@aristodemos | Jan 27 2023 16:07 utc | 424
Russia has produced thermobaric weapons and warheads, from airborne bombs to rifle grenades.
Thermobaric munitions can be traced back to the German Army of World War II who used a six barrelled 15cm Nebelwerfer rocket launcher on the Eastern Front. One of the launcher’s loadings incorporated propane gas. The first five rounds carried the gas and the sixth was the detonating round. This gas was released when the round landed, mixed with the air to produce an explosive vapour, and was then detonated by the final round [Bellamy RF, Zajtchuk R. The weapons of conventional warfare. In: Bellamy RF, Zajtchuk R, editors. Conventional warfare: ballistic, blast and burn injuries. Washington D.C: Office of the Surgeon General; 1991. p. 1-52]. At a later stage, larger calibre rockets contained conventional explosive inside a thin wall to give an increased blast effect. Following these early attempts, little was developed until the 1960’s.
The United States started using FAEs during the Vietnam War [Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. Anti-personnel weapons. London: The Institute; 1978.] and had various loadings of aircraft bombs.
The Soviet Union started using thermobaric weapons during their war in Afghanistan and the Russia has used them more recently in Chechnya. Russia has loadings in aircraft bombs and rockets, and ground launched rockets down to a man portable size [Human Rights Watch. Backgrounder on Russian fuel air explosives (“vacuum bombs”). https://www.hrw.org/news/2000/02/01/chechnya-conflict-use-vacuum-bombs-russian-forces.%5D.
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The employment of thermobaric munitions starts at the soldiers’ level with Russia using RPO-A Shmel disposable rocket launchers and thermobaric rockets for the RPG-7 family of weapons. The effectiveness of the Shmel round has been compared to the 122mm artillery round, especially against buildings especially against buildings. There is also a 42mm hand held magazine grenade launchers.
Next in line are the anti tank rocket launchers that are either wire or radio guided and include the Shturm, Ataka, Fagot and Komet systems. The Shturm and Ataka can also be helicopter launched.
The USSR has been fond of multiple ground­ launched rocket systems since Stalin and this tradition has continued since. There are Uragan and Buratino 220mm launcher systems and the 300mm Smerch rocket systems.Airborne weapons include the 80mm S-8D and the 122mm S-13D unguided rockets, 500 kg ODAB- 500PM bomb, the KAB-500kr-OD television guided bomb and the ODS-OD BLU dispenser with BKF ODS­ OD-cluster bomblets.
Andrews David (2003-03). MUNITIONS – Thermobaric Munitions and their Medical Effects. Journal of Military and Veterans’ Health. Volume 12 No.1.
To this I would add the TOS-1A Solntsepyok multiple rocket launcher and thermobaric weapon by UralVagonZavod Research and Development Corporation which has been confirmed to have been used to great effect in Syria and Ukraine. Refer e.g. Majumdar Dave (2015-12-02). Russia’s Lethal Thermobaric Rocket Launchers: A Game Changer in Syria?The National Interest.
And by the way, personnel in a tank would be vaporized along with the tank if in the target zone of one of these cheap and effective weapons. Particularly as Russia has air delivered versions yielding approximately 40 tonnes of TNT (about four times larger than the US GBU-43/B MOAB at 11 tonnes TNT equivalence). Smaller weapons now abound.
These include the semi-automatic command to line of sight (SACLOS) or millimeter-wave active radar homing guided thermobaric variants of the 9M123 Khrizantema, the 9M133F-1 thermobaric warhead variant of the 9M133 Kornet, and the 9M131F thermobaric warhead variant of the 9K115-2 Metis-M, all of which are anti-tank missiles. The Kornet has since been upgraded to the Kornet-EM, and its thermobaric variant has a maximum range of 10 km (6 mi) and has a TNT equivalence of 7 kg (15 lb). The 300 mm (12 in) 9M55S thermobaric cluster warhead rocket was built to be fired from the BM-30 Smerch MLRS. A dedicated carrier of thermobaric weapons is the purpose-built TOS-1, a 24-tube MLRS designed to fire 220 mm (8.7 in) thermobaric rockets. A full salvo from the TOS-1 will cover a rectangle 200 by 400 m (220 by 440 yd). The Iskander-M theatre ballistic missile can also carry a 700 kg (1,540 lb) thermobaric warhead.
Many Russian Air Force munitions also have thermobaric variants. The 80 mm (3.1 in) S-8 rocket has the S-8DM and S-8DF thermobaric variants. The S-8’s 122 mm (4.8 in) brother, the S-13, has the S-13D and S-13DF thermobaric variants. The S-13DF’s warhead weighs only 32 kg (71 lb), but its power is equivalent to 40 kg (88 lb) of TNT. The KAB-500-OD variant of the KAB-500KR has a 250 kg (550 lb) thermobaric warhead. The ODAB-500PM and ODAB-500PMV[41] unguided bombs carry a 190 kg (420 lb) fuel–air explosive each. The KAB-1500S GLONASS/GPS guided 1,500 kg (3,300 lb) bomb also has a thermobaric variant. Its fireball will cover a 150 m (490 ft) radius and its lethal zone is a 500 m (1,600 ft) radius. The 9M120 Ataka-V and the 9K114 Shturm ATGMs both have thermobaric variants.
Thermobaric weapon at Wikipedia.

Posted by: Hermit | Jan 28 2023 3:01 utc | 503

John PIlger…..
The anglo/euro clique,
The garden of mushrooms..
Kept in the dark and fed BS all day long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUsIyX4yNzo

Posted by: denk | Jan 28 2023 5:09 utc | 505

Did bare faced liar, Brockback misspeak by declaring ‘we are at WAR with Russia’ ?
Did the audience gasp in horror?
NO – they applauded.
It’s as if she had finished her rousing speech by proclaiming ‘SIEG’ and they responded with a loud ‘HEIL’.
It is not so subtle linguistic programming of us, the audience that soundbite is propagated by the censorious mass media.
Fuck her and fuck them all, for voicing their WAR lust and racism against Russians.
No more cancelling of Russia , No more racism against Russia, No more glorification of Nazi Ukrops no matter how ‘few’ they are ; No more fetishisation of the Ukraine and its ‘innocent’ raised and schooled with false history and slogans and songs of Bandera and their Sieg Heil saluting . Children for gods sake , exactly the same as the German Nazi Youth were brainwashed.. the same as the elites youth of the Wests rulers have been for even longer.
War?
NOT IN MY NAME.
Let’s start marching and stop it by threatening their bucolic secure Gardens

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 28 2023 9:24 utc | 507

Opport Knocks | Jan 27 2023 23:59 utc | 503
I downloaded it. I developed the habit to look first at the person that releases statements or books with big claims.
https://mynewspage.wordpress.com/websites/deanna-spingola/ – enough to see that the whole thing is a busy compilation of a huge amount of mixed „papers“. Together with the personal background of the author absolutely untrustful. As I supposed: some Illinois housewife acts as a loudspeaker for her ingroup.

Posted by: Hausmeister | Jan 28 2023 11:31 utc | 509

David Levin | Jan 28 2023 14:30 utc | 512
Isn’t this a very daring attitude? When my position is based on published information my biography is not much relevant? If anything published is 100% true and above question this would be the case. It is not like this. So one can make up a position based on 10000x published crap pieces that may impress the temporarily interested parties or the own filter bubble.

Posted by: Hausmeister | Jan 28 2023 15:34 utc | 511

David Levin | Jan 28 2023 17:21 utc | 514
“Even if I find those few references valid, that of course can’t be extrapolated to all of the references cited by a given work. But the author’s being credentialed doesn’t overcome that limitation either.”
Indeed. When an author comes up with some hundred footnotes and literature citations and I do not see in the biography that this person worked for 5 years with some kind of research fund – then my impression is that this author tries, being a bold impostor, to impress with sheer abundance of what he supposedly read. Knowing how time consuming it can be just to get hold of that literature, especially in some spot in Illinois, I opt for the quickshot to assume that the whole thing of Deanna Spingola is not serious, not trustable. Yes, this is an assumption and not a proof.

Posted by: Hausmeister | Jan 28 2023 17:58 utc | 513

This is only the beginning of it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odesa_catacombs

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Jan 28 2023 20:05 utc | 515

Posted by: Hmpf | Jan 28 2023 20:37 utc | 518
Correct, so just like a nuclear bomb they could blow themselves up and all the rest of us I reckon, but I seen a thermaBARIC bomb land in the trenches and it is most effective to eliminate defenders defending the indefensible I reckon.
The reality is logistics rule the day, and who has the initiative on that I query rhetorically and to stay on topic and such.
Seems evident, so only question left to be answered is how long this travesty will continue – the longer it goes on, the more likely nefarious forces can assert their will on the matter, so from the mind of an objective observer, my sentiment if I could share it with Russia is simply this.
Best to take initiative when you have it and trust your troops and your Generals to get the special mission completed expeditiously, because the longer you eff around the greater the probability that nefarious forces will throw in a wrench in you ambitions and ain’t it time for these nefarious forces to get what they deserve.
Justified Retribution is called upon but like everything else it has limits.
BK

Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Jan 28 2023 23:31 utc | 517

Hausmeister @511
Du bist ein Scheisskendorfer.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 29 2023 5:03 utc | 519

Hmpf | Jan 28 2023 20:37 utc | 518
From what I have seen, Russia is the world leader at cooking up high energy density rocket fuel.
The blast and visible shock waves coming off mini me Tos and big brother 300mm tornado put US shock and awe to shame. Until recently video were of just partial salvos. Three or four shots. But just in the last week or two, videos are coming out of perhaps full salvos.Energy density…
As Putin said “you aint seen nothin yet” or words to that effect.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 29 2023 5:27 utc | 521

Posted by: Planner | Jan 29 2023 2:25 utc | 520
Heh, I was just channeling Gordie H. there.
Spent time in Edmonton as a kid in ’50s.
Flyers were DRW farm team, so fandom locked up.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 29 2023 5:52 utc | 523

Re my 526. One only needs to look at Assuage to see how the magic words “National Interest” over rides the imaginary rule of law.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 29 2023 5:56 utc | 525

aristodemos | Jan 29 2023 5:08 utc | 522
“Seems you never did respond to my query as to which Near Eastern country you are a resident.”
You look here:
“Mainly in Turkey.” I must not be resident there.
Posted by: Hausmeister | Jan 28 2023 8:08 utc | 508
And then you accept my estimation that this „event“ has to be taken as a measure for the level of all your other statements like this one:
Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 27 2023 23:56 utc | 501
I used the time browsing around in this huge “elaboration” by Spingola. Confirmed my impression: braindead right wing shit. Not each single citation there, her mindset. The best protected secrets of this world – who discovered it and let us know about it? A housewife in Illinois? Get adult, please.

Posted by: Hausmeister | Jan 29 2023 7:14 utc | 527