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February 1, 2023
Open (Not Ukraine) Thread 2023-26
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Erdogan has repeated that Sweden’s NATO application will be turned down. Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 1 2023 16:10 utc | 1 @Opport Knocks | Feb 1 2023 16:10 utc | 1 Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 1 2023 16:21 utc | 2 Re: Dangerously radio-active 8mm x 6mm pellet which fell off a truck in outback Western Australia has been located. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 1 2023 16:31 utc | 3 Will the West’s Christian Colonial Cretins attack China? Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 1 2023 17:06 utc | 4 Interesting read from Helmer (and Olga Samofalova) on Russia’s internal issues and conflicts in moving oil and coal to the east for export to the expanding markets in China and India. Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 1 2023 17:10 utc | 5 Trying to reach The Sakar’s site, as well as Unz’s site and both seem to be offline at the moment. Posted by: drsmith | Feb 1 2023 17:27 utc | 6 There’s been much useful discussion, hereabouts lately, of the most misunderstood word in any language, originally coined by Raphael Lemkin and disputed ever since: genocide. I’ve acquired some interesting angles on that word via Ward Churchill’s excellent, groundbreaking A Little Matter of Genocide. (That title derived from a Russel Means epigram: “there’s a little matter of genocide that’s got to be taken into account right here at home.”)
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 1 2023 17:48 utc | 7 @ Opport Knocks | Feb 1 2023 17:10 utc | 5 Posted by: james | Feb 1 2023 17:49 utc | 8 @ Posted by: drsmith | Feb 1 2023 17:27 utc | 6 Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 1 2023 17:50 utc | 9 @ Norwegian | Feb 1 2023 16:21 utc | 2
Indeed. Now public & official. Talking of Swedish “neutrality” The Skwawkbox has an interesting story today about the efforts Sweden made, at the requests of Keir Starmer’s Prosecution Service to destroy files in the Assange case. Posted by: bevin | Feb 1 2023 18:44 utc | 12 Saker is available in this corner of the imperial homeland (10:45 PST). Posted by: robjira | Feb 1 2023 18:46 utc | 13 Thanks for the links @ 5 and 8, Posted by: Lex | Feb 1 2023 19:23 utc | 14 MoonOfAlabama mentioned:
For example, Mother Jones would write about “Trump flash mobs” created by Russian bots. Or that Devin Nunes or Tulsi Gabbard were being promoted by Russia. H68 was a “research institute,” and when you have an ex-FBI agent that sounds impressive in leftist circles. Or they’d get some other former FBI/NSA/CIA guy to say “sure,” to boost a Hamilton 68 claim. Posted by: Tenet | Feb 1 2023 19:41 utc | 15 Looks like Indians are more for Kiev than for Moscow. Sushant Singh wrote about the superficiality of this ‘alliance’. Posted by: Akito | Feb 1 2023 20:40 utc | 16 Aleph_Null | Feb 1 2023 17:48 utc | 7
The most recent example of a genocide discussion takes place in Brazil. Posted by: OttoE | Feb 1 2023 21:21 utc | 17 Russia is about 2% of the world’s economy, while Japan is 3%, EU is 14% and USA is 15%. Russia overestimes its economic weight. Posted by: Quryas | Feb 1 2023 21:31 utc | 18 The Cradle has a very informative article dealing with the state of Iraq’s development, “Iraq’s Silk Road: Port and canal project set to transform Baghdad’s geopolitical clout”, that I highly suggest. Clearly, Iraq is still enmeshed in the snare remaining from all its encounters with the Outlaw US Empire and is still unstable politically. The plans the article describes are bold and potentially transformative, but many basic issues must be solved first that the article mostly mentions–the most important issue is the need to eject the Outlaw US Empire form the region as no in-depth development can occur with it there. In many respects, Libya shares the same issues. Tenet@15 Posted by: bevin | Feb 1 2023 22:19 utc | 20
Quryas Posted by: Derek Henry | Feb 1 2023 22:30 utc | 22 according to a comment at Craig Murray (Secret Power), Sweden is blocking a joint investigation into the Nordstream pipeline sabotage, along with Germany and Denmark. whatever, we know who the poodlemaster is, whichever poodles peformed the trick. Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 1 2023 22:34 utc | 23 @ drsmith | Feb 1 2023 17:27 utc | 6 Posted by: Alfa Panda | Feb 1 2023 22:42 utc | 24 The US went from needing 99% of the people working to grow our food to less than 1%, and manufacturing jobs are down to only 7% of the labour force. And yet the remaining 90% of us are not all unemployed, as jobs have proliferated in the service sector, where most of those jobs are now considered to be better jobs than the lost agricultural and manufacturing jobs. Posted by: Derek Henry | Feb 1 2023 22:51 utc | 25 Considering how toxic Western countries became against Russians like LCI had outright called for an ethnic cleansing in Crimea, I wonder if Russians, who would want to leave Russia, will immigrate in less hostile countries like United Arab Emirates and Malaysia instead of European countries. Posted by: Ewrif | Feb 1 2023 22:51 utc | 26 Derek Henry @26– @ OttoE | Feb 1 2023 21:21 utc | 17
This business about intent wrecks the whole structure, legally. Then again, it’s meant to do that — to let the main genocidal culprits off the hook, don’t you know. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 1 2023 22:57 utc | 28 Stoltenberg has spoken in Japan and Global Times has produced an editorial in response, “Why Stoltenberg’s speech was so blatant in Tokyo”. Here are the opening paragraphs:
Like Germany, Japan is captured and lacks sovereignty. Only its people can alter the situation, which is the same formula for Europe. IMO, NATO will likely last through the 2030s, although it will likely shrink to just the Outlaw US Empire, Canada and UK, and perhaps Denmark and Netherlands. Once Russia establishes its new security arrangements, it will become clear there’s no longer any need for NATO within Europe. But as with its evil twin the EU, it will take time for its complete demise. What is so revealing about debates over military spending. When the chips are down the numbers become irrelevant. Not one government minister anywhere has ever said that they can’t bomb Baghdad, Bazra or the Balkans because they don’t have the budget. Posted by: Derek Henry | Feb 1 2023 23:10 utc | 30 A meme my wife shared: Gas prices are rising again because China stopped its Covid crackdown. Of course, that’s 100% absurd. China has noted it and this op/ed is a result, “Blaming China’s economic recovery for global inflation? More nonsense from US media”:
And of course, China’s Spring Festival is a smashing success. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 1 2023 17:06 utc | 4 Posted by: Blissex | Feb 1 2023 23:29 utc | 32 My last note today about China: Within this decade, China, Russia and India as well as other nations will cease being technologically dependent on the West, “Top meeting urges expedited establishment of new pattern of development”:
The actions by the Outlaw US Empire and its vassals that began decades ago to thwart development within the Global South has finally blown-back onto their economies as becoming sovereign in all areas is now the goal of all Global South nations and is a Movement that will not be beaten back again as it was in the 1950-60s when it was first attempted. Recall that nobody holds a patent on Nature’s Secrets; they can be discovered by anyone and used. The Global South holds a big advantage over the West in STEM grads and better economic models to follow to promote that advantage. Posted by: Derek Henry | Feb 1 2023 23:10 utc | 31 Posted by: Blissex | Feb 1 2023 23:48 utc | 34 Karlof1 Posted by: Derek Henry | Feb 1 2023 23:56 utc | 35 Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 1 2023 22:07 utc | 20 Posted by: laguerre | Feb 2 2023 0:06 utc | 36 @Aleph_Null | Feb 1 2023 22:57 utc | 29
Posted by: OttoE | Feb 2 2023 0:20 utc | 37 Blissex, Posted by: Derek Henry | Feb 2 2023 0:23 utc | 38 Blissex, Posted by: Derek Henry | Feb 2 2023 0:37 utc | 39 Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 1 2023 23:22 utc | 32 Posted by: Walt | Feb 2 2023 0:48 utc | 40 The level of paranoia within the Outlaw US Empire is closing in on insane, “Pentagon Claims Proposed Chinese-Owned Mill by North Dakota Air Base Poses ‘Significant Threat’”, which as we learn is a corn mill. The people of the town that were looking forward to the very much needed employment will continue to collect welfare or worse. That a corn mill presents a threat to national security is a titanic howler reminding me of Dr. Strangelove. Walt @41– @ Derek Henry Posted by: james | Feb 2 2023 1:09 utc | 43 RT Arabic interviewed FM Lavrov, the topic being Algeria, which I found unusual. The information provided an excellent insight into the state of Russian-Algerian relations and its chances of joining BRICS as you’ll soon discover:
The reasons Lavrov cites for the downfall of the Empire’s globalization project are very clear and as he noted apply to most nations. When the reckoning is done decades from now, historians will conclude that the Outlaw US Empire caused its own downfall, although they might not agree with my reason–Pleonexia: Rome’s disease. Major African bloc refuses to follow Outlaw US Empire diktat, “African nations resist US by taking non-aligned stance in conflicts outside continent: The summit in Windhoek was attended by the heads of state and government of Zambia, Lesotho, Namibia, Eswatini, and South Africa, as well as relevant ministers from the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and Mozambique.”
The continuing efforts at extraterritoriality will not accomplish what Congress envisions and will only serve to push other nations further away–something they are clearly too blind to see. Note the lockstep in the vote. Almost the entire Congress is Imperialist yet imagine themselves to be democratic. Azerbiajan continues to pose problems:
I remain convinced that the Empire is behind Azeri behavior, and I trust Iran far more. The Empire is in deep dire straits and is pulling every string to try and avert disaster for itself. That’s THE point of everything it’s doing. Concerning the increased escalation in NATO’s war against Russia, AND US generals statements of the coming war with CHINA! Posted by: Marty | Feb 2 2023 2:22 utc | 47 @ Akito | Feb 1 2023 20:40 utc | 16
Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 2 2023 2:55 utc | 48 I think nobody notices an unexpected and unprecedencet removal of Vietnamese president. Posted by: Martin | Feb 2 2023 2:59 utc | 49 @ karlof1 | Feb 2 2023 1:51 utc | 45 Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 2 2023 3:11 utc | 50 @ karlof1 | Feb 2 2023 1:51 utc | 45 Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 2 2023 3:11 utc | 51 @ karlof1 | Feb 2 2023 0:50 utc | 42 Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 2 2023 3:19 utc | 52 @ karlof1 | Feb 2 2023 0:50 utc | 42 Posted by: John Kennard | Feb 2 2023 3:23 utc | 53 Just to add to the humor about Chinese, let’s spread the joy – – Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 2 2023 3:25 utc | 54 @ Martin | Feb 2 2023 2:59 utc | 50 Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 2 2023 3:37 utc | 55 Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 2 2023 3:19 utc | 53
Fairness and justice eh? But only “an image”. Posted by: Walt | Feb 2 2023 4:20 utc | 56 @Walt | Feb 2 2023 4:20 utc | 57 Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 2 2023 4:35 utc | 57 BBC Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 2 2023 4:52 utc | 58 Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 2 2023 4:52 utc | 59 Posted by: Walt | Feb 2 2023 5:20 utc | 59 I have a question. May be I am uninformed but a question shouldn´t be the problem: Posted by: AG | Feb 2 2023 5:28 utc | 60 The US has secured access to four additional military bases in the Philippines . . .here . . .image here Posted by: K | Feb 2 2023 6:27 utc | 61 But may be I overlook some issues. Posted by: K | Feb 2 2023 6:30 utc | 62 @ Don Bacon | Feb 2 2023 4:52 utc | 59 Sheeet! even this quiet corner of the bar appears to be gathering weird attention seekers throwing out all sorts of baited hooks in the hope they’ll pull in some fish who will acknowledge their presence. Posted by: Debsisdead | Feb 2 2023 8:46 utc | 64 karlof1 | Feb 2 2023 1:51 utc | 45 karlof1 | Feb 2 2023 1:51 utc | 45 Posted by: Paco | Feb 2 2023 9:43 utc | 66 I was just looking at my World map, and – I’m in Canadia – particularly Alaska. And remembering something about Russia leasing Alaska to the US for 99 years, over 100 years ago. And did a little search. Posted by: Featherless | Feb 2 2023 11:44 utc | 67 @ Derek Henry Posted by: Featherless | Feb 2 2023 12:12 utc | 68 they have picked on the nicest spot on the west coast, the sheltered harbour of Port Barton, to ruin. Well I’ll be back there in a few months, we’ll soon find out.
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Tip of an iceberg Posted by: denk | Feb 2 2023 13:26 utc | 69 Posted by: Debsisdead | Feb 2 2023 8:46 utc | 65 Posted by: denk | Feb 2 2023 13:30 utc | 70 @ Walt | Feb 2 2023 5:20 utc | 60
Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 2 2023 13:32 utc | 71 re: Philippines Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 2 2023 13:37 utc | 72 Jimmy Dore to fucker carlson
courtesy REPORT ON CHINA. Posted by: denk | Feb 2 2023 14:08 utc | 73 It’s Lavrov vs. Blinken on Syria settlement. Guess who will prevail. Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 2 2023 14:24 utc | 74 @ Posted by: Derek Henry | Feb 2 2023 0:37 utc | 40 Posted by: Opport Knocks | Feb 2 2023 14:49 utc | 75 Be alert…….AI is expanding at a rapid pace. Do we really want to go there? Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 2 2023 14:52 utc | 76 Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 1 2023 23:44 utc | 34 Posted by: C Khosta y Alzamendi | Feb 2 2023 15:16 utc | 77 Posted by: denk | Feb 2 2023 13:30 utc | 71 Posted by: morongobill | Feb 2 2023 15:35 utc | 78 Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov seems to be on a roll today. Several TASS articles quoting him seemed worth mention here. The first (going by TASS’s article timestamp), Final solution to the Russian question? German politicians eye revival of Fascism — Lavrov, includes the following:
Posted by: David Levin | Feb 2 2023 15:36 utc | 79 A second nugget from Lavrov, US authorities try to suppress societal split using authoritarian methods — Lavrov, includes the following:
Posted by: David Levin | Feb 2 2023 15:40 utc | 80 Not only Lavrov, Putin’s address during Stalingrad’s aniversary, while the European US servants visit Kiev promissing more sanctions. Germany is asking for it, and it might get it, again. Posted by: Paco | Feb 2 2023 15:40 utc | 81 The third piece in what I deemed today’s Lavrov sampler, Quality of Russia-China relations superior to classic military alliances — Lavrov, contains the following (bold added):
Posted by: David Levin | Feb 2 2023 15:45 utc | 82 The fourth and last passage from Lavrov in my micro-series, from Western politicians deserve peace prize if they promote equality of countries — Lavrov, includes the following:
Posted by: David Levin | Feb 2 2023 15:58 utc | 83 Posted by: morongobill | Feb 2 2023 15:35 utc | 79 Posted by: denk | Feb 2 2023 16:09 utc | 84 Thanks for the many replies and additions. Yes, very disappointed but not at all surprised by Marcos as I watched what his father did.
China’s will need to become inventive in finding ways to rid itself of its dollar debt holdings for they won’t be allowed to do anything within the Empire on the grounds of national security. Further trouble, “US’ illegal confiscation of Xinjiang products destabilizes global supply chain, will ultimately harm itself”:
The pukes in Washington and fucking insane. IMO, China ought to suspend all exports to the Outlaw US Empire for 90 days to teach it a lesson about its degree of geoeconomic dependence on China. Yes, I know China’s not politically ready to take that step, but it ought to make a public statement that it’s thinking about such a measure. The Lavrov interview transcript with Channel 24 and RIA Novosti is now ready. I’ve only read a few highlights provided by this TASS review. I’ll be posting the entire transcript to my VK. @ karlof1 | Feb 2 2023 17:16 utc | 87 What’s happening is NEVER the fault of the West; it’s always somebody else’s fault. Posted by: Nobody | Feb 2 2023 18:50 utc | 90 I want to make one comment that explains the current situation in the U.S. and in Ukraine and in the world: Posted by: Indrek Pringi | Feb 2 2023 19:06 utc | 91 Interesting. Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Feb 2 2023 19:38 utc | 92 Speculation suggests that this current geostrategic escapade is not going to end in the way that some of the more partisan, vociferous constituents think it is going to end. Certain individuals will certainly not welcome such an observation and the conclusion it portends, but both history and the current reality seems to suggest such an outcome, i.e., a political/economic status quo that reinforces both the dominant economic mythology and a hierarchical structure that substantially benefits both monied cliques and cartels. In other words, there appears to be obvious divergences, skewing, and blurred lines between the objectives of the professional political class and the professional economic monied class. Or, it seems to be that for some individuals patriotism, along with any ethical or moral considerations, apparently ends where the bank account and private profit begins. Because, it has already been pointed out that: Posted by: deliriumtremens | Feb 2 2023 21:05 utc | 93 Celiac Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 2 2023 21:33 utc | 94 Oppertunity knocks Posted by: Derek Henry | Feb 2 2023 21:57 utc | 95 Judge John T Dorsey is being watched …
And in the second report…
I guess there might be a leak here and there soon 🙂 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 2 2023 21:59 utc | 96 @karlof1 | Feb 2 2023 17:16 utc | 88
Even though President Xi keeps saying to get ready to fight (鬥爭), a lot of people in Chinese government, academia, and “think tanks” are either “afraid” to confront amerikkkans or just amerikkkans-in-spirits. These people don’t think China has a chance to fight amerikkkans and it will be better for China to “surrender” sooner rather than later. When Trump started the trade war, a lot of such people said China should yield. IMHO, these people understand neither their own Chinese culture nor the true nature of the anglo-saxon (or to a wider extent the west). So they become half-here-and-half-there with delusional thinking that all Chinese things are inferior and all amerikkkans are good/superior. So it may be some sort of struggle within China to clear these people out of the way before dealing with amerkkkans. Posted by: LuRenJia | Feb 2 2023 23:06 utc | 97 @98 LuRenJia | Feb 2 2023 23:06 utc – “some sort of struggle within China to clear these people out of the way before dealing with amerkkkans” Posted by: Grieved | Feb 2 2023 23:41 utc | 98 karlof1 @ 88
It’s not unwarranted punishment or gangster economics, it’s bait, provocation-escalation, in search of a casus belli, part of the manufacturing consent for war with China just like the step by step sanctions and Russophobia since 1997 was the manufacturing consent for war with Russia. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Feb 3 2023 0:11 utc | 99 Much quieter today here in the backroom than on the UKR discussion out in the bar, ugly crowd came in, bridge and tunnel weekend creeps. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Feb 3 2023 0:18 utc | 100 |
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