Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
January 10, 2023
Ukraine And Russia Agree – Russia Is Fighting NATO

Russia and Ukraine have publicly agreed on a fundamental and important issue.

The question is who Russia is fighting in Ukraine.

During an interview with a Ukrainian TV station the Oleksii Reznikov, the defense minister of Ukraine, answered that the Ukraine has "already become a de facto member of the NATO alliance."


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The interview, given four days ago, is available on Youtube. English language subtitles can be generated by autotranslate. The sentence pictured above comes at about 1:25 minutes in.

Sputnik, which seems to be the only international outlet that has picked up on this, has more (from ~11:05 min):

“At the NATO Summit in Madrid” in June 2022, “it was clearly delineated that over the coming decade, the main threat to the alliance would be the Russian Federation. Today Ukraine is eliminating this threat. We are carrying out NATO’s mission today. They aren’t shedding their blood. We’re shedding ours. That’s why they’re required to supply us with weapons,” Reznikov said …

The official said Kiev was being constantly reminded by its “Western partners” that it, “like a real shield, is defending the entire civilized world, the entire West,” from the Russians, and said that he personally has recently received holiday greeting cards and text messages from Western defense ministers to that effect.

Reznikov expressed “absolute” certainty in Ukraine’s eventual entry into NATO, saying he was “convinced that this is an absolutely realistic possibility… Of course they won’t accept this political decision via consensus before our victory. This is clear. But after the victory, after all this ends and some kind of peace arrives, NATO countries, first and foremost, will be interested in the construction of this security architecture. They have seen their own weak spots, they have seen who is strong and powerful. Today they are teaching us but tomorrow our officers, sergeants and even privates will be teaching them how to fight the Russians. Russia remains one of the threats to NATO, and for Europe as a whole.”

Reuters reports today that the Russian government agrees with the core of Reznikov's view:

Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev is seen by diplomats as one of the major hardline influences on Putin, who has promised victory in Ukraine despite a series of battlefield setbacks.

"The events in Ukraine are not a clash between Moscow and Kyiv – this is a military confrontation between Russia and NATO, and above all the United States and Britain," Patrushev told the Argumenti i Fakti newspaper in an interview.

"The Westerners' plans are to continue to pull Russia apart, and eventually just erase it from the political map of the world," Patrushev said.

Asked about Patrushev's remarks, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said NATO and the United States were part of the Ukraine conflict.

"De facto they have already become an indirect party to this conflict, pumping Ukraine with weapons, technologies, intelligence information and so on," Peskov told a regular news briefing.

As both sides now seem to agree on the real participants of the conflict we can assume that they will later also come to an agreement about its outcome. That however will still take a while.

The heavily fortified Ukrainian strongholds in Bahkmut (Artyomovsk) and Soledar are about to fall. The long fight over these cities has come at a high price particularly for their defenders. All the reserves the Ukrainian command has thrown into them have been ground up by massive Russian artillery applications.

Other reserves the Ukrainian army is still training up are waiting for new supplies of 'western' weapons. But what has been newly promised, mostly infantry fighting vehicles (aluminum cans), will only become available in late spring. The most likely plan the Ukrainian command will want to pursue is a move south towards Mariupol (bottom right) to severe the Russian land connection to Crimea.


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There is however only a small chance that such a move during spring could be successful. Until then Russia has the time to make its own moves.

Comments

Posted by: catdog | Jan 10 2023 16:19 utc | 10
Things seem to be turning around as the months of accrued damage on UA’s military and infrastructure finally starts showing results. The collapse on the Blackmutt front is happening quickly. Pro-UA accounts are becoming hysterical. There is seething about the immediate need for western tanks. Even the official UA twitters are whining about needing tanks. And I’m feeling a shift in attitudes by Western glowies. The military aid they’re “considering” is either unrealistic (any significant number of Challengers or Leclercs) or too small-scale to make a difference (realistically 10-20 Challengers or Leclercs at best). I don’t think that NATO will totally cut the war loose, but they’ll stop denuding their armies and fund a guerrilla or terrorist war instead of a conventional one, if things keep looking bad for Keev.
That’s interesting. The continued existence of green shirt and some sort of government precludes this (mostly). Maybe his time will be up soon? A Somalia on your border is a different proposition.

Posted by: Teal | Jan 10 2023 19:59 utc | 101

According to Komsomolskaya Pravda Russian entrepreneurs have started an ‘auction’ for Russian soldiers that will make the first of them who is able to burn down a Bradley US infantry fighting vehicle rich: https://www.kp.ru/daily/27450/4704309/

Posted by: Oblomovka daydream | Jan 10 2023 20:03 utc | 102

My observations is this…after the Maidan it was obvious a conflict was coming and Ukraine built massive in depth defensive positions in the Donbas but also sent a large force that started preliminary artillery barrages on the DMZ on or about the 20th of February… Russia went in lightly on the 24th. The NATO instructors where teaching counter insurgency tactics and had heavy emphasis on close range antitank weapons and their use. I suspect NATO expected intervention but a traditional deep penetration with tank Armies. Months later when the true situation was ascertained…then the U.S and Canada sent their armour to the ports to be sent to Europe. Now here is where I digress from traditional thought in the matter…in 2019 in the middle of a massive trade war and the very real threat if losing Hong Kong to internal strife…videos started emerging from China of the population dropping dead in the streets…then the WHO changed their definition of Pandemic…then the WHO initiated actions that made all member nations adopt pandemic response protocols and the rest is history….Fauci told Trump the COVID was no worse than a flu and then the trap was set for the administration…the COVID numbers needed where false positives from the PCR test that was being run at such a high cycle threshold that any sample would register a false positive. Now bare in mind that the samples that PCR test was calibrated on came from the Chinese. So U.S regime change and economic attack on the West was carried out by the CCP and carried aloft by the WEF and the other leftist globalist who saw this as a means to their ends…. recalibrated economy with digital currency tied into digital ID/vaccination chip and a powerful centralized State controlling Every aspect of each citizens life through technology and abolition of private property. I suspect China who by the way historically starved every Grand solar minimum solar cycle….a mini ice age that happens every few hundred years…that started a few months ago…has been promised living space in Russia by the Globalists and as a result….Russia is keeping a massive reserve held in reserve for this eventuality. Now…the 1000 Abrams are sitting in Romania…enough to outfit 3 or 4 divisions and Poland is mobilizing for a thrust East.. ostensibly to take Western Ukraine…but I suspect a U.S prong will take Odessa while China? I suspect the next stage of the PSYOP biological warfare is unfolding now…. China in the midst of another outbreak that is overwhelming their infrastructure is now encouraging Chinese travel overseas…the shutdown will hide the fact they are switching to wartime production and here we go. The ultimate goal of the Western globalists and the Communists is the very same

Posted by: Joe | Jan 10 2023 20:14 utc | 103

So until about yesterday – as a result of comments here I think – I was under the impression that there were two wars. First was a shooting war where people die and stuff gets broken. Second is an economic war where the participants vie for position in a new and emerging geo-political multi-polar framework.
I now think I may have over simplified this, or perhaps over complicated it?
The real war is the second – ie an attempt to either retain or overturn a uni-polar world based on the U$D.
I have I perhaps made the mistake of thinking that the west was trying to win the shooting bit of this war. I’m beginning to consider that this was wrong as Russia was never likely to lose.
I’m maybe thinking now the goal is regime change catalysed by the shooting war, and perceived and heralded reverses suffered by Russia and its regime. So whilst I – and many others – have been disdainful of Ukraine winning the “Twitter War” and losing the “Real War” – in fact this might have been the plan all along. Regime change.
The shooting war is being won by the Russians, the media and propaganda war by the West.
Or so it looks to me, though I accept the statement is arguable. I’d refine that. The West is able to keep its propaganda and news management at an even pitch so the western public will accept [some] level of hardship to support the Ukrainians. I’m not so sure it is working elsewhere, let alone Russia itself. But it does not stop the West trying very hard to fight a war on its terms ie without having to spend money on tanks, guns, shells etc. Or risk MAD. Keyboard warriors.
However if you accept this thesis, even if partially, then you need to look at the “news” with a filter that it is not just BS but deliberately so to try to win the media war, and thus overturn the Putin regime. And in doing this you might see desperation creeping in. But this media war cannot technically be lost I think, unless Ukraine suffers a massive and near total defeat, and at a scale which cannot be massaged by a tame MSM and big tech.
So that would be my prediction for Russia’s war aims just now. War war, not jaw jaw.

Posted by: marcjf | Jan 10 2023 20:16 utc | 104

Bernd @12
Since when is this about “Nato giving aid”? No, it is about US posing as “Nato” being a direct belligerent and the fact of the Ukraine being a de facto member of Nato, with one of the most formidable Naro armies. As publicly admitted by the players themselves.
Then, it’s not about “NATO giving a few percentage points of their 1980s surplus weapons to Ukraine” but happily eating into its own stocks of current weaponry to the point of some members remaining without their essential inventory. And yes, this is the most corrupt country in Europe and Western armaments that do not get sold get destroyed in the field — if you see a sign of “struggling” by Russia to do that, please share it with us.
Also, you obviously did not misunderstand; you learned your distorsion lesson well but neglected the verbiage nowadays necessary to cover your tracks.

Posted by: Piero Colombo | Jan 10 2023 20:21 utc | 105

Vikichka @ 94

But when they fight with Ukrainian troops and soviet weapons on Ukrainian territory and claim they are fighting NATOs war, then they are either not particularly bright, or they are lying.

The are very much lying, the rich and connected there well know the score, the poor in the trenches are inchoate but they have an inkling. Like the barbarians hired by the late Roman Empire to do their killing the ex-Warsaw Pact baby vassals were promised first dibs at the sacking and pillaging of Russia after its defeat. They would grow big and powerful to take the place of the duplicitous and soon forlorn Vassals of western Europe, the Emperor’s new entrusted henchmen for the march to global domination. (And, this is why Macron, Schulz, Meloni fawn at the Emperor’s every idiocy, trying to get back in favor to avoid banishment and relegation into hinterlands.)
The Eastern EU oligarchs, pols and bureaucrats were to be made the Viceroys of the carved up RF lands. It was a plan designed by the Overlord all Powerful, the Padishah Emperor of the Known Universe with 15 aircraft carriers, who decreed – all in, no expense spared, 110% can’t fail, no option but success, premium guarantee. A Super Powerball lottery ticket rigged to win, cooked up just for you! What greedy two dimensional dumbass motherfucker, rich or poor, wouldn’t jump for that?

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jan 10 2023 20:32 utc | 106

@Augustus Caesar
absolutely. It’s why you see EU flags in the background quite often when the Kiev regime gives a press conference (without any EU representatives present). Always makes me laugh. These filth wish they were a part of the EU/NATO even though the EU/NATO themselves view Ukraine as a mere battering ram proxy in which to damage Russia.

Posted by: Nick | Jan 10 2023 20:34 utc | 107

It’s been the Empire of Lies vs Humanity ever since my birth…. and long, long before then.

Posted by: majoab | Jan 10 2023 20:43 utc | 108

Garland Nixon addresses this topic in his most recent podcast, “Biden’s Neocons Facing Foreign Policy Meltdown”
https://youtu.be/789HKXyECmE
No amount of censorship, PR narrative or mockingbird propagandists can hide the US is not post WW2 industrial manufacturing powerhouse with jobs for all. Today it can’t even be considered a developing country. Rather, the US is a declining third world shithole. Garland tours the tent cities across America, where human beings are literally starving and dying in the streets. America can’t even save itself, much less fight Russia or China. Russia is revealing to the world that Emperor NATO has no clothes.

Posted by: Willow | Jan 10 2023 20:44 utc | 109

Re: Capitalist boogeyman
We have not had a free-market in this country since the advent of the Federal Reserve and this point was driven home further with the collapse of the Bretton Woods System in the 1970s.
The Soviet Union would not have survived without western capitalist investment in the 1930s and then lend-lease during the midnight hour to turn the tide against the Germans.
Free-market Capitalism is not at loggerheads with regulatory agencies that go after monopolies (indeed, free-market implies non-preference), but the problem lies inherently with centralization which allows, similarly to how the U.S. manages which drug cartels it can work with, the government to funnel the necessary winners into power-broker positions.
Communists will say that this is baked-into-the-cake vis-a-vis capitalism, but the problem of centralization of economies is most acute in communism, itself.
It is almost as if the U.S. has been infiltrated by crypto-communists, where its growth of centralized-control will lead to a moment of acute crisis where the communists can reveal their hand fully in the hope of seizing control.
This will be in the form of a CBDC (central-bank, digital-currency) which is on deck for the U.S. by the end of this year.
The supreme irony, in these horrifically-ironic times, is that “the east,” that bastion of alleged communism, stands in stark opposition with its commodity-based BRIC (South Africa is a dead-man walking save its precious metals industry) system to the centralized FED-coin, which has absolutely nothing to do with natural value-seeking that the free-market can deliver.
It’s an inverted world. And you and I are just living in it.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 10 2023 20:45 utc | 110

@oldhippie
I’ve had this feeling a few times where I think you are living in a location that is bad for you. Not disagreeing with your views on anything, and I’m sure there are many reasons to stay – but you could probably find somewhere to live that isn’t some sort of tragic symbol of everything you hate. Or at least a holiday near a healthier forest… the beautiful green planet is large.

Posted by: Rae | Jan 10 2023 20:52 utc | 111

“De facto” NATO has been claimed by Zelensky earlier.
In applying for accelerated NATO membership some time ago, he stressed that Ukraine was already de facto a member, it was just some paperwork to confirm it “de jure”.

Posted by: Webej | Jan 10 2023 20:53 utc | 112

Putin is an idiot. I have been saying this for an entire decade in every possible forum and I have taken a lot of flak for it but to this day nobody has proven I was wrong and the evidence in that regard keeps mounting with every single day that passes. In feb, 24 2022, as soon as I heard the news of his invasion of Ukraine the first thought coming to my mind was, “Here we are, at the beginning of ww3. Maybe this guy doesn’t realise it but that is how world wars start, when someone invades someone else’s land in Eastern Europe. And there is no way NATO will stay out of it so before we know it this will be Russia vs NATO”. That is the conclusion I came to as soon as I heard the news and if it took for Putin almost a year to realise. And if he knew it from before it is even worse.
And I don’t believe for a moment than nonsense that Putin fans keep peddling around, that he knew in 2014 that it would come to this, and that “Russia needed the time to prepare” because if that is the case he is even more stupid that I thought. When you are a Russian leader and you are sure you will be at war with NATO in the future THE MOST BASIC caution makes you to try to keep NATO as far as possible from your borders to prevent a repeat of June 1941. Yet for Mister Putin that didn’t even seem to be a concern at all in that February of 2014 AS FAR MORE IMPORTANT FOR HIM THAN SENDING ALL THE MILITARY HARDWARE YANUKOVIC NEEDED TO CRUSH THE COUP, WAS TO LOOK GOOD FOR HIS “WESTERN PARTNERS” IN SOCHI WHILE NATO WAS WINNING A CRUCIAL STRATEGIC POSITION PREPARING FOR THIS WAR, RIGHT ON THE RUSSIAN BORDER. So the man comes out as a complete idiot either way,

Posted by: gatobart | Jan 10 2023 20:53 utc | 113

I suspect China who by the way historically starved every Grand solar minimum solar cycle….a mini ice age that happens every few hundred years…that started a few months ago…
Posted by: Joe | Jan 10 2023 20:14 utc | 103

Ahhh no… there is no Grand Solar Minimum this cycle (Sunspot Cycle 25), which started in Sept 2020. There has been a higher than normal uptick in the sunspot activity which suggests this cycle will likely be warmer than the last.
https://www.sciencealert.com/the-sun-is-way-more-active-than-official-solar-weather-predictions

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 10 2023 20:55 utc | 114

Norwegian | Jan 10 2023 19:28 utc | 90

Maybe you are an ideologue? The climate varies in periods of 60+ years and most people just experience one up or down turn of the sine curve.

Maybe you are a climate denier?
CO2 concentration in the athmosphere has risen from 280 ppm in preindustrial time to 420 ppm recently. This was a steady increase, almost linear, certainly not part of a cyclic process. And, yes, the CO2 level does have a strong impact on temperature.

Posted by: grunzt | Jan 10 2023 20:55 utc | 115

I suspect China who by the way historically starved every Grand solar minimum solar cycle….a mini ice age that happens every few hundred years…that started a few months ago…
Posted by: Joe | Jan 10 2023 20:14 utc | 103

Ahhh no… there will be no Grand Solar Minimum this cycle, in spite of the prophets of doom. The latest Solar Cycle 25 which began in Sept 2020, had a more rapid uptick in sun spot activity which suggests a warmer than average period.
https://www.sciencealert.com/the-sun-is-way-more-active-than-official-solar-weather-predictions

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 10 2023 21:01 utc | 116

Maybe you are a climate denier?
@ grunzt | Jan 10 2023 20:55 utc | 115
If so, the correspondent is certainly not alone, around here. I’m continually disappointed, but not surprised, by the dead weight of agnotology around here regarding anything to do with weather or climate. If you notice the weather, you’re noticing it’s been weird lately, and that subject is out-of-bounds, according to regnant agnotologists.
I’m a fan of an ancient, Bay-Area form of hip-hop called hyphee, where you hear “get stupid” pronounced as an aesthetic ideal. Who put that on the jukebox?

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jan 10 2023 21:06 utc | 117

@113 You must admit moving on Crimea was pretty smart. It must drive Nuland and Co crazy.

Posted by: dh | Jan 10 2023 21:09 utc | 118

karlof1 | Jan 10 2023 19:08 utc | 82
Thank you for the Patrushev interview. Note that MNC’s are doing what they normally do. Outsource production needs to cheaper locations. ie. Roumania is one, where ex-soviet ammunition can still be made (152 and 120mm -or 102mm?) in factories remaining from that era.
Although the headquarters of MNC’s are “repatriated” to the US and the financial aspects pass through willing havens, it might be wrong to think that ALL ammunition supplies would be made in the US. Leading to an underestimation of the speed of resupply of Ukraine. Even shells of modern artillery could be made seperately from the (now) electronic innards, and put together somewhere else.
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Second item from the interview – if taken literally, is that there is no desire to talk to politicians of any quality (already known attitude), but IF any agreement is to be made – it must be with the MNC’s and their owners first, or maybe imposed on them. Their greedy motivation of taking Russia to be the place to be looted, definitely fits within their framework and mentality.
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La Bastille | Jan 10 2023 19:22 utc | 87
Fascinating site. Thank you. Really clear breakdown of the close fighting between the two poles of Soledar and Bakhmut.
They think this is the start of the major push by Russia.
Note the Russian troops working closely in cohesion with Wagner to make the breakthrough across the minefields, and that the main Ukie defensive line is/was further east.

On Sunday morning, southeast of Soledar, Wagner’s fighters engaged the Ukrainian army in the town. Wagner’s move turned out to be a diversionary maneuver, during which several units of Russian parachute scouts from Yakovlivka, mounted on armored vehicles, managed to infiltrate the northern outskirts of Soledar, establishing a head of the bridge. Instead of advancing to link up with Wagner, the paratroopers’ mission was to neutralize the minefield on the east side of Soledar using UR-77 systems. Russian tanks and armored personnel carriers immediately entered the corridors laid out in the minefield. The Russian army operation surprised the enemy and was well planned and executed. As night fell, the 61st Assault Brigade began its withdrawal from Soledar to avoid encirclement

To watch closely.
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I also noticed earlier that several police stations in Kherson which were being used as troop rallying points (100 at a time), were flattened by the Russians. Clearly those troops were there to do a “sweep” of whomever remained in Kherson and send them to the front. (or worse). The Russians are keeping a very close eye on the area, as it could be the starting point for THEIR movements OR one by Ukraine towards Crimea/Kinburn spit.
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PS. I once had the idea that OPA’s by MNC’s, aggressive ones, were similar to Barons and Dukes in the middle ages going out to take control over others territorial assets by beating the hell out of other landowners. Do we now have modern feudalism? The “Private” armies do exist, and the role of clergy and nobility have been superseded by the politicians and CEO’s respectively?

Posted by: Stonebird | Jan 10 2023 21:12 utc | 119

FM Lavrov on ‘the [optional] rules’ examined:
https://johnmenadue.com/rules-based-international-order-what-rules-whose-rules/

Posted by: Paul GV | Jan 10 2023 21:13 utc | 120

@90
People who play with cycles pull any cycle of any period out of their ass as it suits them.
Trees. Many of them could care less about cycles of 60 years. Go look at your neighborhood yew thats thousands of years old. Oh, you can’t. Gone. Of course we have already established you can’t see a thing that is in front of your eyes. Reality is verbal. Reality is reduced to verbal argument.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 10 2023 21:28 utc | 121

Translated:

Summary by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine (10.01.2023)
💥 In the Kupyansk direction, Russian troops launched artillery strikes on accumulations of the 14th mechanized brigade of the AFU in the areas of Timkovka and Ivanovka, Kharkiv region. Up to 20 Ukrainian servicemen, an armored fighting vehicle and four vehicles were destroyed.
💥 In the Krasno-Limansky direction, artillery fire hit units of the 95th Airborne Assault Brigade of the AFU and the 103rd Territorial Defense Brigade in the areas of Serebryanka in the Donetsk People’s Republic and Stelmakhovka in the Luhansk People’s Republic. The enemy’s losses in the day in this direction amounted to more than 40 Ukrainian soldiers killed and wounded, an armored personnel carrier and three pickup trucks.
💥 In the Donetsk direction in the course of successful offensive actions Russian troops defeated units of the 57th and 59th motorized infantry brigades of the AFU. Up to 50 Ukrainian servicemen, one tank, two armored fighting vehicles and four vehicles were destroyed.
💥 In the South Donetsk direction, more than 20 Ukrainian servicemen and three pickup trucks were destroyed as a result of a complex shelling of enemy units in the areas of Prechistovka and Zolotaya Niva settlements of the Donetsk People’s Republic.
💥 Strikes by tactical and army aviation, rocket and artillery forces hit two rocket and artillery weapons depots of the 53rd AFU Mechanized Brigade and 108th Territorial Defense Brigade near the settlements of Konstantinovka in Donetsk People’s Republic and the town of Orekhov in Zaporizhzhia region, as well as 62 AFU artillery units in firing positions, live personnel and military equipment in 105 areas.
◽️ In the course of the counterbattery fight during the day destroyed in firing positions: two US-made M777 artillery systems in the areas of Seversk and Avdeevka settlements of the Donetsk People’s Republic; four Polish-made Krab self-propelled artillery systems in the areas of Avdeevka, Seversk and Zvanovka settlements of the Donetsk People’s Republic; Three D-20 towed howitzers in the areas of Nevske, Novolyubovka in the Luhansk People’s Republic and Shalyhyno in the Sumy region; two Grad multiple rocket launchers in the settlements of Artemovsk and Konstantinovka in the Donetsk People’s Republic, as well as an Uragan multiple rocket launcher in the city of Seversk. In addition, two US-made AN/TPQ-50 and AN/TPQ-36 counter-battery radar stations were destroyed near Artemovsk and Dzerzhinsk settlements of the Donetsk People’s Republic.
💥 Fighter aircraft of the Russian Air Force shot down three Su-25 aircraft of the air forces of Ukraine in the areas of Yasenovoye, Pushkino and Maksimilianovka of the Donetsk People’s Republic.
◽️ Ten Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles were destroyed by air defence forces in the areas of Ploshchanka, Oborotnovka, Podkuychansk, Chervonopopovka, Holikovo, Zhytlovka and Kreminna of the Luhansk People’s Republic and Valeryanovka, Volnovakha and Yevgenovka of the Donetsk People’s Republic during the day.
📊 In total, since the beginning of the special military operation destroyed ((+?) over preceding 24hrs):
370(+3) aircraft,
200 helicopters,
2,866(+10) unmanned aerial vehicles,
400 surface-to-air missile systems, (Each AD Radar destroyed, no(Soviet pre ’91) spares/replacements, effectively: Unclaimed Kills)
7,465(+5) tanks and other armored combat vehicles,
975(+3) multiple rocket launcher combat vehicles,
3,802(+9) field artillery guns and mortars, and
7,992(+14) pieces of special military vehicle equipment.

Comment:
Aggressive targeted destruction of AFU indirect fire assets continues.
AFU ‘ISIS Technicals’/Pickup trucks & EU 4WD/SUVs are steadily outnumbering AFUs available AFVs on the battlefield.
RuAF fast mover/attack helo CAS continue ranging freely along the FEBA.
@ NSDAP-Calling | Jan 10 2023 20:45 utc | 110

The Soviet Union would not have survived without western capitalist investment in the 1930s and then lend-lease during the midnight hour to turn the tide against the Germans.

Persistently consistent with a twisted slanted incomplete half-truth followed by a trope propaganda falsehood.
RuAF Engels ground-crew succinctly summated with tarmac graffiti,”ALL Nazi’s must Die!.” Onboard with that ?

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 10 2023 21:30 utc | 122

About the situation in Soledar as of the evening of January 10,2023 :
Most of the city, including the administrative buildings in the center, is controlled by the Wagner PMC assault groups. Pushilin has already announced the liberation of the center of Soledar (though it still needs to be cleaned up there).
2. Yurchina Mountain, which dominates the terrain near the northern outskirts of the city, has also been taken. This makes it difficult for small, scattered groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to withdraw from the city.
The main roads out of Soledar are under the fire control of our troops, which allows us to speak of an operational encirclement.
4. According to various estimates, 300 to 500 Ukrainian soldiers and officers remain in the city, either covering the withdrawal of the main forces or having not had time to withdraw from the central areas, where mopping-up is now underway.
5. In the city itself, the Ukrainians still remain at the Sol station, at mine number 7, in the northwesterly part of the city and the western suburbs.
6. The enemy is now building a line of defense on the line of Blagodatnoe, Sol station, Razdolovka, and Veseloe.
7. After completing the mop-up of Soledar (a matter of the next few days), Russian troops will either begin stepping up attacks north of Artemovsk (which is also on the brink) or they will strike in the direction of Seversk.
8. Ukrainian propaganda is already in full swing about the “unimportance of Soledar,” although until recently it was positioned as a fortress. It is worth noting that on the territory of Soledar there is the largest salt production facility in Europe, as well as the largest small arms depots in Ukraine in the village of Paraskoveyevka, adjacent to Soledar (as of 2014, there were over 2.1 million pieces of small arms storage).
9. In response to the loss of Soledar, Zelensky stripped Medvedchuk and a number of other former regionalists of their Ukrainian citizenship. a blow of unprecedented force. What next? After the surrender of Artemovsk, will another case be opened against Yanukovych?
10. Overall, this is the first serious victory for our forces since the retreat from the right bank. But for now, it is too early to throw hats; the city still needs to be cleaned up, and the really big victory will be the liberation of Artemovsk, which is of operational and strategic importance to the entire Donbass Front.
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According to military analyst Yuri Podolyaka :
An ultimatum was issued to the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrounded in Soledar to surrender by 00.00 on 11.01.23.

Posted by: Soledar | Jan 10 2023 21:34 utc | 123

Does anyone have an opinion on why the U.S. hasn’t shipped Abrahms main battle tanks to Ukraine yet? #23.
It has been discussed, likely Zero Hedge, my also must read.
Heavy tanks are not good in the mud, chew up the roads and last but not least, cannot go far without maintenance. Dutch training exercises require transporters and show about 10 miles between breakdowns.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jan 10 2023 21:40 utc | 124

Just in (Russkie audio)

Progjin announced full capture of Soledar !!! In the city 500 Nazis surrounded !!!

Bhakmut coming up …

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 10 2023 21:40 utc | 125

Peter AU1 @100–
Thanks for your reply. Finian Cunnigham yesterday wrote:
“At that rate, it’s only a matter of time before the same NATO powers announce the despatch of main battle tanks. The Kiev regime and its Polish and Baltic allies are demanding Washington and Berlin send in Abrams and Leopards. Both Biden and Scholz are saying that will not happen. But past form suggests there is a cynical and deliberate stealth approach going on where actions blatantly contradict rhetoric.
“Tanks are evidently part of an offensive force. They would also require trained crews to operate them. That indicates the NATO powers are providing personnel, maintenance crews and other logistics to deploy these sophisticated machines. The coordination between Washington, Berlin and Paris also signals that NATO is deploying in a systematic and interoperable manner. Thus, the proxy war is going from a piecemeal approach of individual NATO members furnishing the Kiev regime on a bilateral basis to a whole new level of organizational participation.” [My Emphasis]
I can only see one explanation for this “piecemeal approach”–The Criminal NATO elites involved in this crime know Western publics would never agree to going to war against Russia. So as with the frog in the pot, those publics are being drawn into a full-blown war slowly for that’s the only possible approach. As Crooke explained, the Eastern/New Europe Russophobes plus the Outlaw US Empire have captured EU/NATO policy making and have always wanted full-scale war as somehow they believe they won’t be harmed. When reviewing events since 2014 and even before then, that’s what is seen, which is why Crooke continues to explain it for his readers. And as those of us who know the history understand, this was the plan since 1989-90 (and well before that as the archives prove).
So, does Russia see the same thing; and if so, what are its plans? What’s the terrain like West of Kiev? What will Moldova’s fate be? Will NATO act in Serbia first? Will Russia act to interdict shipments of MBTs from the Outlaw US Empire as well as other logistical supplies? And there are more questions to be sure. But then there’s also the Big Picture. Does Russia need the RoW to clearly see the Outlaw US Empire’s attempt to wage direct hot war on Russia to accomplish Big Picture goals that aim to disarm the Empire? And finally, what will Russia do with NATO lackeys after it defeats NATO in great detail, particularly Poland and the Baltics plus Finland and Sweden? The big question being Germany, of course; France and Italy not nearly as much. The situation was very different after Napoleon’s defeat. Denazifying Europe is clearly needed, but is it possible, or will its remnants stay hidden away–again–only to be revived sometime in the future?

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2023 21:41 utc | 126

A lot of comment about Western tanks and their supposed superiority. This may or may be not true at the high end but these assumptions rest on comparing equally competent crews and maintenance support. It takes a long time to train competent crews and even then there is still the matter of ‘battle hardness’ which comes with combat experience. It should not be forgotten how much Germany accomplished with inferior tanks but well trained and hardened crews in the battles of 1939 through 1941. That said (as others have observed) no tank can survive long without infantry support, which fact Israel was reminded of in 2006 when its famous Merkavas were trapped in unfavourable terrain and (from many accounts) the Russians have also rediscovered these last 10 months.

Posted by: Raumati | Jan 10 2023 21:52 utc | 127

@ grunzt | 115
“Climate denier” – nice way to avoid actual discussion. How about some actual info?

Precision research by physicists William Happer and William van Wijngaarden has determined that the present levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide and water vapor are almost completely saturated. In radiation physics the technical term “saturated” implies that adding more molecules will not cause more warming.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/10/26/study-suggests-no-more-co2-warming/
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/10/20/2001-2019-warming-driven-by-increases-in-absorbed-solar-radiation-not-human-emissions/
This means that approximately 100% of infrared radiation is already trapped and the CO2 concentration can double or triple or whatever and it simply cant capture more than 100%.
CO2 is an ESSENTIAL plant nutrient. What about the 1700ppm level during the Cretaceous period when the Earth was more green and supportive of life than it perhaps has ever been.
https://infogalactic.com/info/Cretaceous
It is very interesting that ions are formed by cosmic / galactic radiation interacting with the atmosphere; like in a cloud chamber. These ions are condensation nuclei for clouds and the clouds are reflectors of solar heat and thereby generate a cooling effect via higher albedo. So, when the Sun is less magnetically active the Earth is not sheathed by solar wind in the same way whereby charged cosmic radiation particles are magnetically trapped and routed, by the Van Allen Belts and such, and then grounded largely at the poles as we observe with auroras.
When the Sun is less active, the charged particles get through, more cloud cover forms, and the Earth experiences ice ages; one of which we are currently in the interglacial period of.
https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/how-does-sun-affect-our-climate

The hypothesis in a nutshell
Cosmic rays, high-energy particles raining down from exploded stars, knock electrons out of air molecules. This produces ions, that is, positive and negative molecules in the atmosphere.
The ions help aerosols — clusters of mainly sulphuric acid and water molecules — to form and become stable against evaporation. This process is called nucleation. The small aerosols need to grow nearly a million times in mass in order to have an effect on clouds.
The second role of ions is that they accelerate the growth of the small aerosols into cloud condensation nuclei — seeds on which liquid water droplets form to make clouds. The more ions the more aerosols become cloud condensation nuclei. It is this second property of ions which is the new result published in Nature Communications.
Low clouds made with liquid water droplets cool the Earth’s surface.
Variations in the Sun’s magnetic activity alter the influx of cosmic rays to the Earth.
When the Sun is lazy, magnetically speaking, there are more cosmic rays and more low clouds, and the world is cooler.
When the Sun is active fewer cosmic rays reach the Earth and, with fewer low clouds, the world warms up.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/12/171219091320.htm
Interestingly, with regard to air pollution, for many years low-sulfur diesel has been promoted and mandated; especially for shipping. Sulfur ions are particularly good at forming condensation nuclei. Now with less sulfur in the atmosphere – and someones getting paid for it – I have read Bill Gates has a project to add sulfur back to the atmosphere – and get paid for it – to make more clouds in Africa / etc,…
So, maybe the people you label as climate deniers are the ones actually caring, discerning, and paying attention – since they are not promoting a new market, financialization opportunity, industry or false moral high-ground.

Posted by: ABC | Jan 10 2023 21:56 utc | 128

The conviction that Ukraine / NATO are on a victory trajectory is widespread within the West’s MIC. This is promoting a sort of self-reinforcing hubris which is either bluster or delusion. One might hope it is the former after remarks by an American Marine general based in Japan to the Financial Times, as picked up by the WSWS:
US military “setting the theatre” for war with China
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/01/10/fads-j10.html
“Why have we achieved the level of success we’ve achieved in Ukraine?” Lieutenant General James Bierman asked rhetorically. A big part of it, he explained, was that after what he termed “Russian aggression” in 2014 and 2015, “we earnestly got after preparing for future conflict: training for the Ukrainians, pre-positioning of supplies, identification of sites from which we could operate support, sustain operations.”
“We call that setting the theatre. And we are setting the theatre in Japan, in the Philippines, in other locations.” In other words, the US is setting a trap for China by goading it into taking military action against Taiwan in the same way that it provoked Russia into invading Ukraine following the US-backed coup in 2014 that toppled a pro-Russian government.
– – – – – – –
The above plans and preparations have been moving rapidly in past few months, following the election of a more compliant government in the Philippines.

Posted by: jayc | Jan 10 2023 21:56 utc | 129

ON THE FRONT: Looks like Soledar north of Bakhmut is about to fall to the Russians.
This will place the Russian troops in a much better position to cut off Siversk to the north and to encircle Bakhmut to the south.
As the Ukrainians retreat, they will be able to put up new defensive lines. But these new lines will not be anything like what they had along the Bakhmut/Siversk line. These new lines will be much easier for the Russians to overcome and continue to move forward if they have proper strenght to do so. This may be the case.
We don’t know how fast or how slow the Russians are going to move after Soledar completely falls. I think with the recent build-ups of the Russian army in the Donbas, this move will be at least at moderate speed.
We may be looking at months now before the entire Donbas falls to Russia.
Whenever that happens, it gets really serious for the USA and NATO allies.

Posted by: young | Jan 10 2023 22:00 utc | 130

NATO itself is too cautious to announce their direct association with Ukraine as they are terrified of the day, soon to come, when defeat is absolute. Weasels always need an escape tunnel.
I guess NATO actually knew that a Ukraine victory was only ever an outside chance and they relied more on the NATO prejudice that Russia was an error prone force run by ossified and stupid Generals. They seem to have been proven wrong.
The NATO weaponry even in the hands of highly competent ‘mercenary’ operators has demonstrably failed to impress. Sure its been useful to shell civilians but militarily relevant only ever occasionally.
For NATO to survive, their proxy murderers in Ukraine need to capitulate asap but I doubt that will arise. With any luck the ignorance of NATO and its ineptitude will be dangled from Fortress Russia for another year or so. That way will represent an ignominious decline for the NATO global criminals and that is a just fate.
Good news from Soledar and soon from Bakhmut 🙂

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 10 2023 22:03 utc | 131

WASHINGTON (Sputnik) – The United States is reportedly struggling to supply Ukrainian troops with effective counterdrone systems to address the current modern aerial threat.
The US Defense Department promised the delivery of Vampire counterdrone systems to Ukraine in August, but only approved a $40 million contract for the weapon last month, press said in a report, citing Western officials and analysts.
The United States will not deliver the first four Vampire systems until mid-2023, with ten more units expected to arrive by year’s end, the Monday report said.
Ukraine needs hundreds of counterdrone systems around large cities, military facilities and infrastructure to meet the threat, Sam Bendett, a drone expert with the federally-funded Center for Naval Analyses said.
Vampire systems, short for Vehicle-Agnostic Modular Palletized ISR Rocket Equipment, tracks targets and intercepts them with laser-guided munitions. The counterdrone system is intended to fit in the back of a standard pickup truck, the report added.

Yet more ‘Technicals’ … one day …

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 10 2023 22:09 utc | 132

Soledar did fall.

Posted by: OohCanada | Jan 10 2023 22:11 utc | 133

Stonebird @119–
Thanks for your reply. On the MNCs, there clearly are some that are 100% enemies of Russia and Humanity–Soros fleet IMO is #1 followed by International BigLie Media conglomerates. IMO, most MNC CEOs would opt to make a deal to remain in existence, but I don’t see how their current mandate can be allowed to continue, for that’s where the threat lies. Same goes for Neoliberal formations like the FIRE sector; they must be turned into public utilities. Same with financial markets. They can continue to exist but must serve the public interest and thus also be made into public utilities. Corporations after all are merely a tool misshapen from the outset to serve private versus public interests, and they continue to work in that manner because their legal existence demands that; however, that can be altered very easily provided there’s political will. That will once existed at the public level within the Outlaw US Empire, but the system was already fixed, and its politicos already bought.
The new political-economic formations emerging from Eurasia will need to be the forces of change if they and humanity are to succeed. The Dollar Zone will exert its utmost to keep its dysfunctional privileges that even its publics see aren’t good for them. If there are 8 billion humans, then 1% is 80 million; but, are there really 80 million enemies of humanity, or is the actual number much lower–.1% or 8 million perhaps–or perhaps only .01%–800,000? How many working within the FIRE Sector are unaware of the damage to society they’re causing, or are they all in on the game? Clearly within the medical field there’re are plenty of Dr. Moreaus and Dr. Frankensteins.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2023 22:12 utc | 134

karlof1 | Jan 10 2023 17:14 utc | 42
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Thank you again, Karl. The interview of Patrushev is must-read. It encapsulates the broad context of the civilizational struggle Russia is waging with clarity and detail that shows why Russia’s methodical and comprehensive operational strategy—economic, cultural, political, diplomatic, and military— is ultimately the most effective path to achieving its goals. Its pace may appear glacial, but glaciers inexorably move mountains.
A few early passages that struck me. Sorry if repetitive:
“Western politicians do not have the strength and opportunities to change life in their countries for the better, because they are no longer independent figures. Everyone has connections to big business, lobbyists, and foundations. They don’t even hide these facts.”
True, they cannot hide them any longer. Anyone who’s traveled in any American city, especially where the weather without shelter is survivable, can readily see that the US is fast becoming a capitalist shit-hole, inflicting the same banana-republic cannibalistic impoverishment of its own people that it has wreaked on the “third-world” for decades. Garland Nixon recently played windshield-view clips of Oakland’s down-and-out, which is happening in every American city, especially the West coast. Horrific. Obscene. Unforgiveable.
“…the American state is just a shell for a conglomerate of huge corporations that rule the country and try to rule the world. For TNCs [transnational corporations?], even US presidents are just extras who can shut their mouths like Trump. All four murders of American leaders are linked to a corporate trail. It is no coincidence that an increasing number of Americans say that Republicans and Democrats are just two actors in one play that has nothing to do with democracy.
Self-evident truth that! Goes on to prove that the West is immune to internal reform. IMO, that can only occur thru collapse— financial, economic, and/or military. It’s a tight-rope that Russia is crossing with considerable skill.
People should go read the whole interview. Phenomenal.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jan 10 2023 22:13 utc | 135

@ ABC | Jan 10 2023 21:56 utc | 128
OT. Topic is ‘Ukraine – Russia – NATO – Fighting’. There is the ‘The MoA Week In Review – (Not Ukraine) OT 2023-07’ thread for OT.

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 10 2023 22:17 utc | 136

@126 Cont’d–
Thought I’d supply Cunningham’s conclusion:
“Instead of seeking a diplomatic way back from the abyss, the NATO powers are too bamboozled by their own propaganda, political venality, and the addiction of their capitalist economies to the military-industrial dealers.
“The last time German tanks rolled into battle in Europe they were roundly defeated by Soviet forces. Back then, the Americans were also fighting against the Nazis, albeit only to cynically collude with the remnants of the Third Reich in the next Cold War.
“This time around, German, American and French tanks are on the same side supporting a regime that openly glorifies its Nazi collaborators. They say history never repeats exactly. It certainly rhymes though.”
IMO, Cunningham’s almost correct. Where he’s wrong is about the “addiction”–the reality is those corporations control NATO governments.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2023 22:19 utc | 137

Looks like the US (NATO) just got beaten by a volunteer army (Wagner Group). Gonna be hard to live down.

Posted by: Liz | Jan 10 2023 22:22 utc | 138

https://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-military-reportedly-sinks-russian-092000217.html
Is Ukraine winning?

Posted by: Sean | Jan 10 2023 22:29 utc | 139

The problem for the “west” is that it has de industrialized for 35-40 years, and it’s industry (what’s left)has been operating on the basis of “on time delivery” for the same amount of time. In order to mount production of massive amounts of war materials on a rapid basis, it would have to construct and tool up plants and educate and train a workforce. Too long term and too little short term profits for the globalists and the ” investors”.

Posted by: a machinist | Jan 10 2023 22:29 utc | 140

What is this guy drinking?
a week ago, John Bolton, yes that neocon, wrote in the UK Daily Telegraph that Turkey is disobedient and its NATO membership is questionable should Erdo be re-elected in 2023.

[.] This is because of the clear unwillingness of the Turkish authorities to take a tough anti-Russian stance on the conflict in Ukraine he added in his article that was published in The Daily Telegraph on Monday evening.
In the coming months, Bolton said he believed that: “the unity and determination of the West will be truly tested in practice. Finland and Sweden have made the stunning decision to join NATO, but Russia’s trade and military partners have not yet abandoned it in its hour of need”.
“Unfortunately, this includes Turkey, whose NATO membership should be in doubt in 2023 if [Turkish] President Recep Tayyip Erdogan – probably through fraud – will be re-elected in the elections scheduled for June“.[.]
https://news.am/eng/news/738038.html

Bolton got one thing right. The defeat of NATO in UKR will certainly break up the alliance.
Pity the neocons. They’ll need to find an open window on the 20th floor.

Posted by: Likklemore | Jan 10 2023 22:33 utc | 141

“We are happy to be the US’s bunnies” because we live in fairyland. Do Zelensky and his entourage live in a parallel universe? It is a fair question.

Posted by: George | Jan 10 2023 22:34 utc | 142

OUN-B Nazi Ukies are evermore desperate …
Former shattered sacrificial NATO proxy & then NATO ‘Candidate’ alongside The Ukraine in 2008:

Ex-Soviet republic explains refusal to ‘return’ weapons to Ukraine
Georgia’s defense ministry blasted Kiev for claiming it had obtained its Buk air-defense systems free of charge
Georgia did not receive Buk anti-aircraft systems from Ukraine free of charge, but rather as part of a secret arms deal, the country’s defense ministry announced on Tuesday.
The statement came in response to a Ukrainian diplomat who alleged that Tbilisi was refusing to return weapons that Kiev had gifted to the Caucasian nation more than a decade ago.
The ministry further castigated “the incorrect information spread by experts or individual media outlets” about the Buk deal.
“It seems that Ukraine handed over Buk air-defense systems to Georgia for free, which is not true,” it said, adding that Georgia “had received the Buk systems in 2007 through a multi-million-dollar purchase.
“This was done under a secret agreement, which is why we cannot provide more specifics,” it explained.
The defense ministry added that, while Georgia is offering Ukraine humanitarian and diplomatic support, Tbilisi “has repeatedly stated its clear position” on shipments of weapons and dual-use goods to Kiev.

@ Sean | Jan 10 2023 22:29 utc | 139
No. GTFOH.

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 10 2023 22:35 utc | 143

Doug Hillman @135–
Thanks for your reply. Yes, TNCs are Transnational Corporations. For those who cannot connect to my VK to read the interview’s translation, there is a way. Open the Yandex search engine and click the translate button. Go to the interview and copy the URL then paste it into the left-hand box after selecting the language, Russian, then English or whatever for the right-hand box, and allow the software to do its thing. Soon, you’ll be presented with the translation.
As many have noted, Russia cannot bring about the overthrow of the Outlaw US Empire alone as the key to doing that is to eliminate Dollar Hegemony. Yes, the Empire can be weakened via its Ukraine Crime. If smart people were actually in charge in Washington, they’d withdraw and concentrate their efforts on forming a hearty Dollar Bloc consisting of NATO, AUKUS, and its Asian vassals Japan and South Korea while attempting to reconquer South America. Fortunately, dumb as doorknob people reside in Washington and don’t know how to let go as such thinking isn’t ever in their minds. Perhaps the promising partisan infighting aimed at the Bidens and more will keep minds occupied on that defense instead of the larger issue of preserving Empire.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2023 22:39 utc | 144

“Can Russia really be considered a Great Power (like America or China), if they are struggling this badly from NATO giving a few percentage points of their 1980s surplus weapons to Ukraine, the most corrupt country in Europe and which according to some, sells a considerably amount of Western aid on the black market?”
Posted by: Bernd | Jan 10 2023 16:21 utc | 12
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Really Bernd? Just a few percentages of surplus weapons? And how about the billions in funding that Ukraine received from the US and its western allies? Without that funding Western Ukraine would have been completely bankrupt domestically a long time ago.
Also, what about the US and NATO’s logistics and satellite intelligence support and military infantry training given to the AFU? Also, let’s not overlook the long and medium range missiles with satellite, laser, and radar guided systems.
The satellites that the AFU has unlimited access to cost the US and EU taxpayers billions of dollars to produce, launch into space, and then man and operate 24/7. Saddam Hussian would have loved to have had such support.
Also, there are the Western supported and trained mercenaries, mostly Western special forces “on leave” from regular duty. They are in Ukraine at this very moment doing everything from leading infantry forces themselves, and training AFU forces to us sophisticated new Western defensive and offensive weapons systems. All at great expense to the Western taxpayers.
Bernd, I know nothing about you, but remarks like yours at #12 put you on my TROLL list.

Posted by: Ed | Jan 10 2023 22:41 utc | 145

Fighting NATO? Which NATO units is Russia fighting then? Where are they deployed? NATO usually fights with air cover….where are the aircraft?
The truth is that this board has bought into MoD propaganda hook, line, and sinker.
Gather round boys and drop your socks and grab your cocks, the circle jerk is raging at MoA.

Posted by: Muthaucker | Jan 10 2023 22:43 utc | 146

It’s rare to hear an American politician talking any kind of sence even more so on BBC radio news at ten….
George Good — US Congressman.
If you can find it it’l be worth your while.
And to think that just went out on UK
Nationl news.
I’d be very interested in comments.
It may disappear real fast.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 10 2023 23:02 utc | 147

Since the events in Ukraine are a series of crimes, the introduction to Declan Hayes latest, “Legacy of Violence: A History of the British Empire”, seems quite apt:

Caroline Elkins’ accounts of British soldiers ramming broken bottles into the vaginas of female Kenyan prisoners during the Kikuyus’ Mau Mau revolt is not, by any stretch, the worst example of Albion’s imperial violence she recounts. Because this 870 page book is awash with similar instances of systematic war crimes by the British administration in Kenya, in Nigeria, Jamaica, South Africa, Malaya, Palestine, Cyprus, Nyasaland, India and countless other outposts of empire, justifiable comparisons between the British and the Nazis arise time and again.
And, although many Nazis were brought to book for their crimes, no British were, even though General Sir Frank Kitson, one of the most notorious of these Grade A war criminals, who hopscotched about from one colonial killing field to the next, is still alive and, no doubt, still plotting the murder of others. The book makes it plain that the British had a bunch of such military and civil service troubleshooters, psychopathic thugs like Kitson and Bomber Harris they were prepared to send, almost at a moment’s notice, to any part of their rotten empire where the “natives” had to be duffed up, a euphemism for barbaric tortures derived from Douglas Duff, one of their Satanic number.

I have Elkins’s devastating book about the Kenya Gulag in my library and will soon be adding this one. Here’re some more excerpts from Hayes for those who can’t access SCI:

Elkins alleges on page 649 that the main reason MI5 ‘fessed up to their Mau Mau war crimes was because Julian Assange, whom they now hold in their most secure dungeon, was going to release a trove of papers exposing their horrendous war crimes against the Kikuyu in Kenya. She also shows, with examples from Malaya, India, Palestine and elsewhere, that Assange was far from the first instance of these colonial thugs shooting, torturing or just plain murdering the messenger.
The book’s pre-eminent strength is in showing how such propaganda and censorship were both central to Britain’s genocide campaigns and to these criminals self fashioning themselves, like their current American partners in crime do, as the standard bearers of progress and enlightenment.
It was to whitewash those crimes and to confer some faux dignity on Albion’s empire of concentration camps and gulags that Rudyard Kipling, George Orwell’s “prophet of British imperialism” was given the 1907 Nobel Prize for Literature. Kipling was part of a gigantic propaganda fig leaf that hid the oxymoron of liberal imperialism, the velvet glove that sheathed a merciless fist that crushed, castrated and enslaved Albion’s new-caught, sullen peoples who were half devil and half child.

It ought to be obvious why I posted this as the Outlaw US Empire is merely the heir to the Outlaw British Empire, a dab of which still persists. As with all of Hayes’s essays, this one is peppered with links. Hayes does provide the full title and link at the end of his essay.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2023 23:03 utc | 148

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2023 18:11 utc | 65
I suppose this could be considered off-topic, although clearly we wouldn’t be in this Ukraine situation if the situation weren’t true that the world’s rich control everything including the governments of the world.
I read some years back that a study was done which showed the 80% or more of the world’s wealth was owned by 2,000 companies.
And of those 2,000 companies, 200 companies controlled most of them.
So how many people are on a Board of Directors? 10? 20? Which means perhaps 2-4,000 people control 80% of the world’s wealth.
Found the article from 2011, my numbers are off but it’s essentially the same situation:
Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354-500-revealed-the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world/

The work, to be published in PLoS One, revealed a core of 1318 companies with interlocking ownerships (see image). Each of the 1318 had ties to two or more other companies, and on average they were connected to 20. What’s more, although they represented 20 per cent of global operating revenues, the 1318 appeared to collectively own through their shares the majority of the world’s large blue chip and manufacturing firms – the “real” economy – representing a further 60 per cent of global revenues.
When the team further untangled the web of ownership, it found much of it tracked back to a “super-entity” of 147 even more tightly knit companies – all of their ownership was held by other members of the super-entity – that controlled 40 per cent of the total wealth in the network. “In effect, less than 1 per cent of the companies were able to control 40 per cent of the entire network,” says Glattfelder. Most were financial institutions. The top 20 included Barclays Bank, JPMorgan Chase & Co, and The Goldman Sachs Group.

The analysis itself is linked in the article (PDF download):
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1107/1107.5728v2.pdf
Then there’s this:
Which Corporations Control the World?
https://internationalbusinessguide.org/corporations/
And finally there’s this guy who ranted about it on LinkedIn:
The Billionaires ~ The Real Problem is Broken Capitalism

According to OxFam, the world’s billionaires combined have an estimated
$24 TRILLION IN CASH.
THAT’S JUST IN THEIR
PERSONAL BANK ACCOUNTS.
So in other words, the billionaires could give the world half of it now, that’s $12 TRILLION. And they would STILL possess the other $12 trillion in cash PLUS all of their other assets including their massive businesses, stocks, bonds, private jets, Bentleys, mansions and super yachts.
Imagine this. A $12 TRILLION CASH contribution to stave off the societal meltdown of the century would not make one tiny iota of a difference to any one of them.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jan 10 2023 23:05 utc | 149

Since as to emphasise the RF’s victory in Soledar, a bunch of familiar lame arse stirrers have popped outta the woodwork to divert y’all I trust that all will ignore them and not bite at their obvious lies and the lame englander’s distraction.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jan 10 2023 23:05 utc | 150

karlof1@137
“…the reality is those corporations control NATO governments”
It takes two to tango. It’s a symbiotic relationship and they have leverage over each other: Political power and money.

Posted by: Art Thomas | Jan 10 2023 23:07 utc | 151

I leave the value judgment to those who systematically make value judgments about good and evil. Although they are old, in age, they are children in their reasoning: frivolizing about the death of soldiers on the front lines is evidence of a lack of humanity, i.e. compassion.
If thousands of humans are dying in an armed conflict, wouldn’t it be reasonable to analyze the phenomenon in a rational way and leave emotional “cheers” aside?
This is not an exercise in playful pleasure. It is a tragedy, a drama, and a trauma for those involved and their relatives.
Finding out what is going on in a war that is taking place far from you is legitimate. Considering this war as an intellectual exercise is obscene.
What you sow in your heart, you end up reaping

Posted by: Tolon | Jan 10 2023 23:09 utc | 152

@Muthaucker 146
NATO has boasted about providing training, intelligence, arms, munition, materiels and active assistance to the Ukraine, and the Ukraine has repeatedly acknowledged the debt and demanded more. So either NATO, the Ukraine and Russia are all lying about this, or you have not been paying attention, or you are lying and know you are lying. Given your history, I would say the latter is the most likely
Anyone other than Russia entering Ukraine airspace at any useful altitude above terrain would impact terrain in short order, because Russia does not need to leave it’s own airspace in order to surveil the entire Ukraine, and it’s air defenses are vastly superior in range, speed and PoK to Western anti-aircraft capabilities. Not only do Russia’s missiles give it an insurmountable edge, but Russia’s all-band passive sensor capability will detect and target any current Western airframes without exposing Russian airframes, missiles or surface assets to anti-radiation weapons. NATO’s widespread adoption of US warplanes that are unable to take-off with a military load including mission fuel, making them dependent on unstealthy tankers for an aerial refuelling before every combat mission guarantees that Russia will always see them coming – and because the European theatre is small and AA ranges large, every mission will expose Western tankers and airborne battle management assets to destruction. Also, if space assets were to be involved, the West would almost certainly lose them, which would effectively end their war fighting capability. Which is why conventional aerial warfare is simply not on the cards, no matter what schmucks with bigger balls than brains might say.
Once again exposing your blather for the delusional dross it is.

Posted by: Hermit | Jan 10 2023 23:23 utc | 153

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2023 18:11 utc | 65
Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2023 19:08 utc | 82
Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2023 22:12 utc | 134
NOTE: My first attempt at posting this was dumped by the site filter, either because of the links or because it hates me again, as it does periodically.
You’ll be interested in these articles, if you haven’t already seen them:
I read about this back in 2011:
Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world
The study itself is linked in the article (PDF download):
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1107/1107.5728v2.pdf
Then there’s this:
Which Corporations Control the World?
https://internationalbusinessguide.org/corporations/
And I read this back in 2020 from a guy named Mario Cavolo, who lives in China:
The Billionaires ~ The Real Problem is Broken Capitalism

According to OxFam, the world’s billionaires combined have an estimated
$24 TRILLION IN CASH. THAT’S JUST IN THEIR PERSONAL BANK ACCOUNTS
So in other words, the billionaires could give the world half of it now, that’s $12 TRILLION. And they would STILL possess the other $12 trillion in cash PLUS all of their other assets including their massive businesses, stocks, bonds, private jets, Bentleys, mansions and super yachts.
Imagine this. A $12 TRILLION CASH contribution to stave off the societal meltdown of the century would not make one tiny iota of a difference to any one of them.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jan 10 2023 23:25 utc | 154

NATO is actually betting so publicly and so high stakesly on Ukranazistan that the defeat of the nazi regime will be much harder to swallow than Vietnam or Afghanistan. This is not applicable to the average Amerikastani, whose nanosecond attention span will switch to the next object of manufactured outrage in a heartbeat, but to NATOstani regime members, especially in Europistan and the world centre of nazism, Canadastan. The reason the blood soaked war criminal Barack Hussein Obama didn’t bomb Syria in response to the false flag “chemical weapons” attack in Ghouta was that the Brutish parliament, correctly guessing that Brutain would be made the scapegoat for agreeing to participate in the bombing, refused to go along, leaving Amerikastan without a fig leaf. In the case of Russia there are far too many Europistani vassals, from Polandistan to Brutain, not to mention Canadastan of course, that have staked so much in Ukranazistan that they’ll go along with any Bidet regime plan to invade Western Ukranazistan (at least). This is the fundamental problem. The Bidet regime is now hostage to its own criminal actions and unhinged rhetoric and there will be nobody holding it back.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Jan 10 2023 23:26 utc | 155

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NOTE: My first attempt at posting this was dumped by the site filter, either because of the links or because it hates me again, as it does periodically.
The second attempt also failed, so I’m breaking the post up into two posts.
You’ll be interested in these articles, if you haven’t already seen them:
I read about this back in 2011:
Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world
The study itself is linked in the article (PDF download):
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1107/1107.5728v2.pdf

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jan 10 2023 23:27 utc | 156

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2023 18:11 utc | 65
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Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2023 22:12 utc | 134
NOTE: My first attempt at posting this was dumped by the site filter, either because of the links or because it hates me again, as it does periodically.
On the second attempt, it failed to post, and on the third attempt it failed despite being broken into two parts, so I assume the filter is simply dropping everything with name on it, as it did in the past. So this is the fourth try. – RSH
You’ll be interested in these articles, if you haven’t already seen them:
I read about this back in 2011:
Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world
The study itself is linked in the article (PDF download):
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1107/1107.5728v2.pdf

Posted by: CharlesLutherThanos | Jan 10 2023 23:29 utc | 157

Then there’s this:
Which Corporations Control the World?
https://internationalbusinessguide.org/corporations/
And I read this back in 2020 from a guy named Mario Cavolo, who lives in China:
The Billionaires ~ The Real Problem is Broken Capitalism

According to OxFam, the world’s billionaires combined have an estimated
$24 TRILLION IN CASH. THAT’S JUST IN THEIR PERSONAL BANK ACCOUNTS
So in other words, the billionaires could give the world half of it now, that’s $12 TRILLION. And they would STILL possess the other $12 trillion in cash PLUS all of their other assets including their massive businesses, stocks, bonds, private jets, Bentleys, mansions and super yachts.
Imagine this. A $12 TRILLION CASH contribution to stave off the societal meltdown of the century would not make one tiny iota of a difference to any one of them.

– RSH

Posted by: CharlesLutherThanos | Jan 10 2023 23:30 utc | 158

Everyone should note that the site seems to be under pressure again, as posts are taking a bit to show up – and the filter hates me again, so I’m using my alternate user ID.
– RSH

Posted by: CharlesLutherThanos | Jan 10 2023 23:31 utc | 159

Posted by: Hermit | Jan 10 2023 23:23 utc | 152
This is why I fear the US may be tempted toward an attempted first nuclear strike.

Posted by: WJ | Jan 10 2023 23:40 utc | 160

This is how to stop Biden running in 2024 – Classified documents uncovered in office used by Biden. This is what happens when you are no longer useful.

Posted by: Inki | Jan 10 2023 23:55 utc | 161

@12
I would hardly call starlink, javlins, NLAW, MRAPS, HIMARS, drones, EW warfare 1980s tech. Sure lot of the roots are there, but they are significantly more improved than their prior counter parts.

Posted by: jc | Jan 11 2023 0:01 utc | 162

Please, it is “Abrams”, not “Abrahams” or whatever else I see here used regularly by same ignorant people.
That said, I expect Russian MOD to be silently praying Ukies receive them. Abrams, Bradleys and Apaches helicopters too (A-10s are scraped, unfortunately) as all have undeserved reputation thanks to complete MSM control, decades of MIC propaganda since `80s and that turkey shoot called Desert Storm.
Sending any of them to Ukieland will quickly turn them into memed wreckages that are moral crushers for all westerners.
Include here Leopard tanks too. Symbolism of destroyed German panzers in steppes of Donbass 80 years after battle of Kursk can not be overstated.

Posted by: Abe | Jan 11 2023 0:02 utc | 163

It has been NATO vs Russia since the foundation of NATO. And immediately post WWII both MI6 and CIA financed Banderites and up to present have supported Emigre Banderites especially in Canada and US.
@karlofi agree RF cannot defeat/bring down the Hegemon – but RF will prevail in Ukraine – but de-dollarization has begun – it will take some time but there is no going back. [keep up the good work – you add value here] UK sent Kitson to Northern Ireland in early 1970s – his boys ‘1-Para’responsible for civilian massacres and made things much worse – he also served in Kenya, Cyprus and Malaya …
I hope Dima has a few sedatives to hand – he will be excitedly extolling the fall of Soledar for his Jan 11 update!

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jan 11 2023 0:05 utc | 164

Big Serge posted this on Twitter:

Big Serge ☦️🇺🇸🇷🇺 @witte_sergei
3h
A source has told me that a few hundred Ukrainians encircled in Soledar have been given an ultimatum to surrender or else they will hit them with the TOS thermobarics. We’ll see folks!

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jan 11 2023 0:10 utc | 165

Big Serge posted this on Twitter

Big Serge ☦️🇺🇸🇷🇺 @witte_sergei
3h
A source has told me that a few hundred Ukrainians encircled in Soledar have been given an ultimatum to surrender or else they will hit them with the TOS thermobarics. We’ll see folks!

– RSH

Posted by: CharlesLutherThanos | Jan 11 2023 0:11 utc | 166

Abe @161
Thanks for correcting “ignorant people” who misuse “Abrahams” for “Abrams.” You should also be advised that the word “morale” is not spelled “moral” which is the way you do it. You’re welcome.

Posted by: Donnie | Jan 11 2023 0:21 utc | 167

Posted by: whirlX | Jan 10 2023 19:55 utc | 99 “Just to make a point to NATO that, if one f..ks around, one finds out”
NATO has been f…ing around for over 10 months.
I don’t think Russia wants to widen the war. They haven’t been been even able to kick the Ukrainian forces out of ‘Russia’ yet. With the withdrawal from Kherson they gave up part of their country. They might want to get that back first.

Posted by: Bill Smith | Jan 11 2023 0:26 utc | 168