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January 26, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-22
Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Opport Knocks no. 96 Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Jan 26 2023 18:18 utc | 101 Posted by: Shannon with Z | Jan 26 2023 17:47 utc | 9 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 26 2023 18:18 utc | 102 But where will they get the Dilithium crystals these Turkish Power Kebabs need to stabilize their anti-matter drives? Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 26 2023 18:21 utc | 103 Douglas McGregor..on a recent webcast alluded to a George Soros document from a decade ago ..I’m still searching for it…but the Colonel has his wits about him….the document alluded to a future necessary conflict against the last Bastion of Nationalism left…. Russia…and how it was preferable if the Eastern Europeans subdued the Russian State because Western Europe did not have the stomach for fighting. It is the Globalists that must be destroyed before they destroy all of us….by trying to destroy Russia they are pushing us over the precipe of nuclear annihilation……the missing trillions from the defence budgets are massive underground bases for the top 1%. Arestovich is still alive because he is protected by the Americans….it is part of the regime change currently under way…his truth and candid opinions of zelensky are damaging whilst Zaluzhnyi inherits a million dollars and donates it all to the Ukrainian Defence department….whilst Zelensky’s buddies are being purged….many for corruption. Handing out speeding tickets at the Indy500….in the most bloated corrupt State in Europe. Btw….Zelensky is worth over a billion dollars while on the subject. Eventually.. hopefully Ukrainian troops will start killing off the paramilitaries in the rear that are compelled performance by firing squads Posted by: Joe | Jan 26 2023 18:23 utc | 104 @chunga Posted by: Fred | Jan 26 2023 18:32 utc | 105 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jan 26 2023 18:21 utc | 105 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 26 2023 18:37 utc | 106 Russian frigate ‘ Admiral Goloshkov’ near Bermuda in Western Atlantic simulated Hypersonic Zircon missile attack on presumably US coast yesterday.The “attack” included the use of ECM that disrupted radar and cell phones in mid-Atlantic for 34 seconds.Things are getting bleak. Posted by: Lou Cypher | Jan 26 2023 18:37 utc | 107 Perimetr @ 98
I have no idea, I found it interesting enough to cross post. I try and keep any links when I copy/paste from TG for others to reference. Sladkov is the most reputable and famous war corespondent in Russia, he referenced the Leonkov guy so make of that what you will. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 26 2023 18:39 utc | 108 Lou Cypher @ 109
The Bermuda Triangle! 😱 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 26 2023 18:42 utc | 109 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13QexAn9v30 Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 26 2023 18:45 utc | 110 Has Defense Minister Boris Pistorius not thought about it, did he just slip out of it or does he simply assume that no one in Germany will pick it up in the mainstream media anyway? Foreign Minister Baerbock’s statement “We are fighting a war against Russia” didn’t bother anyone either… Only the Berliner Zeitung lost a critical word about it. Posted by: mo3 | Jan 26 2023 18:48 utc | 111 Posted by: Eighthman | Jan 26 2023 18:45 utc | 112 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 26 2023 19:00 utc | 112
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/30848
Posted by: Down South | Jan 26 2023 19:09 utc | 113 @ 112 “This then brings up the issue of where are Ukr troops if they have such huge numbers yet to mobilize?” Posted by: chunga | Jan 26 2023 19:16 utc | 114 From my post in the previous thread Posted by: RealBeast | Jan 26 2023 19:17 utc | 115 mo3 | Jan 26 2023 18:48 utc | 113 Posted by: rk | Jan 26 2023 19:23 utc | 116 Is this Western war on Russia simply stupidity? Posted by: juliania | Jan 26 2023 19:28 utc | 117 re: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 26 2023 13:52 utc | 37 Posted by: Perimetr | Jan 26 2023 19:44 utc | 118 The moral of the story I leave to you Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 26 2023 19:46 utc | 119 | Jan 26 2023 18:23 utc | 106 Posted by: fanto | Jan 26 2023 19:52 utc | 120 🪖 A little bit about the statistics of enemy equipment defeated in the SMO zone Posted by: unimperator | Jan 26 2023 20:00 utc | 121 ‘First Come the Tanks, Then Come the Nukes’: Trump Calls on Biden to End ‘Crazy’ Ukraine Conflict
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Posted by: Likklemore | Jan 26 2023 20:10 utc | 122 @moderator. The poster posting as ‘Boo’ is impersonating me, you can see by the IP address. Please ban him. I have been posting as ‘Boo’ for the past weeks. Posted by: Boo | Jan 26 2023 20:10 utc | 123 https://thesaker.is/douglas-macgregor-a-huge-offensive/ Posted by: Joe | Jan 26 2023 20:18 utc | 124 Barflies, Posted by: Exile | Jan 26 2023 20:20 utc | 125 This in The Irish Times (MSM) yesterday: Posted by: Irish | Jan 26 2023 20:25 utc | 126 Russia strikes again today. 55 missiles and a 2nd wave of drones. Posted by: jgalt | Jan 26 2023 20:31 utc | 127 What say ye? Posted by: Irish | Jan 26 2023 20:35 utc | 128 War To The Last Ukrainian Accelerates – Pressgangs Kidnap Men For Front (Overview, Videos) Posted by: xor | Jan 26 2023 20:36 utc | 129
You can still watch the episode from the start, just move the cursor there: Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 26 2023 20:38 utc | 130 Numbers according to Wagner.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 26 2023 20:46 utc | 131 Posted by: xor | Jan 26 2023 20:36 utc | 132 Posted by: Vikichka | Jan 26 2023 20:57 utc | 132 @132 That article doesn’t say where the 250 tanks will be waiting, loaded with fuel and ammunition, to rush into the gap. And I bet the RF will never notice the build up. Posted by: dh | Jan 26 2023 20:57 utc | 133 Irish @ 129
The good prof. might be rational but that is all he is, it’s still all Putin this, Putin that, Putin up, Putin down, Putin all around. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 26 2023 21:02 utc | 134 Ukraine has been involved in Nato joint drills for 8 years, this war has been planned since 2014 they should and will have people trained on these tanks. Posted by: OohCanada | Jan 26 2023 21:04 utc | 135 xor | Jan 26 2023 20:36 utc | 132 Posted by: rk | Jan 26 2023 21:05 utc | 136 An honest question for those who care to speculate. Posted by: jgalt | Jan 26 2023 21:06 utc | 137 @132 Posted by: Irish | Jan 26 2023 21:06 utc | 138 @OohCanada | Jan 26 2023 21:04 utc | 138
I don’t think so. They bet the farm on Russia crumbling from sanctions within weeks, and it failed spectacularly. Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 26 2023 21:08 utc | 139 Ukraine has formally requested all Ukrainian male citizens of fighting age in Europe be extradited Posted by: Gorn | Jan 26 2023 21:09 utc | 140 jgalt | Jan 26 2023 21:06 utc | 140
Maybe he isn’t the Ernst Stavro Blofeld type the media wants you to believe? Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 26 2023 21:10 utc | 141 Posted by: xor | Jan 26 2023 20:36 utc | 132 Posted by: unimperator | Jan 26 2023 21:12 utc | 142 @mo3 | Jan 26 2023 18:48 utc
I dare to disagree. Posted by: BG13 | Jan 26 2023 21:13 utc | 143 Posted by: Drinky Crow | Jan 26 2023 18:15 utc | 102 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 26 2023 21:15 utc | 144 Gorn no. 143 Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Jan 26 2023 21:24 utc | 145 Too late. Women already part of Ukranian army. Posted by: R3DP1LL3R | Jan 26 2023 21:27 utc | 146 Long time reader of comments here, but first time to post. I guess I am on so many US Government enemy lists, one more won’t matter. Posted by: Rolando | Jan 26 2023 21:35 utc | 147 re: jgalt | Jan 26 2023 21:06 utc | 140 Posted by: Perimetr | Jan 26 2023 21:37 utc | 148 RSH @77– a shared external reality Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 26 2023 21:42 utc | 150 Currently at Dances With Bears: Posted by: nwwoods | Jan 26 2023 21:42 utc | 151 Posted by: Perimetr | Jan 26 2023 21:37 utc | 151 Posted by: watcher | Jan 26 2023 21:44 utc | 152 Jigalt @140 Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 26 2023 21:44 utc | 153 Too late. Women already part of Ukranian army. Posted by: Vikichka | Jan 26 2023 21:46 utc | 154 @ jgalt | Jan 26 2023 21:06 utc | 140 Posted by: james | Jan 26 2023 21:47 utc | 155 re: jgalt | Jan 26 2023 21:06 utc | 140 Posted by: jgalt | Jan 26 2023 21:48 utc | 156 RE: Gorn no. 143 Posted by: Aslangeo | Jan 26 2023 21:50 utc | 157 Posted by: nwwoods | Jan 26 2023 21:42 utc | 154 Posted by: watcher | Jan 26 2023 21:59 utc | 158 Worth watching, one hell of an amazing kaboom, start w/ the 2nd vid:
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/49001 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 26 2023 22:04 utc | 159 Jigalt @ 159 Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 26 2023 22:04 utc | 160 @ jgalt | Jan 26 2023 21:48 utc | 159 Posted by: james | Jan 26 2023 22:08 utc | 161 Vajezatha | Jan 26 2023 17:59 utc | 97 – Cc: @stranger Posted by: OttoE | Jan 26 2023 22:10 utc | 162 Posted by: Joe | Jan 26 2023 18:23 utc | 106
a clinical psychopath. I hadn’t expected that, though it fits a personality type in HBS cases commonly associated with and selected for securities trading desks (before HFT automation). Posted by: sln2002 | Jan 26 2023 22:11 utc | 163 A few dozen tanks, even a few hundred tanks does not seem significant, much less some kind of game changer, considering the size of this metastasizing war. Posted by: Elmagnostic | Jan 26 2023 22:15 utc | 164 @juliania | Jan 26 2023 19:28 utc | 119 Posted by: Hermit | Jan 26 2023 22:15 utc | 165 There must be lots of young Ukrainian men and women hiding out in the UK. I’m sure Sunak will do everything in his power to make sure they go back and fight for democracy. They would probably jump at the chance to train on Challenger tanks. Posted by: dh | Jan 26 2023 22:16 utc | 166 Trump foresees nuclear after tanks, unless they stop the war (they created). I’d say it’s more like this: tanks, boots on the ground, nukes. Regardless, there are innumerable variants to this Beckettian endgame. e.g. poloniumizing Putin, sinking the Admiral Gorshkov frigate or some Brig. Gen. Jack D. Ripper paired with Pedo the Senile. Fun times, as seen through Kubrick’s eyes at least. Btw, was his death natural? Posted by: Sektion2B | Jan 26 2023 22:16 utc | 167 Interesting times. Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jan 26 2023 22:24 utc | 168 Big Serge update. Posted by: unimperator | Jan 26 2023 22:27 utc | 169 Bravo Canada! That’s the spirit… Posted by: dh | Jan 26 2023 22:32 utc | 170 Sektion 2B NO. 170 Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Jan 26 2023 22:35 utc | 171 Sam @ 34 Posted by: mjh | Jan 26 2023 22:37 utc | 173 Mrs Baerbock is a rather unattractive, immoral harpy without a conscience and I hope she gets what she deserves. But well, she may be less hypocritacal than most Western politicians. What can be more nauseating than hearing some of them repeat that “they don’t want to escalate”, “their war is not against Russian people” etc. As if the Rubicon hasn’t been crossed. Posted by: Anthony | Jan 26 2023 22:37 utc | 174 Admittedly Turkiye runs hot and cold but right now it’s hot and this is the from the FM: Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 26 2023 22:38 utc | 175 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 26 2023 22:38 utc | 178 Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Jan 26 2023 22:44 utc | 176 This might interest those asserting the innate superiority of US tanks and crews. Posted by: Hermit | Jan 26 2023 22:46 utc | 177 per my post @179….make that an “attempted” coup…..and doesn’t mean I love Turkey, but just means the times are changing and I suspect the changes will be rapid. Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Jan 26 2023 22:47 utc | 178 Sektion 2B no. 175 Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Jan 26 2023 22:53 utc | 179 @mjh | Jan 26 2023 22:37 utc | 176 Posted by: Hermit | Jan 26 2023 22:54 utc | 180 Posted by: Hermit | Jan 26 2023 22:46 utc | 180 Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Jan 26 2023 23:03 utc | 181 Shannon with Z | Jan 26 2023 17:47 utc | 94 Posted by: Hermit | Jan 26 2023 23:03 utc | 182 For the sake of accuracy, from the link provided by Hermit – @180 Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Jan 26 2023 23:05 utc | 183 Blinken Convinced Biden to Give Ukraine Tanks to Conceal NATO Rift Over Military Aid, Reports Say
Fighter Jets next
Ok, the tanks were a bust and the F-16s got taken down…. Posted by: Likklemore | Jan 26 2023 23:07 utc | 184 One Pantsir shot down 12 HIMARS missiles recently. Well, the new Pantsir ad hoc upgrade seems to be working. You learn as you go. Posted by: Sektion2B | Jan 26 2023 23:11 utc | 185 Buffalo_Ken: I hope Türkiye NEVER leaves NATO. Türkiye’s role as monkey wrench in the NATO gears is invaluable. Posted by: malenkov | Jan 26 2023 23:16 utc | 186 slippery slope.. might makes right… drones are okay, even if you accidentally take out the wrong family and etc. etc.. do you live in the usa or some brainwashed western place? Posted by: jgalt | Jan 26 2023 23:20 utc | 187 I would really know how serious the numbers of the Russian DoD about material and personell losses of the Ukranine can be taken. Posted by: Johannes S. Herbst | Jan 26 2023 23:23 utc | 188 Jigalt @ 159 Posted by: jgalt | Jan 26 2023 23:24 utc | 189 prez biden says usa will do what it takes as long as it takes with euro lives to push donbas and crimea back into ukrostan….!! territorial integrity. Posted by: paddy | Jan 26 2023 23:27 utc | 190 Buffalo_Ken: I hope Türkiye NEVER leaves NATO. Türkiye’s role as monkey wrench in the NATO gears is invaluable. Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Jan 26 2023 23:30 utc | 192 Who is paying for these Karpowerships, when and with what? What fuel are these Karpowerships to use? Where will it be sourced? Who will pay for it, when and woth what? How does power get from “Moldova and Romania ports” to Ukrainian without HT transformers and switchgear? Posted by: Johannes S. Herbst | Jan 26 2023 23:31 utc | 193 @karlof1 – you know your statement contradicts itself. Posted by: Buffalo_Ken | Jan 26 2023 23:36 utc | 194 Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 26 2023 23:29 utc | 194 Posted by: Sektion2Bs | Jan 26 2023 23:39 utc | 195 The latest Duran live stream discusses the “escalation escalator”… Posted by: CharlesLutherThanos | Jan 26 2023 23:39 utc | 196 re jgalt | Jan 26 2023 21:48 utc | 159 Posted by: Perimetr | Jan 26 2023 23:40 utc | 197 Has embarked on a new theft enterprise. The wholesale theft of Orthodox church funds. Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Jan 26 2023 23:44 utc | 198 @Norwegian #142 Posted by: OohCanada | Jan 26 2023 23:44 utc | 199 Killing Hitler in 1943 would have lengthened the war. Killing Churchill in late December 1941 could have led to a German defeat in 1944. Churchill and Hitler, like Zelensky, were military incompetents, whose interference in military decision making was often catastrophic. The enemy wants to keep these kind of people alive. Posted by: Technophobe | Jan 26 2023 23:52 utc | 200 |
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