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January 6, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-05
Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict. The current open thread for other issues is here. Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. Do not attack other commentators.
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Abe | Jan 7 2023 14:10 utc | 192 Posted by: DoesItReallyMatter | Jan 7 2023 14:58 utc | 201 Norwegian deputy nominates NATO Secretary General for Nobel Peace Prize Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jan 7 2023 14:59 utc | 202 “…only a miracle could turn Russia into a (economic) superpower Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jan 7 2023 15:07 utc | 203 Norwegian deputy nominates NATO Secretary General for Nobel Peace Prize Posted by: Vikichka | Jan 7 2023 15:15 utc | 204 “We are fulfilling the NATO mission today” – Oleksiy Reznikov on TV Posted by: rk | Jan 7 2023 15:19 utc | 205 Posted by: fanto | Jan 7 2023 4:35 utc | 119 Posted by: Chris | Jan 7 2023 15:28 utc | 206 The imperial system is an oxymoron. The metric system is Vulcan. Water freezes at zero and boils at 100. A liter of water weighs 1 KG. How many lbs of water is a cubic foot? Posted by: steve | Jan 7 2023 15:31 utc | 207 Posted by: Phariah | Jan 7 2023 14:52 utc | 201 Posted by: Gabriel in Ireland | Jan 7 2023 15:31 utc | 208 “Russia will even lose supporters from the ROw if it doesn’t start winning battles with blood and fire. Noone in the RoW will help Russia as it is. Noone likes a loser, so if Russia wants allies who will stick their necks out for them one day, Moscow better start winning.” Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jan 7 2023 15:39 utc | 209 Related to Poland, Hungary and a few other Eastern European countries retaining their own currencies is the following scenario: Posted by: Chris | Jan 7 2023 15:47 utc | 210 To Steve at 208 Posted by: Oldengineer | Jan 7 2023 15:47 utc | 211 On the C scale each degree is one-one hundredth or 1%. Exactly 1%! Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 7 2023 15:57 utc | 212 Speaking of the metric system (and yes, this is off-topic), the original metric unit is the mile. Posted by: Contrarian_Ed | Jan 7 2023 16:07 utc | 213 Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jan 7 2023 15:39 utc | 210 Posted by: Brother Ma | Jan 7 2023 16:08 utc | 214 Well done, people: Fahrenheit v. Celsius/Centigrade as the OT discussion of the day. My suggestion for the next Ukraine thread: Vegemite v. Marmite. Posted by: B. Wildered | Jan 7 2023 16:19 utc | 215 They are currently trumpeting ‘Ukrainian advances in the Donbass’. Where could that be? Posted by: rk | Jan 7 2023 16:30 utc | 216 @ B. Wildered | Jan 7 2023 16:19 utc | 216
And Imperial vs Metric … IgNobel prizes & the rest … Posted by: Christian Chuba | Jan 6 2023 18:51 utc | 11 Posted by: Figleaf23 | Jan 7 2023 16:48 utc | 218 @218 Best bit of OT posting I’ve seen yet. Surprised someone didn’t call it trolling. Posted by: dh | Jan 7 2023 16:52 utc | 219
How about we adopt the Rankine scale, which uses the interval of Fahrenheit, but 0 for Absolute Zero. Where I am, it’s presently 499 degrees R. Posted by: David Levin | Jan 7 2023 16:58 utc | 220 I’m guessing at this point, temperature scales, regardless of measure, are like time blowing in the wind, a conundrum known only to humans…. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jan 7 2023 17:03 utc | 221
Celsius can use as many decimals as you need. For science, obviously metric units are superior. There are 3 common areas where Joe Public uses temperature; the weather, cooking and personal health. Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 7 2023 17:04 utc | 222 The fact remains that a side of a war that is reorganizing, reequiping, forming new units from the remains of old is not winning. Posted by: Lex | Jan 7 2023 17:04 utc | 223 “(I’m curious why he isn’t more prominent in French politics.)” Posted by: Likklemore | Jan 7 2023 17:12 utc | 224
That is the old Kilogram 😉 Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 7 2023 17:18 utc | 225 @ Likklemore | Jan 7 2023 17:12 utc | 225 Posted by: james | Jan 7 2023 17:19 utc | 226 figleaf23 @ 219 Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 7 2023 17:22 utc | 227 Lex | Jan 7 2023 17:04 utc | 224 Posted by: DoesItReallyMatter | Jan 7 2023 17:24 utc | 228 Thanks and a ‘tip of the hat’ to Uncle Tungsten for the reference to Weeb Union. I had seen the links to it on Ewe Toob but never watched before today when I saw his live show. He seemed to spend as much time screwing around with his system as anything else. I hope he tightens up the canned shows. I often have to jump ahead with the two Alexanders in order to find something of interest but they are still informative. I will add Weeb Union to the watch list. Posted by: Quid Me Vexare | Jan 7 2023 17:30 utc | 229 Wagner – “Just in the village of Bakhmut on Labor Reserves Street, the enemy used chemical weapons, as a result of which our fighters received chemical burns of the respiratory tract and mucous membranes. They were sent to the hospital in serious condition.” Posted by: rk | Jan 7 2023 17:31 utc | 230
Re: Posted by: David Levin | Jan 7 2023 16:58 utc | 221 Posted by: Julian | Jan 7 2023 17:36 utc | 232
US/NATO going to War whilst the SPR is … Re David F at 17 Posted by: KS Plainsman | Jan 7 2023 17:57 utc | 234 US/NATO going to War whilst the SPR is … Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 7 2023 17:59 utc | 235 Re: French, German, and American ‚tanks‘ Posted by: Exile | Jan 7 2023 18:01 utc | 236 @ Exile | Jan 7 2023 18:01 utc | 237
AP auto grenade launchers, RPGs, ATGMs, 30mm AP auto-cannons, sustained 14.5mm AP MGs, even WWII RF AntiTank rifles (mobility/sensor kills), Artillery/Rocket barrages, even heavy mortars … RuAF CAS along the FEBA with zero AFU Air Defense, myriad suicide/attack drones … all occurring in mostly close confined combat, or on the move, with insufficient ground recon & limited situ awareness, unsupported with AFU infantry routinely stripped away by direct/indirect fires ? Steve @208 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 7 2023 18:49 utc | 238 Outraged @234– Oppert knocks@223 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 7 2023 19:00 utc | 240 @ james 227. Posted by: Likklemore | Jan 7 2023 19:07 utc | 241 Exile@237 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 7 2023 19:11 utc | 242 When it comes to real life conditions, in a large land like the U.S., the kilometer gets trounced by a mile. Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 7 2023 19:14 utc | 243 @ karlof1 | Jan 7 2023 18:51 utc | 240 karlof1@240 Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 7 2023 19:25 utc | 245 @ Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 7 2023 19:00 utc | 241 Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 7 2023 19:29 utc | 246 In all the grand different temperature debate, I never saw anything about “wind chill effect” temperature. Maybe Euros and other non U.S. people don’t worry or talk about “wind chill effect” but out here in the middle of a continent with almost no tree cover or elevation differences at 40+ Latitude (sorry, I can’t convert to decimal degrees in my head and they don’t really give me any geographic context anyway except an specific coordinate), windchill is king in the winter time. There’s a whole bunch of difference between being cold and calm and cold with a serious wind. People here make a lot of decisions based on what the windchill temp is or is going to be for the day. Posted by: DakotaRog | Jan 7 2023 19:42 utc | 247 Posted by: Derek Henry | Jan 7 2023 2:07 utc | 98 Posted by: nothing but the trut | Jan 7 2023 20:13 utc | 248 @ Posted by: abrogard | Jan 7 2023 4:09 utc | 115 Posted by: MillerJ | Jan 7 2023 21:03 utc | 249 I simply said I perceived fear on the faces of both Gerasimov and Shoigu, but I could be wrong. Maybe I am not used to reading Russian “poker -faces” . Who knows? Posted by: TruthSeeker | Jan 6 2023 23:44 utc | 74 Posted by: nwwoods | Jan 10 2023 17:28 utc | 251 |
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