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January 6, 2023
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-05

Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict.

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I had originally thought that this would be a short war since the Russians had the firepower to end it quickly if they really wanted. But the Ukraine is just one battlefield in WWIII which has been going on for a decade or two — a world war to be sure — but one like no other in recorded history, since it is a war fought by proxies mostly and by non-military, economic means. “War”= conflict. Not all violence is gun violence, or even physical.
Russia is nation-building and establishing a new “world order”. A quick victory which would just end in the Empire starting another war somewhere else, where Russia would have less ability to influence events. Ukraine is the New Vietnam — for the US.

Posted by: julianmacfarlane | Jan 7 2023 2:26 utc | 101

Maybe I should take up video games and turn the world off.
Posted by: circumspect | Jan 6 2023 19:18 utc | 21

I am working on a multi-player VR game called “Madam President” in which each player picks one of:
– Corrupt Clinton
– Kackling Kamala
– Pocahontas Warren
– Goody 2-shoes Gabbard
and has to win the primary and face off against;
– DJT
– DeSantis
– Pompeo
– Rubio

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 7 2023 2:30 utc | 102

Likklemore #96
Thank you, sounds like treasure. I off with a coffee in hand to read.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2023 2:39 utc | 103

@ 94; Thanks for that posting, maybe someone will grab a clue reading historical fact. A concept many can’t grasp..

Posted by: vetinLA | Jan 7 2023 3:01 utc | 104

Merry Christmas!
(In solidarity with Russia I have personally derecognised the Unorthodox Christmas.)

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 7 2023 3:03 utc | 105

@TruthSeeker
Counterpunch has become as irrelevant since cockburns more talented partner whom could see over partlines died and the dems became the pro pharmaceutical pro war party fyi

Posted by: NJH | Jan 7 2023 3:06 utc | 106

Posted by s @3
Never did like the term neo nazi when referring to this Ukrainian mob and as they are racist Nazis will do just fine.

Posted by: Inki | Jan 7 2023 3:07 utc | 107

Likklemore #101
Thanks again and barflies there are many reports at this english language site that warrant it being a daily or weekly visit:
https://vpk.name/en/
The DeGaul report was fascinating and he was mighty careful to only single out Macron for a pasting. Four more years of having to put up with this preposterous fool.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2023 3:16 utc | 108

@Juliana
Posting as I think it’ll be of interest to you.

Church of Kiev-Pechersk on New Year’s Eve, the faithful came to say goodbye to their Church.
The priests & the faithful are no longer allowed to enter. Particularly painful as Orthodox Christmas is an important day for millions

https://twitter.com/e_l_g_c_a/status/1611243198587850754

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 7 2023 3:31 utc | 109

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2023 3:16 utc | 105 & 110
you are very welcome.
Grandson Pierre is a statesman, unfortunately one of the few to be found in this era.
Let me remind, in 1966 it was the late Charles deGaulle who took France out of NATO’s integrated military command.
One of the several money quotes in Pierre’s interview:
“I believe that it is in France’s interests to continue this policy and maintain a balance between East and West in our policy, because this is essential for stability in Europe. I think that public opinion in France is beginning to understand what the malicious game of the Americans is today. Using lies primarily when communicating with allies within NATO, the United States managed to use the Ukrainian crisis to destabilize Europe.”
Should public opinion in France become a tsunami wave against the malicious game of the Americans others will follow in line. NATO shatters and the Rothschild stooge will be hog tied.

Posted by: Likklemore | Jan 7 2023 3:37 utc | 110

Posted by: Derek Henry | Jan 7 2023 2:07 utc | 99
It really is an amazing trick the EU played on Eastern Europe. Give up your currency, your sovereignty and autonomy as a nation … in exchange for promises of comfort and materialism.
The Devil himself would be envious. That is, unless he is already directly involved!

Posted by: Chris | Jan 7 2023 3:38 utc | 111

There’s no such thing as tax payers money. It is all state money it is written in very simple English on every dollar you have received since the day you were born. Go to the coin section in every museum in the world, not a tax payers coin in sight. It is written on the thousands of coins in the museums where they came from.
Posted by: Derek Henry | Jan 7 2023 2:07 utc | 99

Totally off topic but what the hell.
I agree that money is a monopoly product of the government and that taxation is their price for letting us use it. Inflation is the additional price for not using it fast enough. The government licensed banking cartel does the heavy lifting for them and collects interest/fees for the intermediary services provided.
The difference between now and antiquity is that most “money” is now 0-s and 1-s in a digital ledger. I only keep about 1% of my unallocated funds in government bills and coins, in case the power goes out for a few days, 99% is a credit union ledger entry.
Digital money has, in theory, a much higher potential velocity than bills and coins. So, in theory, less digital money should be needed to service the same economic output. Also interest rates spreads should be lower since bills and coins are more cumbersome and harder to secure than 0-s and 1-s. But that is not what happened.
Digital money supply outpaced economic output everywhere. CBs lowered interest rates, reasoning that it would encourage people and business to spend. But the opposite happened, people saved more realizing they would need to do so for a reasonable retirement.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 7 2023 3:47 utc | 112

Looks like Soledar has fallen to Russia tonight. Bakhmut is almost a goner for Ukraine as well then.

Posted by: Comandante | Jan 7 2023 4:06 utc | 113

Would those who seriously think they are party to the truth of the situation in Ukraine regarding who is militarily winning or losing please step forward?
State what they believe to be the truth: who is winning, who is losing.
State their reasons for believing so.
And hopefully provide some links we can use to verify this and hopefully in future keep ourselves up to date.
Is that possible? Anyone reading these columns fit that bill?
I have long been of the opinion the allies are winning and will win.
That’s where I’m coming from. But i cannot prove my contention nor even point to authoritative sources that will prove it for me.
I have just read Robert Homan’s newsletter as compiled by Graham Siebert and it tells a quite different story. Perturbs me enough to make me ask this question here.
?

Posted by: abrogard | Jan 7 2023 4:09 utc | 114

With twitter generals loudly insisting that Abrams tanks must now be dispatched to Ukraine…
I’m wondering if the ever “profit first, profit above all” U$ may have found the solution… why “give” Ukraine tanks when you can get the Poles to pay:
>Jan6: Poland has signed an agreement on the purchase of 116 American M1A1 Abrams tanks
>…the acquisition by Poland of 116 M1A1 FEP
>… The value of the signed agreement is $1.4 billion (6.2 billion Polish zlotys) net, of which almost $200 million (880 million zlotys) will be allocated in the form of American military assistance.

The delivery will include 116 tanks (two battalion sets) M1A1 Abrams in the FEP (Firepower Enhancement Package) version, as well as 12 armored M88A2 Hercules repair and evacuation vehicles, eight M1074 Joint Assault Bridge (JAB, on the chassis of the Abrams tank), six armored command and staff vehicles M577A3, 26 mobile repair shops NG SECM based on M1152A1 HMMWV vehicles, as well as training and logistics packages. M1A1 FEP tanks are former tanks of the US Marine Corps, transferred to the storage of the US Army due to the recent reorganization of the US Marine Corps with the complete abolition of its tank units.
During the ceremony, the inspector of the Polish Ground Forces and authorized representative for the introduction of Abrams tanks, Major General Maciej Jablonski, said that the purchased M1A1 FEP tanks are used vehicles stored at the US Army warehouse in Aniston, Alabama, where they are currently beginning to undergo training and repair.
After the repair, all tanks will have the mileage and resource of the units reset to zero. The first 20 tanks were prepared in Aniston in December.
The first battalion set of M1A1 FEP (58 tanks) should be delivered to Poland by the end of 2023,…

https://vpk.name/en/672048_poland-has-signed-an-agreement-on-the-purchase-of-116-american-m1a1-abrams-tanks.html
?>And then… the Poles find a use for them in western Ukraine????
uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2023 3:16 utc | 110
From the news site you recommended. Thx.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 7 2023 4:31 utc | 116

Opport Knocks @ 104
I think the system beat you to that one. That is already a virtual reality game series in real time with those players. It is called the modern era of the US political system.

Posted by: circumspect | Jan 7 2023 4:35 utc | 117

@ Derek Henry | Jan 7 2023 2:07 utc | 99
@ Chris 113
“It really is an amazing trick the EU played on Eastern Europe.”
How do you explain that Poland still retained its currency?

Posted by: fanto | Jan 7 2023 4:35 utc | 118

Pro Ukrainian German “journalist” Julian Roelcke:
Tweet 1:
Wagner chief Prigozhin claims, his group is close to capturing #Soledar from Ukrainian defenders.
No visual confirmation so far, but pro-Ukrianian mappers mark strong Russian advances all around the city.
Tweet 2 (10hs later)
> Situation in Soledar is terrible.
Russians captured more than half of the town and are encircling what is left at the same time.
Ukraine needs a massive counteroffensive here or it’s lost, which would likely result in a domino effect and more areas lost soon.
https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 7 2023 4:50 utc | 119

Haven’t seen anyone reference or cite what Medvedev wrote on his telegraph on the 5th. Here’s the full translation of the two pieces:

The State Department published an appeal to the people of Russia, like we love all of you. It ends in their typical nasty Jesuit style: “stand in solidarity with each of you who seeks to create a more peaceful future.” And the war in Ukraine, they say, is unworthy of everyone.
Even for these primal freaks, this is the height of cynicism and the limit of moral degradation. The United States spends tens of billions on the war in Ukraine, supplying its weapons on a gigantic scale, exterminating thousands of people by proxy. This is extreme cynicism in the best traditions of the Nazis. Yes, in fact, the sons of bitches who carry such nonsense are the real heirs of Reich Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels.
Only this stillborn delirium no longer affects anyone. And you will not get the answer to it in the office silence.
The main gift for the New Year with ammunition of Zircon missiles went yesterday to the shores of NATO countries. 1000 km of the range of their use with hypersound in Mach 9 and the ability to use any charge with a guarantee overcome any missile defense. Let it stand about 100 miles from the shore, closer to the Potomac River. So rejoice!
It will bring to life anyone who poses a direct threat to Russia and our allies.
You and your henchmen who kill our people will never be forgiven. We will speak to you in the language of force, since you do not understand otherwise. And to produce even more modern weapons. Hammer them on the Nazi carrion that you spawned in the twenty-first century. To avenge every criminal for every murdered citizen of our country.
/////
Ukrainians were extended the hand of Christian mercy on the Great Feast. Their leaders rejected it. I think most of our servicemen taking part in the SVO calmly exhaled when they heard the refusal of the main Ukrainian clowns to cease fire on Christmas Day. Less trouble and disingenuousness.
People who have lost the opportunity to go to church are sorry. But pigs have no faith and no innate sense of gratitude. They understand only brute force and screechingly demand grub from their owners. That’s what the training is based on. And it will be continued by Western swineherds.
Even the illiterate German grandmother Berbok and a number of other people looking at the European pigsty managed to whine about the inadmissibility of the truce. Well, the heirs of the Nazis never spared either humans or animals. They’re no strangers to…

Today’s entry is a very appropriate photo. Was Dmitri loosened by some libations? Somewhat I’d say. The reason for his angst can be read at the thread’s first comment.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 7 2023 5:20 utc | 120

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ #Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 5-6 Jan 2023⚡️
♦️#Crimea:
▪️ The AFU tried to attack #Belbek airfield in #Sevastopol with drones on Thursday, but air defence shot down all targets.
▪️ Several drones were shot down by air defence systems near #Nizhnegorsk.
♦️#Starobelsk Direction (MAP):
▪️ In the #Kupyansk – #Svatovo section, the AFU command has transferred units of the 67th Mechanized Brigade. Nationalist formations are also located along the line of contact.
➖ In #Kupyansk, enemy positions were hit on the site of a former sugar factory.
➖ Armoured assault groups are being formed in the direction of #Krivosheyevka.
▪️ In the #Liman sector, the enemy militants attempted to storm the positions of the 3rd Motorized Rifle Division of the 20th Army of the RF Armed Forces in the area of the #Zhuravka gully, but failed and withdrew.
➖ A deployment point for the newly arrived Ukrainian militants has been set up in #Shchurovo.
♦️#Soledar Direction:
▪️ In the #Bakhmut (#Artyomovsk) area, the Wagner PMC assault troops have expanded their control zone in the southeast of #Bakhmut in the area of the Trudovy Reserves and Fedor Maksimenko Streets.
➖ In the northeast of #Bakhmut, Russian forces reached the southern outskirts of #Podgorodnoye village near the #Svetlodarsk – #Slavyansk highway.
▪️ In the #Soledar sector, the RF Armed Forces reportedly managed to advance deep into #Soledar with some fighting.
♦️#Lugansk People’s Republic:
▪️ Ukrainian terrorist formations shelled #Rubezhnoye with barrel artillery, damaging civilian infrastructure in the town.
♦️#Donetsk Direction:
▪️ Russian servicemen continue to push the enemy out of the centre to the western outskirts of #Maryinka.
▪️ The Ukrainian Terrorist Forces hit #Donetsk, #Makeyevka, #Panteleymonovka, #Gorlovka and #Yasynuvata, injuring civilians.
♦️#Zaporozhye Region:
▪️ Artillery duels continue along the line of contact. The RF Armed Forces shelled targets in #Gulyaypole, #Zaliznychnoye, #Charivnoye, #Primorsky, #Stepovoye and #Shcherbaki.
♦️#Kherson Direction on Southern Front (MAP):
▪️ The AFU is likely preparing for an amphibious assault on the #Kinburn Peninsula. An Ukrainian Bayraktar UAV is operating over #Ochakov and Dnepr Liman to monitor the situation on the peninsula.
▪️ A command post of the AFU’s 126th Territorial Defence Brigade has been set up in the #Berislav region at the Berislavsky Machine Building Plant.

https://t.me/sitreports/3037

Posted by: Down South | Jan 7 2023 5:35 utc | 121

Military experts say that the heavy equipment allocated since the beginning of December by NATO (infantry fighting vehicles from the USA and Germany, heavy wheeled armored vehicles from France, artillery from Italy, etc.) are being used by three (!) Army corps numbering 75,000 people, which the Armed Forces of Ukraine are planning create by the spring of this year. Of these, 15,000 people are trained by the European Union and at least 10,000 by Great Britain …
And there is every reason to believe that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are moving to a new organization. Prior to this, the main combat unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was a brigade of a very conditional organization, which included from three to five and even six infantry battalions, of which three were full-time, and the rest were attached, most often from the defense.
At the same time, late formation brigades (after August 2022) often did not have their own tank battalions and very limited artillery, being, in fact, infantry. Their general management was limited to the headquarters of the directions to which they were transferred. On the one hand, this made it possible to quickly maneuver forces, transferring them from one threatening direction or sector of the front to another, creating the necessary density of troops, especially in defense.
But the reverse side of the coin was the poor controllability of such “placers” of brigades, their low interaction with each other, especially in the offensive, as well as heavy losses, since the command did not think much about saving personnel, which existed, as it were, separately from combat control, being actually a “tool”. Under this organization, the corps acted as administrative units – forming and training reserves.
This organization showed its effectiveness in defense, but turned out to be ineffective in the offensive, which was shown by the onset of September-November, when, having a three-fold, and sometimes seven-fold superiority over the enemy, the advancing groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in fact, only “pushed back” the Russian troops, without carrying out any -some large-scale operations to break through the front and encirclement, which allowed the Russian command to withdraw troops in time.
And now, apparently, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine decided to move on to the formation of full-fledged combat formations – corps. This should increase the combat capabilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, especially in the offensive, as it will make the combat command and control more flexible, and the formation itself – the parts included in the corps – more coordinated and manageable.
In fact, there is an organizational consolidation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which indicates that in ten months a large group of military leaders with combat experience who are able to manage such formations have been accumulated, as well as experience has been gained to manage such formations. The formation of new corps in the new organization testifies to the preparation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for an offensive campaign in the spring of 2023.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/27738

Posted by: Down South | Jan 7 2023 5:38 utc | 122

Julian @100:
I suspect your intuitions of a continued slow grind, where resistance persists, is correct. It is, after all, what General Surovikin seemed to be forecasting.
There is only 1 significant territorial imperative in the short term: end the shelling of Donbas cities.
It may be the RF strategic leadership prefers to grind NATO / EU / US for much longer–say, at least until after US elections in 2024.
What was supposed to be a quick but incomplete Russian walk over, but a crushing economic war, with an insurgency of the remaining angry young military aged males, has turned into a meat, material and money furnace for the West.

Posted by: Paul Damascene | Jan 7 2023 5:40 utc | 123

Of the most interesting and apprehensive in this package of military assistance, of course, is the first “trial” delivery of 50 relatively modern Western M2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles (which had not previously been delivered to Ukraine under various pretexts).
In addition, the emergence of Sea Sparrow anti-aircraft missiles, which, apparently, against the background of the depletion of Soviet missiles, will be installed on self-propelled firing systems of the Buk air defense system through modernization, deserves special attention. Also in the context of American deliveries, one can notice the transfer of self-propelled artillery installations. It is obvious that the 155-mm self-propelled guns M109 will play this role, the only question is in what modification.
As we have repeatedly stated, Western deliveries will only increase and the emphasis will be on Western air defense systems and anti-aircraft missiles, as the Soviet stock available to the Armed Forces of Ukraine is rapidly running out. Over time, Western countries will be able to cover the shortage of air defense systems in the Ukrainian army with their supplies, which will create a serious threat to the effectiveness of our long-range missile strikes on infrastructure and make it extremely problematic for the full return of the airborne forces to the battlefield.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/27746

Posted by: Down South | Jan 7 2023 5:40 utc | 124

It was clear a week ago that the position of the AFU at Soledar was very difficult. Every day the ucranians were losing servicmen, retreating to Wagner’s ironclads. And often the best infantry in the world attacked and occupied enemy positions with little support or no support at all from armoured vehicles. 
Today there are reports that the Wagner’s are already in the centre of Soledar, whether this is true or not, we shall see soon. In fact, this is the best Christmas present ever. It is due to the strong will of the fighters and commanders who, even in the most difficult times, advanced when others fled abandoning their equipment.  
Not only Wagner’s infantry is fighting in this section of the front, but it is the Wagner units that are the backbone and driving force behind the heavy offensive in the Bachmuth meat grinder. A battle that halted the offensive rush of the AFU to the north, forcing Kiev to shift forces to Bakhmut, throwing them into the cauldron of battle and ultimately putting thousands of soldiers to the ground. 
The time will come and historians will appreciate the events of the autumn-winter of 2022, draw conclusions and argue about these or those facts. We, all those who were fortunate in one way or another to be at the front at this time, will remember and carry in our memories the hardships and anxieties, which in the end will lead to our great victory. We are Russians after all, so God is with us! 
Merry Christmas, brothers and sisters!

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/27766

Posted by: Down South | Jan 7 2023 5:46 utc | 125

“TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone. ”
Posted by: Setanta | Jan 6 2023 17:56 utc | 1
wow. where is this from? ty.

Posted by: polarbear4 | Jan 7 2023 5:57 utc | 126

In fact, there is an organizational consolidation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which indicates that in ten months a large group of military leaders with combat experience who are able to manage such formations have been accumulated, as well as experience has been gained to manage such formations. The formation of new corps in the new organization testifies to the preparation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for an offensive campaign in the spring of 2023.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/27738
Posted by: Down South | Jan 7 2023 5:38 utc | 124
I’m not a military expert but am into analyzing Western bullshit. I can tell from long experience, if there is one thing that is always on the top shelf in the Western bullshit store, it is reorganization.
“We trained hard—but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams we were reorganized. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing, and what a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while actually producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization.”
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/11/12/reorganizing/

Posted by: veto | Jan 7 2023 6:10 utc | 127

@james-77/78
Arrogance, ignorance, and sarcasm. What a cocktail. I want to smoke what you smoking…NOT.

Posted by: truthseeker | Jan 7 2023 6:18 utc | 128

@ truthseeker | Jan 7 2023 6:18 utc | 130
stick with the bullshit… i guess you think that works better..

Posted by: james | Jan 7 2023 6:24 utc | 129

@Gabriel in Ireland,
Thanks dad for the comforting thought.it is good to know there are self-assured trolls on here to fall back on.

Posted by: truthseeker | Jan 7 2023 6:27 utc | 130

Weeb Union spends eight minutes and estimates troop numbers on both sides in the liberation of Ukraine from the nazi occupiers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uGp6OdAppg
For those barflies that appreciate data and such.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2023 6:55 utc | 131

@young | Jan 7 2023 0:33 utc | 84

temperature will be below or at freezing temperature of 32 F for the next 14 days.

Only Americans use the antiquated F scale. In Europe, please refer to Celsius.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 7 2023 7:05 utc | 132

Russia wins again in Soledar
see this video ‘RETREAT’
Meanwhile the relentless force of liberation continues to overwhelm Artyomovsky
From Geroman

The Russian army is advancing in the Artyomovsky direction and shelling the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kupyansk, Liman and Avdeevka – the main thing from the summary of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine:
▪️In the Kupyansky and Limansky directions, Russian troops inflicted fire damage on Ukrainian units in areas of more than 20 settlements. Among them are Dvurechnaya, Kupyansk, Kislovka, Kotlyarovka and Krakhmalnoe of the Kharkiv region and Stelmakhovka, Makeevka, Ploschanka and Dibrova LPR.
▪️In the Artyomovsky direction, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were subjected to fire damage by the RF Armed Forces in areas of more than 20 settlements. In particular, these are Yakovlevka, Disputable, Berestovoe, Belogorovka, Soledar, Artemovsk and New York DPR.
▪️In the Avdiivka direction, Russian troops fired at the positions of Ukrainian units in the areas of the settlement. Avdiivka, Veseloe, Nevelskoye, Krasnogorovka, Kamenka, Georgievka, Maryinka and Novomikhailovka DPR.

It doesn’t take a weatherman to see that Russia is winning.
This will continue for some time and there will come a day when even the trolls will start singing the Internationale 😉

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2023 7:38 utc | 133

Link
Posted by: Likklemore | Jan 7 2023 2:18 utc | 101
Should public opinion in France become a tsunami wave against the malicious game of the Americans others will follow in line.
NATO shatters and the Rothschild stooge will be hog tied.
Posted by: Likklemore | Jan 7 2023 3:37 utc | 112
What a pleasant thought you expressed there, Likklemore.
Huge thanks for providing that link to the interview with Pierre DeGaulle.
(I’m curious why he isn’t more prominent in French politics.)
It’s a bit rough in the form presented at the link but I took it into Word and straightened it out before reading it through.
I heartily back up Uncle Tungsten in his praise. It is a must read.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 7 2023 7:52 utc | 134

Video of Mother being refused entry in Orthodox Church (taken over by Kiev Regime) to bury her son.
https://twitter.com/e_l_g_c_a/status/1611560939727511552

Posted by: Exile | Jan 7 2023 7:52 utc | 135

Russia wins again.
See my post at open thread regarding Jackson Hinkle reporting on Russian victory with Syria and Turkey 🙂

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2023 8:06 utc | 136

Weeb Union War Updates renders a detailed report on Russian progressive victory in Soledar.
Five minutes and rigorously geo located map referenced presentation.
This site is always worth a brief check in due to its calm reliability and fast updates. Weeb does not do imaginary theorising unless data is supportive.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2023 8:38 utc | 137

@james-131
Na, bullshit is your specialty on this website and you excel at it. BTW, you should take your own advice since your style of b.s., bullying and insult is perfect combination and highly prized on Twitter. I wouldn’t be surprised if you already didn’t have an account spreading spam. That seems to be the value you bring to these websites, since you really have nothing constructive to offer but vile Venum.

Posted by: truthseeker | Jan 7 2023 8:44 utc | 138

@karlof1-122
Thanks for the posting. It looks like the gloves are coming off.

Posted by: truthseeker | Jan 7 2023 8:57 utc | 139

“pyramids of Nazca”
Posted by: gatobart | Jan 7 2023 2:07 utc | 98
«something reserved for archaeologists»
Indeed as far as archaeology goes they are a fairly recent find and a fairly unexpected one (that there was anything significant at all around that area).
When I did a web search I was surprised that there are already tourist trips to the area, the archaeologists must be mad about it, to them the tourists are much worse than the locusts.

Posted by: Blissex | Jan 7 2023 9:13 utc | 140

Opport Knocks @114
Materialism and consumerism are both toxic environments for both humanity and the natural world. There is every possible reason for opposing digital “money”, as it totally ties ALL financial transactions to the power of the state and those bankster schemers who own it. I’m talking the Rottenchild and Rottenfeller crime clans and their various associates, particularly among the very most “Chosen” who would then be totally empowered.
Personally I do not give a fat, furry, fart for an economy based on waste and on the WarDefense industry. We need a cultural revolution which would begin with a total boycott on Hollywood style mind-control Bernaysian memes. Urbanization and sub-urbanization must be shitcanned. The further people drift from daily contact with the natural world, the further we devolve from our own humanity.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 7 2023 9:28 utc | 141

@young | Jan 7 2023 0:33 utc | 84
temperature will be below or at freezing temperature of 32 F for the next 14 days.
Only Americans use the antiquated F scale. In Europe, please refer to Celsius.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 7 2023 7:05 utc | 134
In this case, it is a simple conversion.
32F = 0C = freezing point of water
Perhaps you could provide a link to a weather site that uses C.
In the meantime, 1°C = 1.8°F
So °C = (°F – 32) ÷ 1.8
or °F = (°C x 1.8) + 32

Posted by: Mary | Jan 7 2023 9:33 utc | 142

Here’s one of the best in the world, from the home country of Norwegian:
https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/daily-table/2-703448/Ukraine/Kyiv%20City/Kyiv

Posted by: veto | Jan 7 2023 9:38 utc | 143

karlof1@122
Dmitri’s statement indicates he would fit right in amongst the majority of commenters on Unz. The Evil Empire, as controlled by the Bank$ter element in City of London could be frustrating to any sane individual. The toxicity metastasizes on an accelerating basis. It is difficult to maintain balanced sanity when dealing with them and their supporters. So to ape Wee Willy Clinton’ I can feel Dmitri’s pain.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 7 2023 9:40 utc | 144

@ uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2023 6:55 utc | 133
An RF ‘Army’, is 4 Divisions, ~40k. Not even a mention of the 1st Guards Tank Army, nor the 2nd Tank Army ?
The assumptions re Belarus mobilized & trained troops are … extraordinarily flawed. Belarus forces are committed to pinning adjacent NATO troops in place & defending Belarus borders/territory. Belarus is not even an active or declared belligerent. He’s clearly not aware of this. RF forces have actually been deployed to re-inforce/support Belarus. Belarus only has ~200,00 available reservists to call up, in total.
Chechen forces are not on public PR videos since Mariupol, ’cause OPSEC, same re Wagner, except when they wish to manipulate via sanctioned/cleared publishing Maskirovka. ~70,000 additional Chechens, really ? Credible sources ?
The mobilized RF ~300,000 are veterans, recalled active reservists, with minimum 1 years prior service within last 5 years. They were not ‘trained’, they received refresher & enhanced/update training re current real world Ops re SMO. 8 weeks. He missed the volunteer troops mobilized by individual Republics. The figures for AFU are just all over the place, along with casualties on both sides. Respectfully, it’s gobbledygook, with huge assumptions, compounded by major recurring wild guesses, zero demonstration of relevant applicable knowledge … and … and … COD level …
Pass.
@ truthseeker | Jan 7 2023 8:44 utc | 140
See

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 7 2023 9:45 utc | 145

Mary #144
Ventusky.com
you can set F or C you can switch between wind rain snow. You can set date to see ahead or run a seven day forecast video from the ‘play symbol at lower left of the calendar. Zoom in or out.
Its a goodie

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2023 9:53 utc | 146

Setanta posted: Now I understand the Rus.
“The most terrifying force of death, comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone…”
That reads like the manifesto of a school shooter.
Politics and diplomacy are the first option in settling disputes and differences, with violence as the last option. That is the path Putin has followed. Failing to engage in the first option makes the last inevitable. That is the path of neoliberalism. We need more politics, not less, but with greater representation to entice those who want to be left alone.

Posted by: begob | Jan 7 2023 9:53 utc | 147

Outraged #147
Thank you and I trust you posted your comments at Weeb Union utoob channel.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2023 9:56 utc | 148

My question is, one year after the Russian SMO began, why the eff is the Ukrainian front line still dug in one mile outside of Donetsk? If anything screams Russian incompetence, that does.

Posted by: Rhinoskerous | Jan 7 2023 9:58 utc | 149

downsouth@124
So. The Ukies are taking their cues from the Western militaries and are rebooting by means of reorganizational concepts. They are boasting of some 25,000 officers and cadres, to prep up some 50,000 new recruits. Although those officers and cadres have been retrained by the Brits and all; there needs to be kept in mind that those of them who have already seen combat include a huge proportion who currently suffer PTSD as the result of having been exposed to constant shelling by Russian forces.
Thus my question would be whether “upgraded” training methods would be sufficient to overcome their previous levels of psychological exhaustion. Would they actually stiffen the staying power of their teenage, elderly and female newbies, or would they continue to use them up as has been the case with the Ukies’ military commanders to date. A historical equivalent may have been Britain’s “New Army” which suffered 50,000 casualties on one day in the first Battle of the Somme on 7-1-16 when they attempted to assault German lines immediately following the most massive artillery bombardment in military history.
Wastage of “Human Resources” has been the leitmotif of Ukraine’s generals. Can some Western training at lower command levels overcome that propensity, accelerated by the ukases of the little piano-dick-tater in Kiev?

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 7 2023 9:59 utc | 150

@ uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2023 9:56 utc | 150
No.

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 7 2023 10:18 utc | 151

My question is, one year after the Russian SMO began, why the eff is the Ukrainian front line still dug in one mile outside of Donetsk? If anything screams Russian incompetence, that does.
Posted by: Rhinoskerous | Jan 7 2023 9:58 utc | 151
They have been building fortifications for 8 years there, look up Brian Berletic (The New Atlas) video, he explains everything about it there, why cant RF just run them over… basically they dug in so good you gotta clear them out slowly if you want to avoid massive losses.

Posted by: Jzo | Jan 7 2023 10:22 utc | 152

Norwegian @134
Here’s where we have our first disagreement. The system concocted by Anders Censius, is no doubt very useful for laboratories and suchlike. However, when it comes to the Fahrenheit system is far more applicable when measuring temperatures on the ground and also for distances. That so-called “English” system is far more ancient, dating back at least to the creation of the pyramids in pre-Pharoahonic Egypt, rather than the silly rationalistic, materialistic notion of the “foot” for example, being standardized on the basis of some dead English king’s foot.
Let’s look at temperatures. Celsius is fine for the areas of the North Sea and clear up the Norwegian coast, lands which are so modulated by the Gulf Stream, that there is very minor variance in temperature throughout the year. But when you consider large land masses, such as North America or Siberia, Fahrenheit temperatures can vary from 110 F to -50 in places like Saskatchewan. There is a qualitative difference when temperatures dive below zero Fahrenheit. As a native resident of Northern Minnesota, I can definitely feel it when temps drop into that range. Thus, the elder measurement is far more applicable to my neighborhood than to yours. Dr Hans Tjonn, who was the frequent companion of Dr. Aud Blegen Svindland in 1979 provided me with an excellent translator between the two systems, as he noted that 16 Centigrade is almost exactly the same as 60 Fahrenheit, a fine system for Norge south of Tromso…but only marginally utile is Winnipeg, my closest city of any size…but the poor Canuckistanis are stuck with Celsius.
Same thing on ground measurements. The Centigrade metric system is just fine for some little entity like Belgium, where an Ostend to Bastogne by bicycle takes only a matter of hours. Not applicable in Canuckistan if one rides from White Rock, B.C. to Pictou County, Nova Scotia. Kilometers are simply silly over such a distance. Even miles barely suffice. Millimeters and centimeters are not nearly so handy for everyday life as inches and feet. The inch is extremely ancient, being the averaged distance from the tip of the thumb to the knuckle in the human male. Thus, the ancient system is more organic, while Celsius’ system is more systematic and regular…and also more caught up in the Cartesian concept of “scientific materialism”.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 7 2023 10:24 utc | 153

Uncle Tungsten @139
Thanks for the Weeb Union site. His postings are low-key and informative. Quite clear, in fact. He’s far superior to Dima with his wishy-washy take and his boring personna. I do still kinda like Alexander Mercuris in parts of his takes. But he does tend to be repetitive and drony. He’s fine for background sound when I’m preparing and eating breakfast…as my mornings are both turgid and mentally not up to speed. When it comes to sitting down in front of the 21″ iMac screen, however, Weeb’s presentations are quite useful and succinct.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 7 2023 10:36 utc | 154

Over time, Western countries will be able to cover the shortage of air defense systems in the Ukrainian army with their supplies, which will create a serious threat to the effectiveness of our long-range missile strikes on infrastructure and make it extremely problematic for the full return of the airborne forces to the battlefield.
Slavyangrad
Posted by: Down South | Jan 7 2023 5:40 utc | 126

Reading Slavyangrad is a waste of time. Marty from Amerika is correct this time, these military channels are idiots.
The air defenses Ukr had were much better than nato has send and at least equal to what nato can send in the future. Most of it was wiped out in the first two weeks. Everything nato sends only kills more people, mostly nazis. But unfortunately these weapons are used against civilians too. They use anything they get from nato to shoot at civilians, from anti-radar missiles, himars, mines, banned French mines, artillery, everything. Soon depleted uranium will appear.
So they’ll have to evacuate more from those regions because nato will start to use that small army they’ve been training in EU bases and they will surely be used against civilians, there’s nothing else to do with them but terrorism. Every few months there will be a wave of more or less kamikaze and I would not be surprised if refugees will be forced to go back, fight for Slava Cocaini.

Posted by: rk | Jan 7 2023 10:49 utc | 155

When it comes to overall military strategy, Moscow seems to have gotten smarter -Foreign policy
The partial mobilization of reservists that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered in September has strengthened Russian forces at the front. The bombing campaign against Ukrainian energy infrastructure that began in October is forcing Ukraine and its allies to divert resources toward the defense of the country’s energy infrastructure.And the withdrawal of Russian forces from the city of Kherson in November has saved capable units from destruction and freed them for action elsewhere.
The Attacks on Ukrainian Energy Infrastructure
The strikes against Ukraine’s electrical grid are particularly effective—and not just because they could turn the winter into a brutal struggle for survival for Ukrainian civilians. This campaign has not proved decisive so far, but like most strategic bombing campaigns, it imposes direct and indirect military costs.
Modern military systems for air defense, command and control, and intelligence gathering run on electricity, and if they cannot get it from the grid, they must get it from generators. But making that transition is not as easy as flipping a switch, and it can degrade these systems’ performance. Moreover, relying on generators places additional demands for fuel on the Ukraine’s military logistics system. The heat signatures produced by generators, meanwhile, add yet another data point that Russian intelligence can use to produce a more accurate picture of Ukrainian forces.
Russia’s bombing campaign also imposes opportunity costs: the Ukrainians must expend resources to adapt to the attacks, and already they have made defending electricity infrastructure from airstrikes a military and diplomatic priority. The country’s substantial weapons and ammunition industry depends on electricity, as does much of the rail system that moves war materiel around the country. With a damaged electricity grid, Ukraine’s soldiers and civilians will have to rely more on diesel-powered trains and diesel generators or shift to generators powered by scarce natural gas. These exigencies will divert still more fuel that could otherwise have been used for military operations, or they will simply impose more costs on Ukraine’s allies, which will need to deliver the fuel. The West is helping Ukraine repair the grid as best it can while under constant attack. But from the Russian perspective, this is good news, as the repairs consume resources that cannot be used to support fighting at the front.
The most alarming thing about Russia’s bombing campaign is that Moscow knows what it is doing. The Russians are hitting a small number of targets with relatively few weapons and producing disproportionate effects. Even though U.S. and British officials have regularly predicted that the Russian military would exhaust its supply of munitions, it has evidently
found them somewhere. 
Kherson retreat
The Russians pulled off one of the hardest military operations: retreating during a major attack without suffering the disintegration or annihilation of their forces. It was no small feat to move some 20,000 soldiers and most of their combat equipment across the Dnieper after Ukrainian forces had destroyed key bridges. And even while under intense intelligence surveillance by the West and Ukraine, they managed to maintain the element of surprise.  The Russian rear-guard units maintained a coherent defense, even though they must have known that their comrades closer to the river were escaping.
Somehow, the Russians managed to repair damaged bridges while under fire, throw up pontoon bridges, and employ ferries to get their people and equipment out, defending each avenue of escape from Ukrainian attack.
According to press reports and satellite imagery, Russian troops are digging defensive positions all along the line of contact and constructing sequential barriers of concrete obstacles and bunkers. They are also presumably seeding the ground with mines.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/27831

Posted by: Down South | Jan 7 2023 10:57 utc | 156

Weeb Union spends eight minutes and estimates troop numbers on both sides in the liberation of Ukraine from the nazi occupiers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uGp6OdAppg
For those barflies that appreciate data and such.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2023 6:55 utc | 133
Yep. thanks for that but I’m disappointed. Not impressed.

Posted by: abrogard | Jan 7 2023 10:57 utc | 157

For every Ukrainian $1, Russia earned more than $3. The financial benefits of the Black Sea deal
The head of the Turkish Defence Ministry voiced the results of the Black Sea grain deal. According to the official, Ukraine exported 17m tonnes of grain through trade corridors.
The deal did not save Ukraine from a decline in exports – compared to 2020, grain shipments fell by 1m tonnes. In Russia, the situation is the opposite – during the same period, grain exports increased by 17m tonnes. In 2 years, Russia has increased its agricultural production by the volume that the whole black earth-rich Ukraine produces. In record 2022, Russian exports of 54m tonnes would have been impossible without the Black Sea deal.
While Ukrainian companies earned about $7bn in revenue, Russian companies earned about $23bn.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/27842

Posted by: Down South | Jan 7 2023 10:59 utc | 158

Ukraine threatens with fist – non-independent general staff hastily assembles offensive forces
Recently we have witnessed the unprecedented activity of Western arms sponsors of Ukraine – countries vigorously increase supplies to Kiev, sending Ukraine even those samples of equipment which previously were feared to be delivered. Thus, today the U.S. will announce a record $2.85 billion package. Apparently, the Ukrainian army is rapidly assembling an attacking “fist” against Russia.
The West is now heavily involved in preparing the Ukrainian army for a new act of warfare, which could begin relatively soon. German Chancellor Scholz has announced that the FRG will send up to fifty Marder BMPs and one battery of Patriot air defense systems to the Ukrainian armed forces, in addition to the US, and this is to be done as quickly as possible, according to the Welt newspaper. “The Marders will be in addition to the American Bradleys, which will also be sent to Ukraine soon. Such deliveries always signal that there are plans to use them – otherwise, what are they for in the first place?
There is also restructuring in the ranks of the AFU itself – the Ukrainian command is assembling a new 10th Army Corps in the Dnipropetrovsk region, which plans to send modern Western weaponry. We should also note that such actions in the army are not taken for nothing, and this is a clear signal of the AFU’s intentions to conduct offensive activities.
One might ask quite a reasonable question: what is an offensive “fist” without tanks? The answer is given by British Foreign Secretary James Cleverley, who has said that his country will consider providing Kiev with tanks in the future.
Combined with the new army corps, as well as plans to saturate the AFU with all sorts of BMPs, one can reasonably expect the final formation of a Ukrainian strike force by the spring of summer.
The West will not stop pumping weapons into Ukraine and will not change its course toward the destruction of Russia. The only possible answer is the defeat of Ukrainians on the battlefield.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/27830

Posted by: Down South | Jan 7 2023 11:02 utc | 159

Ukrainian volunteers have voiced criticism of Zaluzhnyy, commander of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, over his order “not to let fighters go for treatment,” which leaves Ukrainian soldiers “rotting and waiting” for the weather. One of the volunteers reports that the AFU now has at least four brigades with tuberculosis, as soldiers are constantly being transferred from different units to be re-staffed.
Of course, the post (screenshot below) caused a flurry of outrage in the comments. People started telling similar stories, as well as adding about army fatigue and blaming Zaluzhny and the generals for everything. Also, as an example, one Ukrainian soldier shared his “sad story” of how he had been waiting for a rotation from Bakhmut but was simply manned by another unit of the 54th AFU brigade.
This once again confirms the colossal losses of the AFU in manpower and the negligent attitude of the AFU command to its “meat.” Is this Zaluzhny’s stupidity and cannibalism? No. Zaluzhny knows that new soldiers are being trained in his rear, and mobilization across Ukraine continues, so there is not much of a problem with manpower replenishment. It is inexpedient to release the sick for treatment. They will die anyway, but at the moment, because of the onslaught of Russian troops, they need to be on the front line in any condition to buy time to prepare and deliver reserves.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/27843

Posted by: Down South | Jan 7 2023 11:03 utc | 160

GAE leaders have repeatedly said Ukraine is their proxy, fighting Russia so they don’t have to — while pretending to not be parties to the conflict and hiding behind legal technicalities. In December, Russian Defense Minister Shoigu publicly said that Moscow was practically fighting the collective West.
Last night, in a TV interview targeting the domestic audience, Kiev’s “defense minister” Reznikov openly argued that Ukraine is the “shield of civilization,” shedding blood in service of NATO’s mission — fighting Russia — so that Western countries don’t have to, so supplying them with weapons, ammunition and money is the least the West can do.
Moscow’s warnings to the West to stop seem to be falling on deaf ears. Just this week, France announced it would send wheeled tanks, Germany gave in on Marder IFVs, and the US confirmed it would send over 50 Bradley IVFs. They’ll keep pushing until Russia actually reacts — and then shriek, clutch their pearls and play victim, of course.
Russia’s total lack of retaliation for NS2, or the murder of Darya Dugina (though not for the Crimean Bridge, it needs be said) has only emboldened this behavior. The only logical explanation — as I noted earlier this week — is that bleeding out the West via Ukraine is actually the plan.

https://t.me/sitreports/3051

Posted by: Down South | Jan 7 2023 11:05 utc | 161

eing the averaged distance from the tip of the thumb to the knuckle in the human male. Thus, the ancient system is more organic, while Celsius’ system is more systematic and regular…and also more caught up in the Cartesian concept of “scientific materialism”.
Posted by: aristodemos | Jan 7 2023 10:24 utc | 155
I’ve had a few interactions with these children who love the metric system.
Usually find they know little about it in fact and are mainly motivated by a desire to avoid mental arithmetic.
So I try to point out them that mental arithmetic is minimised in the imperial system.
And I like to point to the Mason’s symbols incorporates a set of dividers. You can google and get heaps of hits talking about mystic meanings but the plain simple meaning is that practical tradesmen of all kinds used dividers typically.
With dividers geometry could be drawn. right angles drawn. lengths measured, transferred.
And what do dividers do? They divide into equal sections first of all and that’s what the imperial system does.
Even seamen used them in their navigation measuring distances on their charts.
In other words they are a practical measure with their roots in pragmatism, the practical world. Of humans Our world.
The metric system is not such a system. It is a mathematicians system if you like: the product of pure ‘reason’ or something. An academic mathematical search for a common denominator. Something to reduce things to something all will have in common.
The mathematicians says that will then be a great boon as it will reduce the need for calculation.
In fact computers have reduced the need for calculation.
And what the world needs is more people capable of and keen to calculate rather than fewer.
Mental agility is an asset.
The whole premise of the ‘metric is best’ platform is that it reduces the need for mental agility. This is false because 1. as said, simple dividers and the concept of division of itself eliminates much need for calculation and 2. mental agility is still required across the whole range of human enterprise.
I wonder how they’d get on these days multiplying pounds, shillings and pence?
A thing little children could do in their heads when I was young. Had to do, just to buy lollies in the shop for self and friend and check the change.

Posted by: abrogard | Jan 7 2023 11:17 utc | 162

Posted by: rk | Jan 7 2023 10:49 utc | 157
For once, we’re in agreement. So much so that I suspect someone has borrowed your user ID. 🙂

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jan 7 2023 11:22 utc | 163

@Mary | Jan 7 2023 9:33 utc | 144

Perhaps you could provide a link to a weather site that uses C.

All sites use C except US American ones. Please use only C in Europe.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 7 2023 11:28 utc | 164

Perhaps a tad OT…
Norwegian | Jan 7 2023 7:05 utc | 134
“Only Americans use the antiquated F scale. In Europe, please refer to Celsius.”
Seems perhaps a Parochial (narrow) view point??
Celsius temperature scale is cruder than Fahrenheit which clearly has finer gradation. Finer gradation generally implies more accuracy when describing a phenomenon…

Posted by: DoesItReallyMatter | Jan 7 2023 11:32 utc | 165

abrogard | Jan 7 2023 11:17 utc | 164
As a German mechanic I just have to look at the measurements for plumbing ipes and threads to see that without the metric system nothing will work. A one inch pipe had in old times an inside diameter of one inch, but as the thickness´of the pipe material has been reduced, one inch pipes have a bigger inside diameter now. Any table of plubing pipes are now accompanied by metric mesurements of the the tube and the threads.

Posted by: Johannes S. Herbst | Jan 7 2023 11:37 utc | 166

@aristodemos | Jan 7 2023 10:24 utc | 155
I am sorry, but this does not make sense. Americans must learn that the death of their empire also means to relate to the measurement system that the world uses (SI system). For temperature that means Kelvin (K) and Celsius (C), C = K – 273.15 . The main argument is that all the world is using C, except the US, so the US must change. As for practical matters, water freezes at 0 C and boils at 100 C it is that simple.
I can tolerate US Americans using F in the US, even though it is pointless. But when we are talking about war conditions in Europe, instigated by the US, there is no question what is tolerated.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 7 2023 11:41 utc | 167

@DoesItReallyMatter | Jan 7 2023 11:32 utc | 167

“Only Americans use the antiquated F scale. In Europe, please refer to Celsius.”
Seems perhaps a Parochial (narrow) view point??

Not if you read what I said. “Only Americans” os too wide, it should be “Only US americans”. The world, except US americans, uses Celsius. The US american viewpoint is the narrow one. Using F scale about temperatures in Ukraine is, shall we say, disrespectful.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 7 2023 11:50 utc | 168

@aristodemos | Jan 7 2023 10:24 utc | 155
@abrogard | Jan 7 2023 11:17 utc | 164
Sounds like you are stuck with a dearly loved antiquated measurement system of your youth, that’s fine for me, but trying to project an objective advantage into imperial units is simply grotesque.
If the mental representation of a distance depends on the measurement unit, then I suspect this has more to do with the subject’s mind than the measurement system as such

Posted by: daniel_s | Jan 7 2023 11:52 utc | 169

TASS, Jan. 4 —
“Estonia to begin procedure of transferring frozen Russian assets to Kiev”
If Russia’s a great world power, Estonia’s ranking is?
This war is being lost. There is no such thing as half a war, especially half a long war.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Jan 7 2023 12:02 utc | 170

My God.
Any wanting to know why America is unable to admit defeat, any wanting to know why US reflexively denies reality, read the comments here about Imperial versus metric. Talk to an American and all day long it is the same bullshit. They will argue about which direction is up, does the sun rise in the east, black is white, and they think this makes them superior and virtuous.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 7 2023 12:03 utc | 171

Posted by: Paul Damascene | Jan 7 2023 5:40 utc | 125 “What was supposed to be a quick but incomplete Russian walk over, but a crushing economic war, with an insurgency of the remaining angry young military aged males, has turned into a meat, material and money furnace for the West.”
But at a pretty small cost to the West. The estimates being thrown around for, for example, the US, its contribution is 5% of its defense budget. Given we are assured by posters here a MOA, that the stuff being sent is almost all junk from the West’s closet cleaning, it looks pretty cheap on everyone in the West’s part. Well, except Ukraine’s part as that country is being destroyed. Next up with the largest cost is Russia. Those 60,000 shells a day, all those missiles, all cost money.

Posted by: Bill Smith | Jan 7 2023 12:10 utc | 172

Abe | Jan 6 2023 23:33 utc | 74

Run by jews, ruled by brown/black street gangs on street, trannes and faggots, with part of population screaming “seig heil” among all that, while complete state control worse than 1984 telling them all is ok.

This author comes across like a homophobic racist. With respect to the first two clauses, this impression might be misleading. But I don’t know how to explain away the authors reference to “faggots”.

Posted by: grunzt | Jan 7 2023 12:12 utc | 173

Norwegian | Jan 7 2023 11:50 utc | 171
“The US american viewpoint is the narrow one. Using F scale about temperatures in Ukraine is, shall we say, disrespectful.”
The Fahrenheit scale for measuring temp is not a “point of view”. It happens to be a finer gradation scale, hence more accurate when describing variable weather conditions. And describing the use of the the scale as opposed to a less accurate one “disrespectful” smacks of pure wokeism. Apparently it is all down to feelings.

Posted by: DoesItReallyMatter | Jan 7 2023 12:21 utc | 174

Ah… I begin to get some real information:
https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/russias-completely-avoidable-shell

Posted by: abrogard | Jan 7 2023 12:28 utc | 175

Posted by: daniel_s | Jan 7 2023 11:52 utc | 172
you miss the point. best you stick with your calculator I think.

Posted by: abrogard | Jan 7 2023 12:30 utc | 176

Roadblock and Uncle Tungsten:
The snipers and all other parties active in the Maidan coup including the Nazi groups and the neo-lib NGO backed people could have just left the LPR, DPR and Crimea alone, let them have semiautonomous governance and continue to go about their education and business in their language right? Something like Minsk 1 and 2 perhaps. However the nationalist ideology and pure hatred of the Nazis and their NATO puppet masters was too strong to leave these people alone, shelling and genocidal terrorism was the only way forward no matter what treaties were signed, or actors elected.

Posted by: James c | Jan 7 2023 12:52 utc | 177

Ah, the exceptionalism of the Imperial System has manifested itself in the thread.
Very respectfully, Usamericans, eff off with your mystical numbers.

Posted by: Ricardo Ramirez | Jan 7 2023 12:53 utc | 178

No wonder there’s trouble in the world if people get upset about different measurement systems.
(Bring back the span and the cubit, that’s what I say!)

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 7 2023 12:59 utc | 179

Actually Fahrenheit is good if you’re used to it, because it’s got a bigger range, though I use Celsius for scientific calcs. But Celsius isn’t perfect, or Absolute Zero would be 0, not -273.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jan 7 2023 13:05 utc | 180

Ricardo Ramirez | Jan 7 2023 12:53 utc | 182
“Very respectfully, Usamericans, eff off with your mystical numbers.”
Likewise, very respectfully (sarc)…
Judgmental labels, attributes derisively described as being an example of “exceptionalism” and “mystical” when talking about the use of scientific scales to measure physical phenomnon would appear to demonstrate your own mental lapse (or attrophy); if it is indeed a lapse rather than simply the norm.

Posted by: DoesItReallyMatter | Jan 7 2023 13:06 utc | 181

Posted by: Jzo | Jan 7 2023 10:22 utc | 154
Ukros Dug in so well in Bakhmut and Soledar? Well the Russians knew it , and should have planned better for it. Who says it was hard to get defenders out?
Heard of Tsar Bombas and Thermobaric bombs, or kinetic missiles who go down and are bunker -busters? Heard of drowning them all by filling the place with water? Or torching them all with flamethrowers of gas? All off the top of my head.
Don’t forget that for months we were told there would be cauldrons closing in that area any time soon. We were told the Russians were a manoeuvring army just waiting to draw those defenders out of their dugouts etc. Well ,why didn’t the Russians just go around Bakhmut and let the Ukro – nazis come out and chase them if they wanted to, and then the Russians could destroy them in depth? Hitler did it with the Defensive walls of France. Why wouldn’t Russia?
Why ? Who knows? Maybe the Russians wanted to not kill their “Slavic brothers” , maybe they wanted to show the ROW what nice guys they were? Maybe they wanted to meatgrind all the Ukros who supposedly love throwing themselves into the maw of the cannons to die for Cocaine and Country.
Me? What do I think? After all the evidence , and I have read and thought deeply, We are here because Russia was stupid. It went in with too few men, mostly on”contracts” of six months (how effing stupid is that !), and too afraid of Russian body-bags. You don’t fight wars like that, especially if you say it is existential for you !
Gerasimov,Shoigu and even Surovitkin are all morons , and I don’t care what people say about their brains. I see the videos of Putin declaring war and both Shoigu and Gerasimov looked like sheepish schoolboys. Neither looked determined , tough or confident to me. Surovitkin is just a chump who retreats and a no-hoper.
Sack the useless lot and put in some dynamic and smart ones .Someone like Serbia’s Mladic for instance.
As I said previously , Russia looks as if it will win the war , and lose the peace as it did in the Treaty of Berlin in 1878. All the way to Constantinople and still lost!
Russia will even lose supporters from the ROw if it doesn’t start winning battles with blood and fire. Noone in the RoW will help Russia as it is. Noone likes a loser, so if Russia wants allies who will stick their necks out for them one day, Moscow better start winning.
You’re welcome.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Jan 7 2023 13:07 utc | 182

As someone else has said “Just the view from my knothole”.
Russia fears this; Putin fears that; Russia needs to…; “Russia will even lose supporters from the ROw if it doesn’t start winning battles with blood and fire. Noone in the RoW will help Russia as it is. Noone likes a loser, so if Russia wants allies who will stick their necks out for them one day, Moscow better start winning….” Brother Ma | Jan 7 2023 13:07 utc | 186
It is arrogant bigoted ignorance that attributes fear as a prime motivator for Russian choices and the subsequent military actions they justly perceive as having been left no choice and forced to take or cease to exist as a sovereign entity…
Russia acts from awareness; with strength of character & firm conviction of being right & just & now in possession of superior tools to accomplish what is necessary.
The hegemon blew it by refusing to accept that it is not a sole and unchallengeable power in the world anymore and must now respect the other members of the global village, either willingly or be literally forced to. The US and its vassal states and corrupt institutions are vainly destroying themselves fighting the actual reality. “Terror is US” Mafia tactics won’t pull either Ukraine nor NATO nor the US from the path of major change. Russian conviction is righteously steadfast.

Posted by: DoesItReallyMatter | Jan 7 2023 13:18 utc | 183

Meanwhile, ukraines defences in Solidar are collapsing. Verified footage, geo-located, show ukraine troops high tailing out of the town. The salt mines are also being taken by the Russians.
BAKMUT NEXT…

Posted by: HERMIUS | Jan 7 2023 13:40 utc | 184

This Ukraine thread about Cahuachi in Peru seems to be measured in nanoinches 🙂
Everything (no really, everything: mass, speed, distance, energy, color, sound, time, everything) is shorthand for Planck anyways (named after “Max Karl” (not to be confused with Karl Marx) 😀
(Peru looks beautiful and I hear the people are very nice).

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jan 7 2023 13:50 utc | 185

Those who claim Fahrenheit is a “finer gradation scale” seem unaware of the fact that Celsius is entirely capable of employing decimals. As is Fahrenheit. Both gradations are equally and infinitely fine except to those who can’t handle numbers on the right side of a decimal point.
For that matter, I’ve never encountered anyone who could feel the difference between, say, 86 and 87 degrees Fahrenheit.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 7 2023 14:04 utc | 186

Today’s clown world, the quisling is now nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/46298

🇳🇴🏴‍☠️🤡 Norwegian deputy nominates NATO Secretary General for Nobel Peace Prize
“Stoltenberg deserves an award for his outstanding work as NATO Secretary General at a difficult time,” Tybring-Gjedde wrote, emphasizing the importance of Stoltenberg providing support for Ukraine with weapons from the countries of the alliance.

Simply grotesque, in-your-face provocative

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 7 2023 14:07 utc | 187

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 7 2023 14:04 utc | 190
Pointing out about decimal places and non superiority of Fahrenheit scale is just oppressive and sign of white privilege. It is definitely against US curriculum and US exceptionalism.

Posted by: Abe | Jan 7 2023 14:10 utc | 188

In 2018 and 2020 he put forward U.S. President Donald Trump as a candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize; any member of parliament may propose candidates…………….Tybring-Gjedde was a civil servant in the Ministry of Defence before he entered politics.
FLAKE

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jan 7 2023 14:13 utc | 189

@Brother Ma | Jan 7 2023 13:07 utc | 186

Gerasimov,Shoigu and even Surovitkin are all morons , and I don’t care what people say about their brains.

You just said something about their brains and why we should not care.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 7 2023 14:19 utc | 190

@malenkov | Jan 7 2023 14:04 utc | 190

Those who claim Fahrenheit is a “finer gradation scale” seem unaware of the fact that Celsius is entirely capable of employing decimals. As is Fahrenheit. Both gradations are equally and infinitely fine except to those who can’t handle numbers on the right side of a decimal point.

Lol, perfectly stated. I was considering something like that, but you said it better.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 7 2023 14:23 utc | 191

karlof1 | Jan 7 2023 5:20 utc | 122
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Thanks for Dimitri Medvedev’s statements. Yes, perhaps his tongue is loosened by spirits and partly by Spirit. Funny, apart from the martial part, his message reminds me of accounts of Jesus Christ’s words to the High Priests and Pharisees, the elite Jews of his time. No sugarcoating.
Medvedev to the US Swamp Dept, described as “primal freaks [at] the height of cynicism and the limit of moral degradation…” 
“…This is extreme cynicism in the best traditions of the Nazis. Yes, in fact, the sons of bitches who carry such nonsense are the real heirs of Reich Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels. Only this stillborn delirium no longer affects anyone. And you will not get the answer to it in the office silence…
“The main gift for the New Year with ammunition of Zircon missiles went yesterday to the shores of NATO countries. 1000 km of the range of their use with hypersound in Mach 9 and the ability to use any charge with a guarantee overcome any missile defense. Let it stand about 100 miles from the shore, closer to the Potomac River. So rejoice!
It will bring to [eternal?] life anyone who poses a direct threat to Russia and our allies.
“You and your henchmen who kill our people will never be forgiven. We will speak to you in the language of force, since you do not understand otherwise. And to produce even more modern weapons. Hammer them on the Nazi carrion that you spawned in the twenty-first century. To avenge every criminal for every murdered citizen of our country.”

Yikes!

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jan 7 2023 14:23 utc | 192

CC @ 11 asked; “If the Russophiles are correct then how would the NATO-ites explain it?”
Then we would have to say that all reliable intel has been wrong all along. Wich it isnt. The same question gors back, if there is no glorious russian offensive with undetected logistics and so on, what will the russophiles say except howl for genocide?

Posted by: Fnord73 | Jan 7 2023 14:25 utc | 193

@Doug Hillman | Jan 7 2023 14:23 utc | 196
Martyanov today showed some interesting maps of how the Zircons make a geopolitical difference
Zircon And Other Military Toys.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 7 2023 14:29 utc | 194

Fnord73 | 7. Januar 2023 14:25
Who did you want to tell you what?

Posted by: Pierre | Jan 7 2023 14:33 utc | 195

Posted by: HERMIUS | Jan 7 2023 13:40 utc | 188
I hope what you say is true, however Soledar , I am told , has the largest salt cavern or natural hole in Europe , if not the world. Plenty of places to build Mariupol – like rat-nests.
Unless the Russians can kill or neutralise those Ukros ,or pretend -Ukros in Soledar/Bakmut , as I say above , it will be a long hard slog ,just as Mariupol was. If it goes like the latter, there will be no new offensive by Russia for donkey’s years. Plenty of time for the NATO-ite idle hands to do the Devil’s work.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soledar_Salt_Mine

Posted by: Brother Ma | Jan 7 2023 14:33 utc | 196

Likklemore | Jan 7 2023 3:37 utc | 96, 101, 112
I heartily back up Uncle Tungsten in his praise. It is a must read.
waynorinorway | Jan 7 2023 7:52 utc | 136
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Second that!

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jan 7 2023 14:40 utc | 197

Martyanov today showed some interesting maps of how the Zircons make a geopolitical difference.”
Norwegian | Jan 7 2023 14:29 utc | 198
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Thank you for the link.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jan 7 2023 14:44 utc | 198

Posted by: DoesItReallyMatter | Jan 7 2023 13:18 utc | 187
Russian fear?
I didn’t ascribe fear to the Russians in general , although it may in fact also be fear that is determining Russian moves; fear of Nato conventional war escalation, fear of Nuclear war, fear of losing the economic war via embargoes. We will see what happens.
I simply said I perceived fear on the faces of both Gerasimov and Shoigu, but I could be wrong. Maybe I am not used to reading Russian “poker -faces” . Who knows?
You will note that I ascribe stupidity to the Russians so far , and believe that this is the limiting – step . I am not wedded to my position , and if I see what I believe are actions that likely mean final winning by the Russians I will say so.
A stalemate or peace treaty without total control of the Ukraine is not winning in my book. That would mean you have lost Finland, Sweden and Switzerland as supposed neutrals , have damaged your economy and would still have NATO real weapons of mass destruction even closer to Russia than you had them before Feb 23 rd , 2022. You need total emasculation of all of the Ukraine as a bare win .
Russia needs a “Treaty of San Stefano” , and not a “Treaty of Berlin.”

Posted by: Brother Ma | Jan 7 2023 14:52 utc | 199

After sending the elderly Ukraine is now sending ever more kids, what a disgraceful/depressing end for this 💩 state. To think that in the 1960s-1970s Ukraine was more industrialized than Germany,and (despite what American anti soviet propaganda may claim) more developed than most of Europe. The USSR made one too many mistakes, first carved up Russia into statelets, including the cancer that is Ukraine (unlike China that only granted regions a certain autonomy), second, failed to denazify Galicia, that along with a series of other mistakes led to this. Even so, All this could have been avoided, if Gorbachev had been shot in 1985. Russia has been led by either naive/incompetent , corrupt or westernized traitors for over 40 years. Gorbachev and the Soviet politburo(oligarchy ) sold the country out and gave the world on a silver plate for the west to corrupt/exploit. Soviet economy (GDP ppp) had reached over 60% of america’s in the early 1970s, with a growth of 5-6% year during the 1960s . What Russia has achieved until now (other than in agriculture) is barely recovering what they once had. Kazakhstan 🇰🇿 Is now richer than Russia, surpassing Russia in GDP per capita and HDI . must be humiliating for the Russians who used to look down on central Asian republics. With a declining population (needing hundred thousands of migrants just not to fall) only a miracle could turn Russia into a (economic) superpower

Posted by: Phariah | Jan 7 2023 14:52 utc | 200