Ukraine Open Thread 2023-23
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Posted by b on January 28, 2023 at 10:49 UTC | Permalink
next page »An interesting part from MSM:
"Ukraine scores in the bottom third of all countries in terms of its human rights record, according to our data. Its score of 42 out of 100 is the same as that of the Central African Republic – a country rife with violence against civilians and political instability."
Posted by: Colin | Jan 28 2023 11:24 utc | 2
Then we have paid trolls ranting "but the Donbass massacre was not genocide" "Ukraine cannot be a fascist state because their president is literally Jewish". For the latter, I suggest asking if they've heard of Israel - if Trump is a fascist, as many centrist and liberal Democrats believe, then how is Ukraine not a fascist? (I don't mean I think Ukraine is literally fascist but I disagree with such obviously absurd double standards)
Just as people strangely believe that Russia, with its much larger area, much more nuclear weapons and almost launched several times, has absolutely no nuclear option, while Israel, historically in danger of total defeat but only have a project to detonate a nuclear weapon in no man's land and afraid to counter an already de facto nuclear-armed Iran, has a nuclear option that could very easily and inevitably be triggered if you dare to sanction them
Posted by: Colin | Jan 28 2023 11:32 utc | 3
Apparently a 750kV substation in Zaporozhye was burnt in the latest missile barrage.
It would be interesting to see thermal infrared imagery from space of Ukraine in comparison with earlier Winters.
There is plenty of satellite of radiated visible light but I haven't seen any of radiated heat, except for the agricultural wildfire tracker images which don't have good NEΔT resolution.
The mild Winter is still missing many Joules. Surplus energy from de-industrialization must be Ukraine's principle source.
Posted by: too scents | Jan 28 2023 11:50 utc | 4
Imagine naming your kids "Abrams" or "Javelina"
lol
lmao even
Posted by: leaf | Jan 28 2023 12:05 utc | 5
A NATO command post undertook an analysis of the state of Ukranian forces following 11 months of war.
One of the important conclusions reached is that the quality of Ukranian complements continues to fall.The primary reason is due to high losses of personnel suffered from the period of March to September.
Particularly experienced and prepared troops of the infantry, airborne, and Spetsnaz forces were practically destroyed.In March their professional forces (that is, men who have served for at least a year) in infantry brigades made up approximately half of the unit, while if accounting mobilized personnel with any battle experience in Donbass or simply any experience in the armed forces, it rises to about 65%
By august, the professional core dropped to a remaining composition of about 20% of the element, and that of of mobilized with experience to about 35%.Going into December, there remain only 15-20% of infantry tempered in battle, and of those, almost only remnants of mobilized forces which experienced some combat.
Remnants of experienced professional core troops has fallen to 10% of unit composition, of which in turn that number primarily consists of those who had prior service in the Soviet armed forcesIn 11 months, some infantry Brigades have been reformed three times over (rotating out and replenshing personnel after suffering up to 50% losses), and today the professional core remnants are preserved by operating in command and control units behind the immediate line of contact.
Today their front soldiers are now a rotational force, constantly supplemented with rookies, and this brings about a marked decline in morale in vanguard troops
If in Spring hyper-motivated troops made up 70% of a unit, now it is safe to say that such men compose no more than a quarter of a unit.
Even in the official Corps, no more than half.Because of this, the amount of men in mobilized waves who choose to go willingly to called upon points was about 1 in 10, including from called up reservists and Officer Corps.
They both have a shared apathy, unbelieving in a Ukranian victory and experiencing a bloody fear.
The number of men hiding from mobilization is enormous.
The situation in armored cavlary forces is somewhat different. Tank forces have preserved some 40% of their core personnel, artillery up to 65%, but even here high losses have had their effects.
Motivation here has also significantly fallen.A large portion of extant forces in these units are motivated by vengeance for dead friends, and are often named “trade corruptionists”.
As such, primary factors in such remain faith in help and support. Deliveries of foreign technical equipment (heavy armor) and weapons reinforce the hopes that, with support from Western nations, the UF will be able to route the “Russian army”
But in the last two months, due to RF re-taking intiative and UF experiencing poor fortunes on the fronts, a shared consensus has arisen that soon NATO itself will step into the war directly, and that this factor will make or break the war
Other than the sharp fall of professionalism and motivation, NATO specialists observe serious problems in education of the populace
For two months, half mobilized forces with no prior military service have simply been impossible to train due to lack of education, skills, and discipline
As such a large part of these forces are deployed to the front with only the most basic of preparation and suffer extraordinary losses in the face of intense battles.The more qualified ones are are trained by the alliance, up to about 3,000 men per month, but this is clearly insufficient to replace losses.
Therefore right now all commanding elements of Ukraine and NATO are at a loss as to how to form new assault Corps, in which consolidation of new heavy armor, artillery, and training of personnel must take place with existing personnel at hand.
It is specifically these forces that in Spring must become the primary armed forces of the UF in order destroy RF forces in the Herson front.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/31109
Posted by: Down South | Jan 28 2023 12:15 utc | 6
there's no way the Russians fired missiles. they ran out of missiles 4 months ago. must be the iranians.
Posted by: Toxik | Jan 28 2023 12:18 utc | 7
Translated:
Summary by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine (28.01.2023)◽️ In the Kupyansk direction, strikes by army aviation and artillery fire of the "Western" grouping of troops defeated accumulations of manpower and equipment of the 14th and 92nd mechanized brigades of the AFU in the areas of Sinovka in Kharkiv Region and Novoselovskoye in the Luhansk People's Republic.
đź’Ą Up to 25 Ukrainian servicemen, an armored fighting vehicle, two pickup trucks, a Gvozdika self-propelled howitzer and a US-made M-777 artillery system were destroyed.
◽️ In the Krasno-Limansky direction, strikes by operational-tactical and army aviation and artillery fire of the Group of Forces "Center" defeated units of the 103rd Territorial Defense Brigade, the 25th Airborne and the 95th Airborne Assault Brigades of the AFU in the areas of Vishneve of Kharkiv Region, Yampolovka of Donetsk People's Republic, as well as the Serebryansky forest area.
đź’Ą The enemy losses in this direction during the day amounted to more than 50 Ukrainian soldiers, an infantry fighting vehicle, two armored fighting vehicles and one M-777 artillery system produced by the United States.
◽️ In the Donetsk direction, units of the "Southern" group of troops took more favorable lines and positions in the course of successful offensive actions.
đź’Ą During the day, more than 30 Ukrainian servicemen, an infantry fighting vehicle, two vehicles, a Grad MLRS unit, a Pion self-propelled artillery unit, a Hyacinth-B howitzer, two MTA-B howitzers, a US-made M-777 artillery system, and a US-made AN/TPQ-37 counter-battery radar station were destroyed in this direction.
◽️ In the South Donetsk and Zaporizhzhya directions, units of the Vostok Group of Forces continued successful offensive actions and inflicted fire on the enemy in the areas of Ugledar, Novoselka, Novomayorske of the Donetsk People's Republic and Lugovskoye of the Zaporizhzhya region.
đź’Ą Two ammunition depots and armored vehicles of the AFU were destroyed in the areas of Vodyanoye, Donetsk People's Republic, and Nikolskoye, Zaporizhzhia region.
đź’Ą Total enemy losses in these areas during the day amounted to up to 70 Ukrainian soldiers, two infantry fighting vehicles, three armored fighting vehicles, two pickup trucks, three D-20 and D-30 howitzers, as well as a Gvozdika self-propelled howitzer.
◽️ Operational-tactical aviation, missile troops and artillery of groups of troops (forces) of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation hit 86 units at firing positions, manpower and military equipment in 124 areas.
◽️ Russian Air Force fighter aircraft near Krasnoarmeysk settlement of Donetsk People's Republic shot down a MiG-29 aircraft of Ukrainian air force in the air.
đź’Ą Also during the day, Russian air defenses shot down nine Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles in the areas of Vladimirovka, Kreminna of Luhansk People's Republic, Tabaevka of Kharkiv region, Nikolskoye of Donetsk People's Republic and Zherebyanka of Zaporizhzhia region.
đź’Ą In addition, eight HIMARS and Olha MBRLS rockets were intercepted in the areas of Donetsk city and Valerianivka village of Donetsk People's Republic.
đź“Š In total, since the beginning of the special military operation destroyed ((+?) over preceding 24hrs):
381(+1) aircraft,
204 helicopters,
2,976(+9) unmanned aerial vehicles,
402 surface-to-air missile systems,
7,656(+12) tanks and other armored combat vehicles,
992(+1) multiple rocket launcher combat vehicles,
3,944(+12) field artillery and mortar guns, and
8,198(+7) special military vehicle vehicles.
Comment:
One MBLRS destroyed. Twelve Howitzers & Self-Propelled Howitzers(SPHs) destroyed. Comparatively high single days rate of Artillery losses.
Average AFVs & below average Vehicles destroyed. Two ammunition depots were destroyed.
Another US counter-battery radar station was destroyed. Slow day. A daily event.
Continuing destruction of ammo, fuel or arty dumps/depots rear of FEBA. Sustained high priority tasking of destruction of AFU Indirect Fire Support assets.
Sustained increase in Op tempo. Increase in targeted Locs. Sustained localized assaults & limited offensive action on multiple frontages along the FEBA.
A UK tabloid reports that Russia is now buying a batch of WW-II era T-34s from Laos. This has got to be some of the most ridiculous propaganda nonsense I have read on this war. And there has been a lot.
What is the purpose of this silliness? Is there actually anybody that believe any of it?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1727019/Vladimir-Putin-Ukraine-war-Russia-tanks-T-34-Laos
Posted by: Rune | Jan 28 2023 12:30 utc | 9
@Rune | Jan 28 2023 12:30 utc
This is indeed true, but history.
Few years ago Russia bought some T-34 in working condition from Laos to use them in annual victory parades.
A number of Soviet cities used to have some WW-II tanks somewhere in public places. Including Ukrainian ones. It may be the case, that those removed by Ukrainians need replacements in the new Russian territories. So may be they are buying some from Laos for this purpose.
Posted by: BG13 | Jan 28 2023 12:37 utc | 10
Intelslava reports a rumor that Ukr told the Pentagon they lost 232K troops killed and that Stratfor estimates it at 305K killed.
Rumors that Ukr is grabbing thousands of national police for the meat grinder. And that Al Jazera visited Bakhmut and noticed that a number of brigades are not cannon fodder - special forces, paratroopers, etc.
Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 28 2023 12:42 utc | 11
https://www.state.gov/significant-new-u-s-military-assistance-to-ukraine/
Antony J. Blinken, Secretary of State
January 19, 2023
"The United States is announcing a significant new security assistance package to help Ukraine continue to defend itself against Russia’s brutal war. Pursuant to a delegation of authority from the President, I am authorizing our 30 th drawdown of U.S. arms and equipment for Ukraine since August 2021. This assistance package will provide Ukraine with hundreds of additional armored vehicles, including Stryker armored personnel carriers, Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles, and High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled vehicles. The package also includes critical additional air defense support for Ukraine, including more Avenger air defense systems, and surface to air missiles, as well as additional munitions for NASAMS that the United States has previously provided. The package also contains night vision devices, small arms ammunition, and other items to support Ukraine as it bravely defends its people, its sovereignty, and its territorial integrity.
This package, which totals $2.5 billion, will bring total U.S. military assistance for Ukraine to an unprecedented approximately $27.5 billion since the beginning of the Administration.
The United States also continues to rally the world to support Ukraine. We have seen incredible solidarity from our allies and partners, including at today’s Ukraine Defense Contact Group, and we applaud the more than 50 countries who have come together to make significant contributions to support Ukraine.
I am grateful to Congress for continuing to provide this increased drawdown authority, most recently under the Additional Ukraine Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2023 that was signed into law by the President in December 2022.
Russia alone could end this war today. Until it does so, we will stand United with Ukraine for as long as it takes."
Posted by: Nicolae | Jan 28 2023 12:48 utc | 12
Rumors that Ukr is grabbing thousands of national police for the meat grinder.
Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 28 2023 12:42 utc | 11
And the ceremonial personal guards of Zely. They appear in obituaries now.
Other reports say that in Transcarpathia they have to pay $10k to escape mobilization. And Zely apparently plans to ban any recording of men being mobilized by force.
So it's clear that they're preparing the next kamikaze move. Considering the low number of Russian soldiers, if nazis kamikaze in a coordinated way, even with only few thousands, they will succeed at first.
Posted by: rk | Jan 28 2023 13:10 utc | 13
US and EU Like Thelma and Louise. Driving Off The Cliff With The Pedal To The Metal.
Great comments section
https://sonar21.com/the-u-s-and-europe-like-thelma-and-louise-are-driving-off-a-cliff/
Posted by: jgalt | Jan 28 2023 13:20 utc | 14
Posted by: too scents | Jan 28 2023 11:50 utc | 4
are you sure 750kV is a "substation" ? I should have thought it was main transmission grid and much harder to replace
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jan 28 2023 13:36 utc | 15
It's time now for for the Ukranians or other interested parties to not only depose Zelensky but to arrest him for the War Criminal that he is. His billions in financial assets should also be seized. Whilst his wife spends over Euros 40,000 in one hour on a Christmas shopping trip in Paris, he is sending hundreds of thousands of civilians to certain death in the meat grinder. I am beginning to wonder whether he has now become a monster greater than Hitler was. The ethnic cleansing of ethnic Hungarians in Transcarpathia by sending them to the front, the arrest and execution of ethnic Russians in the Donbass and the fact that he is now a ruthless brutal Nazi Dictator having closed down all opposition is plain to see. My Goodness, in my lifetime I thought I would never see the day where the Collective West would support a Nazi Dictator, a Nazi Regime and the associated atrocities and ethnic cleansing associated with Hitler. My Grandparents ought in one if not two World Wars to ensure Fascism would never ever again rear its ugly head and here we are a collective West that is so consumed with hatred it has lost sight of all reason and reality and is now supporting Fascism to the hilt.
On another note, I was listening to an interview with Lt Col Douglas McGregor yesterday in which he said Arestovich had been 'blocked' and had not been heard of since. Now, whatever we Barflies feel about Arestovich, he did tell some painful truths but has not been heard of since Given the propensity of the Nazi Regime and Zelensky's issues of never ending Decrees, I wonder whether Arestovich is at least alive, safe and well not in the grips of the SBU.
Let's see if he is seen on Telegram, TV or anything else again Just sayin'
In the meantime Putin and the Russian combined Armed Forces (including Wagner) are continuing with their God given work to protect the vulnerable and the weak in these areas and hopefully, put a comprehensive end to the extreme Nazi ideals of the WEF's One World Order.
Posted by: Jo Dominich | Jan 28 2023 13:47 utc | 16
There is no reason to think that anything said by either (any) participant is correct/true.
So if the west says it will send 100 tanks by end of spring it should be taken to mean that the will send 1-1000 tanks sometime between next week and year from now - in all probability.
Really, 100 is not a serious amount - suspect that is just foot-in-the-door action.
It does seem Russia is de-militarizing Europe. And NATO, rather than protecting Europe, is marching them into the fray.
Posted by: jared1089 | Jan 28 2023 13:53 utc | 17
are you sure 750kV is a "substation" ?
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jan 28 2023 13:36 utc | 15
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I pulled the substation nomenclature from here:
Dniprovska Substation is a 750/330/15.75kV substation located in Dniprovska, Zaporizhia, Ukraine. The construction works on Dniprovska Substation began in 2019. The project was commissioned in 2020.
https://www.power-technology.com/marketdata/dniprovska-substation-ukraine/
Irreplaceable.
Posted by: too scents | Jan 28 2023 13:55 utc | 18
Posted by: Rune | Jan 28 2023 12:30 utc | 9
Posted by: BG13 | Jan 28 2023 12:37 utc | 10
I wondered a bit about TTG's response on Turcopolier, a little indirect it is, but it might help to explain matters. Uk tabloids need heat fodder, never mind if real or not?
TTG says:
January 27, 2023 at 8:52 pm
Peter Hug,
I’ve seen recent photos of 30 T-34-85s arriving in Russia from Laos. However, it’s not what it appears to be. The Russians aren’t that desperate. This deal was arranged in 2019 in exchange for T-72s. The working T-34s were to be used for museum displays and movie props. They just happened to arrive now.
https://turcopolier.com/mick-ryan-on-ukrainian-tanks-ttg/#comment-218525
Posted by: LeaNder | Jan 28 2023 13:56 utc | 19
A question for the Canadian barflies. Does your country have an equivalent to the CIA or does MI6 handle such "things" for your government as a "dominion" state (or isn't Canada a dominion country anymore)...?
Does the RCMP do the same thing as the FBI and if so, do they use "confidential informants" who get paid??
Posted by: DakotaRog | Jan 28 2023 14:06 utc | 20
A question for the Canadian barflies. Does your country have an equivalent to the CIA or does MI6 handle such "things" for your government as a "dominion" state (or isn't Canada a dominion country anymore)...?Does the RCMP do the same thing as the FBI and if so, do they use "confidential informants" who get paid??
Posted by: DakotaRog | Jan 28 2023 14:06 utc | 20
In Canada it is Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) and they work with other 5-eyes.
https://www.canada.ca/en/security-intelligence-service.html
Reportedly, it is illegal for them to spy on the domestic populations. So they subcontract the spying to each other.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 28 2023 14:23 utc | 21
From a Blog I visit.
The reality on the ground for Ukrainian troops is grim. Last year I posted a number of videos of Ukrainian soldiers who posted their pleas on social media begging the political and military leadership to provide support. Since July there have been very few such videos. A new one came out this week from a decimated company of the 144th Territorial Defense Battalion. This appears to be a legitimate plea for help and provides a bleak picture of what the Ukrainian units in the Donbas are facing:
“At the time of the large-scale offensive and armed aggression of Russia, I and hundreds of men and women joined the ranks of the 144th Territorial Defense Battalion. We were sympathetic to the lack of VVK, the lack of adequate weapons and uniforms. From February to December, about 5 shootings with AKs and training in tactics took place in my unit. Although, according to papers, we almost every day had fire training for the development of different types of weapons.
In January, we were sent to the combat zone in the Soledar operational-tactical formation. The first combat clash took place with elements of an assault, for which we were not prepared. We were without communication with the command of the mortar battery, we suffered losses in the dead and wounded. We encountered tank fire, which broke up our group.
After 2 days, without proper medical assistance, the remnants of my platoon and other platoons were again sent to the line of contact with combat contact and direct artillery shelling, which did not allow us to raise our heads. We were sent there wounded, shell-shocked, without providing the things that we had lost. We again had the wounded, and the condition of the previously wounded worsened. And besides, our base was destroyed by artillery fire.
Some of us were left without winter things, without everything that we had on at the time of the operation, that is, bulletproof vest, unloading, machine gun. Some of us have in our hands hospital certificates about the need to be released from duty for 5 days.
None of us refused and does not refuse to perform combat missions, most of us are simply not combat-ready due to injuries, lack of support, communication and coordination.”
https://t.me/azmilitary11/35112
Posted by: jgalt | Jan 28 2023 14:26 utc | 22
Posted by: DakotaRog | Jan 28 2023 14:06 utc | 20
Canada does have an intelligence agency that "conducts operations, covert and overt, within Canada and abroad" (per Wikipedia), the CSIS/SCRS.
As to whether this is just a front for the CIA like the RCMP is for the FBI, I cannot say.
Being an offensive security specialist, I was once in an engagement where we were tasked by a police department to try and recover their list of informants. We blew our social engineering attempts, and the incident response process started within the police department. It escalated very quickly, and within a day both the RCMP and the FBI were contacting them to check what was happening, at which point we quickly disclosed our failed attempts and concluded the exercise.
I am still very surprised that the US FBI had anything to say about anything happening in Canada, but then again, is Canada really a country?
Posted by: Lemming | Jan 28 2023 14:34 utc | 23
@DakotaRog 20
Yes Canada does, it's called CSIS. From government website:
CSIS is at the forefront of Canada's national security system. Our role is to investigate activities suspected of constituting threats to the security of Canada and to report on these to the Government of Canada. We may also take measures to reduce threats to the security of Canada in accordance with well-defined legal requirements and Ministerial Direction
Posted by: Miclo2 | Jan 28 2023 14:36 utc | 24
Rune@9...might be true, makes sense to buy them before Uncle Smule grabs them for Ukie.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 28 2023 14:39 utc | 25
Posted by: too scents | Jan 28 2023 13:55 utc | 18
Interesting. I simply read that there is a 750kV line from Poland into Ukraine and thought that was what voltage they wheeled across the grid before sending to 330kV substations.
750-kV-Leitung Rzeszów–Chmelnyzkyj which runs to a Ukrainian nuclear power station and was initiated 1985.
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jan 28 2023 14:44 utc | 26
Victoria Nuland on Prosecution Futures in Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1619120741198491648
Ironic. What will be her defense before the post conflict tribunal?
Posted by: too scents | Jan 28 2023 14:44 utc | 27
14 civilians killed and 24 injured in Lugansk hospital himars attack.
Another himars attack in Donetsk only destroyed some buildings but petal mines also exploded a child.
Posted by: rk | Jan 28 2023 14:47 utc | 28
When brigades are mentioned here as Russian Ukrainian formation sizes.
Is 3500 the approximate full strength size?
About 6 battalions.
Posted by: jpc | Jan 28 2023 15:04 utc | 29
CSIS and RCMP are political tools of the Canadian state. They entrap people in crimes invented by the state, like the Toronto 18. They target anti-war and indigenous activists. RCMP was born out of crushing indigenous resistance to the creation of Canada. Most CSIS agents are exceptionally dumb too; opportunists with a three year 'political science' degree who are only hired because they have already internalized the doctrinal imperative of Canada's elite: total subservience to US power. CSIS was complicit in torture in Afghanistan, and in the Omar Khadr case. The media cites CSIS all the time as if it's some authoritative source on anything.
Posted by: Ringo | Jan 28 2023 15:08 utc | 30
@LeaNder | Jan 28 2023 13:56 utc
30 T-34 arrived in 2019 in Russia,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYwRJDcVUQc
2018 in action in Laos by Zvezda TV
https://yandex.ru/video/preview/11710894948312144841
Posted by: BG13 | Jan 28 2023 15:20 utc | 31
RĂ©gis Le Sommier shared some bits of his experiences with Russian troops. Here's another interview of him.
Posted by: Typic | Jan 28 2023 15:30 utc | 32
Lemming@23...it's a gas can masquerading as a third world country....as over 90% of it's indigenous housing camps are under a Boil Water Adviseries.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 28 2023 15:40 utc | 33
Looks like no NATO membership for Sweden and Finland. They should thank Erdogan.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/30424
❗️ Negotiations between Turkey, Sweden and Finland on a NATO bid have been postponed indefinitely at Ankara's request, a source stated to RIA Novosti
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 28 2023 15:44 utc | 34
TL&DR Details of latest/cumulative 'Lend-Lease' AFVs & credibility(?) of described purpose/intended use by AFU.
Further to the previously posted then total aggregated/collated Vehicles, Artillery & Air Defense Systems announced (including DOD additional) to be 'Lend-Leased' to Ukraine over coming weeks & months, as at Jan20'23 immediately post USAF Ramstien conference ...
Here is the currently 'promised' MBTs since the Germans folded & US *cough* commitment to supplying two Companies of Abrams MBTs, coming in weeks, months, a year or unto The Twelfth of Never ?:
🇨🇿 30 T-72M MBTs = 2 Tank Coy
🇵🇱 60 PT-91 MBTs (Polish manufacture T-72) = 1 Tank BN(+)
🇵🇱 'Possibly'(1) ~120 old ex-soviet T-72 = 1 Tank BDE(-)
🇺🇸 Supposedly 31 M1A2 Export/New Production MBTs
(Sans DU-Ceramic composite armor, probable downgraded sights/sensors/etc) = 2 Tank Coy
🇲🇦 30 T-72 MBTs = 2 Tank Coy
🇩🇪 14 Leopard II MBTs = 1 Tank Coy
🇨🇦 4 Leopard II MBTs = 1 Tank Platoon(PL)
🇪🇸 <20 Leopard II MBTs = 1 Tank Coy(+)
🇫🇮 14 Leopard II MBTs = 1 Tank Coy
🇳🇴 <8 Leopard II MBTs = 2 Tank Platoons(-)
🇵🇹 4 Leopard II MBTs = 1 Tank Platoon(PL)
🇳🇱 18 Leopard II MBTs = 1 Tank Coy(+)
🇸🇪 ? Leopards II MBT &/or Stridsvagn 122 MBT = Unknown/unconfirmed
🇫🇷 ? Leclerc MBT = Unknown/unconfirmed
🇩🇰 ? Leopards II MBT = Unknown/unconfirmed
Others ???
Note: (1) Already committed to Ukraine ? Or allocated to Polish mixed Mech BDE(+) for deployment to Western Ukraine(Polish claimed territory) ? Poland somewhat ambiguous re allocation/intended usage.
Becoming exceedingly difficult to accurately track repeatedly reported/overlapping 'promised' AFVs by type & especially quantities ...
Excluding (1) notionally a total of ~221 MBTs = 1 mixed Tank Brigade & 1 mixed Tank BN(+)
Combined with totals pledged as above link (as at Jan20'23 )immediately post Ramstein conference:
= 1 mixed Tank Brigade & 2 mixed Tank Battalions (MBTs) & 1 mixed Mechanized Brigade(+) (Tracked IFVs)
Combat capable MBTs & IFVs only. Excludes highly vulnerable light armored car & obsolete tracked APCs (Battle taxis), HMMMVs, etc.
Does NOT comprise, unsupported by Air/AD assets & massed indirect Fire Support, a likely competent capable experienced combined arms units/formations, a supposed powerful Armored 'Corps' mythically capable of punching it's way through Kherson Oblast to sieze Crimea. BS.
Described as a breakthrough third echelon ... utilizing an additionally sourced sacrificial conscript infantry first assault echelon, followed by an additional AFU remnant MBTs/IFVs sacrificial second echelon, thence directly assaulting RF now heavily fortified, entrenched-in- depth, fully supported defensive positions ?
Further, sufficient fuel (POL) sustainment to support ability to march, assemble & form-up en masse, assault & subsequent breakthrough/exploitation (especially in contact) undetected given RF ISR throughout Ukraine Theater ?
Harassing, interdiction, destruction Fires by myriad ranged RF assets including unleashed CAS upon march ? Thence indirect organic/attached/in support Fire Support assets at & rear of FEBA ? Not merely targeting AFVs but more importantly sizable & extremely vulnerable mandatory logistical/service/support train ? Oops, no POL/ammo ...
If notionally committed as equivalent of three(3) independent mixed Tank/Mech Brigades(-), or more likely two(2) x mixed Tank/Mech Brigades(+), what (other AFU asset/s) is to prevent an uncommitted RF Tank Brigade or Division counter-attacking (with significant stand-off CAS), into it's flank/rear or logistical train ? Note: Equivalent of a Division(-), yet AFU has no capability or experience above Brigade level formations nor command/interoperability of such.
Secure supply & support post assault ? How will this independent mixed bag consolidate, hold & retain any notional ground taken, against RF counter-attack response, given status of remainder of AFU ?
RF has between minimum 4 to 24 times this size force in available uncommitted formed heavy formations in Theater, even after excluding ~85% RF regulars ... hmmm ...
Overall wider comments re these notional last ditch AFV menageries as per previous linked post.
The question is what happens after this war. Assuming Ukraine loses and is partitioned. The only way I see that not happening is if Russia keeps avoiding it.
In that case, either there is a revival of relationship between EU and Russia, or there is not.
1. If there is no attempt to return to business as usual between EU and Russia, there is no way to avoid a NATO Russia war. There is just too much investment by NATO and EU against Russia, and the desire to finish Napoleon's and Hitler's dream is too strong. Nuclear war is inevitable in this case.
2. If relations improve, then EU will have to break away from US . There is no way neocons can remain in the same room as Russia. This is very remote IMO. Except if Germany declares its sovereignty and gives a middle finger to the neocons. There would be mass assassinations in German political class in this case.
A UK tabloid reports that Russia is now buying a batch of WW-II era T-34s from Laos.
The Brits are evil. They murdered hundreds of millions in India by causing famines and tens of millions of Native Americans.
There is a gap between their self image and reality. That they are no longer world rulers hasn't sunk in yet completely.
They were able to rule the world because they stole all the tax revenue from India and used it's manpower to man the imperial army.
One hopes karma is coming back for these evil anglo people.
Posted by: cafe con leche | Jan 28 2023 15:53 utc | 36
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 28 2023 15:44 utc | 34
Rules are like hearts. Sometimes you break them. ESpecially when you are the one who makes them.
Posted by: Vikichka | Jan 28 2023 15:53 utc | 37
Thanks for all the answers and comments on the Canadian CSIS and RCMP. The reason why I was asking is that I’m a member of an “outdoors” forum centered in North America, probably has over 10,000 or more registered people, although maybe 500 actively post a lot. Most of these people are conservative men but there is certainly a sub group of us who aren’t buying all the lies the various western governments are telling anymore. I’ve also tried to stress what 5th generation warfare includes such as information manipulation and control.
I’ve brought up the Ukrainian War many times and there are a few others on the forum who attack me for not being patriotic and a “Putin lover”. But the most vocal is a guy out of the Ontario “bush” who constantly attacks me by calling me a “traitor”, a “commie”, and a few weeks ago that “people like me should probably be hung from light poles”. I find his attacks mostly humorous. This guy claims to be a retired railroad worker and is very good at the “outdoor” endeavors that are the main part of this forum. He’s not dumb, we got into a petrodollar discussion at one point, but I can’t figure out if he’s just one of these people who has to be right and have the last word AND massively a Canadian empire nationalist OR is also a paid troll by Can security services to influence this forum. He posts a lot!! I think it could a perfect set up, a guy who does the outdoor thing but also a security service asset getting paid to influence a particular mostly conservative forum. Maybe I’m crazy and this guy is just a boorish wingnut but who knows nowadays…
Posted by: DakotaRog | Jan 28 2023 15:56 utc | 38
While estimates of Ukr troops killed have horrifically ascended, I don't see estimates of those permanently disabled. This could be even higher.
Of course, Ukr leadership will try to send them back into the meat grinder and kill them off. They tried to draft a Ukr. man who had no hands. He only got off after doctors examined him. I don't understand the lack of armed resistance especially in isolated villages such as ethnic Hungarian towns. Fight back or die for nothing.
Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 28 2023 15:57 utc | 39
Dakota Rog @20
There is also the Communications Security Establishment (what a name, and this is five-eyes territory.) Definition - “CSE is Canada's national cryptologic agency, providing the Government of Canada with information technology security and foreign signals intelligence.”
Something for your second question:
“The withdrawal of $475,000 in cash by the man who killed 22 Nova Scotians in April matches the method the RCMP uses to send money to confidential informants and agents, sources say.”
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jan 28 2023 16:00 utc | 40
Zakharva's visceral excoriation of Scholz.
Perhaps the only thing more concerning and disgusting than Germany sending its tanks to fight against Russia, is the almost total lack of discussion within its media and political class, their utter disregard for how Russia will perceive it, and most of all, the total fecklessness and subordination of the German people, judging by the public's lack of reaction.
I would encourage MoA readers to consider Maria Zakharova's statements in this video, addressed to Scholz specifically:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv7yEI5YRZc
If you are German, i would say it is almost compulsory viewing.
Dressed in black, Zakharova explicitly states that matters are now to be determined by 'military experts'. Whether this relates to Germany or just the war on the ground in Ukraine, perhaps i am looking too much into it, but she appears resigned to an irreversible course by both her choice of words and general demeanour.
In her evisceration of this gutless weasel, she makes a point of making it personal. I cannot think of another example where an official high ranking spokesperson, let alone a Russian one, deliberately brings up their own family history to such a personal degree, while the utter humiliation of this pathetic political nobody may well go down as a momentous passage in diplomatic history in of itself.
Posted by: Et Tu | Jan 28 2023 16:05 utc | 41
@Vikichka | Jan 28 2023 15:53 utc | 36
⚡️⚡️⚡️Swedish Foreign Minister Tobias Billström said that against the backdrop of the recent protests, the process of the country's accession to NATO has been suspended.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/31166
They still blew their neutrality. Now they stand naked.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 28 2023 16:05 utc | 42
Zelensky trying to acquire military aircraft to strike important targets in Crimea, if successful this could seriously escalate hostilities which could spill over into other European nations. Poland has already suffered from two supposedly wayward strikes from Ukrainian forces.
https://ria.ru/20230128/peregovory-1848090128.html
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 28 2023 16:14 utc | 43
" Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosetto’s remarks that the Third World War would erupt if Russian tanks reached Kiev and "the borders of Europe", and that the weapons sent to Ukraine were meant to stop the escalation. Medvedev equated his remarks to the calls from the United Kingdom to provide Kiev with all the weapons NATO"
On the above its the West/Europe that's fuelling this war, a war created entirely by the West/Europe and encroachment towards Russia.
https://tass.com/politics/1568437
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 28 2023 16:18 utc | 44
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 28 2023 16:05 utc | 41
I don't believe for a second that this will stop them. Someone said "the NATO ascention is too important to have a referendum".... Or have protests stop it for that matter. This is IMHO a side show for political reasons - build pressure on local level in Sweden and build pressure internationally on TĂĽrkiye, while in the meantime NATO ascention will happen - in the very least de facto now, if not de jure right away.
How do Norwegians inofficially feel about it considering their centuries old spat with Sweden?
Posted by: Vikichka | Jan 28 2023 16:19 utc | 45
Russia is braced for a huge cyber attack from Kiev after learning this.
"the other day it became public that Kiev had joined the NATO cyber defense center in Tallinn."
https://tass.com/politics/1568359
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 28 2023 16:22 utc | 46
"Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosetto’s remarks that the Third World War would erupt if Russian tanks reached.. "the borders of Europe"
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 28 2023 16:18 utc | 43
Thats genuinely dump thing to say for a minister.
1.the geographical borders of Europe end at Ural.
2.russian tanks will reach the borders of the EU without moving if they have it their way and Ukraine joins the EU.
Posted by: Vikichka | Jan 28 2023 16:26 utc | 47
@35 The UK has had 14 Challenger tanks in Poland since last July. It's part of some complicated swap deal. They probably won't be going into Ukraine just yet.
Zelensky seems to think this tank force is going to make a dash to Crimea. He may find the Polish contingent only gets as far as Lviv.
Posted by: dh | Jan 28 2023 16:26 utc | 48
Norwegian @ 41
They still blew their neutrality. Now they stand naked.
Meh, naked Swedes, what's new? What they did is think things over, looked carefully at the current situation and said (in Swedish, of course) "wait just a cotton pickin' minute, we signed onto total collapse in a couple months not this almost WW3 shit. We are outta here!" And, found a convoluted and fairly cowardly way to bail, but hats off to them anyway.
Wonder what they traded for with Erdogan to get off the USA ship heading off the edge of the world? Maybe nothing, Erdogan offered from the kindness of his heart. I would have.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 28 2023 16:28 utc | 49
Brussels is threating Serbia, its an EU candidate, that it must impose sanctions against Russia for its actions in Ukraine.
However.
"During a visit to Turkey, Serbia's First Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Affairs Minister Ivica Dacic stated that imposing sanctions against Russia would be a wrong move that would harm the country."
https://tass.com/politics/1568351
Could anyone ever look at Europe, well most European countries again, and think of them as reasonable after the almost pogroms against Russians, their children and businesses from EU residents who've blindly bought into the Nato lies, not to mention US social media platforms such as Facebook and Instagram suspending their hate crime policies to allow users to speak about and call for the deaths of Russians.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 28 2023 16:29 utc | 50
: Vikichka (46).
I suppose we and of course the Kremlin will take it as a form of sabre rattling and nothing more from this inane Italian minister, however imagine the publicity this comment would receive if it was a high ranking Russian military or politician person who said it. The fake Western corporate media would be all over it and our tv screens would be inundated with solemn looking news reporters foretelling of WWIII, and the blame would be placed squarely on the shoulders of Russia.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 28 2023 16:35 utc | 51
"Another Ukrainian heinous war crime. 14 civilians killed in a hospital by US-supplied missiles. And as we know from Ukrainian officials the targets of HIMARS are agreed by Washington. So it makes the US directly complicit. US taxpayers should be aware of how their money is useds" - Permanent Representative of Russia to UN Polyanskiy
twitter.com/Dpol_un/status/1619351009473744898
Posted by: rk | Jan 28 2023 16:37 utc | 52
Someone posted here a few days ago that the Russians were claiming zero or very low Ukrainian tank losses. That seems to be continuing. Looks to me like whatever armour the UAF have left they are refitting and putting into reserve. They may well have still c 400 operational MBT and more repairable. But a guess really. Another 200 wunderwaffe Leopards etc won't make that much difference but some.
Nevertheless the RF needs to up the tempo of operations (Big Arrow Offensives) if they are to prevent the UAF once again creating a useful operational reserve. I have posted before my opinion that if the RF do not launch a significant offensive (ie gain strategic ground in depth and defeat large forces) in the winter it is because they cannot, not out of choice. There is about a month of winter proper left now, so we wait and see.
But it is plausible the unless the UAF armoured reserve is brought to battle and destroyed, by late spring it might have 800+ MBTs with competent and experienced crews, supported by IFVs etc and lots of SPGs, and probably veteran infantry etc. The UAF line infantry units are getting shredded just now, but there seems to be lots of them and perhaps the view is that they are expendable. The Elite reserve is a different matter.
The RF it seems to me has the strategic initiative just now but is not taking advantage of it. Perhaps their High Command prefers a long, slow, drawn out war of attrition. That does not however seem a good way to win a war against NATO as it gives space and time for it to mobilise economically; and let's face it, Russia needs to be able to point to some undeniable victories in the near future.
Posted by: marcjf | Jan 28 2023 16:41 utc | 53
@Et Tu | Jan 28 2023 16:05 utc | 40
Many thanks for the link to Maria Zakharova's video. This is extremely powerful.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 28 2023 16:42 utc | 54
"The European Commission says Ukraine has the unconditional support of the European Union in the war with Russia.
Speaking at an event in Germany on Saturday, Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said Kiev needed to defend European values. “We stand by Ukraine's side without any ifs and buts.”
She said Ukraine “is fighting for our shared values, it is fighting for the respect of international law and for the principles of democracy and that is why Ukraine has to win this war.”
Von der Leyen made the remarks ahead of an EU-Ukraine summit in Kiev next week."
Von der Leyden, herself a dubious character speaks of "European values" what exactly are European values? I have seen none since the Russian SMO began, I saw no "European values" when in 2014 the US carried out a coup in Ukraine, nor did I see any when the Ukrainian Neo-Nazi brigades began shelling civilians in the Donbas, its only when Russia stepped in to stop the mass murder of Russian speaking Ukrainians that EU bigwigs started spouting about European values. Even then their so called values did not extend to Yemen or Afghanistan two countries that need them most of all.
This conflict in Ukraine has shown me and others a very ugly side of Europe, a corrupt and nasty side that has greatly lowered my respect for the continents leaders (well most anyway) and severely damaged my faith in its bodies such as the IAEA, the OPCW, the OSCE etc.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 28 2023 16:47 utc | 55
DakotaRog@37....always be wary of those guys type guys, although he does sound boorish.
All comms in all forms are open to surveillance now. So your group will already be compromised. Take care.
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 28 2023 16:49 utc | 56
@Vikichka | Jan 28 2023 16:19 utc | 44
How do Norwegians inofficially feel about it considering their centuries old spat with Sweden?I can only speak for myself. I think Sweden and Finland have demonstrated extreme stupidity and shown they were not sincere in their neutrality. I am skeptical by nature and knew it wasn't for real, but I never thought they would fall this deep.
I say this not to excuse my own country. What the Norwegian government is doing (sending Leopards to Ukraine) is comparable to what the Quisling government did during German WWII occupation, sending soldiers to fight with the Germans against the Soviets. Quisling was arrested, convicted and shot after the war.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 28 2023 16:53 utc | 58
"On Friday, European External Action Service Secretary-General Stefano Sannino accused Russia of taking the war into a “different stage" in response to a decision by NATO to send advanced armaments to Ukraine. Sannino was referring to a decision made by Germany and the United States this week to send advanced battle tanks to Ukraine.
Speaking at a news conference in Tokyo, Sannino said “this latest development in terms of armed supply is just an evolution of the situation and of the way Russia started moving the war into a different stage.” He said Russian President Vladimir Putin “has moved from a concept of [a] special [military] operation to a concept now of a war against NATO and the West.”
“Now we are speaking about a war with NATO and the West. Different story,” Sannino said."
Reading the above, it is patently obvious to me that the EU is trying to shift the blame of any possible escalation in hostilities in Ukraine onto Russia, of course Nato/EU are beginning to supply more sophisticated weapons to Ukraine which is bound to up the hostilities so in effect its Nato and the EU that's to blame if hostilities in Ukraine intensify with the possibility of the spilling out of Ukraine.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 28 2023 16:56 utc | 59
At least one European leader has decided that he will not allow the EU to foist fuel hardships on his citizens and businesses to satisfy Biden and Zelensky.
"Hungary says it will veto any European Union sanctions against Russia that affect nuclear energy after Ukraine called on the 27-nation bloc to include Russian state-run nuclear power giant Rosatom in the list of sanctions.
In an interview with state radio on Friday, Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orban reiterated that nuclear energy “must obviously be vetoed".
“We will not allow the plan to include nuclear energy into the sanctions be implemented," he stressed. “This is out of the question.”
Ukraine has called on the EU to include Rosatom in sanctions but Hungary, which has a Russian-built nuclear plant it plans to expand with the Russian energy company, has firmly opposed the move.
EU-member Hungary has repeatedly decried the bloc's sanctions against Russia and has said that the measures failed to weaken Russia and on the contrary resulted in an economic crisis in Europe."
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/01/27/697073/EU-Ukraine-Russia-veto-Viktor-Orban
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jan 28 2023 17:02 utc | 60
There are things still unexplained from that NS incident. A Firehall over fifty miles from the rampage scene was shot up by the Mounties. The fire captain submitted a report....his new pumper truck had been disabled, he wanted compensation. There were eye witnesses. Also, the NS RCMP were compromised from the inside by local bikers, there was a counter sting being conducted by outside police forces against them at the same time....the gunman had gang ties, a biker did up the faux cop car for him... were covers exposed, lives at risk, we are talking gangs.....and cops, lots of dead this, burned that, over several days....reeks of a botched inside job and cover up.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 28 2023 17:04 utc | 61
Due to mass mobilization in the city of Rivne, there is a shortage of municipal workers and drivers of public transport.Local officials say there is an acute shortage of electricians, tractor drivers, mechanics, engineers, technicians, and janitors. Also, the Infrastructure Department continues its unsuccessful search for public transportation drivers. According to media estimates, the city's fleet lost 30 percent of its drivers in 11 months.
Amid complaints from residents, officials are raising these issues in the media to shift the blame to military recruiters who have created problems for the city.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/31164
Posted by: Down South | Jan 28 2023 17:05 utc | 62
@ sean the leprechaun #55
I have no doubt about that. I'm sure there are "kin" of my employer who have tracked down my user name on this forum as well as the "outdoor" forum I've mentioned and through my IP address found out my identity. If the U.S. government actually goes into open warfare with the RF, it will interesting if I'm "visited" at my work about my "outside of work activities"...
Posted by: DakotaRog | Jan 28 2023 17:09 utc | 63
Whether correct or wild speculation this is intriguing. RF trying to create Cuban Missile Crisis tensions to throw the USA off balance and refocus world attention? It didn't occur to me or anyone here how notable that the Gorshkov changed its claimed route twice to head to the place of the Cuban Missile Crisis. The USA will not take the bait and will ignore it of course.
People in the USA was there any info in the media there of an RF nuclear missile frigate off the USA's south eastern coast? I bet not, I bet the media was told to nix this story.
It's a Caribbean Crisis 2.0 ZIRCON Hypersonic Missiles were Put on Alert off the Coast of the US
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 28 2023 17:11 utc | 64
NEXTA@nexta_tvNATO is ready for a direct confrontation with Russia, but the alliance must rearm, the head of the NATO Military Committee, Admiral Rob Bauer, said in an interview with the Portuguese RTP. In his opinion, Russia's strategic aims are beyond the borders of Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1619366783932338177
Video embedded in link
Posted by: Down South | Jan 28 2023 17:14 utc | 65
Posted by: marcjf | Jan 28 2023 16:41 utc | 52
The RF it seems to me has the strategic initiative just now but is not taking advantage of it. Perhaps their High Command prefers a long, slow, drawn out war of attrition. That does not however seem a good way to win a war against NATO as it gives space and time for it to mobilise economically; and let's face it, Russia needs to be able to point to some undeniable victories in the near future.
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I don’t agree with your last two points.
What does NATO have that they can mobilize economically? They have no money, no resources, and no industry base! Unlike WW2, when Europe could look to Uncle Sam for an industrial base of support, China is now the industrial powerhouse. NATO is being drained of the few resources they have through this grind by Russia.
And why on earth does Russia have to point to some undeniable victories? This isn’t the Peoples Choice awards. The west is running a publicity campaign, Russia is disarming Ukraine as per their mandate.
If Russia needs to point to a win, they can point to many; the fact that the western nuclear option (SWIFT, sanctions) failed, or that Saudi publicly stated they are prepared to sell oil in alternative currencies, to name a few.
Posted by: Buddy The Cat | Jan 28 2023 17:17 utc | 66
@ dh | Jan 28 2023 16:26 utc | 47
Yes, the 14 Challenger IIs are listed in the previous reported allocation Jan20'23. Yet to be deployed ...
Poles have a Mech Brigade comprising old T-72s, the (1) referenced, as well as BMP-1 IFVs & Self-propelled howitzers, they are supposedly going to have ready to hand over to AFU between late Feb or March.
Yet there's also talk of it going into Western Ukraine to 'assist' AFU to 'secure' it's rear. Oddly Polish TV now shows western Ukraine as inside Poland's State borders. Given that Ukie State Border Guards & Ukie Police are in desperation being tossed into the trenches and Galicians are resisting forced mobilization, there would be little left to oppose any Polish overly possessive actions.
If added to this latest AFV tranche, given US/NATO fully anticipates impending AFU collapse & intends to bail by Jun/Jul (IMV), just as likely the lot ends up in Western Ukraine as an extra-NATO part occupation, crews & Mech Inf supplied by the UK/Poland/Balts/etc 'Coalition of the Willing'.
Theoretically easier to cover & defend, adjacent Polish border, than all of Ukraine. Vainly try for a negotiated 'Freeze' of the conflict, then build-up for a theoretical try by Empire in another 5-10 years, with a re-invigorated war ready NATO. Relentless psychopaths.
Afghanistan-Mujahedin entrapment, Chechen I & II, Georgian War, now Ukraine, proxy Wars, they will not stop, unless broken on the wheel.
@ marcjf | Jan 28 2023 16:41 utc | 52
AFU are very carefully husbanding/hoarding their remaining functional MBTs/IFVs, hence very few MBTs destroyed past fortnight.
Given that they are critically short of everything, including warm bodies, trained troops/NCOs/Officers, if they cannot keep plugging the holes in the line as their rapidly being bled white, now all along the FEBA to one degree or another, there is & will likely not be 'big arrow' Ops, 'cause the RF will likely roll up the Line when they break.
RF has no reason to change the extremely advantageous men & materiel attrition, now they have hardened, in-depth fortifications to fall back upon if the Ukies get another suicidal assault urge upon 'em, especially given manpower & short, interior, secure redundant, supply lines.
A new problem of the Office of the President is the association of relatives of military personnel into certain active public structures that begin to talk about problems in the army and the country. Speak out in defense of their husbands, sons, etc.Soon they will begin to massively go to demonstrations and rallies, they will be joined by other relatives who are waiting for their own from captivity or looking for the missing person, and their officials are “footballing”.
They will be joined by the military, whom the system has thrown, and now he is an invalid running around the offices to prove his right to a pension and payments.
The situation will grow.
On Bankova understand. They are even working on the concept of anti-crisis, which consists of:
1. Use the SBU, intimidate, silence. Discredit relatives, start branding them as traitors.
2. Move the arrows, finding a scapegoat, perhaps someone in the Moscow Region from the conditional group of Zaluzhny (start kicking his people out of the army).
3. Ignore, block the dissemination of this information and problems.
Watching...
https://t.me/legitimniy/14663
Posted by: Down South | Jan 28 2023 17:18 utc | 68
According to our source, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have a huge shortage of air defense missiles. Now they will not be spent on shooting down various kinds of UAVs (kamikaze, reconnaissance aircraft, etc.), but only to protect against missiles.According to UAVs, they will try to work in the following ways:
1. Anti-aircraft guns, such as Cheetah and old S-60s, shilkas, etc. (to shoot down with a rifle method)
2. Trapping with the help of drone hunters and various kinds of “anti-dron” systems.The West promised to supply about 400 missiles of various modifications (patriot, NASAMS, etc.) for Ukrainian air defense this year, the price of these ammunition is about $1 billion.
When exactly these missiles for air defense installations will arrive is unknown. But that was exactly what was promised.
https://t.me/legitimniy/14661
Posted by: Down South | Jan 28 2023 17:20 utc | 69
Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said Kiev needed to defend European values. “We stand by Ukraine's side without any ifs and buts.”She said Ukraine “is fighting for our shared values, it is fighting for the respect of international law and for the principles of democracy and that is why Ukraine has to win this war.”
Thats really funny. Reminds of this after Stalingrad 1943.
On 3 February at noon, the OKW had a special report read out on GroĂźdeutscher Rundfunk declaring that the 6th Army had fought "to its last breath under the exemplary leadership of Paulus", but had succumbed to "superior force" and "unfavourable conditions". It was declared a historic "bulwark" of a not German, but a "European army" that had led the fight against communism on its behalf.
Posted by: Vikichka | Jan 28 2023 17:25 utc | 70
Reply to #33. Yes , the water quality in Canadas boreal north is pretty bad. But the insuperable problem is geography. It is a vast bowl , a depression , and any waste water, mine tsilings6, diesel spills etc goes into the ground water and stays there for a thousand years. The contained water does not recharge or refresh.
With minuscule numbers of humans nonmadically hunting hither and yon, no problem. That's not the situation now.
First Nations towns and villages , mining operations , fuel losses, have polluted it forever.
Here in North Dakota, the reservations have a guaranteed spring outbreak of bacterial contamination because of the spring runoff ( manured fields, ag fertilization etc,( right into the Missouri
Cities dont suffer because they pull water from the same river but in wells and treatment plants of high expense. The reservations cant afford that. But, the waters ok for 9 months of the year.
Nothing can help Canadas North
Posted by: Philip H Gattey | Jan 28 2023 17:28 utc | 71
Down South @ 64
NATO is ready for a direct confrontation with Russia, but the alliance must rearm, the head of the NATO Military Committee, Admiral Rob Bauer, said in an interview with the Portuguese RTP. In his opinion, Russia's strategic aims are beyond the borders of Ukraine.
Republicofscotland @ 43
Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosetto’s remarks that the Third World War would erupt if Russian tanks reached Kiev and "the borders of Europe", and that the weapons sent to Ukraine were meant to stop the escalation. Medvedev equated his remarks to the calls from the United Kingdom to provide Kiev with all the weapons NATO"
2 + 2 = WW3.
Seeding of the next narrative, manufacturing consent for NATO-Russia war. Stock up on canned food.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 28 2023 17:28 utc | 72
Israel is supporting Ukraine in the war against Russia on a larger scale than advertised - Israeli ambassador to Germany
Posted by: rk | Jan 28 2023 17:39 utc | 73
Information resources in Ukraine are enthusiastically discussing the format of the coming counteroffensive. In particular, it is reported that Zaluzhnyy suggests organizing a "double" counteroffensive in the spring to stretch the Russian army's forces. One group of the Ukrainian Armed Forces should attack in the south, while the second group should organize an additional strike in the direction of Severodonetsk to capture Svatove and Kreminna, creating pressure on Luhansk.At the same time, it is reported that Zaluzhny in his proposal opposes the Pentagon, which allegedly demands from the Nazis, a concentrated strike in the Zaporozye direction to dissect the Russian grouping and force it to retreat to Crimea. But the AFU chief has a different point of view.
If talk of a spring offensive by the AFU should light a light at the end of the tunnel for the dull Ukrainians, or hang a carrot in front of them that they will never reach, then reports of Zaluzhny arguing with the Pentagon and with his provider and protector Mark Milley, without whom he would have been devoured long ago, should show that he is not an American puppet but an independent military commander. Such a classic stubborn Khohol, who is his hetman and cannot be bent. In other words, the media promotion of the general continues.
But apart from the information programs, the question of what to do now remains with the Banderites. Ukrainian sources report that the Pentagon has proposed to Zaluzhniy a defensive strategy along the entire front line to wear down the Russian army's offensive momentum before the spring counteroffensive. To do this, the AFU must impose battles for every town/village. Western military analysts believe it is important "to tie up the enemy in small battles, which will not allow him to use the experience of the Kharkov offensive operation by the AFU with deep flank breakthroughs, and small local victories will only wear down the Russian army. Meanwhile, the reality is that the Bakhmut direction alone has all but eaten away at the 40,000-strong grouping released from near Bakhmut. Which is unsurprising, given the multiple hardware advantage of the Russian forces. If such battles are unleashed along the entire line of contact, the AFU will be finished, perhaps even before the touted spring offensive.
There are reports that the West is preparing an information campaign against the head of the Wagner PMC, Yevgeny Progozhin, which aims to weaken his influence in Russia. Washington is alarmed not only by the combat success of the fighters of the Russian PMCs but also by the fact that it has become a kind of laboratory for the creation and refinement of some effective models that can be extrapolated to other Russian structures. At the behest of their masters, the technologists at Bankova have already launched an information campaign in the Russian telegram feeds, intending to discredit Prigozhin. In particular, they seek to portray him as a contender for supreme power in Russia.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/31187
Posted by: Down South | Jan 28 2023 17:39 utc | 74
🇺🇦 In Ukraine, a new wave of active distribution of subpoenas continues. Military commissariat officers and police officers are on duty near the entrances to shopping centers, on crowded streets and stop cars.The greatest activity in conscription into the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is manifested in Kharkov, Kyiv, Odessa, Dnieper and Transcarpathia.
🇺🇦 Men are seized day and night to drive to the slaughterhouse
Policemen help militants in uniform. The people do not want to die for Zelensky and actively evade the draft.
https://t.me/intelslava/43880
Posted by: Down South | Jan 28 2023 17:42 utc | 75
Who was determining matters before?
Posted by: Bill Smith | Jan 28 2023 17:39 utc | 74
It was the idea that negotiations are over, now it's the army. You can find the video translated on youtube but it's very long. This part is somewhere in the first hour I think
Posted by: rk | Jan 28 2023 17:43 utc | 76
TASS today:
"Ukrainian rocket strike hits hospital in LPR, 14 killed, 24 wounded - Defense Ministry"
Putin hits his snooze button again.
Posted by: Elmagnostic | Jan 28 2023 17:43 utc | 77
Why the meat grinder? Pentagon's idea:
...But apart from the information programs, the question of what to do now remains with the Banderites. Ukrainian sources report that the Pentagon has proposed to Zaluzhniy a defensive strategy along the entire front line to wear down the Russian army's offensive momentum before the spring counteroffensive. To do this, the AFU must impose battles for every town/village. Western military analysts believe it is important "to tie up the enemy in small battles, which will not allow him to use the experience of the Kharkov offensive operation by the AFU with deep flank breakthroughs, and small local victories will only wear down the Russian army. Meanwhile, the reality is that the Bakhmut direction alone has all but eaten away at the 40,000-strong grouping released from near Bakhmut. Which is unsurprising, given the multiple hardware advantage of the Russian forces. If such battles are unleashed along the entire line of contact, the AFU will be finished, perhaps even before the touted spring offensive...
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/31187
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 28 2023 17:48 utc | 78
@ Buddy the cat
I don't necessarily disagree with your points. I think what I am saying is really that if you have the other guy on the floor, that is the time to kick them. Don't give them a chance to get up, recover and continue the fight. The killer blow has not yet been landed. And until it is, the other guy can win or do you damage.
Posted by: marcjf | Jan 28 2023 17:49 utc | 79
" So it makes the US directly complicit. US taxpayers should be aware of how their money is useds" - Permanent Representative of Russia to UN Polyanskiy
twitter.com/Dpol_un/status/1619351009473744898
Posted by: rk | Jan 28 2023 16:37 utc | 51 "
If true then Russia looks like an impotent fool because all they do is complain about their citizens getting slaughtered and never render " payback".
For instance the US "accidentally" bombed a Chinese embassy years ago, Why doesnt Russia get creative ?
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Jan 28 2023 17:52 utc | 80
For instance the US "accidentally" bombed a Chinese embassy years ago, Why doesnt Russia get creative ?
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Jan 28 2023 17:52 utc | 82
Revenge tastes better when it is served cold.
Posted by: KitaySupporter | Jan 28 2023 17:59 utc | 81
A video from the body cameras of some eluminated members of Kraken unit,who intimidated their military personnel is circulating on the networkThis video confirms that the Kraken fighters act as detachments that do not allow ordinary fighters to refuse to perform combat missions.
https://twitter.com/JohnEdgarCarter/status/1619391732214542338
Video embedded in Tweet. Semi graphic. The video cuts as the shooting starts so you don’t see the actual execution.
Posted by: Down South | Jan 28 2023 17:59 utc | 82
" The RF it seems to me has the strategic initiative just now but is not taking advantage of it. Perhaps their High Command prefers a long, slow, drawn out war of attrition. That does not however seem a good way to win a war against NATO as it gives space and time for it to mobilise economically; and let's face it.
Posted by: marcjf | Jan 28 2023 16:41 utc | 52 "
There is no military theory that endorses long, drawn out wars. Not a single one. Therefore, Russia's current actions are confusing at best and highly suspect at worst.
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Jan 28 2023 18:02 utc | 83
Turns out even a 'gas station masquerading as a country' can be deadly if you're grinning like a fool while smoking next to the gas tanks.
Posted by: Boo | Jan 28 2023 18:02 utc | 84
Found an interesting article, linked to from Southfront, on why there won't be any big arrow offensives until the AFU is sufficiently degraded. Instead of big arrow, Russia will concentrate on taking critical nodes along the front line and destroying the AFU formations that get in the way.
https://bmanalysis.substack.com/p/war-update-dedicated-to-slavyangrad
Posted by: Mike R | Jan 28 2023 18:07 utc | 85
Prior to 2014 Moscow and Kiev had good relations but then, with CIA and MI6 founding and meddling, the coup happened - Euromaidan. The dummy government started a process of desovietification and derussification, basically outlawing the communist party and several russophilic parties.
Additionally, Russian language, which was very widespread in Ukraine, even in Kiev, begun to be discriminated and Ukrainian being heavily favoured. This was not a problem in Kiev or LwĂłw but was one in Crimea, Donbass and, in general, the region that's known as Novorossiya because the language of people's forefathers was being eliminated in favor of a minority language - Russian was the native language of the great majority of people in Donbass and Crimea.
Banning loved parties and discriminating languages stired conflict up. Crimea decided to join Russia because since this was a peninsula, Ukrainian army couldn't prevent the annexation and Donbass decided to take up in arms because Ukrainian army, mainly neo-nazis of Azov Battalion and Right Sector, were able to stop these oblasts from joining Russia. This was an ongoing conflict since 2014 with russophilic rebels. A peaceful resolution was drafted but was never implemented.
In essence, one reason for the start of the special military operation responded to the grass-root desire of many people in Ukraine's eastern oblasts to escape the far-right government of Ukraine that discriminated people's believes, ideologies and cultures.
All know that NATO is a terrorist organization with millions of deaths upon its shoulders. Its officials are thugs. All know why NATO was created : Keeping Russians out, Americans in and Germans down. After the unfortunate dissolution of the soviet union, NATO was not dissolved because its objective was not fulfilled : Moscow hadn't bowed down to Washington. NATO has always pursued western hegemony and Moscow stood in the way. Kievan regime flirted with joining EU but most worrisome, flirted with joining NATO. This was an undeniable security concern for Moscow : An organization that so deeply desires to annihilate itself at the doorstep. The baltic states joining was already a HUGE concession, Ukraine couldn't be surrendered.
Posted by: Consistent Drive | Jan 28 2023 18:07 utc | 86
"What is the purpose of this silliness? Is there actually anybody that believe any of it?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1727019/Vladimir-Putin-Ukraine-war-Russia-tanks-T-34-Laos
Posted by: Rune | Jan 28 2023 12:30 utc | 9"
Ukraine is buying T - 34 from Laos; when burnt T 34 tanks are found in images, people will naturally ask who used that. For that, a parallel construction is now being built. "Putin used those tanks, and our brave warriors destroyed them; see, Russia is scraping the bottom".
Posted by: Old Brown Fool | Jan 28 2023 18:08 utc | 87
Et tu no. 40
If only the west had such articulate speakers and politicians.
But look what we are lumped with. A bunch of silly, childish, lying hypocrites.
Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Jan 28 2023 18:08 utc | 88
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome 80
If the pentagon's strategy is to tie up Russia in small battles, then Bakhmut, where the Ukies have 20-30 brigades, isn't part of the plan. Seems that plan can only work if the AFU has sufficient forces to hold the entire front line, which it doesn't. The Russians will look for areas that the Ukrainians have left thinly defended and attack there, taking one critical junction after another, while the AFU plays whackamole. Their best defensive fortifications break in multiple places. Sounds like the pentagon plan plays right into Russian strategy.
Posted by: Mike R | Jan 28 2023 18:16 utc | 89
Good to see some of the Russian and Ukrainian telegram reporters reporting in English are starting to correct their erroneous use of the false cognate "direction". Of course, in some contexts it is the appropriate word, e.g. where movement is implied. I wait impatiently for tardier ones to follow suit.
Posted by: petra | Jan 28 2023 18:18 utc | 90
@ LightYearsFromHome | Jan 28 2023 16:28 utc | 48
If Erdogan got anything out of it I'd imagine it's denominated in rubles.
Posted by: John Kennard | Jan 28 2023 18:46 utc | 91
reply to 80
It's strange to hear the Pentagon's supposed strategy because it looks no different from what Ukraine is already forced to do: be defensive, fight for every town. If I was Zaluzhny, I'd feel insulted
They should have done mobile warfare as Russia does, not fighting for every inch of territory - but it's too late. They've lost too much armor and men.
Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 28 2023 18:48 utc | 92
@ Et Tu | Jan 28 2023 16:05 utc | 40
Thanks for the links to Maria.
I hope somebody could find her with original Soundtrack and just english subtitle.
I hope Karlof1 wil find the whole speech in Russian and could provide a translation on his VK.
Posted by: La Bastille | Jan 28 2023 18:57 utc | 93
Neo-nazis use 88 as an abbreviation for the nazi salute. H is eighth in the alphabet, whereby 88 becomes HH.Often, this number is associated with 14, E.G. 14-88 or 1488. This number symbolizes the fourteen words coined by David Lane, a prominent white supremacist.
Posted by: Fyre | Jan 28 2023 18:58 utc | 94
I have leapt to the conclusion that "Down South" is called thus, because, well, because, he is talking out of his nether regions ?
Mmm, qué ?
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Jan 28 2023 19:12 utc | 95
@Colin | Jan 28 2023 11:24 utc | 2
@Colin | Jan 28 2023 11:32 utc | 3
The most fascist country in history is the USA.
"The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism—ownership of Government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.The second truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if its business system does not provide employment and produce and distribute goods in such a way as to sustain an acceptable standard of living." Roosevelt Franklin D. US President (1938-04-29). Message to Congress on Curbing Monopolies.
To avoid this, the USA has merely redefined how fascism is seen. As an aside, it is also strange to see a country with more of it's citizens incarcerated and under judicial supervision than any other totalitarian state in history talking about liberty and freedom, especially when it has the world's largest percentage of extreme poor and a rising level of people without "an acceptable standard of living".
It is also worth refreshing your understanding of genocide.
Genocide, as defined by the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (the Genocide Convention) and enforced by the UN Office on Genocide Prevention and the Duty to Protect (refer https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml) and cited on the above Website as:
Definition
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
1 Killing members of the group;
2 Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
3 Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
4 Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
5 Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
While not as bad as Israel, the Ukraine has engaged and is still indubitably engaged in 1, 2, and 3 above, against people of Russian and Hungarian origin.
Posted by: Hermit | Jan 28 2023 19:14 utc | 96
@ Et Tu | Jan 28 2023 16:05 utc | 40Thanks for the links to Maria.
I hope somebody could find her with original Soundtrack and just english subtitle.
I hope Karlof1 wil find the whole speech in Russian and could provide a translation on his VK.
Posted by: La Bastille | Jan 28 2023 18:57 utc | 95
No need to task Karlof! with this. It is on the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs website in English. I suggest you bookmark the site if you are interested. If blocked use a VPN.
https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1850728
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 28 2023 19:18 utc | 97
It's not just the EU politicians, it's the EU electorate too. They want war and devastation they will get. Now, how do I avoid this shit the idiots are bringing down.
The long-time Russophobe Petr Pavel (yes, that is his real name) wins the Czech presidential election
The second round of the presidential elections in the Czech Republic by more than 15% wins the old enemy of our country, ex-Chairman of the NATO Military Committee - General Petr Pavel, who was promptly congratulated by Zelensky, apparently expecting a change in the Czech policy on the issue of Leopard supplies. However, his rival Andrej Babiš also had no particular sympathy for Russia.
"Only pressure and the language of force apply to Russia at the moment. I do not mean threats, but a confident force that will clearly establish barriers beyond which it must no longer go," Petr Pavel said in an interview with the Czech publication iROZHLAS on May 9, 2022.Â
As far back as 2016, as chairman of NATO's Military Committee, Pavel put the threat from Russia on a par with international terrorism and extremism. Today, he calls on Europe to actively support the Kiev regime. General Pavel's militaristic campaign slogan is: "It's time to use the big guns".
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/31206
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 28 2023 19:18 utc | 98
Yesterday's Weekly Briefing by Maria Zakharova had one of the longest Q&A sessions I've seen, 41, after 14 main points covered in here briefing. Out of all that, I chose the following Q&A to share here. Yes, there's additional context to the answer as Maria notes the reader will need to discover.
Question: I would like to ask a question from the Italian NGO Humanity within the War. It was asked by the President, Professor P. Pasculo. He is the son of an Italian soldier in Donetsk, who later became an anti-fascist, he was saved by a Russian woman. Preserved spelling and spelling style:"We know that the Russians paid the biggest blood debt in World War II, and there was no hatred for the soldiers who, despite them, were sent to Russia by villainous governments.
NATO is aggressive. What can Russia do, what sacrifices or renunciations is it willing to make to save the world and bring peace, knowing that the West will not appreciate it?"
Maria Zakharova: Today I partially answered this question. No matter how you think that times are changing, humanity is progressing, this is a controversial topic. By and large, no advances in science and technology change human nature. The problems of humanity remain the same: what is good and evil? What is more important – love, compassion, mutual assistance, respect, support or benefit, self-interest, comfort, etc.?
To the question of what our country can do, what sacrifices or renunciations it is ready to make in order to save and bring peace, Russia answers right now, every day. It did not begin on February 24, 2022, but much earlier. In our history, we have always answered the same questions.
In the twentieth century, the response was global. They thought that mankind would have enough of this answer for a long time. But see, the memory seems to be getting shorter. Perhaps because there are a large number of means of storing information, a person does not need to keep so much in mind, everyone forgets about what happened 50, 60 or 70 years ago. Unfortunately, the memory of those times evaporates. People are leaving, family members who remembered. Reading a book or going to an encyclopedia, going to the library is not a part of our lives today. There are a lot of fakes on the Internet, propaganda works.
It so happened that once again in its own and world history, Russia is again forced to answer the same questions. She made her choice. It was also done by the Russian people to preserve the civilizational values that are the true property of our planet, humanity, what we have just talked about: love, mutual respect, respect for ancestors, glorification of true heroes, anathema to traitors and enemies who destroy people. The most important factor is the desire and ability to stand up for those who, with absolutely no reason to do so, have been shamelessly subjected to trials and tortures for many years. Russia is now answering all these questions not only to the world community, but also largely to itself.
Again as it was announced over 80 years ago, Russia fights to establish the Four Freedoms, the same freedoms the Outlaw US Empire/NATO now wish to destroy and replace with "rules" that will never allow them to flourish.
Yesterday's Weekly Briefing by Maria Zakharova had one of the longest Q&A sessions I've seen, 41, after 14 main points covered in here briefing. Out of all that, I chose the following Q&A to share here. Yes, there's additional context to the answer as Maria notes the reader will need to discover.
Question: I would like to ask a question from the Italian NGO Humanity within the War. It was asked by the President, Professor P. Pasculo. He is the son of an Italian soldier in Donetsk, who later became an anti-fascist, he was saved by a Russian woman. Preserved spelling and spelling style:"We know that the Russians paid the biggest blood debt in World War II, and there was no hatred for the soldiers who, despite them, were sent to Russia by villainous governments.
NATO is aggressive. What can Russia do, what sacrifices or renunciations is it willing to make to save the world and bring peace, knowing that the West will not appreciate it?"
Maria Zakharova: Today I partially answered this question. No matter how you think that times are changing, humanity is progressing, this is a controversial topic. By and large, no advances in science and technology change human nature. The problems of humanity remain the same: what is good and evil? What is more important – love, compassion, mutual assistance, respect, support or benefit, self-interest, comfort, etc.?
To the question of what our country can do, what sacrifices or renunciations it is ready to make in order to save and bring peace, Russia answers right now, every day. It did not begin on February 24, 2022, but much earlier. In our history, we have always answered the same questions.
In the twentieth century, the response was global. They thought that mankind would have enough of this answer for a long time. But see, the memory seems to be getting shorter. Perhaps because there are a large number of means of storing information, a person does not need to keep so much in mind, everyone forgets about what happened 50, 60 or 70 years ago. Unfortunately, the memory of those times evaporates. People are leaving, family members who remembered. Reading a book or going to an encyclopedia, going to the library is not a part of our lives today. There are a lot of fakes on the Internet, propaganda works.
It so happened that once again in its own and world history, Russia is again forced to answer the same questions. She made her choice. It was also done by the Russian people to preserve the civilizational values that are the true property of our planet, humanity, what we have just talked about: love, mutual respect, respect for ancestors, glorification of true heroes, anathema to traitors and enemies who destroy people. The most important factor is the desire and ability to stand up for those who, with absolutely no reason to do so, have been shamelessly subjected to trials and tortures for many years. Russia is now answering all these questions not only to the world community, but also largely to itself.
Again as it was announced over 80 years ago, Russia fights to establish the Four Freedoms, the same freedoms the Outlaw US Empire/NATO now wish to destroy and replace with "rules" that will never allow them to flourish.
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One MBLRS claimed destroyed. Eleven Howitzers & Self-Propelled Howitzers destroyed. Comparatively high single days rate of Artillery losses.
Below average AFVs & Vehicles destroyed. One artillery ammunition dump destroyed.
Three US counter-battery radar stations were destroyed. Now becoming a daily event.
Continuing destruction of ammo, fuel or arty dumps/depots, now concealed repair/recovery facilities. Targeted crippling/reduction of AFU rear of FEBA combat service/support & logistics stores to indirectly reduce AFU crewed-arms combat power over time due exacerbated shortages or non resupply.
Sustained increase in Op tempo. Sustained localized assaults & limited offensive action on multiple frontages along the FEBA.
Posted by: Outraged | Jan 28 2023 11:23 utc | 1