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December 28, 2022
Ukraine SitRep – Counter Artillery War – Financial Disaster

Since the mid of the year it has become clear that the war in Ukraine is one that is mainly fought by artillery.

Ukraine was clearly the underdog in that fight as the Russian forces fired eight times the amount of artillery munitions the Ukraine could make available. The U.S. and some European dependents stepped in. Some 120 M-777 guns and a myriad of modern track mounted artillery systems were given to the Ukrainian army. Hundred of tons of ammunition were moved in. The U.S. and some allies delivered HIMARS systems that could reach beyond the limits of gun artillery.

The Russian military reacted to it. It dispersed its depots and command centers thereby limiting the number of targets for HIMARS systems. It also intensified its use of electronic warfare which took down the drones the Ukrainian artillery used to find its targets:

The electronic suppression of Ukraine’s unmanned aerial vehicles blunted one of Kyiv’s biggest advantages in the early months of the war. The Ukrainians counted on superior intelligence—largely provided by UAVs—to make their smaller artillery arsenal more precise than Russia’s own, larger arsenal of big guns and rocket-launchers.

But the Russians’ electronic warfare prevented those drones from navigating and communicating—and deprived the Ukrainians of the precision they were counting on. “The defeat of precision was critical to unit survival” for the Russians, analysts Mykhaylo Zabrodskyi, Jack Watling, Oleksandr Danylyuk and Nick Reynolds explained in a study for the Royal United Services Institute in London.

“The average life-expectancy of a quadcopter remained around three flights,” Zabrodskyi, Watling, Danylyuk and Reynolds wrote. “The average life-expectancy of a fixed-wing UAV was around six flights” and, “in aggregate, only around a third of UAV missions can be said to have been successful.”

Lacking real fighting capabilities the Ukrainian artillery switched towards easier fixed targets. In late November it again started to intensely bombard Donetsk city with artillery and missiles. As there are few military installations or even barracks within the city this clearly was a war against its civilian population.


'Western' map showing impacts in Donetsk city – December 1

Source: Live UA mapbigger
December 5

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December 18

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Russian language papers wrote about the civilian casualties caused by the carnage. The political leadership of the Donetsk Republic requested an urgent operation against the threat.

As the heavily fortified frontline makes it impossible to quickly break through and hunt the artillery behind that line, the Russian military moved to other measures. A special cell was created to wage the fight against Ukrainian artillery around Donetsk. More counter artillery radars were moved in. More satellite picture interpreters began to look for firing positions. Longer range counter battery guns also appeared.

Over the last ten days the campaign began to show significant results. Many of the recent daily reports from the Russian Ministry of Defense noted the results of this anti-artillery campaign. Here is yesterday's one:

Within the counterbattery warfare, one U.S.-manufactured M-777 artillery system has been detected and destroyed near Netaylovo along with its crew that had shelled residential areas in Donetsk. Another M-777 artillery system has been destroyed near Preobrazhenka (Zaporozhye region).

One Uragan and two Grad multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS) have been destroyed near Nevskoye (Lugansk People's Republic) and Seversk (Donetsk People's Republic).

Two Ukrainian 2S1 Gvozdika self-propelled artillery systems have been destroyed at their firing positions near Krasnogorovka and Prechistovka (Donetsk People's Republic).

Four Msta-B and two D-20 howitzers have been destroyed near Kupyansk (Kharkov region), Velikaya Novosyolka (Donetsk People's Republic) and Novogrigorovka (Kherson region).

Air defence facilities have shot down three Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Olginka, Guselskoye (Donetsk People's Republic) and Peremozhnoye (Zaporozhye region).

In addition, two Uragan MLRS have been intercepted near Kostogryzovo (Kherson region), and three U.S.-manufactured HARM anti-radiation missiles near Debaltsevo (Donetsk People's Republic).

And this one from today:

Within the counterbattery warfare, two U.S.-manufactured M-777 artillery systems, and one German-manufactured FH-70 howitzer, that were used for shelling residential areas of Donetsk, have been destroyed at their firing positions near Krasnogorovka (Donetsk People's Republic).

Three Ukrainian fighting vehicles for Grad multiple-launch rocket systems have been destroyed near Seversk.

Three Ukrainian Msta-B howitzers have been destroyed near Petropavlovka (Kharkov region), Berestovoye (Donetsk People's Republic), and Chernobayevka (Kherson region).

Ukrainian D-20 and D-30 howitzers have been destroyed near Georgiyevka and Maryinka (Donetsk People's Republic).

Another reports says that the reaction time between detecting and submitting target coordinates to active counter fire is down to two minutes. The setup and displacement time for a M-777 howitzer are each at least three minutes with a fully manned and well trained crew. When radar detects a firing Ukrainian M-777 the Russian response now comes in before the gun could be moved out.

The counter battery campaign can now be called a full success. The last Ukrainian artillery impact in Donetsk city was reported on December 23. The campaign will have to continue until the Ukraine runs out of guns. Up to now the Ukrainians fire still more ammunition than the 'west' can produce:

“Ukrainian artillery use, conservatively, is probably around maybe 90,000 rounds per month,” Michael Kofman, the director of Russian studies at C.N.A., a Virginia research institute, said last week on the “War on the Rocks” podcast. “That’s a lot more than anybody makes in the West right now. So all of this has been coming out of stocks, which is like going through your saving accounts.”

With less guns available on the Ukrainian side the need for new ammunition will decrease.

That is bad news for those Ukrainians who man the frontline trenches. The heavy artillery fire they are under will only intensify and increase their already very high losses. In some time and some places the lines will break and leave space for the Russian military to move through.

The current fighting is concentrated around Bakhmut/Artyomovsk. The Ukrainian command has thrown in reserves to hold the city.


Source: Military Landbigger

Under permanent Russia artillery fire the sixteen brigades currently deployed in and behind Bakhmut will be decimated one by one. It is a slow fight where the lines move only little by little in favor of the Russian side. But it is very effective battle in a war designed to demilitarize Ukraine. Due to very uneven artillery fight the Ukrainian losses will be many times higher than the Russian ones.

On the economic side the Ukraine has already lost the war. It is living off loans from 'western' governments it will surely default on:

The Ukrainian government has struggled to raise money on bond markets during the war and is paying investors more than it is collecting, according to a Central Bank statement that points to the country’s deepening dependence on foreign aid.

The economy has been projected to shrink about 40 percent this year, drying up tax revenue and indefinitely delaying previously planned spending that would have spurred growth.

The Central Bank statement, published on Monday, pointed to a less visible side of Ukraine’s financing shortfalls caused by the war: an inability to raise money on the market. Since Russia invaded on Feb. 24, Ukraine has not been able to roll over debt accumulated before the war. The country paid investors about $2.2 billion more than it collected in bond sales in that time, the Central Bank said.

All of that has left Ukrainian public finance, which has been wobbly at the best of times in the post-independence period, deeply reliant on assistance from the United States, the European Union, European countries that donate individually and other donors.

Even the U.S. controlled IMF is unwilling to throw more money into that black hole:

The budget passed by Ukraine’s Parliament for next year includes a deficit of about $36 billion. About half of the planned expenditures are for the army, the police and other military outlays. The deficit this year has run even higher, at about $5 billion a month.

The International Monetary Fund, which bailed out Ukraine through a long run of post-independence financial crises, has not continued large-scale lending during the war.

“They are worried about debt sustainability,” said Tymofiy Mylovanov, a former economy minister who is a professor at the Kyiv School of Economics. “If the I.M.F. is worried about debt sustainability and ability to finance, imagine what private investors are thinking.”

In contrast international trade with Russia has been booming this year and its financial numbers, recently mentioned by its president Putin, look better than those in the 'west':

First, the predicted economic collapse did not happen. True, we have posted a decline, and I will repeat the figures. There have been promises – or predictions or hopes maybe – that Russia’s economy will contract. Some said its GDP would drop by 20 percent or more, by 20–25 percent. True, there is a decline in GDP, but not 20–25 percent; it is in fact 2.5 percent. That is the first thing.

Second. Inflation, as I said, will be a little more than 12 percent this year – it is one of the most important indicators, too. This, I think, is much better than in many other countries, including the G20 countries. Inflation is not good of course, but it being smaller than in other countries is good.

Next year – we have mentioned this, too – we will strive for the 4–5 percent target, based on the economy's performance in the first quarter – at least, we hope so. And this is a very good trend, unlike in some other G20 countries, where inflation is on the rise.

Unemployment is at a historic low of 3.8 percent. We are running a budget deficit, this is true, but it is only 2 percent this year, next year too, then it is projected at one percent, and less than one percent in 2025: we are expecting about 0.8 percent. I would like to point out that other countries – both large developing economies and the so-called developed market economies – are running a much greater deficit. In the United States, I think, it is 5.7 percent, and in China, it is over 7 percent. All major economies are running deficits above 5 percent. We are not.

This is a good foundation for moving confidently into 2023.

When the war ends the Ukraine will have an incredible amount of debt that it will not be able to pay for in generations. It will have no more land to sell off to foreigners and no industry left that will be of any value.

The people who had thought up, designed and implemented the 'western' sanction war against Russia have done more damage to Ukraine and the 'west' that anyone had imagined. But they utterly failed to hurt Russia. They should all be fired for their demonstrated incompetence.

Comments

All that blather about Russia running out of missiles gets proven wrong every day. Telegram reports intense missile barrage destroying all manner of Ukraine vital military sites. Alice in wonderland bs.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 29 2022 10:11 utc | 201

@ DunGroanin 200
Spoon-fed lies. You must have been listening to BBC Radio 4’s poisoned iced mine pies by GCHQ head this morning.
We rarely publicise our information , while evil Putin ‘ controls ‘ it . Our values, unspecified, are rules-based ( we make the rules up as we go along) and we are sure ( for your own survival, hint ,) you would all agree with them.
They then proceeded to talk about Hereford Cathedral’s Mappa Mundi, which they claimed portrays a forgotten political narrative , like GCHQ, which they do not fully comprehend. I took that with a pinch of salt , because it’s same old, same old, global hegemony politics it always has been. Just depicted on calcified cow hide instead of a breakfast News programme.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 29 2022 10:30 utc | 202

Posted by: Orwellian Language | Dec 29 2022 5:16 utc | 169
I don’t really follow what you are saying. I completely agree that the power to create money should reside in government, and that the govt can and should spend money into existence, but that money has to be destroyed again when its purpose is fulfilled, otherwise the money supply just increases, leading obviously to inflation. Money created by the govt has to be destroyed by the govt – most obviously by collecting it in tax and destroying it (“paying back the debt” is a useful way of thinking about it in conventional terms), although there are other possibilities, like time-limited currency which are interesting but a bit experimental.

Posted by: Tim | Dec 29 2022 10:41 utc | 203

Danish Army Lacking Replacement Soldiers for NATO Mission in Latvia
Denmark’s defense capabilities have been depleted by numerous missions abroad, as well as massive military assistance to Ukraine, which forced the government to admit that the nation’s war chest is scraped bare.
In an uncomfortable admission from the nation’s own top brass, Denmark is apparently struggling to provide a replacement for its rotating mission in Latvia that end in the spring.
The 800-strong Danish battalion is part of NATO’s “deterrence mission” in the Baltics and was touted as the Nordic nation’s largest military deployment in decades. However, the mission which also includes heavy gear such as combat vehicles, has since run into difficulties ranging from lack of ammo and equipment to moldy and dilapidated tents(& underpants), which have been blamed on years of cuts in military spending.
“The size of the contribution alone has meant that a large part of the Army’s personnel has been deployed within the past year, and this means that we must have a period during which we can build up again,” Army Chief Major General Gunner Arpe Nielsen told Danish media.
The news comes as the Danish Armed Forces suffers drastic shortages, confirmed by several military trade unions. According to them, there is a lack of personnel in all fighting arms — the army, the navy and the air force — with some smaller units only having 50 percent of the required manpower and larger units lacking up to 30 percent of the manpower. According to a ministerial reply earlier this year, the overall staffing ratio in the Danish Armed Forces is 82 percent.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 29 2022 10:47 utc | 204

@ uncle Tungsten 188
‘ the Ukronazis have invited every fanatic from across the globe to come and die with them and with dignity in the mud of slavic Ukraine ‘
I cannot forget a clip of a displaced jihadist family in Syria, the father wearing eyeshadow and the mother carrying an unconscious toddler by one limp hand.
There was a beauty and dignity in their sincerity that was more powerful than the cynical political forces that had brought them there.
The word fanatic was used by the Victorian British to describe any their opponents in India from all convictions, not just Muslim. Those of their own who embraced Islam were labelled as having gone native, but the locals did not consider them as useful to their side, after their own countrymen had rejected them.
My point is that maybe we should direct our mockery to the Soroses and Admirals and Generals of USUKIS who have completely sold their souls to Empire, rather than to lost rebels trying to find a different road from the mainstream.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 29 2022 11:04 utc | 205

“The size of the contribution alone has meant that a large part of the Army’s personnel has been deployed within the past year, and this means that we must have a period during which we can build up again,” Army Chief Major General Gunner Arpe Nielsen told Danish media.
Posted by: Outraged | Dec 29 2022 10:47 utc | 206
Could we call it war LARP-ing? War as a sort of Movie?

Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 29 2022 11:20 utc | 206

My point is that maybe we should direct our mockery to the Soroses and Admirals and Generals of USUKIS who have completely sold their souls to Empire, rather than to lost rebels trying to find a different road from the mainstream.
Posted by: Giyane | Dec 29 2022 11:04 utc | 207
Indeed, they are a useless bunch of crooks, for sure, not an honest player in the lot.

Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 29 2022 11:25 utc | 207

Grasdackel | Dec 28 2022 23:14 utc | 114
Starlink counter-measure. The Russian are working on it. No other details yet.

The newest Russian complex will be able to detect Starlink terminals and provide coordinates for their destruction.
At the moment, it is known that we are talking about testing the complex, which received the name “Borshchevik”. A key feature of this type of weapon is the detection of the activity of Starlink terminals (accuracy reaches 60 meters), with the aim of subsequent destruction of such devices.
The maximum operating range of the Borshchevik complex is about 10 kilometers. At the same time, which is very remarkable, the complex, in all likelihood, intercepts satellite data, and thus accurately determines the coordinates of the receiving devices.
At the same time, experts note that with the cost of one satellite terminal, the use of high-precision weapons against it may not be appropriate, since the cost of the same corrected artillery ammunition and high-precision missiles is much more than the cost of a satellite receiver.

Подробнее на: https://avia-pro.net/news/v-rossii-ispytyvayut-unikalnyy-kompleks-dlya-borby-so-starlink

Posted by: Stonebird | Dec 29 2022 11:25 utc | 208

At the same time, experts note that with the cost of one satellite terminal, the use of high-precision weapons against it may not be appropriate, since the cost of the same corrected artillery ammunition and high-precision missiles is much more than the cost of a satellite receiver.
Posted by: Stonebird | Dec 29 2022 11:25 utc | 211

Yeah, but it isn’t just the terminal that is destroyed, it’s also all the manpower and other equipment around it, which makes spending one GMLRS rocket or a Krasnopol round on such a target a pretty good deal.
The bigger issue is the range is too short — only 10 km.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Dec 29 2022 11:37 utc | 209

@ Posted by: Orwellian Language | Dec 29 2022 11:21 utc | 209
Don’t Panic 🙀
https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/government-debt?continent=europe
Deficit is not debt.
Russsian debt IS increasing, indicating a healthy private savings economy for its peoples.
There is close to full employment and wages must be increasing. Insulated from the cartel induced inflation and interest rate spiral unleashed on us poor slaves of the west by the Ancient Bankers, who regularly rinse and repeat their act, to deprive us of our wealth.
The only answer is their decapitation, they are very few for the benefit of the rest of humanity.
We must join the Russians. Chinese, Venezuelans, Iranians, Syrians and the few others who have resisted the demands of the ancient bankers to join their fairytales of Money and pay tribute by keeping their peoples enslaved as all who live in the fake reality of Western Freedom- the freedom to be a pauper all your life.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 29 2022 11:37 utc | 210

abrogard @ 187
>To my mind it heralds a completely new kind of warfare, kinda completely electronic/robotic. How it might all work out I don’t know but I simply mean is couldn’t all bets be off, militarily, in view of that?
Which will be fine – until the robots decide to delete all humans…

Posted by: Hereward | Dec 29 2022 11:42 utc | 211

Seeing videos coming out of Bakhmut with units in combat speaking clear American English with one another while in AFU uniform. Their equipment is likewise indicative, as all are carrying very modern NATO small arms and equipment. Obviously the Russians know who they’re facing. Also seeing vids of the T-14 training in the SMO zone.
Posted by: liveload | Dec 29 2022 8:23 utc | 190

These are most likely not “mercenaries” at this point.
The mercenaries mostly bailed out once they got a taste of what real warfare is, and realized that the chances of getting killed are too high to be worth the pay.
So it’s actual NATO forces who are ordered to go there.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Dec 29 2022 11:42 utc | 212

Bautzen. Slav village in Germany.
Posted by: Passerby | Dec 29 2022 7:02 utc | 183

Spreewald region in the state of Brandenburg near Berlin.
Posted by: Nobody | Dec 29 2022 7:44 utc | 186

In the early Middle Ages, Slavs went nearly as far as modern day Hamburg and Niedersachsen, following Germanic tribes who ventured west and left large areas unpopulated. You find tons of place names ending in “-ow” in middle and eastern Germany, which are etymologically Slavic. That said, Germanic “east colonization” or re-settlement took also place in those days, displacing or mixing with the relatively few Slavs living there. Sometimes peacefully, sometimes not. Lots of movement of people in those days, basic historical knowledge though.

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Dec 29 2022 11:46 utc | 213

Dima says that Ukraine is preparing its winter offensive.
Can that be true?
Posted by: Kerensky | Dec 29 2022 9:23 utc | 199

Depends on what Dima views as an “offensive”. We are all left to speculate, yet, by all accounts, who is going to attack the allies and with what?
As we have seen with the Ardennen-offensive Mk. II up there in Kherson city, it was costly for the Ukrainian army, entering areas left to them by the allies … and then hitting the forecasted breaks at the river. Going by Ukrainian claims back in the day, they are already sipping tea in the Kremlin right now …

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Dec 29 2022 11:53 utc | 214

@ Bemildred | Dec 29 2022 11:20 utc | 208
Quite so. LARP-ing all the way. And far from alone. Cannot even deploy a single combat-capable 800 man BN as part of NATO’s “deterrence mission” in Latvia. Not even 800.
Same for Bundeswehr. Had to withdraw all 350 Puma IFVs & refurbish war reserve stocks of Marder IFVs from the ’70’s to fulfill their Jan ’23 contribution to NATO’s ‘High Readiness Reaction Force’. Hardly.
As discussed, RF has clearly accelerated & now highly prioritized daily destruction, not merely suppression, of AFU ranged indirect Fire Support (Tubes, rockets, mortars) so as to be able to combined arms tactical storm & overwhelm isolated entrenched positions. Destruction-in-detail, of unsupported positions, one by one, by superior force of arms. Minimal risk to massed troops/formations in preparation of/moving forward, forming up & actual assault, therefore RF losses minimal in comparison.
AFU will only lose more & more ground, steadily, no prospect of imagined ‘counter-offensives’. Once driven from their entrenchments, engaged in maneuver warfare beyond current lines, the remnants will be lambs to the slaughter. Alternately, progressive dice & slice into isolated unsupported pockets as consequence of rupture/breach of the line at Kramatorsk(?), if remain in static defensive positions. All whilst remnant logistical train & MSRs are severed & collapse.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 29 2022 12:00 utc | 215

Translated from Russian FYI, MOD Summary Dec28:
ПЕРЕХВАТ (Z) (Intercept (Z)) (Open/Public TG link)

Summary by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine (28 December 2022)
The armed forces of the Russian Federation continue to conduct a special military operation.
◽️ In the Kupyansk direction, more than 30 Ukrainian servicemen, three armored combat vehicles and two vehicles were destroyed as a result of the shelling of AFU units in the areas of Sinkovka, Timkovka and Kislovka of the Kharkiv region.
◽️ In the Krasno-Limansk direction, artillery fire hit four company tactical groups of the 25th Airborne, 80th and 95th Airborne Assault Brigades of the AFU, as well as the 103rd Territorial Defense Brigade in the settlements of Novolubovka, Nevskoye of the Lugansk People’s Republic, Terny of the Donetsk People’s Republic, as well as Serebryansk forest area. More than 170 Ukrainian servicemen, two armored personnel carriers and four pickup trucks were destroyed.
◽️ In the Donetsk direction, more than 80 Ukrainian servicemen, one tank, four armored fighting vehicles, and five vehicles were destroyed during the day as a result of fire and active action by Russian forces.
◽️ In the South Donetsk direction, units of the 72nd mechanized brigade of the AFU, as well as foreign mercenaries, were hit near the town of Ugledar in the Donetsk People’s Republic. More than 70 Ukrainian servicemen and mercenaries, five armored combat vehicles and two pickup trucks were destroyed. In addition, a Ukrainian Ukrainian Ukrainian Ukrainian SSU sabotage and reconnaissance group operating in the direction of the village of Vladimirovka in the Donetsk People’s Republic was destroyed.
💥 Rocket troops and artillery of groups of troops (forces) of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation hit five control points of the AFU in the areas of Dvurechnaya settlement of Kharkov region, Yampolovka, Kirovo, Artemovo, Novoselka of Donetsk People’s Republic as well as 72 artillery units in firing positions, manpower and military equipment in 97 areas. A warehouse with weapons and military equipment was destroyed near the settlement of Gulyaypole, Zaporizhia region.
💥 In the course of counter-battery warfare near Krasnogorovka settlement of Donetsk People’s Republic, two US-made M777 artillery systems and an FRG-made FH-70 howitzer were destroyed at gun positions, from which the shelling of residential areas of Donetsk was carried out. Three Ukrainian Grad multiple rocket launchers were destroyed near Seversk. Three Ukrainian Msta-B howitzers were destroyed near Petropavlovka (Kharkiv region), Berestovoye (Donetsk region) and Chernobaevka (Kherson region). Ukrainian D-20 and D-30 howitzers were destroyed in the areas of Georgievka and Marinka settlements of Donetsk People’s Republic.
📊 In total, since the beginning of the special military operation destroyed ((+?) over preceding 24hrs):
– 352 aircraft,
– 192 helicopters,
– 2,734 unmanned aerial vehicles,
– 399 anti-aircraft missile systems,
– 7,282(+15) tanks and other armored combat vehicles,
– 950(+3) combat vehicles of multiple rocket launchers,
– 3,737(+8) field artillery guns and mortars,
– 7,792(+13) units of special military automotive equipment.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 29 2022 12:13 utc | 216

But mainly I still think there is no real advantage in terms of stability in Western Ukraine for Russia to give it away. Mercouris talks again about Russia not wanting to tie up military and security resources in western Ukraine. Frankly, I think he and everyone else who thinks that way are wildly overestimating the western Ukrainians capabilities, even with CIA support, to threaten the overall stability of a Russian-controlled Ukraine, which is all Russia really cares about. The CIA insurgency of Ukraine after WWII is not today. Russia is in a far better position to deal with such an insurgency now than it was then based on better surveillance technology and better insurgency experience in Chechnya and Syria.
[…]
Basically I simply think the CIA isn’t going to be able to whip up enough of an insurgency – which is purely speculation at this point anyway – to disrupt Russian control of Ukraine vs those who it can. And I also think that if it did become an issue, well, Russia can always dump Galicia on Poland then. Why do it before it becomes necessary?
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 29 2022 6:06 utc | 176

This will most likely be remembered as a great war when it’s all said and done (and let’s of course hope it does not escalate to something even grander).
Great wars in Europe in the 20th century ended with large-scale population transfers. Lvov is not an Ukrainian city, it is a Polish-Jewish city, but now there are no Jews and no Polish people there. And vice versa, southeast Poland is the western part of Galicia and had a lot of Ukrainians. The process of ethnic cleansing started in eastern Galicia by the Ukranians as soon as the Germans rolled in and involved direct extermination, and was then finished on both sides of the border by forced population transfers once the war was over.
Who is to say there will be no analogous solution now too? Already millions left Ukraine, and self-sorted themselves — the pro-Russian ones went to Russia, the anti-Russian ones went west. I had been in fact expecting the Russians to finish off the grid a month ago, and trigger large-scale “voluntary” emigration of the pro-Western elements out of Ukraine, which would achieve much of the same effect, but so far they are still keeping it on the edge for some reason.
One can envision more savage methods too. Imagine we finally see the moment when there is nothing left of the Ukrainian army after it has all been ground down in the Donbass and the Russians are sweeping everything all the way to the Polish border. May we see scenes of the whole population being searched for Nazi tattoos and other paraphernalia, and then whoever is found with those is either shot or dumped into Poland and Romania, never to return?

In short, I wonder if there were any Chechens in the Soviet army during the insurgency then. Almost certainly today there would be. I wouldn’t want to be a Ukrainian insurgent in that case.

Chechens are a very different case. Ukrainians can only define themselves as anti-Russian, because there is simply nothing else to build an identity around. There is close to zero in terms of great literature, art, scientific accomplishments, etc. that they can claim as their own.
Ukrainians are also not a warrior culture. “Ukrainian” people as distinct from Russians have traditionally been peasants who worked the land, ate salo, and were bossed around by the Polish oligarchy that ruled them for centuries and/or by the Austrians.
The Chechens, on the other hand, have been a warrior culture for many centuries, and while their beef with the Russians has very deep historical roots, it is mostly about subjugation vs. independence. But warrior cultures tend to respect power, and once they get conclusively beaten, which the Chechens were by Putin, they may just as well join forces with those who gave them that beating. I think they also realized that they are better off inside Russia for basic rational geographic and economic reasons — an independent Chechnya would be boxed in by the mountains to the south and by a hostile Russia to the north. Zero prospects for development in such a situation. Much better to be prosperous and autonomous inside Russia while being subsidized by it, then to be independent, but poor and isolated. And, of course, it was made clear to them the latter would never be allowed regardless.
Still, it greatly helps that they had no need to differentiate themselves from the Russians, or from anyone else. Chechens are entirely separate ethnically, they’re not even Indo-European, let alone Slavic. There is nothing to fight over in terms of culture and language.
Ukrainians, on the other hand, are brainwashed southern Russians, who are thus brainwashed because the local elites decided it is better to be the elite of an independent entity than to be part of Russia. This goes back to the 19th century, with various minor local intellectuals first creating a separate identity.
Because if you are a literary nobody and have to compete with Pushkin, Tolstoy, and Gogol for fame inside Russia, you will forever remain a literary nobody, while if you are the founder of independent Ukrainian culture, they will be naming streets and cities after you for centuries to come, even though you are still the same insignificant minor author.
Then in the 21st century it was local oligarchs mortally afraid of Moscow combing back to pick up the post-USSR pieces in Ukraine too and doing to them what it did to their counterparts in Russia, who pushed radical nationalism into overdrive.
Again, because if you are to create a separate identity out of nothing, it has to be militantly anti-Russian.

Posted by: shadowbanned | Dec 29 2022 12:14 utc | 217

Translated from Russian FYI, MOD Summary Dec29:
ПЕРЕХВАТ (Z) (Intercept (Z)) (Open/Public TG link)

Summary by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine (29 December 2022)
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to conduct a special military operation.
💥 Artillery strikes hit AFU units in the areas of Timkovka, Kislovka and Berestovoye, Kharkiv Oblast, on the Kupyansk direction. More than 20 Ukrainian servicemen, two armored combat vehicles and three vehicles were destroyed.
💥 On the Krasno-Limansky direction, artillery fire, assault and army aviation strikes on units of the 95th AFU Airborne Assault Brigade near Serebryansky forestry destroyed up to 70 Ukrainian servicemen, three armored combat vehicles and five pickup trucks.
💥 In the Donetsk direction, Russian troops continued their offensive, which resulted in the occupation of new advantageous lines and positions. The losses of the enemy in this direction during the day amounted to more than 80 Ukrainian servicemen killed and wounded, four infantry fighting vehicles, three armored fighting vehicles and six vehicles.
💥 In the South Donetsk direction, artillery fire and active actions of Russian troops defeated Ukrainian armed forces units in the areas of Sladkoye, Vladimirovka, Pavlovka, and Velyka Novoselka of the Donetsk People’s Republic. Up to 30 Ukrainian servicemen, two armored combat vehicles and four pickup trucks were destroyed.
💥 In addition, two enemy sabotage groups were destroyed in the areas of Vremevka, Donetsk People’s Republic, and Levadnoye, Zaporizhia region.
◽️ Missile troops and artillery of troop groups hit four AFU command posts near the city of Kherson, settlements: Kupyansk, Novoosynovo in Kharkiv region and Gavrilovka in Dnipropetrovsk region, as well as 83 artillery units in firing positions, manpower and military equipment in 102 areas. Three artillery ammunition depots of the AFU were destroyed in the areas of Seversk and Artemovsk in the Donetsk People’s Republic and Stepnoye in the Zaporozhye region.
◽️ Two U.S.-made M777 artillery systems were destroyed during counterbattery operations near the village of Kruglyakovka, Kharkiv Oblast. Near Kostyantynivka, Donetsk People’s Republic, a US-made HIMARS multiple-launch rocket launcher was uncovered and destroyed. An Msta-B howitzer was destroyed in Seversk, Donetsk People’s Republic, and D-20 and D-30 howitzers were destroyed near Ivanovka, Donetsk People’s Republic, and Orekhov, Zaporozhye Oblast.
◽️ Fighter aircraft of the Russian Air Force shot down Su-25 and Su-24 aircraft of the air forces of Ukraine in the areas of settlements Krasny Liman and Kramatorsk. In addition, two Ukrainian Mi-8 helicopters were shot down in the areas of Suvorov and Orlovka of the Donetsk People’s Republic.
◽️ Air defence forces shot down seven Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles in the areas of Pshenichne, Kremenna, Chervona Dibrova and Koshelevka in the Luhansk People’s Republic, Kirillovka in the Donetsk People’s Republic, and Lyubimovka in the Kherson region during the day. In addition, four HIMARS and Uragan multiple rocket launchers were intercepted in the areas of Popasna, Luhansk People’s Republic, and Peremozhnoye and Tarasovka, Zaporizhia region.
📊 In total, since the beginning of the special military operation destroyed ((+?) over preceding 24hrs):
– 354(+2) aircraft,
– 194(+2) helicopters,
– 2,741(+3) unmanned aerial vehicles,
– 399 anti-aircraft missile systems,
– 7296(+14) tanks and other armored combat vehicles,
– 953 multiple rocket launcher combat vehicles,
– 3,742(+5) field artillery guns and mortars,
– 7,810(+18) pieces of special military automotive equipment.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 29 2022 12:22 utc | 218

Translated from Russian FYI, SITREP Summary Dec29:
ПЕРЕХВАТ (Z) (Intercept (Z)) (Open/Public TG link)
(Seven(7) referenced Situ maps at link)

Frontline report for the morning of 29.12.2022⚡️
Russian artillery intensified in the Zaporizhzhya direction. Strikes on Plavnya and Kamensky. This is in the direction of highway M-18, which leads to Melitopol. To the east, Shcherbakov, Novoandreyevka, Novodanilovka, Malaya Tokmachka and Belogorie were shelled. The AFU responded with a missile strike on Tokmak. More than once. There is an airfield and an important logistic center of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. (Fig. 1)
In the Ugledar sector, apart from the town itself, Russian troops struck Bolshaya Novoselka, Prechistovka and Zolotaya Niva. In the area of the last of these settlements they tried to move on the ground. The goal was to reach the roadblock. (Fig. 2)
There are no significant changes on the Donetsk front. The Russian army attacks Novomikhailovka for the umpteenth time. There is fierce fighting in the city limits of Marinka. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are holding their ground. The Russian Armed Forces made further attempts to attack Nevelskoye, Pervomayskoye, Vodyanoye and from the direction of Opytnoye. (Fig. 3)
Near Bakhmut the same picture. The Wagner PMC is persistently trying to prove that its “music” is major. It conducts offensive actions in the direction of Kleshcheevka and from the side of the local Opytnoye. On the eastern outskirts of Bakhmut they try to attack the AFU. But to the north of the city, the Wagner PMC also turned on the “bandwagon” in the area of Podgorodne. That’s where the M-03 highway is. But it’s not a long way to cut off its section to supply Bakhmut. To the southeast of Soledar all the same offensive actions in the direction of Bakhmutsky and from the side of Yakovlevka. (Fig. 4)

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 29 2022 12:35 utc | 219

Correction : Outraged | Dec 29 2022 12:22 utc | 221
– 953(+3) multiple rocket launcher combat vehicles,
Recap last seven days, destroyed per day:
Dec23: 4 Arty 16 AFVs
Dec24: 2 Arty 15 AFVs
Dec25: 8 Arty & 18 AFVs
Dec26: 15 Arty & 9 AFVs
Dec27: 13 Arty & 18 AFVs
Dec 28: 11 Arty & 15 AFVs
Dec 29: 8 Arty & 14 AFVs
Comment:
Tempo & intensity of targeted destruction of AFU indirect Fire Support assets, has increased over previous five days.
Minimizes effect of AFU defensive fires in support of targeted isolated AFU entrenched positions facing, destruction-in-detail, by localized massed RF combined arms assault formations. Concurrently minimizing RF casualties during such assaults.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 29 2022 13:39 utc | 220

If the Russian Federation does not spend more rubles than it taxes, the ruble economy will diminish, or, as we like to say, enter a Recession. The currency issuer deficit for the year is the currency user savings for the year. Predicted deficits, given the need to replace lost economic activity due to sanctions, are too small.

Posted by: Atown | Dec 29 2022 14:23 utc | 221

Tedious……..have to read Straits Times or source Asian news outlets to find Belarus had to down an incoming Ukie S-300 this morning.
Funny how it is not making the same kind of splash the one in Poland did.
Are they trying to provoke Belarus now with more asinine stunts ?

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Dec 29 2022 14:27 utc | 222

Why is the Bakhmut meat grinder the sort of battle that it is, and why do Wagner and Russian regular forces focus on bleeding enemy manpower over taking ground?
Simple, the AFU has deployed 27 brigades, 5 independent battalions, nationalist units, and Azov to the sector. This is a serious commitment which runs contrary to new Ukrainian claims that it is an irrelevant city. Having such a large Ukrainian force trapped in what is essentially a killing ground coordinated by Russian artillery and air assets allows Wagner and the Russian military to inflict horrific losses on multiple units simultaneously.
In short Russia is inflicting irreparable harm on a large Ukrainian grouping within Bakhmut, the city itself is important but ultimately less so than the systematic destruction of Ukrainian manpower and equipment. Take the case of the Ukrainian 93rd mechanized brigade for example, over the course of recent battles it was rendered combat ineffective and withdrawn.
https://t.me/cheburashkas_war_room/11258

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 29 2022 14:39 utc | 223

Who was that said “Only banks win wars”?

Posted by: Viktor | Dec 29 2022 14:39 utc | 224

@Orwellian Language #170 – Russia has a much different balance of payments position than the US. If you want to talk MMT, then you have to acknowledge the British economist, Wynne Godley. Russia has a substantial trade surplus, while the US has a substantial trade deficit. There are three sides to the balance: foreign, government, and private. For the private sector (includes workers) to have savings when the government runs foreign deficits, the government must run deficits, that is spend. Otherwise, the private sector would be in deficit. In other word, we’d be unable to save. I would think Russia’s working class doesn’t need the government to run deficits because the trade surplus is significant. But, I’m not an economist and haven’t studied the problem in detail…I think even Ms. Kelton acknowledges this sectoral balance approach…I haven’t read her book, but I’ve read her articles and books by Randall Wray and Warren Mosler…..

Posted by: zeke2u | Dec 29 2022 14:54 utc | 225

@Atown, #223 “If the Russian Federation does not spend more rubles than it taxes, the ruble economy will diminish, or, as we like to say, enter a Recession. The currency issuer deficit for the year is the currency user savings for the year…” You’re omitting the foreign sector from your analysis. Russia runs a substantial trade surplus, unlike the US with its’ trade deficit. If the US didn’t run deficits, then its’ private sector would be. There’s more than two sectors and all three have to balance, not just two!

Posted by: zeke2u | Dec 29 2022 15:11 utc | 226

Le Figaro

16 out of 18 French SAU CAESARs (155mm tracked SPH) are in need of repair.
The French edition writes that due to the high rate of fire, the barrels of the delivered SAUs wear out quickly. This problem is quite sensitive for the Ukrainian army, which does not have access to spare parts.
At a meeting with the French defense minister, the Ukrainian fighters said they wanted simplified cooperation and to be able to repair the Cesars themselves at home, instead of sending them to Poland for any complicated repairs, as this is time-consuming and exposes the self-propelled vehicles to unnecessary risk.
The article also notes that due to the complexity of maintenance, Paris also does not want to supply Ukraine with Leclerc tanks.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 29 2022 15:18 utc | 227

@karlof1
https://t.me/OpenUkraine/33320

29.12.2022
/Арестович переживает, что с уходом Путина с Украиной начнут действительно воевать, а не играть в договрнячки

(“Arestovich is worried that with Putin’s departure, they will really start fighting with Ukraine, and not playing into agreements”)
As I did not really understand what he talked or babbled (my language incompetence, sry), could you please translate?

Posted by: aquadraht | Dec 29 2022 15:27 utc | 228

Stonebird | Dec 29 2022 11:25 utc | 210
Thanks for that info. Interesting times for sure, with each side advancing their techs. I remember seeing the launch of a starlink cluster from my balcony about 2 years ago. At the time I had not heard about it yet and could not make sense of what we were watching… so much for “providing poor countries a reliable internet”. Everyone who is not totally blind could have known that this was at least partly a military purpose enterprise, but of course all friends and family I happened to talk to about starlink thought I’d be “conspiracy theorist”. I guess even now if they were confronted with the obvious military purpose it fulfils now, they’d think it was a kind of charity work at the beginning and only now its military usefulness only coincidentally was noticed…

Posted by: Grasdackel | Dec 29 2022 16:00 utc | 229

The claim that Ukraine is “losing two battalions per day is misleading”. It implies 1,000 to 2,000 soldiers which whilst plausible doesn’t take us very far. An infantry battalion usually comprises 3 or 4 “rifle” companies of maybe 120 to 150 men at full strength, a support weapons company (MHGs, mortars etc) and one or two HQ and/or supply/transport companies – and often a contingent of recce, engineers, AA etc. A western infantry battalion will have around 800 to 1,000 men. I doubt many UAF units enjoy such a complement at present.
However in all wars of this type 85% of losses are taken in the rifle companies – total maybe 350 to 600 men from the total numbers. And I suggest Ukraine is fielding units at the lower end of this scale.
To render a unit combat ineffective you don’t need to cause 100% losses – maybe 60%, probably less. I would estimate that 200 to 300 casualties on any Ukrainian infantry battalion would make it near useless for continued combat duty as it would reduce its “rifle strength” to around half or less. Its survivors would be veterans but by now these troops must be a small minority.
And really it doesn’t matter so much if troops are combat seasoned if you are sitting in a trench or bunker waiting for a 152mm round to fall on your head. They bleed just the same as green recruits.
Overall though I would say that the UAF have lost a minimum of 1,000 troops per day and possibly up to 2,000 per day on average over 300 days of war. Bearing in mind their current under strength units, continued loss rates at this level might eat through upwards of 5 or 6 battalions per day in the infantry platoons and companies, redering their parent units to all intents and purposes ineffective. But that might be two brigades a day…
Someone noted above the UAF has 97 brigades of 3 to 5 battalions each. That is a large number but the losses in the PBI will be severe and sooner rather than later they will run out of men, not in total but at the sharp end in the infantry. In fact it seems to me that the UAF infantry have performed well but I wonder now how many of its trained cadre remain and how many have died or are recovering from wounds? They might well be left with only really a scratch force plus a small force of mercs and veterans.
But as with much else in this war, the numbers are very opaque and everyone is spinning a tale. It might even mean that the Russian claim really means that they are in fact only inflicting c 600 losses per day. Who knows?

Posted by: marcjf | Dec 29 2022 16:21 utc | 230

Translated from Russian FYI:
ПЕРЕХВАТ (Z) (Intercept (Z)) (Open/Public TG link)

🇺🇺🇦 About the Bakhmut chaos among the units
A hodgepodge of units gathered near Bakhmut. South Wind and the Brussels Liaison write about the large composition of forces and means transferred to this section of the front, which indicates its importance.
Vladlen Tatarsky rightly points out that the loss of Bakhmut will not change the situation on the battlefield much, because the second line of defense has already been prepared. They will try to hold on to the symbol city, however, at the cost of heavy losses.
True, because of the desire to hold the city at any cost, things are no longer as smooth as they should be: confusion with the rotation, loss of control and communications have led to the logical chaos.
▪️Units of the Transcarpathian 128th Separate Mountain Assault Brigade, which had been transferred near Soledar, managed to leave four strongholds and withdraw from their positions. Low training, lack of motivation and loss of control and communication are all contributing factors.
The 17th Tank Brigade formations that arrived have not yet shown themselves in any way, and have already lost two company strongholds in the battles near Prigorodnoye due to a lack of coordination.
▪️ In Kleshcheyevka, combined detachments of the 24th and 60th brigades are trying to hold off Russian troops on the eastern outskirts of the village. In the past 24 hours, the Russian Armed Forces have established control over two more firing positions.
▪️ Units of the 93rd AFU brigade have been withdrawn from near Bakhmut to the Kiev region, but 143 men will be transferred to their place in the near future to reinforce the garrison. They will not play a special role, given the scale of the losses, but they will take their time.
▪️And in January next year it is planned to form a new unit with a total number of up to 500 people and send it to the Soledar direction for a counterattack.
▪️The transfer of territorial defense units from Kharkiv region in the north is leaving the line of contact with Belgorod region bare.
No one believes in the Russian Armed Forces’ attack from the north, so the Ukrainian formations care less about security at the borders than before. At the same time, they have equipped strongholds and trenches in the border areas, and mined the approaches and transport interchanges.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces are currently trying to hold back the onslaught of the Wagnerites and the LNR, hoping for significant losses and a reduction in their offensive potential. The main task of the Ukrainian formations in this massacre is to hold on to the politically important Bakhmut and wait for arms deliveries for the spring campaign against Russia.

Comment:
Why is this happening ? Because the AFU ‘Brigades’ are such in name & numbers only.
The trained & experienced Junior NCOs/Officers & Command/HQ Staff & NCOs have been KIA/WIA multiple times over, let alone the soldiers themselves, during last 11 months. This is what combat-ineffective means re continual, unsustainable, casualty rates.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 29 2022 16:25 utc | 231

Posted by: marcjf | Dec 29 2022 16:21 utc | 232
This is semantics and abstract theory. But it’s always a trade off.
You can create a larger army (in number of units) and have less replacements, or a smaller army and have more replacements. Ukraine has a large army compared to available manpower, so it inevitably leads to depleted units. In order to maintain “combat effectiviness”, they will need to reorganize, cannibalize and units, make 2 existing battalions one, 2 existing regiments into one, etc.
Their new manpower is not going into forming more units, it’s going to refill existing ones, and as far as I know they have had to create new units out of depleted existing ones, so those unit icons actually should be getting less on the map.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 29 2022 16:36 utc | 232

Posted by: TG | Dec 28 2022 23:04 utc | 113

… (western) ordinance.(sic)…

It is “ordnance” not ‘ordinance’

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Dec 29 2022 17:01 utc | 233

An ordinance is, most probably, some kind of hairdresser ?
Mmmm qué ?

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Dec 29 2022 17:03 utc | 234

This war is beginning to resemble the terminal phase of the U.S. Civil War, where the Army of the Potomac put the Virginia city of Petersburg under siege for ten months, finally breaking through the Army of Northern Virginia’s trenches after having stretched them to the breaking point and wrecking the South’s ability to support its military. As Russia has three times the population of Ukraine, so did the Union have three times the population of the Confederacy. As Russia has an overwhelming advantage in industrial capacity, so did the Union. As with the war in Ukraine, it took the Union a long time to find and promote competent military leaders like Sherman, George Thomas and Phil Sheridan. When these gifted commanders were in place, Grant was able to use a whole-country approach to waging the war, giving no respite to the South on any front, especially in the “West.” This “sifting and winnowing” of military leaders can take a long time in a country like Russia that has not been to war recently. Nonetheless, once those commanders were found, it changed the strategic prospects for both sides. The same will happen in Ukraine.

Posted by: William Verick | Dec 29 2022 17:27 utc | 235

Posted by: William Verick | Dec 29 2022 17:27 utc | 235
“This “sifting and winnowing” of military leaders can take a long time in a country like Russia that has not been to war recently.”
Say what? Ukraine and Russia have been at war since 2014!

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Dec 29 2022 17:54 utc | 236

The Ukies could not pick a better approach to assist the Russians in demilitarizing them. Pump troops into areas where they will be decimated by Russian firepower, again, and again, and again. The stupidity is astounding, and frankly sick, as they are feeding common citizens with almost no training into this bloodbath. It should be criminal.

Posted by: muttman | Dec 29 2022 18:13 utc | 237

Ukraine as an object lesson in how disastrous it is to allow yourself to become an imperial proxy. And the complete disregard the Empire will show to your final fate. The only way ‘Ukraine’ isn’t a likely hell hole for decades is if Russia absorbs the center and east, and Romania and Poland absorb the rest. No way any political entity named ‘Ukraine’ is going to be capable of handling the debt they’ve taken on, let alone have the capital to get the country back in a functioning state. Immolating their own state to serve unhinged Russophobia. The West is burning the Ukrainian ‘village’ to ‘save it’.

Posted by: muttman | Dec 29 2022 18:23 utc | 238

The stupidity is astounding, and frankly sick, as they are feeding common citizens with almost no training into this bloodbath.
Posted by: muttman | Dec 29 2022 18:13 utc | 237
“They” aren’t stupid, “they” are US, not Ukr. Ukr doesn’t exist since 2014. So far nato has almost zero losses (a few “mercenaries” dead) Russia has a few tens of thousands (Russian soldiers, Donbass militia, Wagner, civilians – that using only RU and Donbass official data). US probably was looking for +100k in first year but their weapons are crap and Russia had 100x more missiles than they expected. Next step is more terrorism and activation of Ze 2.0 aka Duda. He’s not mobilizing 300k for no reason.

Posted by: rk | Dec 29 2022 19:40 utc | 239

it isn’t just the [Starlink] terminal that is destroyed, it’s also all the manpower and other equipment around it
Posted by: shadowbanned | Dec 29 2022 11:37 utc | 209

Plus it’s capability to relay targeting information, potentially saving RF personnel and equipment.

Posted by: Gt Stroller | Dec 29 2022 22:26 utc | 240

@Exile 33
Does it matter? Russia has been demilitarizing NATO trained, equipped, supported, informed and commands troops from the beginning of the special operation. This process can continue for as long as troops are willing to commit suicide by entering the Russian grinders, irrespective of the troops’ origins. Projectiles, bullets, fire, bombs and missiles do not recognize passports and do not respect nationality.

Posted by: Hermit | Dec 30 2022 0:23 utc | 241

@Kerensky 199
Each UAF soldier is being outfitted with not one, but two feathers (they were originally intended to be eagle feathers, but as the USA has run out, chicken feathers are being distributed instead), with which to tickle the Russian forces to death. Training this week is focused on correct tickling protocol, “How to Tickle Your Troll”, as the UAF leadership has not yet determined how their troops are to locate and approach the Russian forces without being turned to mince in the slowly rotating Russian grinders, although the protocol has been validated as several Russian soldiers reportedly died of laughter just hearing about this. An anonymous UAF spokesperson explained that, “President Zelprikskvyy has made a penis promise that this problem will definitely be solved by Spring 2050, if not earlier. As President Zelkrazyy has never lied to anyone about anything, we expect total victory in the very near future.”

Posted by: Hermit | Dec 30 2022 1:20 utc | 242

I can and do access vk, have an account. Am happy to pass on anything there. I just searched for ‘karlof1’ but didn’t find it.
Top hit was a group ‘karlov stvor’ which I think is not you.
If you care to give me your moniker I’ll follow.
Posted by: abrogard | Dec 29 2022 7:31 utc | 186

His VK wall is under the name Karl Sanchez.

Posted by: David Levin | Dec 30 2022 2:37 utc | 243

It’s official: Western nations are being run by midwits. Is there nothing that their incompetence can’t ruin?

Posted by: The Davidtollah | Dec 31 2022 3:10 utc | 244

I will add something from Alex Mercouris (from The Duran) on YouTube:
Russia’s artillery includes guided missiles but ALSO unguided ones.
The media mock this as outdated. Is it? The unguided ones are fired by accurate guns. No need to use guided shells unless you really need to.
Meanwhile the U.S. manufacturers produce only guided missiles, which are far more costly. They scoff at the idea of producing cheaper ones. And the bought politicians agree. Only the most expensive stuff must be produced.
And that is why Ukraine is running out of artillery ammunition while Russia is doing just fine.

Posted by: Tenet | Dec 31 2022 9:44 utc | 245

About Poland:
They will gather troops and rattle the swords, but does anyone seriously think they’ll hold any Ukrainian land? Any president who sent Polish troops into a losing country, to have them killed for no gain, would be defeated at the polls.
Besides, Poland is tied by being a NATO member. Going to war in Poland means dragging NATO into it, and that’s not allowed. Talk about irony. If they weren’t a NATO member they could fight for, as they say, “our interests”.

Posted by: Tenet | Dec 31 2022 9:51 utc | 246

The fatal weaknesses of the American M777 howitzer in Ukraine battlefield https://www.defenceview.in/the-fatal-weaknesses-of-the-american-m777-howitzer-in-ukraine-battlefield/

Posted by: PaPa | Jan 1 2023 14:19 utc | 247

@Northern Eve | Dec 28 2022 17:34 utc | 19
The problem is that you believe that Marxism and other socialism methods are ehat you were taught in school by socialists. The only real purpose of socialism is convert a freer society into a more enslaved one. It is just a method of implementing communism. A government is totalitarian if one entity controls the money, the land, and the means of production. It can then assign any resource to any person or group whenever it wants, so nobody really owns anything.
Look at the historical socialist takeovers. They converted a more free society into a totalitarian one. Ancient Greek Democracies were taken over by Aristocrats using socialism. Julius Ceasor topled the Roman Republic to become the Roman Empire using it. The Russian Republic was felled by it to establish the Soviet Union. Look at today’s China. Look at Proverbs Chapter One to see that it has existed throughout written history.
What you are seeing isn’t socialism failing; it is socialism working as designed. Workers are becoming slaves. That is it’s only purpose.

Posted by: Barstool | Jan 2 2023 0:06 utc | 248

The fact that Russia is essentially the good guy, the Christian one, fighting to preserve its fundamentally Christian society, is key to Russia’s survival. Russia is fighting to escape, and eventually conquer, the globo-homo world in which a tiny demonic minority is working as a cancer to eliminate all Christian civilization.

Posted by: David Parker | Jan 2 2023 9:44 utc | 249

slaves. That is it’s only purpose.
Posted by: Barstool | Jan 2 2023 0:06 utc | 248
Too late; end of thread.
It’s “its”, not “it’s ‘”.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Jan 2 2023 12:19 utc | 250