Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
January 4, 2023
Ukraine – The Big Push To End The War

Over Christmas I had a short talk with a relative about the war in Ukraine. He asked me who would win and was astonished when I said: "Ukraine has zero chance to win." That person reads some German mainstream news sites and watches the public TV networks. With those sources of 'information' he was made to believe that Ukraine was winning the war.

One may excuse that with him never having been in a military and not being politically engaged. But still there are some basic numbers that let one conclude from the beginning that Russia, the much bigger, richer and more industrialized country, had clearly all advantages. My relative  obviously never had had that thought.

The 'western' propaganda is still quite strong. However, as I pointed out in March last year propaganda does not change a war and lies do not win it. Its believability is shrinking.

Former Lt.Col. Alex Vershinin, who in June pointed out that industrial warfare is back and the 'West' was not ready to wage it, has a new recommendable piece out which analyses the tactics on both sides, looks ahead and concludes that Russia will almost certainly win the war:

Wars of attrition are won through careful husbandry of one’s own resources while destroying the enemy’s. Russia entered the war with vast materiel superiority and a greater industrial base to sustain and replace losses. They have carefully preserved their resources, withdrawing every time the tactical situation turned against them. Ukraine started the war with a smaller resource pool and relied on the Western coalition to sustain its war effort. This dependency pressured Ukraine into a series of tactically successful offensives, which consumed strategic resources that Ukraine will struggle to replace in full, in my view. The real question isn’t whether Ukraine can regain all its territory, but whether it can inflict sufficient losses on Russian mobilized reservists to undermine Russia’s domestic unity, forcing it to the negotiation table on Ukrainian terms, or will Russian’ attrition strategy work to annex an even larger portion of Ukraine.

Russian domestic unity has only grown over the war. As Gilbert Doctorow points out wars make nations. The war does not only unite certain nationalistic parts of Ukraine who still dream of retaking Crimea. It also unites all of Russia. Unlike Ukraine Russia will be strengthened by it.

Casualties are expected in wars and the Russians, with their steady remembrance of the second world war as their Great Patriotic War, know this well. Screw ups also happen and at times some bad leadership decisions puts people into the wrong place where the enemy can and will kill them. That is what happened in Makeyevka (Donetsk) on New Years day 2 minutes after midnight. Some 100 Russian reservists died. The Russian leadership pointed out that they were killed by U.S. HIMARS missiles. The former Indian diplomat M. K. Bhadrakumar judges that this was a U.S. escalation which will likely receive a response:

The intelligence inputs in real time show direct American participation in the horrific operation targeting the Russian conscripts’ New Year party just when the toasts began. Of course, whipping up public sentiments in Russia against Putin is a core American objective in the war.

We are entering a grey zone. Expect “surgical strikes” by the Russian forces, too. After all, at some point soon enough, it will emerge that what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Some retaliation has already happened. Yesterday the Russian Defense Ministry reported that over 130 foreign mercenaries were killed in attacks on their bases near Maslyakovka and Kramatorsk. Those Polish soldiers are now gone. The Russian military also continues its quite successful counter-artillery campaign:

Missile and air strikes launched at a hardware concentration near Druzhkovka railway station (Donetsk People's Republic) have resulted in the elimination of:

  • two launching ramps for U.S.-manufactured HIMARS multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS);
  • four armoured fighting vehicles for Czech-manufactured RM-70 Vampire MLRS;
  • over 800 rockets for MLRS;
  • six motor vehicles, and up to 120 Ukrainian personnel.

Within the counterbattery warfare, two launching ramps for U.S.-manufactured HIMARS MLRS, that were used for shelling settlements of the Donetsk People's Republic, have been detected and destroyed near Kramatorsk.

Three U.S.-manufactured M-777 artillery systems have been destroyed at their firing positions near Artyomovsk (Donetsk People's Republic), and Chervonaya Dibrova (Lugansk People's Republic).

Two Ukrainian fighting vehicles for Grad MLRS have been destroyed near Volchansk (Kharkov region) and Serebryanka (Donetsk People's Republic).

Two D-30 howitzers have been destroyed near Kamenskoye and Gulyaypole (Zaporozhye region).

Those are four HIMARS, three M-777, some Czech 'aid', 800 HIMARS missiles and some Ukrainian guns that were lost in just one day. That was probably more than the 'West' can deliver over the next months.

Even the New York Times notes that Russia is exhausting the Ukraine as well as its western support by simply throwing cheap stuff at it:

The Iranian-made Shahed-136 drones that Moscow has increasingly been relying on since October are relatively uncomplicated devices and fairly cheap, while the array of weapons used to shoot them out of the sky can be much pricier, according to experts. The self-destructing drones can cost as little as $20,000 to produce, while the cost of firing a surface-to-air missile can range from $140,000 for a Soviet-era S-300 to $500,000 for a missile from an American NASAMS.

This only confirms the point Alex Vershinin was making. Russia has cared for its resources while the Ukraine, and NATO, have wasted their stuff mostly in senseless frontal campaigns against well protected Russian troops.

Yves Smith of Naked Capitalism points out that Vershinin has left out the economic side of the war where the picture is as bad for Ukraine as it is on the ground:

Ukraine is dependent on the West to fund its government, giving new meaning to the expression “client state”. Ukraine’s GDP contraction is estimated to be on the order of 35-40% for 2022. Ukraine in November projected its 2023 budget deficit to be $38 billion. Mind you, that is for essential services and is likely to underestimate the cost and knock-on effects of dealing with Russia’s attacks on its electrical grid. Again, before the grid strikes, the IMF had estimated Ukraine’s budget needs at $3 to $4 billion a month. It’s an easy bet that that $38 billion funding gap will easily come in at more than $50 billion.

And paying for teachers’ salaries, pensions, road repair, hospitals, are not the sort of thing that enriches the military-industrial complex. This is a huge amount for the West. Euronews, in discussing the then estimated $38 billion hole, strongly hinted Ukraine would come up short: …

Yves Smith also points out that, as we predicted in March, the pro-Ukraine propaganda is not really fixing the war:

Last and not at all least, the success of Ukraine propaganda seems to be falling despite the media and politicians doing their best to create the impression otherwise. Lambert and I were both very much surprised to read that a recent poll of likely US voters (as in presumably politically engaged) found fewer than 1/3 thought Ukraine was winning the war.

Lastly to find out who will win this war we can point to the mid December interview the Ukrainian war leader General Valery Zaluzhny gave to the Economist.:

General Zaluzhny, who is raising a new army corps, reels off a wishlist. “I know that I can beat this enemy,” he says. “But I need resources. I need 300 tanks, 600-700 IFVs [infantry fighting vehicles], 500 Howitzers.” The incremental arsenal he is seeking is bigger than the total armoured forces of most European armies.

What Zaluzhny really says is that the war is lost if he does not get those resources. He knows well that is he will not receive them.

So how will Russia proceed towards the end game?

Dima of the Military Summary Channel discussed yesterday how two big moves, one up from the Mariupol area and one down west of Kharkiv, can cut all railroad lines that connect west Ukraine with the eastern frontline where some 80+% of the Ukrainian army is now deployed.

I agree that the move from the south will happen but I am less sure about the northern branch.


bigger

The Ukrainian army, just like the Russian one, depends on railroads for medium and long range transport. Neither has enough trucks to move the big amount of supplies that are needed to support the war.

Ukrainian railways

Sourcebigger

To be able to supply its forces any Russian move must follow the rail lines and create some safety corridor left and right of them. Some railways will be damaged by fighting but Russia has special railroad regiments that are trained and equipped to do repairs under war conditions. The move from the south would go to Pavlovgrad (Pavlovhrad) while the move from the north would pass Kharkiv in the west and aim at Lozova. When both are taken the Ukrainian army at the eastern front will be completely cut off from the rest of Ukraine and, without supplies, will have to surrender or die.

Both are big 200 kilometer (120 miles) long moves that require significant amounts of forces. But after its mobilization and with volunteers Russia has 350,000 additional forces it can move in. 75 to 100,000 are sufficient for each push while the rest can keep the Ukrainian troops in the east very busy and fixed in their position.

Then comes the question of when.

Due to currently warmer than normal weather the ground in Ukraine is not yet frozen and the mud will return in March and April. That gives only a two months window to move forward. If I were the Russian commander I would probably wait and use the six dry months during the summer. But there are other criteria, like politics and economics, that will come into play and which may require an earlier move.

If the plan works the war will largely be over. Russian troops will be free to move anywhere in Ukraine with only little resistance. A move to retake Kherson and Odessa will then be a rather easy and short affair.

The big question is how the U.S. will respond. If the Ukraine falls the U.S. and NATO will have lost their war against Russia. That will cause serious political damage.

Thomas H. Lipscomb writes that war will be lost because it was badly planned and in a way that could never have changed its direction:

American military planning was once world class. But who would plan a proxy war against Russia, one of the acknowledged masters of artillery with far better air defense technology than any in the West, and then equip our puppet Ukraine with inferior weapons and only enough ammunition to last six months? And surely American planners couldn’t help knowing that there was no longer a manufacturing base for resupply, and NATO warehouses were practically empty?

This will have wide ranging consequences:

[T]he United States current leadership is a bunch of total idiots, blinded by ideology, arrogance and illusions of pursuing a “rule-based” global hegemony, an opportunity long passed, as our performance in this proxy war shows. The United States may have won the Cold War but it lost the peace. Its strategic thinking and its military is obsolete and configuration of both forces and equipment is based on assumptions from the past millennium. The battle for a Great Global Reset under a unipolar American hegemony has been lost as well. The World Economic Forum is now about as relevant as the Holy Roman Empire. All they can continue to do is terrorize the increasingly authoritarian states of the West with asinine policy proposals.

The attempt to destroy Russia prodded it to a burst of brilliant diplomacy and leadership by Putin and his team that has quietly established that the rest of the world prefers sovereignty and a multi-polar world. The post Cold War “Pox Americana” as Larry Johnson has called it, is over. Historians of the future will study this period of history with fascination. Few times in history has such immense change happened so fast.

The effect of losing the war will be noticed in global and domestic politics. 'Western' global standing will be degraded and the leadership of the war party will receive some well deserved bashing.

But will the U.S. let that happen? Can it allow itself to lose this war? Or will it escalate? Even when that is likely to only worsen its situation?

I have no idea yet how and who in Washington will decide on those questions.

Comments

@fanto | Jan 5 2023 2:04 utc | #142 and @aristodemos | Jan 5 2023 5:53 utc | #192
Thanks for your thoughts. Agree that Germany is an occupied country without any agency. The average German citizen is NOT aware of this fact, by design. Russia has valuable resources that any capitalist would love to plunder, which largely explains the current dismal state of affairs. German media is (still) highly concentrated and easily steerable via incentivizing those that value their career over truth and threatening/cancelling those that do not. Realize that the US spends more on subversion (they call it ‘The Intelligence Community’, hilariously it is one of the ‘best places to work’ in the US) than any other country. I call it mind control. And it works very, very well. Witness Europe’s self-destructing behavior, largely unopposed by its own citizens.
Instructive Example: Remember the Nord Stream Pipeline sabotage? An 11 billion US$ German-Russian project sabotaged by Germany ‘friends’ GB and US. WITHOUT ANY REPERCUSSIONS. All you need to know to gauge Germany’s role in international affairs.

Posted by: NewJerseyJoe | Jan 5 2023 15:52 utc | 301

LOL this blogpost did not age well,
Russia begs for ceasefire!
Putin announces Christmas truce
The cessation of hostilities in Ukraine is to last from noon on Friday until midnight on Saturday, the Kremlin has announced
https://swentr.site/russia/569439-russia-putin-truce-christmas/
Another proof how weak Russia is.

Posted by: 2anon | Jan 5 2023 15:53 utc | 302

Fnord73: Somehow your concern for “the poor homos” just doesn’t ring true. Hmm, wonder why.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 5 2023 15:53 utc | 303

There’s a very real possibility that that all the tactical/operational prognostication and discussion of what should be done is moot. A common charge leveled against general staffs the world over and throughout history is that they prepare for the last war, not the next war. It’s reasonable to conclude that the great battles of WWII and maneuver warfare have been rendered obsolete to a large degree, primarily by SIGNIT, satellites and drones. Russia got away with it early on in Ukraine because the US wasn’t fully geared up and spending massive resources to surveil Ukraine. Some success can be had at the tactical level of light infantry and small groups but not for the nation dividing type pincer movements many conflict watchers expect.
The talk of ground freezing is also getting tiring, because it mostly seems to be coming from people who don’t know how ground freezes. A week or two of below freezing temperatures doesn’t freeze ground to any significant depth. It’s been below freezing here for almost two months and the frost line is 6″, which is not enough to support 40+ ton tanks (my area regularly sees winter frost lines of 3′ deep). How and when ground freezes to depth is both weather related and soil profile related. Early snow cover will retard soil freezing because it acts as an insulator. Deep top soil may freeze much slower than rocky or sandy soil because it has better structure which also acts as an insulator. And again, “frozen” to a few inches in depth is not the same as frozen to feet. Ground that appears frozen based on walking on it or even driving a 2 ton car on it is not the same as frozen to a depth that supports heavy equipment.

Posted by: Lex | Jan 5 2023 15:56 utc | 304

Looking at the MoD reports, they seem to be claiming a lot of destruction of Ukr. artillery and air defenses recently. Destruction of tanks seems to have dwindled as Ukr. may have run out of them. Lots of pickup trucks being destroyed – another sign they are running out of anything to throw at Russians.
The Ukr. apologists may be deceiving themselves by failing to accept a degree of patient grinding warfare that is historically unusual. Very Fabian in character.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 5 2023 15:58 utc | 305

@303. It’s propaganda warfare designed to show similarity between Ukrainians and Russians.
Not bad actually, and let’s supplies be brought in. I’d expect a big missle attack after.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jan 5 2023 15:58 utc | 306

Muthuacker | Jan 5 2023 2:19 utc | 143
______
Nonsense. See definitive rebuttal
@karlof1 | Jan 5 2023 0:30 utc | 110

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jan 5 2023 16:09 utc | 307

Some time before the end of the war in Afghanistan, I got to meet an air force pilot who had carried out operations in Afghanistan against the Taliban. He informed me that the average lifespan of a Taliban fighter was a matter of months. The US excelled in killing Taliban fighters, but in 2021, the US left Afghanistan, and the Taliban waltzed into Kabul.
The collective resolve to win matters more than body counts.

Posted by: fnord | Jan 5 2023 16:09 utc | 308

@ Lone Druid at 297
The US and its oligarchic elite retains the benefit of being able to buy real goods produced by the rest of the world through hard work in return for US Dollars produced by the push of a button at the Fed only because
A: It’s been easier for the rest of the world to keep using the established reserve currency system then its been to build a new system, and
B: Because the US military is used to destroy small countries like Iraq and Libya that try to move away from the US dominated financial system.
But the Ukraine war is pushing large parts of the world like India and the Arab world towards dedollarization.
And that fact is much more relevant to the future of the US Empire than how many dollars the US elite piles up in their bank accounts at the expense of the average US citizen.
@ David F at 298
No, I wasn’t “Fnord”. I stopped posting on this site for a while for a number of reasons, but the annoying proliferation of “Fnord’s” was a factor.
I, the Real Fnord13, am not connected to Fnord73 or any other Fnord.

Posted by: The Real Fnord13 | Jan 5 2023 16:12 utc | 309

rk | Jan 5 2023 14:38 utc | 289
All good points but really gets me (and it probably should not) is the outright lying. Back even as recently as the 911 days there was some truth but a good spin was added. Today it’s outright lying. There is no facts to anything being shat out.

Posted by: Peter Kurten | Jan 5 2023 16:13 utc | 310

@shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 8:15 utc | #208
The Baltic States’ hostility and belligerence towards Russia is hard to comprehend. Reading Putin’s speeches through the years and observing Russian actions, there seems to be no objective reason for the Baltic’s weird Russophobia. Quite the contrary. It may well be that Baltics are a bastion of ideological nationalism, similar to that stoked in 1930’s Germany. Don’t know enough about these places to judge. But they behave in a weird way.
On the bigger question “Where will it all end?”, maybe we humans as a species are no good and will go away as have almost all. If we do not learn to cooperate not just within civil society but internationally, then we surely are doomed. Unfortunately the current lizard brains in charge of US foreign policy may prevail and humans are set for a big population reduction. The future will tell.

Posted by: NewJerseyJoe | Jan 5 2023 16:17 utc | 311

reply to 309
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/afghan
The US didn’t kill that many Taliban. The fallacy in comparing Afghans to Ukraine is the sad, minimum level of becoming Taliban – little food or medical care, no jobs, nearly non existent training. Pushing Ukraine down to the level of Afghanistan would be mind blowing in any nation anywhere near Europe.
If that’s the outcome of Ukraine, Russia would be very happy and secure. As it is, Ukraine is a dying nation. It couldn’t sustain its population and it has gotten far worse in 2022.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 5 2023 16:20 utc | 312

Posted by: The Real Fnord13 | Jan 5 2023 16:12 utc | 310
Even more confusing now, as the post right above you is from “fnord” (I accidently typed Fnord instead of fnord in the post you responded to).
I have been reading here for years and I never saw anything related to fnord until the last few months or so, then suddenly there are 3-5 of them.
Interesting.
Will the real, original fnord please stand up? 🙂

Posted by: David F | Jan 5 2023 16:25 utc | 313

Zely rejected the ceasefire. Not that anyone expected anything else.

Posted by: rk | Jan 5 2023 16:28 utc | 314

what’s a fnord anyway

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 5 2023 16:32 utc | 315

The next three months rounding out the first year of war should be very interesting. If, as US pundits are saying, there could be anther tooth breaking Ukrainian Offensive into the Melitopol area – the center of “EUkrainian partisan resistance” in the Russian Donbass.
It remains to be seen who has the better celebration planned?

Posted by: Kevin Quinn | Jan 5 2023 16:34 utc | 316

@ Posted by: David F | Jan 5 2023 16:25 utc | 314
I started using the moniker before I knew of any others. I think we’re all just Robert Anton Wilson fans. I’ve always thought it true to the spirit of RAW and discordianism that there are multiple people using the same moniker, especially if we all have conflicting viewpoints, so I’ve done my part to enable the confusion.

Posted by: fnord | Jan 5 2023 16:35 utc | 317

If you insist on Central America, look at Costa Rica. Supposedly one of the safest countries in Central America.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jan 5 2023 0:59 utc | 122

Both Panama and Costa Rica are US protectorates. Costa Rica more so since they have no military and are home to the US fruit producing conglomerates. We looked at it as a possible place to early retire and operate a B&B, but decided to pass.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 5 2023 16:52 utc | 318

Read Pricipa Discordia. Fnord.

Posted by: Fnord73 | Jan 5 2023 16:53 utc | 319

@ Karlof1 post 110 in reply to mine @ 93
Globalization is nowhere close to dying; indeed, it’s becoming even stronger and will become even more so once the dollar is sidelined and more nations can participate on an equal basis. Trade and resulting mutual Win-Win benefits will escalate as the world prepares itself for the initiation of a terser steady-state nature of development forced by the decline of fossil fuels. Just because global trade might bifurcate into two blocs–dollar and non-dollar–doesn’t spell the end of globalization. What it does spell the end of is global neoliberal parasitism and related plundering of weak nations–bad for Black Rock; great for RoW.
Thanks for the shoutout. I cited BlackRock’s CEO Fink/WEF quoted in the article at link.
Whether spelled with an s or z, the definition of the word ”Globalization” comes in many flavours and, depending on the authors’ positions, we read:
“Globalisation is dying” “is not dying, “is evolving”, “is not dead”, “is dead.”
In 2019, The Economist interviewed Michael O’Sullivan on his book, “The Levelling”
Book review Goodreads: A brilliant analysis of the transition in world economics, finance, and power as the era of globalization ends and gives way to new power centers and institutions. 
LINK
Think BRICS+ the 87% vs the 13%
Globalisation is dead and we are in the dawn of a new world order. Multipolarity.
Business Titans who have declared Globalization dead include Levi’s CEO (April 2022) and recently weeks ago, the 91-years-old founder of TSMC.
12 Dec. 2022
Globalization is Dead and No One is Listening
LINK

The “tool-in” ceremony of TSMC’s new fab in Arizona drew a lot of attention last week. CEOs from Apple, Nvidia, and AMD attended and spoke. President Biden, along with a coterie of cabinet officials, congresspeople, and local Arizona politicians, came to rally, celebrate, and claim (as we will see, a premature) victory.
Amidst all the pomp and circumstance was a short, but powerful and sobering speech by Morris Chang, the now-91-years-old founder of TSMC. He shared his dream of building a fab in the US, the hard-earned lessons from TSMC’s first time building a fab in America 25 years ago, his perspective that globalization and free trade is almost dead, and why this event is just the “end of the beginning”. It was the only speech that gave a real sense of what America’s semiconductor future would really look like. Yet no one listened. No American, or any Western media outlet for that matter, bothered to cover this speech. Only Nikkei and a handful of Taiwanese outlets wrote about it. [.]
TSMC is arguably the one company that most epitomizes all the forces of globalization – free trade, hyper specialization, cross-border supply chain, and the assumption of geopolitical stability that lets all these forces interact and interconnect.
In this world, TSMC, and manufacturers like it, would build factories wherever it deems to make the most economic sense, without needing to worry about adverse political consequences.
Chang no doubt reflected on the core nature of globalization and free trade, of which he and TSMC are beneficiaries.
Witnessing TSMC’s newest fab being built in Arizona, a location TSMC would have never chosen if globalization were alive and well (a point he has made many times in the past), it is only appropriate for Chang to somberly proclaim the death of globalization (though he still hedged a bit with “almost”).[.]
The unfortunate second-order effect of the death of globalization that no one likes to talk about is the rising cost of all kinds of goods and products – a future that in Morris Chang’s own estimation, the chips produced from TSMC Arizona may cost “at least 50% more” than the chips from TSMC Taiwan. Will TSMC pass on that cost to Apple or let it eat into its margins? Will Apple pass on that cost to consumers or let it eat into its margins? No one knows right now, but as TSMC Arizona starts churning out wafers, we will know soon enough.may make persistent inflation even worse. [.]
(emphasis added)

Companies moving to low-income countries, produce a shirt for $2.00 export that shirt to home territory for a retail price at $60.00.
Bam, Bam. Supply chain disruptions. Sanctions and forfeiture of assets otherwise known as theft. How ironic is it that the titans of industry in the collective west are the architects of globalization, and now its executioner.

Posted by: Likklemore | Jan 5 2023 17:07 utc | 320

@ uncle tungsten… great comment on the AI and one of our posters here.. thanks..
@ richard steven hack… another great comment.. fortunately b isn’t closing down moa just yet…
@ outraged and shadowbanned.. lots of good commentary regardless of the position taken..
@ tim.. i agree with you..
@ Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 5 2023 14:31 utc | 287
great comics biswapriva.. listen to your girlfriend!

Posted by: james | Jan 5 2023 17:10 utc | 321

it will then become the pleasure of the Argentinians to retrieve the Malvinas Islands.
Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 5 2023 1:17 utc | 132

Surely you know enough history to know the Falkland Islands were never under the control of Argentina, though they were briefly under the control of Spain. The expulsion of the first British settlement was the result of action of US based pirates and commercial interests. The period of continuous British control was from 1833.
If we respect the rights of self determination via referendum, as most here do for Crimea and Donbass, then the Falkland Islands will continue to be British for the near future. Only 3 residents voted not to remain part of the UK.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 5 2023 17:21 utc | 322

Doug Hillman @299–
Thanks for your reply and appraisal. That’s not the first time I’ve written those words in a somewhat similar fashion as a reminder the entire field must be seen, not just one receiver. I see that big name analysts like Ivan Timofeev are guilty of that error, most recently in his op/ed in today’s RT where he posits that at the time of the USSR’s implosion “there was not a single country, or community, left in the world which offered a realistic alternative to the US-led view of the organization of the economy, society, and the political system.” How convenient of him to omit China. That sort of introductory gaff leads me to ignore his entire essay as he just vastly lowered his credibility. Meanwhile, Escobar says his first column of the new year ought to be out later today or tomorrow. Now to read about the proposed Christmas Truce the Ukies will never obey.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 5 2023 17:24 utc | 323

Lex @305–
Thanks for your comment. My related comments weren’t as specific. As many ought to know, Russia builds special vehicles for transiting its permafrost regions when frozen or thawed but hasn’t employed in Ukraine. Also, many are ignoring the warming effect provided by the Black Sea on mainland temps. Clearly, too many barflies didn’t take a collegiate level physical geography course where they would have learned such things.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 5 2023 17:38 utc | 324

I’m astonished at the amount of delusion here.

Posted by: vicw | Jan 5 2023 17:38 utc | 325

The Baltic States’ hostility and belligerence towards Russia is hard to comprehend. Reading Putin’s speeches through the years and observing Russian actions, there seems to be no objective reason for the Baltic’s weird Russophobia. Quite the contrary. It may well be that Baltics are a bastion of ideological nationalism, similar to that stoked in 1930’s Germany. Don’t know enough about these places to judge. But they behave in a weird way.
Posted by: NewJerseyJoe | Jan 5 2023 16:17 utc | 312

There is a reason — the elites there want it. Same reason everywhere else in Eastern Europe, BTW.
The objective facts are that under communism the Baltics, Western Ukraine (Western Ukraine specifically, not the whole) and Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan were the most pampered regions in the USSR. They were in the first category for supply with goods, and received huge investment into industry and infrastructure.
Yet those were the places that catalyzed the dissolution of the union and then adopted the most militantly Russophobic and anti-Communist positions (the two things go hand in hand).
You can extend this observation to the Soviet satellites that weren’t part of the USSR.
The USSR was an empire in reverse. Unlike what the Western Europeans had been doing for 500 years, in the USSR real wealth flowed from the center to the periphery.
That is a unique case in human history.
Life being much better in Latvia, Georgia, Czechoslovakia, etc. than in Lipetsk, Omsk, Barnaul, etc. was the direct result of the latter subsidizing the former.
And what did the Russians get in return? Well, you see it now.
But that doesn’t stem from the average person on the streets, it is all catalyzed by the elites.
Because the Western system is what allows a small oligarchy to prosper on the basis of extracting the rent from the territories it governs, sending it to its masters, and getting a cut for its services.
If, God forbid, communism is ever to return, that gig will be up, and not only that, but it may once again end up in unmarked graves in some ravine (which, let’s face it, is the least that those people deserve).
Those elites harbor an atavistic primal fear of that possibility. Plus their master wants Russia destroyed, in order to loot it, and a cut of that is promised to the local elites. So those motivations combine into a very powerful and destructive force.
Thus rabid Russophobia combined with anti-Communism, even though the two things don’t have any logical connection between them — one of the principles the USSR was founded on was the suppression of great Russian chauvinism…

Posted by: shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 17:44 utc | 326

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 4 2023 22:10 utc | 70 but amended by snake as part of my comment follows:
…[T]he American First movement, …is poised now to ..usher in a reckoning-tribunal unprecedented [in comparison to Nuremberg].
“Russia is pushing up against the empire abroad. Anti-global, anti-imperial, anti-fake propaganda, and anti- abandonment of the constitution scenarios have incubated a domestic clamour for nationalism and sovereignty. The international globals in charge of the governments are now caught in a total pincer move
<=Please forgive my amendments and restatements to your fantastic post.. pincer move it is, I think. The anti-global is fast becoming an international coalition. The great reset idea that humanity is to be controlled by, governed by, and made subservient to non-human entities (NHEs), non-human intelligence(NHIs), non-human communications, non-human armies(NHAs), non-human police(NHP), non-human governments and other non-human organizations (NHOs) has offended many domestics trapped in the globally aggressive nation states. Anti-Globalism seems to be about refusing non-human control (corporations and governments subservient to corporations) over humans. Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 5 2023 1:36 utc | 136 Down with the Empire. An emerging majority of my countrymen want to get America back from its piratical owners. Posted by: Chris Cosmo | Jan 5 2023 3:26 utc | 161 The USA ceased being a constitutional republic with democratic institutions a long time ago. There are some elements in the country like a burgeoning dissident community online that will soon integrate into something new that is neither "left" nor "right" My view is this trend is developing at a rapid speed.

Posted by: snake | Jan 5 2023 18:13 utc | 327

I completely disagree with this analysis. Attrition warfare works in Russia’s favor. It is very slow but effective in saving the lives of Russian soldiers. Maneuverable warfare (or big offensives) will reduce the artillery protections for marching Russian soldiers. Russians are trying to avoid casualties and preserve their combat potential as much as possible. General Surovikin is not known for big arrow offensives and instead focuses on a slow approch.

Posted by: Ankit Khandelwal | Jan 5 2023 18:18 utc | 328

I completely disagree with this analysis. Attrition warfare works in Russia’s favor. It is very slow but effective in saving the lives of Russian soldiers. Maneuverable warfare (or big offensives) will reduce the artillery protections for marching Russian soldiers. Russians are trying to avoid casualties and preserve their combat potential as much as possible. General Surovikin is not known for big arrow offensives and instead focuses on a slow approch.
Posted by: Ankit Khandelwal | Jan 5 2023 18:18 utc | 329

Some serious misunderstanding here.
The beef that people have with the way the war is fought is not that it is attritional, it is that while being attritional it is still not properly fought.
There is so much that could have been and still can be done to attrite Ukrainian forces through standoff means, and that would in fact reduce Russian casualties, but it has not been and is not being done.
It is an endless string of examples of transport infrastructure still standing, Ukrainians being able to load and unload trains very close to the frontlines (what happened in Druzhkovka the other day is notable for happening in the first place, because mostly Ukrainians are left to transport whatever they want in complete peace), Ukrainians being allowed to concentrate manpower and equipment in one place with no missile strikes bothering them, then launch attacks from there (including successful such attacks), and of course, military and civilian leadership never being targeted even though clearly they themselves do not play by that rule.
And then when you point that out, you are called a “concern troll”…

Posted by: shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 18:24 utc | 329

In 1986 I moved to what I thought would be a rural idyll for my family in Herefordshire, but I soon found what sort of community I had entered. British divorce law divides all wealth, including farmland between the divorced couple, and as a result nobody ever got divorced. The whole community just shagged around like sheep.
In this community the c o England vicar, the doctor, the solicitor, the hard-working neighbours, all accepted this frrevfor all as perfectly normal.
I now live in a Muslim.community where it is not socially acceptable to look at or greet a female neighbour. To use a metaphor from Christianity the tares and thistles are able eventually to choke the wheat.
Posted by: Giyane | Jan 5 2023 11:03 utc | 235

Now that is funny, from a religion that allows polygamy. I would argue that consensual polyamory is the more pragmatic approach and consistent with basic human biology. But to each their own.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 5 2023 18:33 utc | 330

@Blissex
You appear to be an intelligent fellow, but I think you’re greatly overestimating the capabilities of the neo-conservatives to “regime change” Russia.
For one thing, they could not even get the job done vs. Assad.
For another, most Russians I believe have Internet access, and can easily discover facts, such as:
1. America had the worst death toll per capita from COVID, save maybe Brazil, and in general handled the situation in a clown world fashion.
2. America has been steadily in decline since the 1980s, cannot control its own borders, and life expectancies have been in decline since the mid 2010s.
3. At least 30% of US-ians are on anti-depressants. What does that say?
Unless its’ a banana republic, doing the regime change thing is hard when 90% of the population supports the current government, as I suspect is the case in Russia.
Don’t be delusional. Cutting off the Prada bags and shoes is not a sign of a reality-based mindset. Maybe in 1980 it would have worked, but this is not 1980 America.

Posted by: Chris | Jan 5 2023 18:55 utc | 331

NewJerseyJoe @101 @302
Fully agree with you on the Anti-Russian propaganda in Germany, and on the indifference about who committed the North Stream 2 sabotage. People are not thinking, instead they believe what the state TV-channels and the big newspapers have prepared for their consumption. Both appear to be fully under US control. So I’m asking myself the same question: why is it working so well?
Part of the answer are organisations like “Atlantikbrücke” that have most alpha-journalists and many top politicians as members. Atlantikbrücke seems to play a crucial role (just like the Bilderbergers do) in managing German careers in media and politics.
But what I learned only recently, seems just as important. There exists a top secret document called the “Chancellor Act” which every incoming German Chancellor has to sign, a document surrendering, among other things, control of the German media to the US for the time until 2099. But see for yourself. And as you said, nobody in Germany seems to know.
The subject popped up around 2008 and was then, of course, dismissed as a conspiracy theory. Then in 2012, the existance of “Chancellor Act” was confirmed by one Egon Bahr, a close political ally of Willy Brandt. The latter has also been told to sign the document, and first protested against such an act of submission, but finally went along with it after having been told that all of his predecessors, beginning with Adenauer, had signed it. It goes back to our unconditional surrender in WW2. The US, as one of the winning powers, took advantage and forced Germany’s consent to the secret treaty which has the “Chancellor Act” as a part of it.
Apparently, Merkel has been spared the humiliating procedure – perhaps because she was considered loyal. Scholz looks and acts like someone who signed the document.
I became aware of the “Chancellor Act” only when RT international covered it recently. How can such a crucial element of our history, that explains so much, be virtually unknown to the German people?

Posted by: grunzt | Jan 5 2023 19:20 utc | 332

Posted by: Ed | Jan 5 2023 3:50 utc | 168
“writes above my reading comprehension”
The essence of good writing in any language is clear communication. The fault in any article with is not clear to the reader is most likely with the writer. Of course, this doesn’t apply to James Joyce, where you have to make a bit of an effort.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 5 2023 19:41 utc | 333

“The fault . . . or the spellchecker

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jan 5 2023 19:42 utc | 334

So after this immense cock-up, the very next day the Russian MoD invents some new story about hundreds of mercenaries killed and sprinkles in some more HIMARS for good measure. – Bernd @1
Versus Bernd’s [Bernhard Detractor’s?] unsubstantiated bullshit, Southfront also reported on this retaliation:
Russia Responds To Makeevka Missile Strike
“… The Russian Defense Ministry said that the launcher used for the strike in Makeevka was immediately destroyed by return fire. Moreover, on January 3, Russian missiles hit military targets near the Druzhkovka railway station in the Donetsk People’s Republic. The strike even got on the cameras of French television. As a result, two US-made HIMARs launchers, four combat vehicles of Czech-made RM-70 Vampire MLRS were destroyed; as well as more than 800 rockets for them, six vehicles, and up to 120 Ukrainian servicemen. …”
Nice try, troll.

Posted by: JMF | Jan 5 2023 20:15 utc | 335

@ grunzt | Jan 5 2023 19:20 utc | 333
The Chancellor Act is fake news, debunked here.

Posted by: Lone Druid | Jan 5 2023 20:46 utc | 336

Furthermore, on the economic warfare front, when the BRICS+ are good and ready, I can imagine a large salvo of hypersonic missiles plowing into the Bank of International Settlement in Switzerland.
How’s that for asymmetric warfare?
Posted by: Eric Blair | Jan 4 2023 19:56 utc | 15
Surely you realize when making an adolescent statement like that that the BRICS+ countries and China and Russia will have won by sheer economic weight and organizing without having to resort to… adolescent fantaisies. So why? Does it make your dick hard ? Or are you trying to make us all look like 12-year-olds?

Posted by: Gene Poole | Jan 5 2023 20:53 utc | 337

Winning/Losing/Exhaustion
Kiev isn’t fighting like an exhausted animal, it seems to me. Flying choppers over a hot zone. At this stage. Where’s the ‘air supremacy’? The Manpads? The drones? Air recon means flying at height so you can see all – and can be seen?
From Rybar English:
❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Starobilsk direction
situation as of 13.00 January 5, 2023
🔻 Units of the 67th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine arrived at the Kupyansko-Svatovsky section. Nationalists from the former “Right Sector” occupy positions at the turn of Liman 1st – Sinkovka – Kupyansk.
▪️Along the line of contact, Ukrainian formations continue active air reconnaissance with copters, directing artillery and tank fire at Russian positions. From Chuguev to the west of Kupyansk, the Bayraktar TB2 UAV is used for reconnaissance and target designation.
Strikeback/Bases
First, a third of Syria is still not liberated. And it could have been a long time ago. A massive missile attack will evaporate all those US bases in one day, and it would be perfectly legal under international law — Russia is there by official invitation from the legitimate Syrian government, the US is the invader — so there is nothing to complain about.
Second, Syria isn’t anywhere close to the historic heart of Russian civilization and you can’t do daily strikes on the major Russian cities from there. From Ukraine you can, and it is only going to get worse from here on.
Posted by: shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 11:44 utc | 247
Yes. This points out something. The USA has 750 Bases in the world that are supposed to be 750 indicators of its massive awesome power.
But aren’t they actually 750 points of vulnerability? 750 ‘fingers’ that can get chopped off? With no accountability? Full ostensible deniability?
We know Russia cannot overtly attack NATO or the USA for fear of massive escalation into world war. So we have this situation where the smarmy cowards attack Russia/the allies at second hand continually and they apparently cannot fight back.
But they could fight back this way and blandly claim it was/is nothing to do with Russia/the allies, it just must be because the USA has made itself so unpopular in the world. How can Russia/allies be blamed for that?
Russia could be manipulating terrorist or at least malcontent organisations (if she doesn’t wish to associate with terrorists – though what’s in a name?) at second hand with lots of cut-outs so that no one can prove it was organised, promoted by Russia/the Allies.
If USA and UK etc. can get away with such deceit – and we ALL know they do ALL the time then I’m sure Russia/the Allies can.
Every and any kind of strike against these ubiquitous vulnerable bases could be organised. Lethal merely mischief.
They are soft targets I expect because that’s always been the nature of the American military. In Vietnam the Vietcong doing the laundry for the yanks in their home bases, that sort of thing.
Let one or two of them be attacked somewhat severely by anonymous or front groups and they’d have to lock them all down. 750 bases in 80 nations around the world locked down overnight! That’d sting a bit I think, wouldn’t it?
Discontent on the ground would grow. How happy would the American military be if they couldn’t freely wander around to the brothels and ice cream parlous? Couldn’t get their washing and cleaning done for them by the locals etc. ? Well in fact if they followed the Australian model (which probably follows the American model) they’d even have local contractors doing their perimiter security for them! Yes. I kid you not. I worked on a base, twice, in Aus. that did just that. Civilian security firms manned the main gate and ‘guarded’ the perimeter. Yes. And Aus. is ‘proud’ of its military and thinks it actually has a Minister for Defence.
Seems a no brainer to me. To be somewhat crude but to the point the USA has a soft member hanging out in 80 nations around the world and could easily find itself in a world of pain. And who could say it has not asked for it? Manifestations of ’empire’. Now, as with the Romans, let it defend it.
Propaganda:
Kiev soldiers in the trenches will tell the camera they are fighting for Ukraine and to defend their land. Where’s the propaganda war? should be operative at all levels, surely? Dropping leaflets, posters, radio, social media, everywhere. The reality disconnect is total. Could be/should be made plain to them.
They are not fighting ‘Ukraine for something against THEM’. It is plainly Ukraine v Ukraine.
To this day. They know that. They hear conversations across the line. They see the bodies.
It is Kiev Ukraine v ‘Donbas’ Ukraine and has been for eight years. Famously the Donbas Ukrainians have carried the BRUNT of this ‘war’ all this year and still do according to many Telegram posts.
This should be made clear and emphasised and emphasised.
Then they are NOT defending their lands. THEY are invading their brother’s land. They know that. Or should. If they understand the local political boundaries in Ukraine in the location where they are fighting. That’s Donbas Ukraine land. It is not theirs – Kiev Ukraine, it is local, Donbas Ukraine land. It is THEY who are invading.
Talk across the line to the Russian side and the Ukrainians there will state loud and clear ‘we fight to protect our land’ – and they have done so for eight years.
Seems to me this could and should be made very clear to the poor Kiev deluded soldiers. To the western press and people, too.
And the goal if one is ever expressed: to drive the ‘invaders’ from the land.
Another nonsense. As said there are no invaders in that sense. The occupiers of the land ARE Ukrainians but now they’ve asked to be part of the Russian federation – for protection against Kiev. But they ARE Ukrainian.
So the real goal is to drive Ukrainians from Ukraine. To empty the four oblasts and take over them.
It is Kiev seeking to take over four oblasts and the methodology is clear: by war, by violence, they want to kill the occupiers. If they occupied those four oblasts short of killing everyone – if they surrendered tomorrow – then they’d occupy and immediately being intense programmes of retribution and murder. Do the Kiev soldiers really know this is their ‘goal’?
Three things:
. The Kiev military machine is performing in ways that don’t jibe with the russophile narrative.
. The USA is vulnerable in clear easy ways and they’re not being employed.
. There’s a crying need and utility to be gained for a propaganda campaign – if truth can be called ‘propaganda’.
It’s actually a campaign every sensible person should be participating in. Paraphrasing John Stuart Mill: ‘For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.’ That’s where we are at today, all over the world.

Posted by: abrogard | Jan 5 2023 21:13 utc | 338

@shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 17:44 utc | #327
Thanks for the info on the “Chancellor Act”. Fascinating, but not completely unexpected, given that Germany had surrendered unconditionally but was of major importance against the coming confrontation with Soviet Russia, as seen by the US Dept. of State at the time. This explains the complete subservience of German State media to the US narrative and the fact that no dissent is allowed.

Posted by: NewJerseyJoe | Jan 5 2023 21:16 utc | 339

Lone Druid @337
grunzt @333
Who is mythdetector.de?
Why should I look upon DPA as a trustworthy fact checker?
The dispute as covered in your link dates from May 2022 and was seen as an effort to justify Putin’s invasion.
These days, you don’t know who you can trust. I do not trust Correctiv, either, or Bellingcat. How about you?
When something is as top secret as this and someone publishes it, expect a very forceful and sophisticated response from those in charge of keeping the secret.
Since I have only late Egon Bahr as my witness, I need to go by plausibility, asking such questions like: If the Chancellor Act of 1949 existed, what would the German media landscape of 2023 look like? The answer: it would be transatlantic, it would be well coordinated, speaking with one voice, like there was some central figure telling everybody what to write and broadcast in response to every important event. It would be like … what we have. Take NS2 as an example.

Posted by: grunzt | Jan 5 2023 21:39 utc | 340

Posted by: Lex | Jan 5 2023 15:56 utc | 305
Any ground freezing, even if only a few inches, changes the warfare environment, because it puts an end to rasputitsa.

Posted by: Peter Williams | Jan 5 2023 22:13 utc | 341

The talk of ground freezing is also getting tiring, because it mostly seems to be coming from people who don’t know how ground freezes. A week or two of below freezing temperatures doesn’t freeze ground to any significant depth. It’s been below freezing here for almost two months and the frost line is 6″, which is not enough to support 40+ ton tanks (my area regularly sees winter frost lines of 3′ deep). How and when ground freezes to depth is both weather related and soil profile related. Early snow cover will retard soil freezing because it acts as an insulator. Deep top soil may freeze much slower than rocky or sandy soil because it has better structure which also acts as an insulator. And again, “frozen” to a few inches in depth is not the same as frozen to feet. Ground that appears frozen based on walking on it or even driving a 2 ton car on it is not the same as frozen to a depth that supports heavy equipment.
Posted by: Lex | Jan 5 2023 15:56 utc | 305
This pontificating about ground freezing by our armchair pundits is getting a bit tedious and confusing. To me at least.
It always has been my understanding that tanks with caterpillar tracks are specifically designed to be able to negotiate soft ground better than anything else around.
Now I’m not so sure. I do a google and I discover a mountain bike apparently exerts twice the ground pressure of an Abrams tank!
And I’m fairly sure a mountain bike would negotiate even mildly frozen ground pretty well. I think I’ve seen them do it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_pressure

Posted by: abrogard | Jan 5 2023 22:39 utc | 342

It is an endless string of examples of transport infrastructure still standing, Ukrainians being able to load and unload trains very close to the frontlines (what happened in Druzhkovka the other day is notable for happening in the first place, because mostly Ukrainians are left to transport whatever they want in complete peace), Ukrainians being allowed to concentrate manpower and equipment in one place with no missile strikes bothering them, then launch attacks from there (including successful such attacks), and of course, military and civilian leadership never being targeted even though clearly they themselves do not play by that rule.
And then when you point that out, you are called a “concern troll”…
Posted by: shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 18:24 utc | 330
Agree entirely. There’s something drastically amiss with this SMO scenario. I am thinking it is simply the Russian military machine is in disarray, is corrupted by time servers, incompetents and – possibly mainly – a massive growth in ‘bureaucratic impedimental practices’, to coin a phrase. I refer to C Northcote Parkinson and the remorseless tendency for bureaucracy to expand. I find the most significant complaints about the Russian military machine to be those that talk of having to clear a fire order through numerous levels before it can be given. I think that very clearly points to a dysfunctional system of the ‘ swollen bureacracy impeded’ type.
It’s my hope/belief that the current hiatus is deliberate while they (hopefully) go through the whole thing with a fine tooth comb and get it straightened out.
And being called any kind of ‘troll’ – well there is one thing that is very basic, very simple and very clear: ad hominem is in no way relevant, sensible, productive or polite. The only good thing about those who use it is that they very clearly flag themselves for what they are and make it easy thenceforth to quickly skip over their noxious posts and ignore them.

Posted by: abrogard | Jan 5 2023 22:54 utc | 343

@ DunGroanin | Jan 5 2023 14:32 utc | 287
Argh! 60 seconds of the ‘International Legionnaire’ was more than enough. So that’s what we call illegal unprivileged belligerents/illegal combatants, mercenary ‘Soldiers-of-Fortune’ now ? Sounds so very, very respectable.
Do typical Brits actually swallow this crap ?
@ shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 18:24 utc | 330
War not being fought ‘properly’ ? Not enough ‘Shock & Awe’ & widespread ‘Collateral Murder’ for your bosses liking, obviously. Killing Banderastan leadership accomplishes nothing, may well worsen situ re absolute Nazi dominance. Bad for RoW perceptions/support. The whole point of the ongoing terror attacks & SpecOps/sabotage/raids attacks is to deter/influence RF leadership from its considered ongoing effective strategy, plus boost to false propaganda/Psyops narrative.
You know this.
Slick, knowledgeable, increasingly low-key & more subtle, yet, an actual professional troll all the same, whether faux concern temporarily or otherwise. You’re trained, supervised & tasked, without a doubt. Damn shame earlier posts are searchable for posterity, hm ?
@ abrogard | Jan 5 2023 22:39 utc | 343
Inanities troll mode ? What’s next …

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 5 2023 22:55 utc | 344

I’m astonished at the amount of delusion here.
Posted by: vicw | Jan 5 2023 17:38 utc | 326
Why? Were you not there during three years of total global covid/vaccination delusion?

Posted by: abrogard | Jan 5 2023 22:57 utc | 345


@WarMonitors
⚡️British Foreign Secretary: Russia must withdraw its forces from Ukraine and end its attacks against civilians”
https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1611115243123490817?s=20&t=B0OeLV7UxKQGNsDcQjXbTw
As soon as natzo withdraws to its 1940 borders, it’s a done deal!
Aprez tu Yankee poodles of Europe. And for the record I’m not looking for a ‘New England’ 😆

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 5 2023 23:12 utc | 346

@ DunGroanin | Jan 5 2023 23:12 utc | 347

As soon as natzo withdraws to its 1940 borders, it’s a done deal!

LOL. Time to clean the coffee off the monitor again. Cheers. 🙂
Yet, the core of all effective humor is, truth.
The offers on the table for a settlement will only get worse as time goes bye … 1997 back to 1940 or even Sep ’39 may eventuate.
After all, this is all GeneralPlan Ost MkII, & Empire/NATO/EU/Banderastan is doing a damned good impersonation of a reborn 4th Riech.

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 5 2023 23:35 utc | 347

The talk of ground freezing is also getting tiring, because it mostly seems to be coming from people who don’t know how ground freezes. A week or two of below freezing temperatures doesn’t freeze ground to any significant depth. It’s been below freezing here for almost two months and the frost line is 6″, which is not enough to support 40+ ton tanks (my area regularly sees winter frost lines of 3′ deep). How and when ground freezes to depth is both weather related and soil profile related. Early snow cover will retard soil freezing because it acts as an insulator. Deep top soil may freeze much slower than rocky or sandy soil because it has better structure which also acts as an insulator. And again, “frozen” to a few inches in depth is not the same as frozen to feet. Ground that appears frozen based on walking on it or even driving a 2 ton car on it is not the same as frozen to a depth that supports heavy equipment.
Posted by: Lex | Jan 5 2023 15:56 utc | 305
Yet, it does freeze sufficiently to drive tanks and other heavy equipment across large areas. This was proven during WW2. Right Lex? Perhaps there is something to this climate change stuff after all.

Posted by: Ed | Jan 6 2023 0:13 utc | 348

The collective resolve to win matters more than body counts.
Posted by: fnord | Jan 5 2023 16:09 utc | 309
No bodies, no war. I think your friend may have been mistaken, or a victim of bad information.

Posted by: Ed | Jan 6 2023 0:21 utc | 349

Truly fascinating, however, it has not even that fast, it’s in brewing ever since the USA lost its goals in Iraq and Syria, yes I’m a very biased Syrian, rejected the ultimatum of the disgraced Colin Powell when he visited Damascus after they invaded Iraq and handed President Assad some 13 condition and was shown the door despite having up to half a million British and US troops in Iraq next door, NATO Turkey in the north, Israel and Jordan in the south with their Gulfies extensions, that marked the first serious confrontation of the PNAC project with Syria, the last bastion of reason this part of the world if not broader.
We should also remmebr that the 2006 Israel / all of NATO plus Gulfies war against Lebanon was another mark fot he US-led camp hegemony decaying. Followed immediately by the Qatari offer to the Syrian President Assad to allow a passage of the Qatari gas pipeline through Syria then Turkey into Europe bypassing both Iran and Russia and cutting off China from West Asia, ie Syria and its access on the Mediterranean. Assad who instead of accepting the offer that nobody else would refuse which included about 14 billion dollars in cash investments, declared undisputed regional ruler for life, among other goodies, Assad flew to Moscow and warned Putin who promised a full alliance in the event Syria gets targeted, Putin and Iran started building their economies and engaging Europe more, Assad offered the Gulfies his 5 Seas initiative for regional super powerful economic bloc, which was an offer they shouldn’t have rejected, yet they did.
Plotting against Syria started seriously after that and we got the Arab Spring Syria’s version. During which, former late and longest serving Syrian minister of defense Tlass when asked by his sons about the what seemed to be the imminent fall of Syria said wisely back in 2012: the whole global order will fall and Syria will not because it’s the last obstacle before either total US empire hegemony or a multi polar global order.
You can always thank the Syrian people, their heroic army, and their stubborn (in a good meaning) leadership, and of course, their enormous continuous sacrifices to make this happen. Remember Russia only intervened in Syria at the end of depend 2015, and Iran a year earlier when it realized that the Muslim Brotherhood were not their friends.

Posted by: Arabic Souri | Jan 6 2023 2:25 utc | 350

Karlof1@ 185
Yes, thanks for the insights. I agree Japan has special problems that the rest of Asia does not have – problems like a debt-to-GDP ratio topping 200%, which is like a boulder tied to the G-7’s leg – but I was mostly focused on the reasons cited for backing away from the dollar, which seemed compelling to me even as a non-investor.
China and India are both past the theoretical ‘tipping point’ of 70% debt-to-GDP, but that seems to be the norm for Europe and nobody is visibly alarmed by that. Russia and China are a natural alliance so long as China remains an unassailable land power and Russia remains its primary source of energy; China is doubtless well aware what a NATO victory over Russia (however unlikely) would mean for its energy supply.

Posted by: Mark | Jan 6 2023 2:44 utc | 351

Posted by: Arabic Souri | Jan 6 2023 2:25 utc | 351
Brilliant, thank you. I was saddened some time ago – a year maybe? – when I happened to see something that showed me what has happened to Syria since that time. I thought they’d thrown off the Americans etc. and had got back to where they were.
Apparently not so.
Severely damaged to this day I believe?
And the Americans calmly sitting there and stealing their oil?
And people think we have a global rule of law?
I have recently thought that America’s weak point in this war with Russia is its bases spread across the world.
USA attacks Russia continually via Ukraine. But Russia cannot attack back for fear of NATO war or US war and nukes.
But the bases give an opportunity of anonymous attack, or false flag attack.
Russia could encourage willing forces to attack American bases and the world could know it was Russia hitting back but legally and out there in arena of law it could not be proved.
It could be hidden better than the US and UK hid their involvement in the pipeline destruction
Every blow from US and UK and NATO could be parried with a dozen blows against American bases.
What soft targets!
And so plentiful: 750 of them!
And so ubiquitous: in 80 different nations!
Just the mere threat of attack would cause most to close their doors, lockdown and panic. All their civilians and govt junketeers would be scrambling to get out. All the military staff, spoilt babies, would by crying about the awful conditions they now have to live under, with access to town limited and no visiting laundrymen to do their laundry etc…
Some of them possibly even use contractors for their perimeter security if they are anywhere near as lax as their buddies the Australians, who do that.
Wouldn’t they scream if they had to start acting like soldiers?
And they could start with the bases in Syria – there’s plenty of ‘terrorist’ organisations could claim the credit and Putin could claim total innocence.
I’d love to see it begin.
Yep, Assad and his wife had a wonderful country going there.
I heard about the awful prisons and torture and stuff like that and I don’t know the truth of it. Sorry if it is true.
But if it is,was, true then I know it’d be no different to the standard all across most of that area of the world, perhaps even most of the world.
The difference being that in Assad’s country the ugliness (if it was there) was offset by a nation full of freedoms and making excellent progress. So much excellent progress that the USA had to come in there and try to kill it.
Heartening to hear that Assad went to Moscow. That was a good little tidbit.
🙂

Posted by: abrogard | Jan 6 2023 3:07 utc | 352

Just for the record & my list
further gratuitous ad hominem:
Posted by: Outraged | Jan 5 2023 22:55 utc | 345

Posted by: abrogard | Jan 6 2023 3:18 utc | 353

@grunzt 333, @LoneDruid 337, grunzt 341
The secret document which had to be signed (maybe still is?), is described in the book by Egon Bahr which I have mentioned in my comment @142, The Atlantic Brucke is important in control of Germany – I agree.
But the question I am raising is the control of other national media, the ingenious way how the other nations, which have not been conquered in WW2, are under similar control, and they do not have the secret “acts’ to be signed, the do not have the “Atlantic Brucke”. And yet, there is remarkable simultaneous idea-and image messaging all over the world. The example of Russophobia exploding in many languages after around the year 2000 is one good example of what I am talking about.
Lone Druid, the document which you link to may indeed be false, I cannot vouch for it, but the document is only talking ABOUT the secret act, it is not the “act” itself – if you understand German you can easily see that reading the text of the photography in your link. Egon Bahr in his book, which I have quoted, is more believable, agree with grunzt.

Posted by: fanto | Jan 6 2023 3:23 utc | 354

@ fanto | Jan 6 2023 3:23 utc | 355
Thanks for the info. But I somehow can’t access the book you’re talking about. Would it be possible for you to quote the specific passage from that book where the author mentions The Chancellor Act?

Posted by: Lone Druid | Jan 6 2023 6:58 utc | 355

Been a while since I looked you up, b.
You’re not going to like this.
Insofar as it is pretty evident that the Russians do not understand the war they are fighting in Ukraine and you seem to be prey to the same cognitive disconnect, much of what you are putting forth as “analysis” is just pure nonsense that is plainly inconsistent with the ground level facts that have unfolded over the course of the past 10 months. Russia is going backwards and is having to expend vast amounts of resources to just stand still – that is not a situation that is sustainable.
For someone who is so “down” on disinformation your reliance on Russian MoD propaganda nonsense, after 10 months of transparent bullshit emanating from them, simply tells me that you can’t recognise reality any longer.

Posted by: rastignac | Jan 6 2023 11:05 utc | 356

Posted by: rastignac | Jan 6 2023 11:05 utc | 357
Both sides use propaganda during war, but when those of us in the west see howlers like “Putin dying of cancer” and yahoo news printing literal propaganda from the Ukraine rather than using sourced journalists, well, think for yourself. Your mommy is not going to hold your hand and tell you the truth.

Posted by: Chris | Jan 6 2023 15:34 utc | 357

@ Chris | Jan 6 2023 15:34 utc | 358
all the kiddies get to play in the sand box here.. even rastignac, lol…

Posted by: james | Jan 6 2023 16:52 utc | 358

@LoneDruid 356
On page 113 of the book “Ostwarts und Nichts Vergessen” with undertitle “Politik zwischen Krieg und Verstandigung”(Herder Verlag, 2015) Egon Bahr writes that he (Bahr) missed in 2009 – when the 60th anniversary of the German Constitution was celebrated – the “Lebenslüge” was not mentioned about the limitation of sovereignty.
In the next paragraph on the same page Bahr specifically mentions how Willy Brandt was upset when he was asked by a high official to sign three letters, addressed to the three High commissioners” of the three victorious powers, in which these powers reserve to themselves the right to suspend such points of the constitution which they deem not acceptable to them. (I have the two paragraphs ready to attach, but I am not sure if some limitations of the publisher could be brought in, and MoA could be charged with infringement of breaching the laws of citing published matters, without permission).

Posted by: fanto | Jan 6 2023 17:58 utc | 359

Chris | Jan 6 2023 15:34 utc | 358
Another no-star armchair general peers through a low-level knothole in the fence at a current conflict in Ukraine and thinks this is entire battlefield:
rastignac @357: “Insofar as it is pretty evident that the Russians do not understand the war they are fighting in Ukraine and you [b] seem to be prey to the same cognitive disconnect, much of what you are putting forth as “analysis” is just pure nonsense that is plainly inconsistent with the ground level facts that have unfolded over the course of the past 10 months. Russia is going backwards and is having to expend vast amounts of resources to just stand still – that is not a situation that is sustainable.”
Such armchair generals eagerly anticipate Russia’s imminent defeat in Ukraine (running out of everything again). The view is based entirely on self-reinforcing Western propaganda—propaganda meticulously cleansed of all objective analysis and historical context. Conspicuously memory-holes is a century of US/EU/IS wars, especially the last two bloody decades of the perpetual GWOT, which has left death, chaos, and misery everywhere in its wake.
And despite the verified lies we’ve been told about every war, over so many decades, this “war” is different, caused soley by “Russia’s unprovoked aggression”. Surely this time the ZOG (Zionist-occupied US Government) is not lying to us … certainly not leading us into a far more dangerous war.
Russia (plus China, most of the RoW, and b too) clearly comprehends that this is not only about the “war” in Ukraine. It is a civilizational, geopolitical-and-economic struggle for survival against NATO/Neocon psycopaths, armed with nukes, who are intent on full-spectrum global dominance. I think Russia has the more realistic grasp of the context and stakes in this and is managing, quite ably, the shift to a new paradigm. Just the view from my knothole.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jan 6 2023 21:47 utc | 360

Quote “That is “global policing” rather than piracy :-).
Posted by: Blissex | Jan 4 2023 21:36 utc | 54″
Nobody appointed 3rd rate country england to be a global poiceman.
That is why english pirates must be mercilessly killed.
the First thing ( in fact the only thing) Russia must do is to kill as many English soldiers (and not only their hired mercenaries ), English spies masquerading as British and BBC journalists and mercenaries as possible as in shortest time. That will settle the problem of the world being destabilized by the England pirate island and there will be no more plotting for wars by English pirates. But Russia does opposite! It let English mercenaries escape safely from donesk (Debeltsov enckave) in Feb 2015!

Posted by: Sam | Jan 6 2023 23:18 utc | 361

354
@grunzt 333, @LoneDruid 337, grunzt 341
All I know is that in France, from at least the time of Sarkozy, all the media seem to espouse the Atlanticist line, without deviation, and I have often wondered just how that mechanism works. Needless to say it continues operating.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Jan 8 2023 12:43 utc | 362

@ Outraged | Jan 5 2023 15:13 utc | 295
I didn’t namedrop Bhadrakumar to support my previous points. I wanted to separately make the point that Putin’s ratings have soared after the war. That’s a distinct point. Maybe the sentence immediately came after my previous points so it wasn’t clear.
On the other refutations —
1. I was talking about Bush Jr, and later Obama, extending NATO invitation to Ukraine. That was provocation, and it succeeded on 24th Feb 2022.
2. I was not talking about battlefield demonstration, but weapons testing for manufacturers. Ukraine war yields a potential long-term conflict zone for manufacturers to test their wares, junk or not. Investors are gleeful.
3. I was reiterating the fact that oil companies and weapons manufacturers are making windfall profits during the war, and still are.
4. US doesn’t deal with soft power. Soft power is a concept that’s useful to the weaker powers (like India, China, etc.). US can just show its big guns and get what they want, most of the time. US has positioned nuclear submarines in the South China Sea, without ratifying UNCLOS. You call that soft power? I just read an NYT article about how the US botched a drone strike in Afghanistan. Innocent civilians died. No ICJ, No due process. Just give them some Nobel prizes and that’ll do it. That’s a demonstration of pure unadulterated hard power. NATO is not a paper tiger. Russia is genuinely threatened by the existence of the organization for good reasons. In fact, judging by the reaction, Ukraine may even be given EU status soon. US power is deteriorating since WW2. That’s true. But this conflict also weakens their main foe (militarily). So it’s ultimately a cost-benefit analysis thing.

Posted by: Lone Druid | Jan 8 2023 16:47 utc | 363