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January 1, 2023
The MoA Week In Review – (Not Ukraine) OT 2023-01

Last week's post on Moon of Alabama:

> For years, Western elites hypocritically assured us of their peaceful intentions, including to help resolve the serious conflict in Donbass. But in fact, they encouraged the neo-Nazis in every possible way, who continued to take military and overtly terrorist action against peaceful civilians in the people's republics of Donbass.

The West lied to us about peace while preparing for aggression, and today, they no longer hesitate to openly admit it and to cynically use Ukraine and its people as a means to weaken and divide Russia. We have never allowed anyone to do this and we will not allow it now. <


Other issues:

Syria:

Corruption:

Covid-19:

  • The Blind SpotThe Gauntlet
    From election surprises, to travel meltdowns, to sudden deaths, to hospital crises, no one seems to want to say the word "COVID"

Use as open (not related to Ukraine) thread …

Comments

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 2 2023 6:30 utc | 95
Man I would love to meet you in person because you’re so big a moron that I’m not sure how I’d react.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 2 2023 6:41 utc | 101

Below is a link to a posting at The Register that may intgerest barflys
The era of cloud colonialism has begun
Having claimed North America and Europe, the cloud giants hope to add Latin America and Africa to their empires

The quotes

….
“In Latin America, realizing the potential of digital technologies could generate an annual impact of $1.37 trillion in six of the region’s largest economies,” Google CEO Sundar Pichai wrote in a June blog post.
….
In his blog post earlier this year, Pichai did little to disguise this fact: “We’ve been investing to improve connectivity and increase Latin America’s access to digital services, including Google products, like search, Gmail, YouTube, as well as Google Cloud,” he wrote. Such is the nature of business, of course.
But as we’ve seen play out over the past decade, all of this comes at the cost of stifling local competition. In Europe, antitrust lawyers are still grappling with the outsized influence of foreign cloud providers. There, the big three control 72 percent of the market, according to a Synergy Research Group report published earlier this fall.
But the courts are slow, and these emerging regions are hungry to capitalize on the promise of the cloud. So of course they’ll welcome the cloud providers with open arms – leaving it to future generations to recognize their “gifts” as pox-laden blankets that poisoned any hope for home grown competition.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 2 2023 6:43 utc | 102

@98 Tom
Your eyes would burn in their sockets at my beauty.
Your eardrums would explode from the pitch of my voice.
Your nostrils would never inhale again a scent so pleasant as from my musk.
Are you sure you want to meet me?
I shudder to think what would happen to your paltry brain.
Happy New Year, commies, one-and-all!!!

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 2 2023 6:52 utc | 103

@NemesisCalling | Jan 2 2023 6:30 utc | 95
Your anticommunist rant does not sound any different from Ukrainian fascists. Quite similar to your antisemitic rants. Stop the Nazi crap.
As if covid had to do anything with communism. The Chinese communists were the first to tame the epidemic until the omicron wave start of 22. ‘It was the west who refused body temperature controls and other measures likely to prevent spread of the disease in the way it did. Whether that was planned by the Gates-Pfizer mafia, or just idiocy, or both, I do not know.
And yes, I disagree a lot with b concerning covid. In the beginning, he still had rational points seeing the machinations of Pfizer with their degenerate mRNA genetic treatment (it was the Biontech research leader who stated that this “vaccination” in fact was a gene therapy). Pfizer managed to get all competitors, vector vaccines first (vaxzevria from Oxford university, and Sputnik-V) out of the field as well as Chinese, Indian, and Cuban inactivated whole virus based traditional vaccines. There was a blatant corruption scheme between von der Leyen and the Pfizer CEO. All incidents with the vector vaccine were largely overblown though the incident rate of Pfizer mRNA vaccine was higher, by autumn 21, the vector vaccine was largely withdrawn from the market. Inactivated vaccines, ways cheaper and safer, were never admitted to western markets.
Btw., as much as I am in disagreement with that article, removal of a million voters from the electorate certainly has some consequence. And mind that the GOP won the popular vote impressively, though. Not that I am happy about these reactionary shitheads’ relative success, but Dems’ hubris is bit overblown.
As to “vaccine efficiency”, see here: https://www.querschuesse.de/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/u2005.webp (Germany: Death after vaccination [reported suspicion cases] 21 years vs 18 mths). So much about the “safe” Pfizer vaccinations.
Instead of discussing that, b somewhat flees into a “anti covidiot, anti-antivaxxer” stance brushing away any counter argument. Ok it is his bar, he is free to fire me, but I am bit sad about. He could do better, and usually does.

Posted by: aquadraht | Jan 2 2023 6:58 utc | 104

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 2 2023 6:13 utc | 92

“If it really was about “saving lives” rather than the global rollout of a mRNA medical intervention… then why ban other treatment that was known and is known to be effective. ?”

Because the gene therapies were rolled out under an EUA, or Emergency Use Authorization and the only way an EUA can be administered is if there are no other known effective treatments. By their very own rules the experimental therapies should never have been marketed.

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jan 2 2023 7:02 utc | 105

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 2 2023 6:52 utc | 100
I’d probably just choke you out after knocking you down, but that’s cool. Happy New Year, fascists, and you’ll all die eventually. Choice is how.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 2 2023 7:18 utc | 106

reminds me of lao tzu saying – the further you go, the less you know…
Posted by: james | Jan 2 2023 4:49 utc | 84
Did Lao Tzu really say exactly that? I doubt it
C’mon james, you’re smarter than to believe that.
Knowledge is cumulative. It enables you to question more critically.
Maybe learning gives you the impression that you know less but that simply can’t be, can it?
What happens when you learn is that you become aware of how much more there is to learn.
Knowledge isn’t a problem, ignorance is.
If you take the time to read Sorpion’s post @82 critically I think youll find it’s just gobblygook.
For example “…if you drill down to the details with sharp focus, everything gets more fuzzy.”
Now that’s fuzzy thinking!
If you drill down with sharp focus you learn particular things which you
then organize in better understanding and better know where to drill next.
The more you know the more you know. Ignorance is not bliss.
“It is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.”
– John Stuart Mill

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 2 2023 7:23 utc | 107

@101 aqua
Thx.
I disagree regarding your point about me sounding like the deluded-nationalists in Ukraine. Next generational Ukrainians since Soviet-centralization have a lot to fear wrt Russia, but this time that fear is unfounded. There are indeed coming at this situation all wrong vis-a-vis Russia There is cosmic irony in what is at foot in the Ukrainian mind in the Borderlands. Far from Putin and Russia being neo-Bolsheviks, they are more like Christian soldiers in an revanchist-Russia under the Tsar and Christendom. They are, in effect, undoing the lingering effect of Bolshevism once and for all and the Ukrainians are again the stupid piece of meat stuck between the two world powers in that retarded sandwich.
When the Bolsheviks upended the whole agrarian system in Ukraine in the 1930 to meet Stalin’s need to mechanize to compete with the modern west, the Jews led the way and deprived these people of their entire livelihood, the equivalent of genocide, exorcising along the way many ill-feelings against the Christians who they felt had persecuted them.
And here we have the Ukrainians being used again as a piece of meat in this retarded sandwich by western finance Jews. The Ukrainians can not catch a break, but this time, as Marx said, history is repeating as comedy, and it is cosmically-ironic that they can not see they are being used by the Talmudists.
The horrific ordeal of the Ukrainian in the 1930s has permanently, it would seem, warped their senses. They can not tell friend from foe. Like a rabid beast, if it does not turn its guns westward in defiance, Russia should put it down.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 2 2023 8:32 utc | 108

@NemesisCalling | Jan 2 2023 8:32 utc | 105
No wonder that you are parroting the Ukrainian Nazis’ “narrative”, or forgery of history, of the tragedy of 1932/33. Scholarly historic work shows that it is all crap and lies.
When the nutrition crisis and famine in the USSR, not only Ukrainian SSR, but also Volga region, Kasakhstan, Western Siberia, and to wide extent in the whole country, occurred, the banderite crowd in Galicia and Volyn was under Polish rule, and had not much to do with. The core area of the famine in the Ukrainian SSR was in no way in the Western part where ukronazi ideology had influence, rather in the oblasts Charkov, Poltava, Lugansk, Cherson, Odessa, and to some extent Kiev and Shitomir. Most of the peasants dying were ethnic Russian. They never to any serious extent adhered or were influenced by OUN. The German historian Franziska Bruder in her doctor thesis about the OUN/UPA describes an event when OUN agitators tried to proselytize in the Donbass in the 1940s, and were chased out with a beating. The villagers said those were probably Germans speaking a Polish with a funny accent.
The reasons of the 1932 crop failure had a lot to do with drought, fungus infections of the grain and the seed stocks, but also ofc with the consequences of collectivization. Clearly, there was a failure of governance, but certainly no “genocide”, much less against Ukrainians as an ethnic. Outside the realm of Galicia and Volyn, Ukrainian was a rural russian dialect, or many of them, rather than a language or an ethnic. Ukrainian nationalism bloomed under Polish rule where the Sanacya dictatorship oppressed and harrassed all ethnics non Polish.
Your rant stinks Nazi, it does not explain anything. Outside Galicia and Volyn, OUN was considered Nazi executioners, and invaders. All the “Holodomor” fake was made up in the 1980s. You do not even find the term in any contemporary document from 1932 to the late 1970s. Even the drivel of Robert Conquest, paid work for Canadian Ukronazis, does not mention it.

Posted by: aquadraht | Jan 2 2023 9:31 utc | 109

re 16:05
it’s hard to reintegrate successful soldiers back into peaceful lives.
Vietnam did it. How? (all the socialist camp kind of helped, giving them work / educational adventures abroad. what stigmatisation those warriors suffered, my head hangs in shame).
I wonder how the Swiss did it. How did they transform all those formidable mercenaries for the holy roman empire, Italian city states etc once the political map was settled? without them becoming a destabilising force in-country or out, as Kadafi’s guard

Posted by: glupi | Jan 2 2023 9:42 utc | 110

Tom_Q_Collins #40
“Did everyone get their flu vaccine?”
No. Never have and likely never will. Have you?

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 2 2023 9:42 utc | 111

Melaleuca #92

If it really was about “saving lives” rather than the global rollout of a mRNA medical intervention… then why ban other treatment that was known and is known to be effective. ?
All of us, vaxxed or vexxed need to keep demanding answers.

Exactly that. And they also banned other conventional vaccine forms when there was no possible medical reason to do so. People who want answers will need to be EXTREMELY insistent.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 2 2023 9:57 utc | 112

@Tom_Q_Collins | Jan 1 2023 22:21 utc | 40

Did everyone get their flu vaccine?

Everybody was kung flu fighting

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 2 2023 10:00 utc | 113

Maybe we could find it in our hearts to respect Turkish leaders’ desire that their country be known not as a fowl (turkey), but as Türkiye, or more practically, easier to write Turkiye. It can be fun to check which media, with which sponsors, uses each variant
Ye shall know them by their words.
beware the impact of word choice on the subconscious

Posted by: glupi | Jan 2 2023 10:06 utc | 114

@106 aqua
The reason you did not hear much from the west and in the U.S. regarding the culpabity of Soviet centralization of the agrarian system in Ukraine is that much of the western world was trying to get along with the Soviets, by investing in them with the hope that trade could expand greatly, thus raising all boats out of the worldwide depression.
FDR appointed Bullitt as first Soviet Ambassador in 1932 in the hopes of breaking the ice and getting the U.S.S.R on the global team. Bullitt soured quickly when he arrived in Moscow with the Soviets and, leading up to the war, was pushed aside for being anti-communist in favor of Davies who looked the other way or through rosy-colored glasses at Stalin.
The point is that there was no reason to make U.S.S.R the villain at that time or belabor their culpability in exacerbating the famine in eastern Europe. The west certainly was not interested in taking the side of the nationalists in Ukraine, not when they knew who had the power there and when also no one in the west was interested in a war with Stalin so soon after Versailles and still caught in an economic depression.
So your point is moot and is actually better explained by the phenomenon of the Soviet Union itself with its system of concealing much of anything the west would disagree with.
Your point that some of western Ukraine was under Polish rule also does not excuse the Soviets. There was still an area between the industrialized east and Galacia that was caught between a rock and a hard place and who suffered mightily. Rather, this speaks to the point that the further west you go, the more chauvinist and the more likely you will find the people who are egging on the conflict currently, pushing the Slavic Ukrainians forward into the grinder by whispering into their ear that the Russians are neo-Bolsheviks.
Here is a short video on the subject from some time ago (80s) that I recently viewed.
Thanks for the discussion.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 2 2023 10:14 utc | 115

Disregard the above link. It is for the wrong video document.
Here is the correct one.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 2 2023 10:18 utc | 116

@glupi | Jan 2 2023 10:06 utc | 111
Here it was always known as Tyrkia, which is rather close to Türkiye. For that matter, the name of my country is Norge or Noreg, both variants are official, maybe we should ask the world to respect that 🙂

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 2 2023 10:21 utc | 117

conspiracy theory alert
it’s most coincidentally (un)fortunate that biontech is a German company.
Yet, with Turkish scientists. Male and female. As their public face.
This covers all PR bases to insure its popular success, serve the current agenda. And, just in case?, prepares the retreat – ‘it wasn’t us, the German elites! It were the forriners, gov’nor! burn Them all!’

Posted by: glupi | Jan 2 2023 10:26 utc | 118

Just to put things in context!
Covid mortality.
0-19 years: 0.0003%
20-29 years: 0.002%
40-49 years: 0.035%
50-59 years: 0.123% (flu)
60-69 years: 0.506% (bad flu)

Posted by: jpc | Jan 2 2023 10:57 utc | 119

migueljose 3
Last week a Muslim friend ridiculed my suggestion that Saudi Arabia funds terrorism after 9/11. ” How can that happen?” is the usual way of defending the un-provable.
The ongoing use of proxy terrorism has brought the world to the brink of nuclear war. We see now that the US isn’t choosy about the beliefs of the terrorists so long as terrorism is a tool of international regime change.
Contrast this with the MSM narratives about peace and international law and we can see clearly the hypocrisy of the US and the hypocrisy of Saudi Arabia. Things are so bad in the mosques of Britain that you are made to feel an outsider, kafir, if you do not support Islamic State’s terrorism against civilians ( e.g. in Sri Lanka and by Turkey ongoing in Syria ).
I read the Indian article about tripartite Turkey – Syria negotiations held by Russia, in which the US use of division, black ops and terror is seen as the main enemy of peace. But I don’t agree with any
analysis from India when in front of my eyes in the British mosque I see Indian imams as the principle supporters of terrorism.
The article repeats the same bs again and again thatvthe USvisvthevonly problem and that Obama lied to Erdogan after appointing him the main mover in the war against Syria. Let’s be clear about this, Islam doesn’t allow any criminal to avoid blame by sheltering behind another party. Whoever supports terror is 100% responsible for terror and who opposes it is 100% clear of blame.
Thexarticle sympathises with the emotions of betrayal supposedly felt by the architect of Syria’s total destruction, and with the emotions of the Turkish people who elected Erdogan nbecause of millions of refugees caused by themselves and their dumb leader.
Blessed are the peacemakers, including Vladimir Putin, Medvedev and Lavrov. I hope they know both the Gospel teachings and the Islamic teachings I have mentioned about responsibility in Islam.
How is it possible to bring peace to Syria when the US and Turkey both want to colonise it through terror?
This short-cut to political change , terror, will put each and every supporter of terror into the fire of Hell, Muslim or non-Muslim, imam or conscript, supporter or mujahid. Terrorising civilians is completely forbidden in Islam as a means of achieving anything, even stealing, let alone butchering critics applying for a visa.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 2 2023 11:03 utc | 120

re 23:51, Melaleuca
Andrew Tate. The message and the messenger. if Luis Carol were a pedophile, should i boycott Alice in Wonderland. (damn! such quandaries are so much easier as puzzles of the past!)

Posted by: glupi | Jan 2 2023 11:22 utc | 121

it’s not the deaths i fear, but the rising cases of Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s. Ah, to have been a fly on that zuber damask, eavesdropping while Pharma argues for eternal patients, pension Fund managers for dead people. tails you lose, heads i win

Posted by: glupi | Jan 2 2023 11:42 utc | 122

Aw b, what a pleasant New Year’s Day surprise, that you posted a week in review!! Many thanks for working the holiday. I don’t know why I bother posting on Covid, but I’ll say that it was a perspective worth considering in that piece you linked to: that the deaths of the past few years have changed the electorate in the US, specifically hypothesizing that deaths of seniors during the Covid years has removed a large chunk of conservative voters from the US populace.
“When the novel coronavirus, SARS-Co-2, which causes COVID-19, began to spread, we didn’t know what to expect. It quickly became obvious that COVID-19 was a serious infection. It also turned out that severe COVID-19 is viral sepsis.”
https://www.sepsis.org/sepsisand/coronavirus-covid-19/

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jan 2 2023 11:47 utc | 123

117
The total absence of leadership in the West is caused by the US UK Israel and Saudi Arabia normalising terror. This means that nobody thinks there see any adverse consequences to supporting terror.
Do people not understand that Iran’s destruction of Yemen is an existential threat to the Terror Kingdom? That Ukranian Nazism is an existential threat to both US and European civilisation?
Really the sponsors of terror against civilian populations are in total denial of the existential threats of other people’s terrorism against themselves. Who lives by terror , dies by terror. Our terrorist government will ship all asylum seekers to Rwanda . Do they not see the message that sends to Africa? If we are to be the dumping ground for your victims of your aggression around the world, why do we Africans not dump our problems on Europe?
If you think you can get away with using us as a human dustbin, why don’t we start to use you as our human dustbin?
Indeed Allah has mercy written on His Heart, and only causes His creation difficulties in order for them to understand before the Day of Judgement who is their Lord. Bypassing God’s rules is a pointless exercise, because He is able to enforce your bad behaviour, back onto yourselves.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 2 2023 11:55 utc | 124

glupi | Jan 2 2023 11:42 utc | 119
it’s not the deaths i fear, but the rising cases of Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s
Not to fear, dude, just stock up on those little blue pills. Courtesy of Pfizer.

Posted by: john | Jan 2 2023 12:00 utc | 125

re 5:38 psychohistorian
may RCEP be Japan’s and South Korea’s wayout of their dependency on western clients towards sovereignty

Posted by: glupi | Jan 2 2023 12:02 utc | 126

Nemesis still can fabulate his Nazi-Dreck on this blog. And you banned vk again for what, b?

Posted by: v | Jan 2 2023 12:04 utc | 127

Possibly the result of declining facilities accompanying old age but I cannot recall hearing the term “flu vaccine” until quite recently: according to my recollection, it used to be called “the flu shot.”

Posted by: spudski | Jan 2 2023 12:18 utc | 128

re 10:21
Norwegian, to my knowledge Norway has no pejorative connotations in English. Unlike turkey. You wouldn’t like it if a US president pardons your country every year on thanksgiving, etc
And here I’ll repeat myself from the ‘Lack of good analyses contributes….’ comments:
‘someone’ powerful loved puns and uses them to influence the great subconscious, English being the lingua franca to stay
sunni = sunny? (instead of sooni?)
shiite = shit?
The two had quite different, generally accepted spellings in the 19th century.
As shown in the most illuminating works of John William Kaye, white-superpower-burden apologist-in-chief then

Posted by: glupi | Jan 2 2023 12:26 utc | 129

I wonder what is the motivation for the burning of cars and rioting in France?

Posted by: jared | Jan 2 2023 12:32 utc | 130

Posted by: jared | Jan 2 2023 12:32 utc | 127
Utopia ain’t all it was promoted to be?

Posted by: jpc | Jan 2 2023 12:39 utc | 131

Giyane (11:03), in the name of the future, we must find it in our hearts to forgive those who have erred in the past and now see the light / try to join the new winners.
Not forget, no. Move forward, hopefully to non-versailles peace. Based on mutual respect.
Build bridges of gold for retreating enemies. ‘He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.’ Every tradition believes in this.
Actions have unintended consequences. Centuries of hindus-as-nirvana-symbols are being squandered in months by Narendra Modi & cie

Posted by: glupi | Jan 2 2023 12:45 utc | 132

@glupi | Jan 2 2023 12:26 utc | 126

Norwegian, to my knowledge Norway has no pejorative connotations in English.

That is not the point, at least not the way I see it. The point is more to refer to countries, cities, persons by their proper names. That is being respectful.

Unlike turkey. You wouldn’t like it if a US president pardons your country every year on thanksgiving, etc

I couldn’t care less. I have no idea what “thanksgiving” is, and I have no urge to find out.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 2 2023 12:46 utc | 133

maybe we should ask the world to respect that 🙂
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 2 2023 10:21 utc | 114
NO!
Then I would have to change my name to geron and my moniker to geroninoreg.
That is, unless I went with Egron.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 2 2023 12:47 utc | 134

I wonder what is the motivation for the burning of cars and rioting in France?
Posted by: jared | Jan 2 2023 12:32 utc | 127
They always burn cars on New Year’s Eve in France, and rioting is part of the evening’s entertainment.

Posted by: laguerre | Jan 2 2023 12:53 utc | 135

:))) john 12:00
what colour /size the pills we take for the side effects of the blue ones? Can they be colour-coordinated? Please! Please!
suddenly a flood of encouraging, yet not quite totally successful research on Alzheimer’s appears in daily mail, my guilty pleasure.
My pet theory is psychosomatic – we humans retreat into fantasy worlds (autism, addictions, Alzheimer’s) for lack of loving, continuous attention. First as a call for help. Then, some, permanently

Posted by: glupi | Jan 2 2023 12:57 utc | 136

PeterAU1 @ 50
Yu could do that but it wouldn’t care, it is a committee. An office pool. Sucks in many by being reasonable and even useful in certain directions. Basically there is no one home for personal stuff that you mention.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 2 2023 13:05 utc | 137

jared 12:32
bored able-bodied hopelessness + entitledness + permissiveness + why-don’t-I-drive-veyron?
instagram rich kids has a lot to answer for. For the first time in history the have-nots see the haves and their lifestyle up and close, yet just out of reach

Posted by: glupi | Jan 2 2023 13:07 utc | 138

12:46
Exactly, Norwegian! that’s the key – the proper names and who decides what ‘the proper name’ is.
In this case the citizens of the country concerned ask for respect, to change a historical wrong.
P. S. I am middle-aged Bulgarian, Orthodox. No one raised in such traditions can be accused of fondness for the smug heirs of the Ottoman empire, trust me.
But it’s a question of principle. What kind of a new world do we want to build? one word at a time

Posted by: glupi | Jan 2 2023 13:18 utc | 139

@ Posted by: laguerre | Jan 2 2023 12:53 utc | 132
@ Posted by: glupi | Jan 2 2023 13:07 utc | 135
Thank you, both for these response.
Sounds like lawless behavior resulting from frustration and some sense of injustice possibly resulting from lack of something better to do?
Out of curiousity I check Le Monde and L’Humanite and I dont see it mentioned on the front page and I have trouble to navigate in french.
Maybe its me, but I get sense of global coordinated censorship for our own good.

Posted by: jared | Jan 2 2023 13:20 utc | 140

Well anyway, so there is not a clear issue / recent event to which they are responding.
BTW I should mention I understand there is an antiwar protest being organized jointly by the Libertarian Party and a self-described “left” organization – a bipartison effort on Feb 12 in Washington, DC.

Posted by: jared | Jan 2 2023 13:26 utc | 141

Our host has been atrociously wrong about all things covid.
He keeps on being wrong by choosing the most hilarious piece about covid to share with us.
Some things never change.

Posted by: DG | Jan 2 2023 13:29 utc | 142

@ Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 2 2023 12:46 utc | 130
I am sorry, but for your own good, and because it pleases me:
Thansgiving is simple act of giving “thanks” (grateful) to whoever* for the good things (crops in particular) that we have received (our good fortune) over the year past. It is originally a pagan/Chistian fusion event. Maybe largely a fabrication, but does not realy on any factual or historical justification. Of course it has some mixed fealings as ultimately we slaughtered the other two parties to the celebration. But sometimes things are what we make of them – are greater than the facts would support. It is possible to be too cynical, old man. All of the world could and should celebrate Thanksgiving in their own way, likely most do. What is left of humanity if we dont appreciate the good things that come to us, could be in private, does not require any expenditures.

Posted by: jared | Jan 2 2023 13:44 utc | 143

“If you drill down with sharp focus you learn particular things which you then organize in better understanding and better know where to drill next.”
Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 2 2023 7:23 utc | 104
You seem to be in denial about what the quantum crowd discovered. The more they got into particles (‘drilling down with sharp focus’) the more the material world they thought they were studying got fuzzier and fuzzier.
A simple example: if there were such a thing as an electron microscope which could show several inches of reality at a time (versus only a micron or two), and if you could examine the edge of a rock that way, you would find that you could not determine where the rock ends and the space around it begins. On the super-microscopic (‘drilled down in detail’) level, there is continuous flux back and forth between the seeming inside and outside of the rock. And also inside the rock everything is continously streaming, there is no solid mass to be seen anywhere. Thus, there is no discernible entity within nor any discernible boundary between one discrete entity and another, which is what I meant by things getting fuzzy. The same would be true if you could examine our bodies that way. Although we perceive ourselves as discrete, solid, independent entities, we are not. We are fuzzy.
When we examine current affairs, we usually do so through the lens of language. With this topic we have words like ‘virus’ or ‘pandemic’ or ‘covid19.’ These words at first glance seem to have clear meanings. But when you drill down into the nature of what exactly is a virus and how to we identify one as the three articles I presented did, you find that it gets more and more difficult to pin things down and the word ‘covid19’ that you thought had a clear meaning, actually may not.
It gets worse: because as we can deduce from those articles, it turns out that ALL of the testing done world-wide for covid, including in China which many here regard as the best of the best in this matter, used ‘markers’ (things that often appear when a virus is present but are not actually the virus) because ‘pure’ virus samples were not available. The whole world was pushed to receive a new technology into their bloodstreams based on these tests. And the more you drill down into the details of those tests and the coronavirus they are supposed to be testing for, indeed the fuzzier the underlying truth becomes.
So the truth is that reality is often the opposite of your simplistic description. It might gall you to discover this, but humble oysters teach us that from initial irritation, repeated over time and endured with patience, can develop pearls of beauty and wisdom.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 2 2023 13:51 utc | 144

I appreciate the notion of referring to countries by their official names, but this does pose problems. I suppose Kongeriket Norge is okay if we can get the pronunciation right. Italia? Deutschland? Easy peasy. But we start having problems with Sakartvelo, Mongol Shuudan, and Satalanalat Pasatipatai Pasason Lao, and Confoederatio Helvetica.

Posted by: malenkov | Jan 2 2023 13:55 utc | 145

Bigger question. Why on this site of all places, where analysing propganda is one of the mainstays do so many continue to believe whatever the government tells them if it concerns health. Do you think there is a government anywhere who cares about you? A government that tells truth?
Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 1 2023 20:31 utc | 19
Very good observation.
The pharmaceutical industrial complex is just as devious.

Posted by: jpc | Jan 2 2023 14:45 utc | 146

>…”cited by the US FDA in October 2020
>October 2020.
Vax here was only preliminary at that date.
Data from mid- late 2022 is what’s relevant…
And really, it’s more likely 3-5-7-25 years before it can be properly accessed with long term data (presuming data is optimally captured and recorded…
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jan 2 2023 5:32 utc | 89

Agreed. My intended point was that it’s been more than two years since the medical establishment first realized it would need to suppress evidence that the COVID shots were neither safe nor effective and to fabricate evidence that they were both safe and effective.

Posted by: David Levin | Jan 2 2023 14:49 utc | 147

Posted by: james | Jan 2 2023 4:49 utc | 84
Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 2 2023 7:23 utc | 104
The quote is also attributed to Omar Khayyam, the great polymath Iranian poet of Rubeyat (quatrains).
He said: the more I know, is the less I know.
He was referring to, the more he learned about thing, the more questions arose.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jan 2 2023 14:50 utc | 148

In addition to the widespread arson in France, I see there was also many incidents of fires in Germany where public attacked firefighters and police. Is this really juvenile high spirits or is there a specific problem being supressed?
What ever came of the trial and investagation into the violent events at the Bataclan Nightclub?

Posted by: jared | Jan 2 2023 14:54 utc | 149

In addition to the widespread arson in France,
Posted by: jared | Jan 2 2023 14:54 utc | 146
didn’t make it into the French press, so not regarded as very serious.
The Bataclan trials have been on this last year.

Posted by: laguerre | Jan 2 2023 15:01 utc | 150

@ Posted by: laguerre | Jan 2 2023 15:01 utc | 147
Again I appreciate the feedback.
But I think it was something like 450 cars were set fire.
That seems significant. Theres a message there somewhere.
Just trying to understand.

Posted by: jared | Jan 2 2023 15:13 utc | 151

Glupi 129
I haven’t noticed USUKIS or Saudi Arabia apologising for 40 years of Islamist terror. They think they’re clever for lying. Two possibilities for Saudi Arabia, either political marriages of convenience , muta’ah, like opec + Russia, or , the Saudis want access to Damascus by being nice to Assad and Russia.
As for Turkey, why don’t they give the Kurdish third of their country back to the Kurds. This would solve the problem created by the brutality of the Ottoman and British Empires. The British broke up Kurdistan for refusing to grovel to Britain. The US Empire will break up Europe for the same reason. Already the US is constructing a Baltic EU to house the expected trade train from China.
I see the Kashoggi murder as co-perpetrated by Turkey and Saudi Arabia, both equally as despicable as eachother.
God help us if Russia gives access to the Messiah pbuh when he arrives in Damascus.
Turkey and Saudi Arabia will both falsely accuse him of insurrection and lock him up forever.
So not forgetting, not forgiving, until such time as we see some Taubah/ change of direction on the ground. No wonder the yanks think they’re a superpower when Islam is represented by criminals.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 2 2023 15:25 utc | 152

Posted by: jared | Jan 2 2023 15:13 utc | 148
It’s true that the number of cars fired is going up, and there’s usually one or two round here. I think my neighbour said last year there were 19 or 20 in my suburb of Paris, but she tends to exaggerate, like they all do, to make out they’re in danger. It’s better not to leave your nice car on the street, though.

Posted by: laguerre | Jan 2 2023 15:32 utc | 153

Two possibilities for Saudi Arabia, either political marriages of convenience , muta’ah, like opec + Russia, or , the Saudis want access to Damascus by being nice to Assad and Russia.
Posted by: Giyane | Jan 2 2023 15:25 utc | 149
Saudi is a Sunni/Shi’a thing. Wahhabis are extreme Sunnis, like Da’ish. They hate the Shi’a, and will support anti-Shi’a movements, like against the Asad Alaouites.

Posted by: laguerre | Jan 2 2023 15:39 utc | 154

The more they got into particles (‘drilling down with sharp focus’) the more the material world they thought they were studying got fuzzier and fuzzier.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 2 2023 13:51 utc | 141
The material world did not change at all.
Out.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 2 2023 15:50 utc | 155

jared (12:32),
maybe the French state was too successful in its fight against demographic decline.
With each extra child families got better living conditions; nursery /kindergarten places guaranteed for every child; good education + extracurricular activities; even protection against bad food ads aimed at children etc.
Such a society ends up with adults who achieved success in their childhood, but there are no respectable jobs for the great majority of them. This embitters the soul. (to think that socialist countries were much mocked for low labour productivity! The irony)

Posted by: glupi | Jan 2 2023 16:06 utc | 156

jared 13:20
kind of protection against copycats? Some ideas are better smothered at birth lest they contaminate immature minds?
If it isn’t on TV / front page, it hasn’t happened. Yemen, Palestine, Libya and too many others in suffering can testify this works for negligible areas. When you are a g7 country? Not so much

Posted by: glupi | Jan 2 2023 16:16 utc | 157

Laguerre 151
Islam.is not an extremist religion. It does not start wars, but defends itself against attacks from Shi’a sponsored by USUKIS.
Saudi Arabia could disconnect from USUKIS although it would pay a heavy financial price. The only reason it won’t disconnect from USUKIS is that it has made do many enemies inside Islam and inside Islam by illegally supporting terrorism. Who will stir to the defence of such a monster?
The Shi’a would make a better job of looking after Islam than these terrorist murderers.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 2 2023 16:22 utc | 158

Quite, malenkov, quite! (13:55)
Maybe the criterion could be whether Sakartvelo has de facto expressed a request for change. Maybe English makes me too lazy and some genuine cultural diversity wouldn’t come amiss (I can’t identify any of the countries you mentioned. For shame!)

Posted by: glupi | Jan 2 2023 16:27 utc | 159

@ waynorinorway | Jan 2 2023 7:23 utc | 104
the book has many translations and there is a theory lao tzu was actually not a person, but a group of people whose ideas were captured in these writings…
-Lao Tzu-
(Tao Te Ching, chapter 47, translation by Stephen Mitchell)
Without opening your door,
you can open your heart to the world.
Without looking out your window,
you can see the essence of the Tao.
The more you know,
the less you understand.
The Master arrives without leaving,
sees the light without looking,
achieves without doing a thing.
i like the translation i read many years ago – the further you go, the less you know… i really believe this waynorinorway..i feel scorpion was hitting on the same thing in his post which i addressed very briefly.. i also appreciate scorpion has not swamped the threads with much posting.. i think there is room for us all here, even if we have to agree to disagree.. i especially admire you too, fwiw..
@ Sakineh Bagoom | Jan 2 2023 14:50 utc | 145
thanks sakineh… i know very little about Omar Khayyam, to my own shame! i spent too much time reading mullah nasrudden stories, and those are from turkey not iran!! i wonder if omar had read the tao teh ching? there was much shared info and knowledge between different cultures deep in the past.. i have been surprised by this in my studying astrology.. i got into hellenistic astrology for a time – the period of around 200- 600AD… i know there was much shared knowledge between persia and india back in this time frame, but i am not so sure of the exposure of these cultures to chinese culture.. although -i imagine it was also shared… just think! a world where knowledge and insights are shared with others! we can dream…

Posted by: james | Jan 2 2023 16:31 utc | 160

jared | Jan 2 2023 14:54 utc | 146
“I see there was also many incidents of fires in Germany where public attacked firefighters and police. Is this really juvenile high spirits or is there a specific problem being supressed?”
Do you mean New Year’s Eve? I highly doubt there was anything going on that we didn’t have on any other New Year’s Eve, except of course for the ones during the pandemic.

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Jan 2 2023 16:37 utc | 161

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A79uneUEfjM&feature=youtu.be
Just received this link from a friend in the US. The information war has clearly shifted into high gear. I propose that all barflies who can refute any or all points made in this video post links here. To give an example, he says that 250,000 civilians have been killed in Ukraine and one million children have been kidnapped and sent to Siberia. But it’s much more sophisticated than figures like that might suggest.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Jan 2 2023 16:38 utc | 162

suzan @ 63
Think a minute about what is quoted. Respiratory viruses will not do any of that unless viremia has occurred. That means virus in bloodstream. Any who have had covid with viremia were very very ill. Nearly all who contracted covid before the vax arrived and very close to 100% of anyone young cleared the virus fairly easily. Any who had viremia were very very ill and they would know they had been very very ill.
Viremia is possible with any vaccine and the current jab indisputably, by Pfizer’s own data, goes to bloodstream.
Put two and two together and doubt what you read. If an author or group of authors with whatever credentials present evident nonsense it is nonsense.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 2 2023 16:46 utc | 163

@ Posted by: laguerre | Jan 2 2023 15:32 utc | 150
Well, by way of comparison as baseline sort of, here on outskrts of New York City, in NJ is a fairly poor, run down, typically corrupt city. A guy I met recently from Belorus, noted that being from a poor country, conditions are worse here.
But we dont have regular arson, some “minor” vandalism,yes – damage to benches and signs. There is a lot of driving recklessly and even stealing cars for parts or “joy-rides” (is pretty bad). Stealing of catalytic converters and other easily accessed parts is problem.
NYC itself is leaning to foregoing enforcement of laws – it is expensive and seen as discriminatory. It is claimed that there is new class of law enforcement leaders that feel that there is excess of law enforcement leading to too many people encarcerated. So theyve started releasing people from jail, including violent criminals.
I suspect they want a certain amount of anarchy to distract from changes to our living conditions – reduction in quality of life and in protections of liberty and in responsiveness of government to populace (i.e. tyranny).

Posted by: jared | Jan 2 2023 16:48 utc | 164

i know there was much shared knowledge between persia and india back in this time frame, but i am not so sure of the exposure of these cultures to chinese culture.. although -i imagine it was also shared… just think! a world where knowledge and insights are shared with others! we can dream…
Posted by: james | Jan 2 2023 16:31 utc | 157
Yes james, I dream of learning more every day.
Before 1947 creation of Pakistan, India and Iran were neighbors, and they did what neighbors do: share. (read: Persis, and the Raj)
As for Khayyam, HE was the man. You name it, he had a hand in. He designed the Iranian calendar, which is loosely based on Julian, but with the distinction of having two extra decimal points in the calculations, which makes it scores more accurate.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jan 2 2023 16:57 utc | 165

I find some discussion of the violence in Berlin.
Seem significant https://tinyurl.com/2p8f2ykn

Posted by: jared | Jan 2 2023 16:58 utc | 166

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 2 2023 10:18 utc | 113
Thank you for the link. I appreciate how so much of the film features first-hand accounts.
Of course many here, who have very different notions about what happened then, will choose not to view such a production but even were they to do so they would regard all the people in it as liars and ‘nazi apologists’ or whatever.
One factoid from the early part: the harvest in 1931 or 32 was sufficient to feed everyone in the country for two years. But because of Stalin’s policies they were not allowed to access it. Some was locked away and rotted but they were not allowed to partake. And yet Soviet apologists insist it was a natural disaster and accuse those who claim otherwise, including people like the eyewitnesses in this film, of being liars. I believe, based on reading done decades ago which is admittedly not necessarily complete but which this film also proposes, that the mass starvation was the result of deliberate genocide. The film doesn’t really go into why this was done, nor who or which groups were the driving force, probably because it would be politically incorrect to name them.
So much damage is done in the world by people with strongly held opinions which they pick up from third parties. Concepts scream loudly in their minds. Individuals are their own worst brainwashers. Once a belief has taken hold, it is almost impossible to dislodge.
And so it goes…

Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 2 2023 17:11 utc | 167

Re: covid and vaxes
It was obvious since the very beginning that there were a LOT of very fishy things, things that made me go hmm… ultimately things only got fishier and fishier, which is not the same as « fuzziness », as the fishiness was obviously politically-related. NOT quantum physics, but politicians and rich people.
I never got vaxed, cause it was too obviously fishy. Like a bunch of people saying « walk around this corner » while acting REALLY REALLY suspicious and shady, red flags galore. I don’t need to know what’s around that corner, to know better than to go there.
Regarding the covid itself, I just exercised reasonable caution. I caught covid anyway, and it has made my asthma a bit worse, and left me an annoying catchy dry thing in my throat, but that’s about it.

Posted by: Featherless | Jan 2 2023 17:18 utc | 168

Giyane 15:25
– better apologies in deed, than public naming and shaming.
– Muta’ah relationships indeed. It has become such a cruel concept, it contains its own punishment. The slaves destroy the very being of the slave-holder.
– The weakening of the world policeman, USA, opens the gates for a free-for-all settling of historic grievances. There are plenty of those all around the globe. Each party believes fervently in its own truth.
Yet, what is best for the Child, Man and Woman in disputed territories? Peace or war?
– the Kurds are being depicted as not one people, but many tribes, engaged in internecine warfare, each group led by a corrupt clan. The most likely scenario is when given sovereignty, they’ll keep on destroying each other for years, as in many ex-colonies. Look what is happening with the Jews, despite their rich scholarly heritage, despite the existence of external enemies
– some say Kashoggi was a shill, well paid to keep Saudi Arabian leadership on tenterhooks. Like Fethullah Gulen
===
Theory and Practice.
I believe I owe you an apology, Giyane, for bumbling in with clichés

Posted by: glupi | Jan 2 2023 17:21 utc | 169

NYC itself is leaning to foregoing enforcement of laws – it is expensive and seen as discriminatory. It is claimed that there is new class of law enforcement leaders that feel that there is excess of law enforcement leading to too many people encarcerated. So theyve started releasing people from jail, including violent criminals.
Posted by: jared | Jan 2 2023 16:48 utc | 161

This trend toward gutting law enforcement has been seen in many US cities and seems to be systemic, as indicated by numerous Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests calling for defending the police, the failure of national media to report violence committed by BLM, and praise for BLM at the 2020 Democratic Party Convention.

Posted by: David Levin | Jan 2 2023 17:31 utc | 170

Covid virus is real
I’ve had it twice – first at the beginning of 2020 when it was supposedly just in China.
Second at the end of 2021 – about 22 months later.
In between I was exposed to daily life – mostly without mask, distancing
Never took the vaccine. Still haven’t.
Not because I didn’t believe in it but because I Knew that I had acquired immunity after the first infection.
The second infection has got just about everyone now – including all who have had multiple jabs.
The second must have been a ‘new’ release , because my immune system was seeing off all the variants of the first.
Now had no further infection for a year- will there be a new whole new variant again?
Why are not all vaccines available to anyone? I do believe there would have been some protection offered to these vulnerable people from some form of the vaccine.
The WHO is wholly privately funded and owned.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 2 2023 17:31 utc | 171

Posted by: james | Jan 2 2023 16:31 utc | 160
“- the further you go, the less you know…”
I don’t believe that. I don’t believe that reading your post made me know you less.
I don’t believe I’m becoming more ignorant the longer I live. Crustier prolly, but certainly more knowledgeable, and maybe even better looking.
For example, I have gained by reading and studying all this Covid crap, antigens, ribosomes, nucleotides and many other biological terms and such.
I am still totally confused, but at least I am beginning to grasp just how complex it all is. I don’t know less now because of my reading and studying. Rather I have learned more about how much I don’t know.
The relationship between what I know and don’t know has changed but the change is only in me, not in what all there is to know. Gertrude Stein said questions are more important than answers. I got some answers from my studying but I got, and continue to get, many more – and better – questions.
“there is a theory lao tzu was actually not a person”
There has been speculation here @MoA that Scorpion is not actually a person as well. 🙂
And yeah, the reasonable amount of posting by Scorpion lately is a welcome change.
“.. i especially admire you too, fwiw..”
That’s worth much, thanks. And it’s a two way street that connects our islands.
Willie

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jan 2 2023 17:39 utc | 172

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 1 2023 16:41 utc | 4
I think ‘Mehr’ is the old Zoroastrian Sun god, whence the male name ‘Mehrdad’ (‘gift of the Sun god’).
Fun fact: The city of Yevpatoriya in Crimea is named after a Greco-Persian king Mehrdad (Mithridates Eupator).

Posted by: Browser | Jan 2 2023 18:54 utc | 173

On the UKR Jan 02
In re Eric Schlossers book Command and Control: Nuclear Weapons, the Damascus Accident, and the Illusion of Safety , pretty good. Especially the part about the Damascus Arkansas usOfa ancient liquid fueled accident waiting to happen with a H bomb. 9 megatonne, too big for anything but destroying a city in synergistic combination with mega fallout. Real crap CEP -targeting.
At a book conventionSchlosser quibbled with my friend John about John and Barb’s book with maps of every single of the 1000 Minuteman silos in “Nuclear Heartland”. Each silo was given a name. “You were giving the Soviets locations. John countered that the Soviets had satellites.
But what Nuckewatch, John, The Progressive and others keep harping about (among other nuclear issues) is the utter stupidity of usOfa land based ICBM’s. Two consecutive heads of the SNIC, an admiral and a general, both advocated the elimination of land based ICBM’s And over a decade later the Ignobel Obama signs a 1.6 Trillion usd$ modernization of all 3 of triad (land,sub, air). The”missiliers” have the highest rate of drug usage of all officers in the entire us military. The cheating scandal was huuuge. Some of the silos have non-functioning toilets, 3 days of pissing and pooping in buckets. The 1970’s PDP-8 era computers have the 8 inch (20 cm) floppy discs. The usOfa government can dissemble, but not dis-assemble.
What this exemplifies is the stuck in the mud, non-usage of accounting and efficiency analysis in the us military process.
My favourite book however to show the decades long process of lobbying and funding of worthless projects in the us is Cadillac Desert by Marc Reisner. While it focuses on dams and water usage, it is one of the best analysis of the power of lobbyists to maintain the spigots of cash that can cascade to gushers of waste that become entrenched into every senators/representatives fiefdoms.
The fall of the usOfa will be spectacular. Let us hope that my place of residence does not extinguish life on the planet.

Posted by: paxmark1 | Jan 2 2023 18:57 utc | 174

Posted by: glupi | Jan 2 2023 10:06 utc | 114
I wonder if Erdogan requested the transition to Turkiye after hearing Western broadcasters switch almost overnight to ‘keeeev’. Good trolling if so 🙂

Posted by: Browser | Jan 2 2023 19:00 utc | 175

The same would be true if you could examine our bodies that way. Although we perceive ourselves as discrete, solid, independent entities, we are not. We are fuzzy.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jan 2 2023 13:51 utc | 144

Important to note that more than 50% of the cells in your body (by count, not by mass or volume) do not contain any human DNA. The human body is a complex ecosystem of viruses and bacteria which functions very well as a whole. It should be allowed to do so, with non-food based medical intervention as the exception rather than the rule.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 2 2023 19:17 utc | 176

The WHO is wholly privately funded and owned.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Jan 2 2023 17:31 utc | 171

Not quite right:

WHO gets its funding from two main sources: Member States paying their assessed contributions (countries’ membership dues), and voluntary contributions from Member States and other partners.
Assessed contributions (AC) are a percentage of a country’s gross domestic product (the percentage is agreed by the United Nations General Assembly). Member States approve them every two years at the World Health Assembly. They cover less than 20% of the total budget.
The remainder of WHO’s financing is in the form of voluntary contributions (VC), largely from Member States as well as from other United Nations organizations, intergovernmental organizations, philanthropic foundations, the private sector, and other sources.
~ https://www.who.int/about/funding

The problem is the biggest discretionary funders for the WHO are the globalist foundations created by the Rockefellers and Bill Gates, etc.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jan 2 2023 19:43 utc | 177

Glupi 169
The Kurds are not corrupt. USUKIS is corrupt. When there is no economy, working for the colonial overlords is a way to pass the time. A bit like the Scots in 18th century India, they flourish on helping their colonial overlords sell their souls.
Communism in Kurdistan means attaching oneself to a ruling Party as a source of income. Capitalism in Kurdistan means being forcibly partnered and bled financially by the ruling Party .
The beautiful thing about Kurdish News is that it is read in a formalised Chinese style which is clearly signalled as ruling Party opinion to be completely ignored.
The ghost of Ghenghis Khan.

Posted by: Giyane | Jan 2 2023 19:44 utc | 178

@ waynorinorway | Jan 2 2023 17:39 utc | 172
that’s a nice song from willie and the harmonica solo was awesome!
its a philosophical line of thinking – further you go, the less you know.. it can’t be parsed via logic!
have you heard this norwegian lady sing? The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress
i have gained by reading thru much of the covid stuff too… i am confounded by it all and see the merits in what grieved, oldhippie and others have shared…
i think you actually understand this idea – ‘the further you go, the less you know” quite well in fact… it leads to a place of more questions with less in the way of solid sure fire answers, or positions.. we all have to find our own way in all of this too…

Posted by: james | Jan 2 2023 19:44 utc | 179

malenkov | Jan 2 2023 1:15 utc | 63
I understand the difference between vaccines and antibiotics. I guess I was putting vaccines on par with antibiotics when it comes to medical breakthroughs that save lives and prevent serious illness.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 2 2023 20:06 utc | 180

@jared | Jan 2 2023 13:44 utc | 143
Mixed feelings? Too cynical? From the Native American perspective ‘Thanksgiving’ is colonialism dancing, or more precisely feasting, on their graves and stolen land. On that day instead Native Americans have for over 50 years gathered in their own defiance and resistance; over the years I’ve attended both the Day of Mourning at Plymouth Rock and the Dawn Ceremony on Alcatraz Island in California. Indigenous peoples from Chile to Lapland, from Palestine to the Pacific Islands, send delegations and messages in solidarity for survival and sovereignty, to these gatherings.
There is zero Pagan content in it and it never had genuine mutual celebratory intent on the part of the colonizers—even you can’t avoid mention of the ensuing genocide—any more than the Minsk agreements had any genuine peacemaking intent on the part of the West. Celebrating ‘Thanksgiving’ is celebrating colonialism. If people around the world are going to give thanks for good harvests let’s celebrate on the equinox or other locally appropriate dates. Even better if connected with commemorating the resistance to occupation and empire.

Posted by: Vintage Red | Jan 2 2023 20:09 utc | 181

Worth a look.
The numbers are astounding.
https://youtu.be/Y2KWFBn5pLg

Posted by: jpc | Jan 2 2023 20:14 utc | 182

I should add the above is a breakdown of covid numbers by Ivor Cummings.

Posted by: jpc | Jan 2 2023 20:19 utc | 183

@ Sakineh Bagoom | Jan 2 2023 16:57 utc | 165
reading up on him via wikipedia, he sounds like a very knowledgeable erudite man from the 1100’s! i wonder if he knew abraham ibn ezra personally? ibn ezra was living around the same time, but in spain, although he travelled around quite a bit too.. i see ibn ezra was born when Omar Khayyam was probably around 40 years old, so i guess they didn’t cross paths..

Posted by: james | Jan 2 2023 20:35 utc | 184

Stepan Bandera – a history of this murderous little man and how his virulent anti-semitism and fanaticism is today celebrated in Canada and parts of Ukraine and elsewhere.
From Kevork Almassian at Syriana Analysis

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 2 2023 21:06 utc | 185

Would’ve thought E.U. membership has lost its gloss considering the economic blunders it has imposed on its own clients.
Yet today the British polled in favor of a re-join.
There’s an old Tennessee saying “A mouse in a trap doesn’t want cheese. It wants out.”
Guess the Brits landed themselves in a trap that only a previous trap will set them free.
Newtonian or Monty Pythonic?
Is self-colonization a third way?

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Jan 2 2023 21:17 utc | 186

Like Jimmy Dore getting breathless, my heart flutters at the mere thought of covid or any mRna vaccine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q5XI3qXptU

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 2 2023 21:45 utc | 187

On Sweden and its response to covid. A data and fact based analysis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2KWFBn5pLg

Title captures it – and Sweden closes it! 😉 Please share so that people understand how pure unscientific madness was allowed to happen!
The fact-stuffed short video can be downloaded here for you to keep and upload wherever…. https://we.tl/t-XqUKvZSxZ6

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 2 2023 22:32 utc | 188

touche jpc #182
The Sweden approach was the the subject of much ventilation here at MoA throughout 2020. It is good to have some data to consider from this point in 2023.
Perhaps the data might also translate into sane public policy for the future. We certainly need to clean out the big pharma turds lying around in the corridors of power though.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 2 2023 22:54 utc | 189

Record heat in Britain?
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/01/02/more-reasons-to-doubt-the-u-k-s-record-40c-temperature-was-attained-last-summer/
Driving hysteria with clumsy data manipulation…

All five sites are shown to be subject to heat contamination from non-climatic sources. Finding Met Offices temperature sites that are not prone to such contamination is not easy, but Cliscep did note that one exists at Harpenden where there are no human-made structures within 100 metres. While Coningsby to the north in Lincolnshire produced the claimed record high, Harpenden topped out at 37.8°C.
The WMO has five weather station classifications. Class 1 and 2 do not require any adjustment of temperature, class 3 has estimated uncertainty of 1°C, while classes 4 and 5 are 2°C and 5°C respectively.
Regular readers will recall that we have raised concerns about the RAF Coningsby record due to nearby runways and buildings, and the presence of two squadrons of Typhoon fighter jets. The record was set at 3.12pm following a sudden jump in temperature of 0.6°C in the previous two minutes. Sixty seconds later, the temperature fell to 39.7°C. The Met Office has refused to answer our questions on the matter. We have also noted the wider debate about corrupted surface measurements that are increasingly evident in global temperature datasets. And we have also questioned whether these measurements should be accepted as part of the narrative used to promote the command-and-control Net Zero project.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 2 2023 22:59 utc | 190

jpc | Jan 2 2023 20:14 utc | 182
Masking and social distancing?
Many Americans plus others appear deadset against it. We had that here in Australia. My daughter is a nurse in a Queensland hospital. Normally in winter they have a large number of flu patients. With masking and social distancing the were none. Basic scientific medicine – not political medicine nor tin foil hat medicine.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 2 2023 23:41 utc | 191

It’s a good thing Pele wasn’t Russian; the collective West would be booing and shitting on his memory.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 3 2023 0:01 utc | 192

Featherless 17:18
Regarding the catchy dry thing,
what helped me:
– lying as much as possible on my stomach, including sleeping in this position. Supposed to help the lungs etc recover from respiratory complaints in general
– massage of the internal organs through breathing.
I breathe in through my nose for a count of at least 4. Hold my breath for a count of at least 10. Exhale loudly through my mouth for a count of at least 10. Immediately after that I breathe out the rest of the air saying hoo hoo hoo hoo (pronounced as who). Until the stomach seems to completely stick to the spine.
The number (4, 10) gradually increases if one does the exercise as often as possible.
Additional benefit of this one – ‘rock-hard six-pack abdominal muscles in no time. Without any other changes in routine… 🙂
– humming / singing as often as possible (extends lung capacity)
– I was able to change my source of water to a pure local spring. Keep the water not in plastic, but in open glass, exposed to direct sunlight for at least 5 hours before drinking.
The resulting’sun water’ tastes better, even if it was tap water originally.
– eat raw food as much as possible. If sourced from local small farmers, so much the better. Avoid artificial sugar like the plague, cut down on salt, home cooking – the works.
– dry fasting (no eating and drinking for at least 12 hours a day). I find it easier than water fasting, no fainting spells etc.
The body gets a rest. A chance to concentrate entirely on self-healing, without wasting resources on digesting inputs. If a sudden sharp pain appears, it’s a sign the body is repairing this particular area.
I personally try to dry fast on certain days – Ekadashi, the moon phases (full moon etc).
It’s remarkable how moods depend on food. We really are gut biomes.. :). There is more and more official research in gut bacteria transplants by the way.
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Just try and see if / what of the above improves your quality of life

Posted by: glupi | Jan 3 2023 0:04 utc | 193

Ghenghis Khan, son of the wolf and the deer doe
Was it in his reign that a beautiful virgin, adorned in costly jewels and gold, crisscrossed the country alone. And was untouched.
What modern state can boast such an achievement? (The lawlessness works. Here I am, yearning for law and order, eager to exchange my freedoms of protest etc for security)

Posted by: glupi | Jan 3 2023 0:18 utc | 194

@ oldhippie | Jan 2 2023 16:46 utc | 163
Old Hippie, I looked at what I wrote @ 63:
“That the mass mRNA vaxx pharma intervention does not stop transmission is the a major problem (and crime) because repeat infections due to viral escape evolution (forced by vaxx configurations) and immunity imprinting (where one’s vax-trained immune system is responding with outdated responses to viral epitopes) results in a dysregulated immune system where people have less capacity to fight off disease for up to 1 year or more after repeat infection. This holds for fighting off invaders like bacteria, viruses, fungi and more, not just SC2.”
Perhaps my strike edit helps clarify my thinking more for you?
I am not denying that the EUA big pharma intervention is very problematic and has caused grievous harm for which there has been no accountability or remediation. Understatement.
What I do not understand is why people deny evidence showing that SC2 infections, and especially repeat infections, also causes harm.
This is not a “this and not that” reality imo. This is a “they fucked up, fucked up again, and then doubled-down fucked up” reality imo from the POV of the public.
You wrote,
“Respiratory viruses will not do any of that unless viremia has occurred. That means virus in bloodstream. Any who have had covid with viremia were very very ill. Nearly all who contracted covid before the vax arrived and very close to 100% of anyone young cleared the virus fairly easily. Any who had viremia were very very ill and they would know they had been very very ill.”
I have read papers describing SC2 entry into the bloodstream from the gut system. Once SC2 or the encapsulated spike-codon packet enters the blood system, “complications” abound. We agree here but I widen the lens.
“Clearing the virus” is something we don’t yet fully understand. It seems there is a spectrum of clearance. For example, surgeons are finding the tonsils and adenoids of children with no apparent infection often harbor intact virus. Similarly, bariatric surgeons are finding intact virus in their surgical patients’ removed organs. And so on. We do not know if these are ‘sleepers’ that will awaken under whatever conditions or die off.
My point about immune system dysfunction remains. Please refute. Here is a recap:

But what if COVID wears down T cells in people who get it, and does so increasingly with each reinfection?
That concern lies at the heart of a rolling, rancorous scientific debate, a lot of it conducted on Twitter. A person at the centre of the storm, sounding alarms about T cell “dysregulation” since the early days of the pandemic, has been a U.S. immunologist named Anthony Leonardi.
By dysregulation Leonardi means three effects of COVID:
* The hyperactivation of many T cells, which can prematurely age them
* The exuberant function of those hyperactivated T cells, which can then cause organ damage
* The exhaustion of those hyperactivated T cells, which implies they aren’t winning the battle against viral proteins they are supposed to defeat.
In other words, argues Leonardi, T cells are becoming hyperactivated by SARS-CoV-2 and are prematurely aging, harming organs, and becoming exhausted trying to rid the body of an immune-evasive virus.

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2022/11/07/COVID-Reinfections-And-Immunity/
Also, this concerning SC2 causing multiple problems:
Published: 26 December 2022

Transcriptional reprogramming from innate immune functions to a pro-thrombotic signature by monocytes in COVID-19
Transcriptionally, COVID-19 monocytes are characterized by enrichment of pathways involved in hemostasis, immunothrombosis, platelet aggregation and other accessory pathways to platelet activation and clot formation.
“>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-35638-y

I posted these links earlier.
I understand the extreme skepticism and lack of trust of the organizations, journals and many researchers of the captured world.
We know evidence that should have been collected was not systematically collected (vax vs non vax; natural immunity vs primed immunity, etc). And that records are being “simplified” and “consolidated” which results in the removal of essential data. The 1st lesson I was taught as a science student (chemistry and biology) was never erase or remove any data. Cross out the info in a way in which you can still read it in the future as it could be essential data, you just don’t know it yet. In fact I learned this as a youngster from my scientist (biogeochemist) dad.
That sensibility is now mostly gone from the culture but not everywhere. And it must be resurrected in a just world.
There is enough evidence out there to know what went down.
Persevere.

Posted by: suzan | Jan 3 2023 0:51 utc | 195

Sixty seven minute film well worth the time of anyone interested with what’s killing the vaccinated as seen from embalmers and funeral directors alike.
Sudden Death The Movie
Lots of lengthy (and fuzzy) blood clots, which makes it painfully obvious what’s causing these sudden deaths.

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jan 3 2023 1:04 utc | 196

@aye, myself & me | Jan 3 2023 1:04 utc | 196
I read that the opening scenes in that film are of people fainting, not dying. The scenes are lifted straight off the innertubes.
An interview with a coroner about the film is revealing. Look up link. He claims that these huge clots are common. The longer a body sits after death, the more those things develop and grow. When bodies can’t be handled right away it is really grotesque.

Posted by: suzan | Jan 3 2023 1:22 utc | 197

@glupi 193
Thank you. I’m taking note of your suggestions. One thing that helped a lot was unpasteurized honey, which I presume is packed with bee antibodies. I took a spoonful a few times, and the catchy throat was reduced by 2/3.

Posted by: Featherless | Jan 3 2023 1:24 utc | 198

I have just been flicking through a few of Campbell’s recent videos. His China stuff is unwatchable as his only knowledge of China is what he sees in western media and often he simply repeats anti China propaganda.
What is interesting though is Moderna. A startup company involved in US bio weapons research in the pentagon labs, the mRNA vaccine was pretty much its first product. Moderna is building vax production facilities in UK, Canada and Australia. The deals with those Governments are all secret.
British PM Sunak was a founding partner in a company that has invested heavily in Moderna. They intend to produce flu and other vaccines using the mRNA technology…
It seems anglo governments are doing away with traditional vaccines in favour of US big pharma. Plenty of money to be made I guess in what looks to be the coming era of US bio warfare.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 3 2023 1:31 utc | 199

The relevant link for my 199.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYiwms-Yp5s

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 3 2023 1:34 utc | 200