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December 14, 2022
U.S. To Send More Wunderwaffen To Ukraine

A new round of Wunderwaffen deliveries to Ukraine is taking place. It is unlikely to change the strategic or even operational picture of the war.

The U.S. and its 'allies' are engaged in a boil-the-frog operation in which they steadily increase the lethality and complexity of arms and other support they deliver to Ukraine. At some point in time this process will cross Russian red lines. That's when it will become really interesting

The newest gimmick to be deployed is the Patriot air defense system likely soon to be followed by main battle tanks:

The U.S. is poised to approve sending a Patriot missile battery to Ukraine, finally agreeing to an urgent request from Ukrainian leaders desperate for more robust weapons to shoot down incoming Russian missiles, U.S. officials said Tuesday.

The approval is likely to come later this week and could be announced as early as Thursday, said three officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the decision is not final and has not been made public. Two of the officials said the Patriot will come from Pentagon stocks and be moved from another country overseas.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy pressed Western leaders as recently as Monday to provide more advanced weapons to help his country in its war with Russia. The Patriot would be the most advanced surface-to-air missile system the West has provided to Ukraine to help repel Russian aerial attacks.

During a video conference on Monday, Zelenskyy told host Germany and other leaders of the Group of Seven industrial powers that his country needed long-range missiles, modern tanks, artillery, missile batteries and other high-tech air defense systems to counter Russian attacks that have knocked out electricity and water supplies for millions of Ukrainians.

He acknowledged that, “Unfortunately, Russia still has an advantage in artillery and missiles.”

Well, yes, the artillery advantage the Russian army has in the current battle for Bakhmut is nine to one or even higher:

“For every artillery piece we have, they have nine,” said one soldier.

NATO no longer has the equipment and ammunition reserves to change that.

As for the Patriot, the "Phased Array Tracking Radar to Intercept on Target": Training for them takes quite some time and unless Ukrainians have already been secretly trained on them for several months they will have to be deployed with NATO soldiers or 'former' soldiers to have any effect:

Asked about training, Brig. Gen. Patrick Ryder, the Pentagon press secretary, said that in general the U.S. takes those needs into consideration when providing complicated weapons systems to Ukraine, such as the High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems, known as HIMARS. Currently U.S. forces are training Ukrainian troops on a number of systems, including the HIMARS, in other European countries, such as Germany.

The entire system, which includes a phased array radar, a control station, computers and generators, typically requires about 90 soldiers to operate and maintain, however only three soldiers are needed to actually fire it, according to the Army.

The HIMARS missiles, the previous Wunderwaffen, are now routinely shot down by Russian missile and air defense systems:

The anti-aircraft defence forces shot down two drones in the areas of Zhytlovka and Kremennaya (Lugansk People's Republic).

In addition, two HIMARS MLRS rounds were intercepted near Perovomaysk (Lugansk People's Republic) and a HARM rocket near Makarovka (Kherson region).

The Patriot battery to be deployed to Ukraine is likely one of those that the U.S. currently has in Poland. A German Patriot unit will be deployed to replace it.

The phased array radar that Patriot systems use are good but they are also a weakness. They are visible from satellites with Synthetic Aperture Radar. As researchers have found some years ago:

Amid a busy few weeks of nuclear-related news, an Israeli researcher made a very surprising OSINT discovery that flew somewhat under the radar. As explained in a Medium article, Israeli GIS analyst Harel Dan noticed that when he accidentally adjusted the noise levels of the imagery produced from the SENTINEL-1 satellite constellation, a bunch of colored Xs suddenly appeared all over the globe.

SENTINEL-1’s C-band Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) operates at a centre frequency of 5.405 GHz, which conveniently sits within the range of the military frequency used for land, airborne, and naval radar systems (5.250-5.850 GHz)—including the AN/MPQ-53/65 phased array radars that form the backbone of a Patriot battery’s command and control system. Therefore, Harel correctly hypothesized that some of the Xs that appeared in the SENTINEL-1 images could be triggered by interference from Patriot radar systems.

Using this logic, he was able to use the Xs to pinpoint the locations of Patriot batteries in several Middle Eastern countries, including Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia.


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While SENTINEL-1 images of Ukraine will now likely be censored there is no need for Russia to use those. It has its own SAR systems:

Kondor, GRAU index 14F133, is a series of Earth imaging or military reconnaissance satellites developed by NPO Mashinostroyeniya for the Russian Aerospace Defence Forces which in 2015 became the Russian Space Forces and export customers.

Kondor satellites are equipped to carry either synthetic aperture radar or electro-optical imaging payloads, with the first satellite, and are launched using the Strela carrier rocket, developed by NPO Mashinostroyeniya from retired UR-100 NUTTKh missiles.

Process the SAR data, look for 'noise' crosses, program the coordinates into a number of suicide drones of Iranian design and send them off. This should take no more than an hour. The Russian Reconnaissance Strike Complex is designed to do that:

The Reconnaissance Strike Complex (разведивательно-ударный комплех-RYK) was designed for the coordinated employment of high-precision, long- range weapons linked to real-time intelligence data and precise targeting provided to a fused intelligence and fire-direction center. The RYK functioned at operational depths using surface-to-surface missile systems and aircraft-delivered “smart” munitions. The Reconnaissance Fire Complex (разведивательно-огновой комплех ROK) was the tactical equivalent.

The Reconnaissance Fire System (ROS) is designed to detect, engage and destroy enemy targets in near-real time within the range of tactical units (maneuver battalion and brigade with supporting artillery). On occasion, an artillery brigade or helicopter gunship brigade (a tactical/operational formation) could conduct ROS missions. However, Army Corps and Army Group units normally conduct RYS missions-engaging, detecting and destroying operational targets in near-real time using longer-range reconnaissance and strike systems (especially SSM and aviation systems).

Will the Patriot radar move during the Russian reaction time interval between reconnaissance and strike? I have my doubts.

Wikipedia says that a Patriot battery costs about $1 billion. The radar is the thing that makes these so expensive. Each of its missile costs about $3 million. The suicide drones are maybe $10,000 each. Now do the math …

The most modern missiles Patriot system use have a maximum reach of some 60 kilometer (37 miles). One battery can thus cover a bubble with a 120 kilometer diameter. It may be good for Kiev or Odessa but is nothing that will solve the general military problem Ukraine has.

The Russian forces are superior in technology, personnel and fire power. There is no chance, and never has been, for Ukraine to win that match. No Wunderwaffen, British marines with sea drones or U.S. Patriot systems, will change those basic facts.

Comments

Then declarations by Peshkov on that relations with the West countries escalate to the level of confrontation….
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Dec 14 2022 23:22 utc | 194
Major military movements within Belarus. Belarus conducted a readiness exercise and then suddenly moved forces to the Polish Lithuanian border – the so called gap – and towards Ukraine border. Combine Russian Belarus forces apparently.
Nato war against Russia is all about optics and Bakhmut in de-energized Ukraine is not good optics.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 14 2022 23:42 utc | 201

Scott Ritter has an amusing post up on his Substack. He attended an event during his book tour and was confronted by a Ukraine supporter accusing him of being a Russian propagandist ignorant of the the “Holodomor”. The confrontation did not got well for his accuser. Scott reacted as a Marine and the account is hilarious. He also exposes the myth effectively.
The Holodomor Myth
https://www.scottritterextra.com/p/the-holodomor-myth?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 14 2022 23:44 utc | 202

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 14 2022 23:29 utc | 195
I wonder if Turkmenistan has concluded the gas pipeline to India via Afghanistan and Pakistan is now a dead letter. They spent a lot of money building their section, but the rest seems to be suffering lengthy delays.
Carrying gas across the Caspian in the form of LNG is going to raise its price substantially. Viable in the current crisis, but Crises, almost by definition, don’t last.

Posted by: Gt Stroller | Dec 14 2022 23:44 utc | 203

Macpott | Dec 14 2022 21:43 utc | 169
The physical war against the hegemon is mostly in Ukraine at the moment. The moves in Syria are interesting. Looks like the Kurd’s are being put in their place but still away off for US to be pushed out of Syria. Perhaps this will blow up but it looks as though a combined Syria, Turkey, Russia move against the US. Erdo made it clear to the Kurd’s their US sugar daddy would offer no protection.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 14 2022 23:54 utc | 204

More Wunderwaffen
The Washington Post says it looks like the US is going to send JDAM kits to Ukraine. If they send the ones that convert the 155mm rounds to GPS precision guided, how will that change the artillery imbalance?
I asked that question this morning here:
Posted by: Bill Smith | Dec 14 2022 12:03 utc | 27
If they send the ones to change aircraft dropped bombs, well, it seems Ukraine doesn’t have that many aircraft.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/12/14/ukraine-smart-bomb-jdams/

Posted by: Bill Smith | Dec 15 2022 0:01 utc | 205

@ 108
Monkey-wrenching them is only useful up to a point. They won’t run away again until someone starts killing them in large numbers. No-one understands Americans until they understand their mass personality defect engrained from birth that “you must win” Its all to do with their vicious predatory capitalist economic system. They equate moral character with financial success. They really believe that everyone is where they are because they “deserve” to be where they are- its a bastardization of the puritan belief system which permeates the place. That’s why they’ll keep going in Ukraine. That’s why they could never make the deal with Putin.
But like all narcissistic bullies, they’ll run away again when the chips are down. That’s why the Russians could use nuclear weapons on the damned Poles and the Yanks won’t do a damned thing about it.

Posted by: HOGGY | Dec 15 2022 0:06 utc | 206

marcjf | Dec 14 2022 20:18 utc | 149
The Soviet simple rugged firepower vs US fragile tech. Add to the soviet simple rugged fire power for the frontlines, the later soviet but now mostly Russian tech for hitting anywhere it chooses in Ukraine. Many variations to choose from in that regard so most cost efficient gizmo for ensuring destruction of target can be chose.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 15 2022 0:10 utc | 207

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 14 2022 23:42 utc | 200 “Major military movements within Belarus”
How good is the Belarus Army? Lots of conscripts. It’s not that big, maybe 6+ brigades? Even adding in the number of Russians alleged to be in Belarus, splitting it in the north and south makes it seem neither attack is likely.
Ukraine has been preparing their side of the border for another invasion out of Belarus. In western Ukraine, there have been articles and pictures of the preparations. Narrow north south roads with swampy ground to the sides. Not the best place to invade from.
But it does tie down some Ukrainian forces in the area, just in case.

Posted by: Bill Smith | Dec 15 2022 0:10 utc | 208

The Russian Armed forces thank the Yankees for two very generous gifts of obsolete war toys.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Dec 15 2022 0:11 utc | 209

@204 – More weapons?
Would you really waste some valuable “Patriots” only to react on some very cheep China/Iran drones?
Don’t think so .. the ratio cost/effectivness on that ? 100’s of those “Patriots” may have to be shipped, but where the “Patriots” will then arrive in Poland/Romania/Bulgaria, or by-passed via Odessa?
Not understanding ..

Posted by: spare_truth | Dec 15 2022 0:11 utc | 210

A whole lot of perfect rubbish posted here tonight, tommyrot like what Neofeudalfuture posts above. We have to wonder if these fellows are just more Ukiebots posing as friendly analysts. After all, Kiev has nothing left to expend BUT hot air nowadays. Its army is being annihilated in Artyomovsk/Bakhmut, its cities are plunged into darkness, deprived of power and thus freezing, its air force is basically history, and even the yahoos in Europe are fast coming to hate its emigrated citizens after experiencing months of their chutzpah. I suspect the bozos who run the Zelenskyy government know the checkered history of the Patriot system to date, its failures in real combat, and therefore realize that it will do nothing to save their fake nation from complete military and political collapse. My guess is that all of them have made or are making now preparations for flights to friendly areas where they can live their lives out underwritten by the dough they’ve managed to purloin from the halfwits running NATO.

Posted by: Jack Gordon | Dec 15 2022 0:18 utc | 211

Anne B #108
Have a champagne on me.
The typo was a gem “the hose of Saud” too good:))
I too have waited a lifetime to see the SMO monkey wrench dropped into the USA gears.
The brave Vietnam people did a fine job, followed by the persistence of South Americans. Both at awful cost.
The people of more than half the planet now await and dare to hope that the empire will be hobbled, destroyed even.
If so perhaps people can be free to talk to each other in an appreciative manner. All good.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 15 2022 0:42 utc | 212

The patriot system is simply so large and so many bulky component parts plus 90!! personnel. Sheesh this assembly will be tracked all the way from Poland into Ukraine and on to Kiev or lvov or wherever.
I can see there will be much mirth in the Russian HQ as to how, when where to strike. The Aussies will be making bets on it.
My punt is that the radar will get snotted first by the cheapest drone possible to cover the distance. I would hedge that with maybe special forces atm attack on the radar vehicle just inside the Uke border. I would like to see that.
After the NS2 pipeline trick, GUKUSA needs a lesson. I’ll shout the bar either way. Place your bets ladies and gentlemen (and others) 😉

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 15 2022 1:00 utc | 213

No one has commented on that claim that the Kremlin seems to be inviting Odessa into the fold. Yikes.
In other news,Zelensky orders that the Bakhmut meat grinder continue operation – instead of pleas to withdraw. One side says, ‘we’re going to grind you down” and the other side says ‘OK, we’ll send more guys for you to kill”.
Posted by: Eighthman | Dec 14 2022 16:22 utc | 105
Yep. Makes me wonder. Could it be this is what it all pivots on? That the USA etc. have said ‘keep Bahkmut or its all over, we’re out?’

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 15 2022 1:06 utc | 214

Today, it’s yet an open decision by US-Gov, how many “Patriot” systems may be shipped to UKR (by what local delivery targets ..?).
The US-Government guys are trying to enforce a very new “defence” method against RF aviation capabilities.
Seems US want to have a “Flying control zone” like in Lybia, or so what like ..
So, may they (U$) be lucky with a lot of new “Patriot” systems delivered by cash of US public tax, but we’ll see how to operate those “Patriot” systems successfully next weeks ..

Posted by: spare_truth | Dec 15 2022 1:12 utc | 215

Casualty.
… “Don’t trust Putin. I could be wrong but I”‡

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 15 2022 1:19 utc | 216

Konstantin Paustovsky
Violet ray. Ukraine 1918.
https://en.topwar.ru/111472-fioletovyy-luch.html
For people understanding russian – audio version
https://youtu.be/5ng5ikAVtT0?t=86

Posted by: bi | Dec 15 2022 1:20 utc | 217

Posted by: La Bastille | Dec 14 2022 13:43 utc | 67
Keep them alive -until they can be harvested for organs?

Vitaly Kiselyov, a colonel of the LPR police, stated to RIA News, that “Black transplantologists”, known since 2014 for removing organs from killed or mortally wounded Ukrainian servicemen, arrived in Artyomovsk (Ukrainian name Bakhmut) in the DPR, …

https://www.bitchute.com/video/GcxWwfZjucGA/
Price-list?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/GcxWwfZjucGA/

Posted by: Anne B | Dec 15 2022 1:26 utc | 218

@Neofeudalfuture | Dec 14 2022 15:53 utc | 95
Ukraine has been attacking / probing everywhere, everyday, for months. Losses are insane, and it’s confirmed by recent announcement of ukraine running out of tanks and vehicules. For the russian, It would be both difficult and stupid to attack in this situation, defense is always better when fighting an attrition war.
“They could’ve in 1943 stayed on the defensive everywhere and mightve held on till they had nukes.”
Nukes didn’t have any impact on ww2, they were merely a toy that allowed the general store manager turned president to feel poverful. Basically this level of death a destruction was already achieved without nukes, and Dresden, Hamburg, Cologne disproved the myth that indiscriminate killing of civilians will brake the moral of the enemy: It only reinforce the enemy determination to fight.

Posted by: Phocion | Dec 15 2022 1:36 utc | 219

I’m old enough to recall if someone explained they were deliberately going to pay FIVE TIMES more for something…. To “prove a point”, you would be considered crazy… but here we are:_
>…”The EU is hooked on Russian LNG.
LNG imports from Russia are up ~40% in a year as buyers scramble to replace dwindling piped flows
The EU spent a record €12.5 billion on Russian LNG from Jan-Sept — five times more than a year earlier”
https://twitter.com/SStapczynski/status/1597953709551792128

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 15 2022 1:36 utc | 220

it is not in Russia’s interests to wipe out ukraine’s military.
it should partition ukraine into (eastern) friendlies and (western) crazies. the friendlies’ army will become ally to Russia and can be a deterrent to Nato.
As to the crazies, nothing much can be done except destroy their economy, except let the friendlies deal with them, and let the crazies be a perpetual pain in the butt for their western sponsors. and once the crazies join the EU, most of their young people will be stolen by Germany anyway (like what happened to the Baltic countries, Poland, Rumania, Bulgaria etc).

Posted by: nothing but the trut | Dec 15 2022 1:49 utc | 221

Bill Smith @ 207
Belarus army is 62000 with 350000 reservists. It’s not that populous a country. They could contribute maybe two divisions at front right away. So 6 brigades is about right.
Weather has been much cooler in the north and west. Sunday and Monday is a hard freeze. So Tuesday? We’ll see. I don’t expect it. it could be possible. Different soil types in north and west too. Good enough? Dunno.

Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 15 2022 1:49 utc | 222

abrogard | Dec 15 2022 1:06 utc | 213
Real estate agents say location location location. US Nato propaganda requires optics, optics, optics.
Russia withdrew from right bank Kherson. Great for Nato optics. Location location location is handy for choosing your battlefield. Nato optics must hold onto all ground. Russia is free to choose location for demilitarization and denazification. So often we see Russia set up meat grinders with exceptionally lopsided attrition ratios. A lot of stuff on telegram now. Ukroids are pissed with the comedian. He may well be dispatched with farm implements. Democracy in action.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 15 2022 1:50 utc | 223

From Andrei Martyanov .. Translation: WASHINGTON, December 14 – RIA Novosti. The White House has not confirmed the inclusion of the Patriot air defense system in a future military aid package for Ukraine, said John Kirby, strategic communications coordinator at the National Security Council. “I can’t confirm this message,” he told reporters at a briefing.

Posted by: Brian Gee | Dec 15 2022 2:12 utc | 224

@95 NFF
Why even bother dude. You have NO clue, your comments do nothing but elicit guffaws of laughter from everyone. Even as a paid shill your body of work literally sucks! Move on to something more your intellectual “speed”.

Posted by: safe | Dec 15 2022 2:16 utc | 225

@ Moaobserver | Dec 14 2022 23:20 utc | 193 quote :
“You are probably right. Sorry, I was drinking.”
i skip by your posts for this very reason… everything you say, sounds like you’ve been drinking.. thanks for a moment of honesty…

Posted by: james | Dec 15 2022 2:22 utc | 226

@ zanon 122
RT ‘s parent company is accused of ‘ gravely distorting facts’.
Not really gravely because the Zukro – nazis don’t really bother with graves, mostly because Valhalla is so great.
Not intentionally, but unescapably, I hate Christmas, and the mass psychosis of Christmas is already sowing its bitter taste on this blog, the taste of ‘ gravely
distorted facts.’
Once upon a time , a long time ago, a collection of people decided that venture capitalism, or piracy, rape and pillage as it was known then , sucked. So they collectivised society and banned the Venture Gangster Capitalists.
Because the VGC s were in the habit of gravely distorting the truth, those collectivist also decided to ban the VGC religion , which was that God’s deputy on earth would forgive every atom of blame on every Venture Gangster Capitalist.
Well , the Green Light God , also known as the Green Man, is celebrated at the wunderfest of Piratical Wodenism we now call Christmas.
Did you know if you look through the green sweet wrapper, when you look up, your eyes see red.
I’m not a communist, and I’m not a Christian Piratical Green Wodenist. I’m a believer in Justice and a Just God. Communism seems to gave made the error of destroying the concept of a Just God along with the very and the bath water.
But I will say one thing about this war in Ukraine, the Ukranians dying in the trenches in the Russian meat grinder have got the exact reward they deserve, from a Just God, for their belief if Piratical Venture Gangster Capitalist Wodenist Christmas. Nazism is the perfect reward and totally logical conclusion of a religion calked Protestantism that believes that God’s deputy is going to forgive everything.
Amen.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 15 2022 2:29 utc | 227

The Ron Paul Institute features an article by James George Jatras which includes links to MoA’s recent Ukraine Sitrep:
Is Russian Restraint Averting the Risk of Nuclear War – or Inviting It?
It’s anyone’s guess. Mr. Jatras concludes:
“Bottom line: what Moscow does next will not only determine the course of the war in Ukraine but whether the world goes up in radioactive smoke. Does restraint and non-response to provocation make the apocalyptic scenario more likely, or less?
Billionaires are all set with their underground tunnels.
Do you have a Bug-out?
Posted by: Likklemore | Dec 14 2022 20:16 utc | 148
All this nuclear war drama is getting tiresome. Pure Fear Porn – I don’t care who is writing this alarmist crap. The Evil Empire is, of course evil. But it won’t be much of an empire if nukes fly. So, stop this talk. The Russians won’t launch unless they know the Americans are, or will launch. The Americans won’t launch because at the end of the day it is about making money for them. Being the Hegemon makes it easier to make money. Once they know they cannot be the Hegemon, they will adapt a fallback position, if only to plot their next move. Who wants to rule over a devastated planet? And for those who think the American Empire is the culmination of some ancient Talmudic Satanic Conspiracy to enslave the world or blow it up, think about that for a minute. A group with thousands of years of patience is not going to suddenly throw a hissy fit and destroy the playground because the dollar isn’t the world reserve currency any more, or Israel can’t have Syria and Crimea. What we actually have in the Ukraine is another very nasty war that could expand to a world war and get lots of people killed in the old-fashioned way. That’s reason enough to be concerned.

Posted by: Activist Potato | Dec 15 2022 2:41 utc | 228

This joke was told me by the man who enjoyed shagging my ex , my daughter, and my subsequent girlfriend. The moral of the joke is that people who believe in the ideological notion of freedom , necessarily believe in Victoria Nuland’s right to destroy Ukraine and Ukranians and to.purchase the land and inheritance of Ukranians using grift from Western Capitalists.
A neighbour in the outback of Australia invites his neighbour to a party, plenty of food , booze and sex. When the guy arrives he sees the food and the booze, but no women.
Victoria Nuland fucking the EU IS the sex.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 15 2022 2:57 utc | 229

My question is this: If Russia has the means to defeat the Patriot missiles then why declare it beforehand? Why show your hand? Why not just silently destroy them? Wouldn’t that tip the designers of the Patriot missiles to their inadequacy/flaws?

Posted by: lorenc | Dec 15 2022 3:10 utc | 230

“They leave many supply lines open in order to lure the Ukrainians into attacking, sending more and more soldiers to their death”
One thing I truly envy you fanatics is your ability to believe in a secret masterplan and 5D chess. It must be so nice. Look, the Patriots are 3d echelon defenses, not frontline.

Posted by: Fnord73 | Dec 15 2022 3:12 utc | 231

@ Activist potato 227
A group with thousands of years of patience.
The fly in the ointment of your argument is that this group didn’t have thousands of years of patience when their Messiah pbuh showed up , calling them away from business to worship. They tried to kill him, but he got taken up and is coming back to Damascus. The Messiah pbuh has passed the
thousands of years at God’s leisure while the pre- Wodenites and Wodenites and post-Wodenites we call communists, have been slugging it out down here on earth.
All because they couldn’t listen to a tiny bit of truth. Not much patience at all at all. How long can they continue to block their ears?

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 15 2022 3:13 utc | 232

@ Fnord73 230
3d echelon defences
Yup. If I had a Patriot in my back garden I might just be able to have a pop at Telford Coventry or Stratford.
Russian hypersonic weapons will take out Washington Tokyo London and Jerusalem.
A totally different echelon of echelon.
Look , I hate Christmas. Nothing personal. After one month I promise I will be nice again. Ban me better . I will stop being a Himars shooting at passing pigeons.
The empire is in Panic mode, Dalek mode, Exterminate. EXTERMINATE.
One day soon, Russia will have to mercy – kill Empire, before it nukes us all.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 15 2022 3:29 utc | 233

@ Activist Potato | Dec 15 2022 2:41 utc | 227
Fully concur.
Numerous occasions where Empire has been full-on directly confronted/humiliated/defeated since WWII, they have stood down.
If they have to, IMV, they will ultimately withdraw to USA status ~1890, & make the most of it, whilst evermore scheming & making covert plans & plausibly-deniable actions in vain attempts to somehow re-attain former power/dominance.
See: ie, fate of, Deposed Emperor Shaddam IV, Dune, Frank Herbert.
However, the longer Nukes are on alert status, more so if Empire becomes an open direct belligerent, the potential for an in-the-field weapon release, subsequent built in escalation to MAD in response, given ever looser or (willfully/unintentionally ?) mis-interpreted situational ROEs re delegated weapon release, increases exponentially over time …
See: Crimson Tide & similar, & numerous documented declassified ‘There, but for the Grace of Dog …incidents … Big-Bada-Boom! (nsarchive.gwu.edu)
On the other hand, post … JFK, Cuban Crisis & ‘Dr Strangelove & Fail Safe (1964)’, at the height of the Vietnam War :

Top Air Force Official Told JCS in 1971: “We Could Lose Two Hundred Million People [in a Nuclear War] and Still Have More Than We Had at the Time of the Civil War” – The Moorer Joint Chiefs of Staff
Declassified Diary Excerpt and Other Records of Ex-JCS Chairman Moorer Detail Highest-Level Military Deliberations, Including with White House. JCS Minutes, Once Thought Entirely Destroyed, Partially Preserved in Moorer Records at U.S. National Security Archives: Published: Feb 15, 2017, Briefing Book #580
Washington, D.C. February 15, 2017 – The Air Force chief of staff told the Joint Chiefs at a September 1971 meeting that in a nuclear war the United States “could lose two hundred million people and still have more than we had at the time of the Civil War.” The quote comes from a recently declassified and highly revealing diary entry by JCS Chairman Thomas Moorer, published today for the first time by the National Security Archive at The George Washington University. The other chiefs did not challenge Gen. Thomas Ryan’s inaccurate numbers, seemingly choosing to ignore his comment altogether.
The notes are not only an eye-opening acknowledgement of certain senior military attitudes about nuclear survivability in the early 1970s, but are part of a critically important discovery – the existence among Admiral Moorer’s files of at least a partial record of JCS meetings that were thought to have been lost after the Chiefs in the late 1970s destroyed their entire collection of minutes going back to 1947.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 15 2022 3:38 utc | 234

Fnord73 | Dec 15 2022 3:12 utc | 230
OK Illuminatus! Let’s drop conspiracy theory and stick to the facts. Will Wunderwaffen halt the UAF’s retreat at Bakhmut? A few weeks ago Prigozhin advised keyboard warriors to not to follow the Bahkmut battle day by day – because it takes time to clear mines and booby-traps. Yet here we are again with Anglo-Saxons who want to impose their time table, as if they command.
British Defence Intelligence published a concern troll a couple days ago about how Bahkmut has no strategic value and the RF wastes men to take it. If we accept the troll’s premise, then why does the UAF fight so hard to keep something with no strategic value?

Posted by: ? | Dec 15 2022 3:38 utc | 235

▫️European countries complain about the depletion of arsenals due to the supply of Ukrainians, but at the same time, even the United States bypasses some types of weapons provided to Kiev.
▫️While the Pentagon cannot decide to send Patriot air defense systems, French Foreign Minister Catherine Colonna said yesterday that Paris has already supplied Ukraine with part of the air defense systems, another batch will be delivered in the near future.
▫️Later, the French media revealed details, saying that Italy and France seem to be ready to supply SAMP-T anti-aircraft missile systems, known as Mamba, to Ukraine.
▫️So far, we are talking about the fact that Kiev’s application for the provision of air defense systems has been accepted. If approved, Italy will hand over the radars, and France will hand over the launchers themselves. There is no information about the timing of sending air defense systems and their number yet.
▫️SAMP-T air defense systems developed by the European concern Eurosam are in service with the French and Italian armies and are part of the unified NATO air defense system in Europe. SAMs are designed both to protect troops on the march and to cover stationary objects. The installations can shoot down aircraft, UAVs, cruise and anti-radar missiles, including tactical ballistic missiles, at a distance of 15 to 35 km in any weather.
▫️It is believed that Mamba surpasses Patriot in a number of characteristics.
▫️While the American SAM is equipped with 4 missiles, the SAMP-T installation fires 8 missiles at targets within 10 seconds, and can conduct 360-degree circular firing. At the same time, the complex simultaneously accompanies up to 10 different targets, including inconspicuous and highly maneuverable, and is controlled by a crew of only 2 people.
▫️Even if Kiev receives these modern air defense systems, it is doubtful that they will protect the marching columns of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and even more so will be in the frontline zone.
▫️Most likely, the SAM will be placed closer to the Ukrainian capital or near other important strategic facilities. Another question is who will manage these complex systems. After all, it takes more than one month to train even 2 operators from scratch. It turns out that Italy and France will be forced to attach their military personnel to the SAM.

https://t.me/azmilitary11/30880

Posted by: Down South | Dec 15 2022 3:46 utc | 236

Bakhmutovskaya meat grinder takes on negative connotations.
Now information has appeared that the road to Konstantinovka and Chasov Yar is completely under the fire control of the Russians (PMC Wagner). This means that the supply of the active units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine may soon completely stop, which will provoke further encirclement.
Now the Office of the President is throwing all its forces there to keep the city under its control, but everything is going according to the scenario of the Severodonetsk loop, when the Armed Forces of Ukraine, after heavy losses, had to retreat from Severodonetsk and Lysichansk.

https://t.me/legitimniy/14325

Posted by: Down South | Dec 15 2022 3:52 utc | 237

Our source reports that the Office of the President is manually slowing down repairs and assistance in spare parts for the energy case for the Dnieper.
The Dnieper is specially “frozen” in order to create problems for the mayor of the city Filatov and negative from the community.
Now all the cities where the mayors are in opposition to Zelensky/Yermak will receive assistance and other “goodies” last.
With such a life hack “sabotage”, they will lower the popularity of “inconvenient mayors”.
Elections are close, and every player wants to use the winter to their advantage.

https://t.me/legitimniy/14326

Posted by: Down South | Dec 15 2022 3:54 utc | 238

So far , it seems to me that this war will be won by drones ,missiles- launchers and artillery.
Patriots are supposedly only good against old ballistic missiles and Russian bombers etc So in effect stop they stop Russian bombers from carpet-bombing. Marine- drones have bottled up all Russian ships in Sevastopol naval base. Helicopters are kept on the ground due to stingers and manpads?
I am really confused on where this war is going, or even if Russia is winning. Even if a Winter Offensive occurs ,what will it change? So Russia takes all of Ukraine, what then ? Insurgency. If it stays East of the Dneiper only then we are still in the same position. Just a stalemate. How long will Russia just keep in a stalemate in attrition warfare?

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 15 2022 3:56 utc | 239

” My question is this: If Russia has the means to defeat the Patriot missiles then why declare it beforehand? Why show your hand? Why not just silently destroy them? Wouldn’t that tip the designers of the Patriot missiles to their inadequacy/flaws?”
Posted by: lorenc | Dec 15 2022 3:10 utc | 229

This is exactly right IMO. They are trying desperately to get the RF to show off weapons they don’t know about for sure, but maybe suspect. They are afraid of what the RF has but hasn’t used yet. Unfortunately Ukraine seems to be the testing/experimenting ground for the 2 biggest arms exporters on the planet.

Posted by: dust | Dec 15 2022 3:58 utc | 240

Son against father – how Bukov proved in Ukraine
SVO became a real benefit of Soviet and Russian air defense. It suddenly turned out that even the forty-year-old Buk-M1 is still a significant opponent of modern aviation. Ukraine’s air defenses are stuck in the 80s, but even this is enough to provide decent resistance to one of the most powerful air forces in the world. The most interesting thing is that even deliveries of relatively modern Western anti-aircraft systems did not affect the situation in the sky over Ukraine, which once again proves how serious the Buk-M1 weapon is.
What to say about the Buk-M3 complex, which is in the service of the Russian army. This is not even a deep modification, but simply a second-generation machine.
If the Buk-M1 can hit a target such as an aircraft at a distance of 35 km, and a cruise missile at 25 km, then the Buk-M3 is capable of destroying similar targets at a distance of up to 70 km.
The situation is similar with the speed of potential targets. If the “old” Buk yielded to the enemy flying at a speed of more than 800 m / s, then a modern modification can shoot down a missile moving at a speed of 3000 m / s. The number of simultaneously tracked targets also doubled to 36.
The Buk-M3 proved to be excellent during SVO – with its help, they shot down the acclaimed HIMARS missiles and destroyed Ukrainian planes.
But Buk’s greatest contribution to the fighting was neutralizing the threat of dozens of Bayraktars in the Ukrainian skies. The drone, which has performed so well in recent local conflicts, could not realize even a tenth of its potential when faced with the modern air defense of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
Perhaps today, the Buk-M3 is the best medium-range air defense system in the world. This complex will provide reliable air defense of our army in the coming years.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/24964

Posted by: Down South | Dec 15 2022 4:01 utc | 241

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ #Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 14 Dec 2022⚡️
♦️#Kiev Region:
▪️ The RF Armed Forces have hit targets in the village of #Vishnevoye and the Shevchenkovsky district of Kiev with Geran-2 kamikaze drones.
♦️#Russia’s Border Areas:
▪️ Ukrainian militants shelled the village of #Zhuravlevka in #Belgorod region; no damage or casualties.
▪️ In the evening, air defence equipment went off in the town of #Klintsy in the #Bryansk region. Ammunition remnants fell on power lines and disrupted power supply in the village of #Ardon.
♦️#Starobelsk Direction:
▪️ There are no significant changes on the frontline. Positional battles are taking place near #Kuzemovka and #Makeyevka, artillery duels continue.
♦️#Soledar Direction (MAP):
▪️ In the #Bakhmut (#Artemovsk) area, fighting is going on in the east of the city in the area of Fedor Maksimenko Street and Pervomaysky Lane.
➖ In #Opytnoye, units of the Wagner PMC are storming the fortified long-term positions of the AFU’s 53rd Mechanized Brigade, which has established a strong fortification in the settlement.
➖ Northeast of #Bakhmut, Russian forces are advancing towards #Podgorodnoye.
➖ The AFU command concentrates its forces in Chasovy Yar and plans to counterattack in the vicinity of #Bakhmut.
▪️ In the #Soledar sector, the RF Armed Forces have taken a stronghold near #Soledar.
▪️ In the #Lysychansk sector, positional fighting is taking place near #Belogorovka.
♦️#Donetsk Direction (MAP):
▪️ In the #Avdeyevka sector, Russian servicemen captured a group of Ukrainian militants while storming a stronghold near #Pervomayskoye.
▪️ Fierce fighting continues in the centre of #Maryinka. The RF Armed Forces were able to occupy the road to #Krasnogorovka, cutting the supply line to the settlement. ⚠️
▪️ Artillery duels are taking place in the #Ugledar area. In the area of Bolshaya (Velikaya) Novosyolka, Russian servicemen have again gone over to defence (after a failed attack).
♦️#Zaporozhye Direction:
▪️ Russian missile forces and artillery have carried out several strikes on AFU facilities in #Zaporozhye, #Gulyaypole and #Olgovskoye.
♦️#Kherson Direction on Southern Front:
▪️ Artillery duels continue. The RF Armed Forces have been working on targets in #Kherson, hitting an administration building and storage facilities, while Ukrainian militants shelled a recreation base in #Lazurnoye.

https://t.me/sitreports/2100

Posted by: Down South | Dec 15 2022 4:03 utc | 242

Posted by: Winston | Dec 14 2022 16:04 utc | 101

Actually, US will divest itself of older, flat-bottomed Strykers before MBTs.

More importantly, the Strykers will divest the AFU of new recruits (being essentially mobile coffins).
By the time MBTs are available there will probably be nobody left to crew them …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 15 2022 4:03 utc | 243

Putting the corp(se) into Corporate media …..
>…”Washington Post CEO just announced massive layoffs as the publication HEMORRHAGES subscribers. 500K lost THIS YEAR. “
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1603091145634062338
Also:
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1603168041344311296
“BREAKING: The Biden administration is planning to send advanced electronic equipment to Ukraine that converts unguided aerial munitions into “smart bombs” that can target Russian military positions with a high degree of accuracy, senior U.S. officials – WaPo
>…JDAMs
>…JDAMs have a range of 28 km they’re most likely going to only be operating in Ukraine hitting the annexed areas where military installations
>…JDAMs are about 500lbs of explosives, should be good enough to take out bridges in one go.
> Imagine dozens of 500-pound smart bombs. This is going to destroy Russia’s defense lines.
Each dot represents $100,000 dollars.
Graphic graphic:
https://twitter.com/GenesisCapitalG/status/1603201385205473280

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 15 2022 4:14 utc | 244

Patriots have combat effectiveness of 0%, starting in the Persian Gulf War (’90-’91) against 50’s era SRBMs (Iraqi Scuds), through to today :

Patriot missiles are made in America and fail everywhere – Source: Mirrored from – Foreign Policy (2018) (Walled)
March 29 2018 – The evidence is in: the missile defense system that the United States and its allies rely on is a lemon.
TEHRAN, Young Journalists Club (YJC) – On March 25, Houthi forces in Yemen fired seven missiles at Riyadh. Saudi Arabia confirmed the launches and asserted that it successfully intercepted all seven.
This wasn’t true. It’s not just that falling debris in Riyadh killed at least one person and sent two more to the hospital. There’s no evidence that Saudi Arabia intercepted any missiles at all. And that raises uncomfortable questions not just about the Saudis, but about the United States, which seems to have sold them — and its own public — a lemon of a missile defense system.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 15 2022 4:16 utc | 245

“…what domestic technology does Russia export? Does anyone own anything made in Russia?”
Johnycomelately | Dec 14 2022 20:54 utc | 159

______
Nope, rocket/jet engines, space shuttles, satellites, and space stations are a tad above my pay grade.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Dec 15 2022 4:20 utc | 246

I’m always aware that we don’t know the actual target of public comments. When Russia says it will target Patriot missiles if they are deployed, does it really mean it will target the NATO personnel who will be operating them?

Posted by: Pete Jones | Dec 15 2022 4:21 utc | 247

“At some point in time this process will cross Russian red lines. That’s when it will become really interesting …”
It’s culminating globally. Russia’s red lines will be worthless when the West crosses red lines in this place and that place and that other place over there and that other place too (Serbia, for instance)–which is coming about even now as we posit “how interesting it will be.” (I understand this is a figure of speech poorly chosen).
“Whistle or lose it” was a juvenile phrase in my high-school-walking-down-the-hall days. Even being fast wasn’t good enough. The bullies meant it/Your ‘It’ was up for grabs.
Again, who is the world’s recent, largest, most devastational bully? Whistle very soon or lose it. The bums’ rush has been gathering as we speak. Half of it probably hidden.
Act.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Dec 15 2022 4:29 utc | 248

About that other “wonderwaffle”….
Posted by: Stonebird | Dec 14 2022 11:01 utc | 13
***
Ha, sent as part of a $$$$ combined arms package with six crack squadrons of Flying Toasters

Posted by: Vintage Red | Dec 15 2022 4:53 utc | 249

One thing I truly envy you fanatics is your ability to believe in a secret masterplan.”
Fnord73 | Dec 15 2022 3:12 utc | 230

_____
No, most here clearly understand that military planning does not follow a master plan. Like chess or martial arts, it is a highly adaptive and reiterative process.
Then again, the clear-eyed, impartial analysis and objective insight you so consistently, eloquently impart here puts most of us to shame. Thank you for descending from the heights to grace us with your enlightenment and save us from ignorance.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Dec 15 2022 5:06 utc | 250

@ Doug Hillman | Dec 15 2022 5:06 utc | 249
LOL. 🙂

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 15 2022 5:31 utc | 251

Peter Jones [246]
There are no NATO uniforms. If anyone is on the battlefield they are targets

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Dec 15 2022 5:43 utc | 252

Johnnycomelately
Actually I own Soviet binoculars with excellent optics. I find Russian chocolate excellent unlike Cadbury now Americans own it
I own next to nothing made in USA but respect the fact US makes in Mexico or China
Top Russian Tech is Mil-Spec but I can buy Kaspersky or use Telegram or Yandex
Did you realise Steve Jobs‘ father was Syrian ?

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Dec 15 2022 5:51 utc | 253

Posted by: Johnycomelately | Dec 14 2022 20:54 utc | 159
Realistically, what domestic technology does Russia export? Does anyone own anything made in Russia?
The fact that so few people own Russian products is an indication of their exclusivity.
I for one would like a Faberge’ egg or two …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 15 2022 5:55 utc | 254

Scott Ritter talks to Judge Napolitano and trashes the Patriot as being useful to Ukraine… He pretty much says what I said – they’re going to be destroyed, they won’t be effective against Russian cruise missiles and drones, etc. Also talks about UK Marines in Ukraine and other matters. Worth the listen.
Russia Targets Kyiv with More Drones – Scott Ritter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Egd2ecpW0

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 15 2022 6:03 utc | 255

Largest attack ever on Donetsk last night. Worst since 2014. Over 40 missiles reported. Burning buildings everywhere.
Where is Marty from Amerika and his slow is best gang? Winning, right?

Posted by: rk | Dec 15 2022 6:15 utc | 256

@rk | Dec 15 2022 6:15 utc | 255
So how is shelling civilian buildings and killing children and old people leading paving the road to victory?

Posted by: Goingo | Dec 15 2022 6:36 utc | 257

Why is anyone responding to the troll “rk”?

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 15 2022 6:41 utc | 258

“Let’s drop conspiracy theory and stick to the facts. Will Wunderwaffen halt the UAF’s retreat at Bakhmut?”
Nah, Bakhmut may fall in the end. How many russian storminfantry it costs is the question. Y’ all talk about Russia seting up meatgrinders but fail to see the one they are in.

Posted by: Fnord73 | Dec 15 2022 6:47 utc | 259

Doug Hilmann: Youre welcome. Now, where is this russian winter offensive that will sweep the already exterminated ukrainian forces away, please tell? And how is the russian logistics these days?

Posted by: Fnord73 | Dec 15 2022 6:54 utc | 260

@RSH
Sorry – you´re right.
Don´t know if anybody posted this before: The US DOD flunked the audit for the 5th time in a row.
That leads to some gems:
“The Defense Department has failed its fifth-ever audit, unable to account for more than half of its assets”
” from 1998 to 2015, there were $21 Trillion of unaccounted-for financial adjustments on the Pentagon’s books”
“Defense Michael McCord: “So even if you haven’t yet got to the point where you’ve got — turned a disclaimer into a clean opinion. If you are going faster, that is still progress.”
“If one Pentagon department doesn’t know where the fuck the money’s going, and they haven’t been able to turn that into knowin’ where the fuck the money’s going, some of them are able to more quickly tell us they have no idea where the fuck the money’s going than they used to be. And that is called progress.” No it’s not! It’s not progress! Sucking quicker is not progress unless you’re on a porn set and lunch break is fast approaching.”
“What they found were several new weaknesses in how DOD accounted for its assets, which include nearly 2.9 million military personnel; equipment and weapons including 19,700 aircraft and more than 290 ships; and physical items including buildings, roads and fences on 4,860 sites worldwide.”
““The Army also provided the GAO access to the Army’s own internal real estate database. Investigators noted that the Army’s database claimed that service officials reviewed facilities in the years 0012, 1776, 2201 and 3013.” Man, that is one advanced Pentagon inspection department.”
https://www.mintpressnews.com/pentagon-admits-account-half-assets-amid-audit-failure/283006/
Well at least in inaccountability the DOD leads 404 in the “right” way. But one wonders how they are able to locate some wunderwaffen at all.

Posted by: Goingo | Dec 15 2022 6:57 utc | 261

Posted by: rk | Dec 15 2022 6:15 utc | 255
Posted by: Fnord73 | Dec 15 2022 6:47 utc | 258
Maybe you are the same person because you sure seem to be channeling the same spirit. If you can’t see how irreversibly things have changed worldwide then you deserve each other. Does 2 people channeling the same sprit deserve a new pronoun? Goodnight…

Posted by: dust | Dec 15 2022 6:59 utc | 262

Posted by: Bill Smith | Dec 14 2022 23:42 utc | 199
Well that’s a very good point. I let myself overlook thinking of that. But I was all fired up with the notion that Russia has been deliberately demonstrating, I think, that it can hit any place in Ukraine whenever it wants, hasn’t it? Point taken, not with artillery though, rocketry rather.
So if they can then I’m saying do it to the entry points. If they can’t then okay, that’s a different thing.
But there’s also this: the entry points are at the ends (beginnings?) of well traveled, good quality roads and railway tracks.
So if you can’t hit the end, hit as far as you can reach. Draw your arc on the map and count how many of these good roads and tracks you cross. Target those points. I doubt there’s too many in context with a military that’s facing thousands of targets across the whole country.
There certainly wouldn’t be that many railway tracks.
And roads: of course they can turn off the highway and head for the second class roads. Well as quick as they do that the Russian could become aware of it and target the ‘turn off’ points or even vulnerable parts of the roads. Second class roads tend to have more vulnerable parts.
And talking vulnerable parts there’s marshaling yards and tunnels (road and rail). The point is to interdict supply lines. Surely a prime target requiring a ‘can do’ attitude rather than ‘can’t do’ ?

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 15 2022 7:00 utc | 263

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 15 2022 4:14 utc | 243
and the allied side cannot do this? cannot target with a high degree of accuracy and deliver 500lb bombs? Just asking. I don’t know. But I felt they could. I thought they boasted about it somewhere.
My interest: if 500lb bombs will bust russia’s defence lines (and if they can do it too) then how come they didn’t bust the Kiev defence lines in donbas?
Must be they can’t do it. russia’s military looks worse and worse with each passing day…

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 15 2022 7:18 utc | 264

When everyone tells the same thing you should ask only yourself if you are not a troll. Let me know your begging patreon id, I give you $5 , double your weekly money

Posted by: rk | Dec 15 2022 7:18 utc | 265

Of course things have changed. But I sincerely think that a fascist Russia is going to be the looser, and become a chinese vassal at best. The Eurasian split is real, and Russia is Chinas pawn at the moment. They had a choice, and went east, fair enough. But they are not getting Ukraine and the Azov sea.

Posted by: Fnord73 | Dec 15 2022 7:22 utc | 266

Why is anyone responding to the troll “Fnord73”?

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 15 2022 7:25 utc | 267

Posted by: Krollchem | Dec 14 2022 19:26 utc | 136
Thank you very much for that great article on the technical / aerodynamic analysis of the Houthi “Quds” cruise missile, demonstrating how to piece together an analysis from the sort of information that is available in the public domain.
Here’s the link again:
https://jetguyone.home.blog/

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 15 2022 7:34 utc | 268

@Stonebird 121
Multiply 20 gallons per hour (idling) and 7 gallons per mile (driving) by the number of tanks, and consider that a large US tanker holds less than 12000 gallons. No sane tank crew will turn off their engine on a combat zone, as it is a slow complicated process to start one, and with the engine off, the tank cannot use it’s weapon systems.
Now consider that Ukrainian operated tanks will be competing with generators for liquid fuel, brought in by scarce trains, reliant on the failing electric grid and fragile infrastructure and you will realize that the more Abrams tanks are supplied to Ukraine the worse off they will be, making my them the ultimate modern white elephant*.
*Legend has it that, when the King of Siam wanted to punish one of his courtiers, he did not kill the offender. All he had to do was gift him a white elephant.
These animals were beautiful. They were sacred. They were also nightmarishly costly to care for, and it was unlikely the new owner even had the proper space in which to house the large beast. Upon receiving such a pachyderm, The New York Times reported in 1873, “the luckless recipient knows at once his fate is sealed.” He had no choice — like so many of us during the holiday season — but to smile through gritted teeth and say that he loved the gift.
This story is almost certainly apocryphal. Wright, Jennifer Ashley (2022-11-23). A Brief History of the White Elephant Party. NY Times.

Posted by: Hermit | Dec 15 2022 7:37 utc | 269

Sending (the dubiously effective) Patriot missiles to Ukraine now is like closing the barn doors after the horses have already ledt the stables. After all, much of the electrical grid in Ukraine is toast, the RF has already destroyed the Ukrainian Air Force and Navy, etc etc
But no worries for the West, as it seems the Pentagon has learned that Russia is desperate!
The Pentagon this week is suggesting that Russia is growing increasingly desperate in maintaining steady ammo supplies, with senior officials describing 40-year old Soviet-era ammo being used, claiming Moscow is turning to countries like North Korea, and relying increasingly on Iran. 
“They [Moscow] have drawn from ageing ammunition stockpiles, which does indicate that they are willing to use older ammunition, some of which was originally produced more than 40 years ago,” a senior Pentagon official told a press briefing.
This makes it potentially faulty, unreliable, and even dangerous for the Russian troops operating the heavy guns, the official described: “In other words, you load the ammunition and you cross your fingers and hope it’s going to fire or when it lands that it’s going to explode.”

Posted by: Perimetr | Dec 15 2022 7:37 utc | 270

Sending (the dubiously effective) Patriot missiles to Ukraine now is like closing the barn doors after the horses have already ledt the stables. After all, much of the electrical grid in Ukraine is toast, the RF has already destroyed the Ukrainian Air Force and Navy, etc etc
But no worries for the West, as it seems the Pentagon has learned that Russia is desperate! According to Zero Hedge (no link cause this gets deleted when included):
The Pentagon this week is suggesting that Russia is growing increasingly desperate in maintaining steady ammo supplies, with senior officials describing 40-year old Soviet-era ammo being used, claiming Moscow is turning to countries like North Korea, and relying increasingly on Iran. 
“They [Moscow] have drawn from ageing ammunition stockpiles, which does indicate that they are willing to use older ammunition, some of which was originally produced more than 40 years ago,” a senior Pentagon official told a press briefing.
This makes it potentially faulty, unreliable, and even dangerous for the Russian troops operating the heavy guns, the official described: “In other words, you load the ammunition and you cross your fingers and hope it’s going to fire or when it lands that it’s going to explode.”

Posted by: Perimetr | Dec 15 2022 7:38 utc | 271

typo,
“the horses have already LEFT the stables”

Posted by: Perimetr | Dec 15 2022 7:40 utc | 272

@Lex 196
What war did the US “win” in 1945?
I suggest that the last wars that the US sort of “won” was against Spain in 1898.

Posted by: Hermit | Dec 15 2022 7:42 utc | 273

Can someone explain to me why the Russians aren’t eliminating these weapons as they come into the country, and the roads, rails, ships, bridges, and tunnels that they come in on? Are they unable to do that for reasons that I am not aware of?
Posted by: Gigo | Dec 14 2022 12:04 utc | 28
Uh, not an expert here but could that be because when already deployed and marching into battle Ivan could destroy BOTH the hardware and their specialized crews…?

Posted by: gatobart | Dec 15 2022 7:47 utc | 274

@Perimetr | Dec 15 2022 7:38 utc | 269
The patriot system was fielded 1984. So IF Russia is turning to antiques, too, the superb AAD should be able to cope w/ that since it is equally outdated. 😉
And by the way – it wouldn´t matter on what objekts 404 will waste the expensive Ammo while at the same time disclosing the location of the patriot system so it can be destroyed by a cheap drone.

Posted by: Goingo | Dec 15 2022 7:48 utc | 275

I think the Russians are waiting like the spider in the net

Posted by: G wiltek | Dec 15 2022 7:54 utc | 276

The Patriot missile system involves multiple trucks etc which would be impossible to hide from satelites. At $1 billion each it will be an expensive failure once spotted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7SKg6xWI7Y

Posted by: Jonathan Mills | Dec 15 2022 7:56 utc | 277

… Lucky it’s only mouse-click dollars eh? But taxpayers are on the hook.
Posted by: Likklemore | Dec 14 2022 20:01 utc | 142

That’s the thing about US deficit spending, it’s extortion (of treasury buyers / holders) not actual debt, the nominal outstanding amount is too great to ever be repaid.
Exactly how it’ll seize up and fail is another matter.

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 15 2022 8:00 utc | 278

@Simon 192
What is left of Ukraine may have a GDP of $40 billion a year (20% of the pre-2022 GDP), and already owes ove $100 billion for equipment and materiels already supplied. How likely will the collapsing USA in the process of seeing the end of the petrodollar (and repatriation of those amounts) be to keep supplying the Ukraine on the never-never?.

Posted by: Hermit | Dec 15 2022 8:05 utc | 279

Posted by: Anne B | Dec 14 2022 16:47 utc | 108
You wrote: For me- who have waited a life-time for someone to monkey-wrench the Outlaw US Empire, it is a very Special Military Operation.
Ah, Anne: what a gem. Thank you so much.
Posted by: Mexicana | Dec 14 2022 17:08 utc | 111
+1 Thanks!

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Dec 15 2022 8:08 utc | 280

Posted by: Krollchem | Dec 14 2022 19:26 utc | 136

Disappointing that Russia ignored their drone manufacturers’ offers to construct drones and drone killer drones until after the SMO Ukraine war started! This is why Russia had to copy their drones after Iranian drones but with upgraded global positioning systems.

also @ Posted by: Johnycomelately | Dec 14 2022 20:54 utc | 159
… and others
the drone manufacturers offers to construct drone .. yes ? and… ?
they must have done it without blueprints, models, or already produced and testet types
so they must COPY “….their drones after Iranian drone…”
changed their production lines ……
a short search for “russian drones” shows:
– 2007 RSK MiG-Skat
– between 2014 und 2018 8 different russian drones used in donbass
– tests in syria
– 2021 (UAV) „Altius” Weapons testing

Posted by: ghiwen | Dec 15 2022 8:10 utc | 281

Posted by: watcher | Dec 14 2022 23:04 utc | 187
….I wonder how their gas storage is going…..
nothing learned over the Course of the war
links here at moa were provided severel times where you check for yourself

Posted by: ghiwen | Dec 15 2022 8:13 utc | 282

@Opport Knocks 162
China actually leads the West in automotive production because China’s share of global passenger EV sales has gone from 26% in 2015, to 48% in 2021, to 56% in first half of 2022 and is likely to end the year at 60%.26% of China’s vehicle sales are fully electric, and another 35% are plug in hybrids.
Which is why Tesla (with Model Y made in China) is already out-selling the VW Golf in Germany) and BYD is likely to do the same, projecting to sell about 1.2 million EVs into Europe next year.

Posted by: Hermit | Dec 15 2022 8:29 utc | 283

Vintage Red | Dec 15 2022 4:53 utc | 248
Toasters.
I remember them, had them flapping across the screen for a long time. The updated version is probably hypersonic so now I don’t see them when they pass.
***
Hermit | Dec 15 2022 7:37 utc | 268
Fuel. There are supposed to be 2’600 Abrams in “reserve”, (from some dated military journal) but it may be easier to update to the later versions than I thought. The later versions get fatter and much heavier as they get older. )I am not sure about the “waste” line but it obviously expands to take on new dimensions).
Clearly they (Abrams) are going to need a tanker with every tank to keep going, never mind that they can burn “any” fuel. The only other difference is the size of the gun, 102mm for earlier versions, then updated to 120mm. Ammunition?
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Open letter to the new “Pronouns Magazine”.
Dear Marge
I am getting worried about Zele, he is getting progressively paranoiac. After such a good start, by shutting down publications, opposition parties, and non-authorized languages, and taking over the army and airforce. All you will admit, useful for a wanna-be dictator. He is now going after the churches.
Obviously he thinks those golden domes are for real.
At this rate there will be no one left in Ukraine who cares about what he thinks, He will only be able to call on a mythical aerial Patriotic defense to keep him from harm from things that fall out of the sky.
Do you think an urgent visit to his doctor in Miami is called for, or should he go to the one in Tel Aviv?
yours
Mrs Zele…

Posted by: Stonebird | Dec 15 2022 8:32 utc | 284

China actually leads the West in automotive production …
Posted by: Hermit | Dec 15 2022 8:29 utc | 281

Forget about cars. Think industrial robots.

“China is by far the biggest robot market in the world regarding annual sales and the operational stock,” says Milton Guerry, President of the International Federation of Robotics (IFR).

https://ifr.org/ifr-press-releases/news/china-aims-for-global-leadership-in-robotics
Of course with their rare earth supply chain China absolutely dominates in permanent magnet motors that are essential for modern manufacturing.

Posted by: too scents | Dec 15 2022 8:41 utc | 285

Will they Yes-men now change their mind that the war is somehow going great for Russia?
Ukraine hits Donetsk with worst shelling in eight years – mayor
https://swentr.site/russia/568270-donetsk-worst-strike-ukraine/
So the situation is worse than 8 years ago. That should tell all how incompetent or unwilling RUssia is in this war to actually do something that have an impact. Their military is fvcked, there is no other way to put it.

Posted by: Zanon | Dec 15 2022 8:41 utc | 286

I’ve no idea why Russia is preferring to refrain from a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, but the idea that they couldn’t do this if they wanted to, which is the idea pushed with increasing volume by NATO (and its agents on these pages) seems rather ridiculous.
The reason why people respond to trolls is that the trolls can be refuted, for the benefit of the readers of this weblog; if the troll is raising an important point for NATO propaganda, then there is no harm in pointing to its absurdity. The thing is, this shouldn’t be about “winning the Internet” or any of the other childish things which some male weblog readers get up to. Nor does it make any difference for NATO whether people like rk or maobserver or fnord are insulted, and especially it makes no difference to the progress of the war.
I think, however, that virtually everything which comes out of Washington is mendacious propaganda. I’ve been obliged to listen to some of Biden’s speeches lately because the local agents of imperialism, my government, are plugging that ridiculous Washington meeting which exists almost solely to preserve the black Democratic vote. It seems to me that he increasingly sounds like someone aspiring to be Hitler; pushing emotive buttons and trying to overwhelm his audience into supporting mad schemes.
In the larger scheme of things, no matter how much you might dislike Putin (but I couldn’t, and can’t, see any better options for Russia) when you compare the Russian government with the American, or with the ludicrous crowd of ostentatious puppets in Europe and Japan, there’s no doubt which side is most likely to succeed in the long run.

Posted by: MFB | Dec 15 2022 9:04 utc | 287

“Will they Yes-men now change their mind that the war is somehow going great for Russia?
Ukraine hits Donetsk with worst shelling in eight years – mayor”
Nah it’s just proof Kiev is losing badly : they now resort to the ugliest form of terrorism.
For Ukraine now it’s early 1945 : the final blow by the Russian army will come soon.

Posted by: Nanker | Dec 15 2022 9:11 utc | 288

First Russia couldnt advance cause they didnt want to hurt their brothers, then it was because they didnt want to destroy Ukraine, then it was because theyre arent even fighting Ukrainians anymore now its NATO mercenaries, now its because they dont want to provoke NATO intervention. I wonder what the next goal post cope will be, as the Kremlin circlejerk cries “trolls” and makes more shit up about how Russia is killing Ukrainians 10:1 but cant take an inch of land.

Posted by: experienced | Dec 15 2022 9:15 utc | 289

… If they send the ones that convert the 155mm rounds to GPS precision guided, how will that change the artillery imbalance?

Posted by: Bill Smith | Dec 15 2022 0:01 utc | 204

Assuming you mean these: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1156_Precision_Guidance_Kit
Accuracy:
Increment I: < 50 m circular error probable (CEP) Increment II: < 30 m CEP[19] Unit cost: < $10,000[8] https://mil.in.ua/en/news/ukraine-to-receive-new-precision-guided-155-mm-artillery-rounds-from-usa/
“The advantage of PGK is its price – the cost of the kit is less than $20,000, while the Excalibur can cost more than $200,000 (depending on the batch and modification).

The device provides a maximum circular deviation of up to 50 m at a distance of up to 30 km, which is worse than the M982 Excalibur (10 m), but much better than conventional ammunition (273 m). The advantage of PGK is its price – the cost of the kit is less than $20,000, while the Excalibur can cost more than $200,000 (depending on the batch and modification).“
Accuracy becomes independent of range and should allow for quicker setup, fire and scoot.

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 15 2022 9:20 utc | 290

Caveat: I have no military experience … never even shot a gun. I have NO war-expertise whatsoever. So be kind to me even though this is probably a stupid question …
I can’t find Artemivsk/Bakmut on the maps available on Google images: as far as I can tell, alternative spellings include Bakmut, Bakmout, Bakhmut, Bakhmout. Both Google French and English have articles on Bahkmout which describe it as a little city in one of the four provinces returned to Russia. Assuming this is correct, why is this such an important town to NATO? If it is so small it doesn’t make the maps, why is it strategic? Is there something underground? Something above ground and new? As far as I can tell, not much goes on in this town. So why would NATO be willing to fall on its sword over some piddly town inside the border of now-Russian Donetsk?

Posted by: KR | Dec 15 2022 9:27 utc | 291

uncle tungsten | Dec 15 2022 1:00 utc | 212
“I can see there will be much mirth in the Russian HQ as to how, when where to strike. The Aussies will be making bets on it.
After the NS2 pipeline trick, GUKUSA needs a lesson. I’ll shout the bar either way. Place your bets ladies and gentlemen (and others) ;)”

I’d bet that if the US were to place a Patriot battery right in the middle of the biggest, flattest, most unobstructed field and man it with US troops openly wearing US uniforms and get to business with it, Putin would forbid striking it.
Pete Jones | Dec 15 2022 4:21 utc | 246
“I’m always aware that we don’t know the actual target of public comments. When Russia says it will target Patriot missiles if they are deployed, does it really mean it will target the NATO personnel who will be operating them?”
They can strike it as long as the NATO personnel are in disguise as Ukrainians or “mercenaries”. That’s part of the LBJ-style pseudo-warfighting game. As for striking unequivocal NATO targets, as Putin implicitly said the Russians would do way back when he promulgated his farcical “red line” against NATO intervention (after all that’s ensued it’s hard to think back to the day anyone took that seriously), one can only hope but I’ll believe it when I see it.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Dec 15 2022 9:32 utc | 292

Posted by: Anne B | Dec 15 2022 1:26 utc | 217
It was gold-mercury amalgam at one point but advances in transplant surgery have shifted the value proposition for the strangely affiliated disciples of Josef Mengele

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 15 2022 9:33 utc | 293

Posted by: Simon | Dec 14 2022 23:18 utc | 192
There is more to a military force than weapons. Ukraine is losing their trained and experienced officer corp. You don’t take a 60 year old conscripted variety store clerk give him a crash course in counter terrorism warfare teach in a few Maori war dances for moral then put him in charge of a combined arms maneuver brigade … and backyard auto mechanics can’t repair and maintain NATO missile systems and tanks especially when they don’t have electricity to run welders and machine tools.
Ukraine has already been effectively demilitarized … those fancy western artillery and missile systems are operated by western “volunteers”and maintenance is done in Poland and Germany. It’ll be a long time before any Ukranians are trained to operate Abrams and Leopard tanks so more NATO “volunteers” will be needed. Russia is now essentially fighting a NATO armed, led and increasingly manned force.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Dec 15 2022 9:41 utc | 294

Poles are running to Germany to escape from the 200k mobilization. What do you think they need 200k for? Ukr or Belarus?

Posted by: rk | Dec 15 2022 9:42 utc | 295

Posted by: KR | Dec 15 2022 9:27 utc | 289
As far as I can tell, it’s an important transportation hub. Big Serge posted a simplified picture on his Twitter feed a couple days ago showing the road network in Donbass, and this town is one of two key lynch pins between the Russians and Kramatorsk-Slaviansk which are the last defensive line Ukraine has in Donbass. Mercouris has been saying if Bahkmuk falls, it will be like the situation with Lysychansk and its twin city of Sievierodonetsk, where the fall of another city whose name I forget enabled the Russians to take those two cities.
After Bahkmuk falls, Kramatorsk and Slaviansk will be in a worse position to defend. Those are the last main Ukrainian defense line and it will be facing the full power of the upgraded Russian military. No one knows how long it will take for Russia to control those two. But once that is done, Donbass will essentially be under the full control of Russia. Ukraine forces will probably be forced to fall back to the other side of the Dnieper River – assuming Russia lets them.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 15 2022 10:00 utc | 296

KR | Dec 15 2022 9:27 utc | 289
“……can’t find Artemivsk/Bakmut on the maps available on Google images:”
Here’s a tweet with a map. And, no, Bahkmut is not a “small village”.
https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1602997034751066112
Here’s a tweet showing the significance of Bahkmut….. it’s a hub,… control here will bring a major change in the control of transport (military supplies) to eastern Ukraine (nova Russia).
https://twitter.com/witte_sergei/status/1602715062187065345
There’s Military Summary channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUnc496-PPmFZVKlYxUnToA
DIma is a well meaning amateur, dont be impressed by the words “military” and “summary”
And the top tier of analysis and expertise is Brian Berletic at New Atlas
https://www.youtube.com/c/TheNewAtlas/community

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 15 2022 10:05 utc | 297

The poles are trying to force Russia to send more troops to Belarus, the bankers in the west won’t let the Poles take everything they are waiting to confiscate when Ukraine can’t pay the debts.
It’s a no loss game for the wealthy west. Putin is leaving the Odessa carrot hoping they are sensible enough to want a return on the investment.

Posted by: OohCanada | Dec 15 2022 10:07 utc | 298

We are not opposed by the Ukrainian army »: Kadyrov’s assistant Apti Alaudinov in an interview with RT — on the fight against NATO and the course of the SVO
During the special operation, Russia is fighting NATO, and not Ukraine, said Assistant to the Head of Chechnya and Special Forces Commander « Akhmat » Apti Alaudinov in an interview with RT Arabic military commander Sargon Haday. According to him, without the support of the United States and Europe, Ukrainian armed groups will not last a day against the Russian armed forces. He also pointed out that the Russian military is much better physically and psychologically prepared for warfare than militants from Western countries.
— According to intelligence, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, after the withdrawal of Russian troops from Kherson, transfer their forces and equipment to this direction. How serious is this now?
— What they could transfer to our site, they have already thrown. I want to note: we felt that a very large amount of technology and manpower was thrown. And, of course, most of this technique and manpower have already been destroyed by us. For literally three weeks, we destroyed about 50 tanks and the same amount of armored vehicles.
That is, we got the following picture: the transfer by Ukrainian formations of their manpower and equipment to our — site for us, on the contrary, it benefited. Because we have an active opportunity to destroy the maximum amount of this all. Today we clearly orient ourselves where the enemy has what. For ourselves, we are ready to reflect any counteroffensive action. But we do not let the enemy make decisions and move in our direction, because daily we ourselves move forward.
— We hear very often about foreign mercenaries — Poles, Americans, British and others. Is there any data on numbers? And anyway, what are they doing here — unlike the APU?
— It is necessary to tell the truth about foreign mercenaries.
I believe that there are no foreign mercenaries on our site. What is called « foreign mercenaries », — are representatives of the troops, representatives of the NATO bloc states that are opposed to Russia today.
Because we must understand that the high-precision equipment that is transferred by the same NATO bloc here so that it is used by Ukrainian units against Russia cannot be studied in one day.
The equipment is being transferred, and along with the equipment, specialists who are representatives of the NATO bloc troops are transferred. Therefore, there is already a clear picture for us. We understand that both Ukrainian formations and the NATO bloc itself can do absolutely nothing to oppose our formations and units. Yes, all this economy was abandoned against us with all these specialists who spoke different languages of the world. But they were calmly ground by us and sent mostly from here by cargo 200, and the remaining — cargo 300. It doesn’t matter to us what nationality the enemy is opposed to us. Most importantly, we clearly know for ourselves what we should do with it.
— So we are fighting with NATO, in fact?
— The fact that we are fighting with the NATO bloc probably does not even need to be explained to anyone. Because any sane person, if he looks at the situation that is happening today, should perfectly understand that the same, say, HIMARS shelling… After all, the HIMARS rocket itself — is just an ordinary piece of iron. But if it is adjusted precisely by GPS ( navigation systems that are the property of America ), then this is already a weapon that is high-precision. All these shelling, all these terrorist acts, all these technical innovations — this is all the use of the forces and means of the NATO bloc.
— How is this special operation different from classical wars? We see very large batteries using artillery. You just mentioned GPS, and there are also drones.
— There has never been such an intensity of artillery duel. There have never been such a number of shells fired at one site of the territory. Naturally, it should be noted the use of a very large number of high-tech tools.
In fact, we understand that if earlier humanity started with copies, bows and arrows, today the role of man is slowly no longer important. Yes, we need a drone operator, yes, we need a person who knows how to use high-tech weapons. But man himself directly at the forefront is already of minimal importance.
— It’s almost mid-December, winter. Very different opinions about the activity of hostilities. Someone says: « We are waiting for frosts ». Someone says: « No, we are waiting for spring ». What is the role of the weather in hostilities?
— For us, as specialists, it does not matter what the weather is on the street. We are ready to fight all four seasons — for any dirt, for any frost. Because we are very well equipped. I can note that such equipment, such food, such uniforms for all occasions, as we probably do not have anyone. Therefore, those states that are not ready for such frosts begin to analyze this situation in the format of weather, frost, and dirt. It doesn’t matter to us.
— Are there any difficulties in terms of life, ammunition, weapons? Still, everything is not perfect.
— Everything is not perfect. Everything is perfect and cannot be. Everything will not be perfect, even if there is summer, heat + 40 ° C. The point is not what conditions are given to us by the Almighty. It all lies in how much we ourselves are internally prepared for these situations. And we are ready for any turn of events.
Yes, if you try, say, on a large scale, naturally, tanks, equipment will be stuck, because dirt. But that is the military strategy to calculate the conditions and capabilities of their technology and directly human. Somewhere to sit and cry, that there is dirt on the street, so I can’t go, — this is one picture. Somewhere to sit and cry, which is cold outside, — is the second picture. Another thing is when we predict in advance that there will be a dirt season or a frost season, and we are preparing our units for warfare in the conditions that we expect, we forecast.
— How is coordination between the Allied forces carried out? Between the special forces, the army, the PMC « Wagner », who also work here. The media is talking about disagreements. How can you rate this?
— I would not say that we have any disagreements with anyone at all. We even had a kind of symbiosis with the 2nd Army Corps of the Luhansk People’s Republic: we have already become a single organism. We have been keeping up with each other for a long time.
We have the last one and a half to two months located PMC « Wagner ». These are working guys who are very professional in doing their job. We feel like two very close units. Because they are aimed at working, and we are aimed at working. Each of us is busy with our own business. Which gives a very good result.
It should be noted that a very clear interaction has been established between all departments. This is precisely the result of the fact that we have already completely managed to orient ourselves who is responsible for which site, who can take on what exactly cannot be left to another unit. Therefore, I believe that these issues are already in the past. Even if there were any misunderstandings between some units before, today it is already in the past.
— Is it possible to talk about any promotion dates? At least about the terms of the liberation of LPR and DPR, Zaporozhye, Kherson region, which are already part of the Russian Federation?
— Some people have a habit: if somewhere the enemy comes — everyone rushes into a panic on this side and says: « That’s it, here the opponent went, we can’t stop him! Ay-ah-ah, oh-oh-oh! » No. The enemy will advance — in our direction and we will advance in the direction of the enemy until the fracture itself occurs. A fracture will occur when the enemy’s resources and our resources… At a certain period of time, a clear understanding should come for us, whose resource turned out to be longer, who turned out to be more hardy. Whose resource was better calculated. Who could better develop an additional resource by the time when a certain part of our forces and assets had already waned. These are all the subtleties of — they will ultimately decide which of us will win.
And not that someone there was some kind of piece of land from someone he won off or, as they say, freed. That is not the point. The essence of — which of us is better prepared psychologically.
Psychologically, we are much better prepared because we are ready to go to the end. It doesn’t matter what form this conflict takes: even if it turned into a nuclear war, we are ready to go all the way. But the question is whether Europe is ready to go this way to the end, is America and their armies ready to go all the way, which, if they don’t bring beer on Friday, they sit down and pour tears that they did not bring beer.
Our army — is an army that is tempered so that we can not eat or drink. We can fight this way. We may not eat or drink, but because of this we will not leave our position, we will not run away and cry. But the question is: can Americans and Europeans fight like this? A very specific answer will be. Can not. We know that. Because they are psychologically very weak people.
— What does this conflict mean strategically for the Russian army?
— This is a decisive factor for the state of Russia itself. Today the question is whether the state of Russia will continue on the world stage. Today, fate is decided. When we say « Satanism » and « God’s values »… Note that a very large connection is obtained between Russia directly and God’s values — and Satanism, which today completely absorbed all European states and America.
Today there is a war between good and evil, between the army of God and the army of the devil. Naturally, strategically, we must put the Russian state — and the rest of the states that today go under the flags of LGBT people on the same scale.
So answer yourself. Strategically, — to be or not to be — is the question that today stands before the state of Russia, the Russian army and armed groups. And today we are standing in a position that says: Russia to be! Nothing in this world can break our will to what Russia will be. There will be God’s values. And that army, which follows the paths of Satan, lives according to his commandments, under the flags of LGBT people, — it will lose. I think this is a full answer.
— Is it worth expecting a New Year’s gift in the near future, some surprises?
— I will say so. In order to make New Year’s gifts — we are not Santa Claus. But we do our work, we do it daily.
The leadership of the Russian Ministry of Defense, the leadership of the Russian state and, first of all, the Supreme Commander-in-Chief set the task for us in such a way that we do our work in such a way that our fighters do not die in droves. For us, task number one — saving the lives of our fighters. We have no hurry. Why? Because, I repeat, the army is not opposed to us by the Ukrainian army. The Ukrainian army today — if because of its back to remove America and Europe — is not enough even for one day against us. A total NATO bloc confronts us.
And we must understand that to make some kind of sharp jerk when the NATO bloc confronts us, to get somewhere, to destroy this number of our fighters ( when we know, that we must pull this conflict for the long term and win the endurance ), — we do not need such hasty decisions.
Therefore, in the end there will be one big gift — it will be a victory for Russia. But there is no need to make small gifts at the current stages.

Posted by: Exile | Dec 15 2022 10:36 utc | 299

Oh no, a declaration! Well, that’s that. We had a good run but I guess it’s time to pack up.

Posted by: Skiffer | Dec 15 2022 11:10 utc | 300