry of Freedom – the Old Slave Owners must return to where they crawled out of – as the robbers and murderers of the Silk Roads honest traders and travellers.
For there is now a New Silk Road to plunder!
The Finks of their Financial edifices somehow negotiated and bagged ‘Legal Agreements’ from their owned and run traitor to Ukraine leader , which they will hold as a ‘Contract’ – like the Balfour Declaration was a century ago, in the midst of that European War – equally designed to get rid of pesky People demanding fair wages and quality of life whilst also setting up the grabbing of Russia from these who resisted their demands for centuries.
Yes history repeats because the same Powers attempt the same Plan through generations whilst the rest of us slaves are taught to think only of our own lifetimes, our own few hours of sport and movie watching addictions ; our only few minutes of fame, celebrity and orgasmic seconds of self induced Soma!

Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 16 2023 13:03 utc | 216

Superb, b. Absolutely superb!
As others have noted, this series you’ve started could eventually represent a significant addition to the published historical literature on the conflict. (I’m reminded of books like William Shirer’s “Berlin Diary”.)
It’s almost like time travel as I read your work and strongly recall last year’s events as they were happening. Bravo!

Posted by: JMF | Feb 16 2023 13:05 utc | 217

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 16 2023 11:12 utc | 199
Thanks, yes, I remember those Bofors L/60 guns, old but lethal in the right circumstances. Without automatic aim/track and time-fused ammo they’ll struggle against drones but better than nothing and should produce spectacular propaganda footage =)
Posted by: Milites | Feb 16 2023 11:33 utc | 204
Thanks for that, the strategy has clearly shifted with the recent attacks. I’m specifically wondering about the claim that RF is flying surveillance drones “en masse”, especially if this turns out to mean deeper into Ukraine, not just within artillery range of the front line.
This might suggest better integration of drones into data collection and target identification, rather than being operated simply as a kind of flying first-person spotter for local fire support units.

Posted by: anon2020 | Feb 16 2023 13:07 utc | 218

Stoltenberg…looks and sounds very agitated, if not desperate. Not someone acting well under pressure. Someone or something has him under pressure.
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 16 2023 12:32 utc | 211
He started off believing he was going to defeat and dismember Russia. Delusional. Now, he has to face the reality that the NATO effort has reached its end. Vlad has put his nukes on alert and taken his nuclear fleet out to sea. Stolty undoubtedly realizes if he goes one step further, he likely will cause a nuclear conflagration. His big mouth and crazy ideas have backed the world into a corner. So he’s a trapped rat with no easy way out

Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Feb 16 2023 13:12 utc | 219

Re: the Ukraine‘s Right to Exist as a sovereign entity
When 2/3s of working age citizens vote with their feet and leave.
When approx. 30% of the population votes for secession
When the regime needs to banish 20% of parliament for wrongthink.
You might just have a legitimacy problem

Posted by: Exile | Feb 16 2023 13:12 utc | 220

Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Feb 16 2023 12:47 utc |
Excellent summary, Kellen!

Posted by: Chris | Feb 16 2023 13:21 utc | 221

Tom Q Public @ 119. I read the piece at Black Agenda Report. It is true that Libertarians, specifically followers of the ideas of long dead von Mises, are the predominant group in the national anti-war coalition organizing next Sunday’s Washington and regional ant-war demonstrations. I don’t follow the libertarian view in any way, but antiwar.com, which is run by admitted von Mises followers, I still find to be a valuable website. In the SF Bay, these folks have led the local anti-war coalition since the demonstrations against the Iraq war in 2003. Justin Raimundo, first editor of anti-war.com and self-professed Ayn Rand acolyte, used to physically lead the demonstrations. Like the national coalition, the Bay Area coalition has always been weak in its representation of the Black community. Which greatly weakens the strength of the ant-war movement, imho. HOWEVER, I disagree with the writer of the BAR/Consortium News article who suggests that anti-war and anti-imperialist Blacks should boycott over the non-representation of POC as speakers and in the March leadership. Instead, demands should be made by such organizations for a voice in planning and on the speakers platform. The writer of the BAR piece is too young to remember that the coalitions for national demonstrations against the Vietnam War also minimized the number of Black speakers, usually restricted only to Dick Gregory and Jessie Jackson. The absence of an African American voice in the ant-war movement in the US weakens it, so I disagree with the writer’s conclusion that the demonstrations should be avoided by Black anti-imperialist organizations like BAR due to the lily-white and limited world views of those who currently control the US anti-war movement.

Posted by: mjh | Feb 16 2023 13:34 utc | 222

So he’s a trapped rat with no easy way out
Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Feb 16 2023 13:12 utc | 219

Stoltenberg knows that at best he is on his way to jail for his part in the Nordstream sabotage.

Posted by: too scents | Feb 16 2023 13:36 utc | 223

@Kellen Cramer 219
“Vlad has put his nukes on alert and taken his nuclear fleet out to sea”
says who exactly?
I only could find a Norwegian source:
https://inews.co.uk/news/world/ukraine-war-norwegian-intelligence-russian-nuclear-escalation-2150828
Call me naive, as of yet I rather like to believe Pavel Podvig, that there is nothing unusual happening.
(Podvig, who I think is quite depressed about all this and has no reason to sugar-coat)
But of course, I could be wrong.

Posted by: AG | Feb 16 2023 13:39 utc | 224

@ Noam A. Larkey | Feb 16 2023 11:23 utc | 203
No lipstick necessary. Does it look like “taking out seven countries in five years” ? No it doesn’t, so far… Dynamics of the conflict are constantly evolving – we are not there yet with conquest. Conquest is not entirely started yet, judging by territorial gifts to Ukraine on orders froom Ulianov Lenin, circa 1921. Those were, and are indisputably Russian territories, deliberately omitted from settlement, during disintegration of Soviet Union, under pressure from IMF and false promises from NATO.

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Feb 16 2023 14:00 utc | 225

Jennifer Stoltenberg is doing her best impression of the American Karen.
“Where is my ammunition??? I ordered it months ago!!! I wanna speak to your manager!”

Posted by: Comandante | Feb 16 2023 14:06 utc | 226

@mjh | Feb 16 2023 13:34 utc | 222
Martin Luther King, Jr. led his first anti-war march in Chicago on 25 March 1967, and reinforced the connection between war abroad and injustice at home: “The bombs in Vietnam explode at home—they destroy the dream and possibility for a decent America.”
King was chastised for his position against the government and the media’s ‘good war.’ Even some Blacks disagreed with him at the time.
So yes, it’s a shame that the Black community can’t do what King did, and pick up his mantle and remake the point that King did, i.e. the bombs in Europe explode at home.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 16 2023 14:09 utc | 227

Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Feb 16 2023 13:12 utc | 219
Uncle tungsten posted some biographical info on Stoltenburg (Doltenburg?) the other day, creepy stuff like a “Steiner” education.
Yet another strange dullard on which the WEF can wholeheartedly depend.

Posted by: anon2020 | Feb 16 2023 14:12 utc | 228

Posted by: Noam A. Larkey | Feb 16 2023 11:23 utc | 203
I am not convinced Putin ever intimated it is a war of conquest at all. Even if he did, I would welcome it , as Ukraine never was anything but a part of the Russian nation since the end of the first millennium. Even if in a different world , it was in fact a separate country , I would still welcome it as a conquest ; because the Ukraine has abdicated from being such an “independent “ nation over at least thirty years , and I would be happy to give you a long list of proofs for my statement if asked.
Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish .

Posted by: Brother Ma | Feb 16 2023 14:17 utc | 229

Posted by: rk | Feb 16 2023 12:56 utc | 215
https://t.me/intelslava/44544
“…. It is noteworthy that in recent days, Russian reconnaissance UAVs have begun flying over Ukraine en masse.”
Hey, rk, have you seen any specific information about RF flying lots of surveillance drones over Ukraine recently? I suppose Intel Slava might be referring to these decoy balloons and drones, I was wondering if there’s anything specific about undated surveillance capabilities?
Asking for … a friend … whose trapped inside the body of another friend!

Posted by: anon2020 | Feb 16 2023 14:21 utc | 230

Who controls NATO?
NATO’s Command Structure is under the authority of the Military Committee, NATO’s highest military authority composed of the Chiefs of Defence of all twenty-nine member countries. The NCS consists of two strategic commands: Allied Command Operations (ACO) and Allied Command Transformation (ACT).
Oh sure, a committee runs NATO. . .not.
Let’s try again:
Who is the chief of NATO?
The web answers: Jens Stoltenberg is a Norwegian politician who has been serving as the 13th secretary general of NATO since 2014.
Oh come on, who actually runs this criminal operation?
The current Supreme Allied Commander, Europe (SACEUR) is US General Christopher G. Cavoli.
…Can’t get higher than “supreme.”

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 16 2023 14:25 utc | 231

mjh, Don Bacon:
The loss of the giants, Bruce A.Dixon and Glen Ford, took a lot from the Black Agenda Report and from the intelligentsia of the United States, no matter the color. I have no doubt they would be against this war, none.

Posted by: morongobill | Feb 16 2023 14:28 utc | 232

@Kellen Cramer | Feb 16 2023 12:47 utc | 213
Add on:
6) Not having fought since the days of their great-grandfathers against a peer adversary, the MIC & their Congressional Hawks do not fear losing.
7) Perhaps most importantly, the US Ziocons have little or no loyalty to the US. They view the US parasitically, merely as a means through which to effect their goal of world domination.

Posted by: Ciaran | Feb 16 2023 14:34 utc | 233

@morongobill | Feb 16 2023 14:28 utc | 232
Yes, I remember June of 2008, when the presidential campaign featured the Black Mr.Hope & Change, and BAR’s Glen Ford came out with a position of non-support for Barack Obama because he was just an echo chamber for the DNC.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 16 2023 14:34 utc | 234

Changing their tune bit by bit:
“Gen Mark Milley, chair of America’s joint chiefs of staff, has said neither Russia nor Ukraine is likely to achieve their military aims, and he believes the war will end at the negotiating table.
The Pentagon is re-examining its weapons stockpiles and may need to boost military spending after seeing how quickly ammunition has been used during the war in Ukraine, Milley said in an interview with the Financial Times.
While he did not tie the depletion of stockpiles to his support for peace talks, Milley said he still believed the war would end at the negotiating table.”
Guardian

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Feb 16 2023 14:42 utc | 235

Ciaran | Feb 16 2023 14:34 utc | 233
the rulers of the usa cannot be permitted to run a ‘burglar game’ with russia…..
the end will be ‘mad’

Posted by: paddy | Feb 16 2023 14:43 utc | 236

@ThusspakeZarathustra | Feb 16 2023 14:42 utc | 235
Milley said he still believed the war would end at the negotiating table.
Let’s be honest and call it a surrender table.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 16 2023 14:47 utc | 237

Feb 16 2023 14:25 utc | 231
cavoli is also ‘commander’ of us european command.
he is the commander who gets all the ‘reinforcenments flown in to hook up with their pomcus’ and drive into the fulda….. then the pitiably few ships start moving.
the eu forces mobilize and hook up with the us army…..
would cavoli prevent the usmc from coming in and winning the war?

Posted by: paddy | Feb 16 2023 14:54 utc | 238

@Don Bacon 231
since I am reading about this issue in the 1950s – really: who is NOW in charge over NATO nuclear and conventional forces?
(which are under US control almost entirely – France too?)
But in essence? On NSC level.
Who decides to e.g. sacrifice Europe? As was the case in every war simulation? Do European heads of state have any say in that?
I mean according to internal statements and records, not press conference babble.

Posted by: AG | Feb 16 2023 15:02 utc | 239

DunGroanin | Feb 16 2023 13:03 utc | 216
“Yes history repeats because the same Powers attempt the same Plan through generations whilst the rest of us slaves are taught to think only of our own lifetimes, our own few hours of sport and movie watching addictions ; our only few minutes of fame, celebrity and orgasmic seconds of self induced Soma!”
That is a workable explanation of our situation and perhaps suggests a remedy .
In Mao’s time and place of starvation and absence of reading/writing ability [no education], the remedy seemed to be:
You want food to eat?
You want shoes?
You want education to read and write?
You see that landlord’s grain silo over there?
You want to unite with others who want to eat and have education to make life better?
Come with us!

Posted by: chu teh | Feb 16 2023 15:07 utc | 240

Posted by: anon2020 | Feb 16 2023 14:21 utc | 230
I don’t believe anything coming out of Ukr military. It’s probably for Moldova, “we see balloons!”, “we see balloons too!!!”. “Danger, danger!!!”

Posted by: rk | Feb 16 2023 15:15 utc | 241

Posted by: anon2020 | Feb 16 2023 14:21 utc | 230
I recall seeing one definition of the ”reconnaissance” balloons is actually radar deflecting decoy balloons. That’s what they are and work very well in large numbers.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 16 2023 15:24 utc | 242

Don bacon no. 237
Exactly:
“after seeing how quickly ammunition has been used during the war in Ukraine”
It’s taken them this long to figure it out. Duh!!!!

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Feb 16 2023 15:25 utc | 243

which are under US control almost entirely – France too?
Posted by: AG | Feb 16 2023 15:02 utc | 239
Yes, everyone now.
The plan must be to place nukes around Russia, all borders from Black Sea to Finland. Then use their protection to continue war in Ukr and send terrorists in Russia, with no limits on actions. It’ll also cancel the hypersonic advantage, Moscow will be at minutes distance from nukes. Which makes the “slow is best”, stuck in Donbass in artillery duels after a year, a very idiotic strategy. People less dumb than team Shoigu would be at Ukr borders now, warning nato puppets like Poland or Sweden about preemptive strikes if they talk again about having nukes on their territory.

Posted by: rk | Feb 16 2023 15:28 utc | 244

“Vlad has put his nukes on alert and taken his nuclear fleet out to sea”
says who exactly?
Posted by: AG | Feb 16 2023 13:39 utc | 224
“Press review: Why Putin put nuke forces on high alert”
https://tass.com/pressreview/1412885
“the first time when Russia’s nuclear forces were transferred to such a mode since the end of the Cold War.”
This is a Tass link; the original story came from Kommersant. Couldn’t find the link that stated the nuclear fleet had been ordered out to sea, but it was in the original article I read, I just can’t find it now.

Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Feb 16 2023 15:33 utc | 245

Putin probably reviewed the Nordstream story and thought about Biden, “This guy is crazy. Nothing is beyond him.” And so it was a reasonable move for him to put his nuclear forces on high alert, to be ready for anything at all times.

Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Feb 16 2023 15:45 utc | 246

@mjh 222
thx!
I wasn´t aware of this issue being as old as Iraq.
We are going to have comparable problems in Germany with demonstrations coming up this WE and next week, the media of course denouncing them from the start.
The unforgiveable mistake made by the genuine German Left of the past 15 years was to abandon working-class interest and now they are divided and powerless because millions of people, potential voters, potential protesters, see no representation and now do not have the incentive to join the protest – even though they share the outrage. Or rather vote nominally right-wing, lead by people who to quote you are von Mises ideologues.
And the “intellectual” / life-style left has almost entirely failed.
Detail: Germany´s antiwar fiction nominated for an Academy Award and produced by streamer Netflix “All Quiet on the Western Front” will be shown as part of an accompanying cultural program to the Munich Security Conference which will be held this WE.
The fact that producer Netflix Germany agreed to show a movie condemning war does not draw a conclusion from the apparent fraud of its decision to show it as part of a convention planning world wars tells you a lot how the entertainment industry has completely switched sides.
Even though we know that film folks never were revolutionaries their popular appeal was not harmful if adequately put to use.
Today people know about Watergate because of films, not because of the WaPo. They know about PsyOps thanks to movies, they quote industrial products like Matrix.
And the new MSM-elites are very kin to this new wave of highly professionalized PR lifestyle that has lost almost all substance in terms of political and economic education.
One reason why a report by Sy Hersh is met with so much negligence.
It´s not because they know, it´s because they do not.
So education will be paramount.

Posted by: AG | Feb 16 2023 15:46 utc | 247

Kellen Cramer no. 245
The tass link is from february 28th 2022. There is a link to kommersant but that’s in Russian and the same date.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Feb 16 2023 15:47 utc | 248

Milley’s all over the place.
General Mark Milley says Russia has already ‘lost’ in Ukraine
“Ukraine remains free, they remain independent. NATO and this coalition has never been stronger, and Russia is now a global pariah,” Milley said. “And the world remains inspired by Ukrainian bravery and resilience. In short, Russia has lost — they’ve lost strategically, operationally, and tactically, and they are paying an enormous price on the battlefield.”. . .
https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/general-mark-milley-says-russia-has-already-lost-in-ukraine/

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 16 2023 15:52 utc | 249

The tass link is from february 28th 2022. There is a link to kommersant but that’s in Russian and the same date.
Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Feb 16 2023 15:47 utc | 248
Thanks for the correction. Why that article was put in with current ones I don’t understand. Anyway, I should have checked the date, usually do. This is where a delete feature would come in handy.

Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Feb 16 2023 15:56 utc | 250

I would not rule out Seymour being Epsteined/killed/dissapeared/silenced.
After all these are the same lunatics that used armed F16s to force the Bolivian Presidential plane to land so they can search the plane for a stowaway Eddie Snowden.

Posted by: Comandante | Feb 16 2023 16:00 utc | 251

Kellen Cramer no. 250
I believe Russia did put their nukes on alert. It was a while ago. Don’t know if they still are. Anyway it’s a complete fiasco. And the lies and propaganda from UK/USA/EU is abysmal.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Feb 16 2023 16:13 utc | 252

@Kellen Cramer 250
still thx for checking!
yes It´s strange

Posted by: AG | Feb 16 2023 16:19 utc | 253

The only recent news is that Norway said that Russia has placed nukes on their ships for the first time since 90s. But no one else commented on that and that’s all. Like I’ve said in a post above, nato is manufacturing stories about nukes to prepare the population for deployment of nukes everywhere, pretending there’s some danger from Russia and probably China. Japan recently also talks a lot about nukes for no reason. But it’s the same reason.

Posted by: rk | Feb 16 2023 16:27 utc | 254

1. The Democrat Party has become a war party. They’re responsible for Syria, Libya, Yemen, and Ukraine. Obama, Hillary, and Biden are typical Democrat warmongers. [.]
@ Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Feb 16 2023 12:47 utc | 213
A bit of history for you; there’s not one grain of sand separating the DemocRats for the RepubRats both are in support of wars – that’s their bread and butter.
You may be interested to read and I invite ALL patrons at the bar as well, this very long piece by  Claes G. Ryn, Emeritus Professor of Politics, Catholic University, posted at The RonPaul Institue for Peace and Prosperity.
Copying the descriptor from our treasured one, Karlof1 “It is a doozy”
A deep dive and when done reading, exhale – you’ll find being awarded a Ph.D. just for having read the piece.
The neocons are named and skewered on bamboo spikes and BBQed to a crisp. This article will be sent to Ms. Cookiie’s desk and she will be fuming. Who knew of her role since 2008 !!?
Hubris Kills Diplomacy
February 15, 2023

International conflict cries out for statesmanship. It calls for the kind of leadership that rises above the passions of the moment, takes the long view, considers the legitimate interests of all, and looks for creative solutions. The temperament of statesmanship is prudence and restraint. This type of leadership requires not only relevant experience but a historical perspective, critical distance to the present, and imagination.


There also can be no statesmanship, no diplomacy, without empathy, that is, a willingness to see a conflict from the point of view of opponents. Neither can there be any compromise and relaxation of tensions without a measure of modesty. To assume that all right is on your side is incompatible with statesmanship. Such arrogance also runs counter to the old Western view of human nature, whether classical or Christian. It is a prescription for confrontation and disaster.


What brings these considerations to mind is America’s way of dealing with Russia since the crumbling of the Soviet Union. It can be argued that conceit, ignorance, and lack of strategic empathy have played far too large a role in American foreign policy in the post-Cold War period.[.]
The U.S. abandoned its older, limited notion of “national interest”, replacing it with an ideologically charged notion of global responsibility and hegemony. 
Ever since the 2008 Bucharest Summit Declaration (a major architect of which was then-U.S. ambassador to NATO and current undersecretary of state Victoria Nuland) in which NATO formally endorsed Membership Action Plans (MAPs) for Ukraine and Georgia.
Washington has simply ignored Russia’s numerous expressly-stated strong objections to having Ukraine, historically closely connected to Russia, join NATO.
As tensions over this issue grew, the U.S. continued the unofficial military integration of Ukraine into NATO, providing weapons and training.
(emphasis added here)
This policy accelerated after  Russia’s 2014 annexation of Crimea. Why Russia perceived NATO conduct as threatening might be conveyed by asking how American leaders might have reacted if Russian soldiers and weapon systems had been a part of maneuvers in Cuba, [.]
Read in full at link
The RONPAUL INSTITUTE FOR PEACE & PROSPERITY
reprinted with permission from
https://www.agonmag.com/p/hubris-kills-diplomacy

The swamp creatures, like worms hiding under the alligators, are deeply burrowed and no statesman dare drain the swamp.

Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 16 2023 16:28 utc | 255

DunGroanin | Feb 16 2023 13:03 utc | 216
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Thank you for this and all of your compelling and poetic posts. Rare writers make reading effortless. Mere words disappear to the mind’s eye.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Feb 16 2023 16:30 utc | 256

Posted by: brian | Feb 15 2023 23:53 utc | 145

nonsense: there is a ukrainian language. just as german and english are variants. It even has its own script

Le rubbish ! Ingleesh is obviously a dialect of français ! Ye mono-frottaging onanist !
(The gratuitous insult is pour l’esprit!)

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Feb 16 2023 18:33 utc | 257

Sy Hersh tries to tell Amy it’s nearly “over” in Ukraine:

And at this time, we’ve got a president, a Democratic president, that has done some good stuff domestically, but I can tell you I’m not understanding the total commitment to Ukraine. And I’m not understanding what I read, because, obviously, I have access to a lot of people who see things… Anyway, the bottom line is, the stories I’ve been getting about the war, particularly beginning in fall — and that’s what gets interesting — have been pretty dire. The Russians, I don’t think — I think the end is just a question of time. Right now it’s a question of how many more people Zelensky wants to kill of his own people. It’s going to be over.

https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/16/democracynow-interview-seymour-hersh-on-how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream-pipeline/

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 16 2023 18:52 utc | 258

Posted by: Comandante | Feb 16 2023 14:06 utc | 226

Jennifer Stoltenberg is doing her best impression of the American Karen.
“Where is my ammunition??? I ordered it months ago!!! I wanna speak to your manager!”

Superb !

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Feb 16 2023 19:02 utc | 259

Posted by: chu teh | Feb 16 2023 15:07 utc | 240

In Mao’s time and place of starvation and absence of reading/writing ability [no education], the remedy seemed to be:
You want food to eat?
You want shoes?
You want education to read and write?
You see that landlord’s grain silo over there?
You want to unite with others who want to eat and have education to make life better?
Come with us!

Nice ! I’ve recently, started last April, been re-reading the little red book.
Cheeky handle there mate, I like it !

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Feb 16 2023 19:07 utc | 260

Exile | Feb 16 2023 7:34 utc | 180
Piotr Berman | Feb 16 2023 5:48 utc | 175
Exile, I tried to ‘red-pill’ my close family and friends, in US and in Europe, to no avail. So, I hit them hard today, with the link to Tucker Carlson (courtesy of Piotr Berman) and threatened that, if they do not watch it, they need not talk to me. Will see, what transpires…

Posted by: fanto | Feb 16 2023 20:45 utc | 261

Posted by: Kellen Cramer | Feb 16 2023 12:47 utc | 213
There is no “left” media and those thing you’re calling “left”, are not.

Posted by: Arganthonios | Feb 16 2023 21:15 utc | 262

Armed Forces of Ukraine mistakenly blew up an infantry fighting vehicle with wounded National Guardsmen in Artyomovsk: details
On February 12, in the area of the T-0504 highway between Artyomovsk (Bakhmut) and Chasovy Yar, a unit of the 53rd mechanized brigade destroyed two infantry fighting vehicles Pbv-501 (similar to the Soviet BMP-1), inside which were at least 15 wounded servicemen of the 4th brigade operational appointment of the National Guard of Ukraine.
According to the Military Chronicle, the crews of armored personnel carriers took away the wounded Ukrainian soldiers near the village of Belaya Gora, but could not take them to the doctors a few kilometers from the front line.
After starting to move along one route, the BMP crews came under fire from the artillery of the RF Armed Forces, were forced to turn onto the road in the “gray zone” located near the front line, and stopped communicating.
When entering the area of the village of Stupochki, the infantry fighting vehicles were mistakenly taken for a breakthrough by a sabotage group of the RF Armed Forces and came under heavy fire from units of the 53rd Motorized Brigade and the 24th Aidar Battalion.
According to preliminary data, all the wounded who were in two Pbv-501 armored vehicles died. The fate of the BMP crews is currently unknown.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/33772

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 16 2023 21:19 utc | 263