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January 4, 2023
Ukraine – The Big Push To End The War

Over Christmas I had a short talk with a relative about the war in Ukraine. He asked me who would win and was astonished when I said: "Ukraine has zero chance to win." That person reads some German mainstream news sites and watches the public TV networks. With those sources of 'information' he was made to believe that Ukraine was winning the war.

One may excuse that with him never having been in a military and not being politically engaged. But still there are some basic numbers that let one conclude from the beginning that Russia, the much bigger, richer and more industrialized country, had clearly all advantages. My relative  obviously never had had that thought.

The 'western' propaganda is still quite strong. However, as I pointed out in March last year propaganda does not change a war and lies do not win it. Its believability is shrinking.

Former Lt.Col. Alex Vershinin, who in June pointed out that industrial warfare is back and the 'West' was not ready to wage it, has a new recommendable piece out which analyses the tactics on both sides, looks ahead and concludes that Russia will almost certainly win the war:

Wars of attrition are won through careful husbandry of one’s own resources while destroying the enemy’s. Russia entered the war with vast materiel superiority and a greater industrial base to sustain and replace losses. They have carefully preserved their resources, withdrawing every time the tactical situation turned against them. Ukraine started the war with a smaller resource pool and relied on the Western coalition to sustain its war effort. This dependency pressured Ukraine into a series of tactically successful offensives, which consumed strategic resources that Ukraine will struggle to replace in full, in my view. The real question isn’t whether Ukraine can regain all its territory, but whether it can inflict sufficient losses on Russian mobilized reservists to undermine Russia’s domestic unity, forcing it to the negotiation table on Ukrainian terms, or will Russian’ attrition strategy work to annex an even larger portion of Ukraine.

Russian domestic unity has only grown over the war. As Gilbert Doctorow points out wars make nations. The war does not only unite certain nationalistic parts of Ukraine who still dream of retaking Crimea. It also unites all of Russia. Unlike Ukraine Russia will be strengthened by it.

Casualties are expected in wars and the Russians, with their steady remembrance of the second world war as their Great Patriotic War, know this well. Screw ups also happen and at times some bad leadership decisions puts people into the wrong place where the enemy can and will kill them. That is what happened in Makeyevka (Donetsk) on New Years day 2 minutes after midnight. Some 100 Russian reservists died. The Russian leadership pointed out that they were killed by U.S. HIMARS missiles. The former Indian diplomat M. K. Bhadrakumar judges that this was a U.S. escalation which will likely receive a response:

The intelligence inputs in real time show direct American participation in the horrific operation targeting the Russian conscripts’ New Year party just when the toasts began. Of course, whipping up public sentiments in Russia against Putin is a core American objective in the war.

We are entering a grey zone. Expect “surgical strikes” by the Russian forces, too. After all, at some point soon enough, it will emerge that what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Some retaliation has already happened. Yesterday the Russian Defense Ministry reported that over 130 foreign mercenaries were killed in attacks on their bases near Maslyakovka and Kramatorsk. Those Polish soldiers are now gone. The Russian military also continues its quite successful counter-artillery campaign:

Missile and air strikes launched at a hardware concentration near Druzhkovka railway station (Donetsk People's Republic) have resulted in the elimination of:

  • two launching ramps for U.S.-manufactured HIMARS multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS);
  • four armoured fighting vehicles for Czech-manufactured RM-70 Vampire MLRS;
  • over 800 rockets for MLRS;
  • six motor vehicles, and up to 120 Ukrainian personnel.

Within the counterbattery warfare, two launching ramps for U.S.-manufactured HIMARS MLRS, that were used for shelling settlements of the Donetsk People's Republic, have been detected and destroyed near Kramatorsk.

Three U.S.-manufactured M-777 artillery systems have been destroyed at their firing positions near Artyomovsk (Donetsk People's Republic), and Chervonaya Dibrova (Lugansk People's Republic).

Two Ukrainian fighting vehicles for Grad MLRS have been destroyed near Volchansk (Kharkov region) and Serebryanka (Donetsk People's Republic).

Two D-30 howitzers have been destroyed near Kamenskoye and Gulyaypole (Zaporozhye region).

Those are four HIMARS, three M-777, some Czech 'aid', 800 HIMARS missiles and some Ukrainian guns that were lost in just one day. That was probably more than the 'West' can deliver over the next months.

Even the New York Times notes that Russia is exhausting the Ukraine as well as its western support by simply throwing cheap stuff at it:

The Iranian-made Shahed-136 drones that Moscow has increasingly been relying on since October are relatively uncomplicated devices and fairly cheap, while the array of weapons used to shoot them out of the sky can be much pricier, according to experts. The self-destructing drones can cost as little as $20,000 to produce, while the cost of firing a surface-to-air missile can range from $140,000 for a Soviet-era S-300 to $500,000 for a missile from an American NASAMS.

This only confirms the point Alex Vershinin was making. Russia has cared for its resources while the Ukraine, and NATO, have wasted their stuff mostly in senseless frontal campaigns against well protected Russian troops.

Yves Smith of Naked Capitalism points out that Vershinin has left out the economic side of the war where the picture is as bad for Ukraine as it is on the ground:

Ukraine is dependent on the West to fund its government, giving new meaning to the expression “client state”. Ukraine’s GDP contraction is estimated to be on the order of 35-40% for 2022. Ukraine in November projected its 2023 budget deficit to be $38 billion. Mind you, that is for essential services and is likely to underestimate the cost and knock-on effects of dealing with Russia’s attacks on its electrical grid. Again, before the grid strikes, the IMF had estimated Ukraine’s budget needs at $3 to $4 billion a month. It’s an easy bet that that $38 billion funding gap will easily come in at more than $50 billion.

And paying for teachers’ salaries, pensions, road repair, hospitals, are not the sort of thing that enriches the military-industrial complex. This is a huge amount for the West. Euronews, in discussing the then estimated $38 billion hole, strongly hinted Ukraine would come up short: …

Yves Smith also points out that, as we predicted in March, the pro-Ukraine propaganda is not really fixing the war:

Last and not at all least, the success of Ukraine propaganda seems to be falling despite the media and politicians doing their best to create the impression otherwise. Lambert and I were both very much surprised to read that a recent poll of likely US voters (as in presumably politically engaged) found fewer than 1/3 thought Ukraine was winning the war.

Lastly to find out who will win this war we can point to the mid December interview the Ukrainian war leader General Valery Zaluzhny gave to the Economist.:

General Zaluzhny, who is raising a new army corps, reels off a wishlist. “I know that I can beat this enemy,” he says. “But I need resources. I need 300 tanks, 600-700 IFVs [infantry fighting vehicles], 500 Howitzers.” The incremental arsenal he is seeking is bigger than the total armoured forces of most European armies.

What Zaluzhny really says is that the war is lost if he does not get those resources. He knows well that is he will not receive them.

So how will Russia proceed towards the end game?

Dima of the Military Summary Channel discussed yesterday how two big moves, one up from the Mariupol area and one down west of Kharkiv, can cut all railroad lines that connect west Ukraine with the eastern frontline where some 80+% of the Ukrainian army is now deployed.

I agree that the move from the south will happen but I am less sure about the northern branch.


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The Ukrainian army, just like the Russian one, depends on railroads for medium and long range transport. Neither has enough trucks to move the big amount of supplies that are needed to support the war.

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To be able to supply its forces any Russian move must follow the rail lines and create some safety corridor left and right of them. Some railways will be damaged by fighting but Russia has special railroad regiments that are trained and equipped to do repairs under war conditions. The move from the south would go to Pavlovgrad (Pavlovhrad) while the move from the north would pass Kharkiv in the west and aim at Lozova. When both are taken the Ukrainian army at the eastern front will be completely cut off from the rest of Ukraine and, without supplies, will have to surrender or die.

Both are big 200 kilometer (120 miles) long moves that require significant amounts of forces. But after its mobilization and with volunteers Russia has 350,000 additional forces it can move in. 75 to 100,000 are sufficient for each push while the rest can keep the Ukrainian troops in the east very busy and fixed in their position.

Then comes the question of when.

Due to currently warmer than normal weather the ground in Ukraine is not yet frozen and the mud will return in March and April. That gives only a two months window to move forward. If I were the Russian commander I would probably wait and use the six dry months during the summer. But there are other criteria, like politics and economics, that will come into play and which may require an earlier move.

If the plan works the war will largely be over. Russian troops will be free to move anywhere in Ukraine with only little resistance. A move to retake Kherson and Odessa will then be a rather easy and short affair.

The big question is how the U.S. will respond. If the Ukraine falls the U.S. and NATO will have lost their war against Russia. That will cause serious political damage.

Thomas H. Lipscomb writes that war will be lost because it was badly planned and in a way that could never have changed its direction:

American military planning was once world class. But who would plan a proxy war against Russia, one of the acknowledged masters of artillery with far better air defense technology than any in the West, and then equip our puppet Ukraine with inferior weapons and only enough ammunition to last six months? And surely American planners couldn’t help knowing that there was no longer a manufacturing base for resupply, and NATO warehouses were practically empty?

This will have wide ranging consequences:

[T]he United States current leadership is a bunch of total idiots, blinded by ideology, arrogance and illusions of pursuing a “rule-based” global hegemony, an opportunity long passed, as our performance in this proxy war shows. The United States may have won the Cold War but it lost the peace. Its strategic thinking and its military is obsolete and configuration of both forces and equipment is based on assumptions from the past millennium. The battle for a Great Global Reset under a unipolar American hegemony has been lost as well. The World Economic Forum is now about as relevant as the Holy Roman Empire. All they can continue to do is terrorize the increasingly authoritarian states of the West with asinine policy proposals.

The attempt to destroy Russia prodded it to a burst of brilliant diplomacy and leadership by Putin and his team that has quietly established that the rest of the world prefers sovereignty and a multi-polar world. The post Cold War “Pox Americana” as Larry Johnson has called it, is over. Historians of the future will study this period of history with fascination. Few times in history has such immense change happened so fast.

The effect of losing the war will be noticed in global and domestic politics. 'Western' global standing will be degraded and the leadership of the war party will receive some well deserved bashing.

But will the U.S. let that happen? Can it allow itself to lose this war? Or will it escalate? Even when that is likely to only worsen its situation?

I have no idea yet how and who in Washington will decide on those questions.

Comments

I’m sure the timing is coincidental…
As the deaths of <100 Russian soldiers at New Year suddenly propels Ukraine back to the front of national news bulletins ….. there’s an announcement from Dept of Defence that Australia has committed to buy 20 U$ HiMARS for $1billion..
>>……”The launchers currently have a range of up to 300km, which is expected to increase with technological advances.
They also include a weapon-finding radar to detect and respond to land, air and maritime threats, which is being delivered by Australian company CEA.”

Twitter:
………§?…Australia invests over $1 billion to target….. Fish?
The government has also signed an agreement to buy Norwegian Naval Strike missiles for Australian warships next year.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/himars-missile-systems-new-weapons-for-naval-vessels-australia-purchase/95c4dcf8-5995-458f-8c48-ca7b99d7d3f3?ocid=Social-Nine

Defence Industry Minister Pat Conroy said the new purchases put Australia on the “cutting edge”.
“The Naval Strike Missile is a major step up in capability for our Navy’s warships, while HIMARS launchers have been successfully deployed by the Ukrainian military over recent months and are a substantial new capability for the Army,” he said.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 5 2023 7:43 utc | 201

As we hinted at last year, buying non-dollar currency through the Bank of Mexico is an American’s best hedge. Getting Chinese or almost any other non-dollar-zone nation’s currency provides the store of value absent in the dollar. Inflation is actually double what’s reported, and that erodes purchasing power if wages don’t keep pace.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 5 2023 5:08 utc | 185

Karloff – the best hope for Americans is to vote with their feet. Our ancestors did, we can too. It takes a few years of planning and investigation, but better a few years too early than 1 day too late.

Posted by: exile | Jan 5 2023 7:49 utc | 202

Julian #199

I wonder if they’ll just go the JFK route this year though – and perhaps try to clean up in the chaos afterwards.

That is possible but Turkey is a complex business. Currently Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is said to be bailing out Turkey economically and yet Erdogan is in bed with QATAR and moslem brotherhood that KSA detests. Perhaps the MB project could be quietly shelved as discussed in an earlier post I made from Syriana Analysis.
On the other hand the Israelis must be as furious as John Bolton that their proxy Kurds are to entirely evicted from north west Syria and perhaps throughout the entire border region with Turkey/Syria. If that goes ahead I expect the occupied White House exhibit frothing at the mouth and brain with lethal consequences.
Netanyahu has already listed major Israeli settlements to commence in the Syrian Golan Heights so I expect assassination, distraction, Israeli/Russian intrigues a dozen in 2023.
Beware that Erdogan’s successor might well be a very different creature than what you expect.

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Posted by: Rishat Rafailevich A | Jan 5 2023 7:59 utc | 204

As the deaths of <100 Russian soldiers at New Year suddenly propels Ukraine back to the front of national news bulletins ….. there’s an announcement from Dept of Defence that Australia has committed to buy 20 U$ HiMARS for $1billion..
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 5 2023 7:43 utc | 201

Now what does Australia of all places need MLRS systems for?
It will fight a land war with who/what? Kangaroos and emus? Maybe with HIMARS it will win this time, unlike in the 1930s…

Posted by: shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 8:00 utc | 205

shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 8:00 utc | 205
fight a land war with who/what? Kangaroos and emus?
…~You’re aware of the internet meme…. That Australia fought a War against emus…. And lost? ?
Kinda a true-ish tale from the early 1920s in Western Australia.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 5 2023 8:04 utc | 206

Now what does Australia of all places need MLRS systems for?

To protect their supreme Navy.

Posted by: Goingo | Jan 5 2023 8:15 utc | 207

I visited Germany in the spring of 2022. Was SHOCKED by the level of anti-Russian propaganda. Something you read about in reports from the Third Reich. Used a VPN to get actual info via the Web as most sites that report actual news were blocked, just as they would have been had the web existed in 1940.
Posted by: NewJerseyJoe | Jan 5 2023 0:06 utc | 101

You have to wonder where it will end this time.
With Napoleon it ended in Paris, with Hitler in Berlin. Maybe this time it ends in Brussels I guess?
But how many times do the Russians have to do this before they decide that this will be the last time? Because in order for it to end in Brussels, they will have to suffer another cataclysmic loss of life, otherwise they won’t bother, but the intention on the other side does seem to be to get that far.
I won’t go in details into what making sure this is the last time means, people can ponder that question on their own.
I will just give an example with the the Baltics. If you are in their positions — small, very weak countries, occupying a strategically vital for Russia location — the absolutely last thing you should be doing is stoking genocidal hatred against the big bear next door. Because if you do that, it may end up with the complete end of you. The bear actually had the chance to do that before, but it forgave you and only did some small-scale deportation to Siberia, quickly reversed. But if you keep going further and further back to outright Nazism — Latvia in particular is the second most Nazified place in the world after Ukraine, and the gap is getting smaller and smaller all the time — then at some point it may not be the good mild mannered uncle Putin in the Kremlin, it might be someone with a moustache and a truly hardened heart, and after the damage done to the bear in the recent war, then he may decide to solve the problem once and for all. And there will be at minimum no Latvia where it is now, quite possibly no Latvians either as this time it isn’t just small-scale deportation and perhaps it also isn’t just deportations.
That is where this all potentially ends. Or with human extinction as the other option.
So why stoke genocidal hatred against the Russians if you are in that position rather than maintain friendly brotherly relations. It’s not as if Europe has much to offer you — you can’t eat or heat your home with neoliberalism and financial fraud…

Posted by: shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 8:15 utc | 208

Australia is buying himars, tanks and other things to be part of war in Taiwan. They’ve publicly announced around March 2022 that they plan to join of the forces fighting China, search the news. Japan is doing the same thing. Germany has sent some forces in the region.
In less than 2 years the exact scenario from Ukr will repeat in Taiwan. Unless China switches sides, then they can keep Taiwan with the current status but all factories will be gone either way, it’s already lose less or lose more. Money from trade with China, by far the largest trade partner for Australia, buys nuclear subs and himars to be used against China. funny or what?
Also the talk about freezing ground in Ukr isn’t exactly what the problem is. They’ve retreated in best weather conditions for attack, you think they’ll attack in worst mud conditions? The problem is at the political level, in addition to idiots in general staff who messed up a lot of things. It’s not about weather

Posted by: rk | Jan 5 2023 8:23 utc | 209

I don’t think Russia wants to, or will, take control of all of Ukraine. So there will always be a non-NATO rump Ukraine for NATO to attack Russia-controlled areas from. If Russia gains control of all the areas that it wants to control and then declares victory, NATO will surely continue attacking.
Only when Europe thinks that it is in severe danger of having its cities flattened will this conflict end, in my view.
Posted by: D J G | Jan 5 2023 0:06 utc | 102

We have this discussion every day.
Precisely because otherwise there would always be a platform for attacks on Russia, the whole of Ukraine will have to be annexed and thoroughly denazified. Thoroughly, no Khrushchev amnesties this time.
Will it be? There is a possibility it won’t be, but that doesn’t change the cold hard geostrategic reality that it must be.
Full agreement on the need for Europe (and, even more importantly, the US) to feel truly scared though. Right no they are not.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 8:24 utc | 210

Bernd @1 says

“By the way, it seems recently the first lost of the T-90S was visually confirmed, a tank India had sent to Russia for modernization but was subsequently pilfered by the Russians.”


What is the source of your information? If this was true you’d have thought the CIA paid 5th columnist Indian media, from NDTV24×7 on the liberal end to the fascist owned WION, all of which uncritically regurgitate Amerikastani propaganda, would have been all over this. But there isn’t a hint of it anywhere in the news. So where did you find this information?

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 5 2023 8:28 utc | 211

I cannot quite grasp how everybody utterly fails to understand the underlying pathology of the USian culture. They are not doing it for the money — They already have all the money. They are not in it to grab up the resources of Asia — they have no hope of doing that. They already have vastly more wealth than they can imagine what to do with. The real motivation is fasciopathic personality disorder of the western super-rich. War is the force that gives them meaning — it’s their ‘religion’. They must have constant war (which they are not themselves fighting). The ability to cause the underlings to fight and die is the sacrificial ritual that gives them meaning.
Posted by: blues | Jan 5 2023 0:28 utc | 107

Sadly, while you might correct about the psychological factors, you are deeply mistaken about the resource situation.
The West is in deep s**t in terms of resources.
Europe barely has any.
The US is fast running out. Fracking was the last hail mary — there is nothing after that, we are down to source rock with it — and it is running its course now. Don’t confuse temporary abundance with actual wealth. That is like the person who won the lottery and is now on a shopping spree for Bentleys and Bugattis.
Take a look here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_natural_gas_proven_reserves
Last column is the reserves to production ratio. Notice something? It’s 14 years for the US, where it is now mostly fracked gas. For Iran, Qatar and Saudi Arabia it is over a century, for Russia it is 77 years, but none of those countries is fracking, and the largest shale plays in the world are actually in Russia.
It’s not that much different for oil, the US is down to 10-15 years R/P.
Then you have everything else on the list of minerals that Russia has, and the West does not.
Finally, we come to the most overlooked factor — food and global warming.
Russia is way up north, and historically it has been an agriculturally marginal land because of that, but it actually has a very large belt of fertile soils that will benefit from global warming. Meanwhile much of Europe and the US will become desertified and unproductive.
That is what the real battle is for.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 8:33 utc | 212

Outraged
On my blacklist for offensive gratuitous insulting and abusive ad hominem behaviour.
I just observed another post by him, repeating the behaviour. Specific to myself of course. I leave others to defend themselves.

Posted by: abrogard | Jan 5 2023 8:40 utc | 213

Full agreement on the need for Europe (and, even more importantly, the US) to feel truly scared though. Right no they are not.
Posted by: shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 8:24 utc | 210
On new years eve German TV talked about Ukraine, the scorpions sang live in Berlin “the wind of change” with changed text for ukraine, the defense minister went on the streets in the very first minutes of the year during fireworks to speak about Ukraine. They dig a huge trench around the Bundestag.
They are scared alright.

Posted by: Vikichka | Jan 5 2023 8:41 utc | 214

the absolutely last thing you should be doing is stoking genocidal hatred against the big bear next door. Because if you do that, it may end up with the complete end of you.
Posted by: shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 8:15 utc | 208

Because nato states are braindead puppets. That was the plan since the 90s. Find cannon fodder for a proxy war at all Russian borders. Now Finland included. The plan works great in Ukr, why not repeat it with other retards? Look at the news today:
“Elements from 155-mm high-precision cluster munitions BONUS of joint Swedish-French production (Bofors/Nexter Group) found in Donetsk”

Posted by: rk | Jan 5 2023 8:49 utc | 215

Also the talk about freezing ground in Ukr isn’t exactly what the problem is. They’ve retreated in best weather conditions for attack, you think they’ll attack in worst mud conditions? The problem is at the political level, in addition to idiots in general staff who messed up a lot of things. It’s not about weather
Posted by: rk | Jan 5 2023 8:23 utc | 209

I will risk being called a concern troll once again and expand on what you said.
The other day Lavrov is talking about how they are drawing up plans to disrupt the influx of weapons.
That is one of the most remarkable statements since the beginning of the war, specifically mentioning railways, tunnels and bridges, and yet the few people who even paid attention to it interpreted it exactly backwards. It wasn’t a positive at all, because of what revealed about the last year.
First, what does it mean that they are drawing up such plans now? Where were they in March in April when the weapons first started flowing in? Like, what level of incompetence is it to only realize you have to do it now?
Second, that is demonstrably not how it actually went. Because starting in April 2022 and up until some time around June-July there were such strikes:
1) The tunnel under the Carpathians did receive a Kalibr, but we never learned about the results of that, and apparently if there was any serious damage, it was quickly repaired. And the strike was never repeated
2) The Zatoka bridge south of Odessa was actually hit by several Kalibrs and was out of action for a while, but I think it was eventually repaired, and those strikes were again not repeated
3) One railway bridge over the Dnieper was in fact disabled
4) At some point around May they actually hit some rail infrastructure in Western Ukraine
5) This one was a minor event, but at some point in August or September, they did hit a bridge in Nikolaev. Not clear for what purposes as it didn’t destroy it, and that strike was also never repeated
At the time these looked like the beginning of a serious campaign to disable transport links, but ended up being just single strikes that didn’t do much in the grand scheme of things.
The important point here is that the line of thinking that Russia is now gearing up to disable the transportation infrastructure because it was only now that they realized the need for it is simply absurd.
Clearly someone in the military saw it had to be done from the start, thus those strikes early on. But they were never continued. Why?
Either someone higher up order them to stop or it fizzled out at the level of the military, for whatever reason, but in that case someone higher up should have ordered them to resume, and that wasn’t done either.
Again, why?
Third, not only did such strikes stop in the summer, but it now appears that the whole operation fell apart, just as the Ukrainians had fully mobilized, which is what resulted in the grand strategic maneuvers, regroupings, and difficult decisions in Kharkov and Kherson. The stories about contracts running out are well known now. And indeed, for a long time it was just Wagner, LDNR, and a smattering of regular forces on the front. It kind of still is like that when you think about it…
How was that allowed to happen?
Fourth, they aren’t fighting properly even now. Three months of strikes on transformers, but the 750-kV networks is still largely untouched, the railways network hasn’t really been hit (how many locomotive depots were hit?), and military logistics have not been disrupted as much as they should be. Because those take priority so if you want to block them, you are not going to do it with reducing the capacity by 50-60%. You need to knock it out entirely. And that hasn’t been done.
They are also still not hitting enemy force concentrations properly. There was finally some of that the last few days, but why wait until now? And it still definitely does not look like doing enough.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 9:06 utc | 216

Posted by: Down South | Jan 5 2023 4:31 utc | 173
Yes I think this is very true. I think the truth has reached all the way up to Putin. He and I think Surovikin made some comment somewhere (sorry, I’ve lost it) about welcoming all advice regarding military shortcomings. Excellent. Reading telegram reveals there’s been many of them indeed. Telegram from Ukraine is very revealing and we feel we should discount it because it is ‘enemy lies’ but when it matches complaints from boots on the ground on the Allied side it is very revealing.
A point, I think, that adds ‘awful’ weight to this is that most of the fighting has been done by DPR and LPR throughout this conflict and they’ve been at it for eight years. So they’d know much about what has to be done and how to do it you’d think. And it appears what they know has been disregarded in that case.
Or: they fought for eight years and learned nothing. Which explains why Kharkiv was not entrenched in depth or mined or prepared for could clearly be seen as possible breakthroughs.
If you blame that on the Oblast militias you have to find an excuse for the lack of oversight of the Russian command don’t you?
It was noteworthy that when Surovikin took over and visited Kherson he commended local commander saying some of them had performed very well by entrenching and such. I took that as a pointed reference to the performance just a short time previous of ‘local commanders’ in Kharkiv.
In sum the Russian (not the Allied, just the Russian) military seem to have performed very poorly from the beginning and throughout and that’s apparently been because of some pretty horrific shortcomings. All the way apparently, to corruption in the chain of supply to where ration packs were found to contain merely blocks of wood! That kind of thing.
So what I’m saying now is that horrific shortcomings have been detected in the Russian military and it is my hope that this long ‘pause’ in activities which has been going on since Kharkiv is going on because they are doing some radical reorganising which is reaching up and down the line everywhere and stretching out laterally to civilian suppliers and, doubtless, the oligarchs behind scenes there.
Learning. My hope is that they are learning and learning quickly. New battlefield tactics are required too. This is a new kind of warfare never seen before. When the enemy can see your whole disposition of forces and track your every move. That is one major difference. Very, very major. Traditional massed troops for attack are now merely targets, delectable targets for the enemy aren’t they?
The other major change is drones, of course. Robot soldiers if you like. Capable of doing almost anything. It is easy to envisage a battlefield arena totally dominated by drone and ECM warfare. No human beings venturing out there until they have settled the issues.
So my fervent hope is that the allies are currently coming to terms with those two major realities and will do a better job and a quicker job of it than the evil empire and lackeys can and will.
And, of course, come to terms with their military machine shortcomings. It is transparently pretty awful and has been all along. The much vaunted russophile ‘analysts’ (self styled I think) forecast continuall this or that ‘cauldron’ this or that ‘russian style deliberate retreat sucking the enemy in and then trap them’ this or that feint and so on. All of which turned out to be nonsense and not one of them predicted what did happen. Useless.
The authentic detail comes from only one place I think: Telegram. The soldiers posts from the lines. Forbidden by their commanders I suppose and for good reason but some gets out and that’s when we learn something of the truth. Hearing what they say, what their demeanour is, seeing the background of their videos and so on.
I think it is totally amazing how absolutely lacking in authentic facts we can be after all these months and all these millions of words from all these loquacious pundits in a world with all these smartphones etc. The military are doing a wonderful job of covering everything up.
I hope the allied military are doing an equally wonderful job of mending their deficiencies.

Posted by: abrogard | Jan 5 2023 9:08 utc | 217

The Russian offensive we are currently witness of. It is all they can do in light of superior weapons, mercenaries and intelligence assets that NATO has brought to bear at the front.
There cant be an offensive without massive casualties on Russian side because NATO sees every small move; Russia cant accumulate forces and cant supply them as lines will be instantly broken by precision artillery, rockets, UAVs etc. Those pincer movements were possible at the beginning but now are just a fantasy to keep morale high. NATO has had a lot of time to not only prepare defenses in depth but also to position many assets there. Capturing Ukraine is off the table, I must concede that NATO tactics are successful at this time (although at a high cost of ukrainian people).
Russia has unfortunately landed at a very vulnerable stage of the conflict where they dont have the means anymore to achieve their goals in the short term. Rearmament on both sides will not help at all as it will become evenly matched again.
Economically, there is damage on both sides and the one with the longest breath will win. The problem is that at that point nobody will give a fuck about this conflict anymore as other things will be more important.
Russia has lost the chance to solve their problem decisively in the beginning due to bad intelligence concerning the West and overconfidence. Now there will be a huge price to pay for that. Instead of showing the world that they indeed must be included in world matters at an even footing, they are now fighting a quagmire without any end in sight.
At the moment, Russia can only lose territory they gained and not win anything. I am still to see any evidence otherwise (spare me the propaganda please).

Posted by: alek_a | Jan 5 2023 9:20 utc | 218

Bakhmut Front Quick Update | Russian Advance Southwester & North Of Bakhmut
from Weeb Union War Updates: 1:40.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 5 2023 9:21 utc | 219

Posted by: abrogard | Jan 5 2023 9:08 utc | 217
Totally agree.

Posted by: alek_a | Jan 5 2023 9:25 utc | 220

@shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 9:06 utc | 216
They’ve used very limited resources and strikes since the beginning. I don’t know why, they probably expected Zely to surrender and that nato will stop unlimited supplies. Very stupid if they think that. Now, since the new regions are part of Russia, there is a lot more pressure on the idiots in the government to stop the daily attacks on civilians. There is daily shelling of cities and villages, civilian deaths, shooting at Belgorod, Crimea and other regions, a part of territory is occupied, great Baldie retreated losing even more territory, nato is supplying banned weapons. They’re becoming a new Syria, white helmets replaced by fake mercenaries, loss of natural resources. They can’t even get food exported for free, while Ukr exports work perfectly for natoland.

Posted by: rk | Jan 5 2023 9:39 utc | 221

IMHO – the Russian move will arrive later this month. How? We don’t know – but can surmise. Whichever way it transpires – it will be devastating and game-changing.
How does US/NATO react to this? We don’t know- but can only surmise. A Petraes ‘coalition of the willing’ – Polish leadership is clearly amenable to getting involved in Western Ukraine – this is dangerous, very dangerous. Delusions of the old Polish Empire still reign in Warsaw. Peace-keeping only? They might get away with it if they DON’T actually ‘legally’ fight Russians – rem that Poles remember Bandera and 100,000 dead Poles.
Present Ukrainian casualties est. 500,000 and 150,000 dead. Some truly shocking numbers expected by this April.
Only certainty is that the Ukrainian army in East will be soundly defeated – this is minimum end-game for RF since Feb 2022. IF it has to be done – it will be done. US/NATO is powerless to prevent it – and US/NATO has known this for quite some time. Soon, the world will know it.
All changed – changed utterly – as a poet once wrote.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jan 5 2023 9:44 utc | 222

David F @ 85 said in part; “One side in this conflict is fighting for their right to exist, the other is fighting for the right to plunder. Big difference between the two.”
Exactly, and simply stated. Thanks..
And IF, people can’t identify which side is which, you’re part of the problem…..
Posted by: vetinLA | Jan 5 2023 5:30 utc | 189
My very word. Part of the problem. Look at the quotes on Telegram from the Kiev Ukrainians in the trenches. They think THEY are ‘fighting for the right to exist’ they do.
They KNOW they are fighting on the land of their Donbas Ukrainian brothers. They know they are actually fighting those Ukrainian brothers. And yet somehow they’ve been indoctrinated so well they fight on wholly believing they are on their land and repelling a foreign invader.
Their only goal is to kill Russians – no mention of any reward in their for them. The killing is presumably enough.
When the killing of the Russians is complete then they occupy all the Donbas oblasts etc. and commence on killing their own brothers in reprisals and such. Is their only goal, only ambition, only direction !
Such an incredible totally reverse view of the situation. That’s why I see propaganda, information, as totally critical in this conflict and quite possibly capable of putting as stop to the whole thing: if the Kiev boys suddenly had the scales fall from their eyes..
Which is why I think every person on the outside really should be doing all they can to pass on the truth to these people. There should be a universal push from the ‘enlightened’ to pass the message on.
But just like the covid era there seems no enthusiasm for it. Much, much more enthusiasm for playing the armchair pundit and self preening ( and occasionally some bullying ad hominem from quite a few )..
And it surprises me no little that Russia itself hasn’t got an effective propaganda machine working on this.
That’s why I thin

Posted by: abrogard | Jan 5 2023 9:48 utc | 223

Posted by: The_Z.a.non | Jan 5 2023 9:31 utc | 221
I’m almost more convinced of B’s articles analysis, perception, and predictive acumen, by the rather embarrassing ravings of The_Z.a.non who appears to be increasingly unhinged, undoubtedly angered by the evidence as presented by B and other sources of severe attritional damage to the UAF mounts up.

Posted by: Gabriel in Ireland | Jan 5 2023 9:49 utc | 224

Russia isn’t going to go on an offensive, they don’t need to. NATO is the one who defined victory as needing territorial gain. Russia will let NATO continue to pour resources into Ukraine indefinately.
The Principals of Defense is how the Russian Military is modeled. Digging in and defending plays to historical and current strengths…it plays to the design of Russian military technology.
Enough of Ukraine was taken in the initial weeks, now NATO can try to take it back.
Western Mercenaries are limited in number, without a declaration of war, they will run out. The west is soft, beyond a small group, there just aren’t enough soldiers willing to die for something that doesn’t pertain to them.

Posted by: Haassaan | Jan 5 2023 9:55 utc | 225

shadowbanned #205

It will fight a land war with who/what? Kangaroos and emus? Maybe with HIMARS it will win this time, unlike in the 1930s…

Maybe its to mollify their refusal to purchase that useless ‘stealth’ bomber.
Maybe the anzacs are spoiling to invade the Solomon Islands ‘to protect them from China’.
Is Tasmania safe from Antarctic invasion these days?
The Russians have a research base there.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 5 2023 9:57 utc | 226

…. Russia isn’t going to go on an offensive, they don’t need to. NATO is the one who defined victory as needing territorial gain. Russia will let NATO continue to pour resources into Ukraine indefinately…..
Correct.

Posted by: Exile | Jan 5 2023 10:06 utc | 227

Why is their more uncomfortable questions than rational answers for Russia’s SMO performance?
Ask this dude: Chief of the General Staff, Army General Valery Gerasimov.
Surovikin appears to have been given exclusive command when Putin appointed him and much has changed. Perhaps there is a less than subtle shift underway.
Time will tell, and there appears to be plenty of that about while the international economic paradigm performs a mitotic division into more self sustaining cells.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 5 2023 10:10 utc | 228

abrogard #224

And it surprises me no little that Russia itself hasn’t got an effective propaganda machine working on this.
That’s why I thin

Comrade, please report to the AI service station and pick up a new battery.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 5 2023 10:14 utc | 229

A large number of Western special forces are going to Ukraine under the guise of mercenaries, and they arrive in well-organized groups.— DPR official
They first “retire” and then get transferred to Ukraine in organised groups of “volunteers”
https://t.me/azmilitary11/32788

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 5 2023 10:39 utc | 230

@ Karlof1 103 “forced by the decline of fossil fuels”
China’s economy is built off coal use. The West’s acceptance of climate change ideology has led to China securing more oil but especially coal at cheaper prices. Ourworldindata.org shows these energy trends and how China has grown its economy at the expense of the West. That answer is coal

Posted by: Goldhoarder | Jan 5 2023 10:50 utc | 231

@ Richard Steven Hack | Jan 5 2023 0:53 utc | 119
I stated my opinion about how this conflict can end. Either Russia takes all of Ukraine, which I don’t think it wants to do, or it is going to have to militarily confront NATO. I don’t see how this is self-contradictory.
How do you see the conflict ending? Why would NATO back off if Russia takes part, but not all, of Ukraine?

Posted by: D J G | Jan 5 2023 10:53 utc | 232

Estimate of AFU material losses, Dec 2022.
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/15605
I’d maintain that while every item in the list is important, single most important items are the anti air defense systems, which will create some more leeway for close air support and carpet bombing.
Another derivative of this of course would be denying Eurasian space for US satellites.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 5 2023 10:57 utc | 233

Posted by: bevin | Jan 4 2023 23:36 utc | 94 “The House stands adjourned until 8:00 p.m. this evening, after several rounds of voting left Kevin McCarthy no closer to becoming speaker.”
At some point a half dozen Republicans could vote for the Democrat, instead of the Republican and that would be over. Right now, the Democrat has move votes than the Republican.

Posted by: Bill Smith | Jan 5 2023 11:01 utc | 234

USUKIS + Soros have made Western Ukraine a community of Russophobia. Community opinion turns into community action and Western Nazi propaganda has morphed into war.
In 1986 I moved to what I thought would be a rural idyll for my family in Herefordshire, but I soon found what sort of community I had entered. British divorce law divides all wealth, including farmland between the divorced couple, and as a result nobody ever got divorced. The whole community just shagged around like sheep.
In this community the c o England vicar, the doctor, the solicitor, the hard-working neighbours, all accepted this frrevfor all as perfectly normal.
I now live in a Muslim.community where it is not socially acceptable to look at or greet a female neighbour. To use a metaphor from Christianity the tares and thistles are able eventually to choke the wheat.
Once a community is sick, everybody inside it is sick, and Ukraine is more sick than anybody outside can imagine, and USUKIS which created this sickness deliberately is also more sick than outsiders could possibly imagine.
Whatvhas happened in this SMO is that Russia has been presenting the combined evidence of Ukranian and Western societal deviance, support for Fascism, to an astonished world which still thinks the West is a normal society like theirs.
Russia can never win this war diplomatically until the rest if the world has seen the evidence of this disease of Racist Fascist , Naxi hate, that we outsiders thought no longer exists.
There is zero benefit in crushing a community of nutters while the rest of the world thinks the Ukrainians and West are just ordinary Joe’s like themselves.
Without the world Russia is powerless against this disease of the soul ofvthe West.
Be patient and give Vladimir Putinand Lavrov credit for the massive task they are undertaking, which is 100% for the crest of the world’s benefit.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 5 2023 11:03 utc | 235

shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 8:24 utc | 210
My point is that I don’t see how the wider conflict ends without Russia challenging NATO countries directly and militarily. Only a fairly imminent, believable threat of European cities being flattened will force NATO to back off.

Posted by: D J G | Jan 5 2023 11:07 utc | 236

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 5 2023 10:57 utc | 234 “denying Eurasian space for US satellites”
How? Looking back at 2022, how many satellites did the West launch compared to Russia?

Posted by: Bill Smith | Jan 5 2023 11:08 utc | 237

@ unimperator | Jan 5 2023 10:39 utc | 231
That’s an extremely inefficient & prompt way to destroy a huge’em, rather long & laborious financial & human capital investment & resource developed over many many years … in a mere instant, on the receiving end of a precise missile strike or massive overlapping artillery barrage, vainly, as unsupported cannon-fodder line infantry, for … nothing.
No arms materiel or ammo shipments that mean more than diddly-squat though. Such winning, not.
@ shadowbanned, abrogard & alek_a
Cannot even hold to your Kumbayah faux positions for more than two or three posts. Now back to the, woe is me, all is lost, incompetent Russkies, cannot win, can only lose ground, revisionist ISW narrative of last ten months, faux concern stacked on faux concern, and of course, vacuous thread spamming.
abrogard, your false projection, false assertions & aspersions do not erase the content of your posting record. Updating your blacklist & checking it twice for submission to Santa next Christmas hey ? Oooooooh. Ho ho ho. How’s Arestovish doing ?
‘Fellas’ be circle jerking, yet again.
However, here we are … OUN-B Nazi Banderastan & the sociopathic/psychopathic mafiosi War Criminals currently looting it whilst pretending to govern it, along with the National Corps & die-hard Hitlerite Nazi’s all down the line, are undoubtedly now on their pagan Death Ride to a non existent Valhalla. Y’all must be so very thrilled.
Cheers !

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 5 2023 11:22 utc | 238

@208 shadowbanned You mean you can’t heat an entire country’s homes or feed all those people. If you are a corrupt politician you can have very large foreign bank accounts and multiple homes globally. You just have to be willing to sell your country out

Posted by: Goldhoarder | Jan 5 2023 11:22 utc | 239

I’d maintain that while every item in the list is important
Posted by: unimperator | Jan 5 2023 10:57 utc | 234
This is why it is called demitarization. Ukraine was demilitarized in 3 days, now NATO is being demilitarized. The only question is whether the US can build a bigger war economy than Russia, but it’s doubtful because Russian weapons are designed to just work at all conditions, where US weapons are designed to be just very expensive. So this ends when the economy of the west cannot afford weapon production any longer, probably 2024 or 2025.

Posted by: Vikichka | Jan 5 2023 11:25 utc | 240

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jan 5 2023 1:38 utc | 137 “6X6 wheeled AMC10RC”
These things would be a useful upgrade for a few of those territorial defense brigades. It would give them some light armor / mobile artillery. Added to the territorial defense brigades stationed along the Belarus border it would help slow down any Russian advance out of Belarus while Ukraine moved other reinforcements to the area. In addition because that border is quiet, units along it have plenty of time to conduct training / integrate this new equipment into their operations.

Posted by: Bill Smith | Jan 5 2023 11:25 utc | 241

if, and i underline the word “if”, the usa will escalate in a direct war with russia with great risk if nuclear escalation, how secure will be the foreign financial assets stored in usa? i know that its cynic to think about the money in front of civil victims of a nuke, but i think in that case these trillions would disappear or be unavailable for long time. adding this to other economic risks implied by a direct war, i think that the depletion of combactive force would be very very fast

Posted by: giandavide | Jan 5 2023 11:27 utc | 242

My point is that I don’t see how the wider conflict ends without Russia challenging NATO countries directly and militarily. Only a fairly imminent, believable threat of European cities being flattened will force NATO to back off.
Posted by: D J G | Jan 5 2023 11:07 utc | 236

Yes, I know.
Worse, Putin ran his mouth too much about red lines and then didn’t cash the checks he wrote.
The consequence of which is that now you see open discussion in the West about outright war with Russia because they are not scared anymore.
The moment Western weapons started flowing there should have been a massive missile strike on all Western assets in Ukraine, total destruction of all entry points (use small nukes if need be to e.g. seal tunnels, dig huge craters on roads and railways, etc.; it can be done with minimal civilian casualties and very little contamination, plus it will send a very clear message), shooting down of AWACS planes and drones around Crimea, etc.
As a start.
After the Moscow was sunk, ships carrying tanks, IFVs, etc. to Europe should have been fair game.
And after they started openly talking about the need to assassinate Putin and dismembering Russia, and even more so after they started going after Russian officials that happened to be in range, the people who did so should have been fair game too.
The only ones who have been dealing with the empire properly are the Iranians and NK, and as a result what you see there is that the US is running its mouth a lot but does not dare strike directly.
Meanwhile Russia is under daily kinetic attack by the US.
The logical end point of which is that they will do something really stupid and will leave the Russians no choice. And then we all die…

Posted by: shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 11:29 utc | 243

At the start of this SMO Gove created a voluntary scheme for British people to house Ukranian refugees. There was a good reason for the British government to outsource this project. They didn’t want o be associated with the possible toxic Russophobic Pro- Nazi opinions of Ukranian refugees.
This SMO is a war against a toxic culture long nurtured by the West. Tou cannot fight a toxic culture by war. Russia has been tirelessly exposing the reality of the dark side of USUKIS . Simply to destroy people would be pointless without explains why they were doing it to the world community.
My disappeared comment tried to explain why you cannot fight a toxic mind-set without creating a community of good mindset which agrees with your project.
Otherwise the world community would just label uou with Usukis accusations of killing innocent people for colonial purposes. The impatient comments here seem to think Russia can wipe out Usukus fascism by wiping out Ukranian conscripts.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 5 2023 11:32 utc | 244

Wow, a real massed offensive by the NATO bots this morning (UTC). I’ve never seen so many massed together, outnumbering anyone else. b must be really getting to them.
Personally I think the Russian strategy looks very much like the one they conducted in Syria – though I haven’t heard others say this. Long periods of little movement, then a leap when conditions are perfect for swift victory with little loss. Of course all the idiot bots can do is to claim that no movement on the Russian side means defeat and loss. It may be that this winter, there is not going to be a hard freeze, what with climate change, but also southern Ukraine doesn’t freeze like northern Ukraine. It may be that the right conditions will not emerge until the summer.

Posted by: laguerre | Jan 5 2023 11:35 utc | 245

Cannot even hold to your Kumbayah faux positions for more than two or three posts. Now back to the, woe is me, all is lost, incompetent Russkies, cannot win, can only lose ground, revisionist ISW narrative of last ten months, faux concern stacked on faux concern, and of course, vacuous thread spamming.
Posted by: Outraged | Jan 5 2023 11:22 utc | 238

No, I actually don’t at all think the Russians are incompetent.
Sure, some mistakes were made out of incompetence which led to a few embarrassing tactical defeats, but that would be the case with every military. It’s a war, shit happens.
Overall the Russian military is anything but incompetent.
The anemic way the war has been fought is most likely the result of constraints imposed by political leadership.
What exactly those constraints are and what the reasons for them are is the key question.
It ranges from saving the world from nuclear holocaust because on the other side there are some real lunatics that are itching to press the button, to being too cowardly to act decisively, to oligarchs’ interests overriding military necessities (there were rumors floating around that the railways are still intact for such reasons, and, of course, gas and oil have been flowing through Ukrainian pipes all this time, and neither was Europe shut off cold turkey already in March as it should have been), to the suspicion that there is outright treason at the highest level.
Nobody knows.
And that is the point — the mere existence of these suspicions is having very corrosive effects. If you are sitting in the trench expecting to be carbonized at any moment, it sure helps with morale to know that the expenditure of your blood, sweat, tears (and potentially limbs) will not be nullified by the next goodwill gesture, and that everything is being done to eliminate that imminent carbonization threat.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 11:39 utc | 246

Personally I think the Russian strategy looks very much like the one they conducted in Syria – though I haven’t heard others say this. Long periods of little movement, then a leap when conditions are perfect for swift victory with little loss.
Posted by: laguerre | Jan 5 2023 11:35 utc | 244

That’s not a good scenario at all.
First, a third of Syria is still not liberated. And it could have been a long time ago. A massive missile attack will evaporate all those US bases in one day, and it would be perfectly legal under international law — Russia is there by official invitation from the legitimate Syrian government, the US is the invader — so there is nothing to complain about.
Second, Syria isn’t anywhere close to the historic heart of Russian civilization and you can’t do daily strikes on the major Russian cities from there. From Ukraine you can, and it is only going to get worse from here on.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 11:44 utc | 247

Soledar and Bakhmut are liberating.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eqYOmY12YHU&feature=youtu.be
A good review and forecast of next stage of the Russian advance beyond these villages.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 5 2023 11:47 utc | 248

Fortress America: This EVIL inside of the United States is headed to a Nuclear Disaster.
The established powers got caught at he beginning of the pandemic( I knew, not one billionth of a doubt)
and they killed a black man called Floyd (something) and the White Supremacy( People in power) used the Race Card, the police is wrong and they created a movement that deflect attention from COVID to a movement of helping a blackman. Created an organization, black lives matter, and changed the energy of the COVID HOAX AND FRAUD in another direction temporarily.
This is a Spiritual world and we all came in and we will all leave at some point.
It is coming down for the betterment of society.
This is what I’ve have seen through my mind eye, third eye while I lived in Poland some years back.
As I lay my head on the couch, fully conscious and awake, I closed my eyes, I saw many nuclear bombs going off many aircraft carries on fire. I called out to my friend in the apartment and said what I saw to take notes.
It is not going to end as most think. Evil do exist and it being dealt with.
We came on the planet to learn and it seems that humanity is regressing. We LIE, STEAL, ROB, KILL, MURDER
DESTROY ETC., Where is the LOVE=CARE, Not the American organization called Care, that’s another story.
If the people can get the truth of any issue they can change the course of the American political system, unfortunately LIES

Posted by: jahi sami | Jan 5 2023 11:47 utc | 249

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 5 2023 0:29 utc | 108
You are quite wrong about German business. You are probably thinking of the days when German banks held large stakes in German industrial companies and through cross-holdings had captive banking customers throwing off dividend streams to make the German Keiretsu function. That is long long gone, sadly.
German banks are financially weak having failed at financial speculation. German corporations are owned by Vanguard or Black Rock or Fidelity or KKR. The Leader of the Opposition CDU in Germany is Friedrich “BlackRock” Merz but funnily enough the Greens and SPD fail to highlight his alignment with US Moneybags which a Left-Wing regime would have done in the past.
In short Uniparty runs Germany.
German business long ago detached itself from German soil to be footloose capitalists at home in China or USA or Brazil or UK or even Russia. Much of German business runs its taxes through Irish Offshore Shells based on the Dublin Waterfront. Others such as Siemens traditionally ran everything over a Holding in Switzerland.
Even Medium companies SMEs have long since ensconced themselves in Asia. So much of what passes for “value-added” in Germany is carried out outside Germany. Zeiss does not manufacture binoculars in Germany but sells “German design”
German business has reacted decades ago to the Green Neo-Pagan Cultism and simply shifted investment to more attractive locations retaining tax-writeoffs inside Germany and keeping enough of a workforce to be able to blackmail politicians when headcount reductions might be in the offing……….
Look even at Rheinmetall making its fancy weapons – even the cannon on the Abrams/Leopard MBT – it is held by BlackRock and mainly US investors.

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jan 5 2023 11:54 utc | 250

Well the Brits and Yanks in April of ’45 managed to holocaust somewhere in the neighborhood of 150,000 individuals in the non-military but historical and artistic heritage city of Dresden.
This old chestnut again !! Dresden “non-military”??????? In your dreams. You should look at Sachsen and see where it is !
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albertstadt#König-Albert-Kaserne
Dresden was nothing other than a collation of major barracks including Waffen-SS. It was where the forces for the invasion of the USSR were assembled. It had at least 10 major garrisons..
Dresden was MILITARY from 18th Century at least……….it sits at the junction with Czech and Poland………
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geschichte_Dresdens
There were at least 110 factories producing armaments……..it had the German optics industry……it was one of the largest concentrations of German Military in the Reich

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jan 5 2023 12:07 utc | 251

If I was b and had this level of comments from the posters, I’d retire the blog and take up knitting.
And people wonder why the West is sinking into oblivion. Just look at the level of logic they’re capable of. This is why Biden is President. He fits right in.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jan 5 2023 12:08 utc | 252

So, Great Winter Offensive now happening in summer, maybe? The lights are on across Ukraine, and Europe is not freezing. The russians are reporting fantasy casualties, 400 dead ukrainians in Bakhmut a day is pure bullshit, but hey, so much winning!

Posted by: Fnord73 | Jan 5 2023 12:13 utc | 253

Why are my comments being blocked?

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 5 2023 12:15 utc | 254

Long periods of little movement, then a leap when conditions are perfect for swift victory with little loss.
Posted by: laguerre | Jan 5 2023 11:35 utc | 244
Victory in Syria is a distant dream. They have US bases, have lost 80% of their oil and there is still war. If the government collapses for some reason, like a tomahawk, Russia will be asked to leave, not US.

Posted by: rk | Jan 5 2023 12:18 utc | 255

On Craig Murray’s blog we found that somebody else is able to post comments using my IP address. If anybody has posted something offensive using my IP address and moniker, this is just the same old tricks they have been doing for years.
Sabrun Jameel. / patience is beautiful.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 5 2023 12:23 utc | 256

Rk 255
Russia will be asked to leave.
In your dreams.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 5 2023 12:26 utc | 257

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 5 2023 11:22 utc | 238
I am just being realistic. How realistic are you? Based on what data – that is the crucial question and not the validity of your thought.
And BTW, not all is lost. It is a stalemate between NATO and Russia at the moment. It can change. But it can also last for years.
Also one more thing. Many say that this conflict is existential for Russia. It is not. It is existential for the West since it will become chaos in short order if the narratives go down. Even if parts of the narratives go down, the whole house goes down.
That is the vulnerability of NATO at the moment. Russia’s vulnerability is her lack of commitment as the danger from NATO at the doorstep (the motivation) is far more abstract than the motivation of the other side.
Yes I am venting frustration with the errors that Russia made in the beginning i.e. massively underestimating Western resolve and power. It costs them a lot at the moment, getting out of that predicament.

Posted by: alek_a | Jan 5 2023 12:34 utc | 258

What a senseless tragedy this conflict. My question, “Cui Bono” (for whose benefit)? I follow Tom Luongo and his position is the “Davos” crowd (European Generational Institutions of Wealth & Capital). And what is the impact of the breakdown in moral? Who wants to be the last Ukrainian soldier to die for a war that can’t be won? In Vietnam – this question led to the revolt of the combat troops and “fragging” incidents.

Posted by: PaPa | Jan 5 2023 12:44 utc | 259

Posted by: Bill Smith | Jan 5 2023 11:08 utc | 237
It’s most likely a long and wide effort and it would most likely require China to participate. But it can be done with such a joint effort. It would take a long time to reduce number of US satellites, as they violate the treaty with each passing orbit.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 5 2023 12:51 utc | 260

Posted by: alek_a | Jan 5 2023 12:34 utc | 258
If Russians can destroy or suppress air defense systems, carpet bombing will make a world of difference on the fronts. Today saw a picture of a long train with loads of FAB-500 bombs heading somewhere, probably air bases.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 5 2023 12:55 utc | 261

@ D J G | Jan 5 2023 10:53 utc | 233
How do you see the conflict ending? Why would NATO back off if Russia takes part, but not all, of Ukraine?
A few things that might be important, along the lines.
NATO/US in Ukraine is tightly embedded with and interlinked to Zelensky, his government, entourage and UAF.
This conflict basically gave a reason for NATO to exist, marrying it to Ukraine until the death do them apart.
There are NATO troops in Ukraine operating complex systems, SAS is definitely on the ground since the day one, plenty of real and fake mercenaries doing the heavy lifting too, while being decimated as well as their Ukrainian hosts are.
This can go on for some time, but it cannot go forever.
What we are witnessing now is a slow but (long awaited, but already happening) combined RF offensive/grind. Why wait for some ideal weather
conditions, as in this sort of war might be irrelevant?
I see Soledar and Bakhmut as done and gone to RF in a few weeks if not sooner, with Seversk and a great deal of Donbass falls to RF next.
Ukrainian/NATO Army will be defeated there, and its remains will run to some Dnieper reserve positions, fundamentally weakened to the point where they cannot fight, let alone defend.
It should be very clear that RF is indestructible and will win, cheap and clean or expensive and messy. To them, what matters is to win.
West is uncapable of such choices, because of – reasons.
What might happen, better sooner than later, is a breakthrough in a false narrative, within the whole West, and it would be a crucial major event.
At the moment, and that is the fact – majority of the people in the West really believe that Ukraine is winning and NATO is strong, while weapons provided are winning factor.
They are not, and it is just a placebo.
Imagine the bitter truth coming out suddenly and having the media deal with it. A sheer mess. Alle gegen alle.
Every conflict ends with a settlement, but I think this one will end under RF terms as a request for capitulation/concession of Ukraine and NATO.
I doubt that RF is going for a humiliation, as that is not their style. NATO/US humiliated themselves, and it will be acknowledged, sooner or later and at the cost.
Maybe RF will be not so radical as insisting on a request to NATO to go back to 1997 borders. That was over the top request, but might be as realistic as a consequence of an acknowledged defeat.
Politically, main NATO countries in Europe cannot take such weight and apparent public pressure that will emerge out of it.
And that will be the beginning of the end of it all, heads will roll across EU space.
How to deal with such debris remains to be seen, but it won’t be pretty or easy.
As for how will US cope with it? This might be requiring an Auto da Fe-istic process over Biden and his entire administration.
As for a territory conquest, there, I am unsure that RF wants to take the ravaged and smoking ruin called Ukraine. Too expensive and unwise.
Let the “wise people on the West” deal with it. They did, so far and we see the result. Bravo.
Overall, nobody knows how bad and how far this will go, as we can only assume and interpret it the best we all can, but some things do stand its ground and there are just cold facts.

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 5 2023 13:02 utc | 262

Excellent summary..!
Problem is, rather than break up of NATO the effect will probably be that the US will get what Trump wanted. That is increased military spending by NATO countries. Especially now they have got rid of their old outdated stock. I fully expect an announcement that NATO countries will increase the GDP spending on their military.
For me, that is why it really important Russia finishes this job properly and not half arsed. Goes all the way in Ukraine.

Posted by: Derek Henry | Jan 5 2023 13:03 utc | 263

@ alek_a | Jan 5 2023 12:34 utc | 258
Define your version of realistic. Based on what data ? OMG. ‘Tis not my ‘thought’, ’tis analysis & assessment of all available credible data & reports, ongoing. Dispassionate, objective, rational, informed … analysis & assessment. Not Propaganda/Psyops narrative.
There is no stalemate. Sleeper wake.
The Ukraine & AFU military is on its knees & will in all probability collapse by mid to end of February, even under current situ.
It is indeed existential for RF because failure means breakup/dismemberment, loss of sovereignty, vassal status. You should know this.
You are not venting frustration, merely yet more fraudulent FUD, misrepresentative BS, & clearly willfully ignorant, faux or otherwise. Or only paying superficial attention & ‘thought’ ?
@ Bill Smith | Jan 5 2023 11:25 utc | 241
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@ shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 11:29 utc | 243
@ shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 11:39 utc | 245
@ shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 11:44 utc | 246
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Posted by: Outraged | Jan 5 2023 13:06 utc | 264

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 5 2023 12:51 utc | 260 “violate the treaty with each passing orbit”
What treaty is that? And do the Russian satellites violate the same treaty when they pass overhead of the US or Western countries aligned with the US?

Posted by: Bill Smith | Jan 5 2023 13:08 utc | 265

“It should be very clear that RF is indestructible and will win, cheap and clean or expensive and messy. To them, what matters is to win.”
So will to win will overcome logistics? Very Germany-43 thinking there. And Bakhmut falls within a week because… reasons?

Posted by: Fnord73 | Jan 5 2023 13:15 utc | 266

The merciless heavy shelling of ordinary people in Donbass continuously for weeks and weeks is part of the Russian plan, right?
Best to ignore it.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Jan 5 2023 13:16 utc | 267

unimperator | Jan 5 2023 12:51 utc | 260
There is no practical solution to those many thousands of satellites. They can be blocked without destruction by jamming, lasers and other emitters that blind them.
There will be new options once the Zeus nuclear tug is finished, in theory by 2025. With so much power it can use lasers or simple mechanical ways to break them, working 24/7.
But eventually the enemy will do the same. So the easiest solution is to send more satellites, match the numbers.
Many of the satellites nato now uses against Russia were launched by Russia. Lots of problems for a few dollars.

Posted by: rk | Jan 5 2023 13:16 utc | 268

The USA political and military leadership, across the board, appears to me to be on the CCP payroll. And everything is proceeding according to plan on both sides of this Ukrainian diversion.
Posted by: Davej | Jan 4 2023 20:02 utc | 20
Almost always the case, anyone who cites “CCP” ends up being some flavor of neocon. The Communist Party of China is the CPC. The other appellation is short for the CCCP, USSR in Russian language Cyrillic, and is a handy reminder of many years of malign propaganda.

Posted by: Tedder | Jan 5 2023 13:27 utc | 269

@ whirlX
Great summary…
There are currently public outcry in RF for total mobilization.
Eight years was long enough time for population of Ukraine to realize the great dangers ahead and open their eyes, in order to predict what is coming. For NATO and US, Ukraine is a simple tool to get the job done and disposed of later.

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Jan 5 2023 13:30 utc | 270

It is not denied that Russians have overwhelming advantage over Ukraine in all aspects and may successfully annex large parts of Ukraine before eventual ceasefire, but U.S. (the real war-wager) objectives seem to have been achieved right from the get-go —
1. Provoking Putin was successful, and will result in large Russian loss of resources in order to meet the war effort.
2. Weapons testing for manufacturers + large profits accumulated.
3. Some successful sanctioning against Russia accomplished, resulting in massive profits for oil companies.
4. Fortifying EU’s dependence on the U.S.
In reality, the U.S. has successfully sacrificed a pawn of theirs, viz., Ukraine, for a bigger objective of more global control. Though the excellent observer Bhadrakumar mentions one of U.S. objectives as being to hurt Putin’s approval ratings — it seems that the opposite has been the case, as a recent poll shows.

Posted by: Lone Druid | Jan 5 2023 13:31 utc | 271

As far as cutting railroad logistics I would point out those are stationary targets that could be “droned to death.” No need to march an army just to stop the trains.

Posted by: Tusky | Jan 5 2023 13:36 utc | 272

How it would look like in the media if Russia “wins” — that’s not even a problem. Whatever the outcome, the spin doctors will make sure it spins the American way — that’s their job, and they have a long record of doing it very well.

Posted by: Lone Druid | Jan 5 2023 13:42 utc | 273

SAS is definitely on the ground since the day one
Wow ! I’m bowled over !
Total strength of entire SAS = 900 soldiers
Predominantly Paratroopers – operated in Afghanistan having to use Reservists
Why don’t you apply ?
https://apply.army.mod.uk/roles/infantry/sas-reserve

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jan 5 2023 13:47 utc | 274

I am thinking about the US 2024 elections and I have concluded that if there is any time for the United States to lose this war, it is now, before memories of the loss become a political liability for Mr. Biden or whoever is picked to replace him.
I am remembering two lost wars that fell out of the American memory rather quickly. The first was the retreat from Afghanistan in 2021. Not even the conservatives give a tinker’s damn about Afghanistan anymore.
The second was Bush I’s victory over the Iraqis in the first Gulf War. You would have thought that being a war winner would have guaranteed him victory in the 1992 election, but after 18 months no USAian gave a damn about that war either.
Of course, Biden might decide that he needs to wrap this up with a win (or something he can call a win) before 2024…but that decision will not belong to him alone.

Posted by: Ursula Zandt | Jan 5 2023 13:47 utc | 275

I have three quick interrelated threads to comment on 1 -unavoidable bias; 2 -“And people wonder why the West is sinking into oblivion. Just look at the level of logic they’re capable of. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jan 5 2023 12:08 utc | 252” Oh so true Richard; 3 – escalation, who’s in control?
Our own individual understanding of the world around us is determined by parents, peers, education, culture, life experiences, changing situational circumstances, personal moral values, and access to information (of which much is in a controlled and manipulated environment), with the result forming opinions and judgments are shaped by inherent biases that are extremely difficult to discard because much of that bias forms the planks on which we have built who we are.
The consequences of this are complex but certainly result in reacting very negatively when our foundation planks (beliefs or perceived understanding of reality) are challenged producing some very extraordinary articulations that defy facts, even from very intelligent people, accepting suppositions from a cultural perspective without realizing we are, and limiting our ability to accept what I would describe as “other’ on its own honest terms. Western society appears to be trying to replicate the outcome of the Dark Ages in which education and knowledge were limited by the Church as a form of control hindering critical thought and originality. I agree with your sentiment Richard but don’t be too hard on some because what seems simple and obvious to one is not to another.
This leads me to the last thread of escalation with many commentators around the world expressing an almost universal Western bias that ignores both factual information and the “other” who have clearly articulated their stated position, situational awareness, and intentions based on what the West does. While Russia does not want escalation it is ready for it because that is what it expects. This is not a case of will America escalate because that is what it is doing and is now clearly an active participant. This is a case of what Russia decides to do to accomplish what it sees to ensure its security in the long term which is being done at both a military level and a coordinated international response.
The real driver here is Russia which became a reality in February last year. While America appears to be, or presented as being, able to decide its level of engagement that ability was lost when they undermined the perceived sanctity of the US dollar – game over and both Russia and China know it. Every stupid act of America is trying to uphold a failing cancerous capital construct. America is reacting, it has little control over the outcome other than to make things worse while it can or decide to join the majority of humanity.
The military action will be over quickly compared to the bigger changes that are now forming, which when viewed through the lens of trends, which are difficult to reverse when momentum has built up, are clearly heading towards the breaking of the US dollar dominance in which the world paid for the US Armed Forces.
A side note for anyone wondering why Australia is America’s BITCH in the Pacific and why we will buy the HIMARS, it’s quite simple, we don’t have a choice if we want a functioning economy, a working communication system, or an operational military. Just to drive this point home, every accounting program and organizational information and record system used by businesses and at all government levels requires the Microsoft operating system. Turn it off and we are stuffed. No war is needed. Has anyone ever wondered why the Australian dollar improves every time we do something stupid and totally unnecessary which is NOT in our national interest?

Posted by: MJK | Jan 5 2023 13:52 utc | 276

Sorry about the bold type, the post didn’t respect the HTML as placed.

Posted by: MJK | Jan 5 2023 13:54 utc | 277

Posted by: shadowbanned | Jan 5 2023 9:06 utc | 216
The point has been made many times that the aim is to destroy the Ukrainian forces. Why does the mountain need to go to Mohammed when Mohammed can be persuaded to go to the mountain?
The entire Ukrainian army, what is left of it, is now in the far east, with no further mobilisations possible. Now seems like a good time to burn the bridges behind them.

Posted by: Tim | Jan 5 2023 13:57 utc | 278

Ukraine isn’t losing. Putin’s war is a dog’s breakfast and he was utterly unprepared for the kind of war Ukraine had been training to fight. Ukraine is doing well, and the big mobilization will yield an Army with the equivalent combat power of a street gang.

Posted by: Quartermaster | Jan 5 2023 14:00 utc | 279

Since USUKIS believe that wars can be won by lies, intelligence is now a massive business. The trolls here this morning clearly hate the fact that we can see through their lies. If war is anything like the police, most modern police work involves spying and a very small number patrolling the streets. Hence Nato casualties so far will be limited .
In the meantime , there is a propaganda
war to be won by Russia on behalf of sanity against the insanity of USUKIS Neo-nazism. The US can use Russian military success as evidence of Colonial Intervention, which deeply undernines the propaganda war against Nazi insanity.
Those who are frustrated by Russia’s kilitary insctivity should hold on to the damage that Empire does to Russian reputation every time they win a battle for territory. It is a thankless task to be defeated in the propaganda war by winning the real war.
The US creates the illusion for every war they fight , of having lost. To do otherwise would remove any trust.
Russia has to ask the world in which of the many wars they have lost or even had to completely destroy their own proxies, they have lost the ambition of veery defeated citizen to come to live in Europe or the US.
Propaganda is evil stuff to combat. Why would Russia lose its world reputation just to win back a country that they have already downgraded to a buffer zone. Don’t tell.me Kruschev was drunk . Not all drinkers lose brain or body functionality when they are drunk.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 5 2023 14:09 utc | 280

RIA News (https://t.me/rian_ru/190534): drunk foreign mercenaries killed 3 Ukrainian soldiers at a checkpoint in Nikolaev oblast.
https://t.me/denatofication/4667

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 5 2023 14:17 utc | 281

Here in the US, while the state owned media here isn’t outright saying Ukraine is winning they are implying the Russians are losing. Every other day another propaganda piece hits claiming a shadowy group of pro-western people are ready to take out Putin and of course that will never happen. Russia’s national unity has had waivered since day 1. Putin isn’t going anywhere. I keep hoping the Ukie military will take out Zelensky as the situation gets more desperate.

Posted by: Peter Kurten | Jan 5 2023 14:22 utc | 282

@ Quartermaster
Nobody say that Ukraine is losing. Even RF doesn’t say Ukraine is losing. Ukraine is doing well indeed in current circumstances. In fact it is hard to believe how much spirited resistance Ukraine was able to put out to this day. Time will tell. We all watching

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Jan 5 2023 14:25 utc | 283

To begin with the disgusting display of the US Congress giving the phallic piano playing pervert Zelensky a standing ovation is proof of decades of American cultural brainwashing going back to the British deploying Murder Inc. to assassinate JFK. All the wars and suffering that has happened since can be attributed to that tragic day. The truth of “what” was behind (not necessarily “who”)JFK’s murder can say much as to why there is death and destruction in Ukraine today. As to the attack on the reservists barracks, well that was the AFU driving under the influence of British and American intelligence. There was no military value to this “terrorist attack” unlike the Russian response that destroyed hard military targets. Expect more acts of this NATO type of escalation on behalf of a dying financial system. The West does not have the industrial base to wage war nor does it intend to ever develope a truly physical economy. The dying west is committed to cyber warfare and AI warfare. Expect this to be used against China at an increased level than what is being done at present. Helga Zepp LaRouche, as her late husband Lyndon LaRouche, was and is right that the new system predicated on a “harmony of interests” paradigm is within reach.

Posted by: et baker | Jan 5 2023 14:29 utc | 284

b great job as always, only a couple of disagrees.
“The effect of losing the war will be noticed in global and domestic politics. ‘Western’ global standing will be degraded and the leadership of the war party will receive some well deserved bashing.” ……. Mmm, there was not a political price for Afghanistan debacle, seems accountability system in US is broken.
And while I agree with most of the rest of article quoted, when was the last time the “world class American military planning” produce a serious and lasting victory? Unless against a completely unequal opponent and even those times. Asking, I don’t know. Even WWII seemed to have many mistakes.
Actually now in fact they seem to have improved, overwhelming with all the weapons thin air money can buy.

Posted by: Battenmountain | Jan 5 2023 14:31 utc | 285

I’m a little tired today (my girlfriend claims that means I’m about to drop dead of exhaustion, which is ridiculous) so I have nothing to contribute right now, but if you want to check my comic strip, it’s been updated. Good night.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 5 2023 14:31 utc | 286

Great read , thanks b.
I briefly commented previously that both the midnight missiles on mobile phone users and the big arrows dilma draws are perhaps feints … I think the Russians are waiting for the final move by the natzos in the South and then mauling them into complete humiliation- again this century.
I will say that it has become clear to me in teaching myself history over the last year that it is obvious now that Nazi Germany was also a proxy army raised to take Russia in that centennial attempt , the second that century as the First World War and the Revolution against the czar paid for by the Bankers gold had failed.
Hence this attempt ,equally planned and funded and propagandised is just an obvious carbon copy of that.
To illustrate this venal aristo elite imperial mindset let me show you the English DS attempting to whitewash themselves.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Lindybeige
Here you have the whole British officer / salt o the earth squaddie nco , class worshipping and racist Russophobia in a tidy nutshell – that addendum at the end that jolly hockey sticks, not so repressed homosexual posh boy bearded officer type Lloyd to explain away Ukropnazis in WW2 by promoting The Queen Bitch Applebaums book, as the supposed reason of the Russophobia by the brainwashed population, is the dead giveaway! They really expect people to believe their whole posturing crap.
The dumb fuck ‘Joe’ Yorkshireman so full of himself also reveals that he is also deaf now and is proud of it but obviously much dumber by no doubt lots more concussion- he doesn’t seem to understand.
He certainly is blind – because he didn’t mention being besties with any Nazis, swastikas, 88 etc, nor pow abuse that is documented, nor just why the fuck he decided to up and go fight against Russians in THEIR borderlands thousand mile away. Except that perhaps he too is a repressed and depressed personality in search of some beardy love in a trench who is happy to be worshipped or man loved by the Officer Classes, as a straight talking grunt who really loves his native Yorkshire tea – believing it fucking grows there possibly.
Lol- he thought if the best sex he had waiting to meet his obvious death wish.
Lindy and Joe should get a room! The frisson is terrific.
The whole thing is the U.K. aristo elite imperial history propaganda bs that has landed our whole population into the dozen years of austerity driven BrexShit and mindless racism whilst turning us into Nazi lovers! In the centennial habit of taking Russia for our shadow masters.
Well , we have always been the best propagandists and Churchill was ready to go to war against Russia immediately in 1945 and was only stopped from that Unthinkable by the soldiers parliamentarians returning and booting him out as Leader.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 5 2023 14:32 utc | 287

Peter Kurten | Jan 5 2023 14:22 utc | 282
The whole natostan media is well coordinated. If you pay attention to fake news written by diversity hire retards in US but mostly in UK, then presented by MSM as coming from Ukr sources, you’ll see they are always pushing the date for something even more impossible than the previous fake story. It maintains their imaginary war and their imaginary winning. Look at a few recent samples: “Ukraine is planning a serious offensive in March” or “Russian control of Crimea endangers the whole world”.
The imaginary world from natostan won’t be a problem for Russia but the civilian and soldier deaths are far from low numbers. Only in DPR 4400 civilians were killed Feb 17 – Dec 26, 3956 wounded. The “slow is best” gang can do the estimation for the whole region, then add Russian soldiers using Shoigu’s numbers, add Militias and estimate Wagners. You won’t like the result.

Posted by: rk | Jan 5 2023 14:38 utc | 288

Ukraine General: “if we gonna beat the Russians we need 500 tanks, 2000 launchers, 7000 armored vehicles and 500000 rounds”
Western Media: “putins war is a huge disaster and is an even bigger disaster after new year. Kremlim already planning on taking out Putin”
Lol
Do the math

Posted by: Comandante | Jan 5 2023 14:46 utc | 289

Re: Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 5 2023 7:49 utc | 203
Just for the record, I have no particular idea of who or what Erdogan’s successor would be – it appears to me he hasn’t groomed anyone for the job – presumably because he plans on hanging around for another few years at least.
2023 is obviously a big year for Turkey with the Centenary of the Turkish Republic set to be celebrated in October 2023.

Posted by: Julian | Jan 5 2023 14:48 utc | 290

“Putin wants the USA to stop trying to regime-change the RF and to give up suzerainty of half a dozens states in eastern Europe, and he is offering nothing in exchange.”

“For example he wants the USA elites to give up Ukraine — which country he is prepared to give up in exchange? Belarus? Kazakhstan?”
Posted by: Blissex | Jan 4 2023 20:51 utc | 39

“It’s maybe as simple as that. A bit of horse trading [with an agreemen-incapable, totally amoral practitioner].”
abrogard | Jan 4 2023 21:03 utc | 46

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Yes, from time to time Blissex repeats this “negotiation” proposal on the premise that the dominionist empire is somehow willing and able to offer only “good-faith concessions” in its campaign for full-spectrum dominance to plunder the planet. Russia should, in turn, be reasonable and willing to concede and compromise its existential security. After all, the frog should be reasonable in its negotiation with the Scorpion, who simply wants to cross the river.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jan 5 2023 14:50 utc | 291

Thanks b, that was truly wholesome and tasty. One of your best yet …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 5 2023 14:52 utc | 292

@ Lone Druid at 271 and 273
The real measure of US success or failure in this war is the effect it has on the ability of the US Dollar to retain its status as the world’s reserve currency. By that measure, the way the US stole Russian assets and piled up trillions of additional dollars in debt in a failed attempt to destroy Russia makes the war a disastrous failure for the US.
I have no connection with Fnord73 or any other Fnord.

Posted by: The Real Fnord13 | Jan 5 2023 15:01 utc | 293

@ Tim | Jan 5 2023 13:57 utc | 278
Indeed. Very much so.
@ Quartermaster | Jan 5 2023 14:00 utc | 279
Ow, my head hurts. LOL 🙂
@ Lone Druid | Jan 5 2023 13:31 utc | 271
@ Lone Druid | Jan 5 2023 13:42 utc | 273

U.S. (the real war-wager) objectives seem to have been achieved right from the get-go ???
U.S. … more global control ???

Nice touch name dropping Bhadrakumar, though not in support of any of your absurd claims.

1. Russia pre-emptive intervention 4 days prior to US/NATO/AFU planned offensive. Achieving operational & strategic surprise, resulting in capture of Kherson & Zaporozhye Oblasts, Mariupol, Biolabs, securing land corridor access to Crimea, control of Azov Sea & denial of coastal access to Banderastan. Inflicting huge losses on & pinning AFU in fixed positions ever since. RF attaining & retaining Theater Strategic & Operational Initiative & Dominance, including Air from Feb2422. 8+ years NATO/Nazi planning & preparation up in smoke.
2. Battlefield demonstration of the capabilities of only ~15% of it’s forces against a numerically superior enemy. Exposed the myth of US exorbitant cost, yet largely combat inneffective, junk wanderwaffen, daily. Exposed flawed US/NATO Strategy, Doctrine & Tactics in actual High-Intensity Conventional Warfare.
3. RF effective indifference to Empires self-defeating, critically destructive rebounding of it’s inane rolling sanctions. Instant major own goal Blowback. Mortal wound to PetroDollar, SWIFT & suborned International institutions & the ultimate end of Empire. Creating the circumstances/opening for the RoW to stand-up.
4. Destroying Empires soft power globally, exposing US/NATO paper-tiger de-industrialized status & triggering the likely break-up of EU/NATO and the eventual reduction of the USA to a regional power (basketcase). The beginning of the end for the Vampyres & their ‘International-Rules-Based-Order’.

FIFY
New NIC, same endless ‘alternate reality’ propaganda narrative BS. Rewriting history now too. Yawn.

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 5 2023 15:13 utc | 294

Putin instructed Shoigu to introduce a ceasefire regime along the entire line of contact in Ukraine from 12:00 on January 6 to 24:00 on January 7 (Orthodox Christmas) – Kremlin

Posted by: rk | Jan 5 2023 15:13 utc | 295

@ The Real Fnord13 (Comment no. 293) —
The US losses you mention are qualitatively different. US taxpayers bear the cost of the war, whereas the profits accumulate in private hands — a big win for American capital, in fact, because it was never about the average taxpayer anyway. Basically, rich Americans decided long ago that it’s time to provoke Putin (Bush’s NATO invitation to Ukraine), and it finally materialized. The poor are now paying for it, and the rich enjoy their profits. The perennial American military industrial congressional complex happily grinds it gears. The same basic model.

Posted by: Lone Druid | Jan 5 2023 15:25 utc | 296

Posted by: The Real Fnord13 | Jan 5 2023 15:01 utc | 293
Did you used to post under just Fnord? Do you remember the Kyle Rittenhouse thread? Was that you arguing with Gruff in that thread? I used to look for your posts as I thought you made reasonable points at times, but I havent seen you for a while, and the other Fnords I have seen lately didnt sound like you.
Just curious.
Cheers.

Posted by: David F | Jan 5 2023 15:27 utc | 297


“The task Russia, China, India, Iran, and the RoW have is to whittle the bully down to size without a major global conflagration. This IMO can be accomplished via Geopolitical means by the deft application of Geoeconomics. No, it won’t be instantaneous since it’s highly complex, but many initial steps have already been taken. The project’s critical mass will soon be reached and after that there’s no reversing the process. Remember, what’s happening in Syria, Iraq, Ukraine, Libya, Morocco, and a few other places are merely pieces of the much bigger picture, as the struggle is for control of the world and establishing the Four Freedoms for all humans.”
Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 4 2023 21:45 utc | 58

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Thank you for a broad yet succinct contextual overview and for reminding us, as A. Crooke does, that this is as much or more a financial conflict as it is military. Russua has prioritized the exsanguination of the West’s economy over that of living human beings. Your comment is well worth saving to respond to the critical no-star armchair generals who so frequently appear here.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jan 5 2023 15:29 utc | 298

@rk 295
Yes, vain Putin has been desperate to be seen as “the good benevolent Tzar”, hence he has been constantly sabotaging the russian military. It was he who tried to stop the mobilization till the end, because of fears for his internal popularity. Trying everything possible to stop the targeting of anything but very narrow set of strict military targets, even now. Latest news is that targeting of most electrical infrastruture will stop until the warm weather arrives. Very, very poor wartime leader, vain person, although he was better in peace time.

Posted by: ObserverBG | Jan 5 2023 15:39 utc | 299

Im just one account, quite tracable. No money in the game, but fuck Putin and his fascists. I know punks, anarchists all over Russia who gets hit in the face, not to mention the poor homos. War on Satanism? Lol.

Posted by: Fnord73 | Jan 5 2023 15:41 utc | 300