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January 17, 2023
Ukraine SitRep – Media Ignorance, Counter-Artillery War, Three Lost Armies

Yves Smith asks:

What if Russia Won the Ukraine War but the Western Press Didn’t Notice?

She points to several headlines which, despite decisive Russian victories like its taking of Soledar, present the Ukraine as winning the war:

Nevertheless, Soledar has fallen and the loss of Bakhmut looks baked in, absent horrific Russian errors. The so-called Zelensky line is breaking even before Russia has put its recently-mobilized forces to work in a serious way. Regular commentators are waiting for the Russian hammer to fall, although Russia may simply grind more forcefully by pressing harder at more points along the very long line of contact. Remember one concern on the Russian side is avoiding “winning” in a way that leads to NATO panic and desperate action … not that the Collective West’s fragile emotional state can be readily managed.

With that context, you’d expect some members of the press to have worked out that things are not going very well for Ukraine and the classic cowboy movie rescue of the calvary riding over the hill (here in the form of tanks and artillery) will be too little, too late.

Instead, the media seems to be trying to integrate snippets of facts on the ground with the heroic tale of inevitable Ukraine victory.

That is certainly correct for the wide majority of the stories, which claim that Soledar and Bahkmut, are irrelevant towns, but some pieces are creeping up that differ. A few days ago the Washington Post headlined:

Bloody Bakhmut siege poses risks for Ukraine

Ukraine faces difficult choices about how much deeper its military should get drawn into a protracted fight over the besieged city of Bakhmut, as Kyiv prepares for a new counteroffensive elsewhere on the front that requires conserving weapons, ammunition and experienced fighters.

Russia has escalated its assault in the area in recent days, unleashing savage fighting that has underscored the high cost of the battle. Russian mercenaries and released convicts from the Wagner group pushed into the neighboring salt-mining town of Soledar and inched closer to Bakhmut, the capture of which has eluded them for months despite an advantage in firepower and the willingness to sacrifice troops.

The piece quotes several Ukrainian soldiers which speak of huge losses on their side. But the U.S. is still egging them on:

The senior U.S. official cautioned against completely dismissing Bakhmut or neighboring Soledar as nonstrategic places that Kyiv can simply relinquish, noting that the salt and gypsum mines give the area economic significance. Theoretically, the Russians could use the deep salt mines and tunnels to protect equipment and ammunition from Ukrainian missile strikes. Moscow has also endowed the city with import.

“To some degree, Bakhmut matters to [Ukraine] because it matters so much to the Russians,” the senior U.S. official said, noting that control of Bakhmut is not going to have a huge impact on the conflict or imperil Ukraine’s defensive or offensive options in the country’s eastern Donbas region.

The official added, “Bakhmut is not going to change the war.”

I believe the senior U.S. official to be very wrong. Soledar and Bakhmut are bleeding the Ukrainian army dry. That is of relevance. Look at the insane number of Ukrainian units deployed on that only 50 kilometer (30mi) long sector of the front.


Source: Military Land Deployment Mapbigger

I count the equivalent of some 27 brigade size formations in that area. The usual size of a brigade is some 3,000 to 4,000 men with hundreds of all kinds of vehicles. If all brigades had their full strength that force would count as 97,500 men. In a recent interview the Ukrainian military commander Zaluzhny said that his army has 200,000 men trained to fight with 500,000 more having other functions or currently being trained. The forces which are currently getting mauled in the Bakhmut area constitute 50% of Ukraine's battle ready forces.

Zaluzhny has pulled units from other fronts like the Kreminna and Svatove sector further north in Luhansk province to feed them into Bakhmut. That has minimized any chance that the Ukrainian forces in those sectors will be able to make any progress.

What nearly all reports from Ukraine seem to miss is the huge damage that Russia artillery is causing on a daily base. Ukraine has little artillery left to respond to that and whatever it still has is getting less by the day.

A few weeks ago the Russian military started a systematic counter artillery campaign which has since made great progress. The typical western way of detecting enemy artillery units is by radar. The flight path of the projectile is measured and the coordinates of its source are calculated enabling ones own artillery to respond. But counter-artillery radar itself depends on radiating. It is thereby easily detectable and vulnerable to fire. Over the last months Russia deployed a very different counter-artillery detection systems with the rather ironic name of Penicillin:

Penicillin or 1B75 Penicillin is an acoustic-thermal artillery-reconnaissance system developed by Ruselectronics for the Russian Armed Forces. The system aims to detect and locate enemy artillery, mortars, MLRs, anti-aircraft or tactical-missile firing positions with seismic and acoustic sensors, without emitting any radio waves. It locates enemy fire within 5 seconds at a range of 25 km (16 mi; 13 nmi). Penicillin completed state trials in December 2018 and entered combat duty in 2020.

The Penicillin is mounted on the 8×8 Kamaz-6350 chassis and consists of a 1B75 sensor suite placed on a telescopic boom for the infrared and visible spectrum as well as of several ground-installed seismic and acoustic receivers as a part of the 1B76 sensor suite. It has an effective range for communication with other military assets up to 40 kilometres (25 mi) and is capable to operate even in a fully automatic mode, without any crew. One system can reportedly cover an entire division against an enemy fire. Besides that, it co-ordinates and corrects a friendly artillery fire.


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The Penicillin system can hide in the woods and stick up its telescopic boom to look at and listen to the battlefield. As it does not radiate itself there is no good way for an enemy to detect it.

The system pinpoints Ukrainian guns as they fire. They are then eliminated by immediate precise counter-fire. As the artillery relevant part of today's 'clobber' list provided by the Russian Ministry of Defense claims:

Operational-Tactical Aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have neutralised an artillery ordnance depot of 114th Territorial Defence Brigade near Veliky Burluk (Kharkov region), as well as 82 artillery units at their firing positions, manpower and hardware at 98 areas.

Counterbattery warfare operations have resulted in destruction of:

  • one Polish-manufactured Krab howitzer near Peschanoye (Kharkov region);
  • one U.S.-manufactured M109 Paladin howitzer, and one fighting vehicle equipped with Grad multiple-launch rocket system (MLRS) near Lozovaya (Kharkov region);
  • one D-20 howitzer near Terny (Donetsk People's Republic);
  • two Giatsint-B howitzers near Maryinka and Orlovka (Donetsk People's Republic);
  • two Akatsiya self-propelled howitzers near Nevskoye (Lugansk People's Republic), and Preobrazhenka (Zaporozhye region);
  • five D-30 howitzers near Zmiyevka, Novokairy (Kherson region), Sofiyevka (Donetsk People's Republic), and Orekhov (Zaporozhye region).

Four U.S.-manufactured counterbattery warfare radars have been destroyed:

  • two AN/TPQ-50 stations near Mylovoye and Dudchany (Kherson region),
  • one AN/TPQ-36 counterbattery warfare radar near Ugledar (Donetsk People's Republic),
  • one U.S.-manufactured AN/TPQ-48 counterbattery warfare radar near Senkovo (Kharkov region).

Air defence facilities have shot down six Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Kremennaya (Lugansk People's Republic), Nikolskoye, and Petrovskoye (Donetsk People's Republic).

14 rocket-propelled projectiles launched by HIMARS and Olkha MLRS have been intercepted near Udy (Kharkov region), Smolyaninovo (Lugansk People's Republic), Donetsk, and Khartsyzsk (Donetsk People's Republic).

One U.S.-manufactured anti-radiation missile has been shot down near Radensk (Kherson region).

One Ukrainian Tochka-U ballistic missile has been shot down near Berdyansk (Zaporozhye region).

The above is the equivalent of two artillery companies (batteries with six guns each) eliminated in just one day. Ukrainian counter-battery fire against Russian artillery is no longer possible as the necessary detection equipment gets eliminated and as Ukrainian counter-fire is shot down by Russian air defenses.

This Russian counter-artillery campaign has been going on for several weeks. It has disabled large parts of what was left of Ukrainian longer range capabilities. Meanwhile the Russian artillery keeps on knocking down Ukranian troops that hold the frontline. Only when all parts of the Ukrainian trenches have been hit by intense fire will the Russian infantry move in to clean up whatever is left behind.

This form of battle is causing huge losses on the Ukrainian side while the Russian forces incur just a minimum of casualties.

In his recent talks Col (ret.) Douglas Macgregor put the deaths in Ukraine forces at 150,000 and casualties at 450,000. I, like Yves Smith, doubt that number of wounded is that high. As the system of Ukrainian battlefield extradition and hospitalization is in a bad state there will be less wounded and likely more dead.

In a huge contrast to U.S. waged wars, the civilian death count on the Ukrainian side is remarkably low:

Andriy Yermak, head of the Ukrainian presidential staff, said at the World Economic Forum in the Swiss resort of Davos, “We have registered 80,000 crimes committed by Russian invaders and over 9,000 civilians have been killed, including 453 children.”

Feeding more troops into the battle in the Bakhmut sector, as the Ukrainian side has been doing, is not a good use of resources.

We can state that Ukraine has by now lost the nominal equipment of two larger armies.

At the beginning of the war the Ukrainian army was said to have some 2,500 tanks, 12,500 armored vehicles and 3,500 large artillery systems. It is doubtful that more than half of those were in a usable state but they may have received enough repair to be workable.

The Russia military claims that most of those have been eliminated:

7,549 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 984 fighting vehicles equipped with MLRS, 3,853 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 8,081 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.

If one doubts those numbers one has to ask why the Ukraine has needed to import so many more weapons and is still short of them:

  • 410 Soviet-era tanks delivered by NATO members in former communist bloc, including Poland, Czech Republic and Slovenia.
  • 300 [Armored/Infantry Fighting Vehicles], including 250 Soviet-designed IFVs from former communist states.
  • 1,100 [Armored Personnel Carriers], including 300 M113 troop carriers and 250 M117s.
  • 300 towed howitzers. 400+ pieces of self-propelled artillery, of which 180 is on order.
  • 95 [Multiple Rocket Launchers]

There were also a number of fighter airplanes, helicopter and air-defense systems. The above was the second army, after Ukraine's original one was mostly gone, that has by now been nearly eliminated.

The Russian clobber list now regularly reports of combat with Ukraine forces that kills, for example, one tank, three armored vehicles and a number of pick-ups and motor vehicles:

One Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance group has been eliminated near Liman Pervy (Kharkov region). The enemy has lost over 50 Ukrainian personnel, one tank, two infantry fighting vehicles, and two pickups.

[In Donetsk direction] over 60 Ukrainian personnel, one tank, three armoured fighting vehicles, and six motor vehicles have been eliminated.

Two AFU sabotage and reconnaissance groups have been eliminated in the area to the north of Levadnoye and Vladimirovka (Donetsk People's Republic). The enemy has lost up to 40 Ukrainian personnel, two armoured fighting vehicles, and three motor vehicles.

Pick-ups and unarmored motor vehicles should avoid the frontline and certainly not be part of force attacking the immediate frontline. If these reports reflect the current structure of Ukrainian forces, as I believe they do, than its state is indeed dire.

In his Economist interview General Zeluzhny has requested a third army to be delivered to him immediately:

“I know that I can beat this enemy,” he says. “But I need resources. I need 300 tanks, 600-700 IFVs [infantry fighting vehicles], 500 Howitzers.”

As the Economist writer dryly noted:

The incremental arsenal he is seeking is bigger than the total armoured forces of most European armies.

The stocks of two complete armies have by now been destroyed in Ukraine. The resources for a smaller third one will be delivered in the next rounds of 'western' equipment deliveries during the next months. Russia will dully destroy Ukraine's third army just as it has destroyed the first and second one. It is doubtful that the 'West' has enough material left to provide Ukraine with a fourth one.

That then leaves only two options. Send in 'western' armies with the equipment they still have or declare victory and go home.

The neo-conservatives as ever favor the first option. President Joe Biden may still be against sending U.S. soldiers but this could change if he indeed gets blackmailed into doing it:

[A]s the ‘classified documents’ scandal gains momentum, the malleable president will likely fall-in-line and do whatever the hawkish foreign policy establishment demands of him. In short, the documents flap is being used by behind-the-scenes powerbrokers who are blackmailing the president to pursue their own narrow interests. They have Brandon over-a-barrel.

There is no evidence that this is happening but the signs are there.

The second option is to declare a non-existent victory and to forget about the whole issues.

But will the 'western' media, as Yves asks, notice any of this?

As commentator David correctly remarks at Yves' site:

I’ve said for a long time now that the West will be able to claim “victory”, or at least not defeat, by establishing fantastical victory conditions that the Russians never had and never wanted, and then claiming credit for frustrating them. With luck, this will just about enable western elites to hang onto power, at least temporarily.

"Putin tried to conquer Europe but we stopped him after he took only half of Ukraine," will sound like victory. But it is of course extremely far from the truth. Anyway, the media may well buy it:

But in the wider sense, we’re seeing the latest and most degenerate stage of the stupidity and ignorance which has afflicted the western media and pundit class over the last year. They didn’t know about the war in the Donbas, nobody told them Russia had the strongest army in Europe, nobody knew about the defensive lines in Donbas, nobody understood the seriousness of the Russian threats, nobody realised the Russians hoped for a short, sharp war to bring the Ukrainians to their senses, nobody understood why Russia went over to Plan B while it mobilised, nobody realised the Russians had been stockpiling weapons and ammunition for years; nobody knew what attrition warfare was …. In other words, the most disgraceful example of ignorance and stupidity of any ruling class in modern times. It will go on to the end, and “victory” will be proclaimed.

The war the U.S. provoked in Ukraine has been won by Russia even when no one wants to note it.

Comments

Thank you for the update, b.
And I agree very much with this statement of yours: “Remember one concern on the Russian side is avoiding “winning” in a way that leads to NATO panic and desperate action…” I believe the Russians are very much engaged in a balancing act to keep moving forward without triggering escalation to World War III. Some people don’t seem to recognize that hazard.

Posted by: Clever Dog | Jan 17 2023 23:07 utc | 101

Posted by: Paco | Jan 17 2023 21:58 utc | 76
A toast to that.
Posted by: Comandante | Jan 17 2023 22:25 utc | 91
These poor sods are living in a well-deserved hell of their own making, which will only become worse.
I’d feel pity for them, but I refuse to empathize with fascists and their lackeys.

Posted by: Arganthonios | Jan 17 2023 23:10 utc | 102

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 17 2023 22:02 utc | 80
Alternatively, Russia could have extended even further from the Kherson bridgehead, and then the crossings wouldn’t have been in bombardment range. As it was they were stuck with too little ground for a buffer zone, but still too much ground to defend. I hope Russia keeps this lesson in mind when it comes to negotiating peace terms with the hohols.

Posted by: catdog | Jan 17 2023 23:11 utc | 103

This is not very clear and I cannot make out for sure that it is a Hymars but with full screen the drone can be seen coming in. The done comes in from the dark on the right side of the vertical cross hair – on the opposite side of the target to the surveillance drone. RT video of destruction of a Hymars.
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/us-mlrs-destroyed:a

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 17 2023 23:14 utc | 104

Posted by: catdog | Jan 17 2023 23:11 utc | 104
In ideal world yes, but that would have required weakening fronts in Zaporizhe and in Donbass even more creating risks in those areas, which are strategically more critical. If you know you are getting stronger over time, while enemy is getting relatively weaker, then time plays to your advantage, as long as you avoid getting encircled and preserve forces.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 17 2023 23:28 utc | 105

Names at 101 clearly a troll. He/she/they is clearly ignorant about names. Aside from pushing a Nazi line implying a vast ethno-religious conspiracy by followers of the 2nd oldest extant mono-theistic religion [zoroastrianism is far older], the first three individuals on the list that I checked at random have no such connections in their family histories. b should delete a post based entirely on hatred of individuals’ family roots…

Posted by: mjh | Jan 17 2023 23:31 utc | 106

The Penicillin system sounds like a ShotSpotter, albeit “much bigger”
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Posted by: daffyDuct | Jan 17 2023 23:33 utc | 107

” b should delete a post based entirely on hatred of individuals’ family roots…
Posted by: mjh | Jan 17 2023 23:31 utc | 107 ”
OK Karen.

Posted by: Deplorable Commisar | Jan 17 2023 23:37 utc | 108

Re: KSA Min of Finance in Davos on Non-USD Oil Trade
you replied:
This takes big balls. Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi both wanted to do the same and neither of them survived it.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 17 2023 21:52 utc | 75
That was then, before the now Naked Empire weaponized the dollar and confiscated stole $300 billion of RF gold and foreign currency reserves.
Reminder: Biden said KSA was a pariah and I bet more than my piggy bank that KSA has more than just a hand shake with Vlad Putin and Xi Jinping on today’s announcement.
Have you read the construct of the Kissinger 1973 Saudi arrangement? Price your oil in USD and we promise to be forever friends.
Yes breaking up is hard to do but we got to move on after what you did; first Iran then Venezuela and now Russia. And you dare threaten China.
Did you read about Xi’s warm royal welcome in Riyadh early December and the 34 signed agreements?
Oing. Mr. Powell best get ready…that sound he hears are Eurodollars coming home and USTs being cashed in. And Powell can’t say go pound sand like in the 1960s when Nixon told the late Charles de Gaulle (former pres. of France) “return to Paris with your boat load of dollars you are asking to redeem for gold.” “We are broke, we ain’t got no gold, so off the gold standard we go. Take a hike.”
Americans get ready for a lower standard of living. Russia will refuse the invitation to share.
Sirs, “your credit card is declined
BRICS…over here and approving applications to join. Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Mexico, Argentina, Uruguay, Indonesia. They keep coming.

Posted by: Likklemore | Jan 17 2023 23:44 utc | 109

Interesting post. Indeed, given the completely dishonest nature of the western corporate press, I could believe almost anything. Perhaps the Ukrainians are on their last legs and the Russians will ‘win’ – but it is certain that the Ukrainians have given them fits. Otherwise the Russians would not have had to mobilize so many new troops, or try to degrade Ukraine’s infrastructure, yes?
As regards counter-battery artillery fire: well maybe the Russians are developing an edge, but I suspect it’s not quite as simple as you say. Locating artillery via sound is ancient, it pre-dates radar. It was largely abandoned because it is so much less accurate than radar, although modern computer-aided systems that include meteorological data and inputs from multiple clusters of microphones and other sensors seem to be getting better. According to Wikipedia this technology is making a comeback – and the western powers have these as well, and if they are really useful they will give them to the Ukrainians, if they have not already. Also, unlike radar, these systems have trouble tracking rocket artillery as you have a long “whoosh” rather than a single bang.
Also: much of this is likely classified, but many modern counter-artillery radars are probably spread-spectrum and frequency agile, and hard to track. You can also bet that for every active counter-artillery radar they have, the Ukrainians will have a half-dozen decoy transmitters. These can be sorted out, but that takes time and effort…

Posted by: TG | Jan 17 2023 23:44 utc | 110

very impressive b. Your work– and your management of this bar– is, in my opinion, a service to humankind that will continue to aid an essential group of people– barflies– who bring to your site a depth of experience and insight which is needed in assessing our condition and charting our path forward. I’m getting some $ together to send to you– you don’t ask for much but anyway I can give you something. Again, thank you.

Posted by: migueljose | Jan 17 2023 23:48 utc | 111

Touchy subject! Zandera had a fit!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/17/ukrainian-adviser-quits-after-claims-over-russian-missile-that-killed-dozens
“A Ukrainian presidential adviser has resigned after causing widespread anger when he suggested a Russian missile that killed dozens had been shot down by Ukraine.
45 people were killed in the south-central city of Dnipro when a Russian X-22 anti-ship ballistic missile hit an apartment block on Saturday. Rescuers called off the search on Tuesday with 20 people still missing.
In comments to a YouTube channel , hours after the attack, Oleksiy Arestovych said the rocket had detonated after it had been downed by Ukrainian air defence forces.
“The rocket was shot down, it fell on the driveway, it exploded when it fell,” he told Feigin Live.
Hundreds of Ukrainian members of civil society and several prominent figures took to social media in the days afterwards, demanding the presidential administration sack Arestovych for making unverified statements. They said the comments aided Russian propaganda, which frequently portrays attacks as the fault of Ukraine’s armed forces.
In a statement, which did not address the remarks directly, Ukraine’s air defence forces said they did not currently have the technological capabilities to detect or shoot down ballistic missiles.
Arestovych refused to apologise for two days, blaming tiredness and stating that it was “one theory” put forward by a friend who happened to be near the scene. Then on Tuesday, Arestovych published a picture of his resignation letter on Facebook, stating that it was “an example of civilised behaviour” in light of his “fundamental mistake”.
A spokesperson for the president Volodymyr Zelenskiy, Serhiy Nykoforov, confirmed that the resignation had been accepted. The former actor and politician was appointed as a freelance, non-staff adviser to the presidential administration in 2020.
During the first few weeks of the invasion, Arestovych was one of the most watched personalities and information sources in Ukraine. He was open about the fact that he produced optimistic content to comfort an otherwise distressed Ukrainian society and referred to himself as a “sedative” for Ukraine.
By spring, however, his popularity and perceived credibility had waned. Far fewer people wanted to hear and would believe his predictions. His statement that the war would last only two to three weeks became the peak moment for his detractors.
In comments to Hromadske TV, media expert Oksana Moroz, said Arestovych “gives (people) something good … They stopped, or perhaps did not have the desire to analyse what was said.”
His critics also said that he portrayed his wartime assessments as based on exclusive information.”

Posted by: daffyDuct | Jan 17 2023 23:50 utc | 112

” And I agree very much with this statement of yours: “Remember one concern on the Russian side is avoiding “winning” in a way that leads to NATO panic and desperate action…” I believe the Russians are very much engaged in a balancing act to keep moving forward without triggering escalation to World War III. Some people don’t seem to recognize that hazard.
Posted by: Clever Dog | Jan 17 2023 23:07 utc | 102 ”
This is common delusional thinking here.
If currently, the US needs to be treated with ” kid gloves ” or they will massively escalate that also means that they will do the same if they are obviously losing in the future. This is the purpose of having nukes in the first place. Bascially, its a fight to the death at this point only , however, if this war is not theater and thats a big IF.

Posted by: Deplorable Commisar | Jan 17 2023 23:50 utc | 113

@ Likklemore and paco – thanks for your posts…
@ bevin | Jan 17 2023 19:51 utc | 29
okay.. obviously many including most of the folks at moa aren’t buying the propaganda… my point is why even bother to try to compete with the lies and bullshit – western generated propaganda? the real war is on the ground in real terms… the story line will change later.. but maybe i have it wrong and it is important to combat lies and mis info on a regular basis… i just don’t think ”lies and misinfo” is sustainable in the long run…

Posted by: james | Jan 17 2023 23:54 utc | 114

Remarkable how this war is beginning to resemble a modernised version of WWI.
Trench warfare, no all out Dresden/Hiroshima style attempt to murder civilians, massive artillery barrages, surveillance and light bombing flights over the enemy (using drones instead of two seat observation planes), no blitzkrieg offensives (in many months) on either side, bleeding the enemy to death militarily as a strategy, all of it, and now “Penicillin”.
Locating enemy artillery by its acoustic signatures and gun flashes is hardly new; both sides were doing it in 1918. When the gigantic German “Paris Gun” shelled the French capital, it (a naval artillery piece crewed by navy personnel) was surrounded by normal army artillery, which fired en masse whenever it did, to provide a ‘sound screen’ precisely to frustrate location by listening teams.
If NATOstan sends in expeditionary forces, the return to WWI will be complete.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 17 2023 23:56 utc | 115

@ daffyDuct | Jan 17 2023 23:50 utc | 113
Arestovych will be treated like shite… in fact the ukee folks need to flip it around with zelensky treated like shite and this arestovych given a heros welcome for speaking truth to power… but he won’t…

Posted by: james | Jan 17 2023 23:56 utc | 116

Likklemore LoveDonbass
Some time ago, Russia and China said they would provide protection to countries that wanted to join BRICS/multi-polar world/trade in national currencies ect. It was very soon after that it became clear Saudi Arabia was moving into the multi-polar world so I guess that providing protection was for the benefit of KSA. Iran and KSA is a big chunk of gulf oil.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 17 2023 23:59 utc | 117

james | Jan 17 2023 23:56 utc | 117
Arestovych is as a corrupt liar as the rest of them but some other game is going on here. The Ukraine channels have ben talking about election in February but looking it up in wikipedia, presidential elections are in 2024. He has also been recently talking to the US about politics.
Zelensky looks to be past his useby date with the US so perhaps the US will install Arestovych. He could also be going to run as a fake opposition to make it look like an election but he has been saying a lot more stuff than just the Russian missile being shot down. There was calls for the SBU to arrest him but whoever his backers are, they are not allowed to touch him.
A recent interview. https://www.bitchute.com/video/aRdfdFtneqvt/

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 18 2023 0:11 utc | 118

Looks like soledar had some importance seems like seversk is under threat, may be getting evacuated and looks like kremmina will hold for now, can’t keep attacking it only from the east. Russia may even press out from kremmina now that ukraines offensive towards there faltered.
Hard to say though if ukraine is going to abandon a thrust to the azov sea. Bet they throw in new western armor on it too. Sounds like bahkmut is being bled out, Wagner is all around it like a snake and the Chechnyan leader is talking about war again so the Chechnyans are in play somewhere, but where?

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jan 18 2023 0:12 utc | 119

The Russian penicillin machine is an interesting device. It might have other useful applications. Thirty years or more ago I read a book about Australian aborigines who went on walk-abouts and communicated with each other by sending sound waves through the earth. I’m trying to remember the title of that book because I’d like to read it again.

Posted by: Chas | Jan 18 2023 0:18 utc | 120

Karen or no Karen, the site owner has deleted the comment by “names” currently as slot 101 twice already, both previous times under different usernames.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 18 2023 0:23 utc | 121

“Posted by: names | Jan 17 2023 23:03 utc | 101”
Is that you, Miles Mathis?

Posted by: Deplorable | Jan 18 2023 0:26 utc | 122

”Joe Biden just sang Happy Birthday to MLK III’s wife and straight up forgot her name lmfao”https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1615038019764879367
No one wants to babysit this senile old fuk thru another term.
The Biden Papers are bye-bye Joe.
And Harris doesn’t automatically get the DNC endorsement. She doesn’t need to be RFK’d. She can simply be forgotten.
Posted by: mjh | Jan 17 2023 23:31 utc | 107
b, based on my observation of his longstanding past practice, will delete.
MoA won a mention by Noam Chomsky…. Anticipate incoming trash posts for the next week or 3….

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 18 2023 0:37 utc | 123

Whether or not Biden is subject to blackmail, I don’t see US leaders committing the nation’s own troops and weapons to fighting Russia for the simple reason that those troops will get pummeled, and the military commanders know it. A humiliating defeat at the hands of evil Russia and its evil president cannot and will not be risked. The US could level the playing one way only, and that would be by going nuclear. I still believe that American leaders have enough sense not to go down that road, but hell, I could be wrong.

Posted by: Rob | Jan 18 2023 0:39 utc | 124

james@115
I didn’t imagine that I was telling you anything new.
The war is, as you say, on the ground but it is important to stress that most of the world is hoping that the empire is going to get a long overdue come-uppance.
Deplorable Commisar@109: If you aren’t a troll you missed your vocation. The rubbish (names@101) is so transparently lunatic (“…1933: We have a Jew takeover of Germany disguised as a Nazi takeover.
The takeover occurred when the Jew Hitler assumed dictatorial powers…”) that it’s only possible purpose, unless it is a cry by the author for help, is to discredit the serious and thoughtful purpose of a blog which dares to challenge war propaganda posing as conventional wisdom.
This post from A Socialist in Canada is written by an Australian who has been studying Ukraine for years
“…imperialism is a horrifying thing. Logically, the bloody setbacks being suffered by the Ukrainian side in the war must, at a certain point, force a social reckoning. Supporting this conclusion is the fact that over the past three decades, few working classes in the world have suffered as badly at the hands of their rulers as has the Ukrainian proletariat. Since independence, Ukraine has never come close to regaining its real GDP at the end of the Soviet period, and the country’s capitalists have been notorious for corruption, thuggery and plunder.
“From a certain point, Ukraine’s elites allowed themselves the fantasy that the sponsorship and protection of the rich West meant they could join with impunity in threats and provocations against a much stronger neighbour. Now that the predictable war has come, Ukraine’s rulers have turned to feeding the country’s proletariat into the meat-grinder of the frontlines, in a tragic fiasco that benefits only imperialism. While popular anger in Ukraine is for the present being diverted into hatred of Russia, the point cannot be put off indefinitely when millions of Ukrainian workers will start to reflect that they are not of the same nation as their country’s crime lord oligarchs, shape-shifting politicians, venal bureaucrats and troglodytic ultra-nationalists.
“Surveys have long shown that the underlying attitudes of the Ukrainian masses to social questions are solidly progressive,[12] and election results suggest that the views of the ultra-rightists, despite the strong presence of those currents in the state apparatus, are not widely shared.[13] Nevertheless, the ideological confusion of the population is monumental,[14] and has created a hostility to the political process itself that is reflected in a tradition of regarding politicians of all stripes with contempt and mistrust. For the present, there is little to show that the political thinking of workers as a class differs much from this general anomie. Lack of organisation, a vacuum of leadership, and only a slow evolution of class consciousness make it hard to foresee that the proletariat, as conventionally understood, will play a role in the political reckonings of the near-to-medium term.
“Still, the situation cannot continue as it is, and the ironic truth is that hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian workers are now highly organised — in uniforms, and with guns. If an ineffectual government oversees accumulating military defeats while refusing to make peace, and if the result is a wave of mutinies, that will not be the first time such events have played out on Ukrainian soil….”
https://socialistincanada.ca/ukraine-russia-imperialism-and-national-self-determination/

Posted by: bevin | Jan 18 2023 0:39 utc | 125

Oing. Mr. Powell best get ready…that sound he hears are Eurodollars coming home and USTs being cashed in.
Posted by: Likklemore | Jan 17 2023 23:44 utc | 110

“cashed in”?? Meaning they are exchanged for what exactly? The only option is treasuries are defaulted on, which means they are worthless. It will be the 3rd or 4th (if you count 1971) default in US history, so not unprecedented.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 18 2023 0:41 utc | 126

I know I’m late to the party, but it seems wild to me that Russian forces capture one city in the east and suddenly B. Is talking about Russian victory.
All this talk about armies being destroyed is childish – of course Ukraine is asking for more equipment than most European countries have. Most European countries are demilitarized. Belgium doesn’t dread a French invasion. Nor does Luxembourg. Remember Trump shouting at Germany to meet their NATO obligations?
Russia has been struggling to take Bakhmut for many months now. And they’re not on the offensive anywhere else, so get real.
I see no reason to think the Ukranian won’t literally fight to the last man, plus many of their women. They’re already receiving mercenaries from Poland and Africa. Russian : Allied losses are about 1:1, but who knows if the well of allied bodies will be more or less bottomless than the Russian one? Nobody knows that.

Posted by: GoFast | Jan 18 2023 0:46 utc | 127

Is that you, Miles Mathis?
Posted by: Deplorable | Jan 18 2023 0:26 utc | 122

Clearly not, Miles is at least an entertaining read.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 18 2023 0:47 utc | 128

Opport Knocks:
Oh, I dunno. The attempt to derive Rasmussen from two supposedly Jewish surnames — as opposed to the painfully obvious “son of Rasmus” was good for a tired chuckle.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 18 2023 0:53 utc | 129

Posted by: names | Jan 17 2023 23:03 utc | 101
You’re wrong on about half those names’ origins.
Ex. https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=bormann

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 18 2023 0:58 utc | 130

Fun a fact.
The Russian prison population is approximately 500,000 inmates. That’s a lot of pardons to issue in exchange for a tour of duty in an assault unit. If half that population are fit for a scrappy fight with their Ukie counterparts: city after city will fall to Russian arms.

Posted by: Wokechoke | Jan 18 2023 0:59 utc | 131

Posted by: daffyDuct | Jan 17 2023 23:50 utc | 113
Saw that story earlier and it struck me as a big nothingburger other than that the Ukies are really trying to keep a tight lid on their PR. Fact of the matter is, even if Ukie air defenses intercepted and altered the course of the Russian missile, the Russians are still the ones who fired it inside a (hostile) foreign country. This isn’t a statement on the overall aims or even rightness/wrongness of the SMO/invasion, I just find it silly that it even matters HOW a Russian missile hit an apartment building, even if it was clearly not the intended target.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 18 2023 1:03 utc | 132

new development:
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/Unseasonably-Warm-Weather-Could-Help-End-The-War-In-Ukraine.html
so, does Russia get its frozen tank tracks which
Macgregor has expected in weeks?
what else changes? what are Polish troops and dual
citizen beaurocrats in Ukraine really there for?

Posted by: BLP | Jan 18 2023 1:04 utc | 133

Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 18 2023 1:03 utc | 132
There has been a number of both Ukraine air defense missiles and downed Russian missiles hit buildings. That occurs because Ukraine puts air defenses within the city to protect the air defenses rather than placing them outside the city. War is war and not good civilians getting hit like that but by know Ukraine has a good track record of using human shields to protect its military.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 18 2023 1:16 utc | 134

@ bevin | Jan 18 2023 0:39 utc | 125
thanks.. yes and i agree with your take and push for greater awareness on the fact the ROW wants a change from this and they can see it too…
@ all
ignore names… they change their name constantly.. the post will be deleted… just ignore these types of posts…

Posted by: james | Jan 18 2023 1:28 utc | 135

https://aftershock.news/?q=node/1201202
Putin: JSCs are now allowed to dismiss votes by stockholders from adversarial states

Posted by: Arioch | Jan 18 2023 1:28 utc | 136

@ Marvin @ 4
“The only thing is that we need quite a lot of such batteries to protect as many cities as possible, important objects of critical infrastructure.”
Russia is not launching S-300 or S-400 missiles against ‘cities and/or important objects of critical infrastructure’. The UKRAINIANS are launching S-300’s against incoming cruise-missile attacks, and frequently such anti-air missiles miss their intended target and crash into local apartment buildings, after which the absurd fiction is spun that Russia is using anti-air missiles in a role similar to cruise missiles. They simply do not function that way. The question is if Patriot will intercept modern anti-surface weapons like Kinzhal. And the answer is, unlikely.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/28/patriot-missiles-are-made-in-america-and-fail-everywhere/
The Patriot is simply not a very good system, and America – despite its reputation for technical proficiency – went largely out of the short-range air-defense-system business after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
“However, after the fall of the Soviet Union, the U.S. Army sharply downsized its short-range anti-air capabilities in the belief that they were no longer greatly needed. They trusted that U.S. jet fighters could neutralize most enemy aircraft before they became a problem. Two threats that have grown significantly these days — drones and ground skimming cruise missiles — were minimal at that point: Armed drones were rare and expensive, and the Soviet Union was the only adversary that had many land-attack cruise missiles and it wasn’t expected that other countries, let alone terrorist groups, would develop them.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-sending-troops-saudi-arabia-shows-short-range-air-defenses-ncna1057461
For all its strutting and chest-beating and whooping that Russia better not mess with America, America is not really very prepared to fight Russia, and the comical self-deception being shopped around by its media is not helping anyone’s perception of reality. If it is accurate – and I have no reason to believe it’s not – that the American public is not willing to accept large numbers of American casualties, especially in a foreign war where America itself is not threatened, then Russia and China are the last opponents it should be thinking about taking on.

Posted by: Mark | Jan 18 2023 1:29 utc | 137

Arestovych is way drunk on truth serum.
The admission that a Ukrainian AD destroyed the apartment block was shocking for the Ghost of Kiev-is-real Ukrainians and their NAFO chorus.
But in this interview Arestovych talks absolute unadulterated good sense.
>Telling Russian speaking Ukrainian citizens they are the enemy is dumb and stupid.. he says.
Reporter: What about they should leave to Russia?
Arestovych. Yes. They will leave. Or they will bring Russia here. How dumb are we?
https://twitter.com/e_l_g_c_a/status/1615138445051195392
The comments under the tweet are worth a speed read.
When Arestovych gave this interview is not confirmed.
But it’s surfacing now. Because of his truth re the AD failure.
Here’s the yt https://twitter.com/_michalis12/status/1615282720640303104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gvEo6cEGyY&t=16s
Two hours. Yt auto english subtitles only… (I doubt I’ll watch it)
Channel Description:
…” Alexey Arestovich is a guest of the new release on the YouTube channel of Ramina Eskhakzai. In this interview, Oleksiy Arestovych answered popular questions about the war in Ukraine, national identity, and working with Soviet narratives.
Why Russia could not attack Ukraine in the early years of our independence.
The Tuzla Peninsula and Leonid Kuchma’s reaction to the encroachment on the territorial integrity of Ukraine.
How to respond to the thesis that it was the inhabitants of the East who called the war in Ukraine.
Do we need our own Ukrainian counterpropaganda?
Why Russian propaganda is still available to residents of the de-occupied territories. Russian culture in the information space of Ukraine.
Do we need the so-called “good Russians” now?
How to move from post-Soviet society to an independent Ukrainian society.
Is it correct to ban the Russian language? How to motivate to speak Ukrainian?
Why architectural monuments are important in the search for national self-identification.
As a narrative of the army, language, faith harms Ukrainians. Reference and Russified Ukrainians. The popularity of sharovarshchina in modern Ukrainian culture.
Master class from Alexei Arestovich: how to properly talk with people whose brains are washed by Russian propaganda.
Watch the big episode with Alexei Arestovich on Ramina Eskhakzai’s YouTube channel “Hodyat Rumors”.
He must have a fast moving cancer and just not care anymore.
Nobodies in Kherson have been killed for far less.
Or.
Zelensky out?
Is Zaluzhny too compromised, too bloodied ?
Are we about to see the Ukrainian regime fracture ?
If so, which U$ faction would be behind this? Benefit?
The Biden Papers are taking out Joe. The Dems have lost the House. Pelosi is gone.
Is the Arestovych interview a play to have the snake shed it’s skin…
The U$ will continue its games in Ukraine, but without the celebrity comedian?
With a new cast, the show can go on for Season 2, but it gives the scriptwriters more scope??

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 18 2023 1:31 utc | 138

Be wary about that one. As far as I know, it comes from a Ukraine intelligence official.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 17 2023 22:34 utc | 92
Peter, you are correct. Alexandar Mercouris did say that this report came from an Ukraine intelligent official.
You are correct about being wary about it. And this is what Mercouris said. However, this report did come through Mercouris and he does attempt to be as accurate as possible. This being the case, I give this report more credence than just rumor.
Thanks for your your caution. In the next 2 months we will see what happens on the battle fronts. If Russia does take the Donbas during this time, obiviously this “rumor” will turn out to be correct. Otherwise, just a rumor.

Posted by: young | Jan 18 2023 1:47 utc | 139

Likklemore | Jan 17 2023 23:44 utc | 110
You say that General De Gaulle received answer from US – to take the dollars and not gold – but if my memory serves, France has shipped a lot of gold in submarines from US to France. What is the truth?

Posted by: fanto | Jan 18 2023 1:51 utc | 140

There is alot of U.S forces sitting very near to the Ukrainian border….there has been a secretive mobilization ongoing for several months…some alternative news sources giving a number of 200-250,000 troops in Eastern Europe….enough armour for 4 divisions so I suspect there is a Plan for direct confrontation with Russia or seizure of Ukrainian territory to preclude it falling to Russia. Remember that the definition of victory for the military industrial complex is very different than the general staff. Military Industrial Complex victory is what’s happening now even though Ukraine is getting destroyed….massive new contracts for equipment being sent to the war zone…. frightened European nations greatly expanding their defence budgets… upgraded and modern systems to replace old mothballed junk being used for target practice by Russian tanks and research and development…and testing of equipment under adverse conditions….NATO is winning…well American industrial and economic interests are winning. Russia will add tens of millions new tax payers and vast new industrial infrastructure to it’s economy that the West wants as well but I suspect that is wet dream they will covet and scheme plans within plans to get eventually. I suspect if the Biden crime family/ Democrats are being blackmailed…look no further than a small intelligence service that prides itself on deception and honey pot operations in years past…

Posted by: Joe | Jan 18 2023 1:51 utc | 141

Melaleuca | Jan 18 2023 1:31 utc | 138
There’s something going on. Brits and Poles are pushing tanks and stuff but not the Americans. Biden admin has been telling Zelensky to negotiate and the Brits telling him not to. If he negotiates his gravy train dries up. Perhaps the US intends booting out the British dog and installing their own? Though I see Arestovych has now gone on the kill list website.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 18 2023 1:55 utc | 142

“The Russian prison population is approximately 500,000 inmates. That’s a lot of pardons to issue in exchange for a tour of duty in an assault unit. If half that population are fit for a scrappy fight with their Ukie counterparts: city after city will fall to Russian arms.”
Posted by: Wokechoke | Jan 18 2023 0:59 utc | 131
Thanks for the number of Russian prison population. Not caring a lot about you personal life can be an asset in asault actions. On the other hand, you don’t want your troops to be suicidal either.
Wagner knows what it needs in a soldier. I am sure they vet their recruits very carefully, selecting those who have the criteria they need for success on the battlefield.
Even if 10% of the 500,000 meet this criteria, Wagner is going to be very busy in training that additional 50,000.

Posted by: young | Jan 18 2023 1:58 utc | 143

@ Peter AU1 | Jan 18 2023 1:55 utc | 142 quote –
“Though I see Arestovych has now gone on the kill list website.”
speaking the truth will get you killed or worse in ukraine… speaking of which – what ever happenned to gonzala lire?

Posted by: james | Jan 18 2023 2:00 utc | 144

@26
Well, she wasn’t wrong.

Posted by: Olbastard | Jan 18 2023 2:01 utc | 145

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 17 2023 18:30 utc | 1
Lol.

Posted by: let’s get bizzay | Jan 18 2023 2:02 utc | 146

Re: Posted by: smashsc | Jan 17 2023 18:45 utc | 3
Absolutely laughable prognosis and predictions from you – doing just what b called out!!! – ascribing goals to the Russians that they have never stated and will never do!!
Poor effort champ.

Posted by: Julian | Jan 18 2023 2:02 utc | 147

@ Opport Knocks 126
Simply put. After the sanctions, seizures, eviction from SWIFT, trust is lost.
There is an urgency to exit the dollar (USTs) no longer trusted.
“USTs Cashed In” smart Central Bankers and high worth individuals are buying gold — the real money for over 5,000 years. Gold has no Counterparty risks. The old axiom remains, gold’s purchasing power is stable.
Also as in “Cashing In USTs” for commodities. Ask China.
Those USTs eventually will find their origin back to Powell and Yellen. What will they do with the paper?
Wall papering comes to mind. KSA’s announcement is a major setback for USA budget.
It was held that a defeat for USNATO in the UKR conflict will end US dollar. After Xi’s visit to Riyadh in December 2022 and, his speech at the GCC, I expected an announcement by KSA in late April. It happened today. This date, January 17, 2023, will be recorded in history books. US has been living off the savings of the ROW. On.borrowed. money.
Watch the BRICS, GCC, SCO grow in global importance while US led-NATO countries decline.

Posted by: Likklemore | Jan 18 2023 2:08 utc | 148

Re: Posted by: pasha | Jan 17 2023 19:21 utc | 17

I would have thought that Biden is blackmail-proof. Somewhere in the collapsing labyrinths of his brain he must understand that he cannot run for a second term as president, so all he has to do is threaten to resign in favor of Kamala Harris. That prospect should deter even the most rabid of neocons.

Au contraire – the NeoCons love Kamala – she’s an empty vessel with no original thoughts – ripe to be told what to do and just go and do it without a thought in the works as to the consequences – she’s too stupid!!
She’s even too stupid to be properly corrupt on a grand scale like the Bidens, Clinton’s & Pelosi!

Posted by: Julian | Jan 18 2023 2:09 utc | 149

@ Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Jan 18 2023 0:12 utc | 119
Seems like the Chechens have moved south, to Ugledar. There is a video of them released today capturing 5 or 6 Ukrainian troops.
Since there is snow on the ground, it is fairly recent.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Qx0pXe6pmwxy/
This is interesting, They are in a location to drive to the north, or to attack the flank of a Ukraine offensive toward Mariupol. Either way, they will be involved at some point.

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jan 18 2023 2:09 utc | 150

Gonzalo Lira still posts YouTube videos.
Yves Smith probably took a male pen name for the same reason female authors have done so in the past. So men will take her more seriously.

Posted by: Simon | Jan 18 2023 2:15 utc | 151

” new development:
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/Unseasonably-Warm-Weather-Could-Help-End-The-War-In-Ukraine.html
so, does Russia get its frozen tank tracks which
Macgregor has expected in weeks?
what else changes? what are Polish troops and dual
citizen beaurocrats in Ukraine really there for?
Posted by: BLP | Jan 18 2023 1:04 utc | 133 ”
What a bad development for Russia. Not only are oil prices going down, and the warm weather allows Europe to re-fill their oil supplies, but the ground is too soft for Russian tanks to roll. This has got to be one of the worst cases of Murphy’s law in human history. If one was to believe in such things, one would be forced to conclude that there is weather manipulation going on. However, thats just tin foil hat talk.

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Jan 18 2023 2:23 utc | 152

james | Jan 18 2023 2:00 utc | 144
Lira’s still about.
As for Arestovych on the kill list, how long his name stays there remains to be seen. Much depends on who is backing him though from what he has been saying, many of the nazi’s would like to kill him. Musk was on it for half hour or so.
From one of the Ukraine channels, they thing he might be playing to the southeastern audience – as in elections though what he has been saying would play to most of central Ukraine. The other interesting thing is that the map of Poland for TV weather reports now includes western Ukraine as part of Poland which takes the nazi’s out of the equation if that occurs – so Arestovych may well be thinking about a political career in Rump Ukaine.
Anyway, whatever is going on, there seems to be a little more than meets the eye.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 18 2023 2:27 utc | 153

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Jan 18 2023 2:23 utc | 151
“If one was to believe in such things, one would be forced to conclude that there is weather manipulation going on. However, thats just tin foil hat talk.”
Tin foil hat talk indeed. Googily eyed old cranks are a real hoot, though!
Barring nuclear war or the Gulf Stream shutting down, Europe will never return to the winters it had 100 years ago…or even 40 years ago. The reason is obvious, well-documented and simple to understand for anyone with moderate physics skills. But keep spinning your nutty-heads around barking at the moon about weather manipulation. LMAO!
You have to remember, Putin and his crew are aware of the milder winters and have planned accordingly.
Russia isn’t in a hurry to go on any offensives that require frozen ground. That is a misreading of the situation. A misreading that seems to have led you down a long and faulty path of bad logic…similar to the Jewish Name Conspiracy. The old cranks start with what they want to believe and work backwards from there.

Posted by: Haassaan | Jan 18 2023 2:36 utc | 154

” similar to the Jewish Name Conspiracy. The old cranks start with what they want to believe and work backwards from there.
Posted by: Haassaan | Jan 18 2023 2:36 utc | 153 ”
Absolutely ! Jews have no power in this world anybody that says otherwise is obviously mentally ill. For instance, just look at all these mentally ill nations, empires, and countries. What a bunch of anti-Semites.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsions_and_exoduses_of_Jews

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Jan 18 2023 2:51 utc | 155

Posted by: Likklemore | Jan 18 2023 2:08 utc | 148
“Those USTs eventually will find their origin back to Powell and Yellen. What will they do with the paper?
Wall papering comes to mind. KSA’s announcement is a major setback for USA budget.”
——
One way to deal with the potential flood of UST redemptions is to destroy the value of outstanding USTs by raising interest rates. Rate rises to date have wiped out 20% to 30% of long-dated value. I could easily see the Fed continuing rate rises to 7%, not to fight inflation, rather to help the USG deal with the thorny isdue of redemptions by destroying the value held by wary foreigners before they can sell or realize through redemptions.

Posted by: Cato the Uncensored | Jan 18 2023 2:54 utc | 156

It’s taken me awhile to get to it but I’m finally reading the transcript from the first Geopolitical Economy podcast with Hudson and Desai. At the end of Hudson’s opening remarks is this observation:
“In their class war against labor, looking for lower-priced labor abroad, they have cut their own industrial labor force, but they’ve also shifted the center of manufacturing, technology, agriculture — everything has shifted to Eurasia and the southern hemisphere.
“The United States turns out to have left itself alone [i.e. isolated itself]. The problem that is frustrating American diplomats is: How are they going to dominate the world without industrial leadership, with debt deflation, with a debt that is much higher than other countries. How on earth can they lead, in a weakening position, without any military?” [My Emphasis]
Yes indeed, how can an industrial war be waged without a viable industrial base? Why has Biden said he doesn’t want direct war between the Outlaw US Empire and Russia? Might that admission be related to the very big problem bolded above? Prior to the above citation, Hudson also says this:
“There is nothing in between a targeted assassination attempt and an atom bomb [to coerce nations].”
Yes, he omitted the Color Revolution tool, but that’s very similar to assassination.
Some barflies think the MIC will profit greatly via additional arms sales to NATO nations. But what does the MIC have to offer that’s any good? Everything sent to Ukraine is mostly old and obsolescent, and that’s not how you promote MIC’s products–they must be shown to be proficient in combat. A-10, F-14, F-15, and F-16 all proved very worthy and are still good jets, but they’re no longer top-of-the-line, and the F-22 and F-35 have proven to be lemons. Tanks? Where’s the Abram’s replacement? And the Bradley joke? Etc. And now that you’ve deindustrialized the EU and caused massive inflation while driving up the future cost-of-living, what EU/NATO nation is going to have the $$ to purchase anything that might prove worthy? Germany says it’s going to double its military budget, but from whom and what will it buy now that everything costs 4X as much or more? As Crooke intones: Didn’t think that through did they?
Recall The Mouse that Roared? What’s happening is a twisted version of that plot and the RoW is finding its voice.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 18 2023 3:01 utc | 157

I see the Ukraine being the sad but deserving victim of its own folly. Nazi Hungary,Romania ,Slovakia and Croatia were the undeserving recipients of Soviet /Titoist forgiveness and investment after WWII. Somehow, I believe rump “Ukraine “ will be wearing sackcloth ,pulling their hair and heaping ash on their heads . This time around Russia and the ROW will not be as forgiving. Ukraine wanted Nato/USism/ Nazism?. Well they can live it ; via the lebensraum and Morganthau Plan that both Hitler and the US/Churchill liked so much. I will sleep soundly at night. I love it when bootlicking malefactors get kicked in the guts once they lose. Yep…sweet dreams for me.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Jan 18 2023 3:04 utc | 158

@8 SwissArmyMan “As far as I can tell the US is not mobilizing war production at all and given our ability to produce weapons that work went out door long ago I don’t think the Russians have anything to worry about.”
From what I am reading the US Goverment is throwing money around like a drunken sailor in order to mobilize US industry for war production.
The MIC is pocketing that money with a “thanks, dude!” but then admitting that it is going to take many years to ramp up production.
The non-MIC manufacturing sector isn’t taking a share of that money because, frankly, it doesn’t exist any more.
Shipbuilding? What shipbuilding industry?
Commercial aircraft? Well, there is Boeing and…. err… Boeing.
Automobile production? Have you been on a sight-see of Detroit?
There is the MIC – which can’t ramp up production quickly – and then there isn’t much of anything else.
Well, OK, there is, but it is all in China now.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jan 18 2023 3:06 utc | 159

“World’s Oldest Known Person Reportedly Dies at Age 118”
This headline is from Sputnik International today.
There’s a whole state of affairs expressed in the word “reportedly.” This French nun, Lucile Randon, was immutably deceased when this headline was composed. What the story was about.
These days ‘reportedly’ and variants are seen everywhere in the news. It’s a good sign–though its widespread use indicates nothing much these days in print is trusted as truth or taken for granted. We are waking up.
May she rest in peace.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Jan 18 2023 3:09 utc | 160

#156
… “But what does the MIC have to offer that’s any good? Everything sent to Ukraine is mostly old and obsolescent, and that’s not how you promote MIC’s products …”
The replacement weapons don’t have to be “good” but “costly”. As far as “promoting”, it’s more like “imposing” to me. Well, perhaps a bit of bribing, too.

Posted by: Sektion2B | Jan 18 2023 3:12 utc | 161

Here’s hoping ‘We kept the aggressor out of west Ukraine and Europe’ is a good enough narrative. Looks to me as if the so called slow grind is deliberate. At sometime NATO has to call ‘match over’ or it goes nuclear.

Posted by: Inki | Jan 18 2023 3:12 utc | 162

Posted by: catdog | Jan 17 2023 21:38 utc | 71
Posted by: Outraged | Jan 17 2023 22:55 utc | 100
catdog, I do remember your post. You remarked that you would believe that the HIMARS was destroyed when the video came out and you added they show up with a lag period of some number of days. 10 to 14? I don’t recall exactly.

Posted by: Bill Smith | Jan 18 2023 3:24 utc | 163

” Some barflies think the MIC will profit greatly via additional arms sales to NATO nations. But what does the MIC have to offer that’s any good? And now that you’ve deindustrialized the EU and
Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 18 2023 3:01 utc | 156 ”
Let me introduce you to the concept of the company store.
Furthermore, its been a publicly stated goal of the
” single eye groups ” to de-militarize the whole world while leaving one single military under the control of a world government, this might also be happening. Dont you love a good show ?
https://socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu/programs/housing/company-towns-1890s-to-1935/

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Jan 18 2023 3:24 utc | 164

Once again the handwringing types on this platform want to shut down discussion of Jewish surnames etc. Well pee -off.
I for one do not believe the overall list produced ,and I would have mentioned fewer names with much better sourcing or evidence, yet one can throw away the baby with the bathwater. Such discussions should only be shut down here on this thread because they are too off -topic or b is afraid of having his whole site shut down by Israel Firster vigilantees . There is no right to having it shit down because it offends some people. Go cry elsewhere.
P.s just a cursory reading of his post. Roosevelt, Stalin ,Heydrich, Hitler, Milch etc all had Jewish antecedents. So does Putin and Merkel. Closest to Jewish roots? Putin ,Hitler , Heydrich and Milch by a long -shot. Did you know that Hitler had himself excused from Nazi Blood Laws? He wasn’t sure of his own ancestry . Yep, only him and a few others , and he decreed others be excused by decree . Who ? Milch and Heydrich.
Want to know some more? WEF Schwab and Churchill(his mum was one of the US Jeromes who were originally Jacobsons. ) She was so dark and stereotypically Jewish -looking she would go about telling people she was part American Indian. Yes, she was a dramaqueen and voracious maneater to boot. Churchill looked English because of his goggle- eyed Dad. Churchill was the product of a real-life “Downton Abbey “ marriage.
As for Putin? I think he is great , and even if part Jewish ,is still Part ethnic Russian and even if Jewish is not a zionist. So crybabies who like shutting down discussions…fock off.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Jan 18 2023 3:25 utc | 165

@ fanto 140
The USD was redeemable in gold until August 15, 1971.
This background may be helpful
Nixon Ends Convertibility of the Dollar to Gold

[.]
Since 1958, when the Bretton Woods system became operational, countries settled their international balances in dollars, and U.S. dollars were convertible to gold at a fixed exchange rate of $35 an ounce. The United States had the responsibility of keeping the dollar price of gold fixed and had to adjust the supply of dollars to maintain confidence in future gold convertibility.
[.]From 1962 until the closing of the U.S. gold window in August 1971, the Federal Reserve relied on “currency swaps” as its key mechanism for temporarily defending the U.S. gold stock. The Federal Reserve structured the reciprocal currency arrangements, or swap lines, by providing foreign central banks cover for unwanted dollar reserves, limiting the conversion of dollars to gold.[.]
Source: USFederalReserveHistory.

And from Canada’s Fraser Institute:
Learn from ‘Nixon’s Shock’ – Control Central Bankers, limit ability to debase currency

[.]Back in 1913, anyone could present U.S. currency to the authorities to receive gold (then at the rate of $20.67 per ounce). This provided a check on inflation—if U.S. authorities printed too many dollars, it would weaken the dollar against other currencies (such as the British pound) and eventually set up an arbitrage where speculators would turn in dollars for gold in New York, ship the gold across the Atlantic to London, present the gold for pounds, then go to the forex market to turn their British pounds back into more U.S. dollars than they started with. Thus if the U.S. inflated too aggressively, it would lose gold to other countries.
Yet under Bretton Woods, only other central banks were allowed to present U.S. dollars to the American government for redemption in gold. Moreover, in practise even this formal power was pooh-poohed. When the Federal Reserve inflated the money supply in the 1950s and 1960s to pay for the Korean and Vietnam wars, for example, this fuelled domestic inflation and contributed to trade deficits (as foreign imports became relatively cheaper than U.S.-made goods). Under Bretton Woods, rather than settling up in gold, America’s trading partners were encouraged to reconcile trade deficits by stockpiling dollar-denominated financial assets such as U.S. government bonds.
Eventually this situation became unacceptable to those who did not enjoy the Americans’ “exorbitant privilege.” For example, French president Charles de Gaulle famously announced his intention (in 1965) to exchange his country’s dollar assets for gold. These pressures eventually led Nixon to announce that the United States would no longer even allow foreign central banks to redeem dollars for gold. (emphasis added)
Source: LINK

Fast Forward. 2022 –
Bretton Woods 111 unfolding. Petroyuan, PetroGOld, BRICS coin…..
A highly recommended read is the best detailed review of “Outlook 2023” by Zoltan Pozsar, Credit Suisse (Original requires subscription or CS Wealth Management client)
The dusk of the petrodollar, the dawn of petroyuan
LINK

Credit Suisse contributor Zoltan Pozsar has continued his ongoing series about Bretton Woods III where commodities will dictate the new world order. For his last dispatch of the year, he described how the world is now shifting to a multipolar order “being built not by G7 heads of state but by the ‘G7 of the East’ (the BRICS heads of state).”
BRICS stands for the group of five nations: Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa. But Pozsar said that with the poised expansion via rumored applications for Saudi Arabia, Turkey, or Egypt, he took the liberty to round up the current “G5.”
The author focused on Chinese President Xi Jinping’s speech at the recent summit in the Arab states, which for Pozsar is very telling on how Beijing plans to outmaneuver the West in global economy.
“Fixed income investors should care – not just because the invoicing of oil in renminbi will hurt the dollar’s might, but also because commodity encumbrance means more inflation for the West,” Pozsar said.[.]

Posted by: Likklemore | Jan 18 2023 3:27 utc | 166

@74 alek_a: “They can start flying sorties somewhat inside Ukraine with their recon aircraft to guide drones towards bases.”
They’ll be shot down if they do that.
Fly right along the border, maybe, but not fly inside Ukrainian airspace.
“They can send troops from Romania and Poland to station inside Ukraine near Western borders to “protect” from a Russian offensive.”
I am of two minds regarding this possibility.
From the Ukrainian PoV the problem of Poland sending troops into Lviv is that once they are there they may be very reluctant to leave. All sorts of alarm bells might go off in Kyiv if the Polish troops start referring to Lviv as “Lwów”.
And there may be some concern within the corridors of power in Brussels regarding who is playing whom e.g. suspicions that the Poles didn’t go in with the blessing of “the West” so much as they went in with the blessing of the Kremlin.
Because that’s the danger: if the Poles go into western Ukraine with their own agenda (annexation of the territory they “lost” in 1945) then that will greatly undercut the faux-outrage over Russia’s annexation of territory in the eastern part of Ukraine.
Maybe the Russians will calculate that this discord within NATO outweighs the dangers of having NATO soldiers being officially stationed inside the western territory of Ukraine.
Or… maybe not.
Maybe the Kremlin will issue blood-curdling threats if the Poles so much as run this up the flagpole.
The danger of living in interesting times, I suppose.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jan 18 2023 3:28 utc | 167

In other news.
The world’s second worst “z” grade propaganda and crappiest poorest conspiracy reporting media. Known for writing fake news on deceased VIPs. The Guardian’s “Fake News is our specialty” since foundation day. Claims Oz troopers are training another group of fresh Country 404 cannon fodder in the UK.`
The Oz trainers with zero experience with the killer bomber drones of the RF allied armies. Country 404 soldiers’ life expectancy on the Eastern front just took another step to self “insta death”.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jan 18 2023 3:33 utc | 168

‘Amazingly, in the long article by the American Committee for US Russia accord, not once is the real problem, the existential problem mentioned.’
Yes the existential threat was totally underplayed. I like the piece in the doco where the journalist asks Putin why he is worried about the NATO missiles as they are pointed at Iran and Putin laughs/chuckles and thanks the journalist for lightening the end of a hard working day.
Can’t remember if it was Ein naehrer blick auf Wladimir Putin or Das ist nicht unserer Krieg. O

Posted by: Inki | Jan 18 2023 3:37 utc | 169

Posted by: Brother Ma | Jan 18 2023 3:25 utc | 164
The Jewish surname mob are simply trolls, designed to destroy the reputation of this blog. They have NO other function. NAZI Germany was 80-90 years ago and is irrelevant now, even if true (which is unlikely). It is about as relevant as discussions as to which roman generals were gay or did Henry VIII have syphilis.
So join the real world. Yes there is a banking cabal. Yes they are powerful and influence the world in a bad way and yes more than a reasonable share are Jewish, but it is not about being Jewish. It is about CLASS ie a rich aristocracy that control many things. All wealthy aristocrats have deep family ties- cousins marrying cousins etc- just look at the royals. there are plenty of other cabals of influence that are destructive for example, masons, Yacht and golfing clubs, the gambling magnates, Opus Dei etc.
So cut it with the abhorrent racist crap and get a brain.

Posted by: watcher | Jan 18 2023 3:38 utc | 170

@Tom_Q_Collins (130) “You’re wrong on about half those names’ origins.”
There are lots of names that are shared by people of German and Jewish descent. I’m 99% certain that “Hitler” is not one of them.

Posted by: Rob | Jan 18 2023 3:47 utc | 171

And now, some fun from Davos: “I believe Ukrainian membership in NATO would be [an] appropriate outcome.” (Henry Kissinger)

Posted by: Sektion2B | Jan 18 2023 3:48 utc | 172

Yeah, Right | Jan 18 2023 3:28 utc | 166 “Maybe the Kremlin will issue blood-curdling threats if the Poles so much as run this up the flagpole.”
Medvedev, Putin and I think lavrov or perhaps head of security council have publicly warned Ukraine that Poland intends taking west Ukraine. Putin basically gave Poland the nod when he said Stalin adding Galicia to Ukraine was a bad mistake.
Something I ran onto in twitter or telegram but the head of SVR said something about his meeting with Burns. I could make it out properly what he was saying just from the bit I saw but a few other things. Martyanov believes the US Russia security meetings in Turkiye were about setting red lines.
Macgregor in a recent interview said US was likely to get directly involved if Russia has too big of a win just as b has written in his article. I think those meetings were about divying up Ukraine. I think Russia will be able to clear Donbas but that is it. They go further and that crosses a US red line. Once I thought about that, what the SVR head said made a bit more sense.
Russia can afford to sit on the borders of its new territories, apart from right bank Kherson and wait as time is on its side.
Perhaps its something along the lines of Russia getting the east, Nato Poland getting the west and rump being Ukraine the buffer zone.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 18 2023 3:51 utc | 173

@Yeah, Right (158)
Just so you know, Detroit is not the only US city where cars are made. And as far as I can tell, US carmakers are not shutting down.

Posted by: Rob | Jan 18 2023 3:58 utc | 174

Hitler’s father allegedly the wealthy Jew Hitler’s mum worked for. But so what? You’re either a bastard or you’re not.
Kissinger obviously put through the grinder over previous comments on peace. Now backtracking.

Posted by: Inki | Jan 18 2023 3:58 utc | 175

karlof1@156
i thought you were aware of amarynth’s new site, GlobalSouth. while it’s part of the saker, it’s independent. she posted the interview, maybe 2 days ago now…things are moving so quickly i lose track of time. i’ll try to give you the link, Grieved posted it day or so back. thesaker.is.globalsouth as you are well aware my ability to post links is frustrating @ best. amarynth is gold. although i knew her through the saker & the cafe, larch linked to her some months back on smoothie’s site & she’s now my first thing goto. being located in mexico & focussed on the global south i am pretty sure you’ll love her too.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Jan 18 2023 3:59 utc | 176

karlof1 | Jan 18 2023 3:01 utc | 156
The joys of a so called service industry. That has been pushed onto us for some time as the cure all to lack of productive work. The baker gives the prostitute a loaf of bread and the prostitute services the baker but the actually produce nothing…. unless baking could be termed a manufacturing or primary industry.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 18 2023 4:00 utc | 177

Rob, true enough, but the list is a lot shorter than one might expect:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automotive_assembly_plants_in_the_United_States

Posted by: josh | Jan 18 2023 4:01 utc | 178

Deplorable Commissar @154: So who were you in your last lifetime…Genrich Yagoda? By this posting you have self-identified your ethnicity.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 18 2023 4:03 utc | 179

By the way – Oleksii Arestovych was born in Georgia and raised in Belarus. His parents were Pole and Russian.

Posted by: Malwen | Jan 18 2023 4:08 utc | 180

Hashhashim @152:
Well now we have two possibilities inherent in your dismissing the reality of weather “modification”. As far back as 1977 there was a monthly publication which headlined on page one “Weather or Not”. The article dealt with the then ongoing weather warfare between the then USSR and that entity now having earned the sobriquet of U$$A. If you would kindly abjure the propaganda from Wickedpedia and seek out other sources, you will discover that this topic has been discussed by numerous researchers, some focusing on the HAARP U$$A AirFarce installation at Gokona, Alaska.
Thus the pair of possibilities are (1. that you happen to be a media-mesmerized moron OR (2. that you are in the employ or contract status with a taxpayer funded organization which wishes for the issue to be dissed and then swept under the rug. In my estimation, in either instance, you appear to have the identity of a creature from Norse folklore.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 18 2023 4:12 utc | 181

One way to deal with the potential flood of UST redemptions is to destroy the value of outstanding USTs by raising interest rates. Rate rises to date have wiped out 20% to 30% of long-dated value. I could easily see the Fed continuing rate rises to 7%, not to fight inflation, rather to help the USG deal with the thorny is due of redemptions by destroying the value held by wary foreigners before they can sell or realize through redemptions.
Posted by: Cato the Uncensored | Jan 18 2023 2:54 utc | 155
What is the discussion centered on? US Treasury Notes or Bills (USTs) or US Bonds? There is a difference.
Bonds typically mature 20-30 years some up to 50 years. Have you check the bond market lately? Don’t. Bond holders are going to need lots of luck
Treasury Bill or Treasury Notes (UST) is short term, matures a few weeks to a year. Notes are 2, 5 years. These are the instruments used by international companies in export trade.
Did you write “raise interest rates to destroy the value of outstanding USTs”? Never mind. Your thinking underscores why there is an urgency to exit USD instruments.
What does that do to Uncle Sam’s $32 Trillion debt? Do you think he will be able to pay? As interest rates rise government needs more revenues to service the national debt. If the Fed goes to 7% Uncle Sam is done. Ms. Yellen is in panic.

Posted by: Likklemore | Jan 18 2023 4:15 utc | 182

D.C. @151
This “tinfoil hat” meme you are pushing was first used by the same “outlets” which worked on behalf of. orders from the Agency that people who refused the Warren Coverup Commission’s “magic bullet theory were “Conspiracy Theorists.” The CIA and its various cutouts work in mysterious ways

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 18 2023 4:16 utc | 183

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ #Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 17 Jan 2023⚡️
♦️#Belgorod Region:
▪️ Russian Air defence forces intercepted aerial targets in the #Belgorod region during the night.
▪️ In the morning, Ukrainian terror formations hit the outskirts of #Shebekino town. Power lines were damaged, civilians were not injured.
▪️ The enemy terrorists shelled the village of #Dolgoye in Valuysky urban district. Residential buildings were hit and one civilian was injured.
♦️#Starobelsk Direction (MAP):
▪️ Artillery duels continue in the #Kupyansk – #Svatovo section. Russian troops hit an AFU deployment point in #Kupyansk and also worked on enemy positions in #Kislovka and #Dvurechnaya.
➖ Along the frontline, Ukrainian drones search for Russian positions and aiming artillery at them.
▪️ In the #Liman section, Russian units, supported by armoured vehicles and artillery, are conducting an offensive at the #Makeyevka – Balka Zhuravka line.
♦️#Soldear Direction (MAP):
▪️ Wagner PMC assault troops have completed the sweep of #Soledar’s environs and underground communications.
➖ Russian forces are conducting an offensive towards AFU strongholds in #Blagodatnoye, #Krasnopolye, #Razdolovka and #Veseloye.
➖ North of Bakhmut, fighting continues near #Paraskovievka and Krasnaya Gora.
▪️ The RF Armed Forces are fighting in the urban area of #Bakhmut. The Ukrainian command has moved additional forces into the city to reinforce defences.
▪️ South of #Bakhmut, fierce fighting for #Kleshchiyevka continues. The movement of the Russian units is complicated by numerous strongholds, the terrain and constant enemy artillery fire.
♦️#Donetsk Direction (MAP):
▪️ In the #Avdeyevka sector, Russian forces expanded the bridgehead around #Opytnoye and pushed the AFU out of positions on the eastern outskirts of #Vodyanoye.
▪️ Fighting continues in #Maryinka. Russian motorised riflemen broke through enemy defences in the city centre and pushed the militants to the Western outskirts.
▪️ The Ukrainian terrorist formations shelled populated areas of the #Donetsk agglomeration with cannon and rocket artillery.
During the night, the Ukrainian terrorist forces fired HIMARS rockets at the town of #Khartsyzsk. A machine-building plant, a furniture shop and residential buildings were damaged. There were no dead or injured.
♦️#Zaporozhye Region:
▪️ Artillery duels continue along the line of contact. Russian troops hit enemy concentrations in #Gulyaypole, Malaya Tokmachka, #Novoandreyevka, #Stepovoye and #Kamenskoye.
♦️#Kherson Direction on Southern Front:
▪️ Russian artillery hit AFU concentrations in #Kherson, #Antonovka, #Kachkarovka, #Tyaginka and #Ingulets.
In turn, the Ukrainian terrorist formations shelled residential buildings and infrastructure in #Kakhovka. Two civilians were killed and two more were wounded.

https://t.me/sitreports/3458

Posted by: Down South | Jan 18 2023 4:17 utc | 184

🇺🇦🚫💡⚡️Prime Minister of Ukraine says that 9 thermal power plants have been damaged, 1 of them in the east of the country and 8 in the west. Because of this, there is a shortage of generation and the need for emergency light outages

https://t.me/azmilitary11/33899

Posted by: Down South | Jan 18 2023 4:19 utc | 185

💥🇩🇪🇺🇦 Hugo Boss announced that it would make 100,000 military uniforms to support the Ukrainians.
Eighty years ago, the Wehrmacht and the SS troops had the most elegant uniforms of World War II, thanks to this tailoring and the slave labor of thousands of prisoners.
Eros and Ares go hand in hand: if you have to kill, flirt and rape, at least do it in style.
Hugo Ferdinand Boss:
▪️ Member and benefactor of the National Socialist Party and the SS since 1931
▪️ His most striking creations: the “brown shirts”, the uniforms of the SS, the Hitler Youth and the Wehrmacht.
▪️Therefore, more than 100,000 Ukrainian SS stormtroopers wore clothes of this brand.
Unlike other companies that collaborated with the Third Reich, such as IBM, Siemens, BMW, Hugo Boss is consistent with these ideas: it supported and continues to support the Nazi ideals in fundamental, moral and aesthetic terms, which are unashamedly manifested in Ukraine with the blessing of the West

https://t.me/geromanat/4529

Posted by: Down South | Jan 18 2023 4:22 utc | 186

Peter AU1 @176–
Was talking about Eurasian demographics with the wife at dinner and how wealth distribution could be performed by properly located manufacturing centers and development regions. Currently, Russia and China lack labor and host many migrant laborers. Both could use more, particularly Russia in its Arctic and Far East regions. South Asia is the clear source of the needed labor, but the pull of Russia’s economic magnet hasn’t reached there yet. I see lots of jobs in the logistics sector as lots of commodities will be moving along all the new Eurasian transit corridors. And with the merger of BRI and EAEU, that sector will boom. Service the boom. I know what I’d do if I was 40 again–Go West!

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 18 2023 4:23 utc | 187

Ukrainian soldiers crossing over to Russian side
More and more Ukrainian soldiers in the Zaporozhye direction are opting to come over to the Russian side, Vladimir Rogov, leader of the We Are Together with Russia movement, said on Tuesday.
“More and more guys are crossing over to the other side, finding a way to do it,” he said in an interview with the Solovyov Live television channel.
He said that he is speaking not about one or five soldiers but there are more than ten of them, who “don’t want to fight, kill, and ultimately, die for the [Ukrainian President Vladimir] Zelensky regime.” “Our soldiers at defense posts are also perplexed to see so many people who say they want to surrender,” he added.
According to Rogov, anti-retreat units have been formed in the Ukrainian army, mostly from militants of nationalist battalions and special forces. “They are not deployed to the first line of engagement, they are deployed to the second and third lines,” he said. “Notably, in the Zaporozhye direction, anti-retreat units – punitive structures – are made of militants of the Azov nationalist battalion (outlawed in Russia as a terrorist organization – TASS), Kraken and other Nazi units, which terrorize territorial defense soldiers in Zaporozhye.”
He told TASS earlier that militants from the Kraken and Azov nationalist battalions deployed to the contact line in the Zaporozhye region as anti-retreat units have killed seven and wounded 18 soldiers of Ukrainian territorial defense units since mid-December. The Ukrainian side says, however, that these soldiers had been killed in combat operations, he added.
“>https://tass.com/world/1563571

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/29398

Posted by: Down South | Jan 18 2023 4:24 utc | 188

Bad Deal Motors On | Jan 18 2023 3:33 utc | 167
Your opinion of The Guardian is valid.
But a broken clock is correct twice a day….
Indeed, the Australians *are* “training” Ukrainians.
This, IMVHO, is because the “trainers” will blend in with their protégés and cross into Ukraine with alphabet soup of tanks, AD, and whatever else.
Here’s Ben Wallace announcement re Australian trainers…
https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1588516519713062914
And AUKUS is getting another airing
https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1600631728455942144
Kiwis. You get to play too.
Oleksii Reznikov
Ukraine government official
Minister of Defence of Ukraine
Kia ora!
I was glad to welcome my NZ colleague @PeeniHenare. in Kyiv. We discussed our joint projects,ways to strengthen defense capabilities&coordinated efforts to rebuild after the war. Thank you for your willingness to promote Ukraine’s interests in Southeast Asia
ghttps://twitter.com/oleksiireznikov/status/1594258351655104512

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 18 2023 4:26 utc | 189

Watcher @169
The whole “Jewish Surname” hooha was purely a form of false-flag, coming in at #101. The aim was to besmirch those who are fully aware of the Talmudist Agenda; a “class” grouping of individuals, such as the Neocons and most of Biden’s cabinet who are not merely Jewish, per se, but who happen to be closely connected. Most Jewish peoples as individuals are not connected. “Loose Lips Sink Ships”. “Too many cooks spoil the broth”. “Need to know”. The Talmudist Agenda is not shared with those who are mere “nudniks”.
One of the many objectives of the enemies of humanity is for those who are connected to be able to hide behind the skirts of ordinary, everyday folks who happen to be Jewish. There happen to be many Jewish individuals who are vehemently opposed to the agendas. Check out Aaron Mate’ , Ron Unz and Michael Chossudovsky and the late Senator Paul Wellstone who happen to be enlightened souls who oppose the Agenda.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 18 2023 4:30 utc | 190

karlof1 | Jan 18 2023 4:23 utc | 186
Karl, that is interesting on China being short of labor. I did not realize that but it makes sense as I have seen a few docos where parents from rural villages leave the children with the grandparents and go to the cities to work. One thing a peasants and the old time rural people – they have a work ethic.
I have told friends if I were young, I would be heading to eastern Russia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 18 2023 4:33 utc | 191

Malwen | Jan 18 2023 4:08 utc | 179
Arrgh…
Arestovych antecedents. Render him suspect.
He’s not a “real” Ukrainian.
It’s now obvious why such traitorous words trip so easily from his lips.
Duct tape him to a street pole immediately.
Flail his buttocks.
Point and laugh at his winter withered willy.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 18 2023 4:35 utc | 192

From
https://sonar21.com/facts-on-the-ground-in-ukraine-force-shift-in-media-narrative/

“Russia would then be stuck in a decades-long guerrilla war that would make Afghanistan look like a picnic.”


Back in February last year, the Canadastani propagandist Gwynne Dyer (which among other things claims billionaires are the “best leaders for poor countries” because “they are already rich and so will not steal any more”) said that Russia would annex all of Ukraine in a couple of weeks after which it would be a prolonged guerrilla war. Nobody apparently told it that there won’t be any guerrilla war if there aren’t any nazis left alive to fight one.

“Someone needs to remind Rachman that there are some other countries in the world not willing to ignore Russia, such as China, India, Malaysia, South Africa, Egypt, Turkey and Brazil, just to mention a few.”


This is a question I repeatedly asked the rainbow haired liberal freaks on Twitter which keep claiming Russia is “isolated”: why are they so racist and nazi as to pretend all of Africa, South America, and Asia (bar the colonies of South Koreastan, Japanistan, and Singaporestan) don’t exist?

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 18 2023 4:36 utc | 193

Peter AU1 | Jan 18 2023 4:00 utc | 176
Commerce between the baker and the ho.
Produces nothing? What about a “bun in the oven”?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 18 2023 4:38 utc | 194

@Wokechoke 131

“The Russian prison population is approximately 500,000 inmates. That’s a lot of pardons to issue in exchange for a tour of duty in an assault unit. If half that population are fit for a scrappy fight with their Ukie counterparts: city after city will fall to Russian arms.”

Prigozhin has strict criteria for volunteering: among other things, no sex or drug related crime convicts need apply. That narrows the pool a lot, seeing that white collar financial criminals are hardly likely to volunteer in the first place.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 18 2023 4:42 utc | 195

Down South @187
When are we gonna see large numbers of those conscript frontline units launching attack against those Banderite enforcement units and doing the entire world a favor and killing off those bassturds. After that bit of business they logically would raise white flags and hands after ditching their weapons and promptly surrendering en masse to the RU forces. In doing so they would not only save their own lives but also contribute to the future of a NovoUkrainia.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 18 2023 4:46 utc | 196

” Deplorable Commissar @154: So who were you in your last lifetime…Genrich Yagoda? By this posting you have self-identified your ethnicity.
Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 18 2023 4:03 utc | 178 ”
” Sarcasm is a conversational device characterized by saying the opposite of what one means. Sarcasm comes from the Greek “sarkázein,” meaning to “tear flesh” and indeed, sarcasm is deployed in a mocking, sneering, and often witty tone. This means it can be self-deprecating, with the speaker mocking themselves; or aimed at someone else, in a teasing manner. ”

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Jan 18 2023 4:58 utc | 197

[78]
Funny. It to mention Challenger MBT uses two-part shell with powder charge separate in gurret so needs loader whereas others use one-part shells. British cannon were configured for HESH rounds
Munition manufacture ceased 2006 and stocks are low
14 Challengers have been in Rszeszow since July 2022 transported on Polish commercial low-loaders from Sennelager. Clearly U.K. is not returning them to German storage

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jan 18 2023 4:59 utc | 198

Do you remember in the film Stalker when the Writer realises the fundamental truth of the Room: that it doesn’t grant you what you think you desire, but what your subconscious mind truly desires? The Ukranazi coup regime has so repeatedly ruined golden chances for peace since 2014, and even since February 2022, that its subconscious desire for annihilation seems manifest.
Therefore it seems obvious that this will go on in a Götterdämmerung scenario not unlike the original nazis in 1945.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 18 2023 5:01 utc | 199

@169 Watcher
This is a case of pots calling kettles black. The Ukranian Jewish Khazarian mafia , who as b. says are currently blackmailing Biden for crimes they themselves have facilitated, would love to hide under equal opportunities Liberalism.
The zionist claim to ownership of Palestine is the biggest land grab con in history. Even St Paul recorded his objections to the cancellation of Judaism because they rejected their Messiah pbuh.
This current Zionist land grab in Ukraine is being resisted by Russia, but without naming the criminals as Zionists because many others including Ken Livingstone and Jeremy Corbyn have been ensnared by “”””” antisemitism “”” quick lime for speaking the truth about ZioNazism.
A page that was removed from European
history has been found. Time to stick it back in.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 18 2023 5:18 utc | 200