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December 15, 2022
Ukraine – What Its Military Leadership Says

The Economist has interviewed the three Ukrainian leaders who manage the war in Ukraine. It summarizes them in an interpretive writeup. I will use that to extract the important points.

Volodymyr Zelensky and his generals talk to The Economist (Paywalled)

The writeup is of course full of propaganda but one can still glean some information from it.

The first interview (transcript) was with Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine's president, who is saying nothing new that would be of interest:

“People do not want to compromise on territory,” he says, warning that allowing the conflict to be “frozen” with any Ukrainian land in Russian hands would simply embolden Mr Putin. “And that is why it is very important…to go to our borders from 1991.”

Zelensky wants Crimea back. Good luck achieving that impossibility one might say.

The second interview is with General Valery Zaluzhny, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The third interview is with Colonel-General Oleksandr Syrsky, the head of Ukraine’s ground forces.

All three men emphasised that the outcome of the war hinges on the next few months. They are convinced that Russia is readying another big offensive, to begin as soon as January.

The author writes that "Ukraine enjoyed a triumphant autumn." One wonders how many thousand Ukrainian soldiers have died for that triumph that was in reality a well controlled Russian retreat to shorten its frontlines.

But neither General Zaluzhny nor General Syrsky sounds triumphant. One reason is the escalating air war. Russia has been pounding Ukraine’s power stations and grid with drones and missiles almost every week since October, causing long and frequent blackouts. Though Russia is running short of precision-guided missiles, in recent weeks it is thought to have offered Iran fighter jets and helicopters in exchange for thousands of drones and, perhaps, ballistic missiles.

Yes, we have known since March 2 that Russia is running out of precision-guided missiles. It has since used only 4,500 of those.

“It seems to me we are on the edge,” warns General Zaluzhny. More big attacks could completely disable the grid. “That is when soldiers’ wives and children start freezing,” he says. “What kind of mood will the fighters be in? Without water, light and heat, can we talk about preparing reserves to keep fighting?"

When it is cold and dark morale indeed becomes a problem. It is not the only one.

A second challenge is the fighting currently under way in Donbas, most notably around the town of Bakhmut. General Syrsky, who arrives at the interview in eastern Ukraine in fatigues, his face puffy from sleep deprivation, says that Russia’s tactics there have changed under the command of Sergei Surovikin, who took charge in October. The Wagner group, a mercenary outfit that is better equipped than Russia’s regular army, fights in the first echelon. Troops from the Russian republic of Chechnya and other regulars are in the rear. But whereas these forces once fought separately, today they co-operate in detachments of 900 soldiers or more, moving largely on foot.

Bakhmut is not an especially strategic location. Although it lies on the road to Slovyansk and Kramatorsk, two biggish cities (see map), Ukraine has several more defensive lines to fall back on in that direction. What is more, Russia lacks the manpower to exploit a breakthrough. The point of its relentless onslaught on Bakhmut, the generals believe, is to pin down or “fix” Ukrainian units so that they cannot be used to bolster offensives in Luhansk province to the north. “Now the enemy is trying to seize the initiative from us,” says General Syrsky. “He is trying to force us to go completely on the defensive.”

If Bakhmut is not a strategic location why is the Ukrainian army sending more and more troops into it? Russia is using Bakhmut not only to “fix” Ukrainian units. It is using it to eliminate them with up to 500 Ukrainian soldiers killed or wounded per day. The real fixing operation is happening elsewhere.

Ukraine also faces a renewed threat from Belarus, which began big military exercises in the summer and more recently updated its draft register. On December 3rd Sergei Shoigu, Russia’s defence minister, visited Minsk, the Belarusian capital, to discuss military co-operation. Western officials say that Belarus has probably given too much material support to Russian units to enter the fray itself, but the aim of this activity is probably to fix Ukrainian forces in the north, in case Kyiv is attacked again, and so prevent them from being used in any new offensive.

General Zaluzhny has a quite realistic view on what is coming:

“Russian mobilisation has worked,” says General Zaluzhny. “A tsar tells them to go to war, and they go to war.” General Syrsky agrees: “The enemy shouldn’t be discounted. They are not weak…and they have very great potential in terms of manpower.” He gives the example of how Russian recruits, equipped only with small arms, successfully slowed down Ukrainian attacks in Kreminna and Svatove in Luhansk province—though the autumn mud helped. Mobilisation has also allowed Russia to rotate its forces on and off the front lines more frequently, he says, allowing them to rest and recuperate. “In this regard, they have an advantage.”

But the main reason Russia has dragooned so many young men, the generals believe, is to go back on the offensive for the first time since its bid to overrun Donbas fizzled out in the summer. “Just as in [the second world war]…somewhere beyond the Urals they are preparing new resources,” says General Zaluzhny, referring to the Soviet decision to move the defence industry east, beyond the range of Nazi bombers. “They are 100% being prepared.” A major Russian attack could come “in February, at best in March and at worst at the end of January”, he says. And it could come anywhere, he warns: in Donbas, where Mr Putin is eager to capture the remainder of Donetsk province; in the south, towards the city of Dnipro; even towards Kyiv itself. In fact a fresh assault on the capital is inevitable, he reckons: “I have no doubt they will have another go at Kyiv.”

The general is building and holding back reserves which is problematic for the front lines:

The temptation is to send in reserves. A wiser strategy is to hold them back.

“May the soldiers in the trenches forgive me,” says General Zaluzhny. “It’s more important to focus on the accumulation of resources right now for the more protracted and heavier battles that may begin next year.”

Ukraine has enough men under arms—more than 700,000 in uniform, in one form or another, of whom more than 200,000 are trained for combat. But materiel is in short supply. Ammunition is crucial, says General Syrsky. “Artillery plays a decisive role in this war,” he notes. “Therefore, everything really depends on the amount of supplies, and this determines the success of the battle in many cases.” General Zaluzhny, who is raising a new army corps, reels off a wishlist. “I know that I can beat this enemy,” he says. “But I need resources. I need 300 tanks, 600-700 IFVs [infantry fighting vehicles], 500 Howitzers.” The incremental arsenal he is seeking is bigger than the total armoured forces of most European armies.

Does Zaluzhny really believe that he could get that force? I don't think so.

The Economist points out that donors of weapons have run out of pretty much everything:

On December 6th America’s Congress agreed in principle to let the Pentagon buy 864,000 rounds of 155mm artillery shells, more than 12,000 GPS-guided Excalibur shells and 106,000 GPS-guided GMLRS rockets for HIMARS—theoretically enough to sustain Ukraine’s most intense rate of fire for five months non-stop. But this will be produced over a number of years, not in time for a spring offensive.

Russia has similar problems. It will run out of “fully serviceable” munitions early next year, says an American official, forcing it to use badly maintained stocks and suppliers like North Korea. Its shell shortages are “critical”, said Admiral Tony Radakin, Britain’s defence chief, on September 14th.

The last part is of course as valid as the claim that Russia is 'running out of missiles'.

But even while lacking armored forces and ammunition Ukraine still dreams of big attacks:

“With this kind of resource I can’t conduct new big operations, even though we are working on one right now,” says General Zaluzhny.

The writer discusses various options where Ukraine could attack but finds that it does not really have a good one. The big victory over Russia will not be coming:

In private, however, Ukrainian and Western officials admit there may be other outcomes. “We can and should take a lot more territory,” General Zaluzhny insists. But he obliquely acknowledges the possibility that Russian advances might prove stronger than expected, or Ukrainian ones weaker, by saying, “It is not yet time to appeal to Ukrainian soldiers in the way that Mannerheim appealed to Finnish soldiers.” He is referring to a speech which Finland’s top general delivered to troops in 1940 after a harsh peace deal which ceded land to the Soviet Union.

So how many soldiers will still have to die before Zaluzhny is willing to give his Mannerheim speech (vid)? He does not say.

He will probably have to hold his speech sooner than he thinks because the Ukrainian economy has broken down. GDP decreased by 33% this year and, as attacks on the electrical net continue, it will shrink by another 5 or 10% next year. Inflation is above 20%, unemployment above 30%. The big metal and mining industries had to shut down as they depend on uninterrupted electricity supplies. Meanwhile donors are unwilling to hand to Ukraine the budget it claims to need.

It seems possible that the pending bankruptcy of Ukraine may indeed end the war earlier than any military action.

Comments

“The WEST must be insane. Who are these idiots. Crimea is Russia. Period.”
It has only been a Russian possession about as long as the USA has been a country.

Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Dec 15 2022 22:53 utc | 101

A sloSMO is how we elect to dispatch our foe
Day after day, we deliver blow after blow
And yet, On the sidelines, a world away, our critics chide…
what’s going on, we demand to know!
We field an enigmatic General, Sorovikin
A refrigerator with eyes; he has western pundits squawkin
He does a lot of bombing, but very little to no talkin
Day 1, he stated he needed 300,000 troops for caulkin
Well, that had Lloyd Austin baulkin
CNN, BBC, NBC, and especially Sky
They never tell us Zelensky is permanent high
They tell us Russian mothers are crying, in their thousands, sons dying
It’s Konashenkov, they insist, who is lying
All the while, their presstitude trade they are plying
And day after day the oh-so-slo-SMO,
Grinds on and on, effective, but sans machismo
Hey Russians…that’s not how to do war
Do it like us, more action, more Shock and Awe
WTF is a special military operation… its a just giant bore
We want Film at 11, with plenty of gore.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 15 2022 23:03 utc | 102

In response to

“The WEST must be insane. Who are these idiots. Crimea is Russia. Period.”
It has only been a Russian possession about as long as the USA has been a country.
Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Dec 15 2022 22:53 utc | 101

So then the USA will go back to the Native Americans when Crimea goes back to ???
The Native Americans seems to have better morals, I don’t know about pre-Russia Crimea.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 15 2022 23:03 utc | 103

Subscribed to the economist for year’s.
Gave up on it just became another vut and past narrative expounded.
The journalism quality has been sinking since the early noughties.
This is a bigger more obvious example of the decline.

Posted by: jpc | Dec 15 2022 23:03 utc | 104

#79 Leonardo
#89 Catdog
I was under the impression that the Russian political elite defer to the Russian military leadership when tactical battleground decisions were required.
And that is the difference between the Russians and their allies. and the NATO/Pentagon/Globalist alliance.
The former are fighting through a military prism, the latter are fighting through a political prism.

Posted by: Orchard1 | Dec 15 2022 23:05 utc | 105

“That is when soldiers’ wives and children start freezing,” he says

That’s also when I start shooting my own commanders lol. You can’t really threaten a man beyond his family. Most real men are willing to die for their families so threatening them with death isn’t likely to get any results. I might as well take out the commander and try to find my way back to my family somehow, killing whoever I need to on the way. It’s worth a shot I guess.
A lot of people don’t seem to understand how common friendly fire actually is in war. Even in our fake wars where everything is written up in dumb “reports” all the time we still had friendly fire incidents and soldiers got shot. I know of actual murders that occurred that were explained away as an accident (I won’t go into details because I know the FBI monitors this website and if they ask to speak with me I won’t speak to them anyway and say I made the whole thing up, and they have no real way to determine which incident I’m talking about). Ukraine is a REAL war and I’m guessing record keeping and accountability is probably at a minimum. Offing your commander doesn’t seem like it would be that difficult in this kind of environment. I would even consider taking his ID and what not and assuming his identity since that might help me get back to my family.

Posted by: TheMoronMajority | Dec 15 2022 23:14 utc | 106

My guess FWIW
1 all strategists know that destroying the enemy’s capacity to resist is the principal aim of war
2 Ukraine is close to this point
3 then it’s time for Surovikan to choose
A big arrow offensive to cut off all uke troops
B Leave them to waste themselves attacking
C a series of raids to destroy and disrupt
His choice. I agree with Col MacG that now, for the Russians, it’s all out. But they have the initiative and the time. I think they will take both.

Posted by: HELMHOLTZ SMITH | Dec 15 2022 23:15 utc | 107

Duncan Idaho | Dec 15 2022 22:53 utc | 101
Crimea…..”only been a Russian possession about as long as the USA has been a country.”
And about as long as Australia was charted and began to appear on world cartography.
What’s your point?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 15 2022 23:17 utc | 108

According to a report I saw this morning citing RF MOD, the country with the highest number of mercs in 404 is Canada, which incidentally happens to be UkroNazi central of the western hemisphere, and erstwhile home of Chrystia Freeland’s Nazi officer grandfather (Alberta).
Posted by: nwwoods | Dec 15 2022 22:34 utc | 93

Freeland’s grandfather, Michael Chomiak, was not a Nazi Officer, he was a propagandist (newspaper editor at Krakivs’ki Visti). Easily confirmed online.
Please provide the link that shows the number of Canadian mercs in Ukraine, it must be in your browser history.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 15 2022 23:24 utc | 109

Opport Knocks | Dec 15 2022 23:24 utc | 109
t.me/trackamerc

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 15 2022 23:27 utc | 110

James Grip | Dec 15 2022 22:52 utc | 100
https://t.me/HersonVestnik/12075

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 15 2022 23:29 utc | 111

The Native Americans seems to have better morals, I don’t know about pre-Russia Crimea.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 15 2022 23:03 utc | 103
The main business enterprise of the Crimean Kharnate was the slave trade. Southern Russia and perhaps what was then part of Poland now Ukraine was the source of raw material.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 15 2022 23:34 utc | 112

Why hasn’t Russia destroyed all the bridges and rail lines so that the Ukrainian army can’t be supported? Are the profits of Russian oligarchs really that much more important than Russian lives?
How can Russia conduct a major offensive without further mobilization? Isn’t the goal likely to be to reinforce the current lines while using destruction of the electrical grid to force negotiations even though putin has acknowledged that the USA can’t be trusted?

Posted by: My Comment | Dec 15 2022 23:35 utc | 113

Jaymz Alaniemi from Enderby, British Columbia, Canada.
He served in the Canadian Military and retired in 2018. He was deployed in Crimea (Poland Border) in 2016-2017. I guess he didn’t achieve the level of thirst for he wanted so he seems to have enrolled up to joining the Int Legion, dropping out of his computing degree.
He arrived in Ukraine on April the 4th after being brainwashed by the main stream media. He has never been involved in direct combat.
He served with people like Carl Larson (fled), Harry Gregg (fled) and some more foreigners.
He’s still alive, just unsure on his activity.
https://t.me/TrackAMerc/2067

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 15 2022 23:35 utc | 114

It’s interesting that none of these Westernaganda rags ever attempt to interview anyone from the government or military in Russia.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Dec 15 2022 23:35 utc | 115

Opport Knocks | Dec 15 2022 23:24 utc | 109
t.me/trackamerc
Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 15 2022 23:27 utc | 110

I searched back to the beginning of December and there are 3 Canadians mentioned. Not many compared to Poles, Brits, US, etc.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 15 2022 23:45 utc | 116

@ James Grip, #100
Can a dick trigger a “beartrap”?? Not the ones I’ve seen, unless, of course, its a seriously heavy dick…

Posted by: DakotaRog | Dec 15 2022 23:49 utc | 117

@psychohistorian 103
Crimea was ceded by the Ottoman Empire to the Crimean Khanate in 1478. This was stratified by the 1774 Treaty of Küçükkaynarca, prior to annexation by the Russian Empire in 1783. it remained a part of the Russian Empire and it’s successor state, the Soviet Union, until 1991 when it was claimed by the Ukraine on the grounds that the Ukrainians who had murdered Stalin and usurped power had transferred Crimea to the Ukrainian administrative region, but leased Crimea back to Russia for a century. When the Ukraine attempted to repudiate the lease in 2014 after the US backed coup, Russia copied the US actions in Kosova, held a referendum in the Crimea, and reincorporated the Crimea when it voted to rejoin Russia in the referendum.

Posted by: Hermit | Dec 15 2022 23:57 utc | 118

I think that the Economist interviews are most interesting in terms of Ukraine’s military capacity if viewed in the context of the new resources coming from outside the country. If the stories of battlefield communication being dominated by foreign languages are true then it is equally likely that Ukraine’s current mobilisation is of mercenaries rather than the dregs that they can recruit locally. We hear of Poland mobilising 200,000 of its citizens for instance. What if the US was funding Poland to send (more of) its troops to Ukraine?
And then the demands for more tanks etc. What if the US was going to send thousands of Abrams tanks? Zelensky’s plans for future military victories rely very much on these outside resources. All of this of course presumes that the US under the banner of NATO is going to go all in and stop pretending that Ukraine is doing all the fighting. Clearly for the more war mongering US politicians and the most Russophobic Europeans such as the Poles and the Baltic states this is their wet dream come true.
Its also clearly why Putin has soft peddled the SMO so far. He has anticipated this likely escalation. Which is why the economic effects on Germany and all of Europe have to be given time to work. Simultaneously the rest of the world had to be given time to come to the conclusion that being on the same side as Russia was a smart and safe thing to do. At the start of 2022 it was by no means clear that Russia could stand up to the US and NATO and get away with it. Hence the constant propaganda in the Western media to show that Russia is weak and is losing. The only way to counteract that is by firstly not losing and secondly progressively winning.
By now it is clear that its the West that is losing. Running out of ammo, in economic distress, energy poor and not a single statesman to lead them. The United Nations vote today where the global south outvoted the West 130 to 50 in favour of a new economic order is the indicator of which way world opinion is heading.

Posted by: Cyberhorse | Dec 15 2022 23:58 utc | 119

I think this round table with Larry Johnson, Peter Lavelle was linked earlier but I will link it again as it was quite interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QKflydtPYw&t=3s
They like Macgregor think there will be a major offensive in the coming weeks.
Will Schryver
@imetatronink
The Russian buildup in Belarus over the past two months has been massive: ~200k troops; 100s of aircraft; 1000s of latest-model tanks, AFVs, mobile artillery, and mobile air defense systems.
Today a Russian AWACS arrived.
I find it difficult to believe this is just a feint.
https://twitter.com/imetatronink
I have not seen any pro Ukraine anti Russia propaganda in our government owned tabloid ABC for some days now. The European elite have banked everything on defeating Russia. Now their economies are in tatters and they have very little in the way of arms and ammunition to send Ukraine. A major Russian offensive at full power – some shock and awe Russian style – might be enough to break up Nato and the EU.
Another from Schryver – “When the outcome of this war finally reaches the plateau of near-universal indisputability, it’s going to unleash a tsunami of cognitive dissonance on the #SlavaUkraini universe.”

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 16 2022 0:02 utc | 120

Opport Knocks | Dec 15 2022 23:45 utc | 116
I’m always astonished at how few Aussies are listed ….
With the 24/7 years of anti Russia media mind control.
Add in MH-17; generations of Eastern European migration, and our own perennial Rambo-wannabe idiots… I had thought more Australian flogs would be waving as KIA…

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 16 2022 0:05 utc | 121

@Cyberhorse 119
Link to anything on the UN vote?

Posted by: Hermit | Dec 16 2022 0:06 utc | 122

Biggus Dickus resplendant with splayed trident in field of UkroNazi trash on MoA battle armor @Dec 15 2022 22:52 utc | 100
That’s not the parking brake, Dicky. 😆

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 16 2022 0:07 utc | 123

The most interesting admission from the Interviews is the 200,000 men with training admission. So Ukraine is now outnumbered by 3 to one in actual combat effectives and at the end of it’s demographic potential. In addition the general admits to shortages of materials, vehicles and ammunition. Overwhich he has 0 influence.
I do think the Russians are handicapped by not having air superiority. Contested airspace robs them of the ability to interdict AFU communications more effectively.
Russias greatest problem is the ongoing corruption that seems to exist as a consequence of the internal contradictions posed by it’s underlying oligarchy. I’ve seen it argued both ways: that corruption has been reduced under Putin or that it has increased.
We can only guess, without any real information. My guess would be it has been reduced, but what remains has hardened it’s grip. Perhaps Russian citizens could comment on the extent of low level corruption, but economic dynamic seems to be sapped by corruption at higher levels in the circles of power around Putin.
I dont actually think there is much evidence for the notion that Putin is personally corrupt (to any large degree), but there are power centers and interests around him that operate corruptly and with impunity.
One wonders if this war will not have more profound social/political impacts inside Russia. A successful war that mobilizes national feeling may actually form the basis for a future opposition that demands a real voice when Putin inevitably retires.
If Russia had fully functioning property rights and independent courts that unshackled the private economy – combined with its abundance of natural resources and generally traditional values – Russia could be a true economic giant. War, especially popular, successful wars can reshape societies.

Posted by: Dan Farrand | Dec 16 2022 0:11 utc | 124

@ watcher | Dec 15 2022 22:41 utc | 98
The Antonivsky Bridge’s logistical hazard weighed heavily on Shoigu. Supply trucks became an easy to hit, exposed target each time they crossed the bridge.

Posted by: ? | Dec 16 2022 0:27 utc | 125

@ Dan Farrand | Dec 16 2022 0:11 utc | 124
Like Yeltsin’s `Russia’, eh.
Are you an expat — a recent expat? Whaddayaknow?

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 16 2022 0:29 utc | 126

Hermit | Dec 15 2022 23:57 utc | 118
Re Crimea history in 100words… Yep. Good post
Add in the 1991 Crimea vote to join Russian Federation rather than be absorbed into Ukraine…. And there you have it.
Crimea is Russia.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 16 2022 0:39 utc | 127

Posted by: Dan Farrand | Dec 16 2022 0:11 utc | 124
I find the use of the term oligarchy to describe Russians as just another form of western propaganda, but one sanitised to avoid appearing (and in fact being) anti semitic. What makes the dominant business interest any more oligarchs than the dominant business interests in the US- Bezos, Musk, Zukerberg etc.
Moreover calling them Russian oligarchs is misleading. They are ex Soviet residents who have made fortunes, but not really in the sense of being Russian loyalists or residents. Of the nine oligarchs listed in Wikipeaedia, 3 have Israeli citizenship, one Finnish, one Armenian, one Latvian, 2 are Muslims possibly from within the existing Russian confederation but not Russian in the sense of native language. Only one is Russian in the sense that Putin is Russian. Essentially using the term oligarch is a polite way of saying those of Semitic origin- Jewish or Muslim – 5 have Jewish mothers, two are Muslim, one Armenian and only ONE is Russian.
Of course it is pretty much the same of US oligarchs who are generally newly arrived immigrants, with the zeal for advancement still very strong.
Also Don I guess you are aware that it was the introduction ow Western, property systems that allowed the rise of the oligarchs.

Posted by: watcher | Dec 16 2022 0:39 utc | 128

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 16 2022 0:02 utc | 120
I am sure that the ABC (Neo Cleo) has more important issues- Xmas gifts and makeup etc. Some recipes.

Posted by: watcher | Dec 16 2022 0:42 utc | 129

TheMoronMajority | Dec 15 2022 23:14 utc | 106
One Vietnam vet, an officer, told me how he crapped in his pants when VC mortars came down for the first time. Eventually they put sandbags on top of the tin bunker roofs to keep the mortars out.
He got into an altercation, a power play, with his XO. So his CO transferred him out to another command to keep him safe from the XO.
UAF seems like a group of disparate warlords who protect their own turf. Fiefdoms all over the place.

Posted by: ? | Dec 16 2022 0:45 utc | 130

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 15 2022 23:24 utc | 109
Freeland’s grandfather, Michael Chomiak, was not a Nazi Officer, he was a propagandist (newspaper editor at Krakivs’ki Visti). Easily confirmed online.
Easily confirmed. A tad more than a newspaper editor – “propagandist.”
Example the Ottawa Citizen

[.] The Globe and Mail also reported that an official in Freeland’s office denied the minister’s grandfather was a Nazi collaborator.
In addition, the claims were dismissed outright by those in the Canadian-Ukrainian community. “It is the continued Russian modus operandi that they have,” Paul Grod, president of the Canadian Ukrainian Congress told the Globe and Mail. “Fake news, disinformation and targeting different individuals. It is just so outlandish when you hear some of these allegations – whether they are directed at minister Freeland or others.”
Well it actually isn’t so outlandish. Michael Chomiak was a Nazi collaborator.
What are the sources for the information that Freeland’s grandfather worked for the Nazis?
For starters, The Ukraine Archival Records held by the Province of Alberta. It has a whole file on Chomiak, including his own details about his days editing the newspaper Krakivski Visti.
Chomiak noted he edited the paper first in Crakow (Cracow), Poland and then in Vienna. The reason he edited the paper in Vienna was because he had to flee with his Nazis colleagues as the Russians advanced into Poland. (The Russians tended to execute collaborators well as SS members).
See archive entry below [:]

+ + + + + +
And perhaps ask the Polish government with oh so long memories.
Fast forward – the famous Canadian rally February 27, 2022: LINK
Not surprising then …. “we should send $billions, mercs, and weapons. It’s for the children.”
In the era of WOKE and deception, try with all might, history cannot be cancelled.

Posted by: Likklemore | Dec 16 2022 0:46 utc | 131

Vucic has challenged NATO on Kosovo, invoking UNSCR 1244, which the Outlaw US Empire has stated it will ignore according to RT:

“Earlier this week, the State Department’s special envoy Gabriel Escobar told a US government outlet that Washington “categorically” opposed the return of Serbian police to Kosovo. In response, Serbian PM Ana Brnabic asked if there were any resolutions, agreements or principles that the West deemed applicable, “or are we just supposed to follow your horoscope in order to guess your wishes?”

The water’s at a high simmer soon to become boiling.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 16 2022 0:51 utc | 132

@ Hermit | Dec 15 2022 23:57 utc | 118 with the short history of Crimea…thanks!
Russia has a stronger claim to Crimea than the USA does to its “homeland” and the USA shows the historic trail of barbarism in the West extending beyond North America

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 16 2022 0:54 utc | 133

The US Ambassador to NATO is a Putin-loving nazi…. She must
be…. She just said this>… and only a Putin-loving Nazi would say such lies:

US ambassador to NATO: “The alliance has a shortage of weapons because of Ukraine.”
According to Julianne Smith, stocks are dwindling in all NATO countries, especially those such as Estonia, which has “provided tremendous support to Ukraine through military aid deliveries.”

https://twitter.com/Trollstoy88/status/1603279851577909248
[She should have been watching Brian Berletic for the past 6months…. That’s at least as long as he’s been stating USNATO has a weapon + logistics problem]

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 16 2022 0:54 utc | 134

Hannah Barker, dissertation, Egyptian and Italian Merchants in the Black Sea Slave Trade, 1260-1500 (2014). 417 pp. It’s an easy enough read, thoroughly sourced. [pdf DOWNLOAD]
Also published under the title That Most Precious Merchandise: The Mediterranean Trade in Black Sea Slaves, 1260-1500 (2019)

Posted by: sln2002 | Dec 16 2022 0:55 utc | 135

The escalation continues. Most keep talking about negotiations as the solution. Yet, there is no move towards negotiations. If the escalation continues, the end result will be all out nuclear war.
As the escalation progresses, more are beginning to realize the end is tipping more to all out nuclear war versus peaceful negotiation and treaty resolution.

Posted by: young | Dec 16 2022 0:58 utc | 136

Peter AU 1 @ 120:
The ABC probably dares not say anything about the war in Ukraine in case people start asking uncomfortable questions about the Bushmaster tanks we sent there and how a damaged Bushmaster tank ended up in a military exhibition in Moscow a few weeks after its shipment to Ukraine.
In any case, trumpeting up anti-Chinese / pro-Taiwanese propaganda is more important. The ABC can only concentrate on one thing at a time, on its proverbial shoe-string budget.
At present also, the recent incident in which two police officers were shot dead by three people in an apparent menage-a-trois household, and all three of the shooters suspicious of the COVID-19 injections, has the Australian mass media in a frenzy over supposed anti-vaxx conspiracy theory fanatics. That one will take time to settle down while the stenographers continue to hyperventilate and extract whatever tawdry value they can out of the incident to silence criticism or opposition to the current COVID-19 treatment protocols.

Posted by: Jen | Dec 16 2022 1:11 utc | 137

@ Richard Steven Hack | Dec 15 2022 21:58 utc | 85
good summation.. thanks..
@ Melaleuca | Dec 15 2022 22:47 utc | 99
i share your viewpoint.. thanks for stating it.. thanks for your other posts as well..
@ karlof1… i looked for johnny rottens post, but not sure what thread it is on… thanks.. one thread with 117 comments and didn’t see it on that one..

Posted by: james | Dec 16 2022 1:14 utc | 138

@ karlof1… i found it now.. thanks.
@ young | Dec 16 2022 0:58 utc | 136
that is how it looks to me as well..

Posted by: james | Dec 16 2022 1:16 utc | 139

Melaleuca @ 121:
It’s possible some Australians are fighting in Ukraine as citizens of another country because they already have dual citizenship, or for some reason they have never taken out Australian citizenship despite having lived in Australia for a long time.

Posted by: Jen | Dec 16 2022 1:22 utc | 140

Another from Schryver – “When the outcome of this war finally reaches the plateau of near-universal indisputability, it’s going to unleash a tsunami of cognitive dissonance on the #SlavaUkraini universe.”
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 16 2022 0:02 utc | 120

The hardest to awake are those who pretend to be asleep.

Posted by: Nobody | Dec 16 2022 1:32 utc | 141

There’s really nothing to negotiate.
They/”we” (“the west”) can capitulate. “We” are 100% in the wrong and have been for at the very least roughly a decade and our political unconditional surrender would immediately improve both our own situation and remove hardships from the entire world. All sanctions and military involvement should be immediately removed as null and void. Russian concerns and security demands accepted (and let’s dismantle NATO while we’re at it, not for their sake but for ours, Europe can join CSTO instead and the US MIC collapses and suddenly everyone on the globe will be far richer than we ever have been before since a huge ongoing black hole of sunk costs has been removed; an enormous waste of time, effort, energy, and maybe also some talent/human resources).
The simplicity also illustrates the complexity just as the ease illustrates the difficulty; the above is extremely far away from where they/”we” are currently.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Dec 16 2022 1:45 utc | 142

@ young 136
CNN cited by ZH:
“The Russian Embassy in Washington has now issued an additional warning”

[.] Any shipment of US Patriot missiles to Ukraine could “lead to unpredictable consequences,” the Russian Embassy in Washington said Wednesday, after US officials told CNN the White House is finalizing plans to bolster Ukraine’s military arsenal. Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Maria Zakharova said Thursday that Washington’s potential delivery would increase the risk of the US military’s direct involvement in the Ukrainian conflict, according to state news agency TASS. [.]
Further warning that it could lead to showdown between nuclear-armed powers, the embassy stated: “Washington’s strategy causes enormous damage not only to the Russian-American relations, but also creates additional risks for global security.”
(original emphasis)

Is there a statesman?
No. the financial system is in collapse, big boys (Blackstone, Blackrock) have been limiting withdrawals. The Ukraine conflict is a convenient distraction.

Posted by: Likklemore | Dec 16 2022 1:52 utc | 143

Posted by: watcher | Dec 15 2022 22:41 utc | 98
Posted by: catdog | Dec 15 2022 22:17 utc | 89
Absolutely right but it begs the question, “Why were those HIMARS not knocked out?” The Russians had months and months to do it. They are either unable or unwilling to do it , and I think it was more unwilling than unable. My take? Scared to have body bags of Russian commandoes or heli pilots seen on TV . So like the rhyme says: the Kherson Kingdom was lost for the want of a Destroy-the -HIMARS nail.
It is very simple; Russia could have just said , if the dam is broken, we will break Kiev’s and drown them too. I still believe the Row would have supported Russia in that.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 15 2022 21:58 utc | 85
Where is this long line of defenses? All I see is “Bakhmut”. Yes, I know it is a transport hub ,but surely Russia could have gone around them . To what end though, when the US calls the shots and dont care if a Ukrainian surrenders. Why hasn’t Bakmut been asphyxiated with thermobarics and Tsar Bombas?

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 16 2022 1:53 utc | 144

In full support of

The hardest to awake are those who pretend to be asleep.
Posted by: Nobody | Dec 16 2022 1:32 utc | 141

I had lunch with a friend of 40+ years two days ago and it was testy because we kept stumbling into areas that we can’t talk about anymore or he gets mad and we end the conversation. Deep down I believe he knows that he is riding the wrong horse but he has lots of friends riding along with him….pointing at me and sneering….sigh. At the lunch he gave me a 1 of 2 pieces of poster art that another friend of his created and sent to him…quite the artist he says you have never heard of…grin I will frame the one given to me and make sure it gets back to family when I am gone if not after my friend dies…..not good health…sigh…
Enough of this story but I expect it is repeated throughout the West as this shit show reveals itself.
IMO, the real nut is Might-Makes_Right patriarchy which came before the monotheistic religions that created dogma around Might-Makes_Right patriarchy. Other folks around the world want a multipolar world which requires the neutering of Might-Makes_Right patriarchy and its associated God of Mammon control over global finance.
Ukraine is the current hotbed of Might-Makes_Right patriarchy facing an axis of countries faced by Russia but backed by China, Iran, etc. axis.
This is the civilization war we are watching occur

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 16 2022 2:03 utc | 145

Cyberhorse @119
“We hear of Poland mobilising 200,000 of its citizens for instance”
do you have a ref?

Posted by: fanto | Dec 16 2022 2:06 utc | 146

Disinformation: “The dissemination of intentionally false information to deliberately confuse or mislead.”
The Devil’s Dictionary (apologies to Ambrose Bierce) did not contain this word. I never heard it growing up. Ever.
Anyone repeating the word is a dupe or a liar.
Will Durant would’ve termed this end-point era The Age of Lying Out Your Ass. I’m not lying.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Dec 16 2022 2:09 utc | 147

The Polish Army is to offer a one-day basic training course to all its citizens aged between 18 and 65, the Ministry of Defence announced.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 16 2022 2:15 utc | 148

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 16 2022 1:53 utc | 144
Out of interest Ma not sure where you are from, but in a civil war between England and Scotland, would you expect England to bomb Edinborough, given the huge amounts of shared history? Would they bomb York cathedral?
That is the problem Russia has. Kiev is a fundamental part of Russian history, older than Moscow and St Petersberg. I am not sure how Russian would take the destruction of their own history. It is the same with Odessa and Kherson and probably many other places.
it is OK to destroy electricity infrastructure because that is modern and replaceable, but destruction of ancient buildings – much less acceptable. That is the US way of war, but not really that of most of Europe- or indeed civilized people anywhere.

Posted by: watcher | Dec 16 2022 2:18 utc | 149

I’m always astonished at how few Aussies are listed ….
With the 24/7 years of anti Russia media mind control.
Add in MH-17; generations of Eastern European migration, and our own perennial Rambo-wannabe idiots… I had thought more Australian flogs would be waving as KIA…
Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 16 2022 0:05 utc | 121
You are confusing the former Aussies of the Crocodile Dundee generation to present incarnation of more like Pricilla Queen of the Desert. Indeed some ferocious armchair generals still exist salivating for war with China, the imbeciles can’t see that it would last shorter than their first sexual experience.

Posted by: Organic | Dec 16 2022 2:21 utc | 150

Posted by: james | Dec 15 2022 21:37 utc | 77
Yes I ditched Col Lang and TTG. Col Lang has dishonored and disgraced himself by parroting ISW and other deep state propaganda and revealing that to the world that he is at heart a full-fledged neocon, except for the MENA, where his being turned down for a leading role post 9-11 caused him to vent his personal bile with his blog. TTG was always an idiot; at times a friendly enough idiot, but an idiot all the same. He has fully revealed himself to the world as a disingenuous deep state/neocon mouthpiece. Turcopolier is not worth reading let alone being associated with. One can obtain the same “analysis” and opinion by watching CNN. It is reduced a couple near psychopaths – one grouchy old man and the other an oily used car dealer type – leading delusional lunk-heads down a garden path. I’m sure they think it’s their duty, or something like that because…. well because they’re mean old covert government dogs that can’t learn new tricks. What they really exhibit with their scurrilous output is arrogant contempt for the citizens of the United States. That makes me really despise them.
That said – and despite my sympathies toward Russia – don’t think I’m in any hurry to join leagues with socialist America hater types, like those making up the bulk of MoA. All of the bad ideas and behaviors currently degenerating America had their start in Europe.

Posted by: Eric Newhill | Dec 16 2022 2:23 utc | 151

It is worth reading the “Economist” article referenced in B’s introduction.
https://www.economist.com/ukraines-fateful-winter
You will have to register to get past the firewall, but it’s not difficult.
The Economist is very-much the voice of the UK finance-capital establishment – Not usually intended for reading by the likes of us.
It usually presents a reliable picture in its articles.
That’s what its top-drawer capitalist-class readers expect.
Their financial decisions depend on reliable information.
The article certainly trots out the western-propaganda line.
But – Read it intelligently, and it becomes pretty that UKR is in big-time shit-street.
Its loss of huge sections of electrical power and the hammering that its armed forces have taken are clear indicators that it is beaten and can hardly function as a competent military state.
I’m looking forward to the Russian offensive any-time-soon.

Posted by: Engineer-John | Dec 16 2022 2:24 utc | 152

Posted by: Jen | Dec 16 2022 1:11 utc | 137
Bushmaster is an IFV not a tank

Posted by: Peter Williams | Dec 16 2022 2:28 utc | 153

fanto | Dec 16 2022 2:06 utc | 146
Try this in your search engine of choice:
> Poland mobilising 200,000 of its citizens <

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 16 2022 2:29 utc | 154

Peter Williams | Dec 16 2022 2:28 utc | 153
Bushmaster…. Now a just fancy word for scrap metal

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 16 2022 2:34 utc | 155

Engineer-John | Dec 16 2022 2:24 utc | 152
>… Economist archive already posted in this thread:
Here: https://archive.ph/FlLC4

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 16 2022 2:51 utc | 156

@ Peter Williams | Dec 16 2022 2:28 utc | 153
The AU Bushmaster is a wheeled APC, NOT an IFV. In fact, not much more than a thin skinned armored 4×4 truck.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 16 2022 2:53 utc | 157

Well, I note that the FT journalist never asked these 3 leaders about the massacre at Mariupal and Odessa and the fact they have murdered 22000 ethnic russian citizens in Donbass over 8 years and are still killing civilians in Donestk today.
They never asked Zelensky about his standing as President in the election on implementing the Minsk accords and peace and why he hadn’t achieved this. Many more questions too.
This level of unprecedented evil by the collective West has to be eradicated. They are covering up serious war crimes by the Zelensky Nazi Govt. It’s frightening and worrying. God Bless Putin and Russia they will prevail over this pure unadulterated evil.
Shame on the collective West’side massive propaganda and censorship campaign. In my lifetime I never thought I would Witness the West alleged champions of democracy defend an outright corrupt brutal Nazi President in Ukraine and strive to impose extreme Fascism on the populations of the collective West. Never. I am truly and utterly dismayed that Fascism is now the sought after model of Govt in the West. Utterly.
Russia will end this a lot sooner than people think. I want to see the RF flag a hoist on the Ukraine Govt building. To misquote Allbright “F…kind the collective West

Posted by: Jo Dominich | Dec 16 2022 2:58 utc | 158

@136 young
Humans will survive as a species but billions will die.
But if that is what the truth demands of us, so be it.
Russia is not afraid to go there and we should not be either.
We were the ones, after all, who let the foxes into the hen house.
Funny that another poster mentions Col. Lang in this thread. His favorite book he mentioned a while back was/is “A Canticle for Liebowitz.”
Funny that the narrative in the book of the nuclear holocaust which reverts humanity who then approach the nuclear age again only to unleash them a second time.
The darkest of humor, of course, are those that imagine our worst fears and can still smirk about it.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Dec 16 2022 3:08 utc | 159

Outraged | Dec 16 2022 2:53 utc | 157
“thin skinned”
Are you calling Australia’s very own much loved… troop moving thingie….
Thin skinned.? How Very Dare You.
I’ll have you know the Bushmaster is able to handle any of the insults the likes of you attempt to disparage it with….

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 16 2022 3:17 utc | 160

Posted by: Vikichka | Dec 15 2022 21:40 utc | 7
Well said.
Posted by: watcher | Dec 16 2022 0:39 utc | 128
Putin is also supposed to be Jewish via his mother. He was also raised by his Jewish neighbour according to Putin lore. The difference is that he is not a Zionist or Israel- First Jew. In Russian culture, your father is what counts anyway, nit your mother. Don’t forget , King Charles’ birth – ban presented to the public on Windsor Castle Gates upon his birth supposedly only says he is a son of Prince Phillip ,not the Queen . Putin’s mother like many Jews considered themselves Russian first and Jewish second if at all.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 16 2022 3:18 utc | 161

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 16 2022 2:34 utc | 155
Are they going to sell it to China for scrap metal?

Posted by: Forest | Dec 16 2022 3:21 utc | 162

in 1920 when the last White Army commanded by Baron Wrangel surrendered in Sevastopol 1920 the “Zelenskyys” of the time AKA Rosa Zemlyachka, Bela Kun and Ephraim Skylansky promised the 40,000 officers and men safe passage. The men were tricked herded on boats and sunk. Approx 70,000 ethnic Russians in Crimea were killed by the Red Tribe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosalia_Zemlyachka
She could be Zelenskyy’s auntie or Victoria Nuland’s cousin. Real Sadistic piece of work.
see: “Massacre of the Wrangelites”
The Russians will never leave Crimea.

Posted by: Wokechoke | Dec 16 2022 3:23 utc | 163

Jen | Dec 16 2022 1:22 utc | 140
An interesting piece of information came out when a Kiwi soldier was killed in Ukraine some time back. He was on ‘unpaid leave’. NZ military said around 100 personnel had taken unpaid leave to go to Ukraine. I assume Australia would have similar numbers there on a per capita basis.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 16 2022 3:28 utc | 164

Forest | Dec 16 2022 3:21 utc | 162
OMFG. China.
Don’t mention “China” anywhere near the same sentence as Australia’s proud son, the blessed Bushmaster.
We couldn’t risk !China! Getting its dimsim stained fingers on our super-doopie troopie. Even in pristine scrap metal state it’s still too sensitive to send to OMG !China!
Who knows what tech they’ll find to steal. Even a busted Bushmaster has …… wheels!… Imagine if !China! steals our wheel technology! OMG.
____
Enough of this.
Christmas chores have been assigned. I’m about to leave the internet. …..And I may be some time. It is with great heroism I proceed …. Christmas chores in Australia are not for the faint hearted.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 16 2022 3:34 utc | 165

Posted by: Lex | Dec 15 2022 22:33 utc | 92
Good point. People forget that the vast majority of an army aren’t fighters – they’re logistics. In Ukraine, it will depend on how many NATO troops are being used as front-line fighters rather than support personal. Given that Ukraine has a couple hundred thousand conscripts, they can be used as support personnel (and thus stay alive) while NATO is sending its best fighters to the front – to get killed.
Works for Russia. In addition, NATO troops aren’t well trained for the sort of war Russia is fighting, plus they don’t have the artillery Russia does or the air support. So no matter how well trained they are, they are still at a disadvantage.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 16 2022 3:35 utc | 166

Jen | Dec 16 2022 1:11 utc | 137
Off topic here so will keep it very short. Any more and I’ll take it to an open thread. Nathan the School principle had married remarried and his wife remained in Walgat teaching and he went to his brothers farm who was married to his former wife who was also a teacher. Haven’t yet found the history of the brother. Nathaniel was highly regarded as a teacher and school principle.
There is much Murdoch style infotainment in the media but there also looks to be a police narrative. Perhaps the three just went crackers but there is nothing to strongly indicate that at the moment.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 16 2022 3:38 utc | 167

U.S. Air Force General Chuck Hoerner (who commanded American-Saudi Axis air forces in the 1991 Gulf War) described the air campaign the US-Saudi Axis conducted in Iraq. First they took out all of Iraq’s air defenses (which took a matter of days). Then they used helicopters and fixed wing aircraft to decimate everything Iraqi that dared to move on the ground. Hoerner said the most terrifying place to be in Iraq was to be inside an Iraqi tank because of the almost certainty the tank would be taken out.
It’s true that Tom Clancy was a co-author of the Hoerner memoir. But so what? Based on what happened in that war, what Hoerner describes is more than plausible. We can all remember the “Turkey Shoot” near Basra. Where is a Russian turkey shoot?
Since we keep hearing a mantra here and elsewhere that Ukrainian air defenses have been dead almost forever, why the fuck are the Russians unable to prevent Ukraine from moving troops and munitions wherever they want with seeming impunity? Early on, Andrei Martyanov said — “don’t worry” — the Ukrainians would never be able to move their NATO supplied weapons because Russian air assets would wipe them out the minute they tried to move.
So why do the Ukrainian forces seem to be able to move men, equipment and munitions all around the whole of Texas-sized Ukraine with virtual impunity?
Sure, it may be the Russians playing 11 dimensional chess. If so, please explain why the foxy Russians find it oh so foxy to let Ukraine bring in reserves and resupply whenever it seems needed. What is it in the 11th dimension that means it it’s smart for the Russians not to use their Ka-52’s. and SU-25’s, 27’s and 35’s to paralyze Ukraine’s ability to move reserves and to resupply munitions? How does that kind of “trap” work.
Who am I — a mere lawyer with a dreaded Political Science degree? As Martinyov makes clear, I have an inferior education and can’t understand anything. So, please enlighten me if you have the time. Why us Ukraine still able to move almost anything it wants anywhere at almost any time? Inquiring minds would like to know.

Posted by: William Verick | Dec 16 2022 3:39 utc | 168

@ Melaleuca | Dec 16 2022 3:17 utc | 160
Indeed thin-skinned. 🙂
A full caliber rifle ball round will penetrate it’s splinter protection armor from 100M or less. It’s not even a practicable wheeled APC, ’cause it’s an excessively overly & unnecessarily complex truck to justify the sales price. Essentially road bound, ’cause with 4×4 under load has virtually nil true off-road capability.
Therefore zero capability to support, accompany or even keep up with tracked IFVs, MBTs or even APC’s, in combined arms maneuver. Only useful for ‘Policing’ or very-low level ‘COIN’, or rear area support behind the FEBA. Need minimum purpose-designed six, preferably eight-wheeled true off-road vehs for that, even then they struggle to operate effectively alongside tracked re maneuver, etc.
Overblown, over-sold/marketed junk, of minimal/marginal battlefield utility. Which is about 129 more words than the subject deserves. 😉

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 16 2022 3:39 utc | 169

The beginning of the end: AFU soldiers surrender at Bakhmut

Posted by: ? | Dec 16 2022 3:41 utc | 170

Re the Russian buildup in Belarus, cited above is this tweet:

Will Schryver
@imetatronink
Dec 14
The Russian buildup in Belarus over the past two months has been massive: ~200k troops; 100s of aircraft; 1000s of latest-model tanks, AFVs, mobile artillery, and mobile air defense systems.

I have yet to see any confirmation of this from anyone. Yesterday I checked for any such news from Belarus, and the best I found was back in October when Belarus said 9,000 Russian troops were arriving.
Does anyone have any link to any official or reasonably reliable source that indicates what is happening in Belarus?
Because if Schryver’s statement is correct, then there is definitely going to be an attack from Belarus toward Kiev, or as Colonel Macgregor suggests, a direct downward thrust bypassing Kiev intended to cut off the Polish border and stop the flow of NATO weapons. Or both.
But that’s only if this sort of statement is actually true and backed by some sort of evidence from a reasonably reliable source. If the Russians only have X thousand troops in Belarus, that ain’t gonna happen. 9,000 troops is just enough to build the bases needed to house larger numbers, or play trainers and reinforcements for the Belarussian forces.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 16 2022 3:45 utc | 171

Please provide the link that shows the number of Canadian mercs in Ukraine, it must be in your browser history.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 15 2022 23:24 utc | 109
As a matter of fact I do.
https://youtube.com/shorts/fMkYnqqlCD0?feature=share
You are correct about Chomiak, although he was rewarded with a lifestyle by the Reich that was far more luxurious than any but the most elite of Nazi officers for his contribution, such as residency in a luxurious apartment formerly occupied by the editor of the media outlet who was sent off with his family to die in a Nazi death camp.

Posted by: nwwoods | Dec 16 2022 3:49 utc | 172

@ Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 16 2022 3:34 utc | 165
Lol 😉
Have a good holiday.

Posted by: Forest | Dec 16 2022 3:54 utc | 173

@ William Verick | Dec 16 2022 3:39 utc | 168
For the Love of Dog, obtain an updated script template !
The multi-trope mish-mash, invalid ignorant operational comparison, obligatory Martyanov slander, & insincere query, ’tis beyond tedious.
By the way, was the ‘Highway of Death”, & not ‘near’ Basra. Basra was the destination, ie safety at the end of highway 80.
No cupie doll for you.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 16 2022 3:59 utc | 174

I spoke too soon. I see there is now anther Ukraine piece in our government tabloid.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 16 2022 4:02 utc | 175

@ psychohistorian | Dec 16 2022 2:03 utc | 145
nice post psychohistorian… i like the artists work as well.. thanks.
@ Eric Newhill | Dec 16 2022 2:23 utc | 151
hi eric… nice to see you post here.. i enjoy reading your commentary and that hasn’t changed! perhaps difficult times challenge everyone to get greater clarity on where they stand, or what they stand for… i have been baffled by pat and ttg for some time, but this dynamic of the past year certainly shed more light on where they stand and what they stand for – and not in a good way.. i don’t like to categorize people, no matter who they are, but i know for simplicity sake it can work.. i am a canadian and don’t share the same history as our friends to the south.. i try to be respectful of others path and life experience.. i think you have good insights and i hope you continue to share them here at moa if you feel inclined… i think the folks at moa are a real mix of people and ideologies.. unlike pats website, it is not american centric, but in some respect more reflective of a number of regions of the planet that are seeking a positive way forward in the interests of all people, as opposed to only some! cheers james

Posted by: james | Dec 16 2022 4:05 utc | 176

@RSH + @bar
Belarus
Hashtag #Belarus on twitter yields (for me) lots of accounts with vid and reports on the recent military exercises, the Belarus snap preparedness drill, and vid of military “stuff” on the move…
https://mobile.twitter.com/TulioWars/status/1602897923024785410
“New tactical signs, red squares, are visible on #Belarusian equipment that is being moved to the border with #Ukraine. Such tactical signs are usually drawn before the start of hostilities but there are not enough Belarusian soldiers for an invasion. It’s posturing only.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/StepanGronk/status/1602930794934063104
Vid of a bridge built during the preparedness drill this week / real recently
https://mobile.twitter.com/skipo_wire/status/1603091631665823746
https://mobile.twitter.com/War2022ua/status/1600597781315469313
Screenie of a CNN report on Belarus troop buildup
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/12/13/7380565/
>> Statement of checking combat readiness of Belarusian armed forces is made to ratchet up tensions 
#Belarusian forces remain unlikely to attack #Ukraine despite a snap Belarusian military readiness check today.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Conquerors1011/status/1602854389676400641
#Belarusian equipment has advanced in the direction of the border with #Ukraine, the Belarusian Gayun reports. In particular:
– 25 BTR-80;
– about 30 MAZ trucks with personnel;
– 3 120-mm mortars 2B23 “Nona-M1” towed by a car;
https://mobile.twitter.com/TulioWars/status/1602614683579682816
_______
Jeeze, I’m living *dangerously*…. Must go, or die.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 16 2022 4:07 utc | 177

@ Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 16 2022 3:35 utc | 166

Given that Ukraine has a couple hundred thousand conscripts, they can be used as support personnel (and thus stay alive) while NATO is sending its best fighters to the front – to get killed.

I like your posts a lot and appreciate your commentary.
It just seems to me that a lot of argument around this conflict is binary. You can swap out Ukr for RF in most media and many comments here.
That is my only point. I dunno.
Why not send in the conscripts and save experience?

Posted by: Forest | Dec 16 2022 4:09 utc | 178

@ William Verick | Dec 16 2022 3:39 utc | 168
i don’t know if you’ll listen, but i think you’d have to get out of the american centric viewpoint of warfare you’ve been conditioned to, in order to think out of that box.. as your examples in iraq display, this approach is not the only approach and it this approach is much less destructive.. i realize this doesn’t appeal to some.. instead they want to flatten everything – right now, like raqqa and elsewhere on the list of american ”wins”…. unfortunately it doesn’t look like a win when you destroy a country – like libya, and think you’ve won something.. in fact, you’ve shown something completely different… and i don’t expect people with no imagination to figure much out.. i am not saying you don’t have any imagination, but contemplating other possibilities and scenarios would be helpful for you, as opposed to asking someone here to lay it all out for you in black and white… if you like black and white – stick with the formula that has, or hasn’t been working for the west this past 70 odd years… cheers..

Posted by: james | Dec 16 2022 4:13 utc | 179

Translated from Russkie FYI:
Иван Бездарный (Ivan Idle) | Dec 16 2022 4:10 utc | 179

I once ate kangaroo meat, but it tasted unusual. And it smelled like a muskrat. It was at this point that I decided never to go to Australia again. Now I get all my kangaroo meat from New Zealand.

@ james | Dec 16 2022 4:05 utc | 176
As discussed years ago … some, though retired … still yet serve.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 16 2022 4:16 utc | 180

Posted by: nwwoods | Dec 16 2022 3:49 utc | 172
> You are correct about Chomiak,
A bit of trivia: khomyak is hamster in Russian.
‘Ch’ is a German style rendering of Russian ‘X’ (Kh) sound. Same like with name Chomsky – his name should be actually pronounced as Khomsky which btw means ‘of (town of) Khomsk’.

Posted by: hopehely | Dec 16 2022 4:16 utc | 181

It just seems to me that a lot of argument around this conflict is binary. You can swap out Ukr for RF in most media and many comments here.
Forest | Dec 16 2022 4:09 utc | 178
The devil is in the details. Western media and even much alt media made no distinction between Russian forces and DPR/LPR forces.
DPR/LPR regular militias were experienced and very good. When Russia announced the SMO the republics mobilized most able bodied men and they went to the front lines with no refresher training and perhaps little no basic training for some. They were generally put in with experienced units but it was very much on the job training. Some passed, some didn’t.
Ukraine on the other hand has been throwing terra units into gaps to act as cannon fodder. An officer shows them what position they have to hold then disappears. So many stories come out like this – remainder of Ukraine units on telegram telling their story, the POW’s.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 16 2022 4:24 utc | 182

@ Jo Dominich | Dec 16 2022 2:58 utc | 158
I note that the FT journalist never asked these 3 leaders . . .
This is standard behavior for western “journalists.” In fact if the writer did ask about western massacres he or she would soon be an ex-writer. It’s been described.
In War Made Easy, Norman Solomon cuts through the dense web of spin to probe and scrutinize the key “perception management” techniques that have played huge roles in the promotion of American wars in recent decades. . . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 16 2022 4:26 utc | 183

@ Posted by: james | Dec 16 2022 4:05 utc | 176
The birds sculpture and large painting are very cool.

Posted by: Forest | Dec 16 2022 4:26 utc | 184

And perhaps ask the Polish government with oh so long memories.
Posted by: Likklemore | Dec 16 2022 0:46 utc | 131
The original poster (nwwoods) said he (Chomiak) was a “Nazi Officer” which implies he had military rank, that is all I was disputing. That he was assisting the Nazis as a propagandist (and perhaps more) was never in dispute.
I am also well aware of the Freeland exposé in the Ottawa Citizen and other Canadian media and her politically incorrect parades with members of the UCC.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 16 2022 4:27 utc | 185

Sputnik News item: US Mulls More Troops Inside Ukraine To Track Arms As Leaked Cable Admits “Impossible” Task
Simple: Each trooper/platoon/brigade/division shall be responsible for tracking their issued weapons. 😁 Come home bearing your shields et cetera, or’se.

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 16 2022 4:32 utc | 186

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 16 2022 3:18 utc | 161
I quite understand and accept that, however of the 5 Jewish oligarchs, at least 4 have taken out alternative citizenship. That does not indicate a close affiliation with Russia. I am aware that Putin has Jewish roots (although I think his mother raised him as Russian Orthodox – perhaps for safety as did the parents of several of my friends. My point is that of the 9 supposedly Russian oligarchs only one appears to hold solely Russian citizenship.
Here in Australia one of our richest former residents is Rupert Murdoch. is his first loyalty to his birthplace, the the USA or which he is a citizen, or only to himself.

Posted by: watcher | Dec 16 2022 4:33 utc | 187

watcher | Dec 16 2022 4:33 utc | 189
What is Putin’s Jewish roots?
Murdoch is very much a Zionist. He plays the goys, raises them up and takes them down. No political affiliations, just whatever bus happens to be going his way.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 16 2022 4:40 utc | 188

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ #Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 15 Dec 2022⚡️
♦️#Russia’s Border Areas:
▪️ In #Kursk region, Ukrainian militants shelled #Kucherov farmstead in #Belovskoye district. No casualties, civilian infrastructure damaged.
▪️ The village of Stary Khutor in the #Belgorod region also came under fire. Shrapnel damaged a power transmission line, no one was injured.
♦️#Kharkov Region:
▪️ The RF Armed Forces carried out several strikes on enemy targets in #Kharkov. According to preliminary reports, they hit CHPP-5 in the #Kholodnogorsk district, the #Minutka railway station and warehouses.
▪️ During the night, the RF Armed Forces hit a facility near #Pesochin, resulting in a power outage in parts of the region for some time.
♦️#Starobelsk Direction:
▪️ Ukrainian forces made several offensive attempts towards #Kislovka and south of #Ploshchanka. The AFU militants came under artillery fire and withdrew.
♦️#Soledar Direction (MAP):
▪️ #Bakhmuts (#Artemovsk) Area:
➖ In #Bakhmut itself, fighting continues in the southeast of the city in the area of Fyodor Maksimenko Street and Pervomaysky Lane.
➖ The Ukrainian army is also fighting to the south near #Kleshcheyevka and #Opytnoye, where fighters of the Wagner PMC are trying to break through the enemy’s defences in a residential area.
➖ West of #Andreyevka and #Kurdyumovka, the RF Armed Forces have captured several AFU strongholds.
▪️ In the #Toretsk sector, the AFU command is moving personnel from the #Kherson direction to the defence lines west of #Kurdyumovka and near #Donetsk.
▪️ In the #Lysychansk sector, positional fighting continues in #Belogorovka.
♦️#Lugansk People’s Republic:
▪️ The enemy militants have fired massive strikes from HIMARS MLRS in #Stakhanov and damaged at least 50 residential buildings.
♦️#Donetsk Direction:
▪️ The AFU (terrorists) shelled the centre of #Donetsk, damaging the Cathedral of the Transfiguration and other civilian buildings, injuring civilians.
▪️ Positional fighting continues in #Maryinka, near #Krasnogorovka and Bolshaya (Velikaya) Novosyolka.
♦️#Kherson Direction on Southern Front:
▪️ Artillery duels continue. The RF Armed Forces have hit #Kherson and its surroundings.
▪️ The enemy militants shelled hotels in Golaya Pristan and #Skadovsk.

https://t.me/sitreports/2142

Posted by: Down South | Dec 16 2022 4:41 utc | 189

@ Forest | Dec 16 2022 4:26 utc | 185
i liked it all for different reasons, although it would be nice to look at it more close up as opposed to on the internet…

Posted by: james | Dec 16 2022 4:44 utc | 190

@ Peter AU1 | Dec 16 2022 4:43 utc | 193
lol.. good response!

Posted by: james | Dec 16 2022 4:45 utc | 191

A feature of conducting both offensive and defensive operations in Ukraine now is that the positions of the opponents, if not yet fortified as in WWI, are at least close to it. To a greater extent, this applies, of course, to the defensive lines of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Ukrainians are still digging in faster and better than us. Fox holes appear very quickly, dugouts are built with high quality and with the requirements necessary for modern warfare.
So, if defensive positions are close in quality to the times of the WWII, then the density of artillery fire is an order of magnitude lower, and its accuracy, if it exceeds the times of a hundred years ago, is not critical. Considering that at the moment large-caliber guns (200+ mm) are very rare, it becomes very difficult to inflict significant losses or knock the enemy out of the forest belt.
During WWII, the problem of breaking through a fortified front was solved at the expense of tank fists and powerful artillery fire, with a concentration of 100+ barrels per kilometer of front. Now one can only dream of such a concentration of barrels and AFVs, and attacks by tank platoons or even mouths are completely stopped by ATGM fire, infantry is pressed and dispersed by artillery, AGS, machine guns, in rare cases it comes to direct infantry combat.
In these scenarios, the role of reconnaissance and the speed of the response of artillery to intelligence data are multiplied. Reconnaissance should catch the enemy on the move and artillery strike both at the enemy not hidden in the trenches, and at the places of medical evacuation. The same applies to equipment in the front-line zone and counter-battery work, which in general becomes the most important factor in hostilities.
Counter-battery, suppression of air defense, isolation of the combat area and only then the long and monotonous destruction of the entrenched enemy by artillery fire (including heavy ones, such as the Tyulpan mortar). After all of the above, the occupation of the enemy defense line by infantry. Simultaneously with these actions, the destruction of the civilian infrastructure of the enemy, because it is the civilian infrastructure, such as the electric power industry and the railway, that is one of the main factors in the combat capability of both the army and the state of the enemy.
All this should be spelled out for the purposes of the campaign and be done routinely, and not in rushes, timed to coincide with state holidays or some other events not directly related to the war. Since we are already waging a war like the First World War, it must be remembered that it was the states that were crushed in WWI, and without taking their capitals and occupying their territories.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/25106

Posted by: Down South | Dec 16 2022 4:50 utc | 192

is this smoothie himself talking here??
There Is Something About Germany

Posted by: james | Dec 16 2022 4:51 utc | 193

@ psychohistorian 145
Might makes right means that political skills prevail over intellectual skills. Serving the powerful enables someone to change the intellectual environment.
In practice , serving the powerful only re-inforces the errors of the powerful and never in fact enables change.
Those who served MI6 and CIA against Saddam in Kurdistan are still merely climbing up the silken thread extruded by the spiders of Western would-be hegemony.
Zelensky is an example of the same principle.
Only Right can make Might. The reason being
that the hearts of man/ womankind drive their actions. No amount of political power or propaganda power can have shift seekers after Truth. Rendition-torture– chemical brainwashing can shift logic and ideology, but no chemical can poison the heart/ soul of a human being.
We live in an age in which political reality is shaped by Lithium. If anybody disagrees with prevailing mores they get zapped by medication until they conform.
This is pure Fascism, masquerading as freedom.
Poorer countries that do not have access to Lithium medication might be openly Fascist, but still retain individuality of thought. While richer countries like the West and now including China that require popular conformity, will attempt to brainwash dissent through asylum medication.
If salt loses its flavour, with what will you salt it. It seems perfectly obvious to me that enforced conformity will eradicate the dissent that is needed to make successful decisions. Blair blotting out all dissent led to one of the greatest errors of our long lives, the War on Islam.
Might is therefore intrinsically self-destroying. But the use of forces will always provoke a counter use of force, as we have with the Russian SMO in Ukraine.
Biden is like a broken spiders Web, with political clingers- on drifting into the atmosphere with no connection to any logical purpose.
In these circumstances Right Makes Right must prevail.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 16 2022 4:51 utc | 194

And one response:
What could work 50-100 years ago, in the form of an overconcentration of artillery across the width of the front, does not work and will not work in a modern war against a modern enemy. Such an overconcentration requires not only a huge number of guns in one place, but also thousands of tons of ammunition for them, since it will take hours to shoot from one position.
Shooting for hours from one position is deadly in the face of longer-range and much more accurate enemy artillery, which is able to reach many of our guns while out of range, and our archaically built artillery logistics system cannot provide enough ammunition even for the current number of guns. In addition, ammunition depots have to be dispersed and kept tens of kilometers from artillery positions in order not to expose them to missile attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
What is needed in modern warfare is not “volleys of a thousand guns merging into a drawn-out howl”, but high-precision means of destruction (guided projectiles, missiles and aerial bombs), as well as, as it was rightly said, the speed of interaction of means of guidance and destruction. A fire mission that was solved dozens of years ago with 20-50-100 shells can today be solved with 1-2-5 guided shells.
Artillery preparation, which previously required hundreds of guns, thousands of tons of shells and hours of time, must now be carried out in several minutes with the help of several batteries. All this saves the resource of barrels and vehicles, reduces the risk of falling under counter-battery fire, significantly reduces the required number of ammunition storage sites and personnel serving this, freeing up people and equipment for other tasks.
It is not just a matter of developing an approach to the conduct of hostilities that has already taken place, but of the need for its radical revision, otherwise any tasks set will be inaccessible.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/25107

Posted by: Down South | Dec 16 2022 4:52 utc | 195

@ Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 16 2022 4:24 utc | 183
Wish I’ve something better to say but it fills in the ditches.
🙁

Posted by: Forest | Dec 16 2022 4:53 utc | 196

Why are the Armed Forces of Ukraine shelling Donetsk? 
The shelling of Donetsk intensifies when the “allied” (Can be called “Russian forces” now) forces—the People’s Militia of the LDPR and the Russian army—successfully storm one or another settlement in the Donbass.
The tactics of the Russian army are as follows: it concentrates in one place almost all available artillery, which can sometimes exceed the Ukrainian one by 10 times. It is being transferred from other sectors of the front. As a result, Russian artillery smashes Ukrainian positions with massive shelling, the Ukrainians retreat, and we take the settlement we needed.
That’s how it happened in the summer when we stormed Severodonetsk and Lisichansk. Then Donetsk and other areas in the DPR, from which most of the artillery (including the one used for counter-battery combat) was taken to the LPR to storm the cities, also began to be shelled very intensively.
Ukraine did this in order to force Russian troops to transfer artillery back.
from the front back to Donetsk for counter-battery combat.
and thereby reduce artillery strikes on Ukrainian positions.
Today the “allied forces” are storming Artemovsk (Bakhmut). The tactic is the same: a wall of fire. Therefore, all Donetsk artillery is again concentrated there. And the Ukrainians shell Donetsk every day to raise a wave of indignation in Russian society.
The calculation is that, under the influence of public criticism, Sergei Surovikin( commander of the special military operation) will return the Donetsk artillery back to Donetsk and force the counter-battery “response” to stop the barbaric artillery attack on Donetsk.
The problem here is that the main goal of this whole Special Military Operation was precisely the protection of Donetsk. But somehow it doesn’t look so.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/25119

Posted by: Down South | Dec 16 2022 4:54 utc | 197

Video in link

‼️🇷🇺 In six months, more has been built in #Mariupol than in #Ukraine in 30 years. #Russia

https://twitter.com/MaimunkaNews/status/1603423492757946373

Posted by: Down South | Dec 16 2022 4:59 utc | 198

Posted by: Forest | Dec 16 2022 4:09 utc | 178
Logic. If you send in conscripts and keep your fighters back, your fighters are wasted doing logistics and you’re just wasting your conscripts altogether. A more balanced effort at least would allow some effective fighting and continued supplies to the fighters. However, you only concentrate your fighters at the front if you think you can actually achieve something – which in this case isn’t the case. Ukraine should keep its fighters to the rear – not that it will matter once the Russians finally get there.
In the end, it doesn’t matter what Ukraine does – it will lose because it simply doesn’t have the resources Russia has. It’s that simple. If they could actually bleed Russia, it might be worth it, but because this is an artillery war in which, again, Russia has the advantage, that’s not going to work either.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 16 2022 5:01 utc | 199

Please provide the link that shows the number of Canadian mercs in Ukraine, it must be in your browser history.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 15 2022 23:24 utc | 109
As a matter of fact I do.
“>https://youtube.com/shorts/fMkYnqqlCD0

So Canada had 2% of merc losses in country 404 and was tied for 8th, not #1 (Georgia) as you originally claimed. Apology accepted.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 16 2022 5:07 utc | 200