Giyane #120
Well said. Thank you.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 3 2023 2:06 utc | 204

Thank you, b, for continuing to stay in touch through to the New Year. Best wishes to you and your family!
We have had, and are still having, a very strange festive season. It is very hard to be ‘in’ it; a relief when we turn back to ordinary pursuits. There is no one, I think, who has not been jolted out of the comfort of complacency. I did copy down your cookie recipe — I hope your family enjoyed them.
My youngest daughter gave me the novel “Dr Zhivago”, which bookends my own find at a thrift store some years back. Mine was part of a flurry of printings ending in the year 1958, the year Pasternak was awarded the Nobel Prize for literature, although he declined it. My daughter’s gift is from 1989, another significant historical moment in the life of the Soviet Union. Interestingly, the translations are identical – well, the original was made directly from the manuscript as no Russian version had been published; and none was made in those days, though Kruschev apparently regretted that later.
I went hunting online, foolishly, for a text in Russian, to compare in particular the translation of Zhivago’s poems at the end of the book. But of course, I could not find one. I did, however, find a translation of the final poem by two who have done translations I much respect – Volkhonsky and Pevear. They have apparently made a full translation of the entire novel; I will look for that in future. I will just give the opening set of verses, as the poem is long:

25. The Garden of Gethsemane
The bend of the road was lighted up
By the indifferent glitter of distant stars.
The road went around the Mount of Olives.
Down below it flowed the Kedron.
The little meadow broke off half way,
Beyond it the Milky Way began.
The grey, silvery olive trees tried
To step on air in the distance.
At the end was someone’s garden plot.
Leaving his disciples outside the wall,
He said, ‘My soul is sorrowful unto death,
Tarry here and watch with me.’
He renounced without a struggle
As things merely borrowed for a time
His miracle-working and omnipotence
And was now like mortals, like us all…

I wish we could pause and discuss this poem. It is meant, I think, to be Pasternak’s message to the world; he died in 1960. I like that he was still with us when my thrift store copy was published.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 3 2023 2:29 utc | 206

Brazil: Lula’s back!
Ben Norton interviews Brazil Wire’s Brian Mier (pronounced “Meer”), 1hr, 21min. Mier, a Chicago native ex-pat moved to Brazil in 1991 and has been an active supporter of labor movements, strong Marxist and never waivered in his support for Lula. If you want a good summary and tutorial on Brazil the video is worth your time. Here are a few of the points covered:
Lula’s general direction– strengthen public sector programs aimed at the poor. He will get it done.
Lula’s compromises– a significant number of neo-libs were given positions in his administration. Miers explains this in the context of Brazil’s politics and argues that Lula did not sell out.
Bolsonaro– he got scared and ran away…. literally! He’s living in Orlando for now in one of Florida’s many gated slums for the latin rich. Miers and Norton give a bit more detail and what that means for the 20% of Brazilians who are right wing haters.
Foreign policy– Mercosur, BRICS and more. Lula will push hard to establish and build Latin American trade and a common currency which will cut out the U.S. This includes the Caribbean.
Foreign leaders– the Global south loves him. Lots came for his inauguration. Biden/Harris didn’t. They weren’t missed.
Brazil will be the biggest “thing” in Latin America this year and will bring lots of countries along. The pink tide might cause panic in the U.S.. Especially in Florida. Russia, China, Iran have a good, dependable friend in Lula but watch him to maintain his focus on Brazil, then Latin America. He already recognized Venezuela on day 1. Watch how he works with left-leaning leaders: AMLO in Mexico, Xiomara Castro in Honduras, Petro in Colombia, Diaz-Canel in Cuba, Ortega in Nicaragua, Maduro in Venezuela, Arce in Bolivia along with others who are not necessarily left but working to assert sovereignty and ditch the U.S. (Argentina) along with massive numbers of people who are pushing hard in Peru, Ecuador, Haiti, Chile.
bottom line Latin America is rising and the U.S. is not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQq1kTubYQQ

Posted by: migueljose | Jan 3 2023 2:47 utc | 208

I’d really like to see Matt Ehret continue to focus on geoeconomics and their dynamics as he’s proving to be very adept with “Eurasia’s Middle Corridor: An Atlanticist frenzy to stifle Europe-Asia integration: Geopolitical interests between the Anglo-American establishment and the Sino-Russian-led axis will clash over the Trans-Caspian International Transport Route.”
There’re some important facts he provides that helps define the friend/foe dynamic for Eurasia as evidence presented suggests Georgia is moving away from NATO and turning East and North. The essay’s middle portion presents the continued rolling-over of failed Outlaw US Empire attempts to interdict Eurasian initiatives and is thus rather important. The unmentioned key behind the lack of private financing is that those proposed entities are Neoliberal Parasites not Industrial Capitalist Bankers and thus they will never back such ventures. So much for Atlanticist plans being stabbed in the back by themselves. The irony is indeed rich.
So, soak it up as there’s a whole hell of a lot happening.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 3 2023 3:09 utc | 210

@ Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 3 2023 2:13 utc | 205
Here’s what I could find:

Contrary to reports like the one by the Epoch Times, the study didn’t show the mRNA or reverse-transcribed DNA entering the nucleus of cells. The nucleus is where an organism’s DNA is stored. Rhys Parry, a postdoctoral research fellow at the University of Queensland who studies viral evolution, told Health Feedback that the study’s immunofluorescence experiment showed LINE-1 (in red; the nucleus is marked in blue) to be predominantly present in the cytoplasm of the cell, and this is the case even in the absence of the vaccine…
A technique called immunofluorescence was used by the researchers to visualize the location of LINE-1 and the nucleus in the cells[1]. The color red indicates LINE-1, while the color blue marks the nucleus.
“[T]here is no increased signal in the regions that correspond to the nucleus when the mRNA is increased, in fact you can see the clear gaps where the nucleus is,” Parry pointed out.
“Therefore I would disagree that the study convincingly shows an increase in the nuclear location of LINE-1. If anything it just shows that LINE-1 expression increases in the cytoplasm of the cells. Just because you have more expression of a protein it doesn’t mean the distribution of that protein fundamentally changes,” he explained.
More importantly, the study never showed that the reverse-transcribed DNA integrated into the cell’s genome. “[T]here is no evidence presented [in the study showing] that the mRNA is integrated into the genome of the host cells,” Parry said. “There is no high-throughput sequencing of the Huh7 cell line and no evidence of other conventional methods of detection of [genomic] DNA such as Southern blot.”
Indeed, Aldén et al. even acknowledged the same in the study, writing that “At this stage, we do not know if DNA reverse transcribed from BNT162b2 is integrated into the cell genome.”
…
In summary, contrary to claims made by certain media outlets and social media users, the study by Lund University researchers didn’t show that the mRNA or reverse-transcribed DNA enters the nucleus and more importantly, it didn’t show that the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines alter our DNA.
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/study-lund-university-didnt-show-covid-19-mrna-vaccines-change-dna-epoch-times/#feedback

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Intracellular Reverse Transcription of Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 In Vitro in Human Liver Cell Line
by
Markus Aldén
https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm

Posted by: suzan | Jan 3 2023 3:30 utc | 212

suzan, was reading through your 34 again. Wrote a fairly long comment and again included a link to the Swiss research paper. Posted and it simply disappeared. Thanks for your input here. It seems that paper doesn’t make it through the platform censor.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 3 2023 3:41 utc | 214

Just wrote test then added the link to the Swiss research and posted. It appeared, I renewed the page and it was gone.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 3 2023 3:47 utc | 216

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 2 2023 16:22 utc | 158 views about your religion.
Er um!!!!!!!!
The US never, ever sponsors Shia groups but only Sunni ISIS types. Iran, Hezbollah and Assad are Shia.

Posted by: watcher | Jan 3 2023 3:53 utc | 218

Tit for tat
Syria on 30 December
Ukraine on 1 January
https://thecradle.co/Article/News/19938

Washington’s military base in the occupied Al-Omar oilfield in Syria’s eastern governorate of Deir Ezzor, came under intense rocket fire late on 30 December in what has been described as the largest attack “of its kind,” with media suggesting the likelihood of US military casualties.
“The American base in the Al-Omar oil field in the eastern countryside of Deir Ezzor was subjected to violent missile strikes of unknown origin this evening,” a Russian media correspondent reported.
The correspondent also quoted local sources as saying that the sounds of massive explosions were heard in the vicinity of the base before US military aircraft were seen heavily patrolling the skies. The sources confirmed that the missile barrage targeted the Green Zone area of the facility, where the troops are normally housed.
“There were [most likely] casualties among the American forces,” the sources added, citing the fact that the missiles accurately hit their targets.
Loud warning sirens were heard, as helicopters and ambulances were seen rushing into the facility. Forces belonging to the US-backed Kurdish proxy, the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), as well as US military personnel, closed all roads leading to the base and oilfield “for fear of any further attack.”

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 3 2023 4:18 utc | 220

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 3 2023 4:25 utc | 219
Know them all quite well- or I did once. the old left were real people with real values. The new left is all the way with USA and think that gender politics is the only issue that matters.

Posted by: watcher | Jan 3 2023 5:12 utc | 222

@ Peter AU1 | Jan 3 2023 4:14 utc | 217
I was able to locate the paper from your earlier description and replied but it didn’t go through.
I think you’re right about the industrialization taking place with all the contracts reported by Campbell. Disguised as health biological products manufacturing, a dual-purpose biological industrialization. More miccimatt terrain.
Here’s the critique of Aldén’s paper:

Contrary to reports like the one by the Epoch Times, the study didn’t show the mRNA or reverse-transcribed DNA entering the nucleus of cells. The nucleus is where an organism’s DNA is stored. Rhys Parry, a postdoctoral research fellow at the University of Queensland who studies viral evolution, told Health Feedback that the study’s immunofluorescence experiment showed LINE-1 (in red; the nucleus is marked in blue) to be predominantly present in the cytoplasm of the cell, and this is the case even in the absence of the vaccine…
A technique called immunofluorescence was used by the researchers to visualize the location of LINE-1 and the nucleus in the cells[1]. The color red indicates LINE-1, while the color blue marks the nucleus.
“[T]here is no increased signal in the regions that correspond to the nucleus when the mRNA is increased, in fact you can see the clear gaps where the nucleus is,” Parry pointed out.
“Therefore I would disagree that the study convincingly shows an increase in the nuclear location of LINE-1. If anything it just shows that LINE-1 expression increases in the cytoplasm of the cells. Just because you have more expression of a protein it doesn’t mean the distribution of that protein fundamentally changes,” he explained.
More importantly, the study never showed that the reverse-transcribed DNA integrated into the cell’s genome. “[T]here is no evidence presented [in the study showing] that the mRNA is integrated into the genome of the host cells,” Parry said. “There is no high-throughput sequencing of the Huh7 cell line and no evidence of other conventional methods of detection of [genomic] DNA such as Southern blot.”
Indeed, Aldén et al. even acknowledged the same in the study, writing that “At this stage, we do not know if DNA reverse transcribed from BNT162b2 is integrated into the cell genome.”
…
In summary, contrary to claims made by certain media outlets and social media users, the study by Lund University researchers didn’t show that the mRNA or reverse-transcribed DNA enters the nucleus and more importantly, it didn’t show that the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines alter our DNA.

Just because this is not happening in this instance as far as we know, of course, does not mean it is not do-able. Opening Pandora’s box has released a blind fury.

Posted by: suzan | Jan 3 2023 5:17 utc | 224

Scroll down this twitter thread from jikkyleaks.
Remain calm 😉
https://twitter.com/Jikkyleaks/status/1610100584383942656

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 3 2023 5:20 utc | 226

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 3 2023 5:23 utc | 225
Recognise the initials quite well but have no idea now what they stood for. I was not a member – I am a few years (not many) younger I think. I grew up in the peace movement and was at the very earliest demonstrations against the Vietnam war.1964- 1972 I was active and went to most things.

Posted by: watcher | Jan 3 2023 5:33 utc | 228

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 3 2023 5:51 utc | 227
I never met Don Henderson, but I was quite often at Resistance and had many friends who were members. They were a bit too alternative for me- I was decidedly square and not so keen on the dope smoking – keen to pass my High school Exams. Also a lot were Trots who were the arch enemy of the Young Labor crowd I was with by the early 70s. Knew Bob Gould quite well.
AICD – yes how the hell could I forget that- I think that they were all a little older and grander than me – still a school kid.

Posted by: watcher | Jan 3 2023 6:02 utc | 230

watcher #228

AICD – yes how the hell could I forget that- I think that they were all a little older and grander than me – still a school kid.

Well I was a teenager when I walked in their front door in George Street and asked if I could read material in their library. I was about to be conscripted and I was building my knowledge to confront the state in the courts. I spent a year there reading all the reports of the International Control Commission in Vietnam plus other great material they held. They were curious and we checked each other out. Then I was a kid on the AICD management board and enjoyed the company of all those oldies. Became a juvenile peace organiser. Also found great material at Third World Bookshop around the corner in Goulburn street and had lots of great debates with Bob and the Percy trots. He had a phenomenal and nuanced knowledge of world politics. His contribution to Australian political development through that bookshop was legendary.
G’day comrade.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 3 2023 6:47 utc | 232

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 3 2023 7:04 utc | 231
We most definitely moved in the same circles. We will have quite a few acquaintances in common I think. of course for the first 4 years of the protest movement I was too young to be out alone and it was not until the very late 60s that I visited on my own (or with friends).

Posted by: watcher | Jan 3 2023 7:13 utc | 234

A peek at the scum within the Liberal Party of Australia:
https://johnmenadue.com/decaying-liberals-oblivious-to-the-abyss/
As an acquaintance suggests: the only salvation for these sh!ts could be a USA ‘managed’ colour revolution just before the polls.
Jack Waterford writes:

The state of decline of the Federal Liberal Party [of Australia] revealed by its 2022 election review is so serious that even people who hope it never achieves power again should ask themselves whether it is in Australia’s interest that it be allowed to continue in its death spiral.

Definitely! Send them down the death spiral … asap please.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 3 2023 7:22 utc | 236

On Australia China relations and the political economy within Australia’s electorate:
https://johnmenadue.com/the-chinese-australian-voter-emerges/
Perhaps the numbers reality will keep the current Australian government’s China haters in moderation.
Methinks it wise for Australia to exit the QUAD or at least be vocal in refutation when JAPUSA belligerence surfaces.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 3 2023 9:15 utc | 238

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 3 2023 5:20 utc | 224
Jikky the Mouse did not survive the previous Open Thread where I quoted his link 😉
https://tinyurl.com/4s7hek2k
When this disappeared from online stores in early 2020 I knew there was something rotten in the state of Denmark.
There’s a method in their madness 🙂
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Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 3 2023 9:15 utc | 237
The body is our own temple. No one has a right to rule over it. Seeing them pushing this stuff on university level adults and sub 5 yr. olds makes me disgusted watching how this is all playing out. Little children are defenseless, being completely reliant on their parents.
I will continue to ask “Where are the Long Term Studies ?” which should have been completed in late 2022 – early 2023. That was parroted none stop in the beginning. Now the subject has completely disappeared.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jan 3 2023 9:50 utc | 240

Covid as seen through the eyes of radiology. A discussion of its observed features combined with information derived from physical autopsy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Pz2aYSxUrk
“In this interview, Dr. Graham Lloyd-Jones describes a new pathway for how the virus that causes COVID-19 enters the body and damages blood vessels. Dr. Lloyd-Jones describes how COVID-19 is entering the body in a new way, how this pathway is leading to more damage and death, and how his work with the Salisbury Hospital has resulted in a new protocol for patients that can also be used by those at home who may be suffering from infection.”

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 3 2023 10:19 utc | 242

@ migueljose | Jan 3 2023 2:47 utc | 208
Thank you kindly. Valuable posts.
Peace
@ karlof1 | Jan 3 2023 3:09 utc | 210
Yes indeed. For those who have eyes to see it.
The Georgian people learnt a painful yet valuable lesson as a sacrificed suborned proxy in 2008. The year Georgia & Ukraine were announced as NATO candidates. And is the year I firmly believe commenced & committed in earnest preparing for the current challenge to Empire, far from only militarily (2008 military reforms).
@ watcher | Jan 3 2023 3:53 utc | 216
Quite so.

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 3 2023 10:48 utc | 244

suzan @ 195
What I hve been reading, and reading for more than a year, is that spike proteins are being found in all the places you mention. Which is a phenomenon that follows vaccination. Your post is first I’ve heard of complete virus being found in multiple organs. If that is in fact what you and your sources are saying.
If the virus alone were doing all these things, again, viremia would have to occur. Respiratory infections are respiratory. Viremia does not occur until the patient is very very sick. WIth lipid nanoparticles an equivalent to viremia occurs every time.
If covid were remotely as infectious as we have been told every person on the planet was infected the first year. If the things you are discussing were from the original virus then we should all have these problems and it should have been evident much sooner.
Going back to Diamond Princess and early CDC statements only 20% of the popultion was ever susceptible. Diamond Princess of course was all old people. Young people, or the 20% of young people who were susceptible, got the infection and blew it off. No occasion for widespread viremia.
Everything you are talking about is vax and not virus. I have read quite a few papers where the authors use boilerplate in the abstract to blame the virus, as required by the thought police, text of article makes it very clear they know they are looking at vax effects.
If intact virus is being found in all those organs it must be not only living but reproducing. And it would be reproducing on viral timescale. Patients should be dead. Spike will kill, it will do it slower and we get time to study it as we expire.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 3 2023 14:55 utc | 246

oldhippie wrote: “If the virus alone were doing all these things, again, viremia would have to occur.”
If you are trying to claim that it is rare for SARS2 to get into the blood stream of the infected, that is not the case.
It is well understood that SARS2 does enter the bloodstream of the infected and may cause blood vessel inflammation, leakage and clotting.
Covid usually does not cause respiratory distress by restricting the flow of air in the lungs like other respiratory viruses do. Covid causes respiratory distress by micro-clots in the capillaries of the lungs. It was observed early in the pandemic that most of the patients with low oxygen levels were not having the typical trouble breathing of other types of pneumonia.
https://www.generalsurgerynews.com/In-the-News/Article/07-21/Aspirin-Reduces-the-Need-for-Mechanical-Ventilation-by-Nearly-Half-For-COVID-19-Patients/64048

Posted by: jinn | Jan 3 2023 16:11 utc | 248

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 1 2023 18:13 utc | 7
Tried to get a friend to take a D Dimer clot test after taking 5 pfizer mRNA products, as the vaxxes are known to cause blood clots, almost as a feature. She refused, believing everything MSM or medical agencies tell as a face value – as they haven’t pointed out this risk, it does not exist.
There’s also the issue on whether it destroys ones immune system – if that’s the case, people might start getting seriously ill from normal flu viruses and cancer rates should increase a lot.

Posted by: unimperator | Jan 3 2023 17:05 utc | 250

In memoriam,
Can’t just let this day pass without remembering the good Gen. Soleimany — assassinated by the orange man — on this day 2020.
May he RIP.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jan 3 2023 18:09 utc | 252

uncle tungsten | Jan 3 2023 10:19 utc | 240
Your link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Pz2aYSxUrk most helpful re understanding COVID mechanism. Had to look-up some words but the doc explains it clearly,,,and I’ve only gotten thru the first 40 min of the 54 min video.
Big contribution to understanding!

Posted by: chu teh | Jan 3 2023 18:28 utc | 254

@oldhippie 2
And, as I predicted, vastly more CoViD deaths have occurred under the Democrats than ever did under Trump. But the day Biden was appointed was the day that everyone stopped reporting on CoViD, so now it is, like other unpleasant realities, deliberately suppressed in and by the collective mind.
Apes are ridiculously predictable which makes them perfect victims for predators.

Posted by: Hermit | Jan 3 2023 19:26 utc | 256

Oh, the irony…
Posted by: S | Jan 3 2023 19:01 utc | 255
Hiding in plain sight.
Nice pick. Tx.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 3 2023 20:13 utc | 258

Oh, the irony…
Posted by: S | Jan 3 2023 19:01 utc | 255
You conveniently snipped out the part describing the first-hand eyewitness testimony with the caveat that they might all be liars as so many opinionated Barflies here would doubtless maintain.
So enjoy your cheap, petty debating point typical of so many on this board.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 3 2023 21:05 utc | 260

@260 scorpion
Hear, hear.
There are many posters that have in their mind the truth of what we have been told about rhr Holocaust. They are prepared at every moment to attack the NSDAP and to conjure its image and project it upon any that disagree with their Bolshevik vision of the world.
They are prepared to do this in all instances, and in the next breath, will call anyone who thinks the Ukrainians suffered under the Bolsheviks as lairs and fascists.
That is the true irony here.
For our part, Scorpion, at least we can offer that, yes, Jews perhaps suffered under the NSDAP. But that also there was great evidence to suggest Ukrainians suffered under the Bolsheviks.
We are able to question and find shades of grey in both of these historical events. For them, it is 100% yes in one instance and an emphatic “No” on the other.
That tells you all you need to know on who is carrying the torch around here. Diogenes would be having a rough go of it.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 3 2023 22:14 utc | 262

“..Jews perhaps suffered under the NSDAP. But that also there was great evidence to suggest Ukrainians suffered under the Bolsheviks…” Nemesis calling(from a bunker in Berlin)
There is precisely no evidence that Ukrainians suffered anything more from the Bolsheviks than any other minority within the USSR. Western Ukraine was part of Poland during the famine years in which collectivisation was being introduced as a remedy to famine. The nonsense that the famine in Ukraine was induced by Stalin in order to kill Ukrainians is part of a propaganda campaign designed to make Ukrainians hate Russians. And everyone to hate socialism.
There are fascists all over. For those bewildered by the onslaught being made on socialised medicine under the guise of critical analysis of the Covid Pandemic this article by Tings Chak will be useful. Tings Chak is a researcher and the art director of Tricontinental: Institute for Social Research. She is a co-founding member of Dongsheng (Eastern Voices), an international collective of researchers in Chinese politics and society. She is currently pursuing a doctorate at Tsinghua University and lives in Beijing.
“…Far from “failing” as the Western media is claiming now, Zero-Covid worked extremely effectively. Since the pandemic broke, the average life expectancy of Chinese people actually increased from 77.318 to 78.219 years (2019-2021), surpassing the United States for the first time in history (Chart 1). In the U.S., however, the average life span dropped from 78.820 to 76.421 years during that same period, owing in large part to the high number of Covid-related deaths. This is particularly striking when you consider that China was the eleventh22 poorest country in the world in 1949 (measured by per capita PPP GDP) with a life expectancy of only 3623 versus 6824 for the U.S. This means that an average Chinese person’s lifespan more than doubled, whereas in the U.S., the average lifespan only grew by eight years in nearly eight decades…
“The U.S. has recorded 1.1 million deaths due to Covid-19. The cumulative U.S. death rate per one million people is currently 83425 times that of China (3,339 versus 4). In the case of the U.S. and China, the use of “excess-death” numbers—the difference between observed and expected mortality rates—is of little value for analysis purposes as both countries had relatively low numbers of these deaths in the last three years. If China had followed the reckless U.S. path, these figures indicate China would have suffered 4.8 million dead. Even a quick calculation reveals that China’s strategy indeed saved millions of lives.
https://socialistincanada.ca/chinas-successful-three-year-fight-against-the-coronavirus-pandemic/

Posted by: bevin | Jan 3 2023 23:49 utc | 264

In other news.
One man using just one case study with zero prior health information made available. An unfortunate resident in Eire was supposed to have contracted HIV-AIDS from a triple SARS-COVID-19 mRNA vaccine.
This one man single-handedly overturns in excess of 2 million documents, books, and detailed research printed about HIV-AIDS since 1981.
Or is he just another sad troll seeking his 1 second of the Internet “tell me lies” fame?
Lies kill, facts save.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jan 4 2023 0:36 utc | 266

@ Piotr Berman | Jan 3 2023 19:55 utc | 257
“[I]s there ANY proof that COVID vaccinations help children or even folks below 35 years of age, or really ANYONE, now that virus has increased contagion (even vaccinmated people can spread it) and decreased morbidity…”
It looks like the risk/benefit ratio for the mRNA jabs as a preventative of the vasculopathy disease Covid is much higher than acceptable by standards set in pre-capture culture. People over 60 and people with health issues imo were and are the only reasonable target population.
Now, with mass spread and immune escape, the karmic boomerang treatment is ivermectin for all.
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Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X22010283?via%3Dihub
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SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Induces Hemagglutination: Implications for COVID-19 Morbidities and Therapeutics and for Vaccine Adverse Effects
https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/23/24/15480

Posted by: suzan | Jan 4 2023 3:04 utc | 268

@ Peter AU1 | Jan 3 2023 10:24 utc | 243
They are using the term loosely.
One could say there is primary or level 1 “gene therapy” where the nuclear DNA structure itself is altered.
This might be done to eliminate unwanted coding which is thought to be causative of a specific disease.
Inserting amino acid code directly into DNA, which may ( or may not) then be transcribed into mRNA, which would then exit the nucleus, enter a ribosome and begin manufacturing a specific protein is very problematic as targeted treatment imo because of epigenetic effects — it is not predictable afaik, and because of the unknowns in disrupting the DNA in such a manner.
Then, secondary or level 2 (again, my terminology) “gene therapy” where a delivery mechanism (like lipid nanoparticles TM) encapsulates a “payload” of mRNA coding for a specific protein which is surmised as being necessary and missing from a patient for whatever reason. This is the level of so-called gene therapy of this mass societal pharma intervention.
Question. Why did they choose the spike protein for the payload given that they must have known that would concentrate enormous evolutionary pressure on that critical ACE2 targeting cell entry mechanism?

Posted by: suzan | Jan 4 2023 3:07 utc | 270

@ suzan | Jan 4 2023 3:08 utc | 271 with the ongoing contributions Covid related….thanks
Is there good definition and testing for “long” Covid?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 4 2023 3:17 utc | 272

@268 suzan | Jan 4 2023 3:04 utc
Catching up, I see you posted that study too. Good. It’s making the rounds.
I have to say, this has been a significant thread to kick off the new year. A lot of information being shared – and thank you to everyone posting.
I think the war being fought in the realm of public health is equally real with the Ukraine operation, and vastly more devastating to civilians. It’s ongoing every day, and would trigger lights and sirens across the board if it were ever opened to daylight.
It’s a very strange world we have come to live in suddenly, in the last three years. Thank goodness we can talk about it. And I note that we CAN talk about it. And I offer gratitude for that also, to the perhaps hard-pressed tavern-keeper.

Posted by: Grieved | Jan 4 2023 3:37 utc | 274

Below is a link that RSH provided on another thread and it belongs here where karlof1, myself and others can opine about it
https://www.greekmediagroup.com.au/zoltan-pozsar-the-dusk-of-the-petrodollar-the-dawn-of-petroyuan/
Thanks again RSH!

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 4 2023 3:49 utc | 276

I like what I am reading of the birth of the multi polar world in the Zoltan Pozsar piece linked to in 276
The new term is “Commodity encumbrance” and it will grow a global definition from the current one associated with China’s loans in non-oil exporting countries (GCC). Called “debt trap diplomacy,” many nations are forced into allegiance or giving preference to mainland China in the geopolitical landscape after being unable to repay borrowed investments from Beijing to finance their respective countries’ development projects. In the new world that means that the evolving relationship will be in renminbi.
In the greater world, Commodity encumbrance will represent the portion of a nations “Economic Geography” that is “encumbered” in the new monetary system
From the posting

Pozsar cited the Minister-in-charge of Integration and Macroeconomics of the Eurasian Economic Commission, Sergei Glazyev, who’s also in charge of developing BRICS’s “international reserve currency,” in determining how the new asset would be measured.
“Should [a nation] reserve a portion of [its] natural resources for the backing of the new economic system, [its] respective weight in the currency basket of the new monetary unit would increase accordingly, providing that nation with larger currency reserves and credit capacity,” Pozsar quoted Glazyev. “In addition, bilateral swap lines with trading partner countries would provide them with adequate financing for co-investments and trade financing.”
The project is similar in spirit to Xi’s proposal to the GCC countries (and its debt trap diplomacy): currency swap and downstream development for renminbi settlement.

I will go so far as posit, for example, that Turkey’s geographic location has “Commodity encumbrance” potential that is being invested in currently fitting this model

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 4 2023 4:07 utc | 278

@ psychohistorian 279
The location of Israel between the Mediterranean West the Persian Gulf East used to have , in Biblical times huge commercial value. They re-built the Templw on the proceeds. By any standards the geographical location of Russia between China and Europe part of the cause of the current deployment of USUKIS proxies and NATO troops in Ukraine.
Netanyahu’s outrageous claim at the UN that a Supposed Greater Israel exists in eternity in spite of all other claims, is flawed by the to many , irritating realities of religion. The Gospels and
The Qur’an testify that because of their refusal to recognise the Messiah and the Last Prophet , peace and blessings be upon them, the land of and religion of the Jews was abrogated on probation, until such time that they followed these two prophets that had been sent to them.
The conditions are set by Allah not by Netanyahu , Biden or Putin. Historical ties are irrelevant to the privilege of owning the land. In exactly the same way Chinese power in Africa or European ownership of factories in China is also conditional upon these Nations trading fairly between eachother and between humanity and the planet.
Today it is 12 degrees C in England in January , like Summer. Ukraine may not fully freeze this winter. The export of pollution away from the oversight of consumers will fail miserably as the realities of Climate change take hold.
The import of Nazism into Europe by the US and Soros will destroy credibility of USUKIS fatally.
My only point is that geopolitical power is linked to good practice not depravity.
The depravity of the US Empire will cause it very swiftly to fall, as happened to Britain, but they didnt learn their lesson, and to Israel which has dumbly ignored every lesson for 2000 years. Politics be damned, that is not the cause of power. Power is created by good polity not evil imho. China needs to fully understand this principle.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 4 2023 6:07 utc | 280

Question. Why did they choose the spike protein for the payload given that they must have known that would concentrate enormous evolutionary pressure on that critical ACE2 targeting cell entry mechanism?
Posted by: suzan | Jan 4 2023 3:07 utc | 270
This is all something obviously within your sphere of interest and education but when it comes to spike protein I also wonder about antivirus vaccines that us the genome sequence of the spike protein. Various government stats have led me to wonder about that.
I assume Campbell has a doctorate in nursing which would give him a broad medical knowledge but master of none. I have found nurses to have a far broader, or at least more open to the unknown than doctors.
With both covid and the politics surrounding it, and mRNA, we seem to be heading into the unknown.
In my platform censored comment the other day, I noted I had watched the mRNA stuff move from the theoretical to the anecdotal to the statistical.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 4 2023 6:34 utc | 282

psychohistorian 281
Rutting season now all year round.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 4 2023 7:22 utc | 284

And I offer gratitude for that also, to the perhaps hard-pressed tavern-keeper.
Posted by: Grieved | Jan 4 2023 3:37 utc | 274
I suspect that the tavern-keeper has to control the words and phrases here in large part because of the country he lives in. Somewhere here I read that it is his belief that gauges the level of moderation of the comments. Perhaps, I have no met him so can only speculate.
“Free Speech” has various flavors around the World, with different consequences when “broken”.
California, the Insane State is at it again.
https://twitter.com/picphysicians/status/1609101004024459265
I bet the media attention to the football player Hamlin will drop off exponentially, as has also happened to Artemis’s brilliant trip to the Moon with 3 plastic dummies.
What a Clown Show it is, once you see behind the masks.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jan 4 2023 7:59 utc | 286

Grieved | Jan 4 2023 6:39 utc | 283
Out of touch with the state of play in the country
Here in Italy a group of doctors, reinstated under Meloni after their anti-vax suspension, have opened a clinic specifically for the treatment of adverse effects from the covid jab. It’s entirely free.
On their website they say they can’t take any more reservations until at least Easter, because they’ve been overwhelmed by public interest.
I haven’t heard of this anywhere else, yet.

Posted by: john | Jan 4 2023 11:00 utc | 288

Thanks to all posting on the subject of the mechanism of the virus. This may seem unrelated, but since there was no comment when I posted on the ‘red lines’ forum, I will post it again here:

As far as redlines go, perhaps I can throw out one that may be happening up in Alaska, and others can feel free to debunk (if you do it politely). I was feeling a bit queasy looking at all the new cross-continent ‘red lines’ of potential trade movement – fast travel, etc. just wondering would that hasten some climate change that would bring on (perhaps inevitable with all other planetary ups and downs) a faster makeover than would be if slower progress were in prospect.
In other words, aspects of the changes in prospect don’t seem very in tune with nature. (Not that war is that, but I might be straying from the actual subject here, so apologies; ignore me and I’ll be fine about that.)
Here’s my link anyway, from nakedcapitalism.org today:
https://www.wired.com/story/
alaskas-arctic-waterways-are-turning-a-foreboding-orange/
Maybe the US and other American countries could pull back from looking for ‘red lines’ in other places, and hoist a conservationist flag on its own stretch of continent to provide a worthy example to the rest of the world.
It couldn’t hurt.

I will add that in putting my mind to work on the subject of ‘history’ as well as that of ‘psychological TINA’ (my term)I think folk are starting to go off the deep end. Perhaps it is Putin’s fault for stretching back to WW2 to describe Russia’s deep seated need to protect itself, but to my mind we can get lost in the weeds sometimes, and we need to deal with what is currently here and now, not as if it is ‘baked in.’ We ought to remember that previous historians were dealing with their own set of circumstances in describing what they felt had happened in the past. They are honorable but ought not to be sanctified as the new preachers of an “historical necessity”religion.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 4 2023 12:49 utc | 290

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 2 2023 6:30 utc | 98
Good call. I would direct attention to actuarial tables and sudden delta.
However, many correspondents have been chemically brainwiped by the diet that has been ramping up diabetes, cardiac disease and cancer and fail to see the connection with negative outcomes. Who controls food controls the masses.

Posted by: Stumpy | Jan 4 2023 13:26 utc | 292

suzan @ 270
Why choose the spike? I would suggest you refer that to Mike Yeadon, who has commented on exactly that many times. Yeadon is a vaccine developer and retired Pfizer VP and principal for respiratory and infectious at Pfizer. He states that no vaccine developer would choose the spike. All would choose the nuclear protein. The reasoning would have nothing to do with the LNP delivery vehicle.
When it makes no sense ask the military. Moderna is DARPA. DTRA seems involved at many levels.
The official story is Katlin Kariko working at Biontech came up with this. Kariko was for some years Robert Malone’s lab assistant. She has penned multiple gushing tributes to Malone. Malone states that he simply does not believe the person he knows did this work. She won’t speak to him now and other than a bizarre NYT interview she is in some cone of silence.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 4 2023 13:43 utc | 294

suzan, oldhippie, Peter AU1 and whoever else is involved –
been following your discussion with great interest. Thank you for your comments!
I’ve lately had troubles getting comments through myself, so I’ll just leave it at that.
Take care everyone!

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Jan 4 2023 15:12 utc | 296

oldhippie wrote: “The notion that all covid infected or even covid exposed experience some level of viremia and the virus finds places to lodge while slowly and stealthily reproducing is pure utter fear porn. ”
The fact that many people have fever and body aches is pretty good evidence that covid is systemic.
You seem to be of the opinion that any virus in the blood is some sort of fatal disease. The reality is that it happens all the time and usually with only mild adverse effects.
A virus is a very small thing and there are a lot of much larger things that need to get into the blood. In studies I have seen they say that spike protein is rarely detected in quantity in blood plasma. It is detected sticking to other parts of the blood like the inner lining of blood vessels, red and white blood cells and platelets. Typically the tests to detect SARS2 do not determine whether there is a viable virus. They only detect a few of the proteins which may just be remnants of the virus.
If you listen to doctors around the world who have been seeing and treating covid patients (as opposed to other doctors who are telling patients to stay home and wait until they become very ill) they all seem to agree on one thing, that covid is a two-stage disease. the first stage lasts about a week or less and is the period when the virus is entering cells and getting those cells to produce new copies of the virus. Eventually the immune system almost always clears out the virus and almost nobody is in danger of dying in this first viral replicating stage. The bad stuff happens to some people for reasons unknown after the viral replicating stage is over. There are many theories as to what is happening in this second stage, but abnormal blood clotting is the one thing that is almost always observed.
There is no virus in the blood as a result of vaccination as you seem to believe. The vaccines (in the US) have a finite amount of SAR2 like spike protein that is supposed to stay in the muscle and there it is supposed to cause the generation of antibodies that will eventually circulate in the blood that benefit the vaccinated if they are exposed to the SAR2 virus.

Posted by: jinn | Jan 4 2023 15:56 utc | 298

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 2 2023 6:43 utc | 102
RE: cloud colonialism
This is why China is wise to firewall themselves off as much as possible from big tech. And use industrial policy to develop their own tech. You may find this article I read on Seeking Alpha (a crowdsourced investment site) quite interesting as well. The author thinks that China may have made a breakthrough in lithography that could eventually put Intel out of business. Or relegate them to low-end applications. It seems like a real threat that I would expect the empire to not take lightly.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4567744-chinas-2025-strategy-emerges-top-2023-investment-story-contender

Posted by: Chris | Jan 4 2023 17:04 utc | 300