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December 26, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-235
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In the public consciousness, NATO is not a party to the conflict (even though of course it really is). IMO the best thing that Russia could do is to bring this very important fact into the public consciousness. The public consciousness is a very important battlefield!
Posted by: Donbass Lives Matter | Dec 26 2022 16:01 utc | 1
I see rumors that Ukraine has pulled ALL of its best units to the Bakmut front. Hopefully that means the Melitopol and Kreminna offensives are canceled.
Posted by: catdog | Dec 26 2022 16:04 utc | 2
In the decades, nay, centuries, of Tribal fighting in Europe, especially Eastern Europe,in the fertile ground of hatred, whence WWI and WWII were catalyzed, I have yet to see common ground anywhere. Call them Nazis, Communists, or “cleanly” elected American Democrats, all are thugs.
If the fate of the rest of the World is to depend on irrational, tribal animosity, then this war must be fought to the end. And if it is fought to the end, then the highly emotional, rabidly war-mongering United States must be brought to heal before they test their nihilistic theory of “winning” a Nuclear War.
Posted by: kupkee | Dec 26 2022 16:30 utc | 3
Call them Nazis, Communists, or “cleanly” elected American Democrats, all are thugs.
Posted by: kupkee | Dec 26 2022 16:30 utc | 3
But of course, the Republicans have all the right answers. Do you remember Iraq and Afghanistan? Just saying, what ails the United States today is bigger than a political party. A capitalist “democracy” will always turn into a pig stye.
Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2022 16:57 utc | 4
@ Donbass Lives Matter | Dec 26 2022 16:01 utc | 1
It would not be in Russia’s interest to have ‘the west’ back away too quickly from self-destruction.
Posted by: Figleaf23 | Dec 26 2022 17:09 utc | 6
Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2022 16:57 utc |
American “Democrats” not to be confused with the American Democratic Party. The U.S. is a Uniparty country, just the name tags are different.
There is a chasm between contemporary Capitalism and free enterprise. Most Western countries have controlled markets by large monied Corporations, birthed and funded by Command Central Bankers, operating on the pretense of Free Markets. Naturally the Debts of Central Bankers, along with all Government Debt, is chained to the voiceless masses.
Ukraine is caught between competing Mob families fighting over the spoils, although Russia has a claim of defense of their borders and protection of Russian speakers in Ukraine.
The U.S., as ever, is feeding on their belligerence and profits for the MIC.
Posted by: kupkee | Dec 26 2022 17:11 utc | 7
Interesting development this morning…..100 north korea drones(looks like unarmed) overfly to south korea ..undetected for just testing defense???
@1 DLM
I agree and offer a possibly naive solution. What Putin needs to do is flood or blanket the whole world with the Russian “message” of the US/UK/NATO/Ukie betrayal, lies, and dirty tactics in order to subjugate/destroy completely a Russian people and their resources for profit and power while they just want to live in peace and trade with like-minded nations everywhere! It will cost a LOT of money and will probably do little to solve their dilemma BUT many fence-sitters globally may sit up and take notice of Russian sincerity…
Posted by: safe | Dec 26 2022 17:21 utc | 9
Vehicles with humanitarian emblems bring military supplies to Ukrainian army in Artyomovsk
Andrey Marochko added that the people accompanying the cargo were wearing civilian clothes and Western-made bullet-proof vests
LUGANSK, December 26. /TASS/. The Ukrainian military uses vehicles bearing emblems of international humanitarian organizations to deliver military supplies to troops in the city of Artyomovsk in the Donetsk People’s Republic, the LPR people’s militia’s spokesman, Andrey Marochko, told TASS on Monday.
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Translated from Russian FYI:
Операция Z: Военкоры Русской Весны (Operation Z: Russian Spring Warcasters) (Open/Public TG link) (Short clip & three(3) images at link)
New armored Ural trucks of the volunteer battalion “🅾️tvazhnykh” from Bashkiria.
The vehicles for the Dostavalov Battalion are being modernized at one of the enterprises in Ufa: the “Ural” cabin is reinforced with armor plates and armored glass, and an armored capsule with emergency exits and ventilation is installed instead of the usual body.
Comment:
Remember ad hoc hillbilly armor for logistics trucks/tankers during Iraq War ’03 ?
This though is by design, pre-planned purposeful armoring of soft skinned trucks/transports. Normally only necessary when rear area logistical support immediately behind the FEBA, ie Main Supply Routes(MSRs), are anticipated to be ‘contested’ or vulnerable to insurgents …
Rybar reports that Russia is running out of 152mm shells. “Currently, there are reports that 152mm 2022 shells are coming to the unit, the quality of which raises questions due to the large number of defects compared to the old batches.” Yes, “Russia is running out of ammo” has become a meme, but 300 days of shooting 60,000 shells a day is 18 million. The supply is not bottomless and the efficiency of these shellings is apparently very, very low.
Posted by: catdog | Dec 26 2022 17:22 utc | 11
Dima at MilitarySummaary yesterday opined that on the Zaphorize front RF has set up 3 lines of defense that would be impregnable. A static front for both. He then opined, hey the RF could go slow even in Donetsk. My ignorant self believes that Chasiv Yar and Avdivka need to be flushed, HIMARS I believe onto a hospital in city of Donetsk.
However, few could disagree that RF has a long term studied plan for the next few years (conscript age to 20 , etc. etc. ) They could just rotate in troops for strategic gains and experience, keep holding back the newest bleeding edge equipment. RF could decide to not degrade UKR electrical system to a lower level for the rest of the winter,
Whatever and whenever and how much of an offensive kicks off between now and February? is a tightly held secret. Dimas yesterday’s opining of taking the railroad in Sumy that goes from Byelorussa to RF just might be a fair tactical manuever that would train recruits. They could just attack from RF.
Just waiting for the days when EU rounds up conscriptable UKR and ships them back and when/ if Poland takes Lviv. Not holding my breath.
I really miss the subtitled Yuri daily 5 minute summation.
Posted by: paxmark1 | Dec 26 2022 17:26 utc | 12
Possibly BS:
https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2022/12/25/in-bielorussia-esplode-un-caccia-mig-31k-russo-che-puo-trasportare-missili-ipersonici/6917269/
(Google Translate)
In Belarus, a Russian MiG-31K fighter that can carry hypersonic missiles explodes
A Russian supersonic fighter interceptor caught fire at Machulyshchy airfield. The news was reported by investigative media “Belarusian Hajun” on Telegram and still remains shrouded in mystery
A Russian supersonic fighter interceptor caught fire at Machulyshchy airfield , Belarus . The MiG-31K can carry Kinzhal hypersonic missiles . The news was reported by investigative Belarusian media Hajun on Telegram and still remains shrouded in mystery. He only transpires that, due to the damage suffered, the aircraft will not be able to immediately return to operation . It would be part of the fighters deployed by Russia at the Allied’s airfields.
From the airport of Machulyshchy many planes take part in the war in neighboring Ukraine . The same Belarusian Hajun group just today reported that at 14:00, the Il-76 A-50U “Serhiy Atayants” long-range radar tracking aircraft took off from that Belarusian airport. Soon after, a Russian Air Force MiG-31K fighter jet took off.
Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 26 2022 17:36 utc | 13
Another air base successfully hit. Russia says 3 guys died after the drone was shot down.
They should just come clean, admit they got hit, and declare whatever type of war is total war and let themselves be provoked.
Let loose the dogs of war! It needs to be done.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 26 2022 17:51 utc | 14
One M-777 gun, two Himars systems, two Grad MLRS, 2 Grozdivka self propelled guns and five D-30 guns destroyed today per MOD report.
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 26 2022 17:56 utc | 15
Outraged@10
Abusing the Geneva convention and breaking international law by transporting Soldiers, Weapons and Ammunition in vehicles bearing emblems of international humanitarian organizations may be an indication of Panic.
It may also be a set-up to score propaganda victories – “Russian Animals bombarding Ambulances”.
A good tactic, actually, that will work as long as Ukraine can be certain to enjoy full support from our governments and media, as they do with their use of civilians as human shields – Amnesty International was nuked by our media when they provided evidence of the Ukrainian setting up camps and even firing positions in Schools, Hospitals, residential areas even with civilians living in neighbourhood. That report is long forgotten, Ukraine records hundreds of “war crimes” every day. And no, they are not recording the names of Ukrainian soldiers hiding under the skirts of Ukrainian women and children.
Also, for some reason, the Ukrainian Government and their EU- and NATO-Allies pretend to be furious for Russia attacking energy infrastructure while at the same time shelling the nuclear power plant in Zaporitcha (actually the Ukraine doing the shelling and the Allies supplying the required weapons…).
So, get ready for our Government and Media getting outraged over “Russian fascists shelling ambulances” and demands for “those responsible to stand trial at the international court etc etc etc.”
Posted by: Marvin | Dec 26 2022 18:09 utc | 16
@ Marvin | Dec 26 2022 18:09 utc | 16
Abusing the Geneva convention and breaking international law by transporting Soldiers, Weapons and Ammunition in vehicles bearing emblems of international humanitarian organizations …
This is only the latest, there’s direct video footage exposing this conduct going back to at least March. Even live-streamed. Am not certain if RF has so specifically called it out before though. Did not name the org, surmise it’s ICRC.
Yes, the projection is over the top, absurd & relentless, finding it evermore difficult to read/parse Corporate_MSM_of_Lies ‘articles’ forwarded by Der Stürmer.
@Neofeudalfuture 14
NO since the drone was shot down the base was not successfully hit.
Posted by: Zenith | Dec 26 2022 18:30 utc | 18
The most imporatant article of the conflict?
* https://southfront.org/russia-conducts-operation-with-minimum-civilian-casualties-study-shows/
Apparently, out of every 100 Ukrainians killed during Russian operation, only 6-7 [%] are civilians. /…/ For example, the civilian casualty ratio in Korea was 74%, in Vietnam 46%, in Yugoslavia 56%.As well as Ukraine, other Western allies also kill civilians at shocking rates – such as, for example, Israel, whose Palestinian civilian casualty ratio between 2000 and 2007 was 69%. /…/ The fact that Russia is achieving a military victory in Ukraine without having to sacrifice large numbers of noncombatant lives shows that it is indeed possible to conduct high-intensity operations while protecting the unarmed population. This brings important reflections on why NATO and its allies have always left a shocking number of non-military casualties in their actions around the world. Commonly, Western propaganda calls these casualties “collateral damage”.
Posted by: rockwool99 | Dec 26 2022 18:35 utc | 19
“breaking international law by transporting Soldiers, Weapons and Ammunition in vehicles bearing emblems of international humanitarian organizations may be an indication of Panic.”
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Seems to me it’s nothing new and has been ongoing pretty much the entire conflict by Ukrainians, so it’s hard for me to read it as a sign of panic. Yeah the hypocritical insanity out of EU/NATO/DC over that and other things, like arms sales (everyone can send all they want to UA but if someone chooses to send some Russia way they’re quick to get all fake outraged) is nauseating, but par for the course.
Posted by: knighthawk | Dec 26 2022 18:38 utc | 20
@18
It’s pretty improbable a falling drone killed 3 people. How big was it? More likely a successful strike
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 26 2022 19:00 utc | 21
But let’s be impartial, Russia did catch and kill some saboteurs so it could’ve been worse
https://southfront.org/breaking-ukrainian-saboteurs-killed-while-trying-to-enter-russian-territory-18/
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 26 2022 19:02 utc | 22
The USA needs to either have a major regime change in Russia or it will need to destroy Russia. Otherwise, the USA will quickly lose its world reserve currency status of the United States Dollar. Such will bring about the loss of the USA being a major empire.
It does not look like sanctions against Russia are going to work to bring about a regime change in Russia. This only leaves the destroy Russia option.
The easiest way and maybe the only way that the USA can destroy Russia is via a nuclear first strike. The only problem with this stategy is that nukes most likely will be returning to the USA from Russia. Or Russia could launch first and beat the USA to the first strike advantage.
Watch the Donbas! After Russia takes and secures all of the Donbas (both Luhansk and Donetsk), this is an ideal time for the bear to launch since it will have pretty much neutralized the Ukrainian army on its Western front at that point.
When it looks like Russia is about to take all of the Donbas, quickly get out of the USA and away from any USA or NATO military base.
Posted by: young | Dec 26 2022 19:19 utc | 23
k @ 7 opined; ”
“American “Democrats” not to be confused with the American Democratic Party. The U.S. is a Uniparty country, just the name tags are different.”
There are a few exceptions, but for the most part, the above is true…
The major understated party is “the party of big, organized money” Here in the U$A, we seldom do the “right” thing, we do the money thing..
Posted by: vetinLA | Dec 26 2022 19:33 utc | 24
Anyone believe in coincidences?
–Dec 7 — Three service men were killed at Engels
–5 hours ago — Three military personnel were killed after Ukrainian forces launched a drone attack on Engels
Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 26 2022 19:36 utc | 25
Crooke’s thesis in “The EU’s Lost the Plot” is confirmed by Sergei Lavrov’s answer to a media question about what he thought is the main result of the year:
Through the diplomatic department, the results are formed by the results of our foreign policy, which is determined by the President of Russia. I think the main conclusion and conclusion is that the situation has finally and irrevocably become clearer. What is happening in the world, who is trying to act with what intentions and plans in the international arena, who is negotiable, and who can no longer be trusted. President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly spoken about this in his recent speeches.
This is our fundamental conclusion from the history we are now witnessing. It is the result of a consistent long-term policy of the West to turn Ukraine into “anti-Russia” and not in isolation from everything else, but with the main goal of preventing Russia’s participation in international affairs as an independent, strong, increasingly influential player.
The hysterical reaction of our Western colleagues, at the command of the United States, to the actions we are taking within the framework of a special military operation confirms our main conclusion. This means that it (we now have the supporting facts in our hands) was absolutely necessary in order to thwart plans to turn Ukraine into a constant threat to the security of the Russian Federation. This reaction reflected the West’s understanding that our actions ensured the failure of their geopolitical games and plans.
We’ll see. We have agreements with our closest allies, primarily with the Belarusians. Today, the two presidents confirmed the unshakable course to strengthen our independence, the sovereignty of Russia and Belarus, and the Union State. We have plans within the framework of the EAEU, CSTO, CIS, SCO, BRICS. Our relations are successfully developing with a number of countries and regional organizations in Africa, Asia (ASEAN in particular), and in Latin America. The overwhelming majority of countries in the world certainly do not share the attempts that we have seen in recent years, through military actions, illegitimate sanctions, ultimatums, blackmail and threats to assert the dominance of the United States and its Western allies on the world stage. Nobody likes that.
I am convinced that the historical process is already giving its verdict. Yes, it will be a long historical era of transition to true multipolarity. The West will resist strongly. We’re seeing that. Our Western colleagues on all continents demand that the countries of the developing world join the anti-Russian sanctions and refuse contacts with Russia. These attempts are in vain. In addition to some results of votes achieved by unscrupulous methods in a number of international organizations, these “attempts” of our Western colleagues have not found any material embodiment.
I think this is the main conclusion: everything has become finally clear to everyone. For us, this is absolutely certain, as well as for Belarusian friends and allies, as well as for our other like-minded people. There was an epiphany to the vast majority of countries in the world. We will proceed from this, henceforth building our foreign policy, relying solely on partnerships that have proved that they consist of negotiable people who keep their word and who do not try to achieve any results in their favor at the expense of infringing on the interests of others. [My Emphasis]
Crooke writing from his European perspective says this:
The consequences to these EU high pretentions of having agency in respect to events in Ukraine are not trivial, but of a strategic order. The most immediate is that the EU’s fanatical support for Kiev has moved ethnically ‘anti-Russian Ukraine’ further and further away from any possibility of serving as a neutral or buffer state.
Pari passu for any EU role. It has burnt any bridges as mediator. Why would ethnically Russian Ukrainians trust the EU (when the Kremlin doesn’t)?
The fanning — by Ukraine ‘activists’, inside the EU leadership class and at the highest level of the EU — with toxic anti-Russian sentiments inevitably has plumbed a bitter fault line in Ukraine.
Yet, not one confined to Ukraine alone: It is both fracturing Europe, and creating a strategic fault line between the EU vs the rest of world.
President Macron said this week that he sees ‘resentment’ in President Putin’s eyes. — “a sort of resentment” directed at the Western world, including the EU and the US, and that it is fueled by “the feeling that our perspective was to destroy Russia”.
He is right. The resentment however, is not confined to Russians who have come to despise Europe; it is rather, that across the globe, resentment is bubbling up at all the destroyed lives strewn in the wake of the western hegemonic project. Even a high-ranking French Ambassador now describes the rules-based order as an unfair “Western order” based on “hegemony”. [My Emphasis]
Today, Putin is hosting the annual year-end informal CIS Summit where I doubt Ukraine will be much of a topic as an agenda of other items need to be discussed. IMO, Crooke’s assessment jibes with Putin’s remark about Galicia and his assessment of the EU and the massive hole it’s dug for itself agrees with Lavrov’s assessment of the overall global situation. The tide has certainly turned in a manner the Outlaw US Empire never considered possible, nor did any of its vassals. Its destruction of the Nord Stream pipes was THE most important action that has destroyed the last remaining threads of Western credibility.
Compared with the beginning of 2022, 2023 begins with a very different set of circumstances that very much favor the rising Multipolar World.
No one believes Russia has fired 60,000 artillery shells A DAY since this conflict started that is ludicrous. That is fake news.
Posted by: Lou Cypher | Dec 26 2022 19:39 utc | 27
safe @ 9; That’s a great post. Absolutely on target….
Posted by: vetinLA | Dec 26 2022 19:40 utc | 28
Abusing the Geneva convention and breaking international law by transporting Soldiers, Weapons and Ammunition in vehicles bearing emblems of international humanitarian organizations may be an indication of Panic.
Posted by: Marvin | Dec 26 2022 18:09 utc | 16
No, this is old NATO/western tactics. The west did this in the Bosnian war, they would use Red Cross vehicles to transfer weapons and even foreign and NATO mercenaries. The UN also smuggled in explosives to Sarajevo under cover of delivering oxygen for the hospitals. I believe they even used oxygen tanks.
Posted by: MiniMo | Dec 26 2022 19:40 utc | 29
Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 26 2022 19:37 utc | 26
“The most immediate is that the EU’s fanatical support for Kiev has moved ethnically ‘anti-Russian Ukraine’ further and further away from any possibility of serving as a neutral or buffer state. – Lavrov”
Good catch. More evidence that Russia will take all of Ukraine. The only question is how it will treat that legally, i.e., whether it will set up some sort of “Ukraine government” or simply incorporate all of Ukraine into the Russian Federation, or some third option I can’t comprehend.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 26 2022 19:47 utc | 30
When it looks like Russia is about to take all of the Donbas, quickly get out of the USA and away from any USA or NATO military base.
Posted by: young | Dec 26 2022 19:19 utc | 23
Exiting the US is the plan, but will I get out in time? That answer is up in the air right now.
Posted by: Michigan Dude | Dec 26 2022 19:51 utc | 31
Dmitri Medvedev has penned a long end-of-year article that’s all in Russian, “‘Our people, our land, our truth’: Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev – on the results of 2022, which changed the world order”. This is part of his preamble before listing his main points:
“I will express my own position on current events. I do not pretend to be impartially detached, since I am a direct participant in them. Yes, it is impossible when it comes to the fate of your Motherland, our people and the whole world.”
IMO, this is an important monologue from one of Russia’s key players, so I’ll post the entire translation at my VK eventually. Tose more impatient can find this article completely translated at Martyanov’s blog entry for 25 December near the top of the thread.
Nice zoomable interactive map if you can do Sputnik. …tps://sputniknews.com/20221226/russias-special-military-operation-in-ukraine-and-how-it-is-progressing-1105665248.html
i.e.:
Kramatorsk
Russian forces struck the command post of the 80th Air Assault Brigade of the Ukrainian Air Assault Forces, eliminating over 35 UAF soldiers, including five senior officers. The armament repair and recovery point, hosting two HIMARS multiple rocket launchers, two Gvozdika self-propelled howitzers, five D-30 howitzers and three units of special automotive equipment, were also destroyed.
Posted by: Laurence | Dec 26 2022 20:09 utc | 33
@ catdog | 11
I’ve read articles attempting to estimate what Russian artillery ammunition production is. 1.4 million/year seems reasonable. That would be sufficient for 38k rounds per day. If that 1.4 million is for 152 or for 152/122mm I dont know.
In many of the battle areas, I suspect the largest contibutors to fire volumes may be 120mm mortars and artillery rockets.
It may be that even the Russians experience occasional shortages, but this is normal. They may also impose shortages in one area to build up stocks in anticipation of attacks in other areas.
The Russians, for now, appear committed to a strategy of “grinding” attrition. I see no evidence that there is anything that prevents them from this course. Of course, in the end, we are just observers and we just have to accept the information available with a degree of skepticism and try to keep our eye on the bigger picture.
I watched an hour long youtube from Patrick Lancaster from the Donbass battlefields. During the whole post, you could hear the constant crump of falling artillery and the rattle of automatic weapons fire in the background.
Posted by: Dan Farrand | Dec 26 2022 20:12 utc | 34
NFF @ 21:
It seems that the Russians discovered the drone and shot it down. Unfortunately fragments from the drone killed three personnel at the base where the drone was found. That doesn’t sound like success, esp if the drone was supposed to kill more soldiers or blow up / damage important equipment or installations. I suppose though you have to extract whatever success you can find, even in unintended accidents.
Posted by: Jen | Dec 26 2022 20:19 utc | 35
Kupkee #3
Aside from the “vexata quaestio” about the scientific nature of Marxism-Leninism, to drop the extremely complex experience of communist movements and institutions of the 20th century into one indistinct cauldron of “irrationalisms”, is sufficient proof of the revisionist obfuscation which has been imposed almost everywhere, even on the readers of this forum.
It is not by chance that the outrageously false equation of Communism and Nazi-Fascism, as opposed to a poorly defined democratic rule of law (or worse, to the mythology of “good” pre-capitalist free enterprise), can always be found at the ideological core of the worst offending parties, in terms of internal repression and external imperialist aggression…
Good and wise words against the warmongering élites are not enough, if mixed with poor political understanding.
And I don’t think Brecht would like that, either…
Posted by: MoaMetal | Dec 26 2022 20:29 utc | 36
I have been following MoA for a bit. There is some good content and analysis here, and so I wanted to leave a little Christmas present of my own. A few facts, which on the surface may appear tangential to Ukraine, but taken as a whole present a clearer picture of the actual strategic situation:
1) In early 2020, the CCP terminated the “Hong Kong Democracy Movement.” The expulsion of anglo-american assets from HK coincided in time with the beginning of COVID
2) A few key points about COVID:
a. COVID demonstrated the capability to create a hybrid biological / memetic virus, using a biological virus, along with mass propaganda, to create mass panic in a self-reinforcing loop, and then exploit this mass panic for various political ends
b. Mass vaccination is a first strike weapon for biological warfare. A world power cannot unleash biological warfare without the ability to protect their own population, so a platform for delivering on-demand vaccines to the vast majority of the necessary labor/fighting force is a prerequisite to using biological warfare on a global scale
c. COVID provided the opportunity for field testing and demonstrating the platforms developed for mass vaccination and biological warfare by various competing powers. These weapons platforms combine hybrid bio/info warfare and social control technologies. The Chinese demonstration was much more convincing than the US
d. China has a capability for first strike biological warfare, because they can control their population and force vaccinate them. The US does not.
3) In August 2021 the US/NATO abandons Afghanistan. Giving up a massive air force base, “embassy,” and numerous other facilities in a prime strategic position on the border of China. China has now removed the US from its border and installed a friendly government between itself and its allies in Iran.
4) Following the withdrawal from Afghanistan, reports of US assets being targeted in China, and around the world come in. US assets are removed from Kazakhstan. Hostages are taken at an “embassy” in Yemen. Together these reports add up to a global campaign against anglo-american assets, mostly around the periphery of the rapidly expanding Chinese sphere of control.
5) In November 2021, an anonymous poster on 4chan posts a set of images which they claim are examples of a GAN (Generative Adversarial Network – a type of neural network used for creating fake images) that was used by US “intelligence” to create fake pictures for fake social media profiles for their assets. These training images would allow any sophisticated actor to develop their own neural-network that could scan social media databases in order to detect these fakes, and then pinpoint the assets who the fake profiles were created to create cover for.
These claims are difficult to verify, but the technical sophistication of the allegations lends them credibility. (why bother making a hoax with a bunch of technical details that only a very small number of people are going to understand?)
6) In February 2022 Russia, acting with China’s public support, invades Ukraine.
7) In August 2022, the U.S. Government passes the CHIPS Act, including $39 Billion in subsidies for semiconductor manufacturing. A large portion of this money will be used to pay TSMC and Samsung to build advanced manufacturing facilities in the US.
Moving these advanced production facilities (especially TSMC) to the US is an open admission that the US can no longer defend its allies in South Korea and Taiwan. The US is signaling here that they will allow the CCP to take Taiwan once strategically necessary manufacturing is moved to the US.
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3 years ago the anglo-americans were running subversion operations in HK. Now a Chinese proxy is on NATO’s border and the US has abandoned Taiwan.
Ho ho ho. Merry Christmas.
Posted by: BadSanta | Dec 26 2022 20:30 utc | 37
Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 26 2022 19:37 utc | 26
Thanks for that link.
Ukraine is divided, the Euro neocons are completely wrong about the origin of the Ukraine crisis (depending whether they believe their own propaganda or maintain sanity between truth and propaganda). The neocon stated reason is that it is a “democratic country defending from an aggressor who has no reason”, while the truth is the US installed puppet regime representing mostly the western parts of Ukraine tried to genocide the population in the east and was actually doing it since their first install year in 2014. They didn’t succeed in the mass assaulting Donbass, but they afterwards force conscripted and massacred the Russian ethnic people in center and eastern parts.
What’s happening now is EU getting overwhelmed with refugees with very racist and nazi tendencies. They refuse to change any course or policy, so they will get hammered with more refugees, and more poverty. More welfare immigrants, which will accelerate collapse. US will eat EU for lunch, as Martyanov put it. There is no future for EU. The EU commission is trying to forcefully take a micromanaging command of the economy, which in the process will wreck it, but works for adapting to smaller export potential, and lower quality of life. There will be big problems in EU as quality of life drops.
The article was right in that sense, Eurocrats have a loud mouth, but are not any geopolitical player, and certainly won’t have any part in Ukraine conflict aftermath. Nor will the US, too much. The proxy limbs the west has used simply got hacked off. The only thing they have left is the British specialty of perception management and propaganda to spin it off as a victory.
There will be no “war industry ramp up”. The currency decline and declining ability to have everything in the world with freely printed money will make sure of that.
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 26 2022 20:41 utc | 38
Posted by: kupkee | Dec 26 2022 16:30 utc | 3
Bhadrakumar just published his opinion and he predicts that Biden and his neocon masters are going to risk exactly that: a direct confrontation with THE nuclear superpower Russia. The so called “Coalition of the willing” will enter the war theatre in Ukraine. I personally believe that there will be some adults in Pentagon who will stop them and create a “winning scenario” to pull out. This will result in a gradual breakup of NATO and neocon defeat in the US.
Posted by: Milos | Dec 26 2022 20:41 utc | 39
Another day, another Russian airbase attacked. Yawn….
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Dec 26 2022 20:44 utc | 40
” It’s pretty improbable a falling drone killed 3 people. How big was it? More likely a successful strike
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 26 2022 19:00 utc | 21 ”
Stop using logic, many on here wont like you for it.
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Dec 26 2022 20:49 utc | 41
” “breaking international law by transporting Soldiers, Weapons and Ammunition in vehicles bearing emblems of international humanitarian organizations may be an indication of Panic.”
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Posted by: knighthawk | Dec 26 2022 18:38 utc | 20 ”
Having a law, and being able to enforce it are two different things. ” International law ” is only used against third world countries or Serbia. How many ” international laws ” has Israel broken for instance ?
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Dec 26 2022 20:52 utc | 42
Anyone know why the Russians feel the need to lie about 3 men dying from “falling debris” of a shot-down drone — AGAIN, 3 weeks after the first incident, which was given an identical explanation?
The probability of that happening is about zero.
Posted by: Mark Mosby | Dec 26 2022 20:56 utc | 43
Posted by: BadSanta | Dec 26 2022 20:30 utc | 38
Can’t agree with all of it, while some of it is obvious, but there are some interesting bits.
I do not see the connection in point 1 – bit too much of a stretch
Regards to 2 – no you have it back to front. It was China which started the mass panic, and for good reason. They fear the virus and still do but have recently been forced by public pressure to cave in. Mass deaths just now. The UK and USA were very, very, very slow to panic. It was public pressure that forced governments closely linked to USA to appear panicked.
3. probably over egging a bit. Not quite sure how friendly Afghanistan will be
4. There is something true about 4. Wait and watch
7. An interesting suggestion that may well prove true.
Posted by: watcher | Dec 26 2022 20:59 utc | 44
No one believes Russia has fired 60,000 artillery shells A DAY since this conflict started that is ludicrous. That is fake news.
Posted by: Lou Cypher | Dec 26 2022 19:39 utc | 27
Former US Colonel Doug MacGregor speaks of 20,000 shells per day on the Russian side and 7,000 per day on the Ukr side.
Posted by: grunzt | Dec 26 2022 21:02 utc | 45
@ 33; More kudos for the article posting, a must read for everyone. Rings very true.
Short quote from the article: “the Western world is balancing between a burning desire to maximally humiliate, offend, dismember and destroy Russia, on the one hand, and the desire to avoid a nuclear apocalypse, on the other.”
Another “ring of truth”, IMO..
Again, thanks karlof1….
Posted by: vetinLA | Dec 26 2022 21:03 utc | 46
@ 33; More kudos for the article posting, a must read for everyone. Rings very true.
Short quote from the article: “the Western world is balancing between a burning desire to maximally humiliate, offend, dismember and destroy Russia, on the one hand, and the desire to avoid a nuclear apocalypse, on the other.”
Another “ring of truth”, IMO..
Again, thanks karlof1….
Posted by: vetinLA | Dec 26 2022 21:03 utc | 47
Mark Mosby | Dec 26 2022 20:56 utc | 44
“Anyone know why the Russians feel the need to lie about 3 men dying from “falling debris” of a shot-down drone — AGAIN, 3 weeks after the first incident, which was given an identical explanation?
My explanation would be: “You can take the Russians out of the Soviet Union, but you cannot take the Soviet Union out of the Russians.” Public Relations, Soviet style.
“The probability of that happening is about zero.”
I agree.
Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Dec 26 2022 21:06 utc | 48
I suspect that the Zelensky visit to US was about preparing public for US about to put troops in harms way – maybe will start as “instructors”. Likely there is some urgency to account for those killed so far.
Seems Russia is allowing US to take the lead on escalation. I also get the feeling that when US leaks that it is thinking about escalating, that it has in fact already begun to implement.
Very interesting group discussion with Brian Berletic, Jackie Chan and Mark Sleboda – Russia/China relations. The Chinese guy strikes me as very sharp as does Berletic. My own thinking is China is going to wait til US is in a bad way (militarily/economically/politically), then enter the match.
Posted by: jared | Dec 26 2022 21:07 utc | 49
Posted by: Ed | Dec 26 2022 16:57 utc | 4 and kupkee to whom you were responding
I had just started reading this article when I saw your comments.
https://scheerpost.com/2022/12/25/chris-hedges-the-democrats-are-now-the-war-party/
So yeah, for now the Democrats are on equal footing with the Republicans (albeit with different priorities) as the War Party. The Uniparty and all of the unelected bureaucrats and revolving door lobbyists and think-tankers will be very difficult to get rid of, if not impossible barring a major national war.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 26 2022 21:10 utc | 50
“Having a law, and being able to enforce it are two different things.”
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Dec 26 2022 20:52 utc | 43
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Completely agree and sadly true on so many different fronts.
“hey that’s illegal”
“sure it is…but who’s gonna prosecute me?”
Posted by: knighthawk | Dec 26 2022 21:12 utc | 51
Some tidbits on the battle of Verdun.
“While artillery was the biggest killer of the First World War, casualties were usually inflicted in the course of preparations for ground attacks. The battle of Verdun differed in pursuing a cold-blooded strategy of attrition that envisaged deliberately sacrificing German troops in a limited offensive designed to provoke a French response that could then be destroyed by massed artillery fire. To that end more than 1,200 German guns were secretly massed before Verdun by February 1916 along with a stockpile of 2.5 million shells brought up by 1,300 trains, sufficient for six days intensive fire. A further two million shells were to be fired over the succeeding 12 days, brought up by dedicated munitions trains at a rate of 33 trains per day.”
https://www.historyextra.com/period/first-world-war/verdun-facts-where-france-longest-battle-ww1-forts/
So the Germans managed to fire 2 million shells over 12 days with 1200 guns. That works to about 138 shells per day per gun. That and a lot more are most likely easily obtainable today, but the artillery battles are different and guns don’t fire all the time, they more probably fire by recon info. I guess they could use 100 000 shells per day to “flatten Bakhmut”, but it might be a waste since at any given time there is only one wave of defenders. The landscape at points do look very similar though.
If you use 100 000 shells on one wave of defenders, there are less shells for the next wave. Also, this is speculation, but the troop concentrations aren’t probably as dense or focused as in Verdun. The scale of manpower is magnitudes smaller for area.
Posted by: unimperator | Dec 26 2022 21:17 utc | 52
Posted by: grunzt | Dec 26 2022 21:02 utc | 46
“Former US Colonel Doug MacGregor speaks of 20,000 shells per day on the Russian side and 7,000 per day on the Ukr side.”
I think in one of his latest videos he mentioned somewhere between 30′ to 40’000 a day. But I can remember, that some months ago he spoke of 20’000. It depends on the battles I guess.
I don’t have the direct link to the video, because I can’t remember the name of it.
Here is his youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@douglasmacgregorcol5835
Posted by: SwissGuy | Dec 26 2022 21:43 utc | 53
According to a report on RT, the Ukrainian preconditions for peace talks are still as absurd as ever:
Ukraine calls for UN-brokered ‘peace summit’ in February.
Russia would only be invited after facing international prosecution, says Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba
Kiev has proposed holding a so-called “peace summit” by the end of February to mark the one-year anniversary since Russia launched its military operation against Ukraine. The initiative was announced by that country’s Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba, who also set out conditions for inviting Moscow to the event….
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 26 2022 21:50 utc | 54
Posted by: Donbass Lives Matter | Dec 26 2022 16:01 utc | 1
I agree entirely and have been saying it for a long time. Yours is the ONLY post I’ve ever seen that agrees. So I’m pleased. Very pleased. But we need thousands and millions more to see it, don’t we?
It is, of course, because the public sees it as wicked russia v innocent ukraine that they do not interfere, rebel, complain, accept suffering and so on.
And russia does not mount a good public relations or propaganda campaign to counter.
And the ‘observers’, ‘commentators’, ‘analysts’ that we follow do not do anything to help either.
Just take a look at them, choose your own: Ritter, Macgregor, Mercouris, Berleti… on and on.. do they ask for assistance in their campaign to get the word out?
Not at all.
One of them: mercouris, consistently for months referred to it as Russia v Ukraine, i.e. always referred to ‘Russian forces’ when in fact the forces were DPR and LPR (as they still overwhelmingly are).
We need a mantra. Because that’s what rules the world today. Short, pithy, easily remembered slogans, mantras.
Something that gets to the heart of it somehow.
Maybe like: ” It is Bad Ukraine v Good Ukraine ” followed by “And why are we helping Bad Ukraine?” and ‘Why is only Russia helping good Ukraine’.
Karlof1 #26
Lavrov:
President Macron said this week that he sees ‘resentment’ in President Putin’s eyes. — “a sort of resentment” directed at the Western world, including the EU and the US, and that it is fueled by “the feeling that our perspective was to destroy Russia”.
He is right.
Yes, it’s crystal clear that the french perspective was to destroy Russia.
That was clearly explain by Bruno Lemaire as soon as 03.01.2022
“Les sanctions économiques et financières sont d’une efficacité redoutable”
“Et je ne veux laisser planer aucune ambiguïté sur la détermination européenne entière à ce sujet. Nous allons livrer une guerre économique et financière totale à la Russie.”
” Je me suis entretenu hier avec Janet Yellen, nous aurons une réunion du G7 cet après midi sur ce sujet, et j’ai convoqué demain une réunion des ministres des finances européens pour m’assurer de la bonne exécution de ces sanctions. ”
“Elles doivent frapper vite, elles doivent frapper fort, et on en voit déjà les effets. Le rouble s’est effondré de 30%, les réserves de change russes sont en train de fondre comme neige au soleil, le trésor de guerre de Poutine est déjà réduit à presque rien.
La totalité des avoirs russes que les alliés vont geler représente “presque 1.000 milliards de dollars”
Nous allons donc provoquer l’effondrement de l’économie russe”
Machine translated
“The economic and financial sanctions are very effective”.
“And I do not want to leave any ambiguity on the entire European determination on this subject. We will wage total economic and financial war on Russia.”
“I spoke yesterday with Janet Yellen, we will have a G7 meeting this afternoon on this subject, and I have convened a meeting of European finance ministers tomorrow to make sure that these sanctions are properly implemented. ”
“They have to hit fast, they have to hit hard, and we are already seeing the effects. The ruble has collapsed by 30%, Russian foreign exchange reserves are melting like snow in the sun, Putin’s war chest is already reduced to almost nothing.
The total amount of Russian assets that the allies are going to freeze represents “almost 1,000 billion dollars.”
We are therefore going to cause the collapse of the Russian economy”.
Who can believe that Bruno Lemaire, rallied from the first days to Macron and his Minister of Economy, Finance and Recovery since day one is not just “the voice of his master”?
Who can believe that their script was not written a long time ago when 4 months later, Macron will proudly broadcast on television the conversation he had on February 20, 2022 with Vladimir Putin and that he secretly staged and had recorded.
For these va-t-en-guerres wanted to appropriate a victory that they thought would come quickly?
Those morons are responsible of the coming war.
Who can think that our “Beethoven of the economy” was not on a mission for “the Mozart of Finance” Macron but also and above all for the EU, the G7 and NATO when he declared to the main French news channel, on March 01, 2022 (10 days later and one week after the start of the special operation)?
According to him, the US-EU axis is bearing fruit.
He says that it is and that a new salvo of economic sanctions is being prepared “if necessary”
“The United States and Europe together are by far the most powerful economic and financial continent on the planet and the European Union “is in the process of discovering its economic power”.
These sanctions will also affect the economies of European countries. But “it is Russia that will suffer, not Europe”.
“The Russian people will also pay the consequences”.
Posted by: La Bastille | Dec 26 2022 21:56 utc | 56
Sorry, the link to french vid. & text
https://www.bfmtv.com/economie/economie-social/bruno-le-maire-nous-allons-provoquer-l-effondrement-de-l-economie-russe_AN-202203010131.html
https://youtu.be/Ntzacqlm-Ac
Posted by: La Bastille | Dec 26 2022 21:59 utc | 57
FAKE UKRAINE
“Drama theatre in Mariupol to be completely demolished to cover up consequences of Russian Armed Forces’ war crimes”
There is no evidence at all to suggest the theatre is to be demolished. The most dangerous parts of the building are to be demolished for safety reasons. The theatre is to be rebuilt. Neither is there ANY evidence of war crimes at the theatre.
FAKE UKRAINE
“DPR starts handing out conscription notes to women”
There have been no conscription notes sent out to women in the DPR. Furthermore, this is the second fake note to appear on Telegram channels.
FAKE UKRAINE
“Yalta Department of Education and Youth Policy congratulates Ukrainian army on 100,000 killed Russian soldiers”
The department’s official website was hacked. The attackers briefly posted the message as if from the official department. There is no such “congratulations” from the Yalta source.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Dec 26 2022 22:00 utc | 58
Posted by: kupkee | Dec 26 2022 16:30 utc | 3
I don’t agree at all. I think that’s misdirected attention. You are talking of the war on the ground? Where the dying and suffering are? And you want that ‘fought to the end’?
No. That’s the outward expression of the real evil which is in the people overseeing and directing all this.
Fight that war on the ground ‘to the end’ and you leave them untouched. You have solved nothing.
They live on to ‘fight another day’ and, of course, they will. Their fight never ends: to gain more power and more wealth.
There is currently no fight at all, really, in terms of the real war. The ‘real war’ should be sensible reasonable free intelligent human beings versus manipulative villains directing them to waste their energies fighting and killing each other.
There’s just about nothing happening there at all.
So the ‘next’ war is the war between Russia with the careful tentative and unreliable ‘help’ of china, India, etc and the warmongers and oligarchs etc. of the USA etc.
Now THAT is a war that should be brought to an end as soon as possible and could be. Real world real time political negotiations can put a stop to it. Simply getting the basic truth across to the Western dumb, ignorant, lazy masses could cause it to be terminated quick time.
And the last ‘war’ is the conflict on the ground. And that could be halted in a minute, couldn’t it? While the other wars continue. Just order a ceasefire and its done. And it should be done.
And that’s how it should end. By edict. Now. No ‘fight to the end’ for that gets us nowhere, just kills thousands more innocents and destroys everything – and, as I said, leaves the real villains untouched.
Not sure why Deplorable Commisary and his fellow trolls have so much difficulty believing Russian claims of successfully shooting down the drone in light of the fact that Pentagon officials have repeatedly acknowledged that the Russians possess the worlds best networked anti-aircraft defences. But troll gonna troll, I guess.
Posted by: nwwoods | Dec 26 2022 22:01 utc | 60
@MoaMetal | Dec 26 2022 20:29 utc | 37
I read your post, at least twice to try to figure out what you were trying to say, and so I thought I would add a couple of observations and thoughts.
First, there is no unsettled question or debate about the scientific nature of Marxism-Leninism. There is nothing scientific to debate. Science involves formulating a hypothesis and using sound research design to determine whether or not the results support the hypothesis.
The only question to be addressed about Marxism-Leninism is whether or not one more fool with a Napoleanic complex will come along trying to prove that if he’s allowed to be the dictator of a Marxist regime, he can make it successful even though no one else ever has. Lenin and Stalin and those who followed couldn’t do it, Fidel couldn’t do it, and Maduro isn’t doing it, so why do morons like Sean Penn and Bernie Sanders support these people? I have no idea except to hypothesize that they either don’t read or can’t comprehend history. Perhaps we could find a way to investigate that in a legitimate scientific experiment.
Communism and Nazi-Fascism are not the same. Fascism doesn’t have to be Nazi-Fascism. Argentina had fascism. In America, Democrats accuse the right wing of being fascist but the opposite is the truth. Fascism can be on the left, right, or center politically. Right now, the U.S. is experimenting with fascism merged with cultural Marxism. The fascist component is the left’s apparent marriage with big tech and lots of other companies. That’s basically what fascism is — the merging of government with big business. The cultural Marxist component is elevating outcomes based on individual characteristics over what we used to have — a meritocracy.
If we were truly practicing free market capitalism with reasonable controls, we wouldn’t have had a large number of FBI agents working full-time in collaborating with our biggest social media companies. And FBI agents wouldn’t be leaving their jobs to take high level positions with these companies.
I’m not sure why our government is acting in such an obvious and repugnant imperialistic manner, but I guess that’s just what happens when Marxists wrap their minds around fascism. Apparently, you get a new batch of war mongers, some of which are the traditional neo-cons, but oddly enough, I believe a majority of these imbeciles in the current era are left wing Marxist/Fascist nutcases who claim to be Democrats.
If Putin wants to prevail, it’s my view he needs to demonstrate real power and get this over with sooner rather than later. Our new batch of war mongers are like school yard bullies. If they get a whiff of fear, they are greatly emboldened. If they get punched in the nose, real hard, their attitude changes.
Posted by: OdessaConnected | Dec 26 2022 22:06 utc | 61
More about my #57
“à propos”, the last phone call from Macron to Vladimir Poutine
Un jeune coq insultant et méprisant
“Je ne sais pas où ton juriste a appris le droit. Moi je regarde juste les textes et j’essaie de les appliquer”
“On s’en fout des propositions des séparatistes !”
A subject comes quickly on the table: the respect of the Minsk agreements, which, decided in 2015, must prevent any military escalation between Ukraine and Russia. Vladimir Putin suggests taking into account the demands of the pro-Russian separatists. “I don’t know where your lawyer learned the law. I just look at the texts and I try to apply them!” replied Macron, refusing to put the pro-Russian separatists and the elected Ukrainian government on the same level. “We don’t give a damn about the proposals of the separatists!” supports the French president, when his Russian counterpart returns to the charge.
French newspaper with link to stunning Macron’s vid.
https://www.leparisien.fr/culture-loisirs/tv/un-president-leurope-et-la-guerre-sur-france-2-quand-lhistoire-secrit-sous-nos-yeux-30-06-2022-FIBXV7TS4BFTRIWW7OQEVPYVGE.php
Posted by: La Bastille | Dec 26 2022 22:11 utc | 62
Thanks for the replies. Medvedev’s 2022 recap article is now translated and posted here. I highly suggest it be read.
Déplorable & neofeodal
If a “small piece of titanium dropped from one of Continental DC10 engines can hit the tire of Concorde and exploded it, ripped some Gummi into one of the fuel tanks on the wing, and started a fast chain of events that led to the crash of the supersonic plane. And kill 113 ”
Why not?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/continental-found-guilty-in-concorde-crash-why-the-verdict-was-wrong/
Posted by: La Bastille | Dec 26 2022 22:25 utc | 64
Posted by: OdessaConnected | Dec 26 2022 22:06 utc | 62
LOL, way off topic, but to mention Cuba and Venezuela as examples of the alleged failures of marxism is as dumb as it gets. First, what happens when the US stops sabotaging them, blockading/embargoing them, plotting assassinations, preventing them from having a voice in world affairs and punishing others for doing business with them? See, the truth is that both Cuba and Venezuela posed “the threat of the good example” and on top of that in Uncle Scam’s “back yard.”
And yet, it can be argued that in many ways Cuba is actually beating the US system. Their life expectancy just surpassed that of the US and UK, IIRC. Cuba sends doctors and nurses all over the developing world and to conflict zones to perform humanitarian tasks while the USA sends guns, death and destruction.
You’ve been listening to too much OANN.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 26 2022 22:29 utc | 65
@Karlof1 Post 31
Happy Holiday Greetings to you and All Bar visitors.
I am impatient so I will be helpful.
“We salut Ukraine..The AUF is winning the war pushing back against Russia.” Yes, during the last week, I read that on a very large street Billboard.
Winning Mightly:
As OpportKnocks in Post at 55
Ukraine calls for UN-brokered ‘peace summit’ in February
“Russia would only be invited after facing international prosecution”, says Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba
Geez why February? Will the RADA rescind the “NO DEAL with Russia Act?”
No invite. Not gonna happen before Odessa is taken. Remember Odessa.
AND in any event,
Ex-Russian president Dmitryoutlines timeline for reconciliation with the West.
It will be decades if ever. You can’t steal my money and expect to kissy and make-up.
Trust has been broken for at least a generation by the US and its allies, who have cheated Russia, Dmitry Medvedev insisted
No, he did not mince his sentences
Former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev has accused Western powers of lying, causing a rift that will remain for decades to come, and convincing Moscow that there is no sense in trying to reach an agreement with them.
Medevedev, who serves as deputy chair of the national Security Council, wrote in a keynote article on Sunday that the year 2022 has shattered illusions about the West, proving that its promises and principles cannot taken at face value.
“Alas, there is nobody in the West we could deal with about anything for any reason,” he wrote.
Medvedev went on to say that nations that claim global leadership deceived Russia when they claimed NATO expansion in Europe posed no threat to it. They again lied when they backed a peace roadmap for Ukraine, which in reality was meant to give Kiev time to prepare for an eventual armed conflict with Russia, he added. The conflict in Ukraine is a war against Russia by a proxy, which was long in the making, Medvedev claimed.
The behavior of Washington and others this year “is the last warning to all nations: there can be no business with the Anglo-Saxon world [because] it is a thief, a swindler, For Russia, there will be no restoration of normal relations with the West for years or even decades to come, Medvedev predicted.
“From now on we will do without them until a new generation of sensible politicians comes to power there. We will be careful and alert. We will develop relations with the rest of the world,” he wrote.a card-sharp that could do anything.”[.]
Medvedev argued that the loss of Western leadership could be a net positive, considering what he called the moral bankruptcy of the US-led neo-colonial order. Elites that caused the financial meltdown of 2008 and the ongoing global crisis are unable to claim global leadership, he wrote.
“The West is incapable of offering to the world any new ideas, which would take humanity forward, solve global problems, or provide collective security,” the former president insisted.
In plain proper English for all to read. And this is not a bluff or puffery.
Medvey’s new bad cop role. What’s not to like? And he is seeing reality; “the financial meltdown” in the collective west will prompt others to seek shelter elsewhere.
Financial collapse and isolation is a two-fer-one.
Posted by: Likklemore | Dec 26 2022 22:33 utc | 66
Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 26 2022 20:05 utc | 33
As well as his serious writing, Medvedev has been winding up the twitterati.
A small sample:
“8. Civil war will break out in the US, California. and Texas becoming independent states as a result. Texas and Mexico will form an allied state. Elon Musk’ll win the presidential election in a number of states which, after the new Civil War’s end, will have been given to the GOP”
https://twitter.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1607487342549286914
Posted by: Gt Stroller | Dec 26 2022 22:33 utc | 67
Posted by: Dan Farrand | Dec 26 2022 20:12 utc | 35 “I’ve read articles attempting to estimate what Russian artillery ammunition production is”
Got some links still around from your research?
Posted by: Bill Smith | Dec 26 2022 22:40 utc | 68
Thanks Karlof1 for Medvedev translation
It is now finally clear that in the relations of independent and sovereign states with the Anglo-Saxon world in the current configuration, there can be no question of trust, hope for the decency of partners, their loyalty to the word and even their own beautifully stated principles.
Alas, now we have no one to talk and negotiate with in the West, nothing to talk about, and there is no need to.
There is a curious metamorphosis. In the old days, the term “Iron Curtain” meant a blockade of undesirable countries or their associations, which had to be isolated in one way or another from the rest of the global society. Now it is obvious that the Western world is gradually turning into a besieged fortress, the entrances to which it tightly closes with walls (by the way, often quite real), locks and concretes from the inside. He imprisons himself in a cage – while the rest of the world lives quietly in the wild. That’s where he goes. Let him live on the reservation.
Posted by: La Bastille | Dec 26 2022 22:43 utc | 69
Bucha revisited: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/video/russia-ukraine-bucha-massacre-takeaways.html published last Friday. I was convinced by the analyses of the likes of Ritter, Lira and comment here on MOA that the staged bodies in Bucha were a Ukrainian false flag and war crime. The NYT use of video and phone tracking makes me doubt that conclusion but I lack the ability to critically examine the NYT conclusion the bodies were the work of a particular Russian unit. Hope someone here can provide that critique. Otherwise the need for objectivity on this incident may force a revision of original conclusions. I have returned to the ‘undecided’ column .’ So far I have seen no comment on this NYT report. Objectivity means holding out the possibility that even the MSM sometimes gets it right.
Posted by: Mjh | Dec 26 2022 22:44 utc | 70
Posted by: Mjh | Dec 26 2022 22:44 utc | 71
I’m not going to bother visiting the filthy NYT rag, so I don’t know if this refutes any of their points, but it may serve as a starting point.
https://waronfakes.com/lies-about-bucha/what-happened-in-bucha-a-full-analysis-of-the-ukrainian-provocation/
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 26 2022 22:51 utc | 71
More on the NYT new Bucha story. Some of the video ‘evidence’ in the story is new, but some, such as the person on a bike turning a corner and being blown away by a tank was analyzed before by the likes of Ritter as being operationally necessary, which I am willing to accept. But some of the video evidence is heretofore unseen and seems to depict the rounding up and execution of 8 civilians. Can anyone analyze this video for signs of fakery? Beyond my abilities….
Posted by: mjh | Dec 26 2022 22:53 utc | 72
Israel helps Ukraine whitewash its Nazis (The Electronic Intifada, Asa Winstanley and Ali Abunimah, December 23, 2022)
Posted by: S | Dec 26 2022 22:56 utc | 73
@ Mjh | Dec 26 2022 22:44 utc | 71
🤣` … Get bent, Nazi.
Posted by: Laurence | Dec 26 2022 22:57 utc | 74
Nice zoomable interactive map if you can do Sputnik. …tps://sputniknews.com/20221226/russias-special-military-operation-in-ukraine-and-how-it-is-progressing-1105665248.html
Posted by: Laurence | Dec 26 2022 20:09 utc | 34
Yes, excellent. Thankyou, I’ve bookmarked it. It shows very clearly how much territory is now Russian but is under the control of Kiev.
Clearly enough surely to put to rest any speculation on which direction future Allied efforts might take? Simply retake those territories, surely?
Posted by: Mark Mosby | Dec 26 2022 20:56 utc | 44
Why do you assume they are lying? Possibly they are lying, but those Soviet era “drones” have a warhead in the range of a modern cruise missile. After being intercepted, the intact warhead can be part of the “debris” and still explode on impact. So also quite possible their report is truthful.
Posted by: Snowleopard | Dec 26 2022 23:14 utc | 76
Sorry it took me so long to get this posted as it ranks with Medvedev’s words, “Opening remarks by Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov during a working meeting with Russian media leaders”:
Dear friends,
In addition to regular communication in different periods associated with foreign policy events, it has become a good tradition for us to meet on New Year’s Eve for a free, lively exchange of views on what is happening in the world and on the place of the Russian Federation in these processes.
I don’t think we need lengthy introductory remarks. President of Russia Vladimir Putin has repeatedly expressed in detail his assessments of what is happening. He set out the line of the Russian Federation in conditions when the “collective West” has completely discredited itself as a partner in negotiations and, most importantly, in the implementation of what is achieved as political or legal agreements.
30 years ago, Fukuyama said that “the end of history” had come. By this he meant the complete dominance of liberal ideology, democracy, way of life and the disappearance of the competing world system, socialism. After a while, he was laughed at. They began to say how wrong he was, that there was no need to make categorical forecasts.
If you look at the policy of the Joe Biden administration now, they want the “end of history” to take place not just in the works of political analysts, political scientists and researchers, but in real life. Everything that we see now in Europe (in its broadest sense) and on other continents, where American “messengers” demand that each state take an anti-Russian position, join the sanctions, and not communicate with Russian representatives – this is all a reflection of the attempt to establish the “end of history”, the final and irrevocable dominance of the “golden billion”. President of Russia Vladimir Putin has said this more than once.
These “attempts” are ahistorical, aimed at suspending and suppressing the objective formation of a multipolar world. The course of history cannot be stopped. There is no end to the story and there will never be. Humanity has repeatedly gone through attempts to subdue it from one or another force, which intends to dictate everything and everyone. So it will be this time.
Many states and politicians (there are not many of them in the United States itself, but they exist and are trying to express their point of view more and more loudly) understand the harmfulness of such a course, the lack of alternatives to building good-neighborly relations on this planet (of a relatively small size) that allow them to take into account each other’s interests, to live side by side, without trying to subjugate a neighbor, or even a country located 10,000 miles away.
This is what the Americans did when they “suddenly” thought that Yugoslavia led by S. Milosevic, Iraq and Hussein, and Libya and M. Gaddafi posed a threat to their security. These were prosperous countries that did not fit into the Western understanding of liberal democracy. They were autocratic, if not dictatorial. But it does not make it any easier for the more than a million civilians who have died as a result of Western aggression. The socio-economic situation in Iraq and Libya was one of the best in the region. Where are these countries now? They as a state have not yet been “blinded” to the end.
Any other regions of the world where the Americans tried to “restore order” experienced the same sad tragic consequences. Overnight, Afghanistan was abandoned after twenty years of “rule”. They fled, leaving the country in ruins, with terrorist and drug threats that have increased many times over the period of the American stay. Everyone knows how American soldiers and drug lords were engaged in drug trafficking to Europe from Afghanistan.
During these twenty years, the Americans have not built a single industrial enterprise in Afghanistan. The situation is further aggravated by the fact that the remaining after the previous government about 10 billion US dollars were taken and taken, but they are not going to give it away. Or they will give it away if the Taliban again let the Americans in for a military presence on their territory. Now Washington is seriously concerned about this.
We have to think more about ourselves. What President Vladimir Putin said is already being implemented in the activities of our Ministry and Government.
We no longer have the right to rely on these people. Neither our people nor history will forgive us. We must do everything to ensure that we have an independent system for the functioning of our state in terms of critical industries and technologies. We understood during the months of the special military operation and over the past years, when serious sanctions were already being imposed against Russia, where we have gaps in our own development, where we too openly and naively “relied” on all those assurances made in early 1990 about a common European home, about the need for an international division of labor that would be based on the best characteristics and competitive advantages of each country. so that, by joining forces, saving resources and achieving the most effective cost-effective results. These are all empty words.
The true interest of the West lies, as the President of Russia said, in the continuation of the colonial and neocolonial policy: where to deceive someone, where to snatch more for itself, where to make sure that the financial opportunities that still remain in the dollar, which is reproduced by trillions in green papers. Then they are actively used in order to create the situation in the world food and fertilizer markets that the West (primarily the United States) needs. All this has not convinced anyone for a long time when we are told that we need to look for solutions and compromises.
If we talk about compromises, then during the “triumphant” visit to the United States, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky said that “a just peace means no compromises.” This is exactly what its “masters” are now guided by: no compromises, we will dictate our will. Therefore, they need to defeat Russia not only on the battlefield, but also inflict a strategic defeat so that no one will be bothered. This is the specificity of the moment. The vast majority of countries in the world see and understand this very well. It takes time to get rid of these dollar-oriented “shackles” aimed at the functioning of the mechanisms of world development created by the West and the maintenance of the global economy. Almost all countries were too deeply bogged down in this “system” during the post-war period, when these tools and mechanisms were still considered as promising and satisfying for all, responsible for balancing the interests of states. The process of understanding the risks and threats arising from such dependence is active.
I assure you that in the near future we will see a serious reduction in the West’s ability to “steer” in the global economy as it wants. Whether he wants to or not, he will have to negotiate.
We are not going to run after the West. They severed almost all relationships. We have someone to develop cooperation with in the economy, social, cultural and sports spheres. We will focus on those who have never let us down, with whom difficult compromises have sometimes been reached, but when they were reached, no one has ever deceived anyone. With the West, it’s exactly the opposite. [My Emphasis]
One year ago, Lavrov was rather close to saying these same words. Many of them did appear in the report he submitted to Russia’s Security Council as it made its choice to recognize, admit and defend the Donbass Republics from the Genocide being waged on them. Above, Lavrov IMO is too polite to call what was done to Iraq and Libya Genocidal assaults, although that’s exactly what they were. Nor does Lavrov attempt to make the connection between Outlaw US Empire policy toward Russia and Hitler’s Plan Ost, although I’m sure the Russian media people present were well aware of that.
I’m curious to see the tenor displayed by Russian media as we move into 2023 and the decoupling between Russia and West becomes manifest–who will bemoan that fact and ask what Russia could’ve done to prevent it when in reality there’s nothing Russia could’ve done to allay the Outlaw US Empire’s plans that it’s had for many decades.
From an article I shall not link to.
Russia Willing To Resume Gas Supplies To Europe Via Yamal Pipeline
Russia has said it’s willing to resume natural gas supplies to Europe through the Yamal-Europe Pipeline. The Yamal-Europe Pipeline usually flows westward but has been mostly reversed after Poland turned away from buying from Russia in favor of drawing on stored gas in Germany.
As long as Russia keeps supplying Europe with gas and oil by whatever means, the EU/Europeans will be happy to keep fighting and funding the war in Ukraine against Russia.
It’s a bizarre strategy the Russians seem to have of keeping their enemies comfortable and functional.
If the Russians hadn’t supplied this oil and gas to the EU since this conflict started (& the sanctions started) – the EU would be out of oil & gas by now and demanding peace.
Posted by: Julian | Dec 26 2022 23:23 utc | 78
After one year of being constantly ostracized and humiliated, and the west openly saying they wanted regime change in Russia, the Russian politicians seem to have realized the west is not interested in speaking to them. They see the war as a way to send more money to the MIC (which comes back to the political class) and get Ukrainians and Russians killed.
Given each drone attack by Ukraine kills “three” servicemen, is it that hard to get servicemen to take cover when the air defense becomes active?
Again, it seems the Russian leadership craves being accepted by the west, and no analyst who suggests otherwise is allowed to keep his job.
Posted by: nothing but the trut | Dec 26 2022 23:24 utc | 79
Posted by: MoaMetal | Dec 26 2022 20:29 utc | 37
obfuscation?
This post would be an exemplary piece of obfuscation if ‘exemplary’ fits in that concept.
We can reduce it to this at first reading:
aside from the vexatious question of scientific nature of marxism-leninism
dropping complex experience of commo movements and institutions of 20th C into cauldron of ‘irrationalisms’ is proof of revisionist obfuscation which has been imposed everywhere
not accident that false equation of commo & neo fascist as opposed to () democratic rule of law ( or good pre capitalist free enterprise) can always be found in core ideology of worst offending parties, in terms of internal repression and external imperialist aggression.
Then we can put ‘aside’ the ‘aside’ and remove adjectives that merely qualify we have:
dropping experience of commo movements and institutions of 20th C into ‘irrationalism’ is proof of obfuscation.
Then if we leave aside the ‘not accident’ as superfluous we have:
the false equation of commo & neo fascism as opposed to democratic rule of law can always be found at the ideological core of the worst offending parties.
Oh, yes?
Obfuscation indeed.
Gt Stroller @68–
Medvedev wrote that and more on his telegram:
Before the new year, everyone likes to make predictions
Many practice futuristic hypotheses, competing in the proposal of the most unexpected and even absurd. We will also do our part.
What can happen in 2023:
1. Raising the price of oil to $ 150 per barrel and gas prices to $ 5,000 per 1,000 cubic meters. m.
2. Britain’s return to the European Union.
3. The disintegration of the European Union after the return of great Britain and the abolition of the circulation of the euro as the currency of the former EU.
4. The seizure by Poland and Hungary of the western regions of the former Ukraine.
5. Creation of the Fourth Reich on the basis of Germany and its satellites (Poland, the Baltic countries, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, the Kiev Republic, and other marginals).
6. War between France and the Fourth Reich. Partition of Europe, including the new partition of Poland.
7. Separation of Northern Ireland from the Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and accession to the Republic of Ireland.
8. Civil War in the United States, the separation of California and Texas into independent states. Creation of a union state of Texas and Mexico. Elon Musk’s subsequent victory in the US presidential election in some of the states assigned to the Republicans after the Civil War.
9. Transfer of all major stock exchanges and financial activity from the USA and Europe to Asia.
10. The collapse of the Bretton Woods financial system, including the collapse of the IMF and the World Bank. Abandoning the euro and the dollar as the world’s reserve currencies. The return of the gold standard. Transition to the active use of digital fiat currencies.
Happy New Year to you, Anglo-Saxon friends and their gleeful grunting piglets!
@Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 26 2022 22:29 utc | 66
I guess you missed the recent program that showed a team of four Newsmax team members who went to check out Cuba. The lines in the grocery store took over an hour to get through, and there was little in the way of fresh fruit or vegetables. There was one gas station open and the line was about a half a mile long…but hey, if you’re dumb enough to think that making people dependent on a government is a good idea, go for it. Maybe you’re the little Napoleanic dictator that can make it work.
Regarding Maduro, he was preceded by Chavez, and he pretty much destroyed the country and its wealth without our help, but like a good brainwashed libtard, I can hear you blaming it on the U.S. Go ahead, keep trying. You and Sean Penn and Bernie should hold a seminar to teach us how you’re going to make it work when the three of you are in charge.
And the Soviet Union? So you think we’re at fault for their lack of progress and tiny economy relative to their size? Also, since you’ve studied this so much, how do you think three families assigned to a four room apartment liked it — with one bathroom for everyone? You ever been in one of those apartments? I didn’t think so.
I assume you would think that was what they really wanted, that they wanted to be jammed and crammed into these apartments because they were all comrades who worshipped Stalin, right? And if not, it was their fault for not appreciating what the government gave them, or else simply the fault of the U.S.
You know, I’m beginning to think that uneducated dullards should really think twice before they expose their ignorance. You really should think about this.
Posted by: OdessaConnected | Dec 26 2022 23:31 utc | 82
More good news for Europe/EU/Germany.
Level Of The German Gas Storage Tanks Is Rising Again
The mild temperatures ensure lower gas consumption in Germany. The result: for the fourth day in a row, the levels in German gas storage tanks rose again.
The filling level of the German gas storage facilities has risen for the fourth day in a row. According to data from the European storage association GIE, the amount held on Christmas Eve increased by 0.37 percentage points to 87.84 percent. This is the most recent data available, as saves are usually released with a two-day delay. The current increase is due in particular to the comparatively mild temperatures.
With European gas storages rising in mid-Winter it shows that the story that the EU will run out of gas/oil is a fantasy – especially when Europe’s biggest gas & oil supplier is still supplying them with energy!
Posted by: Julian | Dec 26 2022 23:37 utc | 83
@ Julian | Dec 26 2022 23:37 utc | 84
Hey Julian…50cts/kwh.
You need 1€ boiling water for 1€ Spaghetti.
Underground Gas Reserve is not the problem. Money is…
Not so funny for us….
https://sonar21.com/merry-christmas-and-happy-new-year/
Posted by: La Bastille | Dec 26 2022 23:47 utc | 84
the barfing cat types are here today… i want to comment on one thing only…
this is not a propaganda war, but a real war… those who advocate for getting russia to win the propaganda war are on the wrong track as i see it… western media is not going to change overnight or any time soon.. it is serving the same genocidal freaks pushing for more war so as to spend more money on the banking, military and energy complex… this is a win, win, win for these 3 complexes and the media is fully complicit in accommodating them… for the folks advocating for a propaganda win – just keep you head stuck in the western msm – and skip posting at moa..
Posted by: james | Dec 26 2022 23:53 utc | 85
From Medvedev’s article cited by Karl…
For ten months, a special military operation has been going on, the goals of which were originally outlined by the Country’s President V.V. Putin. This is the protection of our compatriots in the new territories, which after the referendums held in them became part of Russia. Denazification of the disgusting, almost fascist regime of Ukraine. Complete demilitarization of the Ukrainian state. Guarantees against aggression in the future.
Also this part in the next paragraph:
It was not only about the protection of the fraternal republics of Donbass, but also about the security and sovereignty of Russia itself.
And this part further down…
We will make every effort to ensure that all the objectives of the special military operation are achieved. And the disgusting regime of Kiev nationalists ceased to exist.
It’s these facts that everyone forgets when they say Russia will stop at the Dnieper. That ain’t gonna happen.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 27 2022 0:04 utc | 86
You know, I’m beginning to think that uneducated dullards should really think twice before they expose their ignorance. You really should think about this.
Posted by: OdessaConnected | Dec 26 2022 23:31 utc | 83
Pot meet kettle.
Posted by: Haassaan | Dec 27 2022 0:08 utc | 87
Likklemore @67–
Don’t know if Medvedev can be considered the “bad cop” when you read Lavrov saying essentially the same things. And Putin has uttered similarities. IMO, there are only realists talking one-line when it comes to the West and the Outlaw US Empire. That’s why I asked the question about Russian media to see if there’s any degree of dissent there, and if so in what direction–more hawkish positions are possible.
I do think given the solidarity of thought that Russia’s friends are clear about Russia’s position and why. Sure, they can all continue to call for a negotiated settlement; but just who are those entreaties aimed at now? Certainly not Russia. What did Lavrov cite above:
If we talk about compromises, then during the “triumphant” visit to the United States, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky said that “a just peace means no compromises.” This is exactly what its “masters” are now guided by: no compromises, we will dictate our will. Therefore, they need to defeat Russia not only on the battlefield, but also inflict a strategic defeat so that no one will be bothered. This is the specificity of the moment. The vast majority of countries in the world see and understand this very well.
IMO, Russia has already adopted that exact position–“a just peace means no compromises”–particularly given the nature of Russia’s opponents–Nazis. Unconditional Surrender means no compromises. That’s the situation the world faces as 2022 turns to 2023. Compared to what was happening one year ago when the future was very uncertain, IMO the future now is very certain–The Outlaw US Empire and its vassals are locked in an existential struggle with the entire world led by Russia, China, India, Iran, and a host of other nations that want an end to the Age of Empire and its Age of Plunder and the return to the already agreed upon Rules of Law that were established back when this ordeal was first waged and thought extinguished. Those nations that will suffer political upheaval are currently run by those trying to deny justice to the world AND their own people. And those internal fires are already lit.
There’s another posting of the Medvedev article (machine translation still) at Amarynth’s site. Thanks always to the Martyanov commenter, Johnny Rotten, who posts invaluable content every day over there. This posting may make for an easier read:
Medvedev: The results of 2022 changed World Order
It’s a long read, but an excellent summary of the situation. Medvedev offers six sections to his treatise:
1. The first result. Nazism is near, but it will not pass
2. The second result. Illusions are over, today we are separated from the Western world much more than we are united
3. The third result. The epidemic of Russophobia requires treatment with strong means
4. The fourth result. The West has put itself in a cage. Let him sit in isolation
5. The fifth result. There will be no apocalypse yet
6. The sixth result. Russia does not “survive”, but lives. Develops and wins
The author AHH in a comment makes these points about Medvedev:
I was thinking a lot of Medvedev recently. He was in many respects the muse and most eloquent and direct Russian voice in these last ten months of the SMO. I hope to submit within the next week a Retrospective of 2022 which has at least three key quotes from him over the last ten months. Sometimes the times make the man.
The voice of Medvedev has surprised us all, I think, in recent times. By his position he has some authority but also some license to send up trial balloons. And increasingly, it seems, the balloons don’t come down, but rather all of Russia (and China, I assume) rise up to the heights of those balloons.
Medvedev is an important voice with the seeming touch of the free spirit about it, very rare for all the pronouncements we hear from Russia, but very prophetic, I think. I recommend the read.
Posted by: Grieved | Dec 27 2022 0:11 utc | 89
@odessaConnected [83
How hard did the Newsmax team have to look for that. Anyway that was the description given by US media a couple of months ago about the USA. Of course it’s Bidens fault except this is about backfiring sanctions. The DEMS and RINO’s are all together busy fucking. FWB when it comes to war and the Empire of lies. Cuba has survived against all the odds. VZ the same.
Republics and Empires never survive.
The day of reckoning is coming. The Empire is going to get CRUSHED! Cheers
Posted by: Cocochanel | Dec 27 2022 0:12 utc | 90
Here’s an explanation for the drone strikes on Engels. They’re using civilian air corridors. It was also mentioned during the 1st attack
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❗ Air defense cannot fully work when civilian aircraft are flying, — retired Colonel of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Mikhail Khodarenok.
The peculiarity of the work of air defense on aircraft is that there should be no civil aviation in the sky for their full-fledged work.
Combat aircraft have a “friend-foe” system, but not on civilian ones.
We have restricted flights in the regions bordering Ukraine and where SMO is conducted. As we can see, the enemy has found a way to strike deep into our territory.
Therefore, in order for air defense to work effectively, it is necessary to limit civil aviation flights not only in the border regions, but also further. Moreover, a Ukrainian drone could hit a civilian aircraft in the air.
The situation is very serious,” Khodarenok said on the radio.
https://t.me/CyberspecNews/14921
Posted by: JohninMK | Dec 27 2022 0:13 utc | 91
Posted by: Snowleopard | Dec 26 2022 23:14 utc | 77
Yes, exactly. Plus the last line of defense against drones are soldiers in relatively open positions with machine guns and laser pointers.
I obviously don’t know what happened, but the odds of an intercepted drone producing casualties is quite high.
In the overall scheme of things, also not a very big deal. There are going to be casualties in war.
Posted by: Haassaan | Dec 27 2022 0:14 utc | 92
Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 26 2022 23:27 utc | 82
I’m pretty confident that, except for the oil and gas price rises, pretty much none of that is going to happen in 2023 (which is not to say some of it might not happen in the future.) He’s just trolling the West.
Posted by: james | Dec 26 2022 23:53 utc | 86
Agreed. Russia isn’t having any problems convincing the parts of the world that matter of the correctness of their actions. The West doesn’t count any more. Essentially they’re all the same as the deluded trolls who post here. So why bother trying to convince the deluded Western masses of anything?
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 27 2022 0:16 utc | 93
They’re using civilian air corridors
1. all civilian aircraft are accounted for. So any unaccounted “UFOs” are naturally suspect. One does not need to be a french literature major to understand this.
2. The border areas are the ones that should be heavily monitored and tracked. Any unidentified craft coming from the enemy side is to be investigated. These are slow flying craft that will stand out from fighter and civil commercial craft.
The impression one gets is that Russian air defences are just not active or even competent.
Posted by: nothing but the trut | Dec 27 2022 0:27 utc | 94
RSH @87–
Thanks for your replies. IMO, we ought to consider how Russia will force NATOstan into an Unconditional Surrender since no compromises are to be allowed it appears–by either side. We’ve already concluded that the Outlaw US Empire and its vassals can’t defeat the RoW–and their deploying nukes is an admission of defeat. I return to what Dr. Wolff said at the end of being interviewed by Sputnik:
“In short, recent history suggests greater stresses imposed upon the US. Its reactions thereto will also likely continue unless social changes inside the US generate new political movements with radically different notions of how to respond to the US decline at home and abroad.”
Hudson and others have said essentially the same thing. The Empire and its Parasites must be destroyed from within politically, although that might entail combat. I haven’t done any sort of investigation into the damage wrought by the recent Arctic storm that again caused massive power outages in Texas–AGAIN–and elsewhere. But I’m certain that the anger is higher this time than the last as plenty of time was available to upgrade the systems so a freeze didn’t KO them again.
And as with Europe, the energy issue is what’s going to generate the political fracture that’s already occurring thanks to the Parasites’s passion for greed.
” 4. The fourth result. The West has put itself in a cage. Let him sit in isolation
Posted by: Grieved | Dec 27 2022 0:11 utc | 90 ”
Statements like the one below dont reflect point #4 at all.
– Russia ready to resume gas supplies to EU – official –
https://www.rt.com/business/568919-russia-gas-supplies-eu-novak/
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Dec 27 2022 0:31 utc | 96
By the way, for those who think they have to wait to read these Russian articles Karl and others post until they’ve been translated, I suggest installing the Mate Translator in your browser. It’s available for iPhone.iPad, Mac Safari, Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, Opera, and Microsoft Edge. It’s not available as an app for Android or Windows desktop.
I have it installed in Firefox on Linux and it works well. It can translate full pages at once or selected passages and Netflix subtitles (although I haven’t used that latter capability, so can’t verify it.) It adds an icon to your bar and when a page in a language other than the native system one appears, it pops up an option to translate to the system native language or any other language. It supports 103 languages, although not all features work on all of them.
Check it out:
https://gikken.co/mate-translate/
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 27 2022 0:31 utc | 97
Posted by: OdessaConnected | Dec 26 2022 23:31 utc | 83
The USA has led western sanctions against Cuba for 6 decades.
Posted by: Simon | Dec 27 2022 0:37 utc | 98
What is suspicious about the Russians claiming that theynhabe twice shot down drones over airfields, is the claim that pieces of the falling drones resulted in casualties each time (2 and 3 – 5 total).
Posted by: Simon | Dec 27 2022 0:39 utc | 99
” Therefore, in order for air defense to work effectively, it is necessary to limit civil aviation flights not only in the border regions, but also further. Moreover, a Ukrainian drone could hit a civilian aircraft in the air.
The situation is very serious,” Khodarenok said on the radio.
Posted by: JohninMK | Dec 27 2022 0:13 utc | 92 ”
Well this is a new one. The way to defeat nation’s air defenses is just to fly your combat aircraft in their civilian air corridors ? Why didn’t the Soviets think of that ? I know why, because its total face saving B.S.
On another note, another member of the Russian government just got ” whacked “, whats the total count now ? This is embarrassing.
– Indian police investigate death of Russian MP –
https://www.rt.com/russia/568961-russian-mp-die-india/
Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Dec 27 2022 0:39 utc | 100