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December 19, 2022
Ukraine – Is There Really A Change Of The Narrative?

In Alastair Crooke's latest piece he discusses the change of narrative that occurred due to The Economist's recent Ukrainian interviews:

The Economist leads with interviews with Zelensky, General Zaluzhny and Ukraine’s military field commander, General Syrsky. All three are interviewed – interviewed in The Economist, no less. Such a thing does not occur by happenstance. It is messaging intended to convey the Ruling Class’ new narrative to the ‘golden billion’ (who will all read and absorb it).

On the surface, it is possible to read The Economist piece as a plea for more money and many more weapons. But the underlying messaging is clear: “Anyone who underestimates Russia is heading for defeat”. The Russian force mobilisation was a success; there is no problem with Russian morale; and Russia is preparing a huge winter offensive that will start soon. Russia has huge reserve forces (of up to 1.2 million men); whereas Ukraine now has 200,000 who are militarily trained for conflict. The ‘writing is on the wall’, in other words. Ukraine cannot win.

Scott Ritter, in discussion with Judge Neapolitano, believes that The Economist interviews reveal the West pushing aside Zelensky – as Zaluzhny administers his large dose of reality (that will be shocking to many sherpa loyalists). The Economist interview emphasis thus was unmistakably on General Zaluzhny, with Zelensky pointedly de-emphasised – which Ritter suggests indicates that Washington wishes to ‘switch leadership horses’. Another ‘message’?

Just to be clear, General Zaluzhny once said he considers himself a disciple of Russian General Gerasimov, the Chief of General Staff. Zaluzhny reportedly is familiar with the latter’s writings. In brief, Zaluzhny is known in Moscow as a professional soldier (albeit one committed to the Ukrainian nationalist cause).

So, is the West preparing its narrative to cut from this unwinnable conflict –Ukraine – and to move on?

That might indeed by a possibility. Could the U.S. and NATO just limp out of the situation and leave it to Zaluzhny to negotiated his defeat with Russia?

But haven't Biden, NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg and Germany's chancellor Scholz said that Russia 'can not be allowed to win'? Sure, they have.

But Crooke points to Afghanistan and how fast the chaotic retreat from Kabul has vanished from the media and is now mostly forgotten. The Taliban were another enemy that could not be allowed to win. They won. And no one cares about it.

I dearly hope that the scenario, as Crooke lays it out, will soon come true in Ukraine. But alas I am a realist. Russia will not stop the war without achieving its aims. Zaluzhny will not be allowed to negotiate for peace.

M. K. Bhadrakumar notes that any peace negotiations depend on Biden's agreement:

The clearest indication that the US is far from in a hurry to negotiate comes from none other than the White House National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan whose visit to Kiev last month (just before the US midterms) had triggered a flurry of speculations that Washington was pressuring President Zelensky to negotiate. 

Now, Sullivan’s remarks at an appearance at the Carnegie last weekend made it clear that the US is in Ukraine for the long haul. He said: 

“We don’t know when this is going to end up. What we do know is that it is our job to continue to sustain our military support to Ukraine so that they are in their best possible position on the battlefield, that if and when diplomacy is ripe, they will be in the best possible position at the negotiating table. 

“That moment is not ripe now, and so, as a result, we’ve gone to Congress and asked for a substantial amount of further resources to be able to continue to ensure that Ukraine has the means to fight this war. We’re confident we will get bipartisan support for that… 

“I am not going to precept the future, I’m only going to assure that in the present we are doing everything we can to maximise Ukraine’s chances of defending its sovereignty and territorial integrity… yes, it is likely to go on for quite some time…”

Basically, the US claims to have a winning hand in Ukraine.

The Economist interviews were published on December 15. The Sullivan talk at Carnegie was held a day later. If there had been a change of mind in the White House it would have been part of that interview.

I also think that Zaluzhny is not the kind of leader who is likely to organize, or allow himself to be drawn into a coup. In fact it may well be that the rumors from Kiev are true and that Zelensky and his staff are working to push him out. He would be replaced by the other Ukrainian general The Economist had interviewed:

On several occasions, [General Syrsky] was actually senior in the chain of command to Valery Zaluzhny, appointed to be the commander-in-chief of the entire armed forces in July 2021. Some political actors behind the scenes may be using that fact in an apparent attempt to foment tensions between the two. Rumours even persist that the presidential administration might be inclined to replace the popular but independent-minded General Zaluzhny with his former boss. Cracks of disunity have high-placed Western military officials worried. The two generals on their part say they fully trust each other and wish to stay out of politics. General Syrsky is uncomfortable with the conversation. “The army is outside of politics,” he says. “It is how it should be, and how the law demands it to be.”

Neither Zaluzhny nor Syrsky are men for a coup. If Zelenski is to go, some other politician, probably a more radical one, is likely to take the lead.

As Bhadrakumar concludes:

Therefore, in the prevailing circumstances, Russia’s option narrows down to inflicting a crushing defeat on Ukraine in the coming months and installing a government in Kiev that is not under Washington’s control. But that requires a fundamental shift in the Russian military strategy, which would factor in the real possibility of a confrontation with the US and NATO at some point.

Even while they are still deluded about Ukraine's chance for success, neither NATO nor the White House have shown any appetite for war with Russia. They have likely come to understand the real meaning of General Zaluzhny's request:

I know that I can beat this enemy. But I need resources. I need 300 tanks, 600-700 IFVs, 500 Howitzers. Then, I think it is completely realistic to get to the lines of February 23rd.

At the start of the war Ukraine had, at least on paper, a well equipped military:

Ukraine has a lot of tanks and is ranked 13th across the globe with 2,430. In terms of armored vehicles, Kiev also ranks high, occupying the seventh spot globally with 11,435. Kiev’s artillery power is also formidable at 2,040 batteries.

That General Zaluzhny requested all that new stuff is a confession that most if not all the old stuff is gone. That includes the weapons he received after the war started. If the 20 percent of the Russian military that was used in Ukraine could do so much material damage in such a short time how long would a NATO army in a war against Russia survive?

Comments

Medvedev. Late in life has found his true calling…. The-Real-Kremlin-Troll:
Medvev:(in response to Sunak)All British politicians are rare morons and hypocrites.
We hear their young prime minister with a previously uncharacteristic for Foggy Albion last name:
“until Russia withdraws its troops from the territory of Ukraine, there can be no negotiations.”
This despite the fact that Anglo-Saxons keep stressing out of all the holes that “Ukrainians themselves will decide whether to negotiate with us or not”.
Thus they are saying lies, showing their duplicity and outrageous cynicism.
Better let the British finally dump the Malvinas Islands and return them to the Argentines. The Falklands are not Britain, but Argentina!
And we congradulate Argentine national team with a well-deserved victory in football. Keep it up in the field of foreign policy!

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 20 2022 4:41 utc | 201

thank you, b, thank you karlof for suggesting it as a thread topic, thank mr. crooke, psychohistorian, rsh, peterUA1 & james. imo, mother knows, as do china, iran & the row, this is going to take years…so mother guards her resources & men, china works to conclude what needs to be done finishing ew & weapons & securing her fortune (thank you ph for your brilliant views yesterday on china stuffing her treasuries in the cayman/bahamas—home to much of the banker’s cabal blood & treasure & highly unlikely to be sanctioned, brilliant!). much work is being done under the covers, backrooms & little hits the light of media or our notice, primarily to keep the empire docile & believing its own lies & hubris. i’ve searched bt cannot find, yesterday possibly the day before i read blinken say publicly that the struggle with russia will be for 30 or so years. this was the first time i’d read it acknowledged, certainly michael hudson has said this is the time frame, bt i’ve never heard it admitted by the empire. imo russia & the row all know this axis shift will be quick in historical terms bt slow to those of us living through it. everyone is guarding their resources, knowing it’s for the good of mother & the world to go slowly. let the dollar ride so long as it can, do not rush, do not force the empire to become anymore unhinged than it already is. imo the empire will attempt what it believes to be a feint, like afghanistan, withdraw inexplicably. this will not surprise or be unexpected to mother nor her allies. the banking cartel/empire will fester & erupt in kosovo? ukraine can be left to fester, if need be, send a few infamous expendable weapon systems while distracting mother with bigger endless wars on her borders. mother knows this, expects this, & is ready, waiting. this war is existential, mother has always known only the west is slowly awakening to the struggle. the empire is desperate, the bio weapons will continue, as crooke has pointed out we in the west are sufficiently dazzled by mass formation psychosis & fear to submit to all lies & simply obey. mother & the row are sanely pursuing the agreed upon goal, the end of the empire of lies, chaos & darkness.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Dec 20 2022 4:42 utc | 202

@ Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 19 2022 23:06 utc | 114
QUAD is already dead. Could not even produce a communique. Doubt it may ever convene again.
Hence shift to the new Guam/Diego Garcia, Australia. Aus & Jap military bilateral, including joint training/deployments/’basing'(transitioning). Bringing in Japan to replace India in QUAD. Japan committing ~$320B+ armaments increase, openly defying its own constitution, partnering with US re Hypersonics development.
@ oldhippie | Dec 20 2022 0:04 utc | 132
@ unimperator | Dec 20 2022 0:12 utc | 136
Indeed & intentionally so as a second order objective by Empire, IMO.
@ Melaleuca | Dec 20 2022 4:15 utc | 194
Burns & the CIA are lying & misdirecting deliberately … it’s their role & their duty to convincingly believe what their spewing. See: Piece-rates equivalents, abrogated, neofuedelfarce, billsmith, blissex, experienced, moaobserver, OohCanada, et al.
@ Biswapriya Purkayast | Dec 20 2022 1:57 utc | 160
Er, no. MI6/CIA incite/co-ordinate/back & direct coups. The puppets & expendables step forward & carry them out.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 20 2022 5:04 utc | 203

Hey, Poland; Tell me you are training mercs, without acknowledging you are training mercs:

The Polish MoD has been launching since January another action “Train with the army”.
This is a series of free trainings for civilians, which includes several hours of training in survival skills, first aid and handling weapons.
Last time they were held in autumn and all those who have reached the age of majority and have Polish citizenship were allowed to attend classes.
The first training lasted two months (October-November), during which 4000 people were trained.
[[kinda fits with the numbers in the new Polish cemetery the bar commented on a month or so back]]
The promotion will last seven weeks — from January 14 to February 25.
The dates are adjusted taking into account holidays and vacations…
This time, minors can also take part in the trainings: everyone from 15 to 65 years old (with the consent of a parent/guardian) is expected in military units.
Participants are provided with insurance and meals.
Volunteers who arrive at their chosen unit will receive uniforms and will perform exercises under the supervision of military instructors during the day.
The Polish army recruits volunteers from 15 to 65 years old for military training.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 20 2022 5:09 utc | 204

Richard Steven Hack | Dec 20 2022 4:33 utc | 198
I see the joint Russian military operations in Belarus more as a deterrent to Nato/Polish idiocy and also what Ritter calls a pinning operation that keeps a good chunk of Ukraine forces tied up at the Belarus border. Going by what Lukashenko has said and continues to say, I doubt Belarus would be involved in military operation in Ukraine.
On numbers, non political sections in pentagon would have a good idea. If Macgregor is getting his numbers from there as what he says indicates, he wont be naming his sources. Perhaps I read Macgregor wrong but he he comes across as honest and a realist. Russia wont be giving out any numbers.
Lukashenko spoke of Iskander’s and S-400. Large numbers of Iskander launchers have been railed westward in recent months. Russian personnel operating these systems? Poland is heavily involved in Ukraine. Those missiles could strike deep into either Poland or Ukraine if required.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 20 2022 5:16 utc | 205

@ Outraged | Dec 20 2022 5:04 utc | 201
Mistaken mis-attribution. Apologies OohCanada.
@ Peter AU1 | Dec 20 2022 5:16 utc | 203
Objective, frank/realist re purely military operational matters re Ukraine when taken in isolation, yet IMO, suggest always taking into account MacGregor is a die-hard Republican Conservative & true believer in US hegemony & exceptional nation status, Monroe Doctrine, re coloring of analysis. A committed political enemy of the current faux incumbents(Alternate puppet faction, of the one party faux State), the Dems. Delusionally believes Russia should be an ally re the ‘true’ mission … confronting & breaking up China …

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 20 2022 5:41 utc | 206

karlof1:
You seem confused by a couple of things. First, North American hydrocarbons. Canada’s got huge reserves with no access to int’l markets. The Keystone will get done, eventually. There is plenty of oil in North America. There is also, currently, government attitudes that forestall its production. They are only temporary.
Second, you seem to think the Trump tariffs, which have been in place for five years, are responsible for the US inflation. I invite you to examine US M2 Money Supply. The unprecedented leap of nearly 20% in six months – a jump of 5% a year had NEVER happened before – from Biden’s installation in early 2020 is the sole cause of the inflation we are seeing right now. There isn’t space here to give the basic economics, but the tl;dr is when you create 20% more money without creating any more goods, prices MUST rise.

Posted by: FrankDrakman | Dec 20 2022 5:42 utc | 207

Ukraine’s top general, Zaluzhny, posted a video message on Facebook (!) today, urging Zelensky to sign into law a bill providing for harsher penalties for desertion and insubordination.
Why would anyone need to urge Zelensky to sign a bill enacted by his own party? Why would Zaluzhny have to make a Facebook video to communicate with his own president? None of this makes sense.
But remember, Ukraine is all about the PR. The actual audience Zaluzhny is addressing is not Zelensky, but the troops. Judging by the Telegram chatter, they are once again posting social media messages about being abandoned by their commanders to bleed out and die, lacking food and ammunition, being given suicidal orders, etc. The last time this was rampant, back in May-June, the Ukrainian frontline in Donbass crumbled from Lisichansk to Krasny Lyman.
Now there are reports the Russian troops have taken the center of Marynka and are making further advances all over, including the Bakhmut/Artyomovsk meat grinder. Could it be that the frontline is about to crack again? Otherwise, why would Kiev start going after deserters — real or imagined? I guess we’ll see, but reading between the lines, it sure seems that way.

https://t.me/sitreports/2324

Posted by: Down South | Dec 20 2022 5:50 utc | 208

Posted by: Gt Stroller | Dec 19 2022 22:44 utc | 104
“I can tell you that on the doorsteps of the provincial towns of Northern England, people are barely aware of the war in the Ukraine, let alone being determined that Russia must be totally defeated.”
And that is why we hoi polloi are always in the ordure…because as a mass we do not keep up with what our elites get us into.
Every pound or dollar spent on Ukraine and such American adventurism – and almost certainly lost -will be one less dollar spent on those northern UK provincial -town citizens. Less money for them when they are doddering old fools peeing their pants in some decrepit aged -care home, less education for their grandchildren who will be lucky to have a job flipping burgers a la Americaine and less hospital and medical care for grandpa, middle -aged Children and grandchildren when they inevitably get sick.
As for attacking Russia, they will, as they will be told it is for the national interest and “the Russians are coming”. Goering of WW II knew this , and said he could make any population of any stripe go to war for both his and his party’s benefit.
That is we such “deplorables” as a group ,really ought to read a book ,and not just watch the Nightly news where we are fed propaganda , and some of us take false pride in not being “brainwashed like those Russkies are”.
It is enough to make you cry.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 20 2022 5:59 utc | 209

It is hard to predict what Washington will do because they are all petty and all crazy. Can’t predict what crazy people do next.
ole hippie i forget the number
amen.

Posted by: polarbear4 | Dec 20 2022 6:00 utc | 210

the new puppet in peru is saying that people are mad maybe cuz she’s a woman. so western.
she’s another guiado that they installed like lightning. many dead people. the real people of the country. too bad they’ve already bought and trained the militaries in these countries.

Posted by: polarbear4 | Dec 20 2022 6:03 utc | 211

Peskov
Shoigu
Lavrov
All in Belarus together today.
All amused by simple scribbler scurrying to source something scurrilous:
Peskov: Zaluzhny; he needs to rest. He is overworked. (Satisfied smirk).
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/37882
(No account needed to access)
(And. The US had a spy drone doing laps all day, like a demented blowfly, right along the PolishLithuania v Belarus border.)

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 20 2022 6:18 utc | 212

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_Mountain_pipeline

Trans Mountain Expansion Project
On June 18, 2013, Kinder Morgan filed an application with the Canadian National Energy Board pursuant to Part III of the National Energy Board Act[16] to build a second pipeline under the Trans Mountain Pipeline Expansion Project.[17] The second pipeline was to run roughly parallel to the existing pipeline, between Edmonton and Burnaby, (east of Vancouver) and to be used to transport diluted bitumen, also known as dilbit. The additional pipeline requires 12 new pumping stations. The proposed expansion, with 980 kilometres (610 mi) of pipe, would increase the system’s capacity from 300,000 barrels per day (48,000 m3/d) to 890,000 barrels per day (141,000 m3/d). An investment of $7.4 billion would complete the connection between Strathcona County, Alberta, and Burnaby, British Columbia.[18]

Trans Mountain says expansion project is now 50% complete https://www.burnabynow.com/local-news/trans-mountain-says-expansion-project-is-now-50-complete-5278696

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 20 2022 6:26 utc | 213

@ Melaleuca | Dec 20 2022 6:18 utc | 210 with the Belarus update….thanks
I don’t know if the Belarus/Russia activity heated up the foreign exchange markets today or not but the Russia Ruble took something like a 4% hit in relation to the US dollar today but the US future markets tonight are down more than they normally let them go and seem reflective of serious stress.
What is that straw going to be that breaks this camel’s back?
The shit show continues until it doesn’t

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 20 2022 6:26 utc | 214

Bunker fuel for the U.S. Pacific fleet will not be cancelled … https://www.transmountain.com/planning-the-route [see Sumas branch to Cherry point refineries in Washington.] …

Posted by: Laurence | Dec 20 2022 6:40 utc | 215

@Peter AU1 | Dec 19 2022 23:13 utc | 115

From what I can make out, the Brits back Zelensky but the US is promoting Zaluzhny.

From what I can make out, Zaluzhny has made a video of himself with a picture of Bandera in the background.
Btw. I read in Sputnik News yesterday that “At least 230 people in Australia have suffered delirium, fever and heart problems after eating contaminated spinach”.

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 20 2022 6:43 utc | 216

@LightYearsFromHome | Dec 19 2022 23:32 utc | 121

Unless he has a mental breakdown I think Zelensky has a lot more mileage in him.

It is rather obvious that Zelensky is far gone into the process of mental breakdown, talking about things like “recapturing Crimea in our minds” etc.
This is “Downfall” level of mental breakdown.

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 20 2022 6:49 utc | 217

Norwegian | Dec 20 2022 6:43 utc | 214
It will be interesting to watch palace politics in Ukraine. It is a brainwashed society with neo-nazi skinhead gangs holding power on the streets.
As to Australian spinach, I guess its just not the right variety https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.TnOHTx_EOWvIQNFRti241QHaLx?pid=ImgDet&rs=1
I get some of those symptoms if I run out of booze.
I saw the headlines but haven’t bothered to look into it. I would guess food quality regulators are as corrupt as the aircraft and medical regulators.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 20 2022 7:00 utc | 218

“… I get some of those symptoms if I run out of booze.”
@PeterAu.
Lol. 😎
Re QUAD.
Sure, it’s failed as India has proven to be too independent.
But also. The / a purpose of the QUAD was to soften Aussies into a pact with players beyond ANZUS.
If they straight out said our role was as a “lillypad” from which to launch nukes at China, some people might demure…. Even those ambivalent about China are not too keen on Oz being directly involved in missile exchanges…

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 20 2022 7:38 utc | 219

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 20 2022 5:16 utc | 203
Right. Supplying Iskanders is one of the upgrades Putin is giving Belarus along with nuke-carrying MiGs to counter the Aegis Ashore stuff. This is one reason I think Putin will do the same in Ukraine once it’s been brought to heel. The tight military alliance is just more of the same. I expect Ukraine to look like that after this is all over, whatever Russia has to do to make it happen.
Posted by: Outraged | Dec 20 2022 5:41 utc | 204
Yes, Macgregor is your standard Trump Republican. I don’t care, I’m just interested in his military opinion – to a point. He’s also one of these who thinks Russia will stop at the Dnieper, with which I (and Scott Ritter) vehemently disagree. My guess is people of his sort who believe that are subconsciously afraid that Russia will succeed in taking all of Ukraine and thus inflicting a massive defeat for NATO, which by extension includes the US – which offends them as patriots, as well as stirring up their basic dislike of Russia (as Scott Ritter likes to say, he spent the ’80’s learning to kill Russians). Macgregor, of course, spent most of his career doing the same (when he wasn’t killing Muslims.)

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 20 2022 7:46 utc | 220

The next narrative is going to be Kosovo, ако Бог да, probably overnight, like plandemic/Putin switch.

Posted by: mataj | Dec 20 2022 7:50 utc | 221

Battlefield vid:
t.me/milchronicles

Dec01
The head of the Russian Foreign Ministry also noted that the United States is trying to drag India into its military alliances, but they refused.
And then they began to create new military alliances like AUKUS, which only increases tension in the region.

https://twitter.com/TaranQ/status/1598265155091304448
> NATO is playing with fire off the coast of China – this carries risks for Moscow, so we are increasing cooperation with Beijing, Lavrov said.
> Lavrov – to the question “How can one explain Russia’s attacks on infrastructure, including in Kherson, which Russia considers its own?”:
Well, we have the city of Stalingrad was our territory.
And we beat the Germans there, and beat them so much that they ran away.
> We remember how NATO was created.
Mr. Ismay has deduced a formula–to keep Russians out of Europe,the Americans in Europe,and the Germans under control.
The Americans have enslaved the whole of Europe,and they keep not only the Germans, but also the entire EU under control.
PUTIN: (vid)
“The situation in the DPR, LPR, as well as in the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions remains extremely difficult, Vladimir Putin said… “It is necessary to severely suppress the actions of foreign special services, quickly identify traitors, spies and saboteurs”
https://twitter.com/vicktop555/status/1605094212793417728

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 20 2022 8:15 utc | 222

Listening to The Duran from Monday morning. Mercouris lays out four big meetings Putin and his team have had over the last half week or so. First there was the Security Council meeting, then the meeting with the SMO coordinating committee which coordinates the military forces taking part in the SMO, then the trip to Belarus to meet Lukashenko, and apparently there will now be another meeting with the “military collegium” which entails talking to the entire Russian military not just the SMO portion.
One could I suppose consider all these meetings, other than the Belarus one, as a sort of “end-of-year roundup” before breaking for the holidays – or one could suspect that there is definitely something big coming on the military front, and everything needs to have the i’s dotted and the t’s crossed before it kicks off.
If I had to spitball a guess, I’d guess that whatever Russia is planning will kick off after the holidays and after the soldiers have had their Christmas cheer, if that’s what Russian soldiers do. So sometime in January, perhaps. A present to Ukraine for the New Year. My secondary guess would be they wait until exactly one year has passed since the start of the SMO, which would be in late February. But there’s no particular reason to do that other than the PR value.
Again, though, this may turn out to not be a “big arrow” offensive, but a continuation – but at a much higher level of intensity – of the “grinding” strategy. After all, we’re getting tired of the pace of this current grinding, and I suspect the Russian are, too. So they might just up it so that instead of 500-1,000 Ukrainians dying every day, it jumps to 2,000. People keep talking about “endless supply of Ukrainian soldiers (and NATO soldiers). Well, as I’ve said before, the more bodies you cram into the kill zone, the only result is the body count goes up, if the enemy can’t actually overwhelm you. Which in this sort of war is rather difficult when your artillery outnumbers them ten to one (and that was the alleged ration before the new guys arrived.)
Ukraine has probably lost 400,000 men already in ten months. In the next four or five, they might lose double that.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 20 2022 8:37 utc | 223

Ukraine soldiers sent to front lines are cannon fodder, to what cause? winning cause? losing cause? previously agreed upon depopulation cause?
Ukraine soldiers sent to front lines are cannon fodders, to what cause? winning cause? losing cause? Previously agreed upon depopulation cause?
Drugs and AFU

Posted by: gingling | Dec 20 2022 8:53 utc | 224

There isn’t space here to give the basic economics, but the tl;dr is when you create 20% more money without creating any more goods, prices MUST rise.
Posted by: FrankDrakman | Dec 20 2022 5:42 utc | 207
That’s the trouble with basic economics. It’s basic. A bit like heavier than air flight is clearly impossible because we don’t have wings. The reality of the dynamics is a little more complex.
If I create money and give it to you and you put it in a drawer, how does that cause prices to rise? It has to be in a drawer because if it flowed it would be taxed which would make it go away over a number of transactions and it wouldn’t then show up on the balance sheet.
Money that shows up on the national balance sheet is saved, or it wouldn’t be there. And savings don’t cause inflation. Which means the root cause of the problem is something else.
The issues we have at present are due to damage to production capacity because of lockdown, wars, and a general trend towards a generation that doesn’t appear to believe working hard is necessary. It’s not an increase in demand that is the problem. It’s a reduction in supply.

Posted by: The Accountant | Dec 20 2022 9:01 utc | 225

Just published ‘Is the war in Ukraine entering its decisive phase?’, part 1 of an edited summary of the YouTube recorded discussions between Johns Hopkins University emeritus professor Michael Vlahos and retired colonel Douglas Macgregor. The bottom line is that the Russians aim for full victory in Ukraine, a Polish TV station already showed post-war maps dividing the country between Russia, Poland, Hungary and Romania, with a neutral Ukrainian rump state remaining. The link is:
https://geopolitiekincontext.wordpress.com/2022/12/20/hoe-moskou-de-navo-in-oekraine-het-nakijken-geeft-1/
The ‘Google translate’ tool in the top right corner will translate the article into any language.

Posted by: Paul-Robert | Dec 20 2022 9:04 utc | 226

Every pound or dollar spent on Ukraine and such American adventurism – and almost certainly lost -will be one less dollar spent on those northern UK provincial -town citizens.
As for attacking Russia, they will, as they will be told it is for the national interest and “the Russians are coming”.
Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 20 2022 5:59 utc | 209

People are preoccupied with working to make ends meet as they struggle to keep their homes warm and their kids properly fed. They don’t have the spare time to educate themselves on the reasons why they’re being pushed into such dire straits. They do correctly intuit that it’s due to how crap the people running the show are.
They will not go out to fight anyone on the say-so of such crap people. If they were told “the Russians are coming”, they’d say, “So what? They can’t make a worse job of running the place than you have”.

Posted by: Gt Stroller | Dec 20 2022 9:26 utc | 227

[201]
The Falklands are not Britain, but Argentina!
NEVER in recorded human history has Argentina had any sovereign claim to the Falkland Islands either by treaty or by conquest………NEVER.

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Dec 20 2022 10:20 utc | 228

Imo, 1Q2023 …
1. General Zaluzhny has signalled that the time for the white flag will be when he is forced into the “Finland” scenario situation. Implications are/were March 2023’ish.
2. Zelenski (the actor) — the jestor king and “Lord of Misrule” will be sacrificed after his “30 days” and slip out the back door (exit stage left) to a 5-Star never-ending party with a “10-$billion” new-face and tribal (and white nose-powder) buddy, Jeffery Epstein et al.

Posted by: imo | Dec 20 2022 10:22 utc | 229

Listening to Colonel Macgregor’s latest with Judge Napolitano. Judge just asked him about the numbers Russia has available, including what is in Belarus.
First Macgregor says Putin talked about 200,000 new troops, which Macgregor thinks is actually more. Since the call-up was for 300,000 plus some 70,000 volunteers, I don’t know where he gets that number. Then he says he expects Russia to have 700,000 available by January. He says cut that number in half, where half of the 700,000 are support personnel including fire support, and the rest are combat.
Then he says most of the Belarussian troops total about 75,000 (I’ve read at least 25,000 less), but most of them are deployed against the borders of Poland and Lithuania. But Belarus will do whatever is necessary to support Russian operations against Ukraine.
Then he says Russia will have a secure support base for “at least 100-150,000 troops attacking north to south.”
This is a significant difference from 200,000 troops. Now it’s half to 2/3rds his original number.
I’ve decided he doesn’t know what the numbers are, he’s just speculating based on what he would do if he were Putin. I understand that, I do it, too. But it doesn’t make it true.
He further says that he believes it very possible that the neocons will push Biden into using Poland, which is itching to start a war with Russia, to intervene directly into Ukraine with US support.
He has a new op-ed in The American Conservative Tuesday. Probably a good idea to read it. It’s a very short piece.
Washington Is Prolonging Ukraine’s Suffering
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/washington-is-prolonging-ukraines-suffering/

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 20 2022 10:25 utc | 230

Brother Ma [209]
will be one less dollar spent on those northern UK provincial -town citizens. Less money for them when they are doddering old fools peeing their pants in some decrepit aged -care home,
You clearly live on the dark side of the moon. (1) Dollars are not spent in UK. (2) “northern provincial-town” are in fact some of the biggest cities in UK……..after London and Birmingham the biggest cities in UK are ALL in the North
Considering UK is spending £35 billion on the EU 2020-2027 Ukraine looks to be chickenfeed

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Dec 20 2022 10:28 utc | 231

Ukraine soldiers sent to front lines are cannon fodder, to what cause? winning cause? losing cause? previously agreed upon depopulation cause?
Ave Caesar, morituri te salutant
The General
BY SIEGFRIED SASSOON
“Good-morning, good-morning!” the General said
When we met him last week on our way to the line.
Now the soldiers he smiled at are most of ’em dead,
And we’re cursing his staff for incompetent swine.
“He’s a cheery old card,” grunted Harry to Jack
As they slogged up to Arras with rifle and pack.
But he did for them both by his plan of attack.

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Dec 20 2022 10:32 utc | 232

@ Richard Steven Hack | Dec 20 2022 10:25 utc | 230
There is also the matter of the Chechen SF/CQB Urban Assault Troops graduating each & every month for 11 months now.
‘Fire Support’ are support troops ?
Gunners manning Arty/MBRLS & associated kit (CB Radars) would object to not being ‘Combat Arms’ for starters. In this conflict they are high priority targets for deadly retaliatory fire. Agreed, his figures & estimates are all over the place & apparently off the cuff personal speculation based on ?

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 20 2022 10:54 utc | 233

Posted by: Down South | Dec 20 2022 5:50 utc | 208
One could I suppose consider all these meetings, other than the Belarus one, as a sort of “end-of-year roundup” before breaking for the holidays – or one could suspect that there is definitely something big coming on the military front, and everything needs to have the i’s dotted and the t’s crossed before it kicks off.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 20 2022 8:37 utc | 223
I too wonder what is coming up, but I think that it could be more than just a military extension of the SMO. Putin is clearly anxious to do things properly, ie legally. From his perspective the 4 oblasts are now legally part of Russia, and they are partly occupied by another country, who continues to attack these regions, and other parts of Russia.
Russia has been conducting a SMO against that other country, who has not backed down, but continued to fight with the support of external countries. These external countries have been gradually ramping up the technological level of supplied arms, and the range of those arms, and have foreshadowed that these arms will continue to climb in technological level.
Russia is conducting an SMO at the moment and to move beyond the SMO would require consultations at the highest level within Russia, and briefings and consultations with Russia’s closest allies, particularly Belarus. This appears to be happening.
Looking at what has been happening over the last week, I can’t help thinking that Russia has taken a decision to move beyond the SMO, and give Ukraine an ultimatum to unconditionally surrender, with the alternative that Russia declares formal War. In this case any arms supplied to Ukraine by a Western country would automatically lead to war with that supplying country.
It may be that crunch time has arrived.
From my understanding, Putin is reluctant to move to escalation, but is fully prepared to take hard decisions when necessary. Also, Putin does not bluff.

Posted by: Ross | Dec 20 2022 10:59 utc | 234

Eventually, NATO will just announce that it’s moving troops into Ukraine.
Western soldiers and specialists are already there, grudgingly admitted by stupid NATO leaders.
That’s the trajectory, imo.
Russia is winning, Ukraine is losing despite all the help it’s getting.
Hell, if it wasn’t for NATO help, this war would be over.
Either the West gives in, or it pushes more chips in.
I say, as I’ve always said, stay the fuck out of Russias way on this.
What damage to the average western citizen is Russia doing?
The West cutting its nose off to spite its face is way overplayed by now.
Give the world a break from this madness.

Posted by: Theodore Roosevelt | Dec 20 2022 11:09 utc | 235

Roger @ 179
Yes, the Banderites have used the years since 2014 to instill nationalism and other delusions. There is a result of that effort. OTOH we do not see, have not been shown an example of, young Ukrainian men flocking to the recruiting station. We do see men being dragooned into service. We see press gangs and kidnapings.
The exception of course is the bully battalions of Azov, Kraken, etcetera. Big advantage to joining up with them is the peasants are sent to front rank to die while Azov stands at a remove. If Azov member gets hit by shrapnel from stray ordnance a kilometer behind the front line they get priority ambulance and medical service. Great recruiting tool. And they still won’t take you if you do not have at least some pretence to being middle class. Upper class? You’re an officer from day one.

Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 20 2022 11:16 utc | 236

RSH – 223
Worth remembering that the Orthodox celebrate Christmas on 7th of January. So if Putin waits for the holidays to be over, nothing will happen until the 8th or 9th. On the other hand, Putin might as well troll the West and take advantage of the situation by making some big move on 24th or 25th of December – though ideally this would be a big and short push that would be over by the 30th/31st and then back to defense or siege.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Dec 20 2022 11:18 utc | 237

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 20 2022 10:54 utc | 233
“‘Fire Support’ are support troops ?”
It’s right there in the description. 🙂 They’re “supporting the actual combat troops.” Also all other “support troops” except those who are way behind the lines are also potentially subject to artillery. I guess one is “support” if one isn’t actively shooting directly at the enemy. That’s why artillery is called “fire support”; you’re usually firing from way behind the front lines, even if in modern war that isn’t far enough.
The Wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_support It pretty much says that. However, it might be wrong.
FM3-90 says otherwise, classifying artillery as part of the “combat” function.
“Combat Arms” includes:
Air Defense Artillery
Armor
Aviation
Engineers
Field Artillery
Infantry
Special Operations Forces
“Comnbat Support Arms” includes:
Combat Support
Aviation (Aviation is also in both categories, presumably distinguishing between fighters and bombers, and transport)
Chemical Corps
Engineers (Engineers are also in both categories, presumably based on their roles)
Military Intelligence
Military Police Corps
Signal Corps
Special Operations Forces (These are also in both categories.)
Combat Service Support includes:
Combat Service Support
Adjutant General Corps
Aviation (Now in all three categories)
Chaplain Corps
Finance Corps
Engineers (Also in all three categories)
Medical Corps
Ordnance Corps
Quartermaster Corps
Transportation Corps
So I think he simply included “fire support” in the “support” half to distinguish it from the troops who are directly engaging the enemy “the old-fashioned way”, via infantry and armor. Macgregor being an armored unit commander in the Gulf War, that makes sense. Or perhaps it was a slip of the tongue. Who knows?

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 20 2022 11:26 utc | 238

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 20 2022 8:37 utc | 223
Let’s assume that there was actually a plan for some attack from Belarus. In that case, it might be actually beneficial to allow Nato arms transfer to the east in Donbass. If they are there, there is no buildup in west Ukraine, or not that large build-up at least. If it’s too hard for Nato transport stuff to the east, the stuff would all pile up closer to the Polish border, and Belarus. Everything is a trade-off in this sence.
Of course despite this, ukies have build up some kind of lines on the Belarusian border.
Not claiming to know anything, just another option.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 20 2022 11:41 utc | 239

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 20 2022 6:49 utc | 217
not only that, i expect he has a coke habit, which is not going to help his mental stability

Posted by: pretzelattack | Dec 20 2022 11:42 utc | 240

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Dec 20 2022 11:18 utc | 237
Orthodox Christmas in Russia?
I agree about the timing of Putin’s planned actions, but just wish to correct the fact of an “Orthodox “Christmas.
I could be wrong but most Orthodox nations NOW celebrate Christmas on Dec 25 like Catholics and Protestants etc. It is only on Mt Athos -Orthodoxy’s “Vatican” – and Russia that Christmas is still celebrated on the OLD Julian calendar ; which still reads as Dec25th but falls on Jan 7th of our scientifically accurate Gregorian calendar. The latter calendar ,being the one used by the churches most recently is thus usually the “secular calendar”.
Like I said , I could be wrong , and am happy to be corrected by those who know more.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 20 2022 11:44 utc | 241

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Dec 20 2022 10:28 utc | 231
Dear Paul, you are clearly a pedantic prig. I clearly say “pound or dollar” which readers here would understand means I cater for the British , Europeans and Americans etc. We do not have the luxury or time to be writing papers for publishing here.
Unless I am mistaken, nowhere did write that Birmingham is not a major town, or even mention Birmingham at all , and who gave you the right to presume I don’t know Britain?
You have taken all I have said and gone off on a tangent. Nothing you say has affected the truth of my post. All money spent on Ukraine is money not spent on Britons ,Europeans ,Americans or any other of the latter’s vassals. Britain’s total spend on the EU or Ukraine is thus frankly … irrelevant.
Next time you write to me be a little less presumptive and patronising.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 20 2022 11:59 utc | 242

If it comes down to the Russians only being able to end the war or ensure Ukrainian neutrality through installing it’s own government in Kiev, then that means the door will be wide open for the US to turn Ukraine into another Syria, an unending civil ethnic war, they already achieved this in the Donbass but this will be on another scale and unlike in the Donbass, will not be another Russia can fight with proxy forces but will require it’s own soldiers.
People can criticise the Russian decision to keep casualties and destruction down on what the considered their ethnic cousins in an attempt to try to find a way to live together after the war rather than have this war become an epochal moment that turns Ukrainians deeply against Russians for generations. But the trap the neocons set for the Russians, what Mearsheimer called ‘the porcupine’ would be the attempted occupation of say everything East of the Dneiper which includes lots of areas with hardly any Russians and vast amounts of ethnic Ukrainians. A fully indigenous or Western-supported insurgency and terrorism campaign could then occupy Russian security and military forces to a non-trivial degree and cause constant political distractions.
The Russians have been trying to avoid that trap as well as trying to avoid another Grozny by trying to avoid urban combat. People talk about Kherson, what would a battle for Kiev be like?
From the start this all seemed like the worst case scenario. Just how would the Russians ensure Ukrainian neutrality if the very act of a large scale invasion would itself seem to justify Ukrainian hostility and military alliance with the West? Even if that very policy had brought about the war in the first place, afterwards the die is cast.
You can replace the government but how will you ensure that government stays in place?
So Putin opted for the most reasonable course of action, a limited war to take away the Donbass and Luhansk in order to end the ethnic civil war in those places and with an end to the civil war, the open wound on the border would be gone. The dangerous situation of what Washington would surely ensure would be an unending ethnic war between Russians and Ukrainians on the border would be gone, no more simmering tensions that could erupt into who knows what.
Putin also hoped that his very action of a full-scale mobilisation would deter the Americans, the war itself and demonstrating a willingness to use force in defence of it’s ‘red lines’ was a major objective.
However the transference of ‘Trump derangement syndrome’ over to Putin during and after the 2016 election among those who should be the greatest opponents of these neocon horrors has meant little incentive for the US or West to stop. They can’t tell you why they hated Putin and they don’t remember that it was Trump’s aversion to the neocon intervention in Syria that began the propaganda of him being ‘Putin’s puppet’ or that the Russians had hacked the DNC or indeed the election. (How they hacked all those former life-long Democrats in the Great Lakes states that won Trump the election despite them using paper ballots is unknown) This moment, when progressive liberals in the US became essentially neocons on Russia, has led to a situation where the entire intellectual elite of the US is in lock stop more or less. Dissenters are cowed.
I fear social media has inclined a whole generation of people to take very public very aggressive stances on things like Putin and Russia and that the collective ego of the upper middle classes can’t accept they were duped.
And now what does Putin do? What can truly end this war? The death toll will be very large whatever the answer. At least 50-60 thousand Ukrainian soldiers will need to die. Since the price of any Russian victory is being played with house money (Ukrainian blood and soil) there is zero incentive for the US to do anything but keep this war going just like Syria.
Thus the idea of the Russians creating a ‘DMZ’ with the accompanying depopulation of an area perhaps the size of Italy seems a distinct possibility.

Posted by: Altai | Dec 20 2022 12:00 utc | 243

A change of narrative? >> https://www.rt.com/business/568567-eu-countries-order-russian-oil/
EU countries order more Russian oil – Transneft
The crude sent through the Druzhba pipeline does not fall under the EU embargo
Germany and Poland have requested pipeline oil deliveries from Russia for 2023, the head of state oil supplier Transneft, Nikolay Tokarev, said in an interview with Russia 24 TV on Monday.
Both countries had previously said they would give up pipeline supplies of Russian oil by the end of the year.
According to Tokarev, Warsaw expects to receive 360,000 tons of Russian crude this December and 3 million tons more in 2023. He added that Berlin has also placed an order for the first quarter of next year, but did not specify the volume requested.
In November, reports emerged that Poland intended to push for EU sanctions against the northern string of the Druzhba pipeline, through which both Poland and Germany receive Russian oil, to obtain the legal grounds for unilaterally terminating existing contracts with Moscow without penalties. Poland’s largest oil refiner, Orlen, has a contract with Transneft for 200,000 tons of oil per month, which expires in December 2024. Earlier this year, Berlin also said it would stop purchasing oil via Druzhba on December 31.
“They announced that they would not take oil from Russia as of January 1. However, we have already received requests to pump it through the Druzhba pipeline from Poland and Germany next year,” Tokarev stated.

Posted by: Oblomovka daydream | Dec 20 2022 12:01 utc | 244

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 20 2022 11:59 utc | 242
You were simply a condescending and ignorant fool the sneering and contemptuous manner in which you wrote about people in NORTHERN UK as if you were some elevated personage urinating on peasants.
You may not have mentioned Birmingham but you failed to comprehend – failed to understand – failed to note – that ONLY London and Birmingham are large cities in SOUTHERN UK and the REST are in NORTHERN UK so far from being “provinicial towns” Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield, Bradford, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Liverpool are MAJOR cities

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Dec 20 2022 12:10 utc | 245

Ukr seems to have received a new batch of aircraft from nato. Russia shot down yesterday, only over DPR, 2 Mig29, 1 Su25 and 2 Mi8. But the daily kills seem to remain at very low levels. 20 here, 50 there, nothing.
And funny news: azovs are in Israel begging for weapons and media loves them.
Even more funny news: zely was today in Bakhmut for a photoshoot.

Posted by: rk | Dec 20 2022 12:13 utc | 246

oh and before we forget…….. I clearly say “pound or dollar” which readers here would understand means I cater for the British , Europeans and Americans etc
So do excuse “Europeans” for eschewing Dollars in favour of Krona, Zloty, Lev, Koruna, Krone, Forint, Leu, Franc, Lira, Euro
You really should be less bombastic and more accurate in your assertions

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Dec 20 2022 12:16 utc | 247

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Dec 20 2022 12:10 utc | 245
Take it easy Paul. It was I who originally mentioned ‘provincial northern towns’, and I was being specific. Attitudes in the large northern cities (e.g. Leeds, Manchester, Sheffield) are different to those in the smaller towns (e.g. Rotherham, Doncaster, Castleford).
A lot of the reason for that is the presence of the universities in the cities.

Posted by: Gt Stroller | Dec 20 2022 12:19 utc | 248

Posted by: rk | Dec 20 2022 12:13 utc | 246
Daily kills low – maybe the attacks have been correspondingly smaller, too. Just a couple of months ago 300-400 was a norm and attacks were larger, too.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 20 2022 12:20 utc | 249

Posted by: Altai | Dec 20 2022 12:00 utc | 243
Not going to happen. Scott Ritter and I agree: If Russia stops at the Dnieper, it has lost the war.
As I’ve indicated before, Ukraine of 2022 is not Ukraine of 1949. Neither is Russia. Russia has learned from Chechnya, Afghanistan and Syria. It will handle any disruptions caused by western Ukrainians by deporting anyone who has the resources of influence to cause same. There will be thousands of SVR/FSB/GRU combing Ukraine for precisely those people. Once the Ukrainian government is replaced – wither by a new government or by the Russian government itself – and a new Constitution is in place, and a new security service is formed (or the existing SVR/FSB increased to handle the new territory), the CIA won’t have much to work with, especially once the economy gets better under Russian control. Plus, as Ritter says, the CIA sucks at running insurgencies – the one in the 1940’s failed. The Soviets lost 20,000, the Ukrainians 200,000. Did the Soviet Union care? Will Russia? I think not, as long as Ukraine remains under firm control like Belarus.
Unless of course Putin and his team are morons and allow any of what you say to occur. Do you imagine the Russians haven’t already anticipated everything you’ve suggested? We will see what occurs.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 20 2022 12:21 utc | 250

Posted by: Oblomovka daydream | Dec 20 2022 12:01 utc | 244
Poland and Germany still ordering Russian oil for next year even though publicly telling all and sundry they would stop purchases by 2023?
Ah! The hypocrisy and stench of those EU elites. Did you hear how that boring old fart Borrell was caught with secret payments going to offshore accounts in the Seychelles? Dirty money-grubbing EU elitist with no care for his own. Yet, he looks after Israel well ; as his children are Jewish. Pray tell , Who will look after Europe’s children?
Too many still refer to the operation as an SMO. That is incorrect, Russia moved onto a CTO after the Kerch Bridge sabotage. Putin is very legalistic and is evidently doing things by the book for both his own and Russia’s image , and he definitely said it is now a Counter- Terrorism Operation NOT a Special Military Operation any longer. I leave whether I agree with Putin’s methods or his labelling of the operation for another day.
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Dec 20 2022 10:20 utc | 228
Even the French had The Malvinas before the French and no …Britain has no special right to them at all. They are Argentina’s ; as the successors of the Spanish , and if the latter ever regrow their cojones they may ask for Gibraltar back to boot.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 20 2022 12:30 utc | 251

Posted by: FrankDrakman | Dec 20 2022 5:42 utc | 207 “Canada’s got huge reserves with no access to int’l markets”
Do the Canadian’s know this? They think they export oil to the US and in addition to China and Europe. Yes, the US, being next door gets the most. Interestingly, Canada some of those exports go via via pipeline to the US gulf coast and then by tanker. But they also go out by Vancouver and some oil terminals on the Atlantic Ocean.

Posted by: Bill Smith | Dec 20 2022 12:33 utc | 252

Oblomovka daydream | Dec 20 2022 12:01 utc | 244
Druzhba. Paid for in Rubles as per directives, I expect?
****
Belarus;
Now that Belarus is being drawn into the Russian defensive envelope, it becomes a forward station for Russian arms.
SO, if Poland (foolishly) decides to “join” the war in Ukraine, then a Russian advance along the coast from Belarus/Kalingrad could be used to cut off Gdansk etc. Isolating the three bad baltic sister states, – After which which Poland becomes a landlocked country. Just saying….
In other words the “NATO” forces and principal cities become closer to Russian advanced forces (troops, drones or missiles). Which is a reverse of the present situation where Russia is the only one threatened by extending the war.
****

Posted by: Stonebird | Dec 20 2022 12:39 utc | 253

Jeez Paul Greenwood, outta bed on the wrong side this a.m.? Your comments are usually measured and welcome intervention. Poor brother ma didn’t transgress that much to deserve such a ton of bricks, surely?

Posted by: petra | Dec 20 2022 12:48 utc | 254

Posted by: FrankDrakman | Dec 20 2022 5:42 utc | 207
The increase in money supply could just be a red herring. Inflation could easily have been caused by the covid – restrictions in China , and AmericanEmpire self – sanctions over the Ukraine; demand for all those products not dropping as quickly as supply did ,so …inflation.
Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 20 2022 6:43 utc | 216
LSD-like spinach in Australia? Imported from the US? Unless I am mistaken , It was from Costco stores in Aus ! I am still laughing.
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Dec 20 2022 12:10 utc | 245
Pompous fool. You Jumped to conclusions like the insecure smart – arse you are , and you appear to have autistic tendencies . I included myself in the “deplorables “ you idiot , or can’t you read English?
How about we keep away from one another, hey? You got a question for me ? Phrase it in a general way in a post and I will do the same.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 20 2022 12:51 utc | 255

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Dec 20 2022 11:18 utc | 237
Pravoslavie Christmas is according to the Julian calendar. This is a purely religious event. New Year is the equivalent to Western Christmas when presents are given and people celebrate.

Posted by: Peter Williams | Dec 20 2022 12:58 utc | 256

@Altai | Dec 20 2022 12:00 utc | 243
There is no simple answer to any of those questions but solutions can appear.
Ukr is already sort of a new Syria and even Russia itself was turned into Syria. They have lost control over the old border, ask Belgorod, and no one cares about the new borders, ask Donetsk or ZNPP. They get daily strikes inside Russia and, like Syria, there’s nothing they can do about it.
I’m waiting to see what they do about the oil and gas price cap.

Posted by: rk | Dec 20 2022 13:02 utc | 257

Posted by: petra | Dec 20 2022 12:48 utc | 254
Posted by: Gt Stroller | Dec 20 2022 12:19 utc | 248
Posted by: Peter Williams | Dec 20 2022 12:58 utc | 256
Orthodox Christmas?
Tipping my hat.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 20 2022 13:05 utc | 258

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 20 2022 12:51 utc | 255
LSD-like spinach in Australia? Imported from the US? Unless I am mistaken , It was from Costco stores in Aus ! I am still laughing.
You are mistaken. It was Australian grown spinach and sold in multiple retailers. https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/from-hallucanogenic-spinach-to-contaminated-salad-heres-why-theres-alarm-over-leafy-greens/33klcbcl7

Posted by: Peter Williams | Dec 20 2022 13:06 utc | 259

Posted by: Peter Williams | Dec 20 2022 13:06 utc | 259
My Apologies, I heard Costco only in the report , but others also involved as you say.
Below ,From your link.
“Coles has joined Woolworths, ALDI and Costco in pulling products off its shelves.”

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 20 2022 13:11 utc | 260

Translated from Russian FYI. As at Dec202022 AFU losses attributed by RF MOD ((+?) vs yesterday Dec19):

A total of 347 aircraft have been destroyed since the start of the special military operation:
– 347(+3) aircraft,
– 186(+2) helicopters,
– 2,689(+5) unmanned aerial vehicles,
– 398 anti-aircraft missile systems,
– 7168(+9) tanks and other armored combat vehicles,
– 931 multiple rocket launcher combat vehicles,
– 3,693(+2) field artillery guns and mortars,
– 7,674(+10) units of special military motor vehicles.

@ Richard Steven Hack | Dec 20 2022 11:26 utc | 238
Quoting TLA Wikipedia re a false definition of ‘Combat Arms’ ? “However, it may be wrong?
Really ? You actually have a doubt ? Needed to refer to a Dog-Damned FM ?

… guess one is “support” if one isn’t actively shooting directly at the enemy. That’s why artillery is called “fire support”.

No, one is not & it is not! Not even in the ball park. Perhaps learn something of substance, instead of uninformed speculation, by bothering to look up another FM, regarding what “Fire Support” actually IS & encompasses ?
Enjoyed the banal, fatuous lecture/thread spam & demonstrated gratuitous ignorance, not. Shan’t invite such again.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 20 2022 13:14 utc | 261

and if the latter ever regrow their cojones they may ask for Gibraltar back to boot.
Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 20 2022 12:30 utc | 251

Well, if you believe in the right of the people of the Donbas to self determination, I think Gibraltans deserve the same, no?
Gibraltar sovereignty referendum, 1967
Choice Votes %
British sovereignty 12,138 99.64
Spanish sovereignty 44 0.36
Have a cool Yule.

Posted by: Gt Stroller | Dec 20 2022 13:14 utc | 262

Next time you write to me be a little less presumptive and patronising.
Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 20 2022 11:59 utc | 242
Asking a Brit to be less patronizing is like asking my dog not to dig feminine pads out of the bathroom trash. Na gonna happen.

Posted by: Milton | Dec 20 2022 13:21 utc | 263

This would be funny if it were not serious.
https://www.newsweek.com/nato-could-take-out-russia-3-days-congressman-1768191
Yes, he is just a congressman and a lame duck congressman. Americans believe this.
If NATO took off the gloves Russia would be gone in three days. That’s presumably without using nukes.

Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 20 2022 13:29 utc | 264

Clearly Musk received a quiet visit or call …

Ukraine to get more than 10,000 more Starlink in the near future – Bloomberg
The new batch of Starlink will be used to stabilize connections in critical situations.
SpaceX and Musk are quick to respond to problems and help us. Musk has assured us that he will continue to support Ukraine. When we had a massive outage, I texted him that day and he responded instantly and has already taken several steps. He understands the situation,” said Digital Information Minister Mikhail Fedorov, adding that he has communicated with Musk directly.

@ Gt Stroller | Dec 20 2022 13:14 utc | 262
And the % of hereditary Spanish citizens resident in Gibraltar as opposed to transplanted British citizens & offspring of the occupying military power ? Just curious. Gibraltar is yet another example of Imperialist unequal treaties, perhaps ?
Regardless, Britannia is on borrowed time, Gibraltar will go the same way as the Falklands, Diego Garcia, etc, will not have the capacity to maintain the facade re capability of retention when eventually directly challenged. Brexit meant zero succor forthcoming from the EU re Spains relentless ongoing demands from within the EU.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 20 2022 13:32 utc | 265

Gt Stroller | Dec 20 2022 13:14 utc | 262
On the other hand; there is the small matter of the referendum of 2016
The referendum result was declared early on Friday 24 June 2016 – it was the first of the 382 voting areas to declare.
Gibraltar saw the biggest ‘remain’ vote of all the voting areas – only 4% of voters in Gibraltar opted to leave, and there was a very high turnout of 84%.

Posted by: Lapin | Dec 20 2022 13:33 utc | 266

Latest from the guardian:
‘We were allowed to be slaughtered’: calls by Russian forces intercepted
Calls between Russian soldiers and their loved ones – eavesdropped by Ukraine – reveal reality of war for Kremlin’s forces’
(Audio of supposed call)

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Dec 20 2022 13:45 utc | 267

@ oldhippie | Dec 20 2022 13:29 utc | 264
If NATO took off the gloves, the RF flag would likely be flying over NATO HQ in less than three months. All restraint gone, all bets off, RF goes for the jugular.
Yeah, the Bundeswehrs Puma IFVs, all 18 out of 18, 100%, were inoperable by the end of the recent training/readiness exercise pre-deployment to NATOs Very High Readiness Joint Task Force (VJTF) next month. They’ve got 338 more of them gathering dust somewhere. Have had to pull 1970’s Marders out of reserve to fulfill the NATO commitment. So much for the vaunted 10th Panzer Division.
Er, IF NATO took off the gloves ? 😉

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 20 2022 13:47 utc | 268

Posted by: Gt Stroller | Dec 20 2022 13:14 utc | 262
1967! Comeon! Anyway, geopolitics is fraught with many contradictions and marriages of convenience. 🙂
Hey ! Donbas was never “Ukraine” till added later. It was Russian , before Tatar/ Turkish and then Russian again. I am sticking to just the centuries after about 800AD. If we go back it was Greco/Scythian and then Byzantine , then Khazarian, then Russian. Gibraltar was never Britain ,first . 🙂
You too. A Merry Christmas to you.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 20 2022 13:48 utc | 269

Gibraltar is yet another example of Imperialist unequal treaties, perhaps ?
Posted by: Outraged | 20 2022 13:32 utc | 265

I seem to remember Spain was a pretty formidable Imperialist power in its own right ?
only 4% of voters in Gibraltar opted to leave [the EU], and there was a very high turnout of 84%.
Posted by: Lapin | Dec 20 2022 13:33 utc | 266

True, but it was a nationwide majority decision on a nationwide issue, not a majority of regional decisions based on regionally counted votes.

Posted by: Gt Stroller | Dec 20 2022 14:19 utc | 270

Zany_one needs to learn how to read a Daily Wail article
“Armageddon blaze” “10,700 square feet”
An area around 30 metres by 30 metres then. Lol.

Posted by: Gt Stroller | Dec 20 2022 14:35 utc | 271

Russia knows it does not have a viable military to engage with NATO head-on. But NATO does not have consensus among its membership–nor does its puppet master, the USA, have the support of its People–for direct war with Russia. 25% of NATO simply doesn’t “hate” Russia, and most Americans are completely apathetic. So…Ukraine is the proxy war(game) / cockfight for which both sides of Elites foam at the mouth. How sad for “Ukrainians”, but this is what you get when you’re an arbitrarily established snow-globe of a country with no tribal legitimacy. And we all know that tribalism is the #1 most fundamental aspect of every European’s identity…or, well, it was until these last couple Self-Hating Nihilist generations successfully carved up several Eurostates into “wind farms” and Sharia Law Zones. Anyway, the entire region in 1991 should have been absorbed back into pre-Bolshevik demarcations, but much of the blame for not doing so rests on the 1991 Kremlin’s stupid, incompetent shoulders, not NATO’s. I only care because my tax dollars are paying to fund BOTH sides of this idiotic conflict between culturally and genetically indistinguishable, potato-faced people I otherwise wouldn’t give two dumps for. I will not be content until the USA finally evacuates Idiotic Petty Pagan Tribal Nihilist Europe once and for all!

Posted by: Tom SteChatte | Dec 20 2022 14:46 utc | 272

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 20 2022 13:32 utc | 265
Malvinas will be freed first, Gibraltar will be the last one as long as we have the anglo saxon boot licking governments and bought media that we have in Spain.
Argentina will be BRICS+ pretty soon, and this time around there is no Pinochet to betray the Argentinian brothers or the US to help their cousins in crime. Slow train coming, but the anglo saxons have a big dirty portion of karma coming back to visit, too many crimes, for too long and as Lennon would sing, the love you get is equal to the love… you make.

Posted by: Paco | Dec 20 2022 15:06 utc | 273

…the Bundeswehrs Puma IFVs, all 18 out of 18, 100%, were inoperable by the end of the recent training/readiness exercise…
Posted by: Outraged | Dec 20 2022 13:47 utc | 269

That is one small step for Germany… 🙂

Posted by: Nobody | Dec 20 2022 15:18 utc | 274

Rishi Sunak orders “Goldman-Sachs style” to conduct an audit into the use of UK funding of the Ukraine war:

Rishi Sunak ‘orders Goldman Sachs-style audit of how UK supplies are used in Ukraine war’ amid fears he will be overly-cautious during crucial phase of fight against Putin’s Russia
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has reportedly ordered an audit into the Ukraine war
It will review the costs and benefits of Britain arming Ukraine in the invasion 
The UK has been one of the biggest military suppliers to the country this year 

One wonders if it will not only be a “Golman-Sachs Style” audit by in fact an audit conducted by G&S ?
Wouldn’t that be hilarious?
A kosher audit company auditing the kosher leadership of a country run by kosherites during a war started by yet more kosherites.
It’s Khazars all the way down …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 20 2022 15:20 utc | 275

Objective, frank/realist re purely military operational matters re Ukraine when taken in isolation, yet IMO, suggest always taking into account MacGregor is a die-hard Republican Conservative & true believer in US hegemony & exceptional nation status, Monroe Doctrine, re coloring of analysis. A committed political enemy of the current faux incumbents(Alternate puppet faction, of the one party faux State), the Dems. Delusionally believes Russia should be an ally re the ‘true’ mission … confronting & breaking up China …
Amazing how utterly wrong this is. I’ll throw a bone in that MacGregor does believe in the exceptional nature of American freedom and the bill of rights. American hegemony? He’s completely opposed. Confronting China? Are you serious? He wants trade with China? Breaking up China? He tacitly supports Taiwan unifying with China.
He does believe that Russia is a natural ally, especially as it is Christian as opposed to China and India. However the Colonel is very much opposed to the US bullying countries and trying to impose our ways on foreign nations.

Posted by: JackG | Dec 20 2022 15:24 utc | 276

Posted by: Zanonsense | Dec 20 2022 14:09 utc | 271
BREAKING: Explosion Reported at Russian Pipeline Bringing Gas to Europe
“>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-20/explosion-reported-at-russian-pipeline-bringing-gas-to-europe?leadSource=uverify%20wall

And the result? Loss of gas to Europe?
More of this, I say!

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 20 2022 15:29 utc | 277

In reply to
FrankDrakman | Dec 20 2022 5:42 utc | 207
[.]
The issues we have at present are due to damage to production capacity because of lockdown, wars, and a general trend towards a generation that doesn’t appear to believe working hard is necessary. It’s not an increase in demand that is the problem. It’s a reduction in supply.[.]
Posted by: The Accountant | Dec 20 2022 9:01 utc | 225
Exactly, double diving down on stupid. NB: the pandemic lockdown -during 2020-2021 locking down essential companies expecting a flip of light switch restart. How many never re-opened?
And along came increased sanctions on Russia due to the West’s provoked SMO.
Never heard of Russia? -that pretense of a country “that’s only a gas station” !!! – no finished nickel,(think batteries, stainless steel) diesel, finished lumber exported to the collective West, neon gas (54% of the world’s semiconductor-grade neon), wheat, fertilizer, palladium, titanium used in surgical instruments, implanted orthopaedic devices and medical equipment, add pharmaceutical ingredients.
Shipping made more expensive; that country that’s only a gas station closed its airspace to 36 countries – means that goods flown by air freight from Western China to Europe must reroute or rely on other slower or more costly modes of transportation.
Really, as JP observed, ‘I did not know Russia occupies more than 1/8th of earth – 17,125,192Km2? Fancy that and some dumbasses want to weaken, to capture Russia through an unwinnable proxy war.’ Will Hunter, Bojo, Rishi, Justin, Eurocrats et al, consider going to the front-line meat grinder?

Posted by: Likklemore | Dec 20 2022 15:32 utc | 278

Posted by: oldhippie | Dec 20 2022 13:29 utc | 264
If NATO took off the gloves Russia would be gone in three days. That’s presumably without using nukes.
That’s faster than Iraq (the entire coalition of the willing).
Faster than Russia took Georgia.
Faster than NATO took Yugoslavia or Libya.
So … Russia is more puny than Libya?
The level of western delusion is through the roof.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 20 2022 15:32 utc | 279

>> The two generals on their part say they fully trust each other and wish to stay out of politics. General Syrsky is uncomfortable with the conversation. “The army is outside of politics,” he says. “It is how it should be, and how the law demands it to be.” >>
Neither Zaluzhny nor Syrsky are men for a coup. If Zelenski is to go, some other politician, probably a more radical one, is likely to take the lead.

Not so fast! Senior Ukrainian soldier not interested in politics??? Pull another one!!
If the US-UK want Syrsky to do a coup to replace Zelenski they want him to look good for their western audience, i.e. a dedicated and professional and fanatically patriotic. That is why Syrsky was told to utter those words. They (US-UK especially UK) don’t want Joe Public thinking the coup was done by a typical Ukrainian elite, i.e. fanatically dedicated to his own material and especially financial advancement, especially as Syrsky is jealous of Zaluzhny for the top army job. The entire interview is staged for that purpose in my opinion. Syrsky is selected as the UK’s man for the coup job, and Zaluzhny has probably agreed (probably paid off by the UK to stand aside, though not certain though on this detail).

Posted by: BM | Dec 20 2022 15:39 utc | 280

@ Paco | Dec 20 2022 15:06 utc | 275
Even now, there’s the still exiled Chagossians (Diego Garcia). Perfidious Albion is way, way over due for serious ‘Blowback’. Expect we’ll fight tooth & nail to the last re the Monroe Doctrine & dominance of Latin America though. Will likely be brutal …

Europe’s energy bill hits $1 trillion, marks just the beginning of crisis:
A new report estimates that the skyrocketing energy prices have cost Europe nearly $1 trillion, referring to the current situation as just the start of the deepest crisis in decades.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 20 2022 15:39 utc | 281

PUTIN: (vid)
“The situation in the DPR, LPR, as well as in the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions remains extremely difficult, Vladimir Putin said… “It is necessary to severely suppress the actions of foreign special services, quickly identify traitors, spies and saboteurs”
https://twitter.com/vicktop555/status/1605094212793417728

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 20 2022 8:15 utc | 222
This does not look good. The foreign special services, especially British ones, may well be causing some damage. The reference to traitors, spies and saboteurs, however, strongly suggests that things are not going Putins way lately, and he has no clues as to what the reasons are. I can’t check out the video, though, my Russian is nonexistent.

Posted by: grunzt | Dec 20 2022 15:41 utc | 282

Russia better protect it’s energy systems, looks like Ukraine is copying its tactics. Electrical substations and fuel depots and now an attack on a ng pipeline

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 20 2022 15:44 utc | 283

US troops in Romania, just south of Ukraine

MIHAIL KOGALNICEANU, Romania — The 101st Airborne Division soldiers here are positioned close enough to Ukraine that their artillery is in easy range of the war-torn country and intelligence gatherers can monitor fighters buzzing around the Black Sea.
The 2nd Brigade Combat Team, deployed on the division’s first operational mission in Europe since World War II, functions as the most forward-based American unit in proximity to the fighting in Ukraine, military leaders say.
There are now about 5,000 soldiers along NATO’s southeastern flank, the majority of whom are anchored at strategic locations near Romania’s coastline.
. . .The 101st, like U.S. units positioned in Poland and the Baltics and at the Army’s major training hub in Grafenwoehr, Germany, is trying to apply tactical lessons learned from Ukraine as fast as it can, McGee said.
“I think some of the critical lessons that we’ve learned are in things like how we employ our artillery,” he said. “What we’ve learned is if we employ artillery, especially our towed artillery, in the manner by which we’ve been training, it wouldn’t survive very well in this sort of fight.”
Replicating some of the successful Ukrainian tactics in dispersing forces has been a priority, he said.
Matthaidess, the brigade commander, said his unit has placed an emphasis on how care of injured troops would play out on a European battlefield.
Unlike in Afghanistan and Iraq, where it was generally possible for a chopper to swoop in for a speedy evacuation, such operations could be severely restricted, given an adversary like Russia’s ability to carry out missile and air defense strikes. . . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 20 2022 15:50 utc | 284

Posted by: Clever Dog | Dec 19 2022 23:46 utc | 125
In this model, the US recognizes that Russia, China, and Europe are each powerful enough to contest that hegemony.
US foreign policy establishment sees all this as an existential contest for the survival of neoliberal capitalism, and will go to the brink (hopefully not over) to defend its imperial position. <=western foreign policy establishments serve the intl private monopoly powered global corporate market dominate giants; when you buy their stock your subscribe to their power. Posted by: Roger | Dec 20 2022 3:04 utc | 179 The US(and Briton) ha[ve] also managed to tightly bind Russia, China and Iran <- a mistake for whom? Dividing WESTERN CORPORATE privately owned MONOPOLY POWER may encourage local nationalism and induce bottom up governance, at the expense of globalism and top down tyranny of the type Google, Microsoft, Apple and the oil industry uses to strangle individual liberties and to deny alternative competition. Psychohistorian | Dec 20 2022 3:22 utc | 184 calls "It the money mafia of global private finance that rule the roost .....and own the "WarDefense Industry" ..." Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 20 2022 4:05 utc | 193 Trump is controlled opposition. So is Ron DeSantis. Don't vote for either R or D in the United States. Both options are pointless. <=AGREE.. political parties are like religions.. their leaders are just as invisible as is our maker in each persons Religion.

Posted by: snake | Dec 20 2022 15:55 utc | 285

@ Down South | Dec 20 2022 5:50 utc | 208
The front line cracks again.

Russian troops wiped out Ukrainian manpower and military equipment in over 140 areas and more than 60 enemy artillery units at firing positions in the past day during the special military operation in Ukraine, Defense Ministry Spokesman Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov reported.
https://t.me/tassagency_en/6721

Posted by: ? | Dec 20 2022 15:58 utc | 286

Posted by: grunzt | Dec 20 2022 15:41 utc | 284
Yes, the message is for the Internal Security apparatus. He is talking about internal security being in a difficult state in the the eastern provinces of 404 State which are now Russia. He is suggesting that everything possible should be done to fight this situation, but lawfully and by not infringing on people’s freedoms.
Whatever the problem it must be something serious that their people have noticed needing Putin’s voice to address this. Not too hard to see the problem since separating out the wheat from the chaff of refugees can not be easy.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Dec 20 2022 16:00 utc | 287

@ Nobody | Dec 20 2022 15:18 utc | 276
That is one small step for Germany… 🙂
Followed by a giant leap for the mighty Bundeswehrs 105 tracked howitzers, Pz 2000, only ~18-38% are operational. 🙂
Posted in the Open Ukraine Thread.
Given they have less than 2 days small arms ammunition … & a shortage of operable MGs, what the hell do they have to show for Deutschlands ~€2Trillion on defense since ’91 ?
@ JackG | Dec 20 2022 15:24 utc | 278
He has ranted about the greater threat of Latino’s overrunning/invading the US through our porous southern border. Retain the Monroe Doctrine, which is still hegemony ? He has openly stated we should have Russia as an ally in the coming ‘confrontation’ with China. A critical geostrategic failure …
When he’s permitted to go off script, he’s way out there, IMV. My recounting of his commentary is delusional ?

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 20 2022 16:04 utc | 288

@ james 170.
We are in the financial collapse.. … the 2007-2009 GFC was never fixed. Mouse-click in the trillions of fiat papered over the crisis.
Nouriel Roubini one of the few who sounded the alarm on the 2007/9 bubble pop now tells FT:
‘World is on a slow-motion train wreck’ – Nouriel Roubini
LINK RT

The famed economist warns mankind is headed into a crisis of global proportions;
“No, this is not going to be a short and shallow recession, it’s going to be deep and protracted.”
The economist believes the situation in Europe “is much worse,” with the UK “already in a stagflation,” and prospects of negative economic growth ahead.
Roubini added that due to both public and private global debt being at the current level, at 350% of global GDP in 2019 from 220% in 1999, central banks around the world are unlikely to hike rates far enough to battle the economic crisis.
The only thing that could help cope with all the global threats, according to Roubini, is technological advances, like breakthroughs in nuclear fusion.
“It will take 15 to 20 years. But in 15 and 20 years we will already be doomed,” the economist concluded.

+ + + + + +
@ aristodemos 173
Thanks for expanding the commentary. Please understand, what I wrote is a “Criminal referral” and not Criminal justice. Criminal referrals may or may not lead to charges and trial by DOJ’s prosecutor.
cheers.

Posted by: Likklemore | Dec 20 2022 16:05 utc | 289

“..[the Econimist’s] new narrative to the ‘golden billion’ (who will all read and absorb it).”
A sense of scale is as important in matters of public opinion as in military matters. The proportion of the western world which reads the “serious” press is between 1 and 5%. Those influenced by the Economist or official propaganda in general are numbered in the low millions. Those influenced by serious alternative discussions probably in the low hundred thousands. We’re outnumbered, but not as hopelessly as it might appear.

Posted by: geoff chambers | Dec 20 2022 16:05 utc | 290

Roger | Dec 20 2022 3:04 utc | 179
Chomsky was right, the intellectuals are the most propagandized of them all.
…including Chomsky himself. Only months ago he said the unvaxxed should be isolated for the good of society, banished and left to fend for themselves. This from a purported champion of civil-human rights and liberty. Forgive him for his senility.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Dec 20 2022 16:07 utc | 291

When’s Christmas ? 6/7 January
When’s New Year’s ? 14 January
When’s the Feast of Baptism ? 19.January
🙂

Posted by: Exile | Dec 20 2022 16:16 utc | 292

@ abrogard [104]
I grew up in the USA and always talk with people who are well educated and some who are not well-educated. I don’t believe any native English speaker would ever confuse lose and loose when speaking. Now, if this was only a typo, then we would see other typos in their comments, but we don’t see that. So this lose/loose shows English is not their native tongue. Still, hats off to them and this little error. I can only wish some of my languages were as fluent.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Dec 20 2022 16:16 utc | 293

@ abrogard [104]
I grew up in the USA and always talk with people who are well educated and some who are not well-educated. I don’t believe any native English speaker would ever confuse lose and loose when speaking. Now, if this was only a typo, then we would see other typos in their comments, but we don’t see that. So this lose/loose shows English is not their native tongue. Still, hats off to them and this little error. I can only wish some of my languages were as fluent.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Dec 20 2022 16:16 utc | 294

@ Posted by: Laurence | Dec 20 2022 3:30 utc | 185
Not sure what the relevance of this Wikipedia extract is to this thread. For Ukraine, if Poilievre becomes PM, his foreign policy will become whatever the US tells him it is.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 20 2022 16:31 utc | 295

geoff chambers | Dec 20 2022 16:05 utc | 292
You make a good point, but the reality is that the current situation is an historical anomaly: there is no majority opposition current in the west comparable to the mass socialism of the early C20th or the enormous sympathy for communism in Europe in the post war years in which the opinions of the ruling class were consciously rejected by the largest political parties in France and Italy and a current so dangerous that it was banned in Iberia and western Germany.
Nowadays the opposition is not just small but hopelessly divided -Russia’s supporters on this blog are as likely to be fascists as socialists- unrepresented by political parties, the last “left’ social democratic parties having been smashed and reshaped from Greece to Germany, Spain to the UK, and unsupported by the Trade Union movements that are now thoroughly corrupted by Business Unionism.
Obviously this situation cannot last. The vacuum to the left of the ruling class will have to be filled but, just now, there is nothing but the confusion and chaos of a moment before history turns.
One of the problems that we face and which strengthens the ruling class is the way in which the environmental critique of neo-liberal capitalism has become part if the system itself. The Green movement was always contaminated by neo-Nazi ideas of Blood and Soil which preach accommodation with capitalism and is enthused by ideas of caste and hierarchy: witness the German Greens and the madness of the Greens in Canada.
The clear political alternative to Capitalism is Eco-socialism. But what is it?

Posted by: bevin | Dec 20 2022 16:35 utc | 296

@ Don Bacon | Dec 20 2022 15:50 utc | 286
So, to paraphrase, reading between the lines … a reinforced Light Infantry Brigade, a BCT, concerned about it’s 155mm lightweight towed arty survivability, & conducting effective medivac, under combat conditions, in actual high-intensity conflict against a true combined arms peer … a now hardened/stiffened, veteran status peer …
The BCT is … dispersed in multiple locations … along the coastline ? Without air dominance or effective/capable integrated or even layered AD ?
Where’s the 7th Cavalry (Preferably Armored) when ya need ’em ?
@ Likklemore | Dec 20 2022 16:05 utc | 291

It will take 15 to 20 years. But in 15 and 20 years we will already be doomed,” the economist concluded.

What a cheerful thought at this time of year. Could he not at least wait ’til after New Years ?

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 20 2022 16:35 utc | 297

NEVER in recorded human history has Argentina had any sovereign claim to the Falkland Islands either by treaty or by conquest………NEVER.
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Dec 20 2022 10:20 utc | 228

Correct! If the Argentinian government had half a brain, they would have simply paid off the few thousand Falkland Islanders in the mid 1980s and assisted them in relocating to an equally windswept desolate island off the coast of Scotland.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 20 2022 16:55 utc | 298

@ Oblomovka daydream | Dec 20 2022 12:01 utc | 244
thanks for that…
@ Likklemore | Dec 20 2022 16:05 utc | 291
thank you.. i agree with Nouriel Roubini’s overview and description of where we are here… i ponder the idea that the war is an excuse for what was going to happen anyway….

Posted by: james | Dec 20 2022 17:04 utc | 299

@Jams O’onnell 58
Probably insufficiently endowed to play duets.
Volodymyr Zelenskyy 2016 Playing Piano With Penis.

Posted by: Hermit | Dec 20 2022 17:25 utc | 300