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December 14, 2022
U.S. To Send More Wunderwaffen To Ukraine

A new round of Wunderwaffen deliveries to Ukraine is taking place. It is unlikely to change the strategic or even operational picture of the war.

The U.S. and its 'allies' are engaged in a boil-the-frog operation in which they steadily increase the lethality and complexity of arms and other support they deliver to Ukraine. At some point in time this process will cross Russian red lines. That's when it will become really interesting

The newest gimmick to be deployed is the Patriot air defense system likely soon to be followed by main battle tanks:

The U.S. is poised to approve sending a Patriot missile battery to Ukraine, finally agreeing to an urgent request from Ukrainian leaders desperate for more robust weapons to shoot down incoming Russian missiles, U.S. officials said Tuesday.

The approval is likely to come later this week and could be announced as early as Thursday, said three officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the decision is not final and has not been made public. Two of the officials said the Patriot will come from Pentagon stocks and be moved from another country overseas.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy pressed Western leaders as recently as Monday to provide more advanced weapons to help his country in its war with Russia. The Patriot would be the most advanced surface-to-air missile system the West has provided to Ukraine to help repel Russian aerial attacks.

During a video conference on Monday, Zelenskyy told host Germany and other leaders of the Group of Seven industrial powers that his country needed long-range missiles, modern tanks, artillery, missile batteries and other high-tech air defense systems to counter Russian attacks that have knocked out electricity and water supplies for millions of Ukrainians.

He acknowledged that, “Unfortunately, Russia still has an advantage in artillery and missiles.”

Well, yes, the artillery advantage the Russian army has in the current battle for Bakhmut is nine to one or even higher:

“For every artillery piece we have, they have nine,” said one soldier.

NATO no longer has the equipment and ammunition reserves to change that.

As for the Patriot, the "Phased Array Tracking Radar to Intercept on Target": Training for them takes quite some time and unless Ukrainians have already been secretly trained on them for several months they will have to be deployed with NATO soldiers or 'former' soldiers to have any effect:

Asked about training, Brig. Gen. Patrick Ryder, the Pentagon press secretary, said that in general the U.S. takes those needs into consideration when providing complicated weapons systems to Ukraine, such as the High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems, known as HIMARS. Currently U.S. forces are training Ukrainian troops on a number of systems, including the HIMARS, in other European countries, such as Germany.

The entire system, which includes a phased array radar, a control station, computers and generators, typically requires about 90 soldiers to operate and maintain, however only three soldiers are needed to actually fire it, according to the Army.

The HIMARS missiles, the previous Wunderwaffen, are now routinely shot down by Russian missile and air defense systems:

The anti-aircraft defence forces shot down two drones in the areas of Zhytlovka and Kremennaya (Lugansk People's Republic).

In addition, two HIMARS MLRS rounds were intercepted near Perovomaysk (Lugansk People's Republic) and a HARM rocket near Makarovka (Kherson region).

The Patriot battery to be deployed to Ukraine is likely one of those that the U.S. currently has in Poland. A German Patriot unit will be deployed to replace it.

The phased array radar that Patriot systems use are good but they are also a weakness. They are visible from satellites with Synthetic Aperture Radar. As researchers have found some years ago:

Amid a busy few weeks of nuclear-related news, an Israeli researcher made a very surprising OSINT discovery that flew somewhat under the radar. As explained in a Medium article, Israeli GIS analyst Harel Dan noticed that when he accidentally adjusted the noise levels of the imagery produced from the SENTINEL-1 satellite constellation, a bunch of colored Xs suddenly appeared all over the globe.

SENTINEL-1’s C-band Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) operates at a centre frequency of 5.405 GHz, which conveniently sits within the range of the military frequency used for land, airborne, and naval radar systems (5.250-5.850 GHz)—including the AN/MPQ-53/65 phased array radars that form the backbone of a Patriot battery’s command and control system. Therefore, Harel correctly hypothesized that some of the Xs that appeared in the SENTINEL-1 images could be triggered by interference from Patriot radar systems.

Using this logic, he was able to use the Xs to pinpoint the locations of Patriot batteries in several Middle Eastern countries, including Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia.


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While SENTINEL-1 images of Ukraine will now likely be censored there is no need for Russia to use those. It has its own SAR systems:

Kondor, GRAU index 14F133, is a series of Earth imaging or military reconnaissance satellites developed by NPO Mashinostroyeniya for the Russian Aerospace Defence Forces which in 2015 became the Russian Space Forces and export customers.

Kondor satellites are equipped to carry either synthetic aperture radar or electro-optical imaging payloads, with the first satellite, and are launched using the Strela carrier rocket, developed by NPO Mashinostroyeniya from retired UR-100 NUTTKh missiles.

Process the SAR data, look for 'noise' crosses, program the coordinates into a number of suicide drones of Iranian design and send them off. This should take no more than an hour. The Russian Reconnaissance Strike Complex is designed to do that:

The Reconnaissance Strike Complex (разведивательно-ударный комплех-RYK) was designed for the coordinated employment of high-precision, long- range weapons linked to real-time intelligence data and precise targeting provided to a fused intelligence and fire-direction center. The RYK functioned at operational depths using surface-to-surface missile systems and aircraft-delivered “smart” munitions. The Reconnaissance Fire Complex (разведивательно-огновой комплех ROK) was the tactical equivalent.

The Reconnaissance Fire System (ROS) is designed to detect, engage and destroy enemy targets in near-real time within the range of tactical units (maneuver battalion and brigade with supporting artillery). On occasion, an artillery brigade or helicopter gunship brigade (a tactical/operational formation) could conduct ROS missions. However, Army Corps and Army Group units normally conduct RYS missions-engaging, detecting and destroying operational targets in near-real time using longer-range reconnaissance and strike systems (especially SSM and aviation systems).

Will the Patriot radar move during the Russian reaction time interval between reconnaissance and strike? I have my doubts.

Wikipedia says that a Patriot battery costs about $1 billion. The radar is the thing that makes these so expensive. Each of its missile costs about $3 million. The suicide drones are maybe $10,000 each. Now do the math …

The most modern missiles Patriot system use have a maximum reach of some 60 kilometer (37 miles). One battery can thus cover a bubble with a 120 kilometer diameter. It may be good for Kiev or Odessa but is nothing that will solve the general military problem Ukraine has.

The Russian forces are superior in technology, personnel and fire power. There is no chance, and never has been, for Ukraine to win that match. No Wunderwaffen, British marines with sea drones or U.S. Patriot systems, will change those basic facts.

Comments

Posted by: experienced | Dec 15 2022 9:15 utc | 287
U ve nailed it!
Very accurate comment.
Btw nobody in Germany is freezing….
another 5d chess failure

Posted by: Ćevapčići | Dec 15 2022 11:20 utc | 301

Another Bahkmut map:
https://twitter.com/Trollstoy88/status/1603021769253818368
Vid of Russian advances and retreats: https://twitter.com/peterniers544/status/1603023666459152385
https://twitter.com/peterniers544/status/1602442937073340417
AFU lost the supply line to #Marinka: what does it mean?
The 79th Airborne Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of #Ukraine, stationed in Marinka, lost the possibility of being supplied.
On December 8, the leadership of the brigade reported to the headquarters of the Vostok command that the RF Armed Forces had taken Geological Street, the road from the city that leads to neighboring Krasnogorovka, under fire control.
The road is under fire from Russian long-range artillery – self-propelled guns “Msta-S” and Giatsint-S” caliber 152 mm.
In addition, it is controlled by drones and helicopters of the army aviation of the RF Armed Forces.
It was from the neighboring Krasnogorovka that the brigade received ammunition, as well as reinforcements in manpower.
Without this, it risks being surrounded and completely destroyed.
Any attempts by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to transfer reinforcements to Marinka will now involve with the risk of casualties.
At the end of November, units of the 79th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were pushed back to the area of gas facilities of Marinka.
Then they lost control of their positions in the area of the tire repair plant and the Nikolsky elevator in the southwestern part of the city.
A twitter with information…..
https://twitter.com/peterniers544
Another twitter with reports
https://twitter.com/azgeopolitics
Same, (some variations) on telegram: https://t.me/s/azmilitary11

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 15 2022 11:22 utc | 302

Electricity seems missing ==> https://t.me/azmilitary11/30925

Posted by: too scents | Dec 15 2022 11:38 utc | 303

I wonder what the next goal post cope will be, as the Kremlin circlejerk cries “trolls” and makes more shit up …

Posted by: experienced | Dec 15 2022 9:15 utc | 287
Name one Kremlin official making any such claim. If you can’t then you’re the who’s full of shit.

Posted by: krypton | Dec 15 2022 12:14 utc | 304

Ukraine’s electric grid is being destroyed on a daily basis, along with its key infrastructure. No heating, no water, no cell phones. It is slowly becoming depopulated and economically degraded.
In addition to this, Ukraine has lost 100,000 soldiers so far, according to Ursula von Leyen. This would mean that another 300,000-400,000 are wounded. This is in sync with the 300,000 Ukrainian mothers who have not heard from their sons. After 2-3 years, Ukraine’s population will be half, or a third of what it is now.
Moreover, by fighting in the Donbass, Russia is fighting in its backyard, close to its supply lines, where they have an advantage in artillery of 3 to t. Meanwhile, Ukraine needs to funnel supplies and new soldiers from Western Ukraine over to the front, where they get destroyed by superior Russian artillery.
Russia does not need to occupy all of Ukraine: it will probably also take Odessa to get the Black Sea coast,and make Ukraine into a landlocked country. And maybe they will also take Kharkiv. However, Russian speakers will finally move to the Russian areas, and the rest of Ukraine can just be regularly bombed and destroyed, indefinitely.

Posted by: Augustus Caesar | Dec 15 2022 12:21 utc | 305

Now, where is this russian winter offensive that will sweep the already exterminated ukrainian forces away, please tell? And how is the russian logistics these days?”
Posted by: Fnord73 | Dec 15 2022 6:54 utc | 259

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The build-up for a Russian winter offensive may well prove to be a feint. Again, I’m not privy to the mythical master plan. Who but Sorovikin really knows? But were I invited to play chess or poker with Putin, I would graciously decline and offer you my seat instead.
Could also be that General Winter has been gentle and kind, so far, with EUNATO. But do keep an ear open for those sleigh bells; Saint Nicholas may yet arrive on a polar vortex, bringing lumps of coal for the Ukronazis.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Dec 15 2022 12:27 utc | 306

Posted by: Skiffer | Dec 15 2022 11:10 utc | 299
I was wondering if Putin’s recent mention of Odessa would spook the horses. This might be it.

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 15 2022 12:31 utc | 307

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 15 2022 10:05 utc | 295
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 15 2022 10:00 utc | 294
Thank you Melaleuca and R.S Hack!
1. Been noodling around your substack, RSH — quite interesting. Will be back.
2. Melaleuca:
a. Big Serge’s map is very clear. I can see five roads exiting Bakhmut. Reuters says that Donetsk is being shelled. Perhaps these are coming from the Bakhmut area?
b. The daily summary will be checked daily! At 4.24 begins the discussion of Bakhrut.
c. New Atlas’ discussion on Patriots was understandable, even for a newbie like me.

Posted by: KR | Dec 15 2022 12:35 utc | 308

Sorry about the bold — I have no idea why this happened.

Posted by: KR | Dec 15 2022 12:36 utc | 309

The build-up for a Russian winter offensive may well prove to be a feint. Again, I’m not privy to the mythical master plan. Who but Sorovikin really knows? But were I invited to play chess or poker with Putin, I would graciously decline and offer you my seat instead.
Could also be that General Winter has been gentle and kind, so far, with EUNATO. But do keep an ear open for those sleigh bells; Saint Nicholas may yet arrive on a polar vortex, bringing lumps of coal for the Ukronazis.

Recent photos of conditions in the field show viscous mud a meter deep everywhere….
It is most likely that the ground will not be sufficiently frozen for maneuver until mid to late January.
Meanwhile, the Russians continue their inexorable grind through Ukie manpower, taking out of action ~ 1,000 per day.
Already, they chewed through the assault force assembled for the Zaporizhe to Mariupol offensive, and the force assembled for the Kharkhov offensive.
In 4 more weeks they can eliminate ~ 30,000 effectives in addition to the nearly half million KIA/MIA/WIA
Apparently, they don’t see the need to accelerate.
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Dec 15 2022 12:51 utc | 310

I was wondering if Putin’s recent mention of Odessa would spook the horses. This might be it.
Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 15 2022 12:31 utc | 306
Bingo.
And Bojo really wants Odessa. UK announced today they might send long range cruise missiles. They probably already are there but there are no planes left to launch them. For the moment.
No response to the largest attack yet in Donetsk. It’s ok, tomorrow they’ll do it again anyway.

Posted by: rk | Dec 15 2022 12:52 utc | 311

The Russians make great microphones that they sell internationally. I have two of them. Sting has always used a Russian mic for his recordings.

Posted by: Kurt | Dec 15 2022 12:53 utc | 312

As I said, the more weak Russia [appears to be], the more embolden[ed] EU/Nato will become…now, it is too late.”
Posted by: Zanon | Dec 15 2022 10:50 utc | 298

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Thus spake another ☆☆☆☆☆-armchair general, pontificating from his single-eyeball view through a knothole in the fence of the skirmish on a limited battlespace. Maybe it’s time for a refresher course in Sun Tzu’s Art of War?
No doubt the forthcoming EU/NATO declaration will be a devastating narrative.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Dec 15 2022 12:55 utc | 313

Good overview of “optimistic” and “pessimistic” Russian analytical opinions on what the Patriots could accomplish.
https://awfulavalanche.wordpress.com/2022/12/15/ukraine-war-day-295-can-american-patriots-cover-ukrainian-sky/

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Dec 15 2022 13:13 utc | 314

Until very recently the all-ethnicity supermarkets around here had lots of Russian and Ukrainian origin food. We liked the pastries and chocolates. Lots of other food for immigrants who know which is which. As Kurt @ 311 says their microphones are wonderful and I see/hear them in performance, the singers and horn players bring them to the show instead of using house systems.

Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 15 2022 13:29 utc | 315

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 15 2022 7:00 utc | 262
Why they have not attempted to do it with railroads is puzzling. It is still hard given the experience with the bridge in Zatoka.
https://odessa-journal.com/russian-federation-launched-a-rocket-on-the-bridge-in-zatoka-for-the-fourth-time/

Posted by: Bill Smith | Dec 15 2022 13:30 utc | 316

WARSAW, Poland — In a potentially major reinforcement of Ukraine’s air combat capability, Slovakia’s Foreign and European Affairs Minister Ratislav Káčer has announced his country is preparing to transfer Soviet-made Mikoyan MiG-29 fighter jets to the Ukrainian Air Force in coordination with the United States.

Posted by: Kerensky | Dec 15 2022 13:31 utc | 317

and the rest of Ukraine can just be regularly bombed and destroyed, indefinitely.
Posted by: Augustus Caesar | Dec 15 2022 12:21 utc | 304
That is exactly what they’re doing now and it isn’t working. First they have to use a much larger army than the 5 soldiers they sent to Ukr just to control the daily attacks on civilians. And a larger one in the future because the “rest of Ukraine” will always be filled with all nato weapons and terrorists nato can find on the planet, diffusing into Russia and Belarus over 10-20 years. Ukr does not exist anymore, it’s a nato zombie at their borders, like Poland, Baltics or Finalnd.

Posted by: rk | Dec 15 2022 13:40 utc | 318

That’s the thing about US deficit spending, it’s extortion (of treasury buyers / holders) not actual debt, the nominal outstanding amount is too great to ever be repaid.”
anon2020 | Dec 15 2022 8:00 utc | 276

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Very insightful comment. Financialization has been at the core of all wars. Unpayable debt, including incalculable derivative debt, is the sword of Dacontrary. dangling point-down above the imperial house-of-fiat. This is undoubtedly driving the extreme existential desperation of our depraved imperial lords. Panicked rulers make stupid unconscionable decisions, including he Samson Option (suicidal global thermo-nuclear war).
IMO, this is what Russia and China are trying very carefully and slowly, trying to avert. I suspect this is why Russia repeatedly declines to take the bait NATO continually presents it — multiple videos of unspeakable atrocities by Nazis against Russian POWs (documenting these crimes publicly serves a purpose), attacks on Zaporozhye NPP, multiple attacks within Russian territory including the bridge and base in Crimea, and Engels AFB. Trolls, fools, here (SeanAU, Zanon, neofuedal, etc.) declare this incredible restraint to be proof of weakness. ¡Al contrario!

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Dec 15 2022 13:46 utc | 319

[Auto-correct correction]
Unpayable debt, including incalculable derivative debt, is the sword of [Damocles]. dangling point-down above the imperial house-of-fiat.
PS, Kleptocurrency can’t save the US Empire.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Dec 15 2022 13:51 utc | 320

Is the post @ 314 from the regular barfly using that moniker or is it an impostor?

Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 15 2022 14:14 utc | 321

@ oldhippie | Dec 15 2022 14:14 utc | 321
Impostor. Absolutely no doubt here.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 15 2022 14:16 utc | 322

@oldhippie – I read more than I write at MoA but that looks like an imposter. Way out of character imo.

Posted by: chunga | Dec 15 2022 14:16 utc | 323

Why they have not attempted to do it with railroads is puzzling.
Posted by: Bill Smith | Dec 15 2022 13:30 utc | 316
If you hit railroads you have to use the opportunity quickly, they can be fixed. Very rarely they hit train stations but they also retreated from those ares so it probably wasn’t helpful. Now they occasionally and timidly hit the power grid and that disables electric trains too with a single hit. Maybe they have other interests to keep trains working, oligarchs everywhere, no one knows. They could hit the road connections for nato supplies, force them to drive thru mud in and out of Ukr. Looking at photos on social media in Eastern Europe natoland, there is a permanent flow of large military convoys with weapons on highways entering Ukr 24/7

Posted by: rk | Dec 15 2022 14:18 utc | 324

Posted by: Mexicana | Dec 14 2022 17:08 utc | 111
All praise goes to Jello Biafra – he has been at it since 1991.

Posted by: Anne B | Dec 15 2022 14:28 utc | 325

@ chunga | Dec 15 2022 14:16 utc | 323
Time stamps ? Lol. Synchronicity. My shout, what’s yer poison chunga ? Prost! 🙂
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Translated from Russian FYI: ПЕРЕХВАТ (Z) (Transformation (Z) TG)(Also Russian language Clip)

The Germans have started to come to Kaliningrad for wintering
Residents of Germany began to move to the Kaliningrad region for the winter to avoid paying high utility bills, said the head of the region Anton Alikhanov.
Neighbors, by the way, an amazing thing, come. There are some Germans who come here for winter time“, – he told RIA Novosti.
According to the governor, the cost of living in Kaliningrad is four times lower than in German cities. At the same time, the new trend among German citizens gives additional income to Russians, who are engaged in renting apartments, he noted.
In the Kaliningrad region itself, there are no problems with energy supply, Alikhanov stressed. “No, we have no worries at all, we are warm and bright,” he said.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 15 2022 14:35 utc | 326

Posted by: Likklemore | Dec 14 2022 20:16 utc | 148
Do you have a Bug-out?

They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!

Revaltion 6:16
I’ll stay on my hill-top.

Posted by: Anne B | Dec 15 2022 14:45 utc | 327

Posted by: Kerensky | Dec 15 2022 13:31 utc | 317
https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2022/12/13/slovakia-readies-transfer-of-upgraded-mig-29-warplanes-to-ukraine/
“Slovakia’s 11 remaining MiG-29s ….”

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 15 2022 14:51 utc | 328

I like both kinds of beer. Bottles and cans..and an occasional drop of Tennessee whiskey. 😉
Talking it over with Lovey last night, the impression I’m getting concerning the situation in the former state of Ukraine. US backed Ukrainian forces are treading, barely afloat, in shark infested waters and we’re getting close to a “now you see it, now you don’t moment”.
IMO..there is a lot more to Merkel’s statements than meets the eye.

Posted by: chunga | Dec 15 2022 14:51 utc | 329

@ Fnord73 | Dec 15 2022 6:47 utc | 258
“Let’s drop conspiracy theory and stick to the facts. Will Wunderwaffen halt the UAF’s retreat at Bakhmut?”
‘Nah, Bakhmut may fall in the end. How many russian storminfantry it costs is the question. Y’ all talk about Russia seting up meatgrinders but fail to see the one they are in.’
OK, you earn some points for honesty. There’s a fly in the ointment though. You say “Bakhmut may fall,” but I say “Bakhmut will be liberated.”
Prigozhin reminds me of silver and coal magnate Nelson Hunt. Nelson periodically dropped by Arch Mineral’s Illinois coal mines incognito to see what the heck was really going on. Prigozhin does likewise with PMC Wagner at Bakhmut. You would too if a significant portion of your wealth was tied up with the welfare of PMC Wagner.
Does anyone in Kyiv give a tinker’s dam about the plight of UAF soldiers at Bakhmut? There’s photos of UAF soldiers covered in mud as they stand knee deep in sewage water in a filthy ditch. Does Ukraine’s rock star general, you know – the one with gorgeous model girlfriends in crisp new uniforms who drive brand new vehicles – ever stop by Bakhmut to see what’s going on? UAF leaves me with impression they treat conscripts as little more than a herd of cattle, to be driven into battle by hard core Nazis. Is my impression wrong?

Posted by: ? | Dec 15 2022 14:59 utc | 330

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Dec 15 2022 13:51 utc | 320
Agreed, thank you. A very complex conflict, too easy to focus on pieces, miss the economic context.
Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 15 2022 14:14 utc | 321
Can’t be the real Norwegian!

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 15 2022 15:09 utc | 331

Posted by: Phariah | Dec 14 2022 12:48 utc | 45
All the “good parts” i.e. resource reserves are east of the Dnieper, and on the Black Sea coast and seaboard. Only little in Lvov/Ivano Frankivsk AFAIK.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 15 2022 15:12 utc | 332

The Patriot Missile System’s performance during the Gulf Ward according to Baudrillard (Simulation & Simulacra)
Rick Roderick on Baudrillard
– Despite endless replays of Patriots shooting down Scuds over israel there were only one or two confirmed hits
– But CNN played and replayed these over and over again to create the Hypereality of super-efficient Patriot defense systems
– More Patriot missile shrapnel fell on israel than actual Scud missiles …
– “Patriot missiles” vs. “Soviet Scuds” … “Bad” vs. “Good” … Reinforcement of the “Hypereality” (a reality “realer than real”) created by CNN.
Additional interesting tidbits:
– The Gulf War was not against the Iraqi enemy or any enemy in particular, it was against Reality and in order to destroy reality it was required to create a Hyper-reality.
– A perfect way to destroy “Vietnam Syndrome”

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 15 2022 15:16 utc | 333

Posted by: rk | Dec 15 2022 12:52 utc | 310
Agreed that they’ve probably already transferred long range missiles or already retrofit more older systems for long range strikes, Slovakia’s sending 11 mig 29s. Increased attacks on Donetsk might also be a nervous response to Putin’s remarks on Odessa.

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 15 2022 15:19 utc | 334

@ chunga | Dec 15 2022 14:51 utc | 329
Tail end o’ the thread, 4th page of comments …
Yeah … Merkel is facilitating ‘payback’ to Empire, politically & personally, on-the-record, as a matter of historical record, her eventual legacy, & to prove the true insidious nature of ‘Empire’/EU/NATO & hence confirm the legal validity of RFs conduct under International Law & UN Charter … am guessing.
AFU has lost it’s entire national Army (600,000), arms materiel, ammunition, stores, infrastructure … since Feb2422 … in addition to the majority scrap ‘Lend-Leased’ by Empire … concurrent training programs provide inconsequential ‘Human-Sandbags’ at a fraction of the rate of continual losses … post 6 forced conscriptions …
AFU is sucking fumes, gasping, struggling to tread water. Empire is voluntarily de-militarizing itself, as its credibility, legitimacy, soft & hard power, financial stability & coercive means evaporates, along with it’s illusory ‘SuperPower’ status … Paper Tiger.
Slow & steady … Total Strategic & Operational Dominance & Initiative in Theater by RF … whilst late stage Empire collapses before our very eyes … what’s not to like ?
(Whilst necessarily being deliberately detached from the scale of the human horror of it all …)

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 15 2022 15:21 utc | 335

Posted by: james | Dec 15 2022 2:22 utc | 225
I guess it all evens out for everyone here somehow. I skip your posts whether you’ve been drinking or not.

Posted by: Herr Ringbone | Dec 15 2022 15:21 utc | 336

@ outraged – this is pure conjecture on my part. The next question Merkel will be asked, by people capable of demanding an answer is “why did you participate in deceiving Russia?” and the answer will be…”Germany was blackmailed by the Americans”.

Posted by: chunga | Dec 15 2022 15:27 utc | 337

@ Arch Bungle | Dec 15 2022 15:16 utc | 333
Zero successful interceptions. 0. Only successful intercepts were a few discarded tumbling booster bodies after warhead had already detached. At the time had direct SCI cell access re the Flash priority 24hr all asset Scud Hunt throughout Theater … IRAQ/Kuwait/KSA/Israel. YMMV.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 15 2022 15:31 utc | 338

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 15 2022 15:31 utc | 338
Zero successful interceptions. 0.
I’m not surprised. Throw in “one or two” for the benefit of the doubt – and because I had no such access 😉 I was just a tiny tot glued to to the screen back then.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 15 2022 15:36 utc | 339

Nine months after the horses have bolted, the US belatedly pretends to close the stable doors — a rather transparent excuse to put more boots on the ground; happens in every imperial war. From ZH:

US Mulls More Troops Inside Ukraine To Track Arms As Leaked Cable Admits “Impossible” Task
The Biden administration is mulling stepping up the US troop presence inside Ukraine as part of a program to attempt to track the billions of dollars in weaponry being handed out to its forces. However, some critics are already pointing out the obvious: “This is classic mission creep,” a former US official has warned, following the examples of endless ‘war on terror’ conflicts-turned-quagmires such as Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria.

“The Pentagon has a [‘]couple of dozen U.S. troops in Ukraine[‘], including a [‘]very small[‘] number already assigned to making sure weapons reach their intended recipients,” NBCreported

The Pentagram said it, so it must be true. And from Politico in the same article:

“The Biden administration also plans to tap a still-unnamed U.S. firm by February to implement a special three-year initiative to help the oversight effort, according to the “sensitive but unclassified” document.”

Any guesses on that “still-unnamed U.S. firm” to help “the oversight effort”? Blackwater? Academi?

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Dec 15 2022 15:50 utc | 340

@ chunga | Dec 15 2022 15:27 utc | 337
Precisely. Who do Germanys Intelligence services actually report to since inception post ’45 ? Not Germany. Merkel & countless other vassal leaders (& others at all levels globally) have secretly surveilled/bugged for years, decades. Still are. It is why 5(+3)-Eyes/9-Eyes & 14-Eyes exist at inconceivable exorbitant expense & resources globally. Suborned.
Who was responsible for her electronic/device/communications security & personal physical protection ? Same as above. Merkel Shivers
The primary purpose of Empires collective Intel services collection effort is Economic & Political control & coercion globally re sustainment/perpetuation/expansion of dominance. Primarily economic/political exploitation. Mafiosi. Actual Intelligence collection tasking for all other purposes/requirements is likely 10-15% or less.
Hence, Empires dread awakening horror at the unraveling of SWIFT & all its long suborned International Institutions. YMMV.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 15 2022 15:50 utc | 341

No ‘western’ weapons will help overcome Russia’s superiority in leadership, strategy, insight, enlightenment, clarity of purpose, and reason.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Dec 15 2022 15:55 utc | 342

Any guesses on that “still-unnamed U.S. firm”
Posted by: Doug Hillman | Dec 15 2022 15:50 utc | 340

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_Edison

Posted by: too scents | Dec 15 2022 15:58 utc | 343

Guardian writes about Crimea, hinting at possible trade off in hypothetical talks with Russia.
“Why Crimea is Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s greatest bargaining chip” by Patrick Wintour. Are we witnessing another veiled attempt by the West to initiate some kind of peace talks? Is this contrary to what British politicians are saying, or is it perhaps secretly synchronised?

Posted by: Milos | Dec 15 2022 16:03 utc | 344

Either Ukrainian administration is still infiltrated by pro-Russian people and they never managed to get all of them (not unlikely), or they really hate all their neighbours (just as likely), including those who help them, and are pretty stupid. Copied from Guardian:
“Poland’s police chief, Jaroslaw Szymczyk, has been taken to hospital with minor injuries after a gift he received from a senior Ukrainian official exploded, the interior ministry said on Thursday. Szymczyk had met the heads of Ukraine’s police and state emergency services during the visit and the present was a gift from one of the heads of Ukraine’s services, the ministry said. It described his injuries as minor and said he remained in hospital under observation. “The Polish side has asked the Ukrainian side to provide an explanation,” the ministry said.”

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Dec 15 2022 16:06 utc | 345

Posted by: chunga | Dec 15 2022 15:27 utc | 337
It’s hard to even imagine a way out for Europe as a whole that doesn’t involve getting out from under the 5+ Eyes surveillance dominance over much of the EU and national decision making classes. Everything else is palliative, at best.

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 15 2022 16:07 utc | 346

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 15 2022 15:50 utc | 341
Apologies for duplication, well said.

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 15 2022 16:18 utc | 347

One final thought.
Everybody knows who blew up those pipelines and eventually everybody is going to start saying it out loud.

Posted by: chunga | Dec 15 2022 16:21 utc | 348

“Why Crimea is Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s greatest bargaining chip” by Patrick Wintour. Are we witnessing another veiled attempt by the West to initiate some kind of peace talks? Is this contrary to what British politicians are saying, or is it perhaps secretly synchronised?
Posted by: Milos | Dec 15 2022 16:03 utc | 344

No, you are witnessing an attempt to appease the peaceniks on the west side of the Atlantic… “See we tried, Putin is unreasonable.” LOL
After supposedly losing the first Crimean War, Russia was allowed to keep it. Which baffled me for a while, but concluded that the Allies then must have recognized that they would have to permanently defend it as an outpost.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 15 2022 16:21 utc | 349

Any word if America is also sending these US soldiers to Ukraine along with their vaunted Patriotard missile defense systems?
US Army officers probed over BDSM gear photos – media
https://www.rt.com/news/568295-us-army-bdsm-investigation/
Pretty sure those Azov Nazis would appreciate some leather and whips….

Posted by: ak74 | Dec 15 2022 16:27 utc | 350

@ Hermit | Dec 15 2022 7:42 utc | 271
oh, but i think the usa did win a lot from ww2…. the whole financial edifice in action today – imf, world bank, bis and etc etc were all set up to favour the usa.. we are still seeing this play out today..
@ oldhippie | Dec 15 2022 14:14 utc | 321
that is an imposter / name hijack..
@ Herr Ringbone | Dec 15 2022 15:21 utc | 336
yes indeed, lol… we’re even!

Posted by: james | Dec 15 2022 16:30 utc | 351

Hence, Empires dread awakening horror at the unraveling of SWIFT & all its long suborned International Institutions.”
Posted by: Outraged | Dec 15 2022 15:50 utc | 341

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Indeed, I think that’s the crux of it — unbridled pleonexia- and supremacism-induced self-destruction

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Dec 15 2022 16:38 utc | 352

Posted by: Kerensky | Dec 15 2022 13:31 utc | 317
RE: Slovakia emptying out its hangars for the nasty coked-out punk Zelensky!
The SMO is going even better than expected! The demilitarisation of Ukraine has extended to all of Eastern Europe.

Posted by: Chris | Dec 15 2022 16:50 utc | 353

Today is the annual end of year meeting of the Council for Strategic Development and National Projects; and by Putin’s account and that of Russia’s Ministers, Russia is in very good shape considering the economic broadside it was hit with essentially at the beginning of March. Currently, the English transcript ends with Putin asking the following:
“So what has Europe achieved by imposing these restrictions? First, this is what economists call an unprecedented, forced leap of inflation in its own home, the eurozone. In November, inflation in the eurozone averaged 10 percent. Some countries recorded exorbitant figures of more than 20, 21 and 25 percent.
“Today, the authorities in the European Union are saying themselves that the policy of their main partner – the United States – is directly leading to Europe’s de-industrialisation. They are even trying to present some bills for this to their American suzerain. Sometimes, they even sound offended; they want to know why they deserve this. I’d like to ask them, in this context, and what did you expect? How else should one treat those that allow others to wipe their feet on them? But, after all, this is their business.” [My Emphasis]
And from the Russian transcript we learn that Russia’s dedollarization program is doing very well:
“We see the development of a convenient and independent payment infrastructure in national currencies as a basis for strengthening international cooperation. Here we are already have made good progress. According to the latest data, the share of the Russian ruble in our international settlements has doubled compared to December last year and amounted to one third, and together with the currencies of friendly countries, this share exceeded half.”
That’s all I’m going to report about this meeting for now, but don’t let that stop other barflies from doing so. Much of the information in this meeting will become part of Putin’s Address to the Federal Assembly–Russia’s State of the Union–next month. And Russia’s continuing development plans remain aimed at Russia’s rejuvenation. Yesterday’s meeting with government members covered some of those projects.
In the Economic War being waged on Russia, Russia is winning, and in his talk today, Putin tells us why.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 15 2022 16:59 utc | 354

There’s a major problem with the Patriot. It is designed to hit ballistic missiles and aircraft, not cruise missiles. In order to hit low flying cruise missiles, it needs an AWACs. The US provides AWACs coverage to Saudi Arabia. It can’t in Ukraine, except the Western end. Without AWACs, the Patriot can’t see the low flying cruise missile until moments before impact. Kill percentage will be low, especially for supersonic cruise missiles. Hypersonics can’t be hit.

Posted by: JackG | Dec 15 2022 17:01 utc | 355

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 15 2022 16:59 utc | 354
Thank you Karl. Thank you for making people aware of these enormously important statements that would otherwise have disappeared without sound or trace.

Posted by: Mexicana | Dec 15 2022 17:04 utc | 356

@353 Some detail on the possible MIG transfer. Slovakia will be getting F16 replacements. Same deal that didn’t work for Poland.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2022/12/13/slovakia-readies-transfer-of-upgraded-mig-29-warplanes-to-ukraine/

Posted by: dh | Dec 15 2022 17:07 utc | 357

Happy to report Intel Slava Z is back from “vacay” in Moldova jail for running guns!
https://t.me/intelslava/42549

Posted by: Mary | Dec 15 2022 17:23 utc | 358

@ karlof1 | Dec 15 2022 16:59 utc | 354
thanks karlof1…
@ Mary | Dec 15 2022 17:23 utc | 358
tanks mary..

Posted by: james | Dec 15 2022 17:25 utc | 359

Mexicana | Dec 15 2022 17:04 utc | 356
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Second that. Thanks, Karl
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Putin, re EU poodles abused by US Empire:
“Sometimes, they even sound offended; they want to know why they deserve this. I’d like to ask them, in this context, and what did you expect? How else should one treat those that allow others to wipe their feet on them? But, after all, this is their business.”
“In the Economic War being waged on Russia, Russia is winning, and in his talk today, Putin tells us why.”
karlof1 | Dec 15 2022 16:59 utc | 354

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Loved that, especially: “Sometimes, they even sound offended…”
Nicely put. Putin has a finely-tuned sense of humor. Really great to see that; it’s important.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Dec 15 2022 17:31 utc | 360

All praise goes to Jello Biafra – he has been at it since 1991.
Posted by: Anne B | Dec 15 2022 14:28 utc | 325
I had quietly wondered to myself if your comment had been inspired by Jello. ‘I blow minds for a living’ is an old favourite of mine.
Thanks for your patronage and commentary here at B’s bar.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Dec 15 2022 17:55 utc | 361

Slovakia will be getting F16 replacements.
Posted by: dh | Dec 15 2022 17:07 utc | 361

The Slovak government has just fallen.
https://domov.sme.sk/c/23094934/vyslovenie-nedovery-vlada-odvolavanie-heger-matovic-sulik.html

Posted by: too scents | Dec 15 2022 17:57 utc | 362

It would be fun to see the Ukraine shooting their entire Patriot allowance to take down one or two hundred Russian drones, which the Russians can likely replace in 1 to 3 days….

Posted by: Alexander P | Dec 15 2022 17:59 utc | 363

@ too scents | Dec 15 2022 17:57 utc | 366
Part Translation:

Government recall: Heger’s government has fallen, MPs vote no confidence in it (minute by minute)
78 out of 102 MPs present voted for the fall of the government.
Key events
The National Council passed a vote of no confidence in Eduard Heger’s government.
78 out of 102 MPs present voted for the fall of the government, 20 were against, two abstained and two did not vote.
Minister Matovic came to deliver his resignation to the President, then changed his mind.
Parliament refused to put before the vote of no confidence in the government the item on amending the constitution, which would allow shortening the electoral term.
The end of the government is inevitable, Richard Sulík said in response to Matovic’s resignation offer.
We are following the political negotiations on Eduard Heger’s government minute by minute:

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 15 2022 18:11 utc | 364

u ve two russian microphones? i ve my own orginal microphon with me. Dont need any russian microcock. But that Sting has aleays used rusdian micro is interesting
Posted by: Kurt | Dec 15 2022 12:53 utc | 315
The Russians make great microphones that they sell internationally. I have two of them. Sting has always used a Russian mic for his recordings.

Posted by: Ćevapčići | Dec 15 2022 18:18 utc | 365

@ chunga [62]
I read the entire Die Zeit interview. If she was pressured, that did not show up in her words. But maybe…
I had to download the 5 pages separately. Start at page 1:
Link”>https://archive.ph/itph2>Link to Die Zeit interview

Posted by: JessDTruth | Dec 15 2022 18:39 utc | 366

@Bishwara [63]
… if the Iraqis had any SCUDs in 2003, the Bushist invasion of Iraq would have been justified under the WMD sanctions …
SCUDs are not WMD’s. Therefore neither their possession nor their use would have been illegal.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Dec 15 2022 18:42 utc | 367

@ Outraged | Dec 15 2022 18:11 utc | 368

Bloomberg reports on the Slovakian situation:

Early elections would be most beneficial for the center-left parties of two former prime ministers, Peter Pellegrini and Robert Fico, whose parties currently hold the top spots in opinion polls.
Fico, a three-time premier who was forced to step down in 2018 after the murder of a journalist investigating corruption, has rebounded from record low support last year and ranks second in surveys.
If he returns to power, Fico has vowed to stop weapon deliveries to Ukraine and only provide humanitarian assistance instead.
“We have strong reservations about dysfunctional sanctions against Russia,” he said this month.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-15/slovak-government-ousted-from-power-in-no-confidence-vote

Posted by: too scents | Dec 15 2022 18:42 utc | 368

@james 355
I think that your perspective may be a result of trying to focus on an instant in time and a locus in space, rather than as a continuing process. It is accurate to say that, as FDR intended with Churchill’s unwitting assistance, the US succeeded in disassembling the British Empire, with the US oligarchs gobbling up most everything worth stealing, and so becoming the ultimate beneficiary of WW II. However, this was not so much a victory over anyone or anything as the rapacious working out of capitalism. By the end of the war, the US had by far the greatest remaining capital and surviving industry, coupled with a complete lack of wisdom, scruples or social responsibility. The devastating impact their zero-sum perspective has had on the world and it’s people, including practically all Americans, despite their GDP growth being far lower than that of the USSR into the 1970s, was, as Marx predicted in the late 1840s, an emergent consequence of capitalism and globalization, as is the current collapse.

Posted by: Hermit | Dec 15 2022 19:49 utc | 369

F-35 Wunderwaffe landing
https://twitter.com/cbs11doug/status/1603466654704406530
Pilot ejects after landing

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 15 2022 20:40 utc | 370

“They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!”
“And the rock cried out: ‘There’s no hiding place, down here.'”
Ooh, I have an excuse to repost the clip from Babylon 5, where a scheming warmonger, one who made a deal with the Devil(s), gets what he deserves. Feel free to see him as BoJo, having been outwitted by Putin. 😉
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zly_tL5mMc8

Posted by: Babel-17 | Dec 15 2022 22:30 utc | 371

Default anti-air missiles are wonderweapons to Russians?
It’s more likely Ukraine is simply running low on S300s.

Posted by: James Grip | Dec 15 2022 22:49 utc | 372

❗️SAM “Patriot” is barely enough to protect one regional city – Ukrainian aviation expert
There is one big problem in the supply of Western air defense systems to Ukraine – they are disproportionately small, in comparison with even the most minimal needs. This was stated by Ukrainian aviation expert Valery Romanenko on the Obozrevatel channel.
“We started the war with the 31st S-300 complex. Here we need exactly the same amount of “Patriot”. Who will give them to us? We are given one battery – six launchers, and what will it protect? It’s good if it protects one regional city,” Romanenko emphasized.
https://t.me/ukraina_ru/122318

Posted by: Ed | Dec 15 2022 23:13 utc | 373

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 15 2022 20:40 utc | 374
Unreal thank you for that video. What a complete waste. In the US there has been an insane increase in the amount of homeless people and many are in unsustainable situations. Personally witnessed a man being arrested today at Walmart for stealing some sort of can of inhalant then inhaling as much as he could before the police showed up and arrested him.
Land of the free, home of the brave right? The brave have been sucked into right or left politics and the free just want to shut their minds off at any cost. Doesn’t seem sustainable to me.
End the empire, abandon the all the bases and take care of the people here and stop spreading misery around the world. Oh wait they don’t care at all about the normal people. Head brick wall…

Posted by: dust | Dec 15 2022 23:29 utc | 374

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 15 2022 14:51 utc | 332
The Slovakian government has just fallen, so who knows what will happen this week.

Posted by: watcher | Dec 15 2022 23:55 utc | 375

Interesting snippet about Iranian drones on the late news last night. Someone in Ukraine has collected the plentiful wreckage of spent drones to examine the critical design features and technical components.
It turns out that the radio-control gear and other goodies are American in origin and are freely available worldwide, from US hobby shops, by mail order on the www.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 16 2022 0:26 utc | 376

@ Hermit | Dec 15 2022 19:49 utc | 373
thanks and sorry for the late reply.. i do agree with your wider overview here, so thanks for elaborating.. cheers james

Posted by: james | Dec 16 2022 1:26 utc | 377

Putin’s “red lines” have already been crossed. The poor guy. He starts a war then whines when Ukraine defends itself. It’s just so unfair.
Putin will not hold any of Ukraine when this is over, and he will be lucky to escape to his bolt hole in Venezuela.

Posted by: Quartermaster | Dec 16 2022 11:34 utc | 378

Posted by: James Grip | Dec 15 2022 22:49 utc | 376
Default anti-air missiles are wonderweapons to Russians?
What’s a “Default” anti-air missile?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 16 2022 14:59 utc | 379

RE: Norwegian | Dec 15 2022 20:40 utc | 374
you wrote:
F-35 Wunderwaffe landing
https://twitter.com/cbs11doug/status/1603466654704406530
Pilot ejects after landing

It’s a stealth ejection, that way it won’t show up on radar.

Posted by: Perimetr | Dec 16 2022 17:17 utc | 380

@james 381
Ditto (I pressed enter, but did not notice that my “session expired”.
I was certain you would 🙂

Posted by: Hermit | Dec 16 2022 18:36 utc | 381

Assume Ukraine gets one battery. It could be four or eight missiles. The cost is about $1,024,000,000.
Russia can buy 1,000 Dorito drones (not its given name) for about 20,000,000.
But nobody in DC sees a problem here.

Posted by: CJLegalBeagle | Dec 17 2022 13:59 utc | 382

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 14 2022 16:46 utc | 109
Wait… Hasn’t the US military budget been more like 750 b a year for a decade or so? Yeah I know – what’s 100 bil more or less? Our taxpayers are bighearted.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Dec 18 2022 12:50 utc | 383