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Ukraine And Russia Agree – Russia Is Fighting NATO
Russia and Ukraine have publicly agreed on a fundamental and important issue.
The question is who Russia is fighting in Ukraine.
During an interview with a Ukrainian TV station the Oleksii Reznikov, the defense minister of Ukraine, answered that the Ukraine has "already become a de facto member of the NATO alliance."
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The interview, given four days ago, is available on Youtube. English language subtitles can be generated by autotranslate. The sentence pictured above comes at about 1:25 minutes in.
Sputnik, which seems to be the only international outlet that has picked up on this, has more (from ~11:05 min):
“At the NATO Summit in Madrid” in June 2022, “it was clearly delineated that over the coming decade, the main threat to the alliance would be the Russian Federation. Today Ukraine is eliminating this threat. We are carrying out NATO’s mission today. They aren’t shedding their blood. We’re shedding ours. That’s why they’re required to supply us with weapons,” Reznikov said …
The official said Kiev was being constantly reminded by its “Western partners” that it, “like a real shield, is defending the entire civilized world, the entire West,” from the Russians, and said that he personally has recently received holiday greeting cards and text messages from Western defense ministers to that effect.
Reznikov expressed “absolute” certainty in Ukraine’s eventual entry into NATO, saying he was “convinced that this is an absolutely realistic possibility… Of course they won’t accept this political decision via consensus before our victory. This is clear. But after the victory, after all this ends and some kind of peace arrives, NATO countries, first and foremost, will be interested in the construction of this security architecture. They have seen their own weak spots, they have seen who is strong and powerful. Today they are teaching us but tomorrow our officers, sergeants and even privates will be teaching them how to fight the Russians. Russia remains one of the threats to NATO, and for Europe as a whole.”
Reuters reports today that the Russian government agrees with the core of Reznikov's view:
Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev is seen by diplomats as one of the major hardline influences on Putin, who has promised victory in Ukraine despite a series of battlefield setbacks.
"The events in Ukraine are not a clash between Moscow and Kyiv – this is a military confrontation between Russia and NATO, and above all the United States and Britain," Patrushev told the Argumenti i Fakti newspaper in an interview.
"The Westerners' plans are to continue to pull Russia apart, and eventually just erase it from the political map of the world," Patrushev said.
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Asked about Patrushev's remarks, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said NATO and the United States were part of the Ukraine conflict.
"De facto they have already become an indirect party to this conflict, pumping Ukraine with weapons, technologies, intelligence information and so on," Peskov told a regular news briefing.
As both sides now seem to agree on the real participants of the conflict we can assume that they will later also come to an agreement about its outcome. That however will still take a while.
The heavily fortified Ukrainian strongholds in Bahkmut (Artyomovsk) and Soledar are about to fall. The long fight over these cities has come at a high price particularly for their defenders. All the reserves the Ukrainian command has thrown into them have been ground up by massive Russian artillery applications.
Other reserves the Ukrainian army is still training up are waiting for new supplies of 'western' weapons. But what has been newly promised, mostly infantry fighting vehicles (aluminum cans), will only become available in late spring. The most likely plan the Ukrainian command will want to pursue is a move south towards Mariupol (bottom right) to severe the Russian land connection to Crimea.
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There is however only a small chance that such a move during spring could be successful. Until then Russia has the time to make its own moves.
The Russian Alliance adapts too swiftly for any military force that exists to counter. Then the ukrinazi’s have twice committed expeditionary forces into the Donbas Arc in the Melitopol/Mariupol direction and on both operations where defeated in detail, and that was at the hands of the Donbas Arc Militia’s, without Russian manpower assisting in direct combat operations.
It seems part of the inability of Ukrainian forces to mount and successfully conclude combined arms operations goes back to an inherent aspect of the nature of ukronazi and regular ukie forces, which is the underlying purpose of the Ukrainian military has always been as terror and reprisal – cleansing operations. They have never been a fully integrated defensive military organization created for national security reasons. Yeah they have such an appearance but appearances are deceiving. It must be remembered exactly who and what the client regime in Kiev is subordinate to and what for.
It was pretty obvious before and after Maiden some globalist interests where very much interested in obtaining their own “State” appearing military, per say, a really big plausibly deniable military force, their own pet army, which was totally not loyal to the citizenry of Ukraine, they wanted a regiment factory, for their own nefarious use. But, it had to fit the look and appearence of a NATO aligned legitimate State military. But to do the nefarious it was necessary it had a very strong inner hidden controlling element totally loyal in secrecy to the khazarian mafia and its global cabal, and that was/is its ukronazi neo-nazi paramilitary component. This does not an army make. No matter how its dressed up no matter how it is lavished with arms and filthy lucre, and why increasingly this Ukraiinian military requires foreign operators, mercs, and “advisors”, because it was never a true State Military in the classic model, it is an army of thugs and criminals, it is inherently corrupt to the core, never mind its genocidal bent. Look at things right now. They are screaming for NATO munitions and weapons, crying poor mouth, but it never has any problem bombing mortaring and missiling the Donbas Arc uninterropted since 2014. Just this morning in 7 minutes 40 rockets hit Doneskt, and now Russia proper is receiving hourly arty and missile attacks upon its civilians and infrastructure, they are the targets, not Russian targets. Funny how that works. and right there is what priorities are ruling the ukie military operations. You can dress that up any way desired, it is acts of genocide by a genocidal paramilitary organization that commits acts of terror and reprisal on civilians under the guise it is a legitimate state military fighting its existential enemy. It is a terrorist army comprised of regiments of ideological fanatics in the form of fascism, with window dressing of a poorly trained poorly equipped poorly led poorly supplied conventional infantry army with no more combined arms remaining in effective amounts to win against the Russian Alliance, which in any case it never could win, it was all for plausible deniability so a criminal gang of truly depraved child blood drinking satanic megalomaniacs with an agenda to depopulate the earth in order for their own kind can rule earth with impunity, forever. And now its found itself in a pickle, its only remaining viable power to hurt is the use of nooks. There is no military capable of stopping the growing Russian Alliance. Its The Primal necessity, the number one rule in war, to know they enemy if one is to fight and win against they enemy. To now, this enemy has stopped at nothing during its centuries of rule over the western hemisphere and beyond, in all its time nothing is beyond the pale when it comes to maintaining its hegemon. How many wars, pogroms, genocides has to perpetrated upon mankind, how many hundreds of millions of dead it is responsible for. Do you believe using thermonuclear weapons to save itself is a moral issue for these monsters after all it has destroyed and murdered?
The only thing that is inhibiting them is retaliation and the risk of being annihilated by the Russians if they cross the use of nooks threshold. They do not have the delivery systems, countermeasures and high advanced war tech the Russians possess and make zero bones about using nuclear weapons for their defense. Because, the Russians know exactly who this enemy is and its evil. And why after two decades of preparing they are able to fight back with their nuclear defense capabilty having their conventional military’s back. The only threat that is not completely having a defense for is precise targeted action in the form of decapitation attack, say a van with a suitable yield weapon inside it detonated close enough to where Putin is located to guarantee his death. Every other scenario employing first use nukes against Russian Alliance is pretty much a guarantee to end up getting you the nook dirt nap. The End.
But, these are inhuman evil incarnate monsters. Born and bred into a life where they reign supreme. For generations, they and their kind has controlled this planet. They will not go softly unless they are collectively taken out in one fell swoop. Or somehow, they are something like so inbred, having maintained their bloodlines so long they are become mentally retarded to the point they flub and self destruct, essentially the human self extinction movement, it gets up every morning, looks in the mirror, brushes its teeth and goes about with its global insanity, which at moments all sure seems so sure as the sun rises. I have zero knowledge all I have is my native wit, and some critical thinking skills, hardly if at all that, I’m a welder by trade working paycheck guy who just wants to be left alone, thats all, but in this world it ain’t enough, its time to be thinking Men and be Citizen Warriors cause bad shits coming sure as the sun rises and knowing the enemy is rule number one.
I am only sharing what I believe I know is more or less some facsimile of truth and facts. Ain’t nobody coming to save me and mine and anyways it all begins with each of us, then it can be lots of us dirt people, because solidarity, unity in common cause, is what will save us, save ourselves. We are all the Donbas Arc people now. Guarantee it.
Posted by: mtnforge | Jan 10 2023 17:48 utc | 56
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