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December 06, 2022

U.S. No Longer Supports Fight For Crimea

The U.S. seems to have changed its position with regards to Crimea.

Blinken in August 2022:

Secretary Antony Blinken @SecBlinken - 16:46 UTC · Aug 23, 2022
United States government official

In my remarks to the Crimea Platform Summit, I urged the international community to keep raising the costs and pressure on President Putin and his enablers until all Russian troops leave Ukraine. Crimea is Ukraine. That was our position in 2014, and it remains in 2022.
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Same dude, yesterday:

Secretary Antony J. Blinken With Editor in Chief Matt Murray At The Wall Street Journal CEO Council Summit

SECRETARY BLINKEN: Our focus is on continuing to do what we’ve been doing, which is to make sure that Ukraine has in its hands what it needs to defend itself, what it needs to push back against the Russian aggression, to take back territory that’s been seized from it since February 24th, to make sure as well that it has the support economically and on a humanitarian basis to withstand what’s happening in the country every single day. That’s our focus.

"Territory that’s been seized from [Ukraine] since February 24th" obviously does not include Crimea which Russia 'seized' in 2014. This then is a significant shift in the position Blinken had earlier underlined.

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From t.me/UkrainianPolicyMatters/5218

"The Poles Have Filed a Petition to Hold Referendum and Rejoin with Ukrainian Lvov, Wolyn and Ternopol Regions

The two most nationalism-driven countries seem to have a serious misunderstanding regarding the Wolyn, Lvov and Ternopol parts of Ukraine. A significant amount of Poles seek to vote on a nation-wide referendum and retake those once stolen lands while Ukrainians can hardly oppose that initiative. Anyway, the QR-code proved to be authentic - there is in fact a petition which could say more about our near future than politicians claims and denials.

Shall we expect major reconsideration of Ukrainian territories in 2023?"

Posted by: Fentanalyst | Dec 6 2022 18:01 utc | 101

3: alot of the comments on the guardian are piped directly onto the site by GCHQ Cheltenham of MIx in Vauxhall (where Bellendcat lives, apparently), just like most of the twitter or you tube comments (and likes). They bear no relation to reality.

Posted by: Kaiama | Dec 6 2022 13:38 utc | 7


I recall someone in the Bush administration saying something along the lines of " we create our own reality"
It's a sentiment taken to heart ever since.

Posted by: jpc | Dec 6 2022 18:03 utc | 102

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 6 2022 15:06 utc | 37

A little less sneering and a little more earnestness would be in order from you.

Bojo’s sister ,Rachel?, is on record saying Bojo and Ghislaine met in uni ,partied and were friends. She even wrote an article on it.

Binken’s step-dad (by whom Blinken Sec of State was raised ) was Robert Maxwell’s accountant, confidant and family friend and one of the last people to speak to Robert before he died.

All that from the top off my head of things read years ago. We don’t all need, can or even want to search the web for everything we say here. Some things are seen ,read and scrubbed from then net years later (usually to hide it) . The fact it can’t be found doesn’t make it less true… only hidden. In any case, my thanks go out to the other posters who did do the searching for us both.


Opportunity, You are welcome.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 6 2022 18:08 utc | 103

Clare Daly is TOP-NOTCH.

Politicians like her make me feel better about Politics, like there’s some hope.

There are a few out there. Corbyn makes me sad, cause of how they ousted him. Orbàn makes me smile…

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 18:09 utc | 104

@ 100
Prime Minister Viktor Orban opposed the $18 billion deal for Ukraine: “We are not in favor of this because we do not want the European Union to become a community of indebted states"

Apr 14, 2021
BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The European Commission plans to borrow around 150 billion euros annually until 2026 to finance the bloc's unprecedented plan to make its economy greener and more digitalised, making it the biggest debt issuer in euros, the Commission said on Wednesday. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 6 2022 18:12 utc | 105

Posted by: Tom_12 | Dec 6 2022 17:57 utc | 98

Tom

u really wanna dig into Beardon...in my view another Tesla

As you are probably aware...its what they dont tell you.

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 18:13 utc | 106

It's too late. There is no way Donbas can't return to Ukraine. On humanitarian considerations alone, turning over the population of Donbas (actually all territories east of Dneiper) to Nazi rule is handing them over for genocide. RoW shouldn't allow that to happen, nor should even Lucifer's elfs such as USA/UK/Poland. Then there is question of accounting for war crimes, in Odessa especially.

The west was asked in December 2021 to make a decision. They arrogantly passed. Now it's too late for all that

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Dec 6 2022 18:13 utc | 107

One wonders: "Attack triggers curfew for county in US’ North Carolina":

Residents of a central North Carolina county faced a second night of freezing weather without power on Sunday after vandals opened fire on two electric substations in what authorities called a “targeted attack.”...

About 64 percent of Moore County’s electric customers remained without power on Sunday night in the largely rural area about 90 miles (145 kilometers) east of Charlotte, according to tracking site poweroutage.us.

Interesting use of the term "vandals" as the attack is later described as "targeted" not "random".

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 6 2022 18:17 utc | 108

@ Don Bacon

And then EU fatheads preach about democracy and sovereignty. LMAO. Pure Orwell.

People bitched about Trump lying all the time. But at least his BS was obvious clownery, not like the buttoned-up pilpul and torturedly obscure BS of the « Liberals ».

IMO we just gotta call them out on their crap, and say the Truth, like Clare Daly and Sergei Lavrov.

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 18:21 utc | 109

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 6 2022 18:08 utc | 103

"Bojo’s sister ,Rachel?"...........thatsa very jewish name

Bible-bashers will recognize that instantly. (Torah)

Sometimes its in the detail.

but ofcourse...we,re nice people and wouldnt mention kol nidre.

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 18:22 utc | 110

@ harryash

There’s a lot of things we can’t mention, cause the truth is often « antisemitic ».

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 18:29 utc | 111

Marc @ 111

I'll add to that. Both Sam Pisar and Robert Maxwell had Holocaust stories that completely defied belief.

Someone above noted Sam Pisar as Maxwell's accountant. No. Pisar was Maxwell's attorney. And a superstar attorney. Of course Maxwell was stealing all money that was not tied down so I would expect the lawyer whose job was to get him off accounted for a good part of the haul.

Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 6 2022 18:38 utc | 112

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 18:29 utc | 111

Try Prague cemetery.

I made a habit of visiting old church grave sites for a while.

curious but real history sometimes can be found there.

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 18:41 utc | 113

@ Don Bacon

Hah ! Kinda reminds me of when Browder said Magnitsky was his lawyer, when he was actually his accountant, in Browder’s scheme to plunder Russia in the 90’s.

LIARS, portraying themselves as Victims, stealing a bunch of money. Same old story.

It reminds me of a song my Mum likes :

« By the river of Babylon, where we sat down, counting our loot, that we stole from Babylon… »

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 18:46 utc | 114

@ oldhippie - sorry, I meant @ you

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 18:51 utc | 115

@ harryash

Please tell me more

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 18:56 utc | 116

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 15:44 utc | 52

Racist, sexist whatever. You're definitely a piece of shit, no matter what. Please crawl back into whatever sewer you came out of.

Posted by: Caveman | Dec 6 2022 18:58 utc | 117

@ Caveman

You’re rude, and give cavemen a bad name. Maybe you should heed your own advice.

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 19:00 utc | 118

Can Anyone Explain Why Russia Can't END Avdiivka?

The DPR, mainly Donetsk, is being relentlessly shelled by the AFU from Avdiivka, and it seems like the battle for Avdiivka has been going on for an eternity. Can anyone explain why Russia can't drop leaflets advising the remaining civilians to get out within two days else be destroyed by Russia's version of MOAB?

If Russia, after all this time, can't put an end to the daily shelling of the DPR from Avdiivka, I really don't see how they can win this war in the near future as predicted by both Colonel Macgregor and Scott Ritter. Maybe they are the ones who are full of it...I'm really beginning to wonder.

Posted by: OdessaConnected | Dec 6 2022 19:00 utc | 119

Nationality of Crimean residents in % by year:
Census Crimean Russians Ukrainians Others
Tatars

1897 35.6 33.1 11.8 19.5
1926 25.3 42.7 11.0 21.0
1939 19.4 49.6 13.7 17.3
1959 0.0 71.4 22.3 6.3
1979 0.3 68.4 25.6 5.7
1989 1.6 67.1 25.8 5.5
2001 10.3 60.7 24.1 4.9
2014 10.6 67.9 15.7 5.8
Posted by: S | Dec 6 2022 17:17 utc | 85
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State Native American (Total) Indian (%)

Wyoming 20,4 3.52%
Wisconsin 93,28 1.57%
West Virginia 13,391 0.75%
Washington 223,318 2.83%
Virginia 89,497 1.02%
Vermont 8,096 1.25%
Utah 56,640 1.68%
Texas 370,697 1.24%
Tennessee 62,889 0.90%
South Dakota 91,221 10.12%
South Carolina 48,904 0.94%
Rhode Island 13,851 1.25%
Pennsylvania 92,952 0.71%
Oregon 130,446 3.02%
Oklahoma 535,675 13.39%
Ohio 99,662 0.84%
North Dakota 50,939 6.36%
North Carolina 208,642 1.96%
New York 207,027 1.02%
New Mexico 229,071 10.76%
New Jersey 64,849 0.69%
New Hampshire 10,734 0.77%
Nevada 67,377 2.12%
Nebraska 33,736 1.70%
Montana 87,563 7.94%
Missouri 82,267 1.33%
Mississippi 24,230 0.82%
Minnesota 110,783 1.91%
Michigan 148,080 1.46%
Massachusetts 52,168 0.73%
Maryland 64,146 1.03%
Maine 23,349 1.71%
Louisiana 60,705 1.30%
Kentucky 32,270 0.71%
Kansas 62,955 2.13%
Iowa 28,277 0.88%
Indiana 52,448 0.77%
Illinois 104,386 0.81%
Idaho 43,642 2.30%
Hawaii 32,391 2.20%
Georgia 107,995 0.99%
Florida 178,120 0.81%
Delaware 9,810 0.97%
Connecticut 35,973 1.00%
Colorado 125,039 2.11%
California 806,874 2.02%
Arkansas 61,280 2.02%
Arizona 405,281 5.55%
Alaska 146,557 19.86%
Alabama 61,655 1.22%

Native American population before 1492: Best estimate is between 50 and 112 million.
Population of non-Native Americans today 332,403,650.
U.S. Census Bureau 2022: Native American (Indigenous population) is: 6,790,000 (about 2,1%).

Posted by: Ed | Dec 6 2022 19:02 utc | 120

Posted by: Caveman | Dec 6 2022 18:58 utc | 117

I see Ive gotta fan-club

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 19:04 utc | 121

@ harryash

I think you mean fag club LMAO

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 19:05 utc | 122

From Strelkovs tg channel:

And now also briefly on the impressions of the trip, which was inconclusive, but not useless (since my eyes and ears remained with me, and my head is also still working).

Naturally, I intend to keep the vast majority of my impressions and conclusions to myself. To, so to speak, "not to discredit". Positive impressions - I will share in the upcoming (hopefully) video conferences. But there are not too many of them - in relation to the negative ones.

And now I will only note that the basis of all our "increasing victories" on the fronts and directions of the NMD is the deepest crisis of strategic planning. Simply put, the troops are fighting "by inertia", not having the slightest idea of the ultimate strategic goals of the current military campaign and only guessing about the vague plans of the command for such grandiose senseless gestures as the construction of a completely insane in uselessness (but wildly expensive in terms of execution cost) Surovikin Lines.

In most parts of the RF Armed Forces, soldiers and officers do not understand: for what, for what and for what purposes they are fighting in general. For them, a mystery - what is the condition for victory or just a condition for ending the war? And the authorities of the Russian Federation are not able to explain this to them, since setting a clear goal for the NWO means "limiting room for maneuver" - that is, losing the opportunity to declare the goals of the NWO as achieved at any moment that the Kremlin leaders consider convenient. (For the thousand and first time, I remind you that the passionately desired “reconciliation with partners,” for which many steps are being taken to this day that demoralize society and the army, is unattainable in principle, but the Kremlin and Staraya Square do not want to believe in it).
Such sentiments specifically in the troops lead to apathy. Apathy, on the other hand, leads to a drop in morale and the fulfillment of the tasks set "for show" and "slip of the sleeves", without a real interest in their successful result. So - in the army of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (and parts of the Armed Forces of the LDNR, although there the fighters have much more motivation) apathy prevails.

The absence of a clear military-political strategy does not allow the military to develop tactics that will contribute to its implementation. In the meantime - "on a whim" - the RF Armed Forces are preparing for a protracted positional war, building long-term structures along the entire front in the style of "a la the Mannerheim Line" (it does not pull on the "Maginot Line"). The fact that following the strategy of a protracted war is suicide for the Russian Federation (and its authorities and elites, too, by the way) - I wrote back in 2014, but I said (more than once or twice) - from the very beginning of the current campaign.

Therefore, watching how the enemy slowly (and without encountering any opposition) implements his own strategic tasks with the complete passivity of the military and political authorities of the Russian Federation, I do not expect anything good at the front in the coming weeks.

And, yes, - the so-called. "Ukraine" will NOT freeze in winter, will NOT rebel and will NOT fight worse. Vice versa. Its soldiers, who have already believed in their strength as a result of the autumn victories of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and are fully supported by NATO, will only fight harder and harder against the "Muscovites", avenging the hardships that their relatives and friends in the rear are forced to bear. And they will be met only by apathetic performance of duty, behind which many fighters and commanders have long been looming the unresolved question: "What are we doing here, if Moscow is most concerned with the implementation of" grain deals ", the unhindered pumping of ammonia through Odessa and the" price ceiling " on gas and oil supplied to numerous Western partners?“

HEY CHEERLEADERS!

I remember posting similar thoughts here a couple of weeks ago.

I was met with ridicule, about how everyone knew exactly what the war aims were, morale sky high etc.

“Denazification” and “Demilitarisation” are not war aims, and you are an idiot if you believe they are.

A war aim would be something like “Unconditional surrender of enemy forces”.

Of course, it is an “SMO”…

Putin is a useless neoliberal, and everyone here knows it, but can’t admit it.

Posted by: Moaobserver | Dec 6 2022 19:06 utc | 123

People who focus on Ukraine miss the big picture. The problem is and never was Ukraine or its people. The problem lies with NATO. Ukraine war is a symptom of much greater problem. Today Ukraine, tomorrow Taiwan, and perhaps Iran or North Korea. Perhaps Israel will finally goad US into attacking Iran. I hope it will come to this
The point is until NATO is disbanded and imperialism ends there will be no peace. Humanity will continue to be under the threat of WW III, whichever way it comes.

Also as for Russia no military is perfect. There are screw ups in US. Few years back Houthi rebels attacked Saudi Oil installations and American defense systems did not detect attack in time. And we're overwhelmed. American refused to believe this is possible. Also Russia as well as China have been put in impossible position with NATO. No matter how they act there is a risk of escalation and nuclear war. Want to help Westerners? Revolt and remove warmongers from power. Please do not wait until Russia and China liberate the world. The warmongers simply are not giving up and they will do anything to stay in power.

Also when missile landed in Poland NATO diplomats complained about Ukrainians lying and credibility. Perhaps these diplomats should reflect on who they are serving. NATO lies often to get into wars. Also what did you expect to happen? Provoking and enabling a war and blocking negotiations and now NATO is worried about World War? Last year when hysteria was first raised about Russian invasion of Ukraine many in Ukrainian government maintained they see no signs of it for long time.


Posted by: anonymous | Dec 6 2022 19:09 utc | 124

US pulls out of the war against Russia and UK steps up provocations to try and draw US back in.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 6 2022 19:11 utc | 125

Correction: I hope Iran will not be attacked by US should Israel try to goad and provoke the war.

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 6 2022 19:12 utc | 126

@ karlof1 | Dec 6 2022 17:30 utc | 93

Seems to be a grab-bag of antilibertarian policies.

Posted by: John Kennard | Dec 6 2022 19:12 utc | 127

Marc
Look i aint no jesus-freak..in fact quite the opposite...
but people revere their grave-sites...and spend time and recollection there.
essentially they dont lie.
because respect is what its all about.
do people return to spit on a grave...i doubt it.
so its the one area that you getta story.
True or false..its what they believe.
Like David Irving said...go back to the source.
My knowledge is justa mish-mash of what i,ve read and seen and experienced
Can you imagine what it must be like in the bottom of Ukrainian trench full of freezing water and shit...n ur only eighteen.
If you survive that try telling ur disco friends u drank and did a bit of cocaine with.....who never went there.
u cant

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 19:19 utc | 128

@Don Bacon #46

"The deal for the next-generation helicopter is worth up to $1.3 billion and is set to replace roughly 2,000 Black Hawk utility helicopters and around 1,200 Apache attack helicopters around 2030"

"Up to"? Really? The target price for the V-280 is $43,000,000 each. So if they replace 3,200 existing aircraft with the V-280 that alone will be $138 billion. Might be some service and training contracts on top of that, and maybe some overruns could conceivably happen.

Posted by: Billb | Dec 6 2022 19:20 utc | 129

Posted by: Moaobserver | Dec 6 2022 19:06 utc | 123

I'm very, very grateful to Russia for taking an effective stand against Western hegemony and have no reason to believe that I have a better understanding of how to go about that in the complex world environment that they're operating in. As far as I can tell blowhards like you aren't contributing squat to this effort, so as far as I'm concerned you're just uninteresting noise with no apparently significant insights (let alone substantiated information) to offer.

Have a nice day.

Posted by: StirThePot | Dec 6 2022 19:28 utc | 130

@ harryash

I agree with all of that. You’re in good company here. Have an icy cold beer, on me.

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 19:29 utc | 131

attention b!

please get rid of this poster.. - @ Caveman | Dec 6 2022 18:58 utc | 117

@ harryash | Dec 6 2022 17:49 utc | 96

thanks... never been to aussieland... i agree with you...

@ Peter AU1 | Dec 6 2022 19:11 utc | 125

you think that is happening here? maybe.. what about dissension in the ranks of the usa oligarchy?

Posted by: james | Dec 6 2022 19:31 utc | 132

@ b - I agree with James.

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 19:35 utc | 133

Regarding Strelkov's telegram post, yeah, I encountered a cut'n'paste of that this morning over on r/CredulousDefence. It seems like an accurate assessment of the situation to me. I think MacGregor's out-to-lunch with his expectation of some decisive Russian offensive this winter.

Posted by: Mike314159 | Dec 6 2022 19:37 utc | 134

Posted by: Zed | Dec 6 2022 13:47 utc | 10

Thanks for the post, I had to wikipedia Sladkov and I'm better off for the experience! He seems a credible critic. However, whenever I read of such civilian casualties I wonder why the flip are these people still living in a war zone. As far as I know Russia offers very adequate areas of sanctuary for civilians.

And what kind of fool stayed in Kherson when the Russians left?

Posted by: tucenz | Dec 6 2022 19:37 utc | 135

Neofeudalfuture | Dec 6 2022 16:31 utc | 66

Is this satire ?

If not you're nucking futs.

Posted by: Klaatu | Dec 6 2022 19:37 utc | 136

Apologies to Harry. I don't know what came over me. Seeing myself out.

Posted by: Caveman | Dec 6 2022 19:41 utc | 137

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 6 2022 15:06 utc | 37

A little less sneering and a little more earnestness would be in order from you.

Bojo’s sister ,Rachel?, is on record saying Bojo and Ghislaine met in uni ,partied and were friends. She even wrote an article on it.

The fact it can’t be found doesn’t make it less true… only hidden. In any case, my thanks go out to the other posters who did do the searching for us both.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 6 2022 18:08 utc | 103

Thanks for the condescending lecture. I found the Rachel Johnson article...

It’s hard not to feel a batsqueak of pity for Ghislaine Maxwell — 500 days and counting in solitary confinement. I intersected briefly with her at Oxford. As a fresher I wandered into Balliol JCR one day in search of its subsidised breakfast granola-and-Nescafé offering and found a shiny glamazon with naughty eyes holding court astride a table, a high-heeled boot resting on my brother Boris’s thigh. She gave me a pitying glance but I did manage to snag an invite to her party in Headington Hill Hall — even though I wasn’t in the same college as her and Boris. I have a memory of her father, Bob, coming out in a towelling robe and telling us all to go home.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/it-s-hard-not-to-pity-ghislaine-maxwell/

Like your original comment, it is high on innuendo, light on facts. Leaving the malicious or gullible to fill in the gaps. Typical British tabloid trash.

Nothing anywhere to support your original assertion:
"He was a child playmate of Ghislaine Maxwell , as was Ex Brit - PM Bojo Johnson"


Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 6 2022 19:43 utc | 138


Weapons from Ukraina sipping into Africa
https://punchng.com/russia-ukraine-war-weapons-coming-into-lake-chad-buhari/

Posted by: PH | Dec 6 2022 19:44 utc | 139

harryash | Dec 6 2022 17:49 utc | 96

Agree with every word.

Australia can legitimately be called the 51st state of the USA. No other country has joined them in every war the US prosecuted after 1945...every single one. The only country !

Such is life :(

Posted by: Klaatu | Dec 6 2022 19:46 utc | 140

Everybody is "Fuck Hungary". Seriously.

Posted by: Fnord73 | Dec 6 2022 19:48 utc | 141

@ Caveman

actually, I rescind my « vote » for you leaving, as you’re seeming more amenable.

Have an icy beer, on me. Dialectics is a wonderful but mostly unfamiliar thing to us, unfortunately.

You’re in good company here. Just cozy up and stay amenable…

This is a wonderful community here.

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 19:49 utc | 142

karlof1 @ 108

One wonders: "Attack triggers curfew for county in US’ North Carolina"... Interesting use of the term "vandals" as the attack is later described as "targeted" not "random".

So you're thinking a Russian and/or Killnet cyber attack? Picked a USA bumfuck town as a message, "It could just as easily be LA or Houston"? Hmm... This hybrid war thing is going to get weird, hope it doesn't go on for 10-20ys like Michael Hudson thinks, that would be a lot of compounded weirdness.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Dec 6 2022 19:50 utc | 143

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 19:49 utc | 142

Thanks Marc, this is a great community, everyone has much to offer, even people I disagree with. My apologies again, @harryash. I think I am just very on edge, much like everyone else, I just don't have the tools to deal with it. Back to lurking and reading I go until I can control myself. A round for the bar before I go. You're all great and I'm sorry for being a shitbag.

Posted by: Caveman | Dec 6 2022 19:53 utc | 144

Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 6 2022 18:38 utc | 112

Yes, you were right, attorney not accountant for Maxwell Senior.

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 18:22 utc | 110

Well the Johnsons are part -Jewish and Turkish. That is documented. As was ExPm Cameron (Jewish) and others. Scratch a Member of the British Elite and you will have some Jewish ancestry , and that was known and commented on by the early 1900s. Winston Churchill, via his American mother!

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 6 2022 19:53 utc | 145

james | Dec 6 2022 19:31 utc | 132

London vs New York and Washington. Head of state for Canada Australia and NZ is the monarch of England. Here in Aus it is interest to watch the politicians and media when London and US differ. As for the US, watching the flow of propaganda in the MSM, the nationalists that want to attack China seem to have had a win over the London loyalists and dedicated Russia haters. Canada well stocked with Ukraine nazi's will be up to its ears in this. All that remains to be seen is how far the London centric anglo world will go to pull the US back into the fight against Russia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 6 2022 19:53 utc | 146

It could have been a misspeak (and if and when it suits he'll say it was) but I'm inclined to doubt it. Those chaps know that every word they utter and every gesture of their hands and eyes will ve pored over and analysed by foreign intelligence services. Biden made a comment recently, then Avril Haynes and now this chappie. You know what they say about once being happenstance, twice coincidence and trice being enemy action? Of course, I'm not convinced that Russia should get into talks with them just yet. I don't think the dough has risen sufficiently. It needs another couple if months imo.

Posted by: Guy L'Estrange | Dec 6 2022 19:54 utc | 147

Posted by: Moaobserver | Dec 6 2022 19:06 utc | 123

That post by Strelkov seems like an accurate picture to me. I have long held the belief that Russia was tricked/goaded to have the SMO and when they encountered resistance far in excess of what they expected, motivation issues in the Army start to develop since the original goals are became unattainable.

The situation is one where a clear message to the troops is absent.

The Ukrainian side on the other hand has a very large carrot to chase, sharp in focus and screaming to the troops from every possible direction.

Maybe this is the natural way of things when one is invading, I dont know.

Posted by: alek_a | Dec 6 2022 19:55 utc | 148

Rejoice, Ukraine supporters! Blinken's shift in narrative is surely the result of all the UAF "winning" you folks have been talking about. Victory is at hand.

Posted by: LastLaugh | Dec 6 2022 19:59 utc | 149

@ Caveman

I’m over it, probably most people here too. Last night I really wanted to punch… another member here, in the face, as I felt they were being really rude. Fortunately my buddies here talked me out of it. Plus, it’s hard to punch somebody in the face over the internet.

Yeah some issues, and some people, really grind our gears. This is our Human mess.

It reminds me of that Amerindian legend, whose moral was : « which wolf do we feed ? »

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 20:00 utc | 150

Ukraine is a headache and a cancer on this world, would be better to give central + north Ukraine to Belarus , Galicia to Poland ( they are already preparing to take it anyway, why fight for that hellhole?) and 1 oblast to Hungary/Romania, Russia keeps all east + south. Since Ukrainians will be leaving for Europe in the winter ( no electricity etc...) block their return by ending Ukraine and putting a border with Poland , would make it easier to take big cities since they would be mostly empty.

Posted by: Phariah | Dec 6 2022 20:03 utc | 151

"Australia and the United States stand for the international rules-based order where countries are free to chart their courses, and disputes are resolved peacefully and free from coercion, [Austin] said."
. . .But opinions may differ in Korea, Somalia, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq. . .the list goes on.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 6 2022 16:50 utc | 78

Thank you, Don; that was very insightful. Of course, the whole world had the opportunity to see this "international rules-based order" concept play out in January 2022 when President Putin offered Washington (President Biden) a written offer for security guarantees in Europe – including no further admissions to NATO.

The Biden administration has stated repeatedly that the demand to halt further NATO expansion is a non-starter, that the so-called “open door” policy of admitting to the alliance any aspirant that meets laid-down conditions will not change.

So, Biden and NATO just could not, and would not, consider anyway to satisfy Russia's security concerns. Well, today, after 10 months of war, we see the consequence of Biden's decision. The international rules-based order has killed over 150,000 soldiers, killed yet an unknown number of civilians, destroyed homes and businesses, and cost Ukraine a vast amount of its most profitable territory. Way to go Biden, tip of the hat to the NATO bloc countries, hang in there Australia, you too can be part of the modern Frankenstein new world order.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 6 2022 20:05 utc | 152

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 19:49 utc | 142

yep I,m onboard for that...no harm done.

the whole point of this blog is to air opinions freely without rancour.

look as everyone knows...I aint no jew-lover...but the average jew in
the street i am happy to trade opinions with over a beer.

here,s the thing...its who u are and how u behave that conveys comfort.

If ur english and behave like Azov...ull find no comfort with me...and I,ll make you wear it. ( not physically I,m 77)

theres a lotta bs swamping the thinking processes of young people...
words like racialist..conspiracy theorist, gay,dyke...etc

I am a nationalist...(so that is by definition .. racist)
I am a conspiracy theorist ...yes...tell whoever uses those words to explain themselves...they cant
as for the rest...i dont giva friar tuck who u fck...
but u dont fck kids

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 20:06 utc | 153

Opport Knocks | Dec 6 2022 17:26 utc | 90

I noted that place is always empty as well. I assume these people are being paid but that begs the question... why ?

Posted by: Klaatu | Dec 6 2022 20:08 utc | 154

Regarding the North Carolina power sabotage - learn which US Army unit has its homebase there and you might start connecting the dots

Posted by: Exile | Dec 6 2022 20:09 utc | 155

A massive Russian air force attack on Ukraine's infrastructure started at 20:00 (Moscow time).

Landing of missiles have already been confirmed in Odessa, Nykolayev, Dnepropetrovsk, Lvov, Vinnytsa, Poltava, Zhytomyr, Cherkasy, Kirovograd and Zaporozhye regions.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/23905

One has to wonder how NASAMs or Iris-T is doing. There has been very little actual presented evidence as to attest them functioning effectively. Even the older S-300 system is still superior to Nato systems, and forms the real backbone for air defenses.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 6 2022 20:14 utc | 156

@ harryash

BOOM, that’s what I’m talkin’ about.

Do you know Andrew Anglin ? He’s a political « satirist » I enjoy every day, just like this site.

https://dailystormer.in/

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 20:18 utc | 157

Those chaps know that every word they utter and every gesture of their hands and eyes will ve pored over and analysed by foreign intelligence services. Biden made a comment recently, then Avril Haynes and now this chappie. You know what they say about once being happenstance, twice coincidence and trice being enemy action?

Posted by: Guy L'Estrange | Dec 6 2022 19:54 utc | 147

I agree with you Guy, I think that there is some attempt to negotiate through the media, like playing chess over the phone. If so, what we know is that the US is willing to recognize Crimea as Russian, in return for the four Oblast. Of course, this is out of the question, but it is progress. After the winter offensive the terms should change.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 6 2022 20:20 utc | 158

Exile @ 155

Regarding the North Carolina power sabotage - learn which US Army unit has its homebase there and you might start connecting the dots

That was easy enough to google. Makes a damn lot more sense than that idiotic anti woke drag story. The rainbow hoax, the con that keeps on giving.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Dec 6 2022 20:21 utc | 159

Anonymous | Dec 6 2022 19:12 utc | 126
Israel's military will not prove less of a joke than the rest of NATO's. the military budgets have been shown to be much more a means of fleecing the populace than of serving any military purpose. Israel won't be any different.

no country on earth is quaking over the mighty US/NATO military. can't even fight a "one front war". is France turning off its lights because these mofos know what they are doing? or care? that's the real danger: they don't know what they are doing and they don't care. and these are the worst human trash in the history of ever. the most degraded filth imaginable rules the west, and they aren't planning on doing jailtime.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Dec 6 2022 20:27 utc | 160

@Exile | Dec 6 2022 20:09 utc | 155

Regarding the North Carolina power sabotage - learn which US Army unit has its homebase there and you might start connecting the dots
Is there a version for the less gifted?

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 6 2022 20:27 utc | 161

Harryash said

.I aint no jew-lover

Like minded no jew lover provides link to daily stormer

:(

No hope for humanity but I knew that.

I hope Vlad pushes that fucking button.

Posted by: Klaatu | Dec 6 2022 20:27 utc | 162

Regarding Blinken, white devil speaks with forked tongue. Always did, always will, it's in his nature.

"A scorpion asks a frog to carry him over a river. The frog is afraid of being stung, but the scorpion argues that if it did so, both would sink and the scorpion would drown. The frog then agrees, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When asked why, the scorpion points out that this is its nature."
-Fable of the Scorpion and the Frog

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Dec 6 2022 20:30 utc | 163

@ Klaatu

You’re familiar with that site, or just speaking from what you heard, about it being « antisemitic » ?

Like Dave Chapelle said, and he totally softballed it :

« If it’s negros, it’s a gang. If it’s Italians, it’s the mob. If it’s Jews, it’s a coincidence. »

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 20:32 utc | 164

@152
No more countries to join NATO
Finland and Sweeden
Good job Putin

@156
Major damage to Ukraine power and water. Now we see why Ukraine sent Drones to Moscow military Airport's. Let's hope Ukraine does not lower itself to Putins level and attack civilian infrastructure in Moscow. Merry Christmas.

Posted by: Davy | Dec 6 2022 20:34 utc | 165

Let me add this to my comment at# 158. If the US is trying to negotiate a deal with Russia via the media, all while proclaiming that negotiations must be done with Zelensky (Ukraine) which we all know is bull shit, then the question is why negotiate in such an oblique manner.

I suggest it is to not alert the Nazis that control Zelensky they are NOT part of the negotiations. Clearly, Zelensky's life is in danger should they discover this plot. I could only hope that they read MoA often.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 6 2022 20:35 utc | 166

Thanks for the "vandals" related replies. It should be noted that region of Appalachia has a long history of being anti-authoritarian, so the "vandals" could be just about anyone--maybe even Chechen-Americans. One thing the attack demonstrates is the weakness of such substations to small arms fire. Imagine what would happen if a spree using "surplus" javelins was mounted against similar substations that are spread all over metropolitan areas? And it's entirely within the realm of possibilities that such a spree could occur abetted by Biden's uncontrolled export of arms to Ukraine, which were just as uncontrolled as all the weapons shipped to "moderate rebels" in Syria. I'll admit being surprised that a SWAT van hasn't been blown up yet by one of those "surplus" weapons.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 6 2022 20:35 utc | 167

@ harryash : Racist, sexist whatever. You're definitely a piece of [expletive], no matter what. Please crawl back into whatever sewer you came out of.
Posted by: Caveman | Dec 6 2022 18:58 utc | 117
But then, Apologies to Harry. I don't know what came over me. Seeing myself out.
Posted by: Caveman | Dec 6 2022 19:41 utc | 137

Oh I wouldn't waste apologies if I were you. Your target has been hyperactively spewing so much "jew this jew that" claptrap since it appeared here that you have to wonder hmm, hasbara? More ASite than the ASites, you know.

"Bojo’s sister ,Rachel?"...thatsa very jewish name
Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 18:22 utc | 110

Harry? that's, er, likewise, hey? As for Ash-, that may bring to mind -kenazim? And some well-known I/P placenames -kelon? -torath? -dod?

Posted by: petra | Dec 6 2022 20:38 utc | 168

Isn’t it interesting how :

We can push for uplifting collective blacks, cause that’s progress, but can’t push for uplifting whites, cause that’s racist.

We can push to condemn whites collectively, but we can’t do so with blacks (etc.) cause that’s racist.

Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 20:39 utc | 169

Posted by: petra | Dec 6 2022 20:38 utc | 168

right-on petra...if it rocks ur boat

I,m flattered that u take the time for the abuse...

keep it coming.

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 20:41 utc | 170

rjb1.5 | Dec 6 2022 20:27 utc | 160

The entire Empire elite cohort are incompetent. I look at the littany of mistakes they have made and I see incompetence writ large. No dark conspiracies, no hook nosed evil jew lurking in the corner, no dark cabal of shadowy figures. Just a bunch of incompetent fools.

Posted by: Klaatu | Dec 6 2022 20:41 utc | 171

Strelkov's telegram post is depressing. Sad to hear that still the lesson hasn't been learned and Russian politicians are still cucking. Russia makes it hard to root for them, not for moral or ideological failings but only incompetence.

I can respect the verdun grindset strategy, but at the same time morale is bad. We don't have access to the reports of what's really going on so we're in Plato's cave guessing at shadows- Twitter, telegram reports. Those shadows look pretty bleak. As recently as June a successful Ukrainian counteroffensive seemed unthinkable. They were being shelled to hell and there were reports that their soldiers only received one potato a day for a ration. Very similar to what we're seeing in Donbass again now. Dejavu! Meanwhile, Ukraine continues to advance on the Svatove front. Forget the great winter offensive, was the 300k enough to even stabilize the front? One more gesture of goodwill and I think even some of the most patriotic will give up to despair.

And Russia continues to spend hundreds of missiles against autotransformers, apparently with diminishing returns, while most of the bridges on the Dnieper remain standing.

But again, this is just how it looks from inside Plato's cave. Maybe the verdun strategy is a massive success and we just aren't seeing it. Maybe Ukraine's military will soon reach a breaking point and collapse.

Posted by: catdog | Dec 6 2022 20:44 utc | 172

But notice the place is empty.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 6 2022 17:26 utc | 90

Yes, indeed.

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 6 2022 20:45 utc | 173

The US is a society built on hate. You can roughly divide Americans into three groups: those who hate Russians, those who hate Chinese and the "alternative" who hate Jews. And of course white Americans hate blacks and black Americans hate whites. It's a real shithole country.

However, I do admit I've been Americanized; I hate Americans.

Posted by: Fentanalyst | Dec 6 2022 20:46 utc | 174

"Posted by: Ed | Dec 6 2022 20:35 utc | 166"
There is probably not a hivemind among the US glowies. Some want total war to the last hohol, and some don't care that much. The total war faction is more passionate and get what they want, and we shouldn't be misled if we hear some slightly less enthusiastic rhetoric from the other faction occassionally.

Posted by: catdog | Dec 6 2022 20:48 utc | 175

Ed | Dec 6 2022 20:35 utc | 166

The US Russia deal was done some time ago. The media stuff is to sell the deal to the people. The Sullivan Formula.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 6 2022 20:50 utc | 176

karloff1@108, I was in Phoenix in the 90s. A transformer blew in far northern California and power was out for 8 hours, maybe longer. And you can't just order up one from Amazon.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Dec 6 2022 20:50 utc | 177

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 6 2022 17:30 utc | 92
RSH@1....you totally missunderestimate the Brits.
Cheers M
No one is killing Brits on Brit soil, they could give two fucks no matter how many Ukrainians die for King and Country.

That's an Americanism, Sean. In English it is: "They couldn't give two fucks how many Ukrainians die for King and Country"

Which makes more logical sense. The Americans are not strong on logical sense.

But then again neither are the British when you look at them. They allow their govt to slowly kill them via sanctions that don't even work, they allowed their govt to con them with covid myths and outright lies....


Posted by: abrogard | Dec 6 2022 20:50 utc | 178

@156
Major damage to Ukraine power and water. Now we see why Ukraine sent Drones to Moscow military Airport's. Let's hope Ukraine does not lower itself to Putins level and attack civilian infrastructure in Moscow. Merry Christmas.

Posted by: Davy | Dec 6 2022 20:34 utc | 165

Excuse me Davy Crocket, but don't you mean the US level rather than Putin's level? From WW2 to the present, the US has always made the destruction of infrastructure a part of its war portfolio. To finish off the Japanese war without an actual military invasion, the US dropped two atomic bombs on Japan. So, fuck you, and Merry Christmas.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 6 2022 20:51 utc | 179

Opport Knocks | Dec 6 2022 17:26 utc | 90

I noted that place is always empty as well. I assume these people are being paid but that begs the question... why ?

Posted by: Klaatu | Dec 6 2022 20:08 utc | 154

I assume it is to protect the illusion that the EU is a democratic government.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 6 2022 20:51 utc | 180

Exile | Dec 6 2022 20:09 utc | 155
Ft Bragg? if local media and the army times are to be believed, the base was not affected, though it seems people living off base were.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Dec 6 2022 20:51 utc | 181

The trouble with Strelkov, is any apt points are overshadowed by overwrought exaggerations, ego & personal grievance that's he's not "big league" in Russian politics or military circles.

Then there was that whole debacle in Donbass years ago where he got sacked amidst a lot of recriminations over the loss of an important town.

Be very wary of officers airing their grievances in public. It usually has f**k-all to do with the state of things (good or bad) in the army.

Russia isnt doing as well as the Russophiles say, it isnt doing as badly as the doomers & troll spectrum say.

Ukraine will ultimately lose because its infrastructure is getting smashed, it's economy is moribund and it cannot simply clone new soldiers to replace the ones who are dying in an unfavourable ratio.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Dec 6 2022 20:52 utc | 182

Posted by: petra | Dec 6 2022 20:38 utc | 168

It doesn't make me any better to treat people terribly, no matter whether I agree with them or not. I don't like the anti-Jew stuff at all, but I think better targets for my rage are people with power who espouse it, rather than people on message boards who have come to believe it.

Posted by: Caveman | Dec 6 2022 20:54 utc | 183

I saw a brief blurb on one of the telegram posts about NATO training Ukrainian forces in COIN operations or counterinsurgency operations...which the conflict in the Donbas since 2014 may be defined as. So it usually involves small unit tactics...recce and fighting patrols usually without combined arms support other than as need be as mission requirements. Our JTF2 was there training and doing other things in the Donbas and they are Canada's counter terrorist/ long range patrolling equivalent to the SAS and suspect combined arms training at the battalion level with fighting echelon and support as per combat teams or Russian equivalent Battalion Tactical Group was not a priority. Infiltrating a Frontline held by regular supported combined arms units in small numbers is not effective.... insurgent irregular formations are typically guerilla armies without surveillance radars...thermal observation devices and interlocking fields of fire with flanking and in depth BTGs...with fast air and lots and lots of artillery. I think there is evidence that as the new units rotate out from training in NATO bases...the emphasis has seemed to have changed over to much smaller maneuver elements like reinforced platoons etc.

Posted by: Joe | Dec 6 2022 20:55 utc | 184

Isn’t it interesting how :

We can push for uplifting collective blacks, cause that’s progress, but can’t push for uplifting whites, cause that’s racist.

We can push to condemn whites collectively, but we can’t do so with blacks (etc.) cause that’s racist.
Posted by: Marc | Dec 6 2022 20:39 utc |

I don't often comment, but I must reply to this. We don't need to push for uplifting whites because they have been the dominant race in all spheres for 350 years. Whites already have all the advantages, and that's why it's called White supremacy. I came from a poor white background and thought for years that if I could be successful, then anyone could. However, I have learned that, even though I was poor, I had more advantages than most Black people. I received encouragement from teachers and parents, was offered scholarship money that enabled me to attend college, and easily found good-paying jobs after graduation.

Posted by: CarolynS | Dec 6 2022 20:56 utc | 185

Posted by: petra | Dec 6 2022 20:38 utc | 168

Here, Here.

If that particular poster hangs around i am out of here. He is racist, sexist, antisemitic, homophobic, hostile and insulting to the disabled and also extremely stupid - note his comments on Australia which were too absurd to even bother replying too.

I am pretty sure he is a troll sent to undermine this site. He may of course be simply filled up with QANON garbage, but since I feel that QANON is itself a US Deep state troll, designed to make protesters against the increasingly feudal US society seem debased and stupid, it may be that H** is simply one of their more stupid dupes.

Posted by: watcher | Dec 6 2022 20:58 utc | 186

Klaatu | Dec 6 2022 20:41 utc | 171
the profit motive as the overriding and determining principle of every particle of economic activity is written into every financial contract in this land. every article of law is subject to the profit motive. how hard is that to understand?

but people need jews, freemasons, khazars, rothschilds, etc., etc. to explain this. because of how deep they are. you know you are dealing w/the real deep thinkers, the real revealers of the talmudic rosicrusian mystery babylon behind it all when they start talking about khazars.

"are you now or have you ever been a khazar?" yeah, that sounds like the makings of a fair trial. if a witch hunt is fair. "I don't even know what a khazar is." "Then how can you know if you are not one?" (a la the Crucible, obvs. not accusing you of anything, but there is so much submental activity among commentators. marc, harryasshole, et al)

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Dec 6 2022 21:02 utc | 187

@petra | Dec 6 2022 20:38 utc | 168 It doesn't make me any better to treat people terribly, no matter whether I agree with them or not. I don't like the anti-Jew stuff at all, but I think better targets for my rage are people with power who espouse it, rather than people on message boards who have come to believe it.
Posted by: Caveman | Dec 6 2022 20:54 utc | 183

A mild and sensible reply. I agree with your maxim, but occasionally irritation with the white noise gets the better of my wider horizon. Thank you.

Posted by: petra | Dec 6 2022 21:02 utc | 188

Premarital sex in Indonesia will be punishable by up to a one-year prison sentence
Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 6 2022 17:30 utc | 93

Now every Indonesian who had premarital sex can seek asylum in Germany. /s

Posted by: Passerby | Dec 6 2022 21:07 utc | 189

Thank you B, for sifting through this stuff every day. I couldn't do it. Nice catch there, excellent observation! The whole 2nd Blinken statement seems pretty meek to me. All of it, not just the Crimea aspect.

Let's hope this fresh meekness means something and is telling of the USG's more sober assessment.

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Dec 6 2022 21:07 utc | 190

@179
I think we can all agree Hiroshima was a mistake. To destroy a civilian city is an appalling war crime. Japan's decision to join with the Natsi's was their free choice. When we look at history, how allegiances change war looks even more stupid.

Posted by: Davy Crocket | Dec 6 2022 21:08 utc | 191

Agree with every word.
Australia can legitimately be called the 51st state of the USA. No other country has joined them in every war the US prosecuted after 1945...every single one. The only country !
Such is life :(
Posted by: Klaatu | Dec 6 2022 19:46 utc | 140

The sad truth of Australia was revealed in the Covid years. Australia is a myth, a memory, an illusion.

Note the allusion: 'Such is life'. Tom Collins. For any reader would at once evoke what Australia once was and at the same time give entertainment, education and respite for some hours from this tedious and terrible world we live in today. To my mind the great Australian classic.

:)


Posted by: abrogard | Dec 6 2022 21:08 utc | 192

Moaobserver 123

One man's apathy is another man's patience.

God is with the patient. Has it not occurred to you that Russia has put up with British Great Game hatred for hundreds of years. Now you say Russian soldiers don't know what they are fighting for. They are fighting against centuries of racial prejudice by some low level scum called Anglo saxons who ran out of road in their conquests when they got to LA and are now bored.

Is it inspiring for Russians to have to repeat the same old same old vindictive, childish projectile vomit of prejudice from The West? By definition it is not inspiring to have to fight the same old war,
generation after generation.

A little bit of help is worth a lot of sympathy as my old farming friend used to say. Concerntroll in C minor.

Russia has the capability to annihilate the West , while Blinkens and Nulands and many empireless Brits before them have taken pleasure in poking Russia through the centuries.
There is always an easy way and a hard way.
Capability means the ability to destroy Western Civilisation. The only variable is the exact time it happens.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 6 2022 21:10 utc | 193

From Strelkovs tg channel:
Posted by: Moaobserver | Dec 6 2022 19:06 utc | 123

Yep, while Strelkov has been a deeply controversial character since 2014, often accused of being in the '6th column', his post is entirely factual. In fact, the RF's bewildering lack of any well communicated strategic vision and conduct of the SMO is very reminiscent of the US in the Vietnam War. The US entered Vietnam vastly outnumbered by NLF + NVA forces, but tried to compensate with massive use of air power. For years the US would notoriously report body counts as proof of winning the war. Also, the US claimed 'strategic withdrawals' of survivors from such places as Khe Sanh as victories when they were best described as defeats, with loss of territory. As in Vietnam, the Russian troops fighting with lack of coherent goals can be expected to become demoralised. The very high % of Russian contract soldiers who did not renew their contracts on expiry is additional evidence that the front line forces lack faith in Moscow's leadership.

When one looks at the whole picture, the lack of war crimes trials, the prisoner exchange of the Azov leadership for the useless Viktor Medvedchuk, everything looks like an episode of "Let's Make a Deal". The logical conclusion is that VVP is a frustrated globalist who just wants Russia to be respected and have an equal seat at the inevitable NWO great reset table. Why should anyone fight or die for that?

Posted by: Drifter | Dec 6 2022 21:11 utc | 194

@Davy Crocket | Dec 6 2022 21:08 utc | 191

I think we can all agree Hiroshima was a mistake.
No, it wasn't a 'mistake', it was a crime. The crime was repeated at Nagasaki.

Ukraine isn't a 'mistake' either.

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 6 2022 21:11 utc | 195

Ed | Dec 6 2022 20:35 utc | 166
The US Russia deal was done some time ago. The media stuff is to sell the deal to the people. The Sullivan Formula.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 6 2022 20:50 utc | 176


Perhaps, but I think you are a bit cynical to think that a "deal" has already been reached. If the deal is done, why does the war continue? Apparently, the Nazis haven't been told about "the deal" yet.

On the other hand, my "theory" was just a "what if." It could be that Blinken just misspoke, and there is no back door diplomacy. But if the Nazis are Nazis, there surely can never be an open diplomacy between Russia and Zelensky, and the US can't openly have discussions without causing Zelensky a to get a 38-caliber headache.

Which raises the question about how Zelensky and Washington will break the news to the Nazis if some agreement could be reached (all theoretically of course). They will have to send in troops to rescue Zelensky first or leave him to his fate. My bet is on the latter.



Posted by: Ed | Dec 6 2022 21:13 utc | 196

Anyway getting back to where I was this morning with John heller,
He has brought to my attention this National Crime Agency ….the “unexplained wealth order”
Now I have never heard this one before…it seems that during the investigation of the UWO
Obstacles are presented subtly and quietly that allow the lawyers to raid all parties
extensively such that a conclusion hovers just outside the range of obtainability, yet enjoys the
Idea of expectancy…..
But never gets there.
The active apparition that appears ina wig guiding the court with permission from the Bar has already decided
That there is an error somewhere in 4000 pages of paperwork and bangs the hammer accordingly.
I think this is libertarian freemasonry in action probably to be celebrated later in
The lodge of the Moose
In other words…itsall rigged and theresa club…..n u aint init.

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 21:13 utc | 197

Klaatu @162--

Vlad has no reason to push that button. Russia is winning and there's no sign that the world will be made bereft of Russia, which is his only grounds for using nukes. IMO, Putin is currently very positive. An example I wish was more complete [the English language transcript] is Putin's meeting today with the Head of Delovaya Rossiya Alexei Repik, which is described as the 'All-Russian Public Organization "Business Russia"' on the Kremlin's Russian language page. But there's enough to show the positive direction:

President of Russia Vladimir Putin: Mr Repik, good afternoon,

Head of Delovaya Rossiya Alexei Repik: Good afternoon, Mr President.

Vladimir Putin: Mr Repik, first, I would like to congratulate you on your re-election as Chairman of the Delovaya Rossiya Association. This important association unites our businesspeople working in diverse industries but having the same interests.

But no matter what industry they work in, there is one issue – we discussed it with your colleagues in February – that is always topical and important, especially today. I am referring to investment activity. Shall we start with that?

Alexei Repik: Yes.

Mr President, thank you very much for your congratulations. I am very grateful for your attention.

Indeed, ten months have passed since our forum, our last meeting. Much has changed since then. We have faced very serious challenges related to global turbulence. A host of external factors that came as a complete surprise affected our activities. A number of foreign invested companies have left, but for us, for Delovaya Rossiya this meant new opportunities, new niches.

Our companies and businesspeople got a real opportunity to take a befitting place in our big, attractive market. Those who grabbed this opportunity, who listened to what you repeatedly said: “It’s safer at home,” who placed their bets on their own strength, their own business initiative, they are now creating a team for a new Russian economy, producing competitive products and developing exports. I consider this very important and very efficient....

On March 16, you held a very important meeting. What mattered most was that you determined the principles for responding and regulating this crisis – betting on private businesses, avoiding direct price controls, and reliance on domestic businesspeople. All this worked, and you are now talking about the results of it.

I see the English transcript is now complete, so I don't need to cite anymore of its positive endorsements to Putin's decisions taken soon after the SMO commenced. And as you'll read, Mr. Repik is very bullish on 2023 and beyond.

I find Russia's version of Blair's Public-Private Partnerships very instructive as they illustrate their potential given the strong support of the Public side. In many respects, we are seeing what some articulated as potential Third Way paths that were quickly cast aside by the prevailing Neoliberal Parasites and how they're clearly superior to the old ways. Such hybrid "Mixed" economies of the sort Hudson has long advocated and proudly articulated by China as Socialism with Chinese Characteristics are based on People Centered Development and represent the way of the future.

Yes, NATO and Ukraine are headaches for Putin but have solutions. Bringing the Outlaw US Empire to heel and make it law-abiding for the first time in its history is THE BIG CHALLENGE. Unlike his adversaries, Putin doesn't seek their removal from the planet, which IMO is a very important distinction.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 6 2022 21:14 utc | 198

Klaatu @162--

Vlad has no reason to push that button. Russia is winning and there's no sign that the world will be made bereft of Russia, which is his only grounds for using nukes. IMO, Putin is currently very positive. An example I wish was more complete [the English language transcript] is Putin's meeting today with the Head of Delovaya Rossiya Alexei Repik, which is described as the 'All-Russian Public Organization "Business Russia"' on the Kremlin's Russian language page. But there's enough to show the positive direction:

President of Russia Vladimir Putin: Mr Repik, good afternoon,

Head of Delovaya Rossiya Alexei Repik: Good afternoon, Mr President.

Vladimir Putin: Mr Repik, first, I would like to congratulate you on your re-election as Chairman of the Delovaya Rossiya Association. This important association unites our businesspeople working in diverse industries but having the same interests.

But no matter what industry they work in, there is one issue – we discussed it with your colleagues in February – that is always topical and important, especially today. I am referring to investment activity. Shall we start with that?

Alexei Repik: Yes.

Mr President, thank you very much for your congratulations. I am very grateful for your attention.

Indeed, ten months have passed since our forum, our last meeting. Much has changed since then. We have faced very serious challenges related to global turbulence. A host of external factors that came as a complete surprise affected our activities. A number of foreign invested companies have left, but for us, for Delovaya Rossiya this meant new opportunities, new niches.

Our companies and businesspeople got a real opportunity to take a befitting place in our big, attractive market. Those who grabbed this opportunity, who listened to what you repeatedly said: “It’s safer at home,” who placed their bets on their own strength, their own business initiative, they are now creating a team for a new Russian economy, producing competitive products and developing exports. I consider this very important and very efficient....

On March 16, you held a very important meeting. What mattered most was that you determined the principles for responding and regulating this crisis – betting on private businesses, avoiding direct price controls, and reliance on domestic businesspeople. All this worked, and you are now talking about the results of it.

I see the English transcript is now complete, so I don't need to cite anymore of its positive endorsements to Putin's decisions taken soon after the SMO commenced. And as you'll read, Mr. Repik is very bullish on 2023 and beyond.

I find Russia's version of Blair's Public-Private Partnerships very instructive as they illustrate their potential given the strong support of the Public side. In many respects, we are seeing what some articulated as potential Third Way paths that were quickly cast aside by the prevailing Neoliberal Parasites and how they're clearly superior to the old ways. Such hybrid "Mixed" economies of the sort Hudson has long advocated and proudly articulated by China as Socialism with Chinese Characteristics are based on People Centered Development and represent the way of the future.

Yes, NATO and Ukraine are headaches for Putin but have solutions. Bringing the Outlaw US Empire to heel and make it law-abiding for the first time in its history is THE BIG CHALLENGE. Unlike his adversaries, Putin doesn't seek their removal from the planet, which IMO is a very important distinction.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 6 2022 21:14 utc | 199

The US is a society built on hate. You can roughly divide Americans into three groups: those who hate Russians, those who hate Chinese and the "alternative" who hate Jews. And of course white Americans hate blacks and black Americans hate whites. It's a real shithole country.

However, I do admit I've been Americanized; I hate Americans.

Posted by: Fentanalyst | Dec 6 2022 20:46 utc | 174

Very true I think. I don't want to sound all mystical and religious but I think any society founded on hate and greed must fall. Witness Kiev Ukraine.

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 6 2022 21:18 utc | 200

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