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December 28, 2022
Ukraine SitRep – Counter Artillery War – Financial Disaster

Since the mid of the year it has become clear that the war in Ukraine is one that is mainly fought by artillery.

Ukraine was clearly the underdog in that fight as the Russian forces fired eight times the amount of artillery munitions the Ukraine could make available. The U.S. and some European dependents stepped in. Some 120 M-777 guns and a myriad of modern track mounted artillery systems were given to the Ukrainian army. Hundred of tons of ammunition were moved in. The U.S. and some allies delivered HIMARS systems that could reach beyond the limits of gun artillery.

The Russian military reacted to it. It dispersed its depots and command centers thereby limiting the number of targets for HIMARS systems. It also intensified its use of electronic warfare which took down the drones the Ukrainian artillery used to find its targets:

The electronic suppression of Ukraine’s unmanned aerial vehicles blunted one of Kyiv’s biggest advantages in the early months of the war. The Ukrainians counted on superior intelligence—largely provided by UAVs—to make their smaller artillery arsenal more precise than Russia’s own, larger arsenal of big guns and rocket-launchers.

But the Russians’ electronic warfare prevented those drones from navigating and communicating—and deprived the Ukrainians of the precision they were counting on. “The defeat of precision was critical to unit survival” for the Russians, analysts Mykhaylo Zabrodskyi, Jack Watling, Oleksandr Danylyuk and Nick Reynolds explained in a study for the Royal United Services Institute in London.

“The average life-expectancy of a quadcopter remained around three flights,” Zabrodskyi, Watling, Danylyuk and Reynolds wrote. “The average life-expectancy of a fixed-wing UAV was around six flights” and, “in aggregate, only around a third of UAV missions can be said to have been successful.”

Lacking real fighting capabilities the Ukrainian artillery switched towards easier fixed targets. In late November it again started to intensely bombard Donetsk city with artillery and missiles. As there are few military installations or even barracks within the city this clearly was a war against its civilian population.


'Western' map showing impacts in Donetsk city – December 1

Source: Live UA mapbigger
December 5

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December 18

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Russian language papers wrote about the civilian casualties caused by the carnage. The political leadership of the Donetsk Republic requested an urgent operation against the threat.

As the heavily fortified frontline makes it impossible to quickly break through and hunt the artillery behind that line, the Russian military moved to other measures. A special cell was created to wage the fight against Ukrainian artillery around Donetsk. More counter artillery radars were moved in. More satellite picture interpreters began to look for firing positions. Longer range counter battery guns also appeared.

Over the last ten days the campaign began to show significant results. Many of the recent daily reports from the Russian Ministry of Defense noted the results of this anti-artillery campaign. Here is yesterday's one:

Within the counterbattery warfare, one U.S.-manufactured M-777 artillery system has been detected and destroyed near Netaylovo along with its crew that had shelled residential areas in Donetsk. Another M-777 artillery system has been destroyed near Preobrazhenka (Zaporozhye region).

One Uragan and two Grad multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS) have been destroyed near Nevskoye (Lugansk People's Republic) and Seversk (Donetsk People's Republic).

Two Ukrainian 2S1 Gvozdika self-propelled artillery systems have been destroyed at their firing positions near Krasnogorovka and Prechistovka (Donetsk People's Republic).

Four Msta-B and two D-20 howitzers have been destroyed near Kupyansk (Kharkov region), Velikaya Novosyolka (Donetsk People's Republic) and Novogrigorovka (Kherson region).

Air defence facilities have shot down three Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Olginka, Guselskoye (Donetsk People's Republic) and Peremozhnoye (Zaporozhye region).

In addition, two Uragan MLRS have been intercepted near Kostogryzovo (Kherson region), and three U.S.-manufactured HARM anti-radiation missiles near Debaltsevo (Donetsk People's Republic).

And this one from today:

Within the counterbattery warfare, two U.S.-manufactured M-777 artillery systems, and one German-manufactured FH-70 howitzer, that were used for shelling residential areas of Donetsk, have been destroyed at their firing positions near Krasnogorovka (Donetsk People's Republic).

Three Ukrainian fighting vehicles for Grad multiple-launch rocket systems have been destroyed near Seversk.

Three Ukrainian Msta-B howitzers have been destroyed near Petropavlovka (Kharkov region), Berestovoye (Donetsk People's Republic), and Chernobayevka (Kherson region).

Ukrainian D-20 and D-30 howitzers have been destroyed near Georgiyevka and Maryinka (Donetsk People's Republic).

Another reports says that the reaction time between detecting and submitting target coordinates to active counter fire is down to two minutes. The setup and displacement time for a M-777 howitzer are each at least three minutes with a fully manned and well trained crew. When radar detects a firing Ukrainian M-777 the Russian response now comes in before the gun could be moved out.

The counter battery campaign can now be called a full success. The last Ukrainian artillery impact in Donetsk city was reported on December 23. The campaign will have to continue until the Ukraine runs out of guns. Up to now the Ukrainians fire still more ammunition than the 'west' can produce:

“Ukrainian artillery use, conservatively, is probably around maybe 90,000 rounds per month,” Michael Kofman, the director of Russian studies at C.N.A., a Virginia research institute, said last week on the “War on the Rocks” podcast. “That’s a lot more than anybody makes in the West right now. So all of this has been coming out of stocks, which is like going through your saving accounts.”

With less guns available on the Ukrainian side the need for new ammunition will decrease.

That is bad news for those Ukrainians who man the frontline trenches. The heavy artillery fire they are under will only intensify and increase their already very high losses. In some time and some places the lines will break and leave space for the Russian military to move through.

The current fighting is concentrated around Bakhmut/Artyomovsk. The Ukrainian command has thrown in reserves to hold the city.


Source: Military Landbigger

Under permanent Russia artillery fire the sixteen brigades currently deployed in and behind Bakhmut will be decimated one by one. It is a slow fight where the lines move only little by little in favor of the Russian side. But it is very effective battle in a war designed to demilitarize Ukraine. Due to very uneven artillery fight the Ukrainian losses will be many times higher than the Russian ones.

On the economic side the Ukraine has already lost the war. It is living off loans from 'western' governments it will surely default on:

The Ukrainian government has struggled to raise money on bond markets during the war and is paying investors more than it is collecting, according to a Central Bank statement that points to the country’s deepening dependence on foreign aid.

The economy has been projected to shrink about 40 percent this year, drying up tax revenue and indefinitely delaying previously planned spending that would have spurred growth.

The Central Bank statement, published on Monday, pointed to a less visible side of Ukraine’s financing shortfalls caused by the war: an inability to raise money on the market. Since Russia invaded on Feb. 24, Ukraine has not been able to roll over debt accumulated before the war. The country paid investors about $2.2 billion more than it collected in bond sales in that time, the Central Bank said.

All of that has left Ukrainian public finance, which has been wobbly at the best of times in the post-independence period, deeply reliant on assistance from the United States, the European Union, European countries that donate individually and other donors.

Even the U.S. controlled IMF is unwilling to throw more money into that black hole:

The budget passed by Ukraine’s Parliament for next year includes a deficit of about $36 billion. About half of the planned expenditures are for the army, the police and other military outlays. The deficit this year has run even higher, at about $5 billion a month.

The International Monetary Fund, which bailed out Ukraine through a long run of post-independence financial crises, has not continued large-scale lending during the war.

“They are worried about debt sustainability,” said Tymofiy Mylovanov, a former economy minister who is a professor at the Kyiv School of Economics. “If the I.M.F. is worried about debt sustainability and ability to finance, imagine what private investors are thinking.”

In contrast international trade with Russia has been booming this year and its financial numbers, recently mentioned by its president Putin, look better than those in the 'west':

First, the predicted economic collapse did not happen. True, we have posted a decline, and I will repeat the figures. There have been promises – or predictions or hopes maybe – that Russia’s economy will contract. Some said its GDP would drop by 20 percent or more, by 20–25 percent. True, there is a decline in GDP, but not 20–25 percent; it is in fact 2.5 percent. That is the first thing.

Second. Inflation, as I said, will be a little more than 12 percent this year – it is one of the most important indicators, too. This, I think, is much better than in many other countries, including the G20 countries. Inflation is not good of course, but it being smaller than in other countries is good.

Next year – we have mentioned this, too – we will strive for the 4–5 percent target, based on the economy's performance in the first quarter – at least, we hope so. And this is a very good trend, unlike in some other G20 countries, where inflation is on the rise.

Unemployment is at a historic low of 3.8 percent. We are running a budget deficit, this is true, but it is only 2 percent this year, next year too, then it is projected at one percent, and less than one percent in 2025: we are expecting about 0.8 percent. I would like to point out that other countries – both large developing economies and the so-called developed market economies – are running a much greater deficit. In the United States, I think, it is 5.7 percent, and in China, it is over 7 percent. All major economies are running deficits above 5 percent. We are not.

This is a good foundation for moving confidently into 2023.

When the war ends the Ukraine will have an incredible amount of debt that it will not be able to pay for in generations. It will have no more land to sell off to foreigners and no industry left that will be of any value.

The people who had thought up, designed and implemented the 'western' sanction war against Russia have done more damage to Ukraine and the 'west' that anyone had imagined. But they utterly failed to hurt Russia. They should all be fired for their demonstrated incompetence.

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Russia’s top diplomat warns Pentagon threatening Putin with assassination
MOSCOW, December 27. /TASS/. Statements made by ‘anonymous Pentagon officials’ about a ‘decapitating strike’ on the Kremlin essentially amount to a threat aimed at physically eliminating the president of Russia, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov revealed in an interview with TASS.
“The one who’s gone the farthest of all the others is in Washington. There are some ‘anonymous officials’ from the Pentagon who have actually enunciated threats to deliver a ‘decapitating strike’ on the Kremlin, which is in fact an assassination threat against the Russian president,” Lavrov clarified.
“If someone really has such ideas, then this someone should think long and hard about the possible consequences of such plans,” the foreign minister cautioned.
Moreover, Lavrov also recalled confrontational signals emanating from the West in the nuclear sphere.
“It seems that they have shed all vestiges of respectability,” he noted. “The notorious [ex-British PM] Liz Truss is a vivid example given that she directly and publicly said during her pre-election campaign that she was ready to order a nuclear strike,” the chief diplomat recounted.
“I am not even mentioning here the Kiev regime’s over-the-top provocations,” Lavrov noted. “[Ukrainian President] Vladimir Zelensky had gone as far as urging NATO states to deliver preventive nuclear strikes against Russia. This crosses the line of what is acceptable. However, we heard far worse statements from figures within the [Kiev] regime,” the foreign minister pointed out.

Posted by: Perimetr | Dec 28 2022 22:30 utc | 101

JustAMaverick | Dec 28 2022 16:37 utc | 1
The United States is a criminal enterprise masquerading as a government
EXCELLENT riposte to Obama and McCain:
“Russia is a gas station masquerading as a country”.
“Nice oil and gas industry you got there. Shameful someone were to come and (hehe) blow up yer pipelines”……
Posted by: ? | Dec 28 2022 17:02 utc | 5
Lol. The long existing “borders” of the “separatist” and self declared independent republics _ Luhansk and Donetsk _ are the “Sullivan Line”.
Ie Jake Sullivan.
The U$ …. The audacity never fails in its breathtaking chutzpah.!
Sullivan thinks he “negotiated” a “line” which just so happens to be the borders and territories Russia instigated the SMO to secure.
annie | Dec 28 2022 17:06 utc | 9
…sneaking suspicion part of the US plan has been the expansion of their current favorite Nato pet, Poland.
Yep. And Poland would be thinking they’ve suckered the U$ into supporting their long held lust for the “return” of Lvov.
Not understanding that when the U$ has indeed fought Russia “to the last Ukrainian”, Poland is the next in line…..(they think they can’t be used like that… because of their “specialness”…..)
annie | Dec 28 2022 20:06 utc | 56
“>…biden announced the new permanent US army headquarters in Poland in June …”
Yep. The Poles begged for that. To ensure Uncle Sugar daddy noticed, they proposed it be named Camp Trump… but that was then…. And all agree that little embarrassment can be quickly forgotten….
james | Dec 28 2022 17:35 utc | 21
I do hope you caught my little (and admitted lame) lines of doggerel drowned in the dregs of the last thread (😎)
>…Melaleuca | Dec 28 2022 15:45 utc | 558 (sorry, never mastered the link within a thread trick)
olaf22 | Dec 28 2022 21:34 utc | 83
“…Exercise African Lion 23 starts in January… and ends in —- June???
A *six* month “exercise”….
Yeah, right….
Cast:
Morocco, Tunisia, (neighbours of recalcitrant BRICS entrant, Algeria.
Senegal and Ghana.~ lillypads for covert action into independent minded – Russia Wagner employing – French kick to the kerb, Mali??
Chas | Dec 28 2022 22:12 utc | 94
>…Sell Galicia for rubles, with a caveat…
M8. The west is “not agreement capable”.
Greece has Soviet/Russian s-300s, which the U$ wants transferred to Ukraine.
Russia is reminding Greece of the sale contract that forbids this…. But the transfer will happen.
Pls take note of Lavrov latest – it’ll be a generation or more before Russia engages with the west…

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 28 2022 22:41 utc | 102

funny fact,
do you even know how far the east slavs settled? 🙂

Posted by: Macpott | Dec 28 2022 22:42 utc | 103

Posted by: Macpott | Dec 28 2022 22:42 utc | 102
west slavs sorry xD

Posted by: Macpott | Dec 28 2022 22:42 utc | 104

CNN is reporting that kremmina(eastern luhansk north of sverodonetsk) is being evacuated and the russian military command is abandoning it.
True? I don’t know. Haven’t heard it elsewhere.
Bar flies? Any word?

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 28 2022 22:43 utc | 105

Posted by: Oui | Dec 28 2022 22:16 utc | 95
The USA supply to ukraine of Lockheed M30A1 tungsten ball cluster munitions the so called ‘humane cluster bomb’, was made public in october. There’s been a few photos of vehicles with linked damage. But (coincidence?) the russians changed tactic, withdrew personnel as much as possible beyond range and turned rapidly to drone strategies and missile strikes.

Posted by: olaf22 | Dec 28 2022 22:44 utc | 106

Any agreement with anglos/NATO is not worth the paper it is written on. by now it should be clear even to the most ardent europhiles.
Anglos do not negotiate. they dictate.
Posted by: nothing but the trut | Dec 28 2022 20:41 utc | 64

Negotiations are conduced by the State Department, who control the proxy Ukraine. Who are these mythical Anglos in the State Department that you are speaking of?

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 28 2022 22:44 utc | 107

Brian Berletic
His latest at New Atlas was linked a number of times in the 500+ post thread…
But it still may have got lost in the Odessa the stressor dross.
EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH THIS!!!
Why is Russia Conducting its Special Military Operation this Way?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F89iypG7k8s

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 28 2022 22:46 utc | 108

About Zelensky’s attendance at Davos and contacts with BlackRock.
According to one source, Black Rock already controls about 6% of agricultural lands in Ukraine. Black Rock is also “advising” Ukraine on their economic strategies. No idea how much else they own in Ukraine, but I would think that any loans that Zelensky is seeking from Black Rock would be very risky unless Black Rock takes over some companies, some resources. Black Rock cares nothing about the people of Ukraine and nothing about money laundered back as campaign contributions. It would be dependent on how much of Ukraine is left after negotiations.

Posted by: Belle | Dec 28 2022 22:48 utc | 109

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 28 2022 22:41 utc | 101
Re Exercise African Lion 23
Yes. you got it.
Never look where the card trickster is pointing.

Posted by: olaf22 | Dec 28 2022 22:53 utc | 110

james @8–
2008 was a different matter that was predicted well before it occurred. What was really different was Obama broke a great many laws by not prosecuting the Outlaw Bankers and was never impeached for his outlawry. He ought to be rotting in prison along with several dozen major Outlaw Bankers.
The bubble now is far more massive than 2008, but the game has also changed as the Outlaw US Empire is losing control. The built-in inflation that began with Greenspan in the late 1980s cannot be solved by driving down wages as the Fed wants as the current Stagflation is a different monster than that of the late 1970s. Plus, massive amounts of dollars are flowing back to the Fed because of escalating dedollarization combined with the inability to sell debt at previous rates–the Fed is continuing to buy more and more of its own debt because it’s forced to do so.
Someone upthread noted that the on-hand stocks of arms and ammo represent already sunk costs, and that’s true to a degree. But what happens to your balance sheet when you transfer/gift assets to another entity? Your wealth decreases as your level of assets declined, meaning your equity also declined–You’re poorer. Congress has just voted for a $1.7 Trillion budget of which 50% or perhaps more will consist of borrowed monies, not revenues from taxes, etc. That further increases debt/liabilities and decreases equity even more, making you even poorer. Recall, the Outlaw US Empire’s government issued financial papers admitting its equity stands at negative $126.5 Trillion, which is even more now. Putin just said Russia’s total debt is just 2% of its GDP. That figure makes Russia a very rich nation in comparison to the Outlaw US Empire. And that difference–the wealth gap–will continue to widen as the Outlaw US Empire does nothing to increase its assets while massively increasing its debt. And all that debt being issued to Ukraine will never be repaid, although overall loses will be minimized when the amount promised isn’t delivered because there’s no more Ukraine to deliver it to.
What will happen to the little people? We see the stirring of responses from within Europe, although they’re being censored. We already saw a response from Canada from the truckers. It’s very hard to get a clear picture of what’s happening inside the Outlaw US Empire because of media censorship, although there’s a clear rise in murders and suicides. The Anti-Labor states are seeing a surge in factories relocating there, so demand for jobs is high despite terrible wage levels and dire lack of social services including healthcare. Other locales suffer because inflation in the housing market makes it hard for workers to live despite jobs being available. Where I live, we have a very hard time getting professionals like medical workers because there’re so few affordable places for them to rent or buy. (You’ll recall a month ago I said if I had the funds, I’d build 1,000 apartment units here and they’d all be rented before construction was finished.) So, workers either pay to commute or pay higher housing costs, both of which eat up what remains of discretionary income. (And I haven’t begun to add in health care costs or having/raising a child.) My wife and I know we’re extremely fortunate, but her kids that live with us are having a very hard time finding a place of their own to live–they will probably still be living here when I die. If you’re in your 20s, the West is not the place to be. If you’re stuck and can’t emigrate, you’ll need to become crafty/inventive while not smoking tobacco or owning a pet as finding a rental allowing either is very rare. Teaming with several others in a co-op seems the best plan, but that’s still hard to arrange. And I’ve yet to discuss the big drawbacks of suburbia that will soon become manifest. 100+ years ago, lots of boarding houses still existed that served to house the young and single adults. Those are now extremely rare, and empty-nesters aren’t as willing to rent a room as they were once.
Within the remnants of the Neoliberal West, life will become increasingly difficult. IMO, Europe will have the best chance at breaking free from Neoliberal Tyranny. Of the Empire’s other vassals, South Korea will also have its opportunity. But Canada, Australia, Japan, and New Zealand will be the last. How the timeline behaves is another question without a good answer. Much depends on when RoW arrives at its replacement for the dollar in most international commerce, while comparatively little depends on the outcome of Russia’s SMO to liberate Russians from Ukraine.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 28 2022 22:59 utc | 111

The super duper patriot looks a bit of a dead duck
https://eurasiantimes.com/a-3-million-missile-to-strike-a-20000-drone-experts-say-patriot-air-defense-missile-no-panacea-for-ukraine/

Posted by: olaf22 | Dec 28 2022 23:01 utc | 112

I really don’t know what’s going on n the Ukraine, at least, not militarily. But the idea that the Ukrainians no longer have precision targeting information is, I think, probably wrong.
The western powers have an astonishing array of surveillance equipment, well beyond any local Ukrainian short-range drones. They have satellites that are at least a generation ahead of the Russians in terms of resolution. And not just optical: hyper spectral imaging that can catch exhaust plumes from vehicles, and even difference mode terrain mapping radar that can detect new tire tracks in dirt. Electronic surveillance systems both inside and outside the borders of Ukraine. High-flying stealth drones, at least flying just barely outside the borders and I think probably flying over the front lines themselves. Seismic and acoustic sensors. And all synthesized and integrated with real-time battlefield reports and local intel, using AI assisted techniques. Sure the Russians have this tech also, just not as good and not as well integrated, I think.
I’m not saying that the Ukrainians will win, but that the western targeting information is a MASSIVE advantage for them. A Ukrainian just connects to a starlink terminal, downloads the coordinates, pushes a button, and there you go. That I think is why the Russians can’t maneuver (so far) – every assault is seen in detail before it even begins, and when it begins, the advancing elements are picked off one by one.
In my utterly unprofessional opinion, I think the only way for Putin to win is by COMPLETELY exhausting Ukrainians (western) ordinance. Super-targeting info can work even if you are outgunned, but not if you have no guns at all…

Posted by: TG | Dec 28 2022 23:04 utc | 113

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 28 2022 21:31 utc | 82 “Russia claims Ukraine is losing two brigades a day,”
In my opinion, your numbers @ 3,000 seem good. Even if you use the word ‘conscript’ to mean people called up early on in this war, they are not useless. Lots of people are needed to move supplies and repair equipment behind the lines.
I disagree that Ukraine insists on holding every inch of ground. They have retreated from places when they where forced to, only to fall back to the next more or less prepared line of defense. (Another use for conscripts somewhere behind the lines is digging holes under the supervision of someone with experience as to where to dig.)
As to the Russians saying Ukraine is losing 2 brigades day, in my opinion that is unlikely. That scale of casualties is way above any comparable war with similar force size and density, even after modeling in the increased lethality of the weapons employed. Don’t worry, I don’t believe the Ukrainian numbers for Russia either.
But who knows for sure. Models are wrong all the time.

Posted by: Bill Smith | Dec 28 2022 23:05 utc | 114

@112 TG
@starlink. starlink I guess is an advantage that the russians don’t have.
Any opinion on how that is countered @barflies?

Posted by: Grasdackel | Dec 28 2022 23:14 utc | 115

Hi there james @ 91 and Objective Observer @ 92
Thanks for your inputs. When first released I posted hit here on MoA. Tried reposting it from Rumble and no way.
Recently, Rumble and Youtube did not load for me and from what I read several who sought to access it..failed. 21 Century UK website ran the entire sequels on Rumble. No longer available. So there is censorship.
Btw, I am averse to giving a penny to Mr. Bezos. Some months ago he announced that planet earth should be returned to forest and humans live in outer space but may visit it (earth) as a tourist attraction.
What’s with these billionaires who got their start on taxpayers wallets and/or ends up an appendage of .gov?

Posted by: Likklemore | Dec 28 2022 23:15 utc | 116

Posted by: Likklemore | Dec 28 2022 22:01 utc | 89
thank you. potent. I can use it.

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 28 2022 23:24 utc | 117

Here is a revealing article about the sabotage/terror attack campaign inside Russia that America and an unnamed “European ally” are waging…..
The CIA is using a European NATO Ally’s Spy Service to Conduct a Covert Sabotage Campaign Inside Russia Under the Agency’s Direction, According to Former U.S. Intelligence and Military Officials.
https://jackmurphywrites.com/169/the-cias-sabotage-campaign-inside-russia/

Posted by: ak74 | Dec 28 2022 23:31 utc | 118

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 28 2022 22:43 utc | 104
>CNN is reporting that kremmina(eastern luhansk north of sverodonetsk) is being evacuated and the russian military >command is abandoning it.
>True? I don’t know. Haven’t heard it elsewhere.
>Bar flies? Any word?
Here it is.
https://t.me/milchronicles/1435

Posted by: hopehely | Dec 28 2022 23:31 utc | 119

Crap, man, wouldn’t it be funny if Zman pulls an Assad…..beers for tears….like Bibi the Nutter, talk about a sty in the eye…..and some people think his shelf life is limited ….careful of what one wishes.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 28 2022 23:32 utc | 120

Thanks b a nice overview of the state of play.
It’s all the top Money Wizards who are worried. They tied up Ukraine with high interest $ loans over the decade. Preferential debt. A lot of the magic money dollars created by the fed and spending in the US are going towards that. The Ukrainian populace don’t even get a whiff of them coming and going.
Elensky has been hanging out with the current day Cecil Rhodes , Fink of Blackrock, probably had an eye on a country with his name on it. A monarch of all he surveys and commands.
Let’s call it a Finkdom.
As for Russian minimal borrowing. They are using their mmt as it should be. They can afford a bit of wage inflation as their people achieve first world disposable income levels. They’ll all be middle classes soon!

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 28 2022 23:42 utc | 121

Yet another example of sanctions boosting Russia’s economy is provided by this transcript of the Launch of the Titan-Polymer Plant in Pskov Putin presided over. Again, details of how Russia’s political economy works are discussed within the overall discourse and are actually very revealing:

Denis Manturov: Thank you very much, Mr President.
You gave a separate instruction to increase production in small and medium-tonnage chemistry by 35 percent by 2025. This I can say that the industry is fulfilling the task at an increasing pace. Last year, volumes increased by almost seven percent, and this year we predict already plus 12 percent.
In fact, the sanctions imposed on our country by unfriendly countries, motivated our chemists to go deeper production chains even faster, master new niches in terms of basic raw materials for related industries, starting with the chemical complex itself, pharmaceuticals up to the food industry, various sectors of mechanical engineering, industry, building materials and radio electronics. In such a way In a broad reversal, we have updated the list of priority projects, specified the plan of import substitution.
To stimulate the development of new ones The Government has decided on tax preferences for this industry. It’s about applying a coefficient of 1.5 for expenses of the enterprise for research in the calculation of income tax. And in turn, on the part of the state in this four billion rubles were subsidized on R&D. As a result, almost 40 agreements on the establishment of production of previously unproduced products of small and medium-tonnage chemistry.
Based on the results of the study with the industry community, State Duma committees, Council We have allocated 22 food chains to the Federation. They will become the main priority to support production. critical import-substituting products. In the next two years, we will do this at the expense of a specialized federal project.
Besides we expect the majority of businesses will use the mechanism of the cluster investment platform, which you, Mr President, we have recently supported it. He will work from the new year. Among these projects – production, in particular, terephthalic acid. It will serve raw materials for the production of PET granules, including at the facilities of Titan-Polymer in Moglino. This is just one example of the production chains that we deploy to create our own raw materials. Base.
And I would like, of course, to take this opportunity to thank both the leadership of the region and the owners of the enterprise. There were different difficulties along the way, but common We are able to launch this project.
Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: Thank you.
Please, Mikhail Alexandrovich Sutyaginsky.
Maxim Sutyaginsky: Good afternoon, Mr President, Denis Valentinovich!
I welcome you to the opening of the plant “Titanium-Polymer”.
In 2019 Titan Group of Companies has started the implementation of this investment project to create an import-substituting production of biaxially oriented (biaxially oriented) film and polyethylene terephthalate, PET granules, in the special economic zone “Moglino” of the Pskov region.
Creating this production became possible thanks to the support of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia and personally Denis Valentinovich Manturov, for what Special thanks to the Export Insurance Agency of Russia, the Industrial Development Fund, Gazprombank, as well as the Government of the Pskov Region. At This scientific support of the project is carried out by the St. Petersburg Mining University.
The most important moment for us today: we we are launching the first stage of this industrial cluster. This is primarily production. BOPET films. I want to note that this is only part of this integrated industrial cluster, in which more than 10 billion rubles have already been invested. The second part is another 10 billion rubles, will be invested. Funding has already been received, and we have the opportunity to implement second stage.
We also plan to open an engineering center, where young specialists from all over the country will be able to work here, in Pskov Area, develop and produce new polymer materials, to develop the chemical industry of Russia.
We intend to implement this project until 2025. We have already created 270 jobs. More 90 percent are local, Pskov people. It is planned that with a full output of 72 thousand tons of film – these are two lines – we will cover the needs of ours, domestic 100 percent of consumers. See also at least 30 percent of exports. Thanks to the automated system process control we can to produce a fairly wide range of products films and we plan to develop more new ones types of films so that they can be expanded industry applications.
The technological process includes three stages. Extrusion phase: the initial processing of raw materials is underway. On it the so-called film composition is formed. At the second stage, the very formation of the BOPET film occurs through its transverse and longitudinal drawing. On the latter stage, when winding the film on the uterus to the required parameters, the film due to its automatic processing goes to the primary cutting. And from the primary cutting it takes on the number of cuttings that allows us to carry out metallization, lamination and other processes according to the orders that have already been received as applications for our production. That is, we plan that about 40-45 thousand tons together. with the CIS countries – we will completely close this market. We do not call it exports, because we know that for us exports are something that is not included in the CIS countries.
Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, I would like to note that that this is an environmentally friendly enterprise. We have 100 meters sanitary protection zone, the third hazard class, and 100 percent waste-free production. We are all waste that is generated in the process recycling, sent to recycling. And after Once we gain experience, we will still take secondary raw materials from the market for its processing – up to 15 percent.
It’s we have a programme with the government of the Pskov Region. Since we have done this project, we plan to continue here to develop low-tonnage chemistry.
Vladimir Putin: Mikhail Alexandrovich, what is this product, this film different from other materials of this kind?
Maxim Sutyaginsky: In general, the film is unique, Mr President.
First, in terms of barrier properties, there are no analogues in Russian production. For example, for foods in which it will be used, makes it possible to extend the shelf life of perishable products by almost 21 days. If the products are frozen – up to 46 months makes it possible to extend the term shelf life. That is, oxygen does not penetrate. inside and does not allow this product to deteriorate.
Also, its light permeability is the same as that of glass. Now we are working with the Mining University to ensure that we can It was to release the film – we now have intermediate results – when we save energy losses by up to 20 percent. But we want to raise this one. the bar is up to 40-60 percent, and in winter or summer energy saving will be up to 60 percent. We will produce less cold air conditioners or less heat, for so that you can keep the heat in the house.
With today’s experiment, we still have it. didn’t finish – as soon as we worked it out practice, including due to the material base that is in the Mining [University], we are already seeing this scientific groundwork and we hope we will achieve [of the result]. I believe that for our industry this is in principle very importantly.
If we talk about directions, then when we finish building the second stage, in aggregate it will give us unlimited possibilities in composites, in compounds – unlimited application.
Vladimir Putin: Mikhail Alexandrovich, what is good about the technology being implemented? What is its innovative essence?
Maxim Sutyaginsky: Vladimir Vladimirovich, this line contains the best achievements to date. Into one Passage we can do chemical treatment on film, we can do coronation, we can set new properties due to the pinning of the so-called chemical additives in this film, already reaching the specified parameters. And the fact that [produced] pointwise with fine-tuning, – we have here there is a special workshop where we can finish.
Today there are two manufacturers in the Russian Federation. But the possibilities to to produce eight microns, no one has, and 125 microns is the production range today Films. That is, this is the widest range, and this is the highest quality. We don’t have that quality.
Vladimir Putin: I understand. And the elements of state support, instruments of state support did you use this project?
Maxim Sutyaginsky: Of course.
First, thanks. for being in a special economic zone received all those benefits that today according to our state support has a zone.
Second, we got a great start from the Industrial Development Fund. We are at the start of this made it possible to do both design, and the order of equipment that is manufactured long enough. This initial support gave us the opportunity to start.
Of course, we collected everything along the way: the pandemic, all the sanctions that were in place. Denis Valentinovich spoke briefly about this. But with The support that was provided to us by the Ministry of Industry and Trade is difficult to overestimate, to be honest, because we are now implementing the following projects. We’ve got two more now. billion rubles of money for PET granules – a plant that we will start building from the new year. It’s very cool.
Then Export Insurance Agency to Us insured completely the entire loan, all resources from possible, as we understand now, risks, if suddenly something goes wrong somewhere – at least according to the business plan, which is planned.
Therefore, in principle, I am grateful to Gazprombank, because it was very prompt. worked in that regard. They also accompany us with the financing of the project for the next 10 billion rubles.
Vladimir Putin: All right. Thank you.
Please, Mikhail Yurievich.
Maxim Vedernikov: Good Day, Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich,
First of all, I want to thank you, the Government of the Russian Federation. The Federation, the Ministry of Industry and Trade for systemic support of our region and the opportunity to implement new projects.
The launch of Titan-Polymer is important an event for our entire Pskov region. This is an anchor resident, as already mentioned, special moglino economic zone, which will play an important role in the development of the economy of the entire region.
First of all, it is, of course, a significant investment: 10 billion invested, 10 is planned to be invested before the end of the project. These are high-performance jobs for our region, and this is also very important. 270 people the company is already working, and by the end of the last stage it is planned that the company will work more than 500 employees. Average salary – 43 thousand rubles, which is 14 percent higher than the average for the region.
And most importantly, tax revenues by 2025 will amount to 117 million [rubles] to the regional budget and about six billion to the federal budget. And after the launch of the second stage of deductions will grow many times by the end of 2030 will amount to more than 20 billion rubles to the budgets of all levels.
In the future, it is planned to create an industrial technopark, development related industries. This is very important – what you said – it will allow small and medium-sized businesses to be included in production cooperation and will provide additional support. about two thousand jobs.
All of it becomes possible largely due to the implementation by the Pskov region of an individual program of socio-economic development, as we call it for short – IPSER.
Denis Valentinovich Special words of gratitude to Manturov for his help in the preparation and defense of this program. It allows us to create the necessary infrastructure both here in Moglino and for housing construction. the ability to support large investments projects in agriculture. The Ministry of Industry and Trade helped us separately from its own funds significantly update the bus fleet of the region.
Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, IPSER is a key and effective development tool for Pskov region. Now the program is calculated until 2024 inclusive. I would like to ask instructions to the Government to consider this issue and extend it. it is valid until 2030.
It involves 10 regions with the lowest level of socio-economic security. Funding for the program is not that big for the federal budget, but as I said, federal the funds will be returned multiples in the form of tax revenues from new ones enterprises, and regions, respectively, will receive a powerful impetus to development.
Thank you very much for your attention.
Thank you very much again for your support and we We are still waiting for you in our region, especially since next year the Pskov-Pechersk Monastery will celebrate its 550th anniversary. You know.
Vladimir Putin: Thank you Great. I definitely will, for sure.
Maxim Vedernikov: Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: Denis Valentinovich, as about the sequel Program?
Denis Manturov: Vladimir Vladimirovich, in fact, I would like to fulfill the task that we originally set by 2024. In the Government, I mean 10 regions with a lower socioeconomic level of development than the national average. But some measures of course, it would probably be appropriate to maintain support.
I will certainly report to Prime Minister Mikhail Vladimirovich, We will consult, because even if such a decision is made, it is not for one region, but for all ten.
I very much hope and am confident that in 2024 we will get the desired result and switch to the normal mode. So give us a chance to work it out, we’ll report back to you.
But in any case, all those measures that are currently used by the region, they can be used after 2024. These are both development institutions and fiscal measures. Support. But we will work separately.
Vladimir Putin: All right. Consult with colleagues and then report to me the proposals.
Denis Manturov: Absolutely.
President of Russia Vladimir Putin: Mikhail Alexandrovich, please pass it on to you. word.
Maxim Sutyaginsky: Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich!
Now the production of BOPET films is ready for launch. Will you allow me to start the launch?
Vladimir Putin: Good afternoon. Let’s get to work.
Maxim Sutyaginsky: Colleagues, start!

Clearly, Russia’s import substitution and technological sovereignty programs are making great strides. Soon Russia will run out of workers as those neighboring CIS nations whose residents often fill migratory work in Russia will begin to remain as their home nations’s economies also expand as they also implement similar programs. One of the EAEU provisions is similar to that of the EU regarding labor’s freedom of movement. What we’re seeing being built is similar to the USSR, but it isn’t the USSR–it’s much better in a plethora of ways. Want to escape Western Neoliberalism? Go West or East Young People to Eurasia and learn Russian or Mandarin along the way.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 28 2022 23:43 utc | 122

TG @ 112
Ukrainians have access to NATO comms and tech assets but Russian advantage is that they have fewer contracters to deal with? One problem for ukraine has been trying to coordinate all the different types of donated arms and missile calibres. russia has said they have their sights on dual purpose usa satelites. They’ll be looking for some revenge for nord2, maybe. Some hefty hints that they are going for usa targets soon. plus the hacking options.

Posted by: olaf22 | Dec 28 2022 23:46 utc | 123

A page from an “amazing” new book called “Kyiv Rysing”.
Ukraine’s population to “catastrophically” shrink to 35 million by 2030, demographers predict.
Posted by: Oui | Dec 28 2022 22:16 utc | 95
seems to be something bordering on a scam or at least product of loony tune Kiev regime..
link purporting to lead to free download does not
earlier pages suggest just a compilation of urgings/propaganda from the usual suspects..
https://kyivrysing.kyivconsulting.com/

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 28 2022 23:48 utc | 124

https://t.me/milchronicles/1435
the way I read that is Kiev suffered and is suffering great losses trying to take the place.
Here’s my google translate of the last two paras:
According to the Military Chronicle, the number of soldiers killed and seriously injured in the brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Svatovo-Kremennaya area, after reports of a shift in the front line and the capture of Kremennaya, came close to 1,000.
According to another source of the Military Chronicle in the Russian Legion detachment, the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this area faced a shortage of heavy equipment and almost all combat exits are carried out on lightly armored vehicles MaxxPro, Cougar and Sisu Pasi. Vehicles receive critical damage from artillery and are destroyed along with the landing force.

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 28 2022 23:55 utc | 125

abrogard | Dec 28 2022 23:48 utc | 123
>…”Ukraine’s population to “catastrophically” shrink to 35 million by 2030, …
From the marathon Ukraine thread, the Ukrainian population is *already* well below 35m.
It hasn’t held a census since 2001…. For a reason…
A population of 25-27 million is more realistic right now, with an image of the road runner mid air, already over the cliff…⤵️⤵️⤵️

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 28 2022 23:55 utc | 126

One problem for ukraine has been trying to coordinate all the different types of donated arms and missile calibres. russia has said they have their sights on dual purpose usa satelites. They’ll be looking for some revenge for nord2, maybe. Some hefty hints that they are going for usa targets soon. plus the hacking options.
Posted by: olaf22 | Dec 28 2022 23:46 utc | 122
Yep. If Russia has any fifth column in NATO and USA it’d be working hard, I’d think, to urge the immediate sending of every piece of crap they can find to Kiev. All the more the merrier, literally. Increasing confusion, supply and training, maintenance difficulties for Kiev.
Plus as many supporting personnel as possible, too – for they raise the possibility of killing/capturing/recording them and destroying the prevailing narrative.

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 28 2022 23:59 utc | 127

My prediction for Ukraine’s 2030 population–0 as in zero. The state known as Ukraine will no longer exist.
It’s the end of another year and that means Lavrov’s being interviewed by major Russian Media. TASS was first, today it was Channel One‘s turn as Lavrov appeared on its very popular The Great Game program. The Russian transcript and video are available here. I’ve translated the transcript and made it available here.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 29 2022 0:05 utc | 128

Problem for Russia with NATO member Poland moving into Ukraine in any part, in any way, is the airspace. Wherever Polish troops go they have to claim the airspace above them. I don’t see any way Russia can let its no-fly zone red line be crossed. They may be the kings of red line back downs but this one Russia can’t back down on w/o risking losing the war.
Plus, I’ve mentioned this before, why would Russia want to make rabid arch enemy Poland bigger, more populous, and richer? The same goes for Poland’s frenemy Germany. That’s hypothetical on my part, maybe someone has a good answer? Mine is that The Empire sets the game board everyone else, Poland, Germany, Russia, deals with it.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Dec 29 2022 0:08 utc | 129

@ Belle 108
Before the end of the Ukraine cleansing, and the now unfolding global financial collapse, BlackRock will seek to unload and get out of dodge Alexandria, Ukraine for pennies on the dollar.
As per the Breibart’s article at link in my post:
[.] “Specialists of this company [BlackRock] are already helping Ukraine to structure the fund for the reconstruction of our state,” Zelensky, who had a video call with Fink in September, said in his evening address to the nation, according to Bloomberg.”[.]
A company that’s limiting investors’ redemption is in no position to structure “the fund for the reconstruction of a baby’s doll house.” I am taking bets that Mr. Fink will be looking to restructure BlackRock instead of skimming fees.

Posted by: Likklemore | Dec 29 2022 0:14 utc | 130

Reportedly, Russia claims Ukraine is losing two brigades a day, one in Bakhmut and one further north in Kharkiv region. So if the 97 brigades figure is correct (which I actually doubt), Ukraine will run out of men in 48 days.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 28 2022 21:31 utc | 82

The claim, at least as reported by Mercouris, was that Ukraine was losing two battalions a day, not brigades. A battalion is a smaller unit, likely well under a 1000 men in size, possibly only a few hundred.

Posted by: Mike314159 | Dec 29 2022 0:18 utc | 131

abrogard @ 126

If Russia has any fifth column in NATO and USA it’d be working hard, I’d think, to urge the immediate sending of every piece of crap they can find to Kiev. All the more the merrier, literally. Increasing confusion, supply and training, maintenance difficulties for Kiev.

For now Ukraine has been using mostly Soviet stuff which is close to all gone. Using all of ex-Warsaw pact Soviet gear plus what they could scrape up from western EU museums and press ganged countries like Morocco has been a free ride for USA and western Europe.
Now that current model weapons have to be sent the tab will start ballooning for the west. The first $100 billion was easy couch cushion money the next trillion or two or three will be on the backs of someone. Say goodbye to the EU social state and what’s left of the New Deal and Great Society, will it go without rebellion?

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Dec 29 2022 0:27 utc | 132

Posted by: Mike314159 | Dec 29 2022 0:18 utc | 130 “two battalions a day, not brigades.”
Typically 3 battalions plus assorted other units to a brigade.
The equivalent of two battalions, likely understrength, a day, is a claim that makes more sense.

Posted by: Bill Smith | Dec 29 2022 0:29 utc | 133

Very interesting article in Europe Reloaded:
https://www.europereloaded.com/special-forces-insider-the-cia-is-directing-sabotage-attacks-in-russian-territory/
The CIA via an EU Nato Partner has (apparently) been orchestrating sabotage in Russia. I am sure there is nothing surprising in that to most barflies.
The question is: ‘Has Russia activated a similar program in NATO countries?’ There have been a number of explosions in US facilities of late – e.g LPG terminals.
Something to watch.

Posted by: digital dinosaur | Dec 29 2022 0:35 utc | 134

Posted by: olaf22 | Dec 28 2022 23:01 utc | 111 “The super duper patriot looks a bit of a dead duck”
The Patriot is not a panacea, its just another system added on to the hodgepodge that is already there. Depending where they put it, and the type of missiles that it comes with, it could reach out over the front line at some point along it so that the Russian aircraft will be pushed back further from the front lines. It will need to be protected from attack by drones. Even now, if you look carefully at the pictures of Ukrainian S300 and other systems you will see they now come with assorted protection. I’ve seen accompanying MANPADS and cannon/machine gun systems to protect the bigger system against drones.

Posted by: Bill Smith | Dec 29 2022 0:37 utc | 135

][..] The max punishment for causing a lethal road accident in the Netherlands is 240h community service and 1 year revoking of the driving license (even if you caused it by not abiding to traffic rules). The reasoning of the progressive mindset that made this possible – supported by the majority here – is as follows: a) why ruin two lives when you can save at least one and b) a second chance in life is worth it as they can become a productive member of society again. […]
But. What about consequences for your actions? What does our society look like when consequences for actions, however inadvertently done, […]
Posted by: alek_a | Dec 28 2022 19:50 utc | 50
Perhaps Dutch policies are correct, or close too. First, the Netherlands do not suffer from a high rate or lethal road accidents, not as small as in Scandinavia, but in the second tier behind Scandinavia, like UK and Germany, half of the rate per 100,000 inhabitant that you have in Poland and less than a third of USA. Second, the legal priority of rehabilitation having priority over revenge is a good thing.
Given all that, there is a room for rational increase of penalties in this case, but I must stress, RATIONAL. Why Norway and Sweden have much lower rates of fatalities? Is it because of harsher penalties, or other reasons? Penalties are definitely harsher in Poland, so culture is very important here, and changing the culture is a delicate issue. Should you do it, how to do it etc.
BTW, my experience is narrow, but after few taxi rides in Brussels and in Holland, my impression was the Belgians, like Italian, are very skillful drivers, but in both cases, what they achieve is a bit terrifying. And I have seen nothing of the kind in Holland (no experience with other parts of the Netherlands).

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Dec 29 2022 0:42 utc | 136

karlof1 | Dec 29 2022 0:05 utc | 127
Thanks Karl for your labors.
It’s entirely my own obstacle…. But I can’t access vk.
Would perhaps one of the substack account owners here repost?
>Julian McFarlane?
> RSH?
>Or Karl… I know you’re invested in the vk… but have you looked into substack?
And Karl, maybe Larry Johnson might allow you a space on his site for all these primary Russian sources?
There seems to be an overlap of lurkers and posters between these two sites?
Larry’s readers seem a target market for the work you do… broadening access to the Russian perspective is vital, IMO…

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 29 2022 0:57 utc | 137

My local MP said on twitter in March 2022 that the more Putin seeks security, the less security he will receive. Obviously the political classes in Britain, business, journalism , solicitors , military were grifting when they recited those arrogant mantras and Mr Putin’s Russia has multiplied its global security, largely because of the high profile , orchestrated arrogance of grasping little men and women like Liam Byrne MP.
I get the feeling now that the 85% of the world that is outside US control is even more annoyed with the total supine subservience of the Western political classes than it is with the US reviving Nazism and bringing war to Europe, which has always been a beacon of stability.
The Nazis are, after all, just Soros brainwashed proxy terrorists. But nobody forced the Western political classes to be so gullible and greedy. They did it themselves in a spectacularly stupid way.
A middle class virus of constantly trying to better themselves at the expense of others.
In this way Russia has destroyed the Evil-Putin-aggressor chorus and would even gain respect globally if Russia took over the whole of Ukraine. There is after all, nothing God hates more than hypocrisy, people pretending to look after the interests of others who are exposed as looking solely after their own pockets and self glory.
Biden is the canary, and the canary has just died.

Posted by: Giyane | Dec 29 2022 1:04 utc | 138

Likklemore | Dec 29 2022 0:14 utc | 129
>…Blackrock.
Whatever conversations The Kokaine Komedian of Kiev had in September is void.
That was before Russia began its relentless bombing campaign and has literally switched the lights and heat off across the entire country at will.
Ukraine in Sept might have been sold as a “going concern”, now it’s a disaster recovery op.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 29 2022 1:07 utc | 139

@ abrogard 116
you are very welcome. Your adding to the information pool and the discussions is deeply appreciated.

Posted by: Likklemore | Dec 29 2022 1:14 utc | 140

Interesting article on Conservative Treehouse just published a little while ago, outlining how many BlackRock people are in the Biden administration guiding policy. It makes obvious why the US is involved in Ukraine – money for the elites, the multinational corporations like Black Rock, and international banks.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/12/28/here-comes-the-biden-family-syndicate-bank-account-deposits-zelenskyy-announces-blackrock-will-help-rebuild-ukraine/

Posted by: Belle | Dec 29 2022 1:18 utc | 141

https://asiatimes.com/2022/12/russia-winning-the-electronic-war-in-ukraine/
Russia may already be gaining the upper hand over the electronic war in Ukraine, knocking out the latter’s drones and potentially blinding its artillery.
In an article this month in Forbes, David Axe cites a November report by the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) that Russian electronic warfare (EW) capabilities have knocked out the majority of Ukraine’s drones, with the average lifespan of a small quadcopter drone reduced to three flights, and that of fixed-wing models to six.
According to the RUSI report, 90% of the thousands of drones Ukraine managed to amass before Russia’s invasion in February were shot down or crashed by summer, forcing Ukraine to request replacement drones and fighter jets from the US and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Axe also notes that Russia’s EW has blunted Ukraine’s intelligence advantages, which enabled its much smaller artillery force to punch far above its weight early in the war.

“In a May article for Forbes, David Hambling noted that Ukrainian artillery crews were using various drone models to deliver precise artillery fire against Russian positions, making the most of its limited artillery ammunition stocks by hitting critical targets to maximize the strategic effect.
This advantage may have saved the city of Kiev during the early days of the war. In an article this month for Insider, Michael Peck claims that it was mass fire from old-fashioned Ukrainian artillery that repelled Russia’s February assault on Kiev, not high-tech drones or anti-tank guided missiles.
But Axe says that as Ukraine’s drones are falling out of the sky at an alarming rate, this complicates artillery fire control, removing any precision advantage, increasing the survivability of Russian forces, and allowing them to reconsolidate for further offensive operations.

Posted by: daffyDuct | Dec 29 2022 1:19 utc | 142

Melaleuca @136–
Thanks for your reply. Julian McFarlane visited my VK, left a note and made a friend request. I replied and honored his request. I’m not aiming to increase exposure. What I provide varies widely in the amount of readers garnered despite having close to 800 friends. I find people are still blocked from accessing media like TASS. And there’s lots of material I discover that never gets posted or commented upon here or elsewhere. Global Times global opinion polls it just published are an example of something that would’ve made it to an Open Thread but didn’t due to time constraints. If I decide to do more original writing, I might consider substack or something like it. Currently, I do far more informational posting versus actual journalism or historical reporting. Thanks again for your support and suggestions!

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 29 2022 1:22 utc | 143

karlof1 | Dec 29 2022 1:22 utc | 142
Thanks Karl.
I’m just being a lazy spoilt grifter…. I can’t access your vk…. So I’m hoping someone will spoon feed me.
☹️🥲

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 29 2022 1:36 utc | 144

@ Belle 140 Thank you.
@ Melaleuca @ 138. You have a special gift for apt descriptors.
“”The Kokaine Komedian of Kiev”” should be given a Trade Mark.
re BlackRock. In North America it is said “BlackRock owns the world.”
Derivatives will be their undoing.

Posted by: Likklemore | Dec 29 2022 1:41 utc | 145

Posted by: Bill Smith | Dec 28 2022 23:05 utc | 113
“Even if you use the word ‘conscript’ to mean people called up early on in this war, they are not useless. Lots of people are needed to move supplies and repair equipment behind the lines.”
They’re useless at the front lines. Anyone not using artillery, armor or infantry is useless in this war. Logistics is necessary to fight but fighting is what actually kills the enemy.
“I disagree that Ukraine insists on holding every inch of ground. They have retreated from places when they where forced to…”
Did you read what you wrote? They only retreat when there is zero option and sometimes not even then. Retreating to a previously prepared line is still retreating. The point is they don’t do that unless they are in peril of being surrounded and sometimes not even then.
“Another use for conscripts somewhere behind the lines is digging holes under the supervision of someone with experience as to where to dig.)”
True. But depending on how much time you have to dig before the Russians come up on you is an issue. The fortifications in eastern Ukraine were built with concrete and steel and earth moving machines over eight years. Hastily dug trenches as a result of a retreat are not that effective against artillery, especially the thermobaric artillery.
“As to the Russians saying Ukraine is losing 2 brigades day, in my opinion that is unlikely.”
Over all of Ukraine, Ukraine has been losing one-third of a brigade a day for the last ten months. If you look at the Russian MoD reports, the 200-300 they report a day don’t include wounded. My estimate has been a thousand casualties a day for the last ten months. The recent fighting since the Kherson offensive in August has been much more intense as Ukraine has been throwing attack after attack and taking heavy casualties, up to 70-80 percent of many, if not most, battalions involved. There have been several battles where the estimate was Ukraine lost up to 10,000 men over three days which would be about a brigade a day.
As I said, the more men you pour into a kill zone, the more you lose. Also, Russian has reinforced its units on the front lines with another 150,000 men with presumably additional artillery and armor. This means over the last month they are delivering probably twice the firepower they had up to then while the Ukrainians have been pouring men into the kill zones.
“But who knows for sure. Models are wrong all the time.”
True. I tend to believe the Russians. They may leave things out from time to time, but generally I think they are conservative in their casualty estimates, rather than exaggerating them.
In any event, even if the Ukrainians are only losing one brigade a day, that just means they run out of combat-effective men in 100 days instead of 48. If they are still only losing a thousand men day, they run out in 200 days.
Their army will collapse long before they run out of combat-effective men, anyway. It just doesn’t matter what Ukraine does. They have to lose. It’s physically impossible for them to win or even hold out much more than six to ten months, if that.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 29 2022 1:57 utc | 146

Blackrock CEO, Larry Fink, last portrayed as a titan of money markets worldwide here, unfortunately, gratiously the DNC donors’ invitation to promote Uncle Volody’s $750B fundraiser pitch (“Advantage Ukraine“), capped at $135B.
Zelensky agrees to Ukraine rebuild investment with BlackRock

Zelensky previously spoke with Fink in September, and Kyiv also indicated some BlackRock leaders will visit Ukraine next year. BlackRock spokesman Marc Bubeck deferred comment to the company’s announcement of the memorandum of understanding last month.

Posted by: sln2002 | Dec 29 2022 2:01 utc | 147

Posted by: Mike314159 | Dec 29 2022 0:18 utc | 130
You could be right, perhaps I misheard him. However, that loss of a battalion a day has been true for at least the last ten months. Anyone reading the daily MoD reports can see that. The 200-300 they report was always just killed, not wounded. Adding in wounded always raised the figure to at least 500 and probably 1,000 which is a full battalion.
As I mentioned to Bill Smith, we’ve seen battles over three day periods where the estimate was Ukraine lost 10,000 men, which is about a brigade a day. I also pointed out that the battles have been become heavier and Russia has additional manpower, artillery and armor in the field for the past month, which will inevitably increase the body count.
As I say above, it doesn’t matter whether it’s a battalion, a brigade or two brigades. The only thing that affects is how long Ukraine can hold out. In no case is it going to be more than six to ten months, if that. They only have 200,000 effectives, if that. At 1,000 a day, which is the minimum they’re losing, that is 200 days max, and the army will collapse long before then. The mobilization drives aren’t going to help them.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 29 2022 2:06 utc | 148

“They should all be fired.”
IMO its most likely hanging that awaits them. Sure they may get Nuremberg type show trials, but what I think is happening is Russia and China are working to kick the USA out of Europe. Anyone tainted by association will get the same treatment that was handed to a prostrated Germany between 1945 and 1955: guilty by association.

Posted by: Menton | Dec 29 2022 2:17 utc | 149

thanks james, i would appreciate that.
Chas, ‘Galicia Poland’ could be demilitarized. it could be used as the ‘replacement’ area for parts of Poland(proper) used for Nato, sort of the way kosovo is nato-ized (even tho it’s not officially part of nato). i don’t know what they have in mind, i just have a feeling this is part of a plan. otherwise why would Ukraine’s army be ‘lending'(and losing) so many forces to battle in Ukraine.

Posted by: annie | Dec 29 2022 2:19 utc | 150

I understand why West wants war in Ukraine. I also understand why Russia must defend it’s borders and reduce Ukraine military.
I want to know what benefits that Russia would reap if War went on for five more years? What are those benefits? Can Russia sustain five more years of War? Can Russian people/Putin endure a yearly mobilization of 300,000-400,000? Can Russia afford a multi-year war economy? Are there benefits to a War Economy for Russian people. If yes, what are the benefits? If no, how much pain will Russian people feel in the middle of a War economy compared to NATO countries sending only money/resources? Can Russian elites/Politic endure a multi-year war?

Posted by: Ramsey Glissadevil | Dec 29 2022 2:23 utc | 151

Why is it assumed Ukrainian losses are catastrophic when the type of warfare precludes massive troop concentrations? Particularly when they can still manoeuvre in broad daylight.
The artillery grid pock marks clearly show targeting is inaccurate.
Trenches and cellars offer good protection, most of the WW1 losses were troops rushing fortifications, which is clearly not happening here.

Posted by: Johnycomelately | Dec 29 2022 2:26 utc | 152

İf Russia repels for good the Ukrainian army from the new Russian lands, it will signify that the west lost.
This is will be the failure of NATO first by also of Poland who ends up with 3 million refugees who can’t get back to a country with living facilités abd a drastically reduced young male population.
İn addition Poland will be asked to help in the reconstruction of what is left of Ukraine.
The polish will be the most affected by the defeat. İ expect decisive internal changes in the polish leadership

Posted by: Virgile | Dec 29 2022 2:26 utc | 153

Melaleuca #101 Poland is the next in line…..(they think they can’t be used like that… because of their “specialness”…..)
this is why i don’t think Russia wants it on their border and will always want a ‘buffer state’ (New Galicia).

Posted by: annie | Dec 29 2022 2:30 utc | 154

Posted by: Ramsey Glissadevil | Dec 29 2022 2:23 utc | 150
The Ukraine war will not go on for five more years. It won’t go on for more than another 6-10 months.
If you’re referring to the “war with NATO”, that is not a kinetic war unless NATO directly intervenes in Ukraine or attacks Russia directly.
If NATO attacks Russia, Russia will defeat NATO. This has been established by numerous NATO war games, and the results of a NATO-trained army in Ukraine. The question then would be how long would that take. My guess is not long because Russia would pull out all the stops. That war would not last five years either in my view – at least not without going nuclear and that is likely to occur much sooner than five years. So the economic impact on Russia would be determined by how much damage its industry actually sustained from Western missile and air attacks. Given the superior Russian air defenses, this is going to be less than Europe sustains.
Beyond that, Russia’s economy is in terms of its military-industrial complex is state-owned. As has been pointed out, Russia can ramp up military production with much less impact on the overall economy than the West can, at least in the short term. Given the West’s economic woes for the foreseeable future, it’s unlikely that the West, even the US, can ramp up production of military assets enough to match Russia over the next, say, five years.
So all your questions are essentially irrelevant. As I repeatedly state, Russia can not possibly lose this war, and likely not a war directly with NATO and the US unless nuclear weapons are used – in which case, all bets would be off, obviously and most of us won’t be alive to see the outcome.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 29 2022 2:44 utc | 155

Posted by: annie | Dec 29 2022 2:30 utc | 153
Ukraine IS the “buffer state”. Even if Russia takes over all of Ukraine as part of the Russian Federation”, that area is still not “Russia”. Russia will place military assets there as (probably several) Military Districts, just like they are doing in eastern Ukraine. Therefore that area will be as defended as Russia is.
But it will still not be “Russia” per se. When Putin talks about securing Russia, he means the present borders – not the future borders encompassing Ukraine.
And if he does, well, then Poland might be the next to go if they start anything.
Look, no one knows how Russia intends to finish this war with NATO – whether it will be economically or militarily or diplomatically. It’s impossible to predict. But giving a piece of Ukraine of Poland just strengthens NATO and brings it closer to whatever ends up being Russia.
So the basic decision in Russia has to be, “how far and not further?”.
It’s like the idea that Russia would stop at the Dnieper and then create a “buffer zone” of 100 miles or more to keep its territory out of the range of Ukrainian artillery. Well, as has been pointed out, you just get longer artillery! So Russia has to keep expanding the territory it controls until it runs out of Ukraine!
It’s the same with the idea of a “buffer country”. Eventually you either have to take over all of Europe or you have to stop.
Russia will stop at Poland’s border – at least until Poland tries something. It’s that simple. Russia does not want to start a kinetic war with NATO until NATO starts it. That’s simple, too.
Giving Galicia to Poland achieves absolutely nothing for Russian security interests. It just bring NATO closer, albeit insignificantly.
People need to think this shit through.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 29 2022 2:51 utc | 156

Why should they get fired, b? Look how much money they will be bringing in for those who really run the West, like whomever it is that BlackRock reports to…
https://news.antiwar.com/2022/12/28/zelensky-blackrock-ceo-agree-to-coordinate-on-ukraines-reconstruction/

Zelensky, Blackrock CEO Agree to Coordinate on Ukraine’s Reconstruction
The World Bank has estimated rebuilding Ukraine could cost between $525 and $630 billion
by Dave DeCamp Posted on December 28, 2022December 28, 2022
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and CEO of the US investment management company Blackrock, Larry Fink, held a video meeting on Wednesday and agreed to coordinate the reconstruction of Ukraine.
Zelensky’s office said that he and Fink “agreed to focus in the near term on coordinating the efforts of all potential investors and participants in the reconstruction of our country, channeling investment into the most relevant and impactful sectors of the Ukrainian economy.”
The World Bank estimated this month that it could cost between 500 and 600 billion euros ($525 billion-$630 billion), and the number could rise as the war drags on. Back in June, the World Bank said reconstruction would cost about 350 billion euros. Ukrainian officials have previously put the price tag for Ukraine’s “recovery plan” at $750 billion.
Zelensky mentioned his meeting with Fink in a video address on Wednesday and also announced that he would be attending the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos, Switzerland, in January.

This is a good test to see if they are incompetent. Blackrock is now assuming that there will be hundreds of billions for reconstruction but if most barflies here are right Russia is going to gobble up Ukraine making such reconstruction a pipedream.
I suspect what is going on is good old-fashioned creative destruction Capitalism 101 style. That includes mucho destruction of Western economies not just physical structures in Ukraine. Probably trillions to be made in the US and Europe with ‘restructuring’ (aka Reset).
I guess we’ll soon find out one way or another.

Posted by: Scorpion | Dec 29 2022 2:55 utc | 157

Posted by: Johnycomelately | Dec 29 2022 2:26 utc | 151
No one is assuming anything. Von der Leyen let slip 100,000, and the evidence all along is at least 500-1,000 losses a day, and the Mozart commander explicitly said 70-80% losses, and Ukraine has pretty much admitted they’re down to 200,000 effectives and that’s after they had seven waves of mobilization and training.
As for artillery marks, you don’t understand effective fire. Look up how artillery effectiveness is calculated. It doesn’t matter about trenches, eventually everyone gets killed or so numbed by the constant artillery explosions that they become ineffective. It just depends on how long the barrages go on. Read the reports from Ukrainians who have been subjected to it, including some of the western mercenaries. They all describe it as next to unbearable.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 29 2022 2:58 utc | 158

They should all be fired for their demonstrated incompetence.
Like hell, they are all inline for promotions for being obedient bureaucrats.

Posted by: circumspect | Dec 29 2022 3:06 utc | 159

PBS Newshour engaged in some creative sequencing today which I’m sure wasn’t accidental. There was a report (with lots of hyperventilating, self-righteous talking heads) condemning Nasty Putin for his ‘crimes’ in Ukraine, apparently inspired by Putin’s announcement that 4 regions in Ukraine “are now part of Russia.”
…immediately followed by…
…an anouncement by Bibi Netanyahu that “Israel” is planning to annexe some more West Bank to build 300 dwellings for Jews on land belonging to Palestine…

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 29 2022 3:22 utc | 160

(H/t: Oliver Stone’s docu-series –“Ukraine On Fire” If you did not view the documentary, too late. Banned and removed under censorship.)
Posted by: Likklemore | Dec 28 2022 22:01 utc | 89

It is viewable on Bitchute:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/l7n6nBoJ6nMS/
Or Internet Archive:
https://archive.org/details/ukraine-on-fire-documentary-banned-in-us-and-occupied-territories

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 29 2022 3:32 utc | 161

@Johnycomelately (37)
to spare NATO supply lines is probably still a political decision trying to reduce the danger of things spiraling out of control. I assume.
A wise decision considering the irresponsible hysteria around that ill-fated single rocket on some lonely field in Poland.

Posted by: AG | Dec 29 2022 4:17 utc | 162

They should all be fired for their demonstrated incompetence.”
Can someone please enlighten as to who ’They’ is/are?
Why are ’They’s crimes not punishable.
Are ’They’ above the law?
Who has the fire power over ’They’ to fire them?
Do we have any info on how many ’They’s been already fired? Maybe the process started already.
Are ’They’ the same as undefinable neocons?
How come ’They’ is defined by others pointing fingers, than, ’They’ themselves?
How come we can never find answers to these fundamental questions?
They, them, are coming for you…
Are you ’They?’

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Dec 29 2022 4:24 utc | 163

In the dark of night:
The monument “To the Founders of Odessa” is being removed in Odessa.
Vid:
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1608217824274653186

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 29 2022 4:34 utc | 164

In another report from HL last week, the numbers of foreign fighters (derived from a Russian gov’t report, in which it was claimed that the lion’s share of foreign mercs are Canadians, believe it or not), the totals did not add up to more than roughly a couple of thousand or so, if I recall.
Posted by: nwwoods | Dec 28 2022 20:54 utc | 73
Fake News:

Fighters from Eastern Europe and former Soviet republics still seem to “constitute the bulk of arrivals, with Poland, Georgia, Belarus, Latvia, Lithuania, and Romania among the most frequently mentioned in open sources as countries of origin

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 29 2022 4:43 utc | 165

Since the mid of the year it has become clear that the war in Ukraine is one that is mainly fought by artillery

I disagree with the point, that it just “has become”. No, Russia chose this path after testing several equally possible developments, and moved the opposition into this very corner which is the most acceptable for her. So, any Western strategists who are now deliriously preparing for their own war with Russia fought by artillery, might be in for a nasty surprise when the time comes.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Dec 29 2022 4:47 utc | 166

“… the US has been functionally bankrupt for decades. It’s only the petrodollar that keeps the US going. And our military/shakedown force.”
D | Dec 28 2022 19:19 utc | 41

_____
And those two pillars of American wealth and power are crumbling before our eyes. The inverted pyramid of debt, with derivative wagers included, is precariously balanced on a small fraction of its tangible value and productive capacity — dismantled and auctioned off by neoliberal parasites. Debt is now metastasizing unchecked like cancer, which can only end when it kills the host, as Michael Hudson put it.
And what a delicious, irony it is that the bankruptcy and military defeat the US in hubristic arrogance sought to inflict on Russia now threatens its own existence. Can’t happen soon enough to the reprobate neocons and moneychangers that control US policy — despite the pain its populace will suffer, including me and mine. The empire is an abomination that must be terminated for humanitiy’s sake.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Dec 29 2022 4:56 utc | 167

Zelensky in NYC, 1999:
https://twitter.com/debivice/status/1608317133150101504

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 29 2022 4:59 utc | 168

@ Melaleuca | Dec 28 2022 22:41 utc | 101
i enjoyed your poetic license on the tail end of the last thread! it was fun!
i am surprised you can’t access karlof1’s vk page… i wonder why…
@ karlof1 | Dec 28 2022 22:59 utc | 110
thanks karlof1 for articulating at length a response to my question.. i think you are right, although i don’t know how this will play out.. but, it is playing out as michael hudson has outlined with the money going to the fire sector and making it impossible for those on the ground floor to make any headway.. cost of housing is insane… apparently this is our high gdp – based off rampant speculation and pushing people out onto the streets, or people barely hanging on.. as you note, your wives kids may be living with you for the rest of your life… i wonder if this is going to take longer to play out then we expect? hard to know.. thanks for your posts..
@ annie | Dec 29 2022 2:19 utc | 149
supper with the 8 of us was a lot of fun! the only question she asked me was do i have netflix? we can get it if we want it, but don’t at present.. she wanted to invite me and another friend over to see some netflix show on zelensky! i told her i wasn’t interested, but i plan on sending her the video of ukraine on fire.. maybe she will watch it.. we didn’t talk about poland, but i suspect we will at some point..her mom is a fairly famous artist inside poland, but she is in her 90’s now.. i have seen her art works both at my friends place and on the internet, but can’t remember how to spell her first or last name or i would share it with you..

Posted by: james | Dec 29 2022 5:06 utc | 169

Listening to Putin’s speech worried me a lot but only when he started talking about economics.
Quoting Milton Friedman and sounding like Wolfgang Schauble with his Schwarze null ( black zero ) and Clinton’s deficit reduction.
Sounds to me as if he has been completely taken in by neo!liberal globalist vodoo economics.
There’s nothing good about boasting that the Russian deficit will be less than 1% by end of 2023.
That’s supadoopa austerity on a grand Scale thinking government finances are like a household. A profit and loss sheet.
Instead of what it really is. A balance sheet with assets on the left hand side and liabilities on the right hand side.
He clearly has fallen for the tax payer money myth and thinks taxes are for revenue. Fund the Russian government.
Not good not good at all. He might as well sign up to an EU convergence program and their spending and debt rules. In other words US colonialism. That were designed to asset strip countries who gave up their sovereignty and their ability to ISSUE their own currency when they signed up to the Euro.
Wolfgang Schuable schwarze null. Euro countries who do have to either raise taxes or borrow to FIND the funds.
Putin needs to wake up and realise he isn’t one of those and fully sovereign. Issues his own currency. Therefore, EU spending and debt rules do not apply.
Somebody better send Putin a copy of Stephanie Keltons book the deficit myth and quick.
Or just get Putin to Google – Goldman’s Top Economist Jan Hatzius Explains The World’s Most Important Chart.
It’s assets and liabilities Mr Putin, not a profit and loss sheet of a business or household. Taxes for revenue are obsolete you issue the Rouble for God’s sake. Unlike a household and business YOU don’t need to earn roubles. You issue it.

Posted by: Orwellian Language | Dec 29 2022 5:16 utc | 170

Ramsey Glissadevil@150,
I don’t have the same certitude about what a plausible timetable looks like the way RSH presents it @154, respectfully, but I agree that 5 years at the pace that this is currently going seems unsustainable for Ukraine, no matter any indirect assistance provided by its Western sponsors. Thus, to draw it out for 5 years would presumably necessitate a deescalation on the part of Russia, ergo some sort of provisional cease-fire. At that point, I think the biggest challenge would be a political one — political forces within the country would use such a cease-fire agreement to challenge the ruling elites, and they would have significant public support to do so. In such a scenario, I don’t think your follow-up questions apply, since the biggest obstacles would presumably revolve around political turmoil, while practical expenses relating to the unresolved conflict would decrease.
As RSH said, direct NATO involvement would imply an all-out war, at which one needs to consider the totality of resources that Russia can employ to counteract it — so that even a failure to resist NATO in a conventional war, inevitably leads to a nuclear exchange. Questions about the economy or sustainability of human resources matter very little at that point.
However, I guess one shouldn’t discount the possibility of the conflict gradually expanding to include other East European states, such as Moldova, Romania and Poland, without direct NATO intervention. Such a development would undoubtedly extend the time-frame further within the organizational framework currently employed by Russia — that is, without necessitating significant additional escalation. Supposing then that Poland joins the war on its own initiative and without direct support from NATO, just as Ukraine is about ready to give up the ghost, with Russia electing to continue fighting at the same pace, to be reinforced by Romania in much the same way when Poland is burnt out, one might be able to squeeze a few more years out of this scenario.
In theory, Russia could sustain decades of annual limited mobilization within the current format, going by the official numbers. Supposedly, they’ve tapped into 1,5-3% of their human resources and, evidently, with major exceptions made for students and professions critical to the functioning of the civilian economy. A second wave of mobilization would be very illustrative in determining the effectiveness of subsequent mobilizations, since the first wave uncovered organizational discrepancies which are meant to have been resolved as part of the process, and with both Russian and Western press focusing on the various problems at play, naturally for different reasons, the real picture of the process was in a sense obfuscated.
In other words, in terms of practical considerations and going by observation of a single imperfect sample, there are no obvious barriers to conducting limited mobilizations in order to sustain a conflict of this size in perpetuity. In reality, there are clearly other factors at play which would ultimately determine how sustainable such a course of action would be; in particular, the societal perception of the necessity of such a decision. The direct involvement of other East European states would alleviate that somewhat, but unless enemy formations are drawn onto Russian territory proper there’s always a certain tendency of seeing war participation as optional, at least to a degree. Judging by the degree to which civilians have volunteered their assistance to this campaign, there’s sufficient determination to see this thing through.
As for war economy, any development in this direction so far has been very restrained. Production of war materiel has been expanded, yes, but the expansion of social spending planned years in advance is still being carried out. In addition to that, unplanned social spending for expanding medical rehabilitation, military pensions and insurance compensation to the families of servicemen is also being carried out. If the economy is being strained by the conflict, it is very skillfully being hidden. Presumably, increased revenues from the sale of hydrocarbons are a major factor compensating for the additional expenses, which is why the West is scrambling to undercut it via price-cap embargoes. To that end, a continuation of these trends relies on developments on international markets, so the question of whether Russia can sustain its economy on this level for X years depends on more than internal factors. If nothing changes to any significant degree on the international markets or if prices start going up, which is likely, there are no apparent obstacles to maintaining or even increasing war production further, nor to maintaining or even growing the civilian economy.
If, on the other hand, the export cushion is taken away for whatever reason while the conflict continues unabated, the possibility of an actual war economy shouldn’t be discounted, at which point the government takes over the civilian economy to maintain production of all basic necessities. Could this be maintained for X years? When the other option is total economic collapse, military defeat, famine and pestilence, then naturally it can be maintained for as long as it is necessary to avoid that option. The resource base is there to do it in perpetuity, at which point the ability to sustain it will depend on developments on the front and the stability of the government. Make no mistake, this is an extreme scenario.
As it stands right now, the living standard of Russians compared to citizens of NATO countries has not been significantly impacted, and in a race to the bottom under the circumstances as they are right now, citizens of Western countries will fare far worse. Although, that has little to do with weapon shipments to Ukraine — emptying stockpiles doesn’t influence the economy in any significant way — so there’s no immediate barrier to the continuation of weapon shipments, other than their diminishing availability. At the same time, import substitution of critical resources previously imported from Russia will inevitably force economic readjustment in the West, as certain sectors become unsustainable, and even supposing that the West is able to substitute trade with Russia 1:1 with other producers, which is doubtful, the transitional period needs a delicate touch to avoid creating long lasting knock-on effects. At the moment, the West continues to trade with Russia to more or less the same extent, but through intermediaries who collect additional transit fees, which in turn are used to finance additional purchases of Russian resources and the expansion of their transit business model. This is unsustainable for Western economies in the long term, and since the resources for which they are being bled are ones needed for expanding war materiel production, the situation hardly lends itself to efforts at expanding material support for Ukraine.

Posted by: Skiffer | Dec 29 2022 5:18 utc | 171

Yes, Lavrov’s interview with Channel One is a long read, but it’s very important and touches topics not covered in Lavrov’s interview with TASS. For example, Lavrov is asked, “What will they [The Outlaw US Empire] do when Ukraine loses?” But as I expected when I read the question, Lavrov tap-danced around it, while also being honest: “You are baffling me. I usually try to think before I say something. And that, I admit, does not always work.” So, the one question perplexing many remains open and unanswered. However, there are enough hints sprinkled through the interview for us to form an idea.
And I see we have another concern troll. Sigh…. That’s one improvement that will happen when the Empire loses–the trolls will vanish.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 29 2022 5:49 utc | 172

Is it just me, or do the number of Ukie guns and other matériel reported as destroyed on any given day strike me as low for the thousands of rounds expended?

Posted by: Cato the Uncensored | Dec 29 2022 5:50 utc | 173

Lavrov announced, according to dpa news agency last night, that supply routes for arms deliveries in Western Ukraine will be “interrupted” or “entirely terminated”.
Lets hope this was made clear enough to NATO before.

Posted by: AG | Dec 29 2022 5:51 utc | 174

Lavrov announced, according to dpa news agency last night, that supply routes for arms deliveries in Western Ukraine will be “interrupted” or “entirely terminated”.
Lets hope this was made clear enough to NATO before.

Posted by: AG | Dec 29 2022 5:51 utc | 175

Moscow returns the “mediator” favour… Turkey took the role to broker the UN-Russia grain deal, and as a venue for Russia- Ukraine and Russia-U$ talks…
Today:
Trilateral talks of the Defense Ministers of the Russian Federation,
Syria and
Turkey were held in Moscow today
https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1608116137849389056
>…agree…need to continue the trilateral dialogue for stabilization in the region
> discussed the Syrian crisis and measures to combat extremists on the territory of this country.
[that would be the U$ backed Kurds] (+the odd sock drawer of “moderate” terrorists sponsored by the U$)

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 29 2022 5:52 utc | 176

Posted by: Skiffer | Dec 29 2022 5:18 utc | 170
Interesting comment, I tend to agree with most of it.
Relative to Poland getting involved, I’m listening to Mercouris speculate based on ONE Putin off-the-cuff comment about the history of Poland and Galicia, and Christoforou’s speculation that the Polish conscription looks like a civil administration call-up rather than a military call-up, to suggest the usual theory that Poland will take Galicia and Russia will allow it.
Christoforou acknowledges the argument that allowing that would bring NATO closer to Russia, but argues that, looking at the map, Poland/NATO wouldn’t be in a great position with Belarus hovering over them and Transnistria and what Russia controls in southern Ukraine below them, and therefore the risk to Russia wouldn’t be much worse than it is now.
I can acknowledge that argument has merit. I still think Russia won’t allow it. For one thing, as they also noted, it would temp Romania, Hungary and others to grab pieces of Ukraine, no doubt egged on by the neocons and NATO, and would irritate France and Germany. And I submit Russia wouldn’t be happy to see any more disruption in the region as a result of the war.
But mainly I still think there is no real advantage in terms of stability in Western Ukraine for Russia to give it away. Mercouris talks again about Russia not wanting to tie up military and security resources in western Ukraine. Frankly, I think he and everyone else who thinks that way are wildly overestimating the western Ukrainians capabilities, even with CIA support, to threaten the overall stability of a Russian-controlled Ukraine, which is all Russia really cares about. The CIA insurgency of Ukraine after WWII is not today. Russia is in a far better position to deal with such an insurgency now than it was then based on better surveillance technology and better insurgency experience in Chechnya and Syria.
In short, I wonder if there were any Chechens in the Soviet army during the insurgency then. Almost certainly today there would be. I wouldn’t want to be a Ukrainian insurgent in that case.
Basically I simply think the CIA isn’t going to be able to whip up enough of an insurgency – which is purely speculation at this point anyway – to disrupt Russian control of Ukraine vs those who it can. And I also think that if it did become an issue, well, Russia can always dump Galicia on Poland then. Why do it before it becomes necessary?
I also still think that people who think in this way are unconsciously concerned that Russia actually will take over all of Ukraine, and would prefer to see Russia prevented from doing so, even if they have a pro-Russia bias in other respects. In short, it’s one step from that sort of thinking to being a “concern troll.”

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 29 2022 6:06 utc | 177

Orwellian Language | Dec 29 2022 5:16 utc | 169
“>……Putin needs to wake up and realise he isn’t one of those and fully sovereign. Issues his own currency. Therefore, EU spending and debt rules do not apply.”
Yep. All the gratuitous advice Putin is offered here, day upon day, and he stubbornly and persistently ignores us all. Rude.
Sad, when we here, every barfly, is an international expert in military strategy and logistics… national financial strategy and economic development. And epidemiology, virology, quantum mechanics and … well.. nominate a field, and we have a coterie of commentators ready to go.
Oh. Here is (allegedly) the raw text of Putin’s dissertation for his higher degree in economics…
I say, “allegedly”, as Putin was definitely awarded the degree.
Western detractors become obsessed with proving plagiarism, and then the Atlantic Council published this: (Atlantic Council being worthless as a source).
https://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2008/08/putins-thesis-raw-text/212739/

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 29 2022 6:08 utc | 178

“those who it can.” s/b “those who think it can.” Proofread! Proofread!

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 29 2022 6:09 utc | 179

@176 Richard Steven Hack | Dec 29 2022 6:06 utc – “if it did become an issue, well, Russia can always dump Galicia on Poland then. Why do it before it becomes necessary?”
Now that’s a thought I had not seen before – many thanks.
You’re right of course that the “disposition” of Ukraine doesn’t have to happen all in one fell swoop, just to suit our armchair comfort. It can happen in many nuanced slices, over time, and with suitable motivation arising for each slice.
It can even afford to look awkward or unsatisfactory to us in the beginning…while time passes and shows hands for what they are, in their authentic strength.
Russia indeed must have multiple outcomes in its supercomputers, all branching from many trees. And Russia holds all the cards. With many combinations and side bets. It has not only escalation dominance but disposition dominance as well.
Good one.

Posted by: Grieved | Dec 29 2022 6:28 utc | 180

Why this article ?
Why now?
NS2 sabotage was seemingly conveniently memory holed….. but here is the NYT pulling off the scab….
🤔 Are they possibly trying to “get ahead” of something that’s about to break through?
Maybe something in the twitter files?
Or have they had enough time to pull together a “It was Russia wot dun it” Bellingcrap White Helmets MH-17 production?

The Nord Stream attack is mystery, asking how — in an era of surveillance, in the midst of an energy crisis, and with Europe on alert due to war in Ukraine — a vessel could creep up on a crucial energy conduit, plant a bomb and leave without a trace.

https://twitter.com/nytimesworld/status/1607958282643148803

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 29 2022 6:34 utc | 181

“They should all be fired for their demonstrated incompetence.”
Indeed, in a just society, such merchants of evil would be fired, if not executed. But that is not the society in which we live. Rather, warmongering elites ascend to new heights even as their delusional plans fail miserably. We are talking here about neoconservatives, whose political philosophy regards permanent war as a positive condition, so long as they are not personally involved in the fighting. This is similar to their Trotskyite predecessors, who believed in permanent revolution. Losing war after war simply means that new wars must be sought and provoked. Even the possibility of an all-out nuclear conflagration does not deter them from playing this deadly game.

Posted by: Rob | Dec 29 2022 6:34 utc | 182

2 hours ago LIVE UPDATES: Air Raid Warnings Issued in Several Regions of Central, Eastern Ukraine

2 hours ago Morocco May Be Involved in European Parliament Corruption Scandal, Reports Say

… Thus, the main suspects in the case, namely former parliament member Antonio Panzeri, former European Parliament Vice President Eva Kaili, and her associate, Francesco Giorgi, have allegedly been working for Moroccan lobbyists long before purpotedly receiving funds from Qatar’s representatives. Moreover, Moroccan foreign intelligence and counter-espionage service DGED has been recruiting the European Parliament’s members to influence the Group of the Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats (S&D) in the parliament since 2019, the report said.

Normalisation of Morocco-Israel Ties is Nothing to Be Excited About
09:49 GMT 05.04.2022 tps://sputniknews.com/20220405/normalisation-of-morocco-israel-ties-is-nothing-to-be-excited-about-1094493993.html

Morocco and Israel have had more than cordial ties for many years even before the recent Abraham Accords that also included Morocco among other Arab League states.

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 29 2022 6:55 utc | 183

Posted by: Macpott | Dec 28 2022 22:42 utc | 103
Bautzen. Slav village in Germany.

Posted by: Passerby | Dec 29 2022 7:02 utc | 184

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 29 2022 6:06 utc | 176
But mainly I still think there is no real advantage in terms of stability in Western Ukraine for Russia to give it away.
The Galicians are the ultimate xenophobes, they hate the Poles almost as much as the Russians. If they are part of Poland, they will hate the Poles even more than the Russians. Perhaps this is the ultimate gift! A gift that will keep on giving.

Posted by: Peter Williams | Dec 29 2022 7:15 utc | 185

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 29 2022 1:22 utc | 142
I can and do access vk, have an account. Am happy to pass on anything there. I just searched for ‘karlof1’ but didn’t find it.
Top hit was a group ‘karlov stvor’ which I think is not you.
If you care to give me your moniker I’ll follow.

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 29 2022 7:31 utc | 186

Bautzen. Slav village in Germany.
Posted by: Passerby | Dec 29 2022 7:02 utc | 183

Spreewald region in the state of Brandenburg near Berlin.

Posted by: Nobody | Dec 29 2022 7:44 utc | 187

Posted by: TG | Dec 28 2022 23:04 utc | 112
Your comments make it look like a hopeless case for russia/the allies to me.
But I’m changing my mind in view of the astounding things that can be done with drones as demonstrated by civilian mass performances.
To my mind it heralds a completely new kind of warfare, kinda completely electronic/robotic. How it might all work out I don’t know but I simply mean is couldn’t all bets be off, militarily, in view of that?

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 29 2022 7:57 utc | 188

TG #112
“In my utterly unprofessional opinion, I think the only way for Putin to win is by COMPLETELY exhausting Ukrainians (western) ordinance. Super-targeting info can work even if you are outgunned, but not if you have no guns at all…”
Thank you. I see that Putin has been doing exactly that for the past ten months. The upside is that the SMO has gone further than that and exhausted all of NATO stores of old Soviet ordinance as well.
Russian forces don’t even have to travel far or stretch their supply line very much at all as the Ukronazis have invited every fanatic from across the globe to come and die with them and with dignity in the mud of slavic Ukraine. Sounds like a winning game to me.
Remember Russia commenced the demilitarisation of Ukraine 5 years ago with this kiss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHclBYf4Xmc
And then they repeated the trick not long after.
The slavic humour breaks me up:)

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 29 2022 8:19 utc | 189

Vintage Red | Dec 28 2022 22:26 utc | 99
As I reported a week ago, the main foreign units are German (15,000) along with Polish (10,000). Many are sheep-dipped soldiers and reserves. Source of this info was the French site called Stratpol.
It is well known that Russia has several brigades of Iskander missile batteries and perhaps some 10,000 missiles of this type and another 2,000-5,000 cruise missiles that can be launched via these launchers. Who has Russia held these in reserve when they can literally plow up Ukraine’s line of fortifications at a point allowing a breakthrough? Likewise, they could wipe out the remaining power grid and all rail transport.

Posted by: Krollchem | Dec 29 2022 8:23 utc | 190

Seeing videos coming out of Bakhmut with units in combat speaking clear American English with one another while in AFU uniform. Their equipment is likewise indicative, as all are carrying very modern NATO small arms and equipment. Obviously the Russians know who they’re facing. Also seeing vids of the T-14 training in the SMO zone.

Posted by: liveload | Dec 29 2022 8:23 utc | 191

Peter Williams #184

The Galicians are the ultimate xenophobes, they hate the Poles almost as much as the Russians. If they are part of Poland, they will hate the Poles even more than the Russians. Perhaps this is the ultimate gift! A gift that will keep on giving.

Thank you but to me that seems like a perfect rationale to keep them as Ukrainians guarding the Polish/Ukraine border and ensuring the next generation of Galicians get to believe that their dad and granpa were killed by all those evil polish and canadian nazi mercenaries that came to the front lines in 2022. A few school and summer camps with the correct history lessons etc and voila! the anger is correctly directed, the nation preserved and not too many poles crossing the border alive.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 29 2022 8:29 utc | 192

… Was Schroeder part of a plan to buy time, or was he a tool NATO used? …
Posted by: JackG | Dec 28 2022 20:59 utc | 75

A very interesting conjecture. Much more likely to have been acting in good faith but somehow deceived by EU figures who have no real agency. I haven’t seen anything suggestive on this either but I’ll keep an eye out now that you’ve mentioned it.

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 29 2022 8:46 utc | 193

if Russia repels for good the Ukrainian army from the new Russian lands, it will signify that the west lost.
Posted by: Virgile | Dec 29 2022 2:26 utc | 152
That is not possible. Ukr no longer exists as a country, it was and still is a zombie puppet. The shooting over the border will continue just like now, with or without Ukr having its own army. As you can see, a year later, they won’t finish liberating the new regions anytime soon. >70% of the country is wide open for anyone who wants to take it, using the Syria method.
Another problem is that no other region will hold referendum to join Russia now, even if they really wanted to. They know there’s no army to defend them, it’ll be guaranteed suicide. If you don’t see an appropriate amount of troops moving in and permanent bases appearing, if you don’t see serious attacks on energy grid and supply routes, you can skip news 3-6 months, there won’t be any changes or worse, some more retreating from general Baldie.

Posted by: rk | Dec 29 2022 8:59 utc | 194

Posted by: Ramsey Glissadevil | Dec 29 2022 2:23 utc | 150

I understand why West wants war in Ukraine. I also understand why Russia must defend it’s borders and reduce Ukraine military.

Be not angry, I think you do not got it, excuse.
Last day, of this war, is the last day that money (money from the west) go in to Ukrain and it is the 1th day that money go out from Ukrain (to the west). The Ukrain and the winner of this war will pay this outgoing money. The West need this day maybe so soon as posible

Posted by: th | Dec 29 2022 9:03 utc | 195

As I reported a week ago, the main foreign units are German (15,000) along with Polish (10,000). Many are sheep-dipped soldiers and reserves. Source of this info was the French site called Stratpol.
Posted by: Krollchem | Dec 29 2022 8:23 utc | 189
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I’m not doubting your sources but was just responding to @nwwoods @73, who quoted a Russian government source. I imagine percentages have varied by month and section of front. Given fog of war, deep sheep-dipping and Western media denialism I’m not sure we’ll ever have a definitive count of foreign fighters by country, but given how many Ukro-Nazis have been festering in Canada for three generations I’m just happy to hear so many are now dying in hailstorms of 152mm shells—just like their Banderist grandfathers.

Posted by: Vintage Red | Dec 29 2022 9:06 utc | 196

Posted by: Objective Observer | Dec 28 2022 21:10 utc | 79
Handing out pointed corrections and then pitching duds into the slipstream.
Is that a deliberate strategy, do you suppose, Opport Knocks?

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 29 2022 9:16 utc | 197

Posted by: TG | Dec 28 2022 23:04 utc | 112
Nato possessing satellites or high level reconnaissance drones is quite irrelevant for anything else than planning high level strategic moves and strikes on more-or-less fixed, stationary targets.
The point here is that without those local reconnaissance drones, ukie artillery should be blind for the job they are supposed to do – giving fire support for troops. The quadro copters, which have lost effectiviness are needed to guide artillery, the most important task on the battlefield.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 29 2022 9:22 utc | 198

How’s the Cope this cold morning Ukrops?
Another 100 missiles this morning breakfast for Kiev Regime.
Have they run out yet? 😂😂
The Ancients dreaming of taking Russia finally – as a supposed oven ready empire to own and exploit as they have so desired for centuries- they are the dreams that MUST die.
Their machination’s and fake religious , philosophical, economic LIES are the only thing holding back humanity and the Planet from achieving freedom, rights and security for all.
Can we please get started on the C21st?
We have wasted a quarter of it already pandering to their Narratives and infantilising the Collective Wasters sleep walk into Woke privilege and demonisation of the RoW , the majority of humans, because we believe the daily moronic spoon fed lies that we are the best! Just because a few desperate people drown in boats attempting to migrate here!
Getting ready to hand out a few slaps to my nearest and dearest to BRING them to their senses. As a New Years greeting of course.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Dec 29 2022 9:26 utc | 199

Posted by: Kerensky | Dec 29 2022 9:23 utc | 199
Aside from some local “offensives” – which really are just local attacks, not “offensives” in any real sense, just like the Kharkiv and Kherson “offensives” were – Ukraine is in no position to make a general offensive.
Dima doesn’t know what he’s talking about, and this has been clear for some time, as has been discussed here before.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 29 2022 10:01 utc | 200