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February 15, 2023
The Buildup To War In Ukraine – Tuesday, February 15, 2022

After the 2014 coup in Kiev the dully elected President Yanukovich had fled the country. His supporters in parliament were afraid and would no show up for further assemblies. The incoming U.S. selected government immediately set out to suppress the Russian speaking parts of Ukraine. The first move of the rump parliament, now dominated by right-wing people from west Ukraine, was to prohibit the Russian language for official business.

The ethnic Russian population in the east and southeast was opposed to the coup and rebelled against it. The new government tried to oppress it by military means. But a lot of soldiers defected to the rebels and soon those won the upper hand. The Ukrainian government troops were decisively defeated, twice. Each time the French, German, Russian and Ukrainian governments set down to come to agreements on how to proceed:

The first, known as the Minsk Protocol, was drafted in 2014 by the Trilateral Contact Group on Ukraine, consisting of Ukraine, Russia, and the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), with mediation by the leaders of France and Germany in the so-called Normandy Format. After extensive talks in Minsk, Belarus, the agreement was signed on 5 September 2014 by representatives of the Trilateral Contact Group and, without recognition of their status, by the then-leaders of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and Luhansk People's Republic (LPR). This agreement followed multiple previous attempts to stop the fighting in the region and aimed to implement an immediate ceasefire.

The agreement failed to stop fighting, and was thus followed with a revised and updated agreement, Minsk II, which was signed on 12 February 2015. This agreement consisted of a package of measures, including a ceasefire, withdrawal of heavy weapons from the front line, release of prisoners of war, constitutional reform in Ukraine granting self-government to certain areas of Donbas and restoring control of the state border to the Ukrainian government. While fighting subsided following the agreement's signing, it never ended completely, and the agreement's provisions were never fully implemented.

The Minsk II agreement, a "Package of measures for the Implementation of the Minsk agreements", was endorsed by the UN Security Council Resolution 2205. It is available here. The package includes clearly numbered tasks. An immediate ceasefire is task 1. The 'Launch of a dialogue' about legislation measures the Ukrainian parliament would have to take to recognize a special status for Donbas is step 4.  Step 9 is the reinstatement of full control of the state border by the government.

These clearly defined steps later proved to be the reason why the agreement was never fully implemented. The government of Ukraine insisted that step 9 should be taken before step 4. The governments of the Donetsk and Luhansk republics insisted on the original sequencing as giving up any control over the boarder with Russia, and the supplies coming through it, would have taken away their ability to defend themselves before the other steps, specifically the recognition of the special status of the Donbas republics, had been taken.

Over the years several summits were held to push for a fulfillment of the Minsk agreements. But the government of Ukraine, with 'western' support, continued to block the process.

On Tuesday, February 15 2022, following talks with the German chancellor Olaf Scholz, President Vladimir Putin ordered some troops who had been stationed near the border with Ukraine to move back to their barracks.

France 24 listed other headlines of the day:

  • Blinken speaks to FRANCE 24: The Ukrainian crisis has 'reinforced transatlantic solidarity'
  • NATO chief says 'cautious optimism' over Ukraine crisis
  • Ukraine crisis: Blinken says risk of Russian invasion high
  • Should I stay or should I go? Ukrainians remain resolute despite a war of nerves
  • Scholz welcomes Russian withdrawal of some troops from near Ukraine
  • Putin, Scholz begin talks in Moscow over Ukraine security
  • Russia says some troops return to base, Ukraine reacts cautiously
  • Markets calmer after Zelensky's invasion joke spooks investors

France 24, and many other 'western' media, missed something important that was happening in Russia:

Russia's parliament will vote on Tuesday to decide whether to ask President Vladimir Putin to recognise two Russian-backed breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine as independent, the speaker of the Duma lower house said.

The idea of asking Putin to recognise the breakaway territories was first floated by lawmakers on Jan. 19 but has taken weeks to get onto parliament's agenda, with the Kremlin declining to comment on whether it likes the idea.

In late January 2022 the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) had analyzed the idea:

On January 19, 11 members of the State Duma, Russia’s lower house of parliament, registered a draft law to recognize the independence of two separatist statelets in eastern Ukraine that have been warring with Kyiv since 2014 with substantial but undeclared support from Moscow. The document, which was put forward by members of the Communist Party, comes amid rising tensions along Ukraine’s border and in occupied Crimea, as Russia continues its buildup of military forces while demanding that the collective West agree to proposals to reshape the European security order to its liking.

This is not the first time that Russian parliamentarians have sought to provide official recognition to the so-called Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics (abbreviated as the DPR and LPR, respectively). In 2014, deputies from the party launched an abortive campaign to collect signatures in support of recognizing the territories’ independence, which would have been delivered to President Putin for consideration. Meanwhile, the Just Russia party called for recognizing the statelets’ independence that same year and has included it in subsequent party platforms.

This was not the idea of the major government supporting United Russia party, but of the parliamentarian opposition. Putin had rejected the 2014 attempt towards independence as he did want to keep the Donbas republics within Ukraine.

CSIS writes that an eventual recognition of the independence of Donbas was seen by its supporters as a step that might help to avoid a war:

The approach suggested by the Communists offers certain advantages to Russia. First, with negotiations on Russia’s security demands stalled, extending official recognition to the LPR and DPR could give Putin a relatively simple way to shift the status quo in Russia’s favor without (necessarily) involving the 127,000-strong Russian forces currently encircling Ukraine.

The chairman of the State Duma’s committee dealing with relations in neighboring states has already indicated that recognizing the statelets’ independence could be part of Russia’s “plan B” in case talks fail. If Russia would want to allow more time for negotiations to play out, while also escalating pressure to compel the West to accept at least some of its core positions, then recognition of the statelets could be considered in the Kremlin as an appropriate next step. Should Ukraine and the West make substantial concessions at that stage, then Putin would be able to proclaim a victory in the current standoff and draw down his forces rather than risk a spiraling escalation with unpredictable outcomes.

During its February 15 session the Duma adopted the resolution:

Russia's lower house of parliament voted on Tuesday to ask President Vladimir Putin to recognise two Russian-backed breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine as independent and the European Union told Moscow not to follow through.

The move by the State Duma, if approved, could further inflame a wider standoff over a Russian military build-up near Ukraine that has fuelled Western fears that Moscow could attack. Russia denies any invasion plans and has accused the West of hysteria.

Recognition of the self-declared Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics could kill the Minsk peace process in eastern Ukraine, where a conflict in the region known as Donbass between government forces and Moscow-backed separatists has cost 15,000 lives.

"Kyiv is not observing the Minsk agreements. Our citizens and compatriots who live in Donbass need our help and support," Vyacheslav Volodin, the State Duma speaker, wrote on social media.

At a news conference in Moscow, Putin declined to be drawn out on how he plans to respond. He said Russians were sympathetic to the residents of the Donbass region, but he wanted the regions' problems to be resolved through the Minsk accords.

Four-way peace talks between Ukraine, Russia, France and Germany were held last week but ended without a breakthrough.

After the talks, Ukraine said it would not yield to pressure from Moscow to negotiate directly with the separatists, while Russia accused Kyiv of putting forward absurd proposals.

The OSCE Special Observer Mission at the ceasefire line in southeast-Ukraine reported of February 15 that the number of ceasefire violations continued to be below average. The number of explosions, i.e. artillery impacts, was higher than average but mostly limited to one area where they hit on both sides of the ceasefire line:

In Donetsk region, the SMM recorded 24 ceasefire violations, including five explosions. In the previous reporting period, it recorded 17 ceasefire violations in the region.

In Luhansk region, the Mission recorded 129 ceasefire violations, including 71 explosions.

The majority of ceasefire violations occurred in areas close to the disengagement area near Zolote (government-controlled, 60km west of Luhansk) (see below). In the previous reporting period, the Mission recorded 157 ceasefire violations in the region, some of which also occurred near the disengagement area near Zolote.

During the reporting period, the SMM camera in Zolote recorded four projectiles in flight, while Mission patrols heard 61 undetermined explosions and 37 bursts of heavy-machine-gun fire, assessed as outside the disengagement area near Zolote but within 5km of its periphery.


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West of England Andy | Feb 15 2023 17:02 utc | 30

It’s a dictatorship, he’s a dictator”, at which point I have to bite my tongue, then take a sip of beer. It’s bloody hard being surrounded by those who regard themselves as enlightened and intelligent!

Paul Craig Murray reports he made a finding that applies to these cases. He says, with respect to the claim that Russia demolished her own pipeline:

The secret is not that people genuinely believe an outrageous claim. The secret is that people do genuinely believe that they are in a battle of good against evil, and it is necessary to accept the narrative being promoted, in the interests of fighting evil.
Don’t question, just follow. If you do question, you are promoting evil. I am sure that is how it works.

To which I must respond that I’m also fighting this battle – just, hopefully, better informed and on the other side.
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/02/10/craig-murray-sy-hersh-the-way-we-live-now/

Posted by: grunzt | Feb 15 2023 20:46 utc | 101

Dima on military summary had some interesting points. Russia has more or less some offensive in the Kupyansk area and Ukraine transferred a nationalist battalion as anti-withdrawing troops, because it’s possible the thing up there could collapse.
He also mentioned that there have been no tanks seen in combat reports for days in the frontline from Kupyansk to Ugledar, meaning that either Uaf withdrew them to the rear maybe to refurbish and wait for the whatever offensive they plan, or they simply don’t have many left. Also, there’s a potential next 10 days could get especially “hot” with the anniversary, Putin speech and Ukraine minister of foreign affairs making some kind of threats. (They always make threats but we’ll see)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQe_K9tl39c

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 15 2023 20:47 utc | 102

David F | Feb 15 2023 20:29 utc | 98
Yep. “Zebra” is Zanon with new stripes.
Yep. I’m opting out of the now tedious language discussion.
Scroll bar over heating from over use in this thread.
Disappointing @bar that more focus isn’t placed on the topics covered in b’s Post.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 15 2023 20:53 utc | 103

waynoinorway @45–
Thanks for your reply to Andy. The West has a huge problem having so many Know-Nothings, which will likely be the West’s epitaph, although it might be put another way.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 15 2023 21:11 utc | 104

14 February USA evacuates embassy in Kiev. USA naval CSG blocks Black Sea
Another thing that happened on 15/2/22 was that Ukrainian oligarch VIPs left Ukraine on private planes with as much cash as they could take. Yeh real patriots!
16/2/22 it kicks off seriously
MOA is handy for the info as mainstream UK internet providers block many sites now (to protect us from disinformation) hahahaha

Posted by: olaf22 | Feb 15 2023 21:16 utc | 105

Posted by: Milites | Feb 15 2023 19:34 utc | 83
As you say the Ugledar setback in itself isn’t a big deal. And there’s nothing in your post I disagree with. But the Ugledar attack comes at the top of previous setbacks in Pavlovka which were also head-on attacks. The question is why do the Russian forces attack this way instead of using the standard Russian doctrine of big incursions? As the cited Indian general said in the previous thread, they have not (yet) shown that they have ability to maneuver warfare. For almost a year MacDouglas, Ritter and many others have predicted these incursions to come. Nothing happens. Meanwhile Wagner/LDPR/Chechens do all the killing.
Marinka is a heap of ruins without any civilians. Eventually it will fall (yes the RAF artillery does help here). But what happens then? Are Wagner++ forces expected to roll up the whole front from Ugledar to Siversk on their own?
I see nobody has a clue what’s going on with the bulk of the Russian armed forces. Well, I don’t either, and I’m not afraid to say it.
Luckily for Kremlin Wagner has finally secured the Artemovsk champagne factory. I bet they’ve asked Prigozhin to send some casks to Moscow for February 21st. While the convicts работу.

Posted by: Zebra | Feb 15 2023 21:25 utc | 106

Posted by: Melaleuca | Feb 15 2023 20:53 utc | 103
Call me whatever or whoever you like. Anyone who ask a question is a concern troll, Scott Ritter is a CIA asset and Ukrainian forces will run out of fuel in April 2022. Things haven’t changed a lot here since I was here 9 months ago.

Posted by: Zebra | Feb 15 2023 21:28 utc | 107

The West has a huge problem having so many Know-Nothings, which will likely be the West’s epitaph, although it might be put another way.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 15 2023 21:11 utc | 104
There is quite a bit of knowledge among my acquaintances, but very little of the wisdom that comes from having a mind open to accepting new or different information.
And thank you for your work, which has greatly added to my wisdom.

Posted by: West of England Andy | Feb 15 2023 21:29 utc | 108

I’ve never understood why the neo-Nazi types in the Azov battalion and other nationalist units put themselves in service to Khazars like Zelensky, Blinken, Nuland, Garland, et al.
Don’t they realize they’ll be eliminated when the Khazars finally win control?

Posted by: Klaus | Feb 15 2023 21:30 utc | 109

About Ukrainian being a language or dialect:
The distinctive quality of a language that sets it apartt from a dialect lingvistically is a standard of a language. French language, for example, has 5 standards of French and that’s in France only. German language has also several standards. Norwegian has two. While Wetern Ukraine mova does not have a standard, it’s not really a dialect of Russian language. In fact there is at least 3 versions of Ukrainian ”languge”: West-Ukrainian. Karpathian and Malorossian one. Wrst Ukrainia is a synthetic ”language” invented by Ukrainian nationalists in late 1800’s and early 1900’s by distorting Malorossian dilalect of Russian language by addition of Polish elements. Mlorossian is simply South-West dialect of Russian language without polonization and it’s real ”Ukrainian” or ”mova” historically. Karpathian Ukraine ”language” is a dialect of South-Western mova with elements from the languages of begone Astro-Hungarian Empire. Lingvistically no version of Ukraine ”language” is really a language at all. Karpathian and Malorossian are historical dialects od Russian and West-Ukrainian is a polonized synthetic and intentionally distorten version of Malorussian dialect.

Posted by: Tsepajev | Feb 15 2023 21:43 utc | 110

Posted by: Zebra | Feb 15 2023 21:25 utc | 106
The Russians cannot use their traditional methods of overwhelming force in the modern ISR environment, they can mass artillery because the guns are a relatively small number and highly mobile. A regimental sized attack would be an easy way to lose a regiment, as the UAF found out in Kherson and their abortive counter-attacks early in the war, with one brigade trapped by a reservoir and destroyed rapidly. This is the Lego brick war, units have to rapidly assemble complete their assigned tasks and quickly disperse back to single bricks, which is the advantage of the BTG formation.
I think you need to read more widely and realise that plenty of Russian units are contributing to the numerous tactical successes that occur on a daily basis, but why would the GS order a massive attack now? Ukraine’s ability to inflict an operational and strategic defeat is roughly the same as the Germans in late 44-45. Fixating on tactical encounters is for the neophyte, the backer of the losing side, desperate to reinforce their crumbling beliefs or regimes desperate to hoodwink their populations. Nothing Ukraine does will alter the outcome, and this realisation is beginning to permeate through the NATO upper echelons, strange that some posters and amateur commentators still focus on Russian failures and possible Ukrainian victory.

Posted by: Milites | Feb 15 2023 21:45 utc | 111

@Down South 89
thx for taking the time!
I see.
(have a friend in Ukraine.
Haven´t heard from since summer. In the hiding.
He already was in the hiding the first time in 2014 when the conscriptors were banging at his door. He went into hiding for a month.
8 years past. Same show.
Fucking nightmare.
Hope he is alive.)

Posted by: AG | Feb 15 2023 21:55 utc | 112

Things haven’t changed a lot here since I was here 9 months ago

Posted by: Zebra | Feb 15 2023 21:28 utc | 107
But b’s topic is an analysis of the situation 12 months ago. What do you expect to have changed? That was fixed 12 months ago. You should take your second-hand TARDIS back to the dodgy dealer who sold it to you, the hindsight viewer is broken beyond repair. The dealer might get a good deal selling it on to a certain Mr. V Zelensky, who is probably wishing he could turn back time.

Posted by: West of England Andy | Feb 15 2023 21:57 utc | 113

Posted by: Milites | Feb 15 2023 21:45 utc | 111
Yes, thank you, there is no place to hide any more, except maybe underground. The only effective course is dispersal and mobility. And it is going to get “worse” when the drone swarms show up in numbers.
Nothing new for indigenous insurgents, but a big change for the “advanced” types who are used to being pretty safe.
And interesting too that the Russians already seem to have thought about it.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 15 2023 21:57 utc | 114

Melaleuca @103–
My sentiments exactly. The following is my educated opinion:
Putin and team imbibed too much of their tonic about Slavic brotherhood and thus had no conception that Zelensky and team would kill so many of their people at the Outlaw US Empire’s behest. A negotiated settlement was still thought possible until the promising breakthrough in April was squashed by Biden and team, which forced a complete reassessment of the SMO strategy and the subsequent partial mobilization. What Putin and his team failed to understand 10 months ago was the insane zealotry–a mania–of Biden and team to inflict a strategic defeat on Russia and drive Putin and team from power. But despite the insanity, the Outlaw US Empire refused to provide Ukraine with the tools to accomplish the Biden team’s goal. Instead, obsolete crap was provided at a price that IMO will never be repaid. As long as Zelensky’s in power, the war will continue. Meanwhile, Russia’s negotiating position has hardened and driving NATO back to its 1997 form is now the primary goal, for Russia knows the Outlaw US Empire will never agree to any form of indivisible security unless it’s forced–that’s been a bipartisan policy continuity since 1989.
The economic destruction of Western Europe was also a clear policy goal, which very belatedly was recognized by some European governments. The most Russophobic have come close to demilitarizing themselves and lack the energy and other resources to rearm themselves. The surprise for the Outlaw US Empire is those nations won’t be buying many arms from it as their economic destruction will prevent that from occurring. Thus, NATO is becoming demilitarized and is even more of a paper tiger now than a year ago. Western Europe was also lucky that the Winter was mild, but it will be very hard for it to refill its gas reserves, which is another point the Outlaw US Empire miscalculated–a broke EU/NATO isn’t going to buy much LNG at the gouging prices offered. As for European industry moving to North America, that won’t happen either as there are closer non-Russian places to move to that have lower energy and labor costs. Yet another miscalculation.
And then there’s the Big Picture where the RoW is going to abandon the Dollarzone, which will cause extreme distress to an already unstable currency and system. (Do read the latest Hudson/Desai, particularly the last half.) My own less technical article on the topic is here. Dedollarization as a Movement was already happening a year ago and has since gathered pace. The only way a national currency can be the global currency is if that nation is the entire world, and that’s not going to happen ever. And that applies to the Yuan as much as the dollar or Sterling before.
Currently, it’s possible to see the changes in demeanor that’s occurred with Lavrov, Putin and other team members because they increasingly see the core of Nazism within the Outlaw US Empire’s Neoliberalism–it’s now being termed Neocolonial but along Fascist lines, as was most Colonialism. Today Lavrov addressed the Duma which I’ve yet to read and is my next task. I’ll provide this long excerpt that encompasses b’s recap and adds other material, but Lavrov is only warming up:

I am grateful for another opportunity to address the deputies of the State Duma within the framework of the traditional “government hours”.
The interaction between the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation is truly comradely. Our regular meetings in various formats allow us not only to give legislators information about the work of the foreign service, but also to learn about your plans, hear advice and tips. This is especially important for us at the current historical stage, when efforts to create favorable external conditions for solving our internal socio-economic problems and improving the well-being of Russian citizens are met with fierce resistance from those who have imagined themselves to be the arbiters of the destinies of peoples. They are trying to prevent us, throwing us back hopes, or even to disrupt the development of the country under the slogans of “decolonization” and “preparation for the disintegration of Russia.” At the same time, the Anglo-Saxons and the rest of the “collective West” that has unquestioningly submitted to them seek at all costs to impose their diktat in world affairs in order to continue to control the external conditions of the development of all mankind for the sake of their own domination of the whole world, resorting to illegal methods of threats, blackmail and direct theft, to punish those who pursue their own independent nationally oriented foreign policy.
Therefore, our updated Foreign Policy Concept will focus on the need to end the West’s monopoly on the formation of the framework of international life, which should henceforth be determined not in its selfish interests, but on a fair universal balance of interests, as required by the UN Charter, which enshrines the principle of sovereign equality of all states.
Grossly trampling on this fundamental principle of civilized interstate communication, the United States and its allies are obsessed with a maniacal desire to revive the neocolonial unipolar world order, to interfere with the objective process of formation and elevation of new world centers. All this in the hope of continuing, as President of Russia Vladimir Putin noted in his speech in the Kremlin on September 30, 2022, “to collect real tribute from mankind … to extract the rent of the hegemon.” An integral part of this course is the long-term deterrence of Russia, including through the expansion of NATO in the direction of our borders, as well as the transformation of fraternal Ukraine into “anti-Russia”, into a Russophobic military bridgehead. In recent years, this line of Washington and its European satellites has reached the “point of no return.”
For a long time we had no illusions about the true intentions of westerners. We remembered how they had not fulfilled the specific political obligations given to the Soviet leadership not to expand the North Atlantic Alliance. How Germany, France and Poland, having renounced their signatures under the agreement between President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych and the opposition, actually sanctioned a bloody coup d’état in Kiev in February 2014 under openly Nazi, racist slogans.
All these years, Western curators directly pushed the criminal Kiev regime to a military solution to the “problem” of Donbass, turning a blind eye to the inevitable large-scale ethnic cleansing and physical extermination of Russians and Russian-speakers. What are the recent cynical confessions of the former leaders of Germany and France, Angela Merkel and F. Hollande, that they needed the Minsk Package of Measures, approved by the UN Security Council, only to buy time and allow Kiev to increase its military potential. In the same vein, P.A. Poroshenko spoke, and after him V.A. Zelensky. The well-known public confessions of these “characters” mean a “confession” regarding the failure of the Minsk agreements, which were proclaimed by all Western leaders as the uncontested basis for the settlement in the Donbass. Simply put, everyone lied to us, just as they lie now, hiding the truth about the terrorist attacks on Nord Streams.
The other day, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg joined the “chorus” of confessions. He said in Brussels that the war began in 2014, and NATO has been preparing it since the coup d’état and the Nazis came to power in Kiev with promises to destroy everything Russian in Ukraine and expel Russians from Crimea. In other words, in order to solve the “Russian question”, which the alliance supported, no matter how much the descendants of the authors of previous attempts tried to refute it.
To the last, we have done everything possible to reduce tensions and find an equal and mutually respectful agreement. To this end, in November 2021, President of Russia Vladimir Putin put forward an initiative to formalize counter legally binding security guarantees in the western direction. They were known to have been arrogantly rejected by Washington and the North Atlantic bloc. They didn’t even want to discuss our legitimate concerns.
All this left us no other choice. A year ago, on the orders of V.A. Zelensky’s regime, the armed forces of Ukraine, led by national battalions, switched to the forceful suppression of Donbass, increasing the bombing of settlements by several orders of magnitude. In response to the official appeal of the DPR and LPR, we recognized their independence and came to their aid in accordance with Article 51 of the UN Charter, launching a special military operation.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 15 2023 22:01 utc | 115

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 15 2023 18:25 utc | 58
Or maybe it’s just “the bra” in French. Zee bra!

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 15 2023 22:02 utc | 116

An interesting link showing just some of the horrors the Ukrainian tankers are going to suffer, when they transition from three man to four man crews. The figures are for peacetime exercises, imagine the chaos in real combat.
https://militaryhealth.bmj.com/content/jramc/136/3/135.full.pdf

Posted by: Milites | Feb 15 2023 22:05 utc | 117

This won’t be anything new to the denizens of MoA, but Mintpress News has a piece up about how the MSM has ignored the Sy Hersh investigation into NS sabotage.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/media-ignore-seymour-hersh-bombshell-report-of-us-destroying-nord-stream-ii/283677/

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 15 2023 22:10 utc | 118

Black Agenda Report weighs in on the February 19 anti-war rally going by the moniker “Rage Against the War Machine.”
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/02/14/the-problem-with-the-feb-19-anti-war-rally/
I have to say they make some good points that probably don’t resonate as well with me as a white person as they might if I were Black or some other “minority.”
And on the opposite side, several authors at Consortium News and Scheerpost say they will be attending anyway. I think this is the right approach for the greater good.
Has anyone had a chance to read BAR’s take and have any commentary on it?
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/02/15/unifying-the-rage-against-the-war-machine/

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 15 2023 22:16 utc | 119

Ukrainian language is so real, that ukrainians started a Web 2.0 site to vote what the words of it should be.
https://slovotvir.org.ua/words/vertolit – this one is for helicopter.

Posted by: Arioch | Feb 15 2023 22:17 utc | 120

So a bunch of years ago some sort of sage out of I can’t remember, maybe it was Omaha, said that these derivative instruments could be tools of great harm, and even though this sage is so wrong in so many ways, evidence suggests there was wisdom in that so sometimes the old farts got something to contribute. With all that said, the only reason I’m posting this is I hope the old farts realize some fiscal instruments could cause so much harm, and makes us of the younger generation wonder why old farts would do this in the first place?
You know?
Either way, I hope wiser minds defuse these bombs in waiting, and I know it won’t be the zionist to choose to do this, but maybe tis time for the zionist to get some of their own medicine? Seriously – and with no trickery let it be done.
I fella can dream can’t he?
BK

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 15 2023 22:29 utc | 121

Posted by: Milites | Feb 15 2023 21:45 utc | 111
What you’re saying implies that everyone who has predicted large scale incursions has been wrong. And that there will be no major operations. Wagner++ must take out the rest of Ukraine’s forces with just at little help from the Russian forces. But from now on even without convicts.
However, I don’t believe the Russian AF are sitting on sidelines. Something must happen simply because Wagner/Chechens/LDPR are not able to do this alone. Or as MacDouglas said, anyone who thinks these troops won’t be used is delusional.
I don’t know what will happen, and it’s fruitless to discuss with people who don’t want answers but only defend whatever their team does. Allow me to sum up this forum’s position with Voltaire’s Candide: It’s for the best of all possible worlds that the Russian armed forces have consistently failed for almost a year.

Posted by: Zebra | Feb 15 2023 22:32 utc | 122

The post above, typos and all was in respone to:
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 15 2023 22:01 utc | 115
Moreover, I put forth in the 21st century, so far been nothing but needless flux – things happen quickly.

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 15 2023 22:33 utc | 123

“…[ And WHY did Russia enter Georgia? Could it have something to do with Bush’s declaration in 2008 that Georgia and Ukraine would become a part of the NATO bloc, you think?]..” Ed@91
There’s no mystery here. Russia responded to Georgia’s invasion of South Ossetia a Russian inclined autonomous region that Georgia was determined to ethnically cleanse.
They attacked on the eve of the Beijing Olympics. There was no doubt that the US was behind the attempt by Georgia.

Posted by: bevin | Feb 15 2023 22:35 utc | 124

Posted by: Zebra | Feb 15 2023 22:32 utc | 122
after Zebra comes what – aardvark?

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 15 2023 22:35 utc | 125

@ Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 15 2023 22:10 utc | 118
The last embedded video compilation in that long article is brilliant…
https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1623359947261071360

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 15 2023 22:36 utc | 126

FWIW, and it’d a few days old now, here’s the most complete translation to English of Evgeny Prigozhin’s interview (from which the quote about “If we need to reach the Dnieper, about 3 years. If just Donbass, then about 1,5-2 more years of work. If we need to reach the English Channel, I have a plan for that, too.” appeared) that I’ve found:

Evgeny Prigozhin is, as most of you know, the founder and head of Wagner PMC. The interview was done by Semyon Pegov, veteran Russian war correspondent with many wars under his belt, and founder of the WarGonzo media project. Image
Pegov’s first question: what’s up in Artyomovsk/Bakhmut?
Prigozhin: Bakhmut has become a center of gravity for the Ukrainian army. Our task in the Bakhmut meat grinder is to get as many Ukrainian troops in there as possible to free up our forces elsewhere.
“WG” will be WarGonzo (Pegov), “P” will be Prigozhin.
WG: Are we close to a full blockade of Bakhmut?
P: It’s too early to say that we’re “close”, there are many routes in & out of Bakhmut, the Ukrainians are well-prepared and know all the routes, our troops are working on an envelopment, frontal assaults on large cities don’t work
WG: I noticed that your media resources, as opposed to the RU MOD, are very slow about reporting their successes. Are there military reasons for this or is it personal preference?
P: As my soldiers say: happiness likes silence. First we’ll take Bakhmut, then tell you about it.
P: We don’t show our men’s faces so the Ukrainian army doesn’t see them. If they see them, they’ll all survive, because death is also afraid of our soldiers.
WG: You said that Wagner PMC has stopped recruiting convicts. What’s up with that?
P: The former convicts are fighting & they’re fighting well. There were some problems to solve but we have a main principle: we’re open and honest with them, they’re open and honest with us.
P: If you signed the contract, you go do your work. The casualty rate among the convicts is the same as with all of our units. Sometimes the convicts fight braver than they should and value their lives less than a soldier should.
P: The convicts don’t only serve in the infantry, but also in other branches & support roles, like all of our other employees. We had a specific procedure for recruiting convicts; it has run its course for organizational reasons. They may be used in other ways.
WG: Some people claim that convicts are used as cannon fodder to be used in the most difficult areas. Is there some truth to this or do all Wagner soldiers fight in the same conditions?
P: What is “cannon fodder”? Brainless biomass whose task it is to get killed by artillery. If an infantryman dies in combat, he’s not cannon fodder – he’s an infantryman who did his job on the front. There is not a single man among the convicts who could be called “cannon fodder”
WG: How are the convict recruits prepared for combat?
P: First they get a month of training, 20 hours a day, with 4 hours of sleep. Including live fire exercises, from dawn til dusk. 5-6 hours a day are theoretical, the rest is physical training.
WG: In any case, it’s probably easier to breathe in a trench than in prison.
P: I’ve been to prison and I can confirm that, indeed, it is better to be in a trench than in prison.
WG: There is a whole mythology about Wagner PMC. It appears to have it’s own ideology or codex. What’s the ideology of Wagner PMC?
P: The ideology of Wagner is to be a collective with near-perfect command & control, where every commander listens to his fighters on the ground.
P: Our ideology is that there every fighter can rise up, that you are a man with lots of adrenaline who is needed by his collective and his country, and therefore, when the motherland called, the lads flew right over wearing tropical uniforms & joined the fight within two days.
WG: I know many people from your ranks, some of them are close friends. I have noticed a very specific attitude towards death among them. Phrases like “being a warrior is to live forever” that became popular in the army came from the PMC. Is there a cult of contempt for death?
P: I would call it a cynical attitude towards death.
(Soldier in the background: “Death is not the end, it’s the beginning of something else”)
P: We’ll all go to hell, but in hell we’ll be the best.
(Soldier in the background: “Absolutely!”
WG: You’ve quoted the movie [“The best in hell”]. I saw your name in the credits. Was it based on several operations, like e.g. Mariupol…
P: No, it’s all a depiction of Popasnaya.
WG: About the hammers. There is a lot of talk about them. I’ll be honest, I’m ambivalent about this, I agree that traitors must be found and punished…
P: I have no idea what you’re talking about. I just know that the hammer is a pretty tool and symbol.
WG: You’re a person who often enough openly criticizes our military leadership. How bad is the situation with our troops really?
P: I’m not criticizing anyone. The most important thing for the army is for the higher-ups to sometimes *see* the lower ranks. The soldiers would be surprised and very happy if the generals visited the trenches more often.
P: When I visit my lads, they know that I’m not some estranged figure, but that I’m with them. All commanders of Wagner PMC are former shock troopers who earned the right to command through their work.
WG: There are rumors that among the soldiers of Wagner PMC there is a certain amount of people with far-right views, who enjoy Third Reich aesthetics, etc. Are there far right radicals here?
P: Every man who joins Wagner PMC must have enough courage, adrenaline and balls to go into the fire and kill the enemy. If you need soft guys with pretty nails who go to church every week, that’s not about Wagner PMC.
P: Wagner values your qualities as a soldier, your devotion to your comrades, your balls and brains. If you like the Third Reich, if you have gang tattoos, we don’t give a shit about that. We only care about how you treat your brothers-in-arms & how you carry yourself in battle.
WG: But what’s your personal opinion?
P: My opinion is that everyone masturbates the way he likes to. The important thing is that he fulfills his duty and goes forward.
WG: For how long are we here?
P: Let’s start with the basics. There haven’t been wars like this since 1945. When I compare Soledar and Stalingrad, I haven’t been to Stalingrad personally, but it was *hard* to raise your head. The amount of shells being fired is even higher.
P: The important thing for us is that the enemy has more casualties than we do. What have we done so far? We grabbed a piece of the Black Sea coast, we secured a land corridor to Crimea. Now we have to focus on Donbass. We have to secure the DPR and LPR.
P: How did the Special Military Operation start? The Ukrainians started misbehaving, did an illegal revolution, which may be their right, but they attacked Russians, & started a genocide. We managed to stop the war in 2014 & for 8 years… I don’t know why we waited for 8 years.
P: Now back to your question, how long will it take. If we need to reach the Dnieper, about 3 years. If just Donbass, then about 1,5-2 more years of work. If we need to reach the English Channel, I have a plan for that, too.
P: But if we decide to go for the English Channel, we need to become like we were in 1941-1945, and, of course, we need to give the Ukrainians their fair share, maybe France, Italy, Bulgaria. Because we will suffer more than enough here with them.
WG: Many people are talking about your political ambitions. How would you describe these?
P: I don’t need any political parties. I have no political ambitions. All my guys say the same: when this story here in Ukraine ends, send us back to Africa, it’s so nice there.
WG: Who are the guys in the background here?
P: The military leadership of Wagner. We can’t show them, like I said, otherwise death will run away. That wouldn’t be fair.
//
Interview’s over. That’s about it.

Found at: https://threadreaderapp.com/user/RWApodcast

Posted by: West of England Andy | Feb 15 2023 22:41 utc | 127

I was watching a video yesterday and Colonel Douglas Macgregor was speaking about Zelensky and how he was not speaking Ukranian when elected president. He was speaking Russian.

Posted by: Joe Moffa | Feb 15 2023 22:43 utc | 128

meh
now its getting lame
chickens start to run but traps now start to work
so lets see what happens next 🙂

Posted by: Macpott | Feb 15 2023 22:52 utc | 129

We don’t get this info in the FUSA.
Many thanks

Posted by: Scot Irish | Feb 15 2023 23:00 utc | 130

We do get the rantings and ramblings of a demented pedophile. So there’s that…

Posted by: Scot Irish | Feb 15 2023 23:03 utc | 131

b – thank you for doing this…
you might want to grab the link and quote before it gets removed from @ jonku | Feb 15 2023 18:55 utc | 68
@ jonku | Feb 15 2023 18:55 utc | 68
thanks… good find! he is stupid enough to come right out and say it..
here is a longer version of the quote from your link @ 68. question and answers with the press..

Lorne Cook, AP:
The Associated Press. The war is coming up to virtually it’s one year mark, and I wonder if you have any thoughts on how that’s changed NATO and in particular your job, and is this a job that you want to keep doing as we come into the next summit in Vilnius.
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg:
In one way, it has not changed NATO. It has just demonstrated the importance of NATO and how important it has been. Actually since 2014, NATO has implemented the biggest reinforcements of collective defense in a generation, because the war didn’t start in February last year. It started in 2014. And that triggered a big adaptation of our Alliance with higher readiness of forces, with more presence in eastern part of the Alliance, with more exercises.
And also, for the first time in many, many years, all Allies started to increase defense spending. So fundamentally, it hasn’t changed NATO. It has only demonstrated the importance of Allies standing together, both in providing support to Ukraine, but also in protecting each other, ensuring that the war doesn’t escalate beyond Ukraine. And when we decided on the morning of the invasion to increase our presence, then we were able to build on the increased presence we have already implemented over the last years.
We decided the battlegroups in 2016. And we actually increased our presence also in the months ahead of the invasion because the invasion was no surprise. This was an invasion we knew was coming and therefore we were prepared when it happened. For me, it is extremely important to focus on my task as Secretary General in demanding and challenging times for the Alliance and that’s what I have to say about that.”

Posted by: james | Feb 15 2023 23:17 utc | 132

The Irish get what they deserve, but if I lived in Ireland, being the place in named after an Island for St. Patrick’s sake, then don’t it make sense for the island to be whole?
I think so.

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 15 2023 23:19 utc | 133

So seriously, ain’t it time for both Scotland and Ireland to separate from a “Kingdom” that has basically never been united?
The writing is on the wall.
I read it.
BK

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 15 2023 23:20 utc | 134

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 15 2023 22:36 utc | 126
Damning. Not only for the fact that it clearly demonstrates who wanted to kill the pipeline, but for the fact that the same idiots go on TV after it happens and blame Russia with straight faces. A deliberate act of sabotage….OK, you’re on the right track…..By Russia….OMFG.
As much as I think the term is overused these days, the American population is akin to a gaslit spouse and subjected to literal Orwell “1984” on a daily basis.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 15 2023 23:20 utc | 135

james | Feb 15 2023 23:17 utc | 132
Thanks james. I reposted the entire thing from a fellow barfly, too scents, who posted that interview with Jens Stoltenburg at the end of a recent thread.
I thought Stoltenburg’s admission that the war started in 2014, and that Nato supported Ukraine since then was worth calling attention to.
karlof1’s quote above of Sergei Lavrov today shows Lavrov making the same point.

Posted by: jonku | Feb 15 2023 23:22 utc | 136

Melaleuca | Feb 15 2023 20:53 utc | 103
Agreed It would be good if people kept to the day’s topic
I have very limited time in the day to get the information i need to get a sensible view on this shit, and whilst it is cool to get some interesting background i do not need to continuously go over old ground (have been following this saga since 2008). Tedious work sifting through for anything new and sometimes feel like giving up on this site
But the censors are closing in……so not many places to go……..back to the cherry vodka

Posted by: olaf22 | Feb 15 2023 23:23 utc | 137

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 15 2023 16:19 utc | 19
That’s a better analogy. Spanish, Portuguese, Catalonian, even Italian, those are languages that with a bit of attention allow a conversation of native speakers to be possible, each one using his own. A not too long stay and interest to learn would suffice to have a good command of any of the above mentioned. Ukrainian as such was a minority language forced upon the majority since Russian is still the lingua franca in the former USSR countries. It does not make much sense to me to force a minority language upon the majority except if a totalitarian project is the goal. Here is a video of a cabinet meeting during the Poroshenko tenure, everybody speaks Russian, Avakov throws a bottle of water to Saakashvili and insults fly, in Russian of course. Language, religion, customs, its all a totalitarian project to separate the founding province of Russia from itself, sort of like Philadelfia separating from the USA or Asturias in Spain from where the “reconquista” to recover christian lands from the moors was launched. Too bad it ended like this, with a nation destroyed, thousands of young lives lost and the world at the edge of disaster, and all thanks to the endless avarice of a declining empire personified by a corrupt, repugnant dottard by the name of Brandon, and a coterie of corrupt functionaries in Europe.
https://youtu.be/DZBfOWrrUGI

Posted by: Paco | Feb 15 2023 23:27 utc | 138

@ jonku | Feb 15 2023 23:22 utc | 136
thank you! i think it is hugely significant and important.. either he is going to backtrack on that, or the cat is fully out of the bag for all the public to see… it is fairly black and white… the west has wanted a war and they have gotten one… trying to pin it on russia is complete bullshit…

Posted by: james | Feb 15 2023 23:27 utc | 139

@ Paco | Feb 15 2023 23:27 utc | 138
paco! i am in seville april 20 – 26 time frame.. if you are around, it would be fun to meet you!

Posted by: james | Feb 15 2023 23:28 utc | 140

jonku #68

We decided the battlegroups in 2016. And we actually increased our presence also in the months ahead of the invasion because the invasion was no surprise. This was an invasion we knew was coming and therefore we were prepared when it happened. For me, it is extremely important to focus on my task as Secretary General in demanding and challenging times for the Alliance and that’s what I have to say about that.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_211689.htm
video ==> https://youtu.be/Cyy1gPk_8rg
Posted by: too scents | Feb 15 2023 10:57 utc | 154

Add to that revealing remark by Jens Stoltenberg we get the dismal ignorance of the NATO military command here deconstructed by Larry Johnson at sonar21:

If you are still wondering why the United States failed to prevail in Iraq and Afghanistan, especially Afghanistan, all you need to do is watch today’s press conference of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group in Brussels, Belgium. What a veritable clown show! The remarks by Lloyd Austin and General Mark Milley revealed two guys with an iron grip on delusion and a total lack of self-awareness.
The audacity of these two failed military leaders to pretend they are qualified to offer advice to Ukraine on how to fight a first world military when their own dismal military records show they failed to defeat a bunch of goat herders and tribesmen that had no combat air, no helicopters and no artillery is the definition of chutzpah. It would be funny were it not for the slaughter underway in Ukraine.

Some excellent videos to amuse here.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 15 2023 23:30 utc | 141

Posted by: olaf22 | Feb 15 2023 23:23 utc | 137
So, olaf, you are so busy you don’t have time to read the posts and links provided.
You kind of feel like – this is your place – you and the other old-timers….and you cast aspersions on those not as smart as you all are? Is that it, or did I read it wrong?
I mean isn’t information beckoning from all quarters, and if it doesn’t come the way you are accustomed to you take offense at that? Is that correct, or am I reading it wrong?
~
And now for the sake of being “on-topic”, the thread I think is in regards to war build up in *kraine….oh gracious me, lets talk about that even though it seems as if it has been discussed ad-infinitum, last I heard Russia is on the offensive, and I for one don’t blame them, I would do likewise, maybe even moreso, but it is their choice to make ain’t it?
~
BK

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Feb 15 2023 23:30 utc | 142

Posted by: james | Feb 15 2023 23:28 utc | 140
Are you performing? Even though Seville is the capital city of my region it is as far from here as Madrid, and I do not have contacts there as I have in Madrid. How can we discuss your plans privately?

Posted by: Paco | Feb 15 2023 23:37 utc | 143

@ Paco | Feb 15 2023 23:37 utc | 143
thanks – sandstone8@yahoo.com

Posted by: james | Feb 15 2023 23:42 utc | 144

One quibble – there is NO Ukrainian Language. It’s a Russian dialect.
It’s as silly as if one tried to say Yankee is a distinct language because Yankees call frying pans ‘skillets’ and rubber bands ‘elastics’
Posted by: Exile | Feb 15 2023 14:57 utc | 1
nonsense: there is a ukrainian language. just as german and english are variants. It even has its own script

Posted by: brian | Feb 15 2023 23:53 utc | 145

Posted by: brian | Feb 15 2023 23:53 utc | 145
Yes, there is a Ukrainian language but way closer to Russian than German to English, the scripts are almost identical too. I’m not a native Russian speaker and I can understand written Ukrainian, but I do not understand written German, unfortunately )))

Posted by: Paco | Feb 16 2023 0:07 utc | 146

Buffalo_Ken | Feb 15 2023 23:30 utc | 142
Thanks for noticing me and for being astute.
I don’t know mate. I am probably autistic, or have a low tolerance for repetitive bullshit. Yes i suppose i do think there are a lot of very dull posters. I probably am being arrogant. I don’t take offense at much, i know homo ‘sapiens’ are idiots. I include myself in that, we are all so clever and so stupid at the same time in different ways.
Yes i am fucking busy as my partner has been in icu a week and has another week there to go if it doesn’t all go tits up. There is a lot to sort out, both practically and emotionally.
Many of the links i can’t get as they are censored/blocked in uk the rest i have usually read already. So yeh, i do feel i ‘belong’ here but am not getting that much out of it. But that’s probably because like all blogs the old timers talk to each other not newbies who are not to be trusted….
I think it is crucial to publicly document what happened this week a year ago, and it is a shame if it gets diluted by all the bs diversions.
But yeh, i will try and chill out a bit more , cheers
possibly an opportune time to say that olaf is my surname i don’t have testicles, not that it should make any difference online..

Posted by: olaf22 | Feb 16 2023 0:11 utc | 147

Buffalo_Ken @121–
Don’t know where you got derivatives from in my comment @115, but they’re only one of several problems and we’ve already seen their negative power in 2008. Essentially, derivatives allow gamblers to go beyond margin restrictions for greater leverage but also greater risk. They could be eliminated via regulation and don’t exist in all financial markets.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 16 2023 0:37 utc | 148

#115 thanks for the post.

Posted by: Dingo | Feb 16 2023 0:45 utc | 149

@ Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 15 2023 18:17 utc | 54
Sorry, you claim that NATO governments don’t own their ammunition production is false.
Example: NAMMO (Nordic Ammunition Company) is owned 50% by the Norway government and 25.1% by the Finland government. It is run like a separate company, with balance sheets and quarterly reports, etc. But most of the profits go to the countries.
In the US, any production above small arms ammo is owned by the government. The operation of the plants are on long term contracts. The term is GOCO. Government owned, contractor operated. Some employees will work for the government as auditors, inspectors and maintenance personnel. The rest work for the contractor. The amount of profit is set by the operating contract, which is rebid every 5 to 7 years. Many plants have few bidders, as the effort for running the plant doesn’t match returns, due to the low profit involved.
Most plants located near large cities have closed down decades ago. They are mainly in rural areas where the labor is less costly, and with large amounts of land surrounding them.

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Feb 16 2023 0:55 utc | 150

Martin Jay February 15, 2023
If the German leader knew all along about Biden’s bombing plot, then he is complicit in treachery to the German people, Martin Jay writes.
If the German leader knew all along about Biden’s bombing plot, then he is complicit in not only an act of international terrorism, but also treachery on a grand scale to the German people who have been led to war in Ukraine under entirely false pretenses.
The entire Seymour Hersh scandal produces more questions than answers as this legend in the newsroom who has been upsetting the western elites since the mid-sixties has really rocked the boat this time with this latest expose of how the US destroyed the Nord Stream pipelines.
But one question raises its ugly head and refuses to go away.
If we are to assume that Germany’s cavernous chancellor was aware of Biden’s intentions as early as January 2022, when Scholz was in the White House, what does that say about Germany’s role or indeed that of the entire EU? Are these two power houses now both slaves to a new world order which expects Europe to acquiesce to its demands, no matter how extreme they may be in the name of serving Uncle Sam?
Biden was planning all along for his navy to plant bombs on the pipelines which would immediately destroy Germany’s economy which was having a boom on cheap gas; he also knew that it would be much easier to draw Germany into a war with Ukraine once the country no longer had a dependency on Russian gas; and he also believed, wrongly, that the operation would shake the Russian economy to its core.
Two out of three guess right, isn’t bad for a half-wit like Biden who remarkably isn’t, it would seem, as dumb as he looks. But if we are to assume that this international act of terrorism wasn’t part of a plan which Scholz was informed about beforehand, then what should the EU and Berlin now do to respond to it?
The answer perhaps is already there in the German press which has decided to place Hersh’s article buried in the highbrow foreign pages attributing it to “Russian allegations”. It’s a similar story with the Norwegian press (as Norway played a considerable role in the operation and is exploiting the situation to its own gains with gas sales) which dismisses it as “nonsense”, following the pattern set out by western media who have invested too much now in the hilarious fake news ruse that Russia was behind it all along. Even Reuters cannot resist putting the boot into Hersh, referring to his epic work of investigative journalism as a “blog”.
Scholz might have been told in the White House about the scheme. He may well have not liked what he heard, but what was he going to do? Three weeks later the war started, and Germany was very quick to respond with its neutral position and the news that it only intended to send military helmets to the Ukrainian army as support, which erupted with a baptism of mockery around Europe as Germany’s new leader hesitated, spluttered and gasped on the world stage. What a sorry excuse for a leader. A sort of male German version of Theresa May with the competence and agility of Liz Truss.
If Scholz did know what was coming in the summer, in June when NATO carried out its military maneuvers, then this might explain why he opted to go in the opposite direction from his initial position and throw the switch completely on Germany’s rearmament. But if he did know that Biden was planning the pipeline attack, then he must have also realized that the US president was luring Putin into a trap in letting the war take place in the first place, when there was a very simple option to stop it simply by agreeing to “look at” the notion of Ukraine not becoming a NATO member. That’s all it would have taken.
But Biden was determined to let the war start and then chose the right moment to blow up the pipelines and cash in a massive pay day – a triple whammie which is really the heart of what the war is really about: making Germany and the EU more servile to Washington’s geopolitical objectives, cashing in on US gas deals (sold at four times the Russian rate) and giving a huge boost to the US military industrial complex all in one shot.
Germany’s role is unprecedented in all this. If Scholz knew the bigger picture, then he has acted as a traitor to his own countrymen who are now paying a huge price in how subservient Germany has become to the US, even down to many companies relocating to America simply to survive.
This single act of Biden’s though, which can be believed by many humble Americans as being patriotic as it created jobs and helped US businesses – is even more worrying on an EU level. Yes, the EU project is young and inexperienced, but if the truth behind the cardboard facades in the institutions in Brussels is that “America calls the shots, EU follows” then the EU project is doomed even before Josep Borrell’s garden has had a chance to blossom. The Americans have got the garden they want in Europe, the gardener to perform his tasks to their orders and now the ultimate confirmation that there is no limit to what the strongest EU country will do for them to cling on to the dying tentacles of a dream where Washington was the sole super power in the unipolar world.
Nostalgia plays a huge role in this relationship which cannot be described as master and concubine, but more like King Kong and pathetic blond shrieking doll. No wonder Scholz and von der Leyen are looking more and more dazed and confused these days. They are wondering how long this secret can remain intact. Is that why the EU just announced even more sanctions against Russia Today, or rather its employees? An act so extraordinarily desperate that it leaves you wondering if these EU apparatchiks have any sense of how the public sees them, as the latest fad feels like armed robbers getting away with a hundred-million-dollar bank heist only to return to the bank the next day to picks up a handful of five-dollar bills which got left on the car park floor in the commotion. Desperation. Scholz particularly looks distressed like a man tortured. What will he tell his grandchildren when the truth comes out Germany is a sex slave to Washington’s gimp in chief and it will be generations of Germans who will have to pay for that repugnant relationship?
Did Scholz Know All Along About the Biden Plan to Bomb Nord Stream? — Strategic Culture (strategic-culture.org)

Posted by: Ed | Feb 16 2023 1:14 utc | 151

A Puzzling Purge in Kiev reported by Natasha Wright, Strategic Culture, February 14, 2023
Here is a good review of the ‘corruption purges’ and some genteel speculation as to the shenanigans of the terrorist trio.

When in the midst of the raging war i.e. the special military operation on the territory where the conflict is ongoing, there begins an all out though untimely campaign in all-guns-blazing style similar to that one ongoing in Ukraine right now under the feeble pretext of the alleged fight against corruption, when millions of people surely have other way more pressing issues to cope with, such as struggling to save their own lives and those of their family members, one has to assume that this is not an anti-corruption campaign at all but of another type of a (final) reckoning, for which corruption serves as a convenient smokescreen.
Moreover, this topic, funnily enough, has hit the headlines in the Western mainstream media and then all of a sudden the story seems to have died down into a strange sounding silence as if the authors were magically issued commands from the same HQs, only to remain silent up until the moment when they get to be issued another set of directives so as to what exactly to write and what political narrative to push in their journalistic columns or TV screens. One has to try and grasp that it is not just another petty local corruption scandal of no particular significance. There must be a mountain of more seriously sinister issues lying behind this seemingly miniscule political molehill other than just a negligible anti corruption campaign.
Of course there is a high level of corruption in Ukraine. We know that already in its staggering proportions at their all-time-high. Namely, the Guardian, London, UK, used to write ‘Welcome to Ukraine, the most corrupt nation in Europe’ back in 2015, immediately after all those ‘pro – European powers that be’ which arrived there after the infamous Kiev coup, the duty of which it was to get Ukraine in line with the NATO standards and eventually get it into the war against Russia shortly afterwards. With Biden most probably fraudulently coming to power after Donald Trump was viciously ousted from office in 2020, it became rather uncomfortable to talk about this plaguing issue in Ukraine. It might be because a fully-fledged business network was owned by Biden’s cocaine-addicted prodigal son, Hunter Biden, who, for what it’s worth, cheated on his own wife with his own dead brother’s widow.
Furthermore, an unexpected collapse of the FTX crypto exchange in autumn 2022, when its owner Sam Bankman-Fried, the U.S. Democratic Party second biggest financial donor after George Soros, having embezzled billions of dollars, hogged the headlines again with their intricately intertwisted channels of corruption in Ukraine. To cut this long Aesopian political fable short, this thirty year-old, highly corrupt U.S. Democratic Party donor used to be managing the financial aid for Ukraine in close corrupt cooperation with the regime there. The U.S. Fox TV reported that the funds allegedly donated for Ukraine were simply ‘recycled’ there (note to SCF readership: this sounds like a new euphemism for money laundering) and via the close cooperation with Kiev and the hefty complementary commissions (read: personal cash contributions for the most obedient Santa’s little helpers) ultimately were shovelled back in the form of a massive donation to the ruling Democratic Party in the U.S., which is surely illegal, and then it was somehow conveniently dropped out of the political limelight to let it vanish into the mainstream thin air.

And more for a barfly to contemplate…

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 16 2023 1:19 utc | 152

Ed #151

Germany is a sex slave to Washington’s gimp in chief and it will be generations of Germans who will have to pay for that repugnant relationship?
Did Scholz Know All Along About the Biden Plan to Bomb Nord Stream? — Strategic Culture (strategic-culture.org)

He is a toy boy for the big banksters and they have his number. It was Scholz that sat on prosecutions when he was regulator in chief for malfeasance issues. I don’t recall the nitty gritty details of the scandal but he does a good job of whitewashing dirty linen.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 16 2023 1:26 utc | 153

Thank you B this work for future reference.

Posted by: SF | Feb 16 2023 1:34 utc | 154

@ Ed | Feb 16 2023 1:14 utc | 151
thanks ed… i sound like a broken record, but do watch the emmanuel todd video in the moa week in review thread.. in it he says at any time any of these european leaders – especially scholz, macron and some of the others, could at any time say no to war and that would be it… but it seems they are cowed by the dominant role the corporate media plays in not letting them propose a different direction… the fact that hersh’s presentation is described by the media as more russian disinfo tells one all they need to know about how boxed in many of these weak kneed politicians are! none of them seem capable or willing to challenge the bullshit…. emmanuel todd discusses this in the last 1/2 hour of that 1 hour 44 minute video..i do recommend you and others check it out if you haven’t already… et nails it on the head.. cheers..

Posted by: james | Feb 16 2023 1:46 utc | 155

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 16 2023 1:26 utc | 153
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Thank you, James, and Uncle. I agree with both of your comments. My view is that this message must be driven into the minds of the German people until they understand the big picture: they have been betrayed by a useless German turd who cares about nothing but himself.
I think bs effort to expose and lay bare the REAL history that led up to February 24, 2022 is of the same vain. Only the German people can “drain the swamp” but they need the information to do it. The questions about whether Ukrainian is a real language or not (while quite interesting) doesn’t mean squat to most of the German people. They, and most European people, want to know who is responsible for the high inflation, the high fuel prices, and the loss of jobs going to the United States.
In other words, Germany is pivotial to ending the US/NATO proxy war with Russia.

Posted by: Ed | Feb 16 2023 2:16 utc | 156

https://sonar21.com/why-are-so-many-in-the-west-lying-about-ukraines-casualties/
Last night I dreamt that the Ukraganda had invented nonexistent Russian military units which they then claimed to have completely destroyed.
This is actually such an obvious propaganda move that I’m surprised the Ukranazis haven’t resorted to it already.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 16 2023 2:29 utc | 157

Zebra@23 etc, Down South@38 etc, David F@98:
Your debate backs up my hypothesis this entire conflict, beginning with the sudden “ordered” increased hostilities by the Azov battalion into the Donbass during the second week of February, 2022, (as detailed by b.) to provide Putin the legal right (justification) to start the proper legal term, Special Military Operation, to provide a worldwide distraction to the worldwide surge of anti WEF/WHO Canadian Flag waving movements.
rk@63 talks about Wagners frustration with their instructions and obstacles places in their way by the “military bureaucracy”.
Yes, nothing really makes sense how this is all playing out unless one considers they’re all actually on the same side, WEF, USA, China and Russia. Zelensky is just one of the many useful idiots.
After Russia launched the SMO the world dropped their Canadian Flags and picked up that useless coloured flag, perfect for a perfect psyop. Impeccably played, hats off boys!
A true scientist considers all the information, all the facts and then looks for a theory that the all neatly fit into. I see nothing, none of the infrastructure losses (NS1 & 2 included) all the loss of life and military hardware, that does not fit neatly into the plan. One must make the story convincing and killing millions of people and causing billions of dollars of destruction does that. Especially if the goal, loss of all individual and national sovereignty is successful.

Posted by: MervRitchie | Feb 16 2023 2:34 utc | 158

I’m on the road going to see my family for one last time, maybe, cause I think their plan is accelerating rapidly. So I’ll just leave that thought above. I won’t be able to see reply’s or comment for days maybe. Cheers and thanks to b and all for entertaining me. I’m proud to know their are others who think for themselves. One last thought, insulting another is not on.

Posted by: MervRitchie | Feb 16 2023 2:38 utc | 159

Gordon Hahn gives us a view “Hersh’s NordStream Terrorist Attack Revelations and the Causes of the NATO-Russian Ukraine War”

Why did Putin invade? Zelinskiy’s nuclear threat, Biden’s NordStream threat, Ukraine’s increasingly powerful NATOized military, the substantial and growing ultranationalist and neofascist nature of Ukraine’s state ideology and political culture? Take your pick or take them altogether.
The American Democrat Party-state’s arrogance, hubris, ideologization, and simple inability to listen and take into account real Russian national security concerns over the course of three decades have had their consequences. So too have: the American mass media’s corruption; their allied police organs’ politicization, authoritarianization, and lack of restraint; and the resulting cluelessness of the American public regarding the outside world and America’s increasingly malignant role internationally.
Hersh’s article will have no effect on US public opinion no less on the conceited and perverted elites.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 16 2023 2:43 utc | 160

@ Et tu 46
In the US , corruption appears to be welcomed as a valid way of kicking against authority. The same could be said of post colonial Pakistan. They like the taste of subversion, as nuch as they like chilli in their morning scrambled eggs. They certainly wouldn’t vote for a politician who was not openly corrupt .
When a society is based purely on rebelling against authority, as a raison d’etre, how could you possibly remove the raison d’etre and with it the corruption. To ex- British Raj South Asians , all British people and institutions are fair game for corruption, with no sign of letting up 75 yearscafter the end of the British Raj. The US kicked out us Brits three centuries ago but still genuinely regards itself as an anti-imperialist entity.
Nothing you can do with a people whose consciences never stop playing the victim card, even after they rule the world.

Posted by: Giyane | Feb 16 2023 3:06 utc | 161

Or US English is not English?
Posted by: Brother Ma | Feb 15 2023 15:53 utc | 13
My wife is British, born in London, as was her mother. True Brit’s do not consider what is spoken in the USA….to them the only English is the Queen’s English. We speak American.
Common theme here is that language is often used as an identifier for indicating what tribe you are part of. Which is why an solution to the Ukraine issue has to account for that, and let the Russian parts rejoin Russia. Else all this is for nought.

Posted by: drsmith | Feb 16 2023 3:08 utc | 162

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 15 2023 23:20 utc | 135
As much as I think the term is overused these days, the American population is akin to a gaslit spouse and subjected to literal Orwell “1984” on a daily basis.
I suggested to a family member this weekend that they may not want to trust much of anything the MSM says about Ukraine.
I was immediately shutdown and called a “communist” and a “Nazi”, in the same sentence. My crime? By questioning the false narrative, I have apparently exposed myself as being a Russia / Putin supporter. No facts will be discussed.
The propaganda war has been won (lost) in the USA. I hope Russia can wrap this up soon. Before the idiots kill our world.

Posted by: Just Observing | Feb 16 2023 3:09 utc | 163

There are 62% of common words between Russian and Ukrainian. For comparison it’s 63% for Dutch and English. Polish, Czech, Belarusian and Slovak have more common words with Ukrainian than Russian. Russian has more influence of Turkic and Finno-Ugric languages as well as Church-Slavonic language. As a consequence, Ukrainian preserved its Old-Russian language base more than modern Russian. For Russian speakers it does sound ancient! Modern Ukrainian takes its roots from Old-Ukrainian (Ruthenian) which became distinct around 14-15th century according to some linguists. From 18th century, Ukrainian language had more eastern european influence. As an example here is how the word red sounds in different languages:
Красный [krasni] (rus), Червоний [chervoni] (ukr), Чырвноны [chirvnoni] (bel), czerwony (pol), červená (slo, cze).
Surzhik is a mix of Kiev speaking Ukrainian and Russian and is mainly spoken in a countryside in Novorossia, Sloboda (Kharkiv, Sumi), Central Ukraine and border areas in Russia and Transnistria. Surzhik isn’t a dominant language.
There’s no consensus whether Ukrainian (malorussian) is a dialect of Russian or a separate language though. I think Spanish-Italian example which was given earlier is more applicable here. Personally, as a Russian, I hardly can understand Ukrainian, especially its western dialects. It takes time to get used to it. I can read Bulgarian and understand more and we don’t doubt Bulgarian is a language, don’t we?

Posted by: Yuri | Feb 16 2023 3:19 utc | 164

Must watch this Ukr woman message to Zelensky https://southfront.org/kneel-down-and-ask-forgiveness-angry-ukrainians-appeal-to-zelensky/

Posted by: Bruce | Feb 16 2023 3:32 utc | 165

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ #Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 15 Feb 2023⚡️
🔹#Belgorod Region:
▪️ RF Armed Forces’ Russian air defences intercepted an AFU missile in Ivnyansky district, civilians were not harmed.
🔹#Starobelsk Direction:
▪️ AFU prepare defence at the #Makeyevka – #Yampolovka- #Terny line, awaiting Russian offensive action.
➖ Artillery duels are taking place all along the frontline, with Russian forces knocking out Ukrainian artillery with barrage ammunition.
🔹#Soledar (#Bakhmut) Direction (MAP):
▪️ Wagner PMCs are advancing on the southern edge of #Paraskoviyevka. Thanks to the liberation of Krasnyaya Gora, the attackers are able to advance from three sides.
➖ The supply of the AFU grouping has not been completely disrupted. However, part of the supply routes have been cut, and another part is under fire control.
In #Bakhmut itself, there are battles in the area of the Mariupol cemetery, and PMC Wagner attackers managed to cut off the AFU supply lines on the #Bakhmut – #Konstantinovka route.
▪️ Furthermore, Russian forces broke through the AFU defence near the #Slavyansk – #Bakhmut highway. According to enemy reports, fighting is taking place on the outskirts of #Berkhovka.
🔹#Donetsk Direction (MAP):
▪️ In #Maryinka, fighting continues in the vicinity of Druzhba Avenue.
➖ The RF Armed Forces are operating in the south and north of the town, driving the AFU out of landings and destroying enemy observation posts.
▪️ The Ukrainian terrorist formations fired barrel and rocket artillery at populated areas of the #Donetsk agglomeration. In the capital of the DPR, hospital and factory buildings in the Leninsky district were hit, as well as at least 20 residential buildings in the Budyonnovsky district.
🔹#SouthDonetsk Direction (MAP):
▪️ Fierce fighting and artillery duels continue in the vicinity of #Ugledar. Ukrainian commanders are moving reserves to the town and conduct combat coordination of assault groups.
🔹#Kherson Direction on Southern Front:
▪️ Artillery from both sides is operating in almost all sections of the front. The RF Armed Forces hit several targets in #Kherson, Zolotaya Balka, #Ingults and #Gavrilovka with high-precision strikes.
➖ In turn, the AFU terrorists struck with barrel and rocket artillery at #Chaplinka and #Alyoshki.

https://t.me/sitreports/4600

Posted by: Down South | Feb 16 2023 4:07 utc | 166

Colleagues, that is, Odessa and even Transnistria are still Putin’s priorities. According to the PMR, most likely the Russians are waiting for the actions of Sandu, then they will have all the trump cards in their hands for the “Patriotic War”, which we wrote about a long time ago.
By the way, we have long insided that Sandu is being crushed by the Brits in order to confuse the cards, it’s not just that Zelensky immediately flew to London and made a “throw-in” in Moldova.

https://t.me/legitimniy/14791

Posted by: Down South | Feb 16 2023 4:14 utc | 167

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 15 2023 18:46 utc | 65
Thank you.

Posted by: Down South | Feb 16 2023 4:41 utc | 168

Glad the whole world is witnesing how corrupt the US media is by their utter silence on the Nordstreamgate Scandal. Also happy to see the whole world witnessing how pathetic the american public is. Noone is talkong about this scandal.
Also happy to see how even much more pathetic are the European governments an their sheeple.
Western countries are the laughingstock of the planet.

Posted by: Comandante | Feb 16 2023 4:57 utc | 169

@Comandante | Feb 16 2023 4:57 utc | 169
how pathetic the american public is
And what do you suggest the “pathetic” American public should do?

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 16 2023 5:12 utc | 170

My wife is British, born in London, as was her mother. True Brit’s do not consider what is spoken in the USA….to them the only English is the Queen’s English. We speak American.
Common theme here is that language is often used as an identifier for indicating what tribe you are part of. Which is why an solution to the Ukraine issue has to account for that, and let the Russian parts rejoin Russia. Else all this is for nought.
Posted by: drsmith | Feb 16 2023 3:08 utc | 162
Shortly after I came to USA, the department I was staying had a visitor from England who spoke very pure Queen’s English. Together with Polish scientists we drove for an excursion in New Hampshire, shortly after sunset we managed to finish the excursion and find our car, and we went for a dinner in a restaurant in the nearby village. At some point, the waitress became curious and ask where we are from. Mike (from England) smiled and ask her to guess. “Germany?” “No, I am from England.” “Ha! And I was in England, I visited my family there!”. Somewhat later I learned that indeed, it is possible for someone to visit family in England, and avoid exposure to Queen’s English, talking with the kin, on the street and in a pub. At least, 40-50 years ago. (In such situations, Americans tend to guess that Poles are from France, although in New Hampshire that should know how French sounds, tourists from Quebec etc.)

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 16 2023 5:14 utc | 171

@Comandante | Feb 16 2023 4:57 utc | 169
What about it, Comandante?
Probably the “pathetic” public should attack the Capitol?
Nope, that’s been done, nothing good came from it.
Re-elect the Trumper maybe? What about it?

Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 16 2023 5:30 utc | 172

Posted by: Down South | Feb 16 2023 4:07 utc | 166
Tiny correction: Krasnyaya Gora –> Krasnaya Gora
By the way, I read about convoluted internal geo-politics of Moldova. Neither Romania nor Ukraine enjoy surplus of electricity to sell. Transdnistria, the separatist, get natural gas from the Kishinev Moldova, which gets it from Ukrainian pipeline from Russia. In turn, 2/3 of electricity in Moldova comes from a single power station that runs on that natural gas. But I do not know what is going on exactly now. This is status explains why Moldova does not simply take over the long and think “rebel region”, immediate energy collapse. As you can see, we have a multiple hostage situation there. I would not be surprised in the natural gas still reaches Moldova, Ukraine still gets a cut, Moldova still has electricity and the separatists are still untouchable.
One may also point the fact that historical Moldova consisted of what is Romanian Moldova today, plus Kishinev Moldova, but NEVER any piece of Transdnistria.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 16 2023 5:33 utc | 173

These are safe words for China as TASS reports:
“‘China stands ready to cooperate with the international community, including France, to promote a path of political solution [for the conflict], and reach a ceasefire at an early date,’ Wang Yi was quoted as saying by the Chinese Foreign Ministry in a statement on its website.”
A political solution entails Zelensky talking with Russia which is something he’s made illegal and won’t do, and that makes Yi’s words very safe. Russia isn’t really ready for a political solution, and neither is the other party–the Outlaw US Empire.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 16 2023 5:47 utc | 174

how corrupt the US media is by their utter silence on the Nordstreamgate Scandal. Also happy to see the whole world witnessing how pathetic the american public is. Noone is talkong about this scandal.
Also happy to see how even much more pathetic are the European governments an their sheeple.
Western countries are the laughingstock of the planet.
Posted by: Comandante | Feb 16 2023 4:57 utc | 169
And yet, there are spots in American corporate media who break that silence. I guess, Tucker Carson caters to the most sophisticated segment of the deplorable, philosopher hunters, polyglot farmers etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOqcwRTuf1Q

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 16 2023 5:48 utc | 175

The Ukraine crisis, and the ideas of Michael Parenti. Under that title, I just launched a new op-ed, of which the key elements are:
Europe faces a choice: socialism and the rule of law, or fascism. The window of opportunity to rid itself of the American empire is closing. The way is still open to an independent Europe that integrates with Asia into a Eurasian supercontinent. Such a course takes the wind out of the sails of the geo-economically powerful US. The piece also elaborates on Gilbert Doctorow’s article ‘The coming existential threat: do we act in common or is it going to be every man for himself?’ of February 8, 2023.
The link is: https://geopolitiekincontext.wordpress.com/2023/02/16/de-oekrainecrisis-en-het-gedachtegoed-van-michael-parenti/
As always, please translate the original Dutch text in your preferred language by using the Google translate’ tool in the top right corner.

Posted by: Paul-Robert | Feb 16 2023 6:12 utc | 176

The UAF is making the RF fight for every square metre

🤚Heavy fighting continues in the village of Paraskovievka. Despite the fact that the “musicians” partially cut the road to Slavyansk and keep it under artillery fire, the enemy uses underground passages – the heritage of the USSR.

The offensive of the “Wagners” is coming from several directions, they are pressing from the liberated settlements.
Nationalists literally bite into their positions. As Yevgeny Prigozhin reported, house after house is being stormed, square meter by square meter. At the same time, the Ukrainian command is deploying 300 to 500 new fighters.
Paraskovievka, being the northern suburb of Bakhmut, is of strategic importance in the defense of the enemy in the Bakhmut direction.

https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/44805

Posted by: Down South | Feb 16 2023 6:57 utc | 177

# 176 very impassioned speech, good synopsis of empire & colonialism. 24 years later the situation has excelled, it’s getting out of hand. The arch of greed& control will run out of breath and drop. Any system that is conceived thru avarice and mismanagement doesn’t deserve to endure. Thanks for the link.

Posted by: Dingo | Feb 16 2023 7:16 utc | 178

Slavyangrad reported yesterday that Uaf is mass-distributing subpeonas in Kupyansk, where the some kind of RU offensive is going. The subpeonas are being received by everyone, even drug addicts.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/33443

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 16 2023 7:25 utc | 179

Re: redpilling your friends or family
It takes a normie roughly 10 years to become fully redpilled. It’s virtually impossible to accelerate this process. So……exercise the utmost tact and patience.
Start with the more easily accepted truths, and rather than aim to convince; aim to plant little seeds of doubt. Let the person come to his own conclusions. It takes time.
For example – I slowly red pilled a German business colleague over the past 14 months. She was a die hard Green Party fanatic. It only took the occaisional comment – a week ago She exclaimed “I’m never voting Green again, that Baerbock is a war monger”

Posted by: Exile | Feb 16 2023 7:34 utc | 180

Last night I dreamt that the Ukraganda had invented nonexistent Russian military units which they then claimed to have completely destroyed.
This is actually such an obvious propaganda move that I’m surprised the Ukranazis haven’t resorted to it already.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Feb 16 2023 2:29 utc | 157
The issue is the same as it has been all the time. The western press completely relies on UAF numbers and propaganda for every report and assumption they make. They ignore the forced mass mobilization including drug addicts. There were videos of 16 year old “Kindersoldaten” of Ukraine. Ukraine is completely dependent on Nato and the minute they withdraw any kind of support, it collapses. Not only front but as a society, because they sacrificed the future generational potential.
Nato fell into a trap of tying its own existence into a turd, which Russia is culling and reducing at a rate Nato can’t sustain.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 16 2023 7:44 utc | 181

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦💡@Rybar on the Current State and Bottlenecks of #Ukraine’s Power System⚡️
Despite ongoing strikes on UA’s power generation facilities, power outage times are decreasing. Street lighting has even reappeared in some cities.
Does it appear that the Russian attacks are not effective? It’s a bit more complicated than that.
🔹Power System Reserves:
The root of the current situation is the decline of #Ukraine’s economy. Its energy system was created to supply 50 mil people with many energy-intensive plants. In 30 years, many disappeared and population shrank by at least 20% from 1991 to 2021.
The result was a unused capacity: for example, at the largest NPP, #Zaporozhye, only 1 of the 6 units was operating when the SMO began. By the autumn of 2022, it had only become larger due to plant closures and reduced traffic and a reduced utility load due to runaway population.
▪️In Oct, the RF Forces began striking power distribution facilities and knocking out autotransformers (ATs), with emergency shutdown schedules appearing across the country due to the accumulation of damage. But these were temporary difficulties: most PSs have a load substantially less than the nominal load, allowing it to be transferred from the knocked-out AT to the remaining ones.
▪️It takes a huge amount of high-precision ammunition to destroy all the transformers. Therefore, the PPs themselves have already become the target of the RF Forces in winter:
➖#Kharkov TPP-5, Burshtyn and Krivoy Rog TPP; damaged turbines with generators,
➖#Pridneprovska TPP; boilers damaged
➖#Kiev TPP-6 – transformer of the power unit damaged
➖#Dnieper HPP – the turbine hall was damaged
➖#Ladyzhinskaya TPP – belt conveyor and gas pipelines damaged.
But the facilities did not sustain any critical damage. The reason was the same overcapacity: for example, at Krivoy Rog TPP only 2 out of 10 turbine generators – #1 and #2 worked. Turbine #5 was scheduled to be put into operation in spring, but it was struck on 10 Feb.
🔹Measures by UA Energy Companies:
The authorities were forced to draw on reserves: the Energy Ministry reported that in Feb all 9 units at the 3 remaining NPPs were operational. Each generates 1,000 MW, and the reserves mitigated consumption constraints.
Starting up the units required a considerable amount of time, so the process could only be completed by 2023. There were no other options: due to the loss of Donetsk anthracite, there was a coal shortage, so the mass reactivation of TPP turbines made no sense.
It would seem that the abrupt cessation of emergency shutdowns indicates that the crisis in UA’s energy system has been overcome. Except that everything seems to be happening exactly the opposite.
🔹What is the Vulnerability of UA’s Energy System?
The NPPs always operate in the mode of constant power generation, and the commissioning of new units substantially increases the base level of generation. It is imperative to increase consumption to ensure full utilisation of the generators.
That is why the emergence of outdoor lighting in cities is not a sign of power system stability, but a forced measure to maintain its stability. To maintain frequency during peak loads, capacity manoeuvring is necessary, which is currently the bottleneck in UA’s energy sector.
🔹What should be done?
On the one hand, it is possible to hit the general plant control points (GPU), which provide energy transit from NPPs to consumers. However, this requires a lot of ammunition.
A far more suitable option would be to knock out the turbine generators in the PPs, which provide the power maneuvering. Thus, when the electric locomotive traction is switched on, there will be nothing to compensate for consumption peaks: this will limit the use of trains and affect the logistics of the AFU. And morning and evening bursts of utility loads can even cause power unit shutdowns with cascading outages.
📌 Systematic strikes on TPP turbine halls will deprive UA’s power system stability. It must continue!

https://t.me/sitreports/4614

Posted by: Down South | Feb 16 2023 8:08 utc | 182

The western press completely relies on UAF numbers and propaganda for every report and assumption they make.
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 16 2023 7:44 utc | 181
No, all reports are written by nato, sent to Ukr to be published and then they go back to nato MSM as the source. If you pay attention you can detect which are written in UK or not. Yes, the most retarded ones come from Bojo.

Posted by: rk | Feb 16 2023 8:14 utc | 183

That is why the emergence of outdoor lighting in cities is not a sign of power system stability, but a forced measure to maintain its stability. To maintain frequency during peak loads, capacity manoeuvring is necessary, which is currently the bottleneck in UA’s energy sector
Thank you Deep South – a profound insights.
For those barflies who want a little more in the topic…research ‘power daily load Curve’ or ‘daily demand curve for electricity’

Posted by: Exile | Feb 16 2023 8:16 utc | 184

Especially if the goal, loss of all individual and national sovereignty is successful.

Posted by: MervRitchie | Feb 16 2023 2:34 utc | 158
But that is not the goal of the Russians and Chinese. They want a multipolar world order where the sovereignty of individual states is inviolable. It is the West that wants a rules based world order where sovereignty is abolished and is superseded by a supranational entity.
The Russians will not give up their sovereignty ever!
NATO and the RF are fighting for two very different outcomes. Polar opposite in fact.

Posted by: Down South | Feb 16 2023 8:17 utc | 185

Posted by: Dingo | Feb 16 2023 7:16 utc | 178
Thanks for yr comment. May I suggest you to post it under the article? Scroll all the way down.

Posted by: Paul-Robert | Feb 16 2023 8:54 utc | 186

“The conflict in Ukraine has already devastated European arsenals, in many capitals, defense ministers are informed that there is practically nothing left in stocks, warehouses and even “dumps” are empty.”
Financial Times
https://t.me/loordofwar/82865
That’s too bad. Sure US MIC corporations will make a lot of money from new contracts attempted to replenish pretty much every EU-Nato country, but that won’t help Ukraine. Giving thousands of tanks and armored vehicles and several hundred fighter jets of Soviet legacy clouded the judgement on the scale of this war. The consumption is such huge.
This is basically pulling the rug from under UAF, since there’s nothing to replace that.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 16 2023 9:02 utc | 187

Suffering a humiliating loss is O.K. A nation’s character like an individuals is measured not when things ere going well but when situations are going bad. That’s when serious knowledge is gained . The Soviet Union had a humiliating loss @ 1990,almost completely falling into the western influence, by the drunken sell-out Yeltsin. 30 years have past, much was learned in the meantime a new identity was created from the old. This should be giving consideration in the current conflict. Not to mention the heroic spirit during WW2 and the defeat of nazi Germany.

Posted by: Dingo | Feb 16 2023 9:02 utc | 188

The missile strikes also force the Ukrainians to position AD assets to help protect the power grid and reveal their location to follow on SEAD strikes. Col Macgregor thinks this element is now as important as the strikes on the energy system as the Russians complete their battlefield shaping operations for the up and coming offensive. He was also positing that the recent ground combat was to secure the three axis of advance, he believes they will use.
Interesting that the Russians are using drones as bait, just as the IAF used in the Bekaa Valley, a tactic apparently inventively adapted by Azerbaijan using An-2’s and belt-bound controls!

Posted by: Milites | Feb 16 2023 9:14 utc | 189

Posted by: Down South | Feb 16 2023 8:17 utc | 185
I don’t think ‘the West’ is a particularly accurate term anymore, in the sense that it represents any particular political philosophy. In fact, the tiny minority of ‘self-styled’ elites, who now rule this increasingly techno-feudal reset, eschew most of what the ‘West’ historically represented. There is increasing opposition to this soft-coup, but as many posters have experienced, their propaganda operation is formidable and, like any good revolutionaries, they took control of the centres of communication first.

Posted by: Milites | Feb 16 2023 9:35 utc | 190

The Russian army last night launched a massive attack on targets in Ukraine using kamikaze drones. It is reported that the explosions took place in Lvov, Poltava, Zaporozhye, Cherkasy, Odessa, Sumy, Mykolaiv and Dnepropetrovsk regions.
The air defense system of Ukraine for an hour tried to repel the attack of Russian missiles and kamikaze drones. At the same time, it is reported that most of the missiles turned out to be decoys. They were used to open the locations of Ukrainian air defense facilities.
At the same time, information is also confirmed about the defeat of Ukraine’s critical infrastructure facilities. In particular, Andriy Yermak, head of the country’s presidential office, said that today the missiles reached targets in the north and west of Ukraine, and infrastructure facilities in the Dnepropetrovsk and Kirovograd regions were also hit.
Yermak notes a change in the tactics of the Russian Armed Forces to missile strikes. For some time now, the Russian army, along with missiles, has been releasing a large number of false targets that divert the attention of air defense systems.
Russian military experts highlight several other features of today’s attack on Ukrainian military facilities.
First, they attacked at night. Secondly, the missile strike was preceded by yesterday’s aerial reconnaissance using drones and balloons, on which Ukrainian air defense systems were actively working, unmasking their positions and consuming ammunition. This made it possible to secure the cruise missiles during the night strike, since the Russian operators already knew the approximate locations of the Ukrainian air defense.

https://en.topcor.ru/32189-rossija-primenila-novuju-taktiku-raketnyh-atak-na-voennye-obekty-ukrainy.html
Interesting, they revealed location of AD systems, but whether attempts to destroy them immediately afterwards occurred is not told. They could have anti-radiation missile armed planes on standby during these strikes. Kh-58U should have 250km range which is “decent”.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 16 2023 9:39 utc | 191

“Civil infrastructure components in space provided to Ukraine for military purposes may become a legitimate target for retaliation, the Russian Foreign Ministry said”

Posted by: rk | Feb 16 2023 9:41 utc | 192

Once again, this is why the RF does not do shock and awe, why they are moving at a sustainable pace and not dropping thermobaric bombs on UAF positions in built up areas.

Information is received from the front that Musicians have made significant advances in Paraskoveyevka.
It is also reported that civilians are being actively evacuated from the central streets of the village to the liberated territory.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/33634

Posted by: Down South | Feb 16 2023 10:04 utc | 193

The other one I posted did not show up, so apologies if a duplicate appears

🇮🇹🇺🇦⚡️In recent days, Kiev has requested from Italy means of protection against nuclear, biological and chemical weapons – head of the Italian Ministry of Defense

https://t.me/intelslava/44596

Posted by: Down South | Feb 16 2023 10:14 utc | 194

RE Ukrainian language or a Russian dialect. I suggest it is a passé consideration, since we have now Ukraine ne it’s official language is Ukrainian. On the origin of nationalism and national languages, I would suggest an interesting book by Benedict Anderson, Irish political scientist: Imagined Communities: Reflections on the Origins and Spread of Nationalism.

Posted by: Lubica | Feb 16 2023 10:31 utc | 195

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 16 2023 9:39 utc | 191
The trouble with the traditional Western model of SEAD, wild weasel, ARM, then PGM’s is that the second part of the triad is now vulnerable to being shot down, not just fooled by switch on, switch of tactics. Low and slow, from multiple directions with drones, seems to work better than high and fast from one vector. Must have been quite a shock for NATO to realise they were in a fight with an opponent with serious counter-missile capabilities.
There are also possibly other reason why no immediate counter-strike was launched. It could be a beating exercise, flushing out AD units and tracking them to their new locations, before striking them. This is especially true if they are based in civilian areas (see Posted by: rk | Feb 16 2023 9:41 utc | 192 ) as a possible response to frustrate this Ukrainian counter-tactic of BUA relocation.
Drones have completely changed the face of warfare, changing battlefields into ever and ever closer simulacrum of a sand-table war game.

Posted by: Milites | Feb 16 2023 10:46 utc | 196

Seymour Hersh in an interview with the Berliner Zeitung:
Joe Biden blew up Nord Stream because he didn’t trust Germany
Abstract :
Mr. Hersh, please detail your findings. According to your source, what exactly happened, who was involved in the Nord Stream attack and what were the motives?
It was a story that begged to be told. In late September 2022, eight bombs were to be detonated near the island of Bornholm in the Baltic Sea, six of which went off in an area that is fairly flat. They destroyed three of the four major Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines. The Nord Stream 1 pipeline has provided Germany and other parts of Europe with very cheap natural gas for many years. And then it was blown up, as was Nord Stream 2, and the question was who did it and why. On February 7, 2022, just over two weeks before Russia invaded Ukraine, US President Joe Biden said at a White House press conference he held with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz that the US would stop Nord Stream.
Read more ( right click translate it yourself )
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https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/politik-gesellschaft/seymour-hersh-im-interview-joe-biden-sprengte-nord-stream-weil-er-deutschland-nicht-traut-li.317700

Posted by: mo3.1 | Feb 16 2023 10:59 utc | 197

https://t.me/intelslava/44544
A report on recent Geran / missile raids and evolving RF air strategy but with the following closing remark: “It is noteworthy that in recent days, Russian reconnaissance UAVs have begun flying over Ukraine en masse.”
Has anyone noticed other reports that make or support this claim? I have an interest in this general subject so I’d welcome any sources that might provide a better understanding of what’s going on.

Posted by: anon2020 | Feb 16 2023 11:01 utc | 198

Posted by: anon2020 | Feb 16 2023 11:01 utc | 198
A few weeks ago saw videos of Lithuania sending L-60 Bofors guns mounted on a wheeled platform to Ukraine. Yes, those developed in 1930s and uses predominantly during second world war AA installations.
However, it’s still not to be un-estimated, it can still be dangerous to lightly/non armored targets and infantry if left unchecked, but they were apparently intended as fixed protection for fixed infrastructure or other targets from drones.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 16 2023 11:12 utc | 199

Media is not all desolate in UK and the young, say under 30s, don’t watch bbc tv
They watch people like Russell Brand (6.2 million followers )
interviews Dave DeCamp from antiwar.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYAvwBhtnAg
i liked this comment-
‘Calling NATO a defensive alliance is like calling Ukraine a democracy’

Posted by: olaf22 | Feb 16 2023 11:14 utc | 200