aristodemos @191–
Quite correct about urban terrain, which is why I continue to opine Kiev will not be assaulted as there’s really no reason to do so. Terrian also presents a big problem in assaulting Odessa. We’ll know soon enough what Russia decides. I placed my bet already on an overall push all along the FEBA that aims to exploit the openings discovered.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 14 2023 4:21 utc | 204

Ed | Jan 14 2023 0:20 utc | 142
OohCanada @101 “…can you say, ‘the Maidan Coup?’ I knew you could.”
Mr Roger’s Neighborhood 🙂 Quite appropos for pre-kindergarten.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jan 14 2023 4:23 utc | 206

@ Susan | Jan 13 2023 16:05 utc |
susan.. thanks so much.. that is such a bang up great article from germany, i have to repost it for those who skipped over, or missed it..
ERICH VAD: WAS SIND DIE KRIEGSZIELE?
you’ll have to use a translator, but it is well worth your time to do so..

Posted by: james | Jan 14 2023 4:35 utc | 208

Posted by: Ed | Jan 14 2023 0:20 utc | 142
As a Canadian, I concur with your comment
Wish I could leave, but duty/family calls, so I remain to fight for them…

Posted by: xLemming | Jan 14 2023 4:52 utc | 210

I think I’ve mentioned before that at my work place, they use Bing for their browser so when I go to look something up, there is a running rotation of stories off to the left side. When the “news” stories deal with the war in Ukraine, the pattern never changes; “the Ukies are winning and the Russians are failing”. Its been this way almost from the beginning. Here’s an example today. Wagner used “human wave” attacks to over come the AFU in Soledar. Wow, it must be seriously good coin to risk a 30% or more change of being killed or wounded. But wait, these guys are all ex-cons so they probably have no choice but to do “human wave” attacks. Almost pure projection but the sheeple eat it up, if they even notice it at all by now.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-mercenaries-human-wave-tactics-push-back-ukrainian-troops-in-soledar/ar-AA16jcBC?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=87322baa0f9b4b1095feda6fee4a634b

Posted by: DakotaRog | Jan 14 2023 4:58 utc | 212

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ War Map and the Situation at the Fronts on the Evening of 13 Jan2023; pub. 0:05⚡️
🏵 The disputes over the control of #Soledar are over – the Ministry of Defence has announced that the town is under our control. Only the involvement of Wagner PMC units appeared outside the department’s daily summary, which provoked a great deal of criticism from experts and the public. But eventually the mistake was corrected and the direct involvement of the “orchestrator” assault groups in the capture of the city was officially acknowledged. In any case, although #Soledar is ours, the main thing is not to stop!
⚔️The Situation on the Fronts over the past Day
♦️#Svatovo – #Kremennaya Direction:
Russian artillery has worked on militant positions in the districts of #Krakhmalnoye and #Berestovoye in #Kharkov region. Also, artillery of Pskov paratroopers covered units of two AFU brigades in the #Grigorovka and #Serebryanka areas of the DPR.
♦️#Soldar Direction:
According to war correspondents, the Russian army began (https://t.me/readovkanews/50643) to liberate #Razdolovka north of #Soledar. Also today, assault action continued near #Sol station (a depot was taken under control), fighting for #Paraskovievka and Krasnaya Gora. Ours attacked the enemy in both directions from Soledar – both towards #Artyomovsk and #Seversk, expanding the bridgehead.
♦️#Artyomovsk (#Bakhmut) Direction:
There is still fighting for Kleshchiyevka. There is street fighting in the southeastern quarters and in the industrial zone. Also the capture of #Opytnoye has had a strong impact on the onslaught of our troops. There are battles for #Paraskovievka and Krasnaya Gora. At this point it is too early to talk about operational encirclement of the city.
💥 Two Grad MLRS and Uragan MLRS have been discovered and destroyed in the areas of Krasny #Liman and #Seversk by the DPR.
💡The beginning of the special operation was remembered first and foremost for the daring actions of the Russian army – from the landing in #Gostomel to the “cavalry” dash to #Kherson. But later such desperate raids led to our withdrawal. By 2023, both sides had changed dramatically, so February 2022 was definitely not going to happen. So a revision of tactics is necessary. Which way? In our story.

https://t.me/sitreports/3306

Posted by: Down South | Jan 14 2023 5:03 utc | 214

What’s the status with accessing SCF barflies; still troubles?
Please reply if you do and I’ll post it here on some dead thread while posting its URL for easy access
Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 14 2023 3:04 utc | 175
SCF still being blocked here in northern Norway, for me at least.
Just the URL is OK tho’ as I still use the work-around that S provided some months ago to get the text.
A renewal of my thanks here, too.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 14 2023 5:10 utc | 216

A certain fighter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Petr “Stone” Voloshchenko on the air of the national TV channel said that the Wagner had fallen into a trap in Soledar.
“…they enter the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, take pictures and then die”
There is no mournful limit to the perfection of Ukrainian propaganda. Convulsive and compulsive lies accompany every advance of the Russian troops, which cannot but rejoice: more and more people are gradually realizing that the Kyiv authorities are sending them, and their relatives and friends, into a meat grinder.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/28757

◾In the latest effort of the Ukrainan propaganda to cover up their total defeat in Soledar, a video from two Wagner soldiers was poorly over voiced to make them say that Soledar wasn’t liberated and they had serious casualties.
◾The fake was rapidly exposed and not even the Ukrainian public bought it for a second. Here are the fake and the original videos subtitled.

https://t.me/azmilitary11/33514

Posted by: Down South | Jan 14 2023 5:18 utc | 218

Slavyangrad on the change of the SMO structure

Implications
From my point of view, we need to consider three implications of this change in the structure.
1. General Gerasimov is the overall chief of the Russian Armed Forces. Not only these, committed to Ukraine, but also for the rest of the world. So, logically, he won’t be “physically” able, to command the SMO in detail on his own. He has a nominal job, to consolidate all competences needed, in one person. For example, the competence to command the Belarussian army, but also political, industrial and logistical issues within and outside of the Russian army.
2. Since he will most likely have a more representative (giving competence to the SMO) role, I think we should focus more, going forward, on General Kim. He is his deputy and most likely he will do the “work” behind the SMO staff. Yes, there are three deputies, but he is also the deputy of the General Staff. Thereby the highest-ranking officer of the three. Even if not nominal or publicly, but I can imagine that he will do the most planning work going forward, whereas the other two will be tasked with execution.
3. If General Surovikin is not the main responsible General and not more tasked with the overall coordination of the forces etc. but only has the task of commanding the aerospace forces, then we can assume that we will see far more action of the Russian Air
Force, then before.
Strategic planning
Basics
In the following I will try to point out my predictions, how the Russian strategic planning could potentially look like. Of course, we need to keep in mind that these are ONLY ASSUMPTIONS. It could turn out totally different as well.
Well, as I wrote in most of my analysis, the Russian goal is to trigger a collapse of Ukrainian logistics, manpower supply and thereby of the armed resistance. Keep in mind. The goal is the collapse. Not to conquer every single village throughout Ukraine with frontal assaults.
Due to the gift, that Ukraine is making Russia, to not only fighting to defend every inch in Donbass, but also trying to recapture territories, Russia can fulfill its task on a huge degree solely in the eastern regions.
The Ukrainian manpower reserves are not unlimited and they are slowly but steadily reaching their end. By forcing the enemy to fight in the Donbass, Russia makes sure, that the enemy manpower gets drawn out of all the other important big cities. Like Kharkov, Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Nikolayev, Kherson, Odessa etc. etc.
In turn, this means, that there is a high probability, that the Russians won’t need to fight in these cities as soon as the Ukrainian army collapses.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/28783

Posted by: Down South | Jan 14 2023 5:31 utc | 220

Theatre 1: Artemovsk-Soledar-Seversk
Hence, Surovikin’s withdrawals, evening-out of the frontlines and the creation of a perfect firebag to destroy the enemy manpower. Artemovsk (Bakhmut). It is the most unfavourable place for Ukraine to fight. And still, Ukraine tries to defend it with everything it has, for political reasons. Otherwise, the Western public support break.
Russia has short supply lines, air superiority, a friendly population and favourable positions for shelling there. One could say that the Ukrainian army is being buried in Artemovsk. There are already tens of thousands of dead and perhaps the double number of wounded. One needs to keep in mind that wounded soldiers are an even larger burden to a nation then the dead, during the time of war.
From my point of view, and as described in former analysis, Russia could have taken Artemovsk before. But there is a certain time, when it needs to be taken, to keep the stone rolling. The Russian reserves are being currently prepared for the offensive. Artemovsk mustn’t fall, before they are ready. Moreover, Artemovsk needs to kill as many Ukrainian soldiers as possible before the offensive starts.
Which means in turn, that it doesn’t make any sense to take it, as long as the enemy is able to feed in troops. When the enemy starts having problems to feed in further troops, by drawing them from other important frontlines, then Ukraine is ready for the other offensive operations.
So, the requirements, that are needed to trigger the storming of Artemovsk are:
1. Waiting for the stream pushed in troops to end.
2. The other offensive formations of the Russian army need to be in place.
I assume this moment could be reached in February. When exactly? I don’t know. We will see.
Theatre 2: Izyum-Slovyansk-Kramatorsk
As soon as these offensive starts, I assume, that the Ukrainian defences will start to collapse, since most Ukrainian troops will be already dead or wounded. At this point the Russian army will most likely move in from Kupiansk to Izyum from the north and occupy favourable positions north and maybe even west of Kramatorsk and Slovyansk.
Depending on the state of resistance of the Ukrainian army there will either be a direct storming from the Artemovsk and Slovyansk grouping of Slovyansk and Kramatorsk or there will be a siege. There is no need to sacrifice troops for quick wins, since there will be more fronts, to trigger the Ukrainian collapse.
Theatre 3
Maybe simultaneously there will be a push to Ugledar and the surrounding villages from the south, to put additional pressure on the Ukrainian supply lines. Both, in material and people.
Theatre 4
As you see in my map, the theater “4” is a pretty long one.
For the time being, as I write this article, I don’t see any physical possibility, to conduct any large-scale offensive from Belarus into Ukraine. There are neither enough equipment nor the needed logistics in place. So, big arrows from Belarus are currently physically impossible.
What I assume indeed, is the following. We will see locally, not everywhere where I put a number 4 on it, but at certain places (I don’t know where) small incursions, to pin and bind the enemy at the close proximity of the border. To engage as many as possible troops, equipment and logistical effort in the north. At the same time, I assume, that we could start experiencing the start of a Russian air campaign on targets across the northern border of Ukraine.
Since most air defences are currently concentrated around the critical infrastructure or already depleted, we will most likely see the new role of General Surovikin. Hammering and degrading Ukrainian resources in the north. And Ukraine will need to replace them constantly, to not open the door to Kiev.
At the same time, we could maybe see the accumulation of troops and equipment in Belarus.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/28784

Posted by: Down South | Jan 14 2023 5:34 utc | 222

This could go on maybe until the start of the summer 2023.
Here we have the same situation as in Artemovsk. As soon as the supply of troops and equipment starts ebbing down in the north, Russia can assume, that the time can be right to secure Kiev.
Requirements for a move on Kiev:
Complete collapse of the Donbass front.
Complete Collapse of the northern front.
Depending on how the political situation will be then, we could see here already a full surrender or only the moving in of Russian troops to a close proximity of Kiev. Maybe even already the start of the surrounding of Kiev.
Theatre 5
Either simultaneously with Theatre 4 or after the moving on Kiev (surrounding or prepositioning north, west and east of Kiev), we could see the opening of a fifth frontline in the south. The target would be to reach Zaporozhye city. Again, with the goal, to overstretch the Ukrainian resources and logistics.
Again, I’m sure, Russia’s goal is to trigger a collapse, to not being forced to fight for every village up to Lvov.
After these five “phases” or theaters, I assume, that we will see the collapse of Ukraine. Which will either result in a surrender, or we could simply see a drive-through of Russian forces to their desired future borders by bypassing last resistance nests. Which will need to surrender anyways after a certain time, when they get encircled far behind NATO borders.
By applying this strategy, Russia can inflict maximum damage to the Ukrainian army while sparing the own soldiers lives and the Ukrainian civilian infrastructure of big Russian cities (Odessa etc.). Which the ultimate Russian goal is.
Depending on the degree of resistance and Western escalation, we could see a surrender of Kiev the earliest in Summer 2023. The latest? This is impossible to say. If Russia needs to drive through Ukraine, encircling big cities and force them without violence to surrender, this could drag on for another two years. How knows?
And of course, there is still the question of manpower. As in my analysis of phase 3 described, Russia would need to mobilise further troops, if being forced to take Ukraine without their surrender. Not for the fighting itself, but simply for occupation and securing rear areas (counter insurgency etc.), of this large country.
Arms deliveries and Scorched Earth
There are ever more reports of deliveries of tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, as well as artillery to Ukraine by NATO. Of course, there are.
Of course, we will go through all escalation steps in terms of arms deliveries, until this war concludes.
The West is following a strategy of scorched earth in Ukraine. It is absolutely clear to everyone, that it is only a question of time, when Ukraine will fall as a whole. All are aware that this will most likely happen this year. So, the task is, to inflict as much comprehensive and sustainable damage to Russia as possible during the process. With a huge success of course. See my article about that here.
Ukraine, or the biggest parts of it, will be part of Russia again. Some parts might go to Poland, Hungary and Romania by agreement with Russia. And some part will maybe be released into pseudo independence after being denazifyed and demilitarised. But in fact, Russia is killing currently “en mass” its future citizens and the base for further development. Of course, the Ukrainian soldiers of today will be Russian soldiers of tomorrow, as well. And as more infrastructure is damaged as more Russia will need to invest to rebuild. At least in parts, that will go to Russia.
Therefore, it needs to be ensured, by NATO, that the whole male able-bodied potential will be used, to fight Russia. In the best case everyone dies. Remember, these are future Russian citizens and soldiers. That’s why the West will never ever negotiate an end. Russia by the way won’t do it as well, since all of Ukraine will be captured, denazifyed and demilitarised. Except maybe the parts, that will go to other states under a mutual agreement.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/28785

Posted by: Down South | Jan 14 2023 5:36 utc | 224

karlof1@175,01/14/23/3:04 thank you for linking SC for all those months past. i, as you know, live in victoria bc, & can now & for some months have been able to once again access SC. it seems to me, bt james may recall exactly when, that when the vax restrictions lifted so SC also seemed once again accessible, however, it may just as likely be that chrystia has been so taken with her war effort to have forgotten ehert’s essays on her past & chilling hatred & war lust. again, thank you.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Jan 14 2023 5:44 utc | 226

I try to talk to family and friends but they live in a shallow world of propaganda.,
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 14 2023 5:35 utc | 220
It’s hard to catergorize or separate things in interactions with friends and family as politics is
a component of every topic. It’s a constant battle but you just have to accept that others choose
not to do much in the way of analysis and go to the Moon (of Alabama) for R&R.
I know you know that and I’m glad you come here with your views and info. G’day, mate.
@ Susan | Jan 13 2023 16:05 utc | & james | Jan 14 2023 4:35 utc | 205
Thanks for the ERICH VAD piece. Good with the morning coffee.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 14 2023 6:02 utc | 228

Posted by: Bill Smith | Jan 14 2023 2:09 utc | 165
The price cap won’t work because the US and vassals do not have monopsony power. It will only cause a self-imposed restriction in supply, which of course will lead to higher prices. Economics 101.

Posted by: One Too Many | Jan 14 2023 6:48 utc | 230

How do Sean Penn and his like visit Kiev without breaching Logan Act ?

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jan 14 2023 6:59 utc | 232

Apology for all bold.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 14 2023 7:00 utc | 234

This war will end when we run out of money.

Posted by: Passerby | Jan 14 2023 7:24 utc | 236

Barflies,
NATO has a very long view here. It’s prepared to keep the War hot for years. My guess, we’ll see escalation and more escalation until at least 2025.
Also realize the Ukrainian civil war is really just a sideshow in the Global War we are now in.
The various color revolutions and coups happening now in South America, Iran, Africa, and the Stan’s , and elsewhere all seem to be NATO sculpting-the-battlefield. NATO needs to flip as many neutrals as possible as soon as possible. That’s a big NATO effort to watch over the next 9 months.
Finally – Eurasia only prevails if De-Dollarization accelerates dramatically. The pace of De-Dollarization is the single critical variable of the Global War. It’s difficult to get solid data on the pace of De-Dollarization, but that’s what barflies should focus their efforts on.
This Global War will go on far longer than we can imagine. We are barely in the first inning.

Posted by: Exile | Jan 14 2023 8:46 utc | 238

Posted by: Susan | Jan 13 2023 16:05 utc | 19
In an interview with CNN US Chief of Staff General Mark Milley says Ukraine won’t win the war, that negotiations are the only way out.
And a few days later, in an interview with a German feminist magazine, retired German General Erich Vad says exactly the same thing. What a coincidence.

Posted by: Passerby | Jan 14 2023 9:01 utc | 240

Ukraine has turned into a private military company owned by NATO, which is paid money, given weapons and told where to shoot. This was stated by the Permanent Representative of Russia to the UN Vasily Nebenzia at a meeting of the Security Council of the world organization.
According to him, “the Kiev regime, contrary to facts and common sense, has formed the illusion that with increasing direct military assistance from NATO, it will be able to defeat Russia on the battlefield.” “As a result, Ukraine, in fact, turned into a NATO PMCs. They pay her money, supply her with weapons and intelligence, tell her where to shoot and where to attack. The Ukrainian people suffer from this, who are forced to fight for the sake of other people’s tasks,” the diplomat said.
The special military operation in Ukraine will end only when its goals are achieved, whether through negotiations or military means, Vasily Nebenzia said.
“It will be possible to finish its work only when there will no longer be a threat to Russia from the territory of Ukraine and there will be no discrimination for the Russian-speaking population of this country. If this result can be achieved through negotiations, then we are ready for such a scenario. If not, then all the tasks set will be achieved by military means. So far, neither the Kiev regime nor its Western sponsors have drawn the necessary conclusions from the Ukrainian events,” the Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the World Organization said at a meeting of the UN Security Council on Ukraine.
https://t.me/azmilitary11/33516

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 14 2023 9:15 utc | 242

Ramzan Akhmatovich believes that no more than 15 percent of the Western arms supplied to Ukraine will reach the air defense zone.
The head of Chechnya called Western aid to Ukraine a money-laundering scheme. Kadyrov stressed that he is convinced that he is right and believes that all the huge Western military supplies to Ukraine are only the result of a trivial money-laundering fraud scheme.
“I see that some people are watching because of foreign aid in Ukraine. Don’t worry! This is a working money laundering scheme. Ukraine’s Western officials and no more than 15% of the total support reaches the trenches.”
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/28467

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 14 2023 9:20 utc | 244

Passerby @ 233

This war will end when we run out of money

By the magic conjuring of the banking priesthood there is always money for war. Look at WW2 all the participants started out bankrupt, but somehow from somewhere from a place mystical and secret and obscured from the unwashed, the money appeared, oceans of it. After the war, of course the doom of debilitating debt? No, actually a boom ensued with an even vaster ocean of money available.
Money is created to fill a need, simple as that, the needs of aristocrats, criminals, murders, pillagers, plunders and warmongers take precedence – whether in peace time or in war.
Give every school kid in Africa a tablet, free satellite access, and thousands of generators? Where would the money possibly come from? Give every Ukrainian a Starlink tablet, free access, and portable generators? We can start delivery tomorrow.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 14 2023 9:45 utc | 246

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 14 2023 8:51 utc | 236
Yeah thanks, I just get a warning from Telenor and no option other than to go back to previous page. I get Sputnik & RT jes fine.
I’m a bit tech challenged and could probably figure out how to do things but like Edward Abbey once said:
“As a confirmed melancholic I can attest that the only cure for it is action. Unfortunately I am also aflicted with sloth(laziness)”.
However, my laptop crashed and in searching for help I found a computer nerd/expert and will be getting a replacement
this coming week that will include a VPN. Also expecting to get some good tips on other new fangled techie stuff.
God helg.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 14 2023 10:00 utc | 248

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 14 2023 4:21 utc | 201
Terrain is only important if there is someone left alive to defend that terrain… Also, Russia can operate over any terrain effectively, in particular because they have the stand-off weapons that can attack from a distance beyond where the Ukrainians can defend. So it becomes another form of attrition warfare, at which the Russians will always have the advantage.
– RSH

Posted by: CharlesLutherThanos | Jan 14 2023 10:15 utc | 250

Ukrainian sources report that Kramatorsk receives a huge number of dead from the Artyomovsk and Soledar directions every day, the bulk of the dead are from 18 to 23 years old. They are brought side by side by army trucks.
https://t.me/loordofwar/72868

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 14 2023 10:49 utc | 252

ERICH VAD: WAS SIND DIE KRIEGSZIELE?
you’ll have to use a translator, but it is well worth your time to do so..
Posted by: james | Jan 14 2023 4:35 utc | 205
I couldn’t make it to the end of the interview. I’ve seen my fair share of pseudo-critics and controlled opposition. Even more so in Germany, where it’s the status quo for the pseudo-critics to play stupid and claim the elite has no plan. It doesn’t matter whether those “critics” criticize the response to the financial crisis, the climate crisis, the migration crisis or the Ukrainian crisis. The claim basically goes that the elite has no plan and does stupid things because they don’t know any better. And no one dares to say they the elite knows exactly what they are doing and are acting not out of cluelessness but out of plain human evil and everything is going according to plan.
Even more so a general knows battle plans must stay secret so everyone should believe you have no plan.

Posted by: Vikichka | Jan 14 2023 11:14 utc | 254

klutch kargo 44 – no idea about Covid ‘vaccines’ sorry
Thanks to Mary 58 and Peter 65

Posted by: Rob Campbell | Jan 14 2023 11:20 utc | 256

Posted by: bottle | Jan 14 2023 11:19 utc | 251
i don’t think Russia wants to nuke Germany and Japan. those are just poodles anyway.i don’t know what the US would do, the neocons already seem eager and confident of victory in a nuclear war.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 14 2023 11:33 utc | 258

i don’t think Russia wants to nuke Germany and Japan. those are just poodles anyway.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 14 2023 11:33 utc | 254
Why in the world would Russia even want to nuke the biggest US base in Europe and all the US nukes hosted in that country, right?

Posted by: Vikichka | Jan 14 2023 11:42 utc | 260

Bill Smith | Jan 14 2023 2:09 utc | 165
Brent is running at nearly 85$ 84.3 WTI 78.8. USA has just limited selling from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to China so they will probably buy more Russian. Russia is discount selling at about 70$ last time i looked.

Posted by: olaf22 | Jan 14 2023 11:49 utc | 262

Melaleuca | Jan 14 2023 1:12 utc | 152
‘appalling health stats of Ukraine.’
I did note in feb 2022 that the deaths in Ukraine due to covid were about 300 per day, plus the ‘normal’ death rate from smoking alcohol etc. I was surprised at how few ‘mass’ burials were being found!
So i tallied up and there were 500,000 reported covid deaths in the eastern bloc countries up to feb 2022. Many were due to lack of vaccines (misinformation?) and lack of healthcare. The NATO 2021 exercises (which Russia protested about at the time for reasons of pandemic) would have made matters worse.
500,000 deaths that the outside world did not think worth talking about. probably double that by now.

Posted by: olaf22 | Jan 14 2023 11:54 utc | 264

RSH / CharlesLutherThanos | Jan 14 2023 10:38 utc | 247
unimperator | Jan 14 2023 10:49 utc | 248
The telegrams are showing a high number of cadavers from a seemingly wide battlefront.
Surely if these images make there way to Ukraine families… there’ll be resistance to further futility.
Starting to see young women in uniform deceased. Seems they weren’t there for tictoc likes, but were actually fighting.
Slave Ukraina to the absolute very last Ukrainian.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 14 2023 12:02 utc | 266

Ukroid mice to the slaughter. https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1614020010053193755
Dying defending their right to kill Russians on behalf of the anglo world.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 14 2023 12:08 utc | 268

Don Bacon | Jan 14 2023 4:20 utc | 200
I always liked the Artillery slogan “Artillery adds Carnage to what otherwise would be a vulgar brawl.”
Posted by: John Kennard | Jan 14 2023 4:37 utc | 206
I think my modification may be more appropriate given the reality of artillery.

Posted by: jpc | Jan 14 2023 12:33 utc | 270

Posted by: olaf22 | Jan 14 2023 11:54 utc | 261
MacGregor says TB is apparently rampant in Ukraine.
Soldiers being treated in Germany.
https://www.aerzteblatt.de/nachrichten/136464/Mediziner-Behandlung-ukrainischer-Soldaten-ist-Herausforderung
https://www.diakonie.de/pressemeldungen/kostenfreie-medizinische-behandlungsplaetze-fuer-ukrainische-kriegsverletzte
appear to suffer from drug-resistant infections (maybe acquired from US Biolabs ?)
https://www.aachener-zeitung.de/nrw-region/warum-die-verletzten-soldaten-schnell-zurueck-an-die-front-wollen_aid-72588825
https://www.aachener-zeitung.de/politik/ukrainische-soldaten-werden-auch-in-aachen-geschult_aid-69468233
https://www.br.de/nachrichten/bayern/ukrainische-verwundete-in-deutschland-der-krieg-im-op,TR6lPbw
Über 500 Verwundete in deutschen Kliniken
Der ukrainische Soldat in der Uniklinik Regensburg ist kein Einzelfall. Über 500 ukrainische Patienten sollen seit dem Sommer nach Deutschland verlegt worden sein. Wie viele davon Verwundete sind, ließe sich nicht beziffern, so das Bundesgesundheitsministerium auf eine erste BR-Anfrage.
Für Krankenhäuser wie die Universitätsklinik Regensburg war zudem lange unklar, wer die Kosten für die Behandlung der Verwundeten übernimmt.

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jan 14 2023 12:42 utc | 272

https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/GesundAZ/F/Flucht/Merkblatt_Screening_MRE.html
https://www.bundeswehr.de/de/aktuelles/meldungen/ukrainischer-patient-5090438. [2021]
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/kampf-gegen-multiresistente-keime-4094575.html [2019]
Already in 2019 Ukrainian soldiers were being treated in German Military Clinics in Berlin

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jan 14 2023 12:48 utc | 274

@Peter AU1 #154–155:

Two goups or are they part of the same group?

Oh, I see. The group in your link is Presidential Council for Civil Society and Human Rights, commonly known as the Council for Human Rights. Aleksandr Kots is indeed a member of that council. Here’s the list of its members: Board and Members of the Council. The council was established in 2004 and concerns itself with typical human rights advocacy. As a member of that council, Kots is supposed to raise issues such as unfair or unfairly harsh punishment of soldiers, various abuses (such as nonpayment of salaries, which he did mention), and the like.
The working group established on December 20, 2022 and which includes A. Medvedev, Pegov, Poddubnyy, Sladkov and Zvinchuk is dedicated specifically to the issues of mobilization, proper training of the mobilized, protection of their rights during the conduct of the SMO, which necessarily involves issues of proper supply of various resources, proper command, etc. So, yeah, it’s the job of these people to find problems and be vocal about them. (And there are lots of problems, even though we’re already in the 11th month of the SMO; many people here are looking at the Russian military through rose-tinted glasses.)

Posted by: S | Jan 14 2023 13:07 utc | 276

MacGregor says TB is apparently rampant in Ukraine.
Soldiers being treated in Germany. appear to suffer from drug-resistant infections (maybe acquired from US Biolabs ?
I watched footage of an attempt by a Russian soldier to talk Ukie soldiers in a fire pit into surrendering. The Russian enfiladed them from their rear. Obviously confused, they refuse to surrender, though nearly comatose from hypothermia.
He has to kill them.
Russian interdiction of Ukie electric grid… basically brought Ukie transport to near stoppage… definitely reduced flow of ammo, fuel & food to below minimums…
In consequence, Ukie troops… sitting in trenches in the cold… have insufficient calorie intake to stave off hypothermia… which degrades their combat abilities…
While….
Say what you may… Progozhin takes care of his men… rotates them… ensures they have what they need… so their combat proficiency is tops…
Which is why the offensive in Soledar… and elsewhere… are finally cracking the Ukie nut..
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Jan 14 2023 13:22 utc | 278

@ Passerby | Jan 14 2023 9:01 utc | 237:
As such the way of thinking highly critical of the western role in Ukraine (here espec. referring to the interview with E. Vad & his considerations therein) is all but new, since together with him (also including the former leading officer H. Kujat) there had been quite a few high (former) officers to oppose the western strategy of escalating in Ukraine from the very start. Therefore the found coincidence between the named events IMHO is not so striking. Far more striking for me is, that so many / the most of reasonable high-ranked guys have been standing back, keeping their traps shut & only watching the lunacy to approach further.
But hopefully now the time has come that reasonable factions of military brass’ opinions and their bearers with knowledge of the matter at stake – instead of silly ideas – will gain momentum. At #253 you may find a link to a further critical voice by a professor of the German Forces University, naming things some MSM presumably would reintroduce pyres for – if they could.

Posted by: Yogi | Jan 14 2023 13:41 utc | 280

Currently happening

⚡️🇺🇦 More than 80 missiles reported over several Ukrainian regions
Adviser to Ukrainian Presidential Office Arestovich says Russian missile raids are MASSIVE.

https://t.me/IntelRepublic/12030

Posted by: Down South | Jan 14 2023 13:49 utc | 282

jr:
🔥Explosions in Nikolayev Oblast
💥 Explosion reported in Odessa
💥 Explosions in Odessa (Suburbs)
⚡️Two explosions near Ilyichevsk (Odessa
region)
⚡️Rockets are flying over the Odessa region, explosions are heard between the Ovidiopol district and Ilyichevsk
⚡️Report about missiles flying towards Kyiv and Vinnitsa
Kiev now
💥More explosions Odessa
🇷🇺🚀🇺🇦”Kalibr” over the Kherson region , minutes ago
A lot of missile flight reports coming in from different directions and regions
💥Explosions in the Vinnitsa region.
💥Ammunition depots caught the missiles in the suburbs of Odessa
💥Kramatorsk missile strikes
💥Nikolaev region, series of explosions
🇷🇺🚀🇺🇦”At least 10 missiles towards Kiev.
💥Repeated explosions Vinnitsa
🇷🇺🚀💥🇺🇦 Rockets on the way to West Ukraine – Ukraine media
💥Khmelnitsky region
💥Explosion in Kryvyi Rih
💥Explosions, Dnepropetrovsk region
💥Krivoy Rog powerful explosion
❗️More than 80 rockets in the sky over Ukraine
The launches were from aviation, land and sea. Now the missiles are mainly flying over Western Ukraine.
💥 Chernovtsi region explosions
💥 Arrival, Kiev Central Station
💥 Explosions in Kharkiv
💥 Kiev region explosions
💥 Finally Lviv region explosions
And
💥Explosions in Ivano-Frankivsk and Ternopil region
Everyone is here, now I can go 🤗

Posted by: missile strikes | Jan 14 2023 13:57 utc | 284

From the Ukraine telegram channel ‘Legitimate’
Legitimate
#Rumors
So, according to our data, the arrivals of Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa, Vinnytsia, Kiev, Mykolaiv, Lviv regions.
There are no downed missiles yet due to the fact that the Russian Armed Forces launched false targets, followed immediately by combat air defense installations. After the first arrivals, the APU saw through the chip and began to wind down the air defense system, removing it to other positions.
Situationally finding yourself without “eyes”.
…………..
That old term about making ones own bed comes to mind. As per the video oldhippy linked in a previous thread, the Ukroids are now sleeping in it. The joys of being a tool of empire.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 14 2023 14:18 utc | 286

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 14 2023 14:18 utc | 284
I am curious what a “false target” is. Somebody in a previous thread claimed that they are missiles without warheads- but what is the point of that? Surely the warhead is the cheapest part of the missile, and it would be more effective to just launch more missiles instead of fake ones that cost almost as much.

Posted by: catdog | Jan 14 2023 14:25 utc | 288

One way Russia may have an advantage is in IT software, with a long history of being khalyava (free -as it is in many places- depending on whom you know).
Russia is now legalising patent theft from anyone affiliated with countries ‘unfriendly’ to it. Removal of intellectual property protections during wartime is not without precedent. The German company Bayer lost its American patent on aspirin as the US government seized property from firms associated with its enemies.
USA is hampered by its patent trolling problem ($30 bn a year lost), and general patent hoarding which slows development eg in medicine, and prohibits small businesses. Presumably this affects other industries.
Massive State owned industries have their problems of cumbersome logistics but possibly are more flexible in other ways and can develop rapidly. Back in 2016 Russia made small business a priority- ‘Small businesses can and should be an important factor in diversifying the economy. We have established the Corporation for Supporting Small- and Medium-sized Businesses’ (Dmitry Medvedev).
makes me wonder-how did usa get the name ‘leader of the free world?!

Posted by: olaf22 | Jan 14 2023 14:30 utc | 290

How do Sean Penn and his like visit Kiev without breaching Logan Act ?
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jan 14 2023 6:59 utc | 229

The Logan Act only applies if the US is in dispute with the country in question.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

…like Dennis Rodman visiting the leader of North Korea 😉
No one has ever been prosecuted under the Logan Act. Because as we know, Americans always respect the rule of law 😉

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 14 2023 14:44 utc | 292

@Ed #142
Open discussion is not hate.
2014 Russia stole 50% of the azov sea, 70%of Ukraine’s coastline and the majority of it’s most valuable real estae.
A treaty was signed to stop the Russians from taking all of Ukraine. Pretending poor Russia is some sort of innocent baby in this cluster##@@ is not accurate.

Posted by: OohCanada | Jan 14 2023 14:49 utc | 294

@150 “the Germans during the Second World War, with the help of HCN, made the Zyklon-B poison, which was used to kill the prisoners of concentration camps …” stop lying! Holohoax denial is a crime in Russia as well as other eurotrash nations- but not in the USA (yet). Zyklon -B was used to de-louse the filthy and often sick jews sent to the camps. The lie of the gas chambers continues to live on with brainwashed (by jews controlling our Western nations)goys who are doing their work for them.
Russia is NOT our friend- yet I am glad to see them protecting their nation from the aggression of the satanic cult of jews ruling the West. But they must have some large contingent of jews to deal with as well to hang onto the lie of the holyhoax.
Perhaps they will gift the “Pale” back to isra-hell?

Posted by: old coyote | Jan 14 2023 15:07 utc | 296

Bagradian | Jan 13 2023 20:53 utc | 82
If, after all that has happened, the West expects Putin to trust their agreements, they are naive; if Putin really trusts their agreements, he is naive.

Posted by: Old Brown Fool | Jan 14 2023 15:10 utc | 298

* It’s now #165.

Posted by: S | Jan 14 2023 15:11 utc | 300