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December 05, 2022

Ukraine - Crimea Bridge Repaired, No Ammunition, Drone Attacks In Russia

On October 8 a Ukrainian bomb destroyed the southern part of the car bridge to Crimea. The northern part was also slightly damaged, a passing train on the rail bridge next to it burned out. Some people in Kiev were quite happy about it:

Syricide @Syricide - 8:33 UTC · 10 Oct 2022 #Kiev yesterday.

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But the train traffic resumed a day later. The northern part of the car bridge was checked and car traffic in both directions was allowed. Repair preparations for the broken southern part immediately began.

Two days later the Russian military responded to the attack with the first intense strike against Ukraine's electricity infrastructure.

Now, less than two month later, the work is already done. Four damaged bridge spans have been replaced and a new tar cover has been laid on them. Today the Russia president drove a car over it:

Putin, accompanied by Deputy Prime Minister Marat Khusnullin, was shown on state television behind the wheel of a Mercedes, asking questions about where the attack took place.

"We are driving on the right hand side," Putin said, as he drove across the bridge. "The left side of the bridge, as I understand it, is in working condition, but nevertheless it needs to be completed. It still suffered a little, we need to bring it to an ideal state."

Putin also walked along parts of the bridge, Europe's largest, to inspect sections that are still visibly scorched.

Bidirectional traffic will now run on the southern span while the slightly damaged northern span will be repaired. This is likely to be finished before the end of the year.

Since the bridge attack the electricity infrastructure of Ukraine has received more missile attention. Today another attack followed. Kiev is again without electricity and water. It may well find that it will no longer be able to repair the damage.

One wonders what the people who posed in front of that bridge attack stamp poster think about that.

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Another bad news for Kiev is that the U.S. publicized that it has limited the range of the missile launchers it had given to Ukraine:

The U.S. secretly modified the advanced Himars rocket launchers it gave Ukraine so they can’t be used to fire long-range missiles into Russia, U.S. officials said, a precaution the Biden administration says is necessary to reduce the risk of a wider war with Moscow. The U.S. since June has supplied Ukrainian forces with 20 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System launchers, or Himars, and a large inventory of satellite-guided rockets with a range of almost 50 miles. U.S. officials say the Pentagon has modified the launchers so they can’t fire long-range missiles, including the U.S.’s Army Tactical Missile System rockets, or ATACMS, which have a range of nearly 200 miles.

That this was published is likely a hint to Ukraine that any attempt to acquire ATACMS from some U.S. allies who also have those systems will be useless. But what happens if they provide such missile and launchers that were not disabled to use them? Is the U.S. confident that its allies will make similar modifications?

The Ukrainian war machine is running on empty because the 'west' can no longer provide weapons and ammunition in meaningful quantities. The chance to change that in any reasonable time frame is low:

“High-end conflict consumes a lot of munitions and a lot of weaponry,” Mike McCord, the Pentagon’s top budget official, said in an interview. “We are also looking at the supply chain limitations. We haven’t got this figured out just yet.”

Top Pentagon and industry officials maintain that efforts are finally ramping up to replace the weapons that the United States and its allies have shipped to Ukraine — depleting stockpiles that are deemed crucial to deterring China or other potential adversaries for years to come.
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She cited recent deals for tens of thousands of 155mm artillery rounds that the Ukrainians are using up almost as soon as they arrive. By the spring, “we will be able to do 20,000 rounds a month,” she said.

But it will take time to manufacture enough of them, she said, adding that the U.S. will get that rate up to 40,000 rounds a month in the spring of 2025.

20,000 rounds is what the Russian army uses in Ukraine on a quiet day. 40,000 rounds per day may be the average consumption, 60,000 rounds per day are fired when things get hot. It also produces enough to replace those rounds.

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This morning an explosion took place at a Russian airfield in the Volga region. The Russian military now says that it was from the debris of an Ukrainian drone that its air defenses had shot down:

AZ @AZgeopolitics - 17:13 UTC · 5 Dec 2022

🇺🇦✈️🇷🇺The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation: On the morning of December 5, the Kiev regime attempted to strike with jet drones at the "Dyagilevo" and "Engels"airfields.

Ukrainian UAVs flying at low altitude in the Ryazan and Saratov regions were intercepted by air defense means

Three Russian soldiers who were at the airfield lost their lives as a result of an attack by the Kiev regime, four more were wounded and taken to hospitals.

Ukrainian UAVs fired at Russian airfields were intercepted by air defense means.

As a result of the fall and explosion of the wreckage of Ukrainian UAVs at Russian airfields, the hull plating of two aircraft was slightly damaged.

Video showed that the explosion in Saratov took place on the ground. Air defense usually explodes a drone while it is still flying. I therefore doubt that the Russian report of this is completely truthful.

One also wonders where Ukraine found jet powered, long range suicide drones. It strongly doubt that these were homemade or will become available in higher quantities.

Posted by b on December 5, 2022 at 17:51 UTC | Permalink

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@ Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 4:57 utc | 200

Maskirovka ?

All is fair in love & war ?

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 6 2022 5:06 utc | 201

Outraged | Dec 6 2022 4:53 utc | 198
Yep. Russia and China did their reciprocal aircraft visits.
{message. We’re *more* than “just good friends”}
And. Then. Russia waved at Japan ….
(Dec2):
>…”Temporary autonomous military camp and Bastion coastal missile system deployed on Matua, one of the Kuril Islands.” (Vid)
https://twitter.com/KomissarWhipla/status/1466284473163603973

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 5:07 utc | 202

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ #Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 5 Dec 2022⚡️

💥 The RF Armed Forces have again carried out massive strikes on critical infrastructure in #Ukraine. Enemy facilities in #Vinnitsa, #Cherkasy, #Khmelnytsky, #Poltava, #Kiev, #Sumy, #Kharkov, #Zaporozhye, #Dnipropetrovsk, #Nikolaev and #Odessa regions have been hit.

Ukrainian air defence systems failed to repel the attack. Some regions of the country experienced problems with electricity, water supply and communications.

During the raid, a missile presumably fired by the Ukrainian S-300 air defence system crashed near the Moldovan city of #Briceni.

♦️#Saratovo and #Ryazan Regions:

▪️ Ukrainian drones attacked two strategic airfields Russian Aerospace Forces in #Engels and #Ryazan, three members of the RF Armed Forces were killed, six wounded.

♦️#Kursk Region:

▪️ Enemy militants shelled the border villages of #Tetkino and #Guevo, damaging residential buildings and a gas pipeline. There are no fatalities or injured.

♦️#Starobelsk Direction:

▪️ In the #Kupyansk - #Svatovo sector, the AFU attacked Russian positions in the direction of Lyman 1st, but they could not achieve any visible success.

▪️ In the #Lyman sector, Ukrainian units launched an offensive towards #Chervonopopovka and #Ploshchanka. Russian forces repulsed the enemy's attacks and forced the militants to retreat to their initial lines with losses.

♦️#Soledar Direction (MAP):

▪️ In the #Lysychansk sector, units of the RF Armed Forces are fighting in the vicinity of #Belogorovka. Russian artillery and aviation are shelling enemy positions near the settlement.

▪️ In the #Soledar sector, Russian forces broke through the defensive lines of the AFU's 10th Mountain Assault Brigade and occupied two platoon strongholds in #Yakovlevka and three in #Belogorovka.

▪️ In the #Bakhmut area, Wagner PMC assault units broke through the AFU defences in #Opytnoye and in the southeast of #Bakhmut.

➖ At the same time, Russian units stormed the positions of Ukrainian formations on the approaches to #Kleshcheyevka.

▪️ In the #Toretsk (#Dzerzhinsk) sector, the RF Armed Forces are advancing on the #Shumy - #Novgorodskoye line.

➖ AFU assault units attempted to break through the Russian defences in the vicinity of #Pivnichnoye (#Kirovo). Russian units repulsed the attack. The enemy, having lost 20 men killed and wounded, withdrew.

♦️#Lugansk People's Republic:

▪️ Overnight, Ukrainian militants fired HIMARS rockets at civilian facilities in #Alchevsk. Residential buildings, educational buildings, dormitories and a library were damaged. Ten people were killed and 28 injured.

▪️ In the afternoon, the enemy militants used rocket artillery to hit #Vrubovka, injuring three civilians.

♦️#Donetsk Direction:

▪️ Russian motorised rifle units continue fighting with the AFU in the centre of #Maryinka.

▪️ Ukrainian terrorists shelled populated areas of the #Donetsk agglomeration with barrel and rocket artillery, including residential buildings and civilian facilities in #Donetsk. At least four civilians were killed.

♦️#Zaporozhye Direction:

▪️ The RF Armed Forces hit the workshop of the high-voltage equipment plant in #Zaporozhye, where high-voltage transformers are manufactured. The strike on the facility will make it difficult to restore the infrastructure damaged during the raid.

♦️#Kherson Direction on Southern Front:

▪️ Ukrainian militants shelled the town of #Tavriysk with mortars. Residential buildings, a school, a gas pipeline and a power line were damaged. Civilians were not injured.


https://t.me/sitreports/1716

Posted by: Down South | Dec 6 2022 5:22 utc | 203

🇬🇧🇺🇦💡Massive missile attack of the Russian Armed Forces on Ukraine: what is known by the end of the day

In the afternoon, Russian troops, supported by aviation, launched strikes against critical infrastructure in Ukraine. In some regions of the country, there were problems with electricity and water supply, as well as with communications.

🔻Kiev: a series of arrivals and explosions. Local residents reported on the work of air defense systems. Presumably, the Severnaya 330 substation was damaged.

🔻Kramatorsk: arrival at the infrastructure facility, the city is de-energized. Electricity went out in Slavyansk, Druzhkovka, Konstantinovka and Dobropolye.

🔻Odessa: explosions in the vicinity and the region, one of the two autotransformers of the Novoodesskaya 330 substation was damaged, as well as the Artsyz substation and Usatovo substation. In Odessa itself, pumping stations and backup lines did not function.

🔻Dnepropetrovsk: arrivals in the vicinity of the city, the pumping stations of one of the five water utilities are de-energized. Potentially, the Dneprovskaya 750 substation could have been hit.

🔻Zaporozhye: explosions in the city and region, including in the village of Novosofievka. The substation Dnepr-Donbass was damaged. Water supply was lost in several areas.

🔻Cherkasy: arrival in Cherkasy and Uman, emergency power outages are introduced in the region.

🔻Poltava: Explosions near Kremenchug.

🔻Sumy: A series of explosions in the area. Presumably, hits in the substation Sumy 330. There is no electricity supply in almost the entire region.

🔻Nikolaev: a series of explosions in the center and suburbs of the city.

🔻Krivoy Rog: an energy facility was hit, electricity was lost in some areas.

🔻Kharkiv region: explosions in Kharkov, as well as in Lozovsky and Volchansky districts.

🔻In the vicinity of the Moldavian city of Briceni, on the border with Ukraine, an upper stage of a rocket was found.

According to preliminary data, the projectile belongs to the Ukrainian S-300 air defense system.

🔻Also, explosions occurred at unidentified facilities in Ternopil, Vinnitsa, Cherkasy, Khmelnytsky and Kirovohrad regions.

Energy supply was completely or partially lost in Cherkasy, Lvov, Nikolaev, Sumy, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkiv and Odessa regions. Long-term power outages are planned across the country.

Today, the focus of strikes has been shifted to the Odessa region, which suffered more than other regions. Hits in central and eastern Ukraine have resulted in extensive blackouts, the extent of which has yet to be determined.

However, the nature of the strikes again suggests that autotransformers were the target. Most likely, critical damage to the substations is still not done.


https://t.me/sitreports/1711

Posted by: Down South | Dec 6 2022 5:23 utc | 204

Posted by: PavewayIV | Dec 6 2022 2:24 utc | 175

Well, first, I suspect Russia will wait until there's more than one or two drones involved. Second, that's going to be problematic because my guess is Russia will move in more air defense in the next 24-48 hours. So it won't matter how many there are unless it's the whole 140 or so that allegedly Ukraine possesses.

Third, someone asked why aren't there concrete shelters for the planes? Well, Russia didn't expect to need them any time soon. Or maybe they have them, but just weren't using them for convenience because, well, they're not at war with the US...yet. Maybe now they will use them, which will make drones mostly useless unless the shelters have open doors.

Bottom line: Yes, the Russians are PO'd at the US for pulling this stunt. But it's not like they don't expect this stuff from the US now, after NS1 and NS2. So they'll deal with it. As long as the US keeps using Ukraine as its alibi, Russia just can't hit out at the US directly without causing a fuss with their allies and the world in general. Or Russia will hit the US, but do it clandestinely, maybe in other arenas like Syria where the US is very vulnerable and Russia also has proxies they can use as an alibi.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 6 2022 5:33 utc | 205

@ Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 5:07 utc | 202

Indeed.

Japan would be getting very nervous re possible future events.

Especially since their Kwantung army & best imperial troops were annihilated in a matter of weeks when the Russkies erased them from Manchuria & China, then started seizing Japans northern Kuril Islands, preparatory re ALL of Japan ... which is the REAL reason Japan promptly surrendered, not two Atom bombs considered by Japans military cabinet to have done less damage than Le Mays B29 iron bombs/incendiaries mixed payloads & subsequent firestorms raids on other cities.

Participated in a number of Strategic CP TEWTs re defense of Japan against evil baby eating commie-pinko Russkies(alone) in late '80's. They never ended well for US/Japan either ...

Now with ascendant reborn RF post 2008 Military Reforms ... China's massive Mil capabilities added to the mix ... now in open Alliance ?

PS Russia & Japan have never signed a Peace Treaty, they are still de facto if not arguably De Jure, at War. ;)

Same goes for China (PRC), as opposed to only the rogue, formerly KMT Chinese(PRC) province of Taiwan ... no ?

The accepted 'Forms' Must be Obeyed ...

Reckon Japan is regretting their previous long term Imperial Fascist intransigence as the scales on Terra visibly shift ...

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 6 2022 5:44 utc | 206

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 6 2022 5:33 utc | 205

All plausible and logical, but still not good enough . Russia should always be on guard and consider itself at war with the US and others.

Now just thinking out loud: What is the use of concrete shelters if you don’t use them , and anyway as Syria proved, concrete shelters don’t stop the Tomahawks anyway. It is probably an outdated concept now. Then again , Russia may have thought that it would have ample warning of US hot-war intentions , and likely as you say could deal with such “deniable” attacks. I am not yet convinced it was drone or aerial assault even if the Russians say so. We have still not heard about how the Moskva was sunk ; not from the Russians, Natoists or even its surviving sailors. The details of these attacks will be kept secret for many a year.

This smacks of a commando raid to me, just like the SOE did to Nazi planes in Crete in WWII. It would explain the ground explosions, and targeting of more than one plane.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 6 2022 5:45 utc | 207

RT reports the barrage of lies coming from Germany's Chancellor:

Germany, Scholz writes, is “doing everything it can to defend and foster an international order based on the principles of the UN Charter.”

As part of this effort, “Germans are intent on becoming the guarantor of European security that our allies expect us to be, a bridge builder within the European Union,” he explains.

According to the chancellor, this is the only way Berlin can “successfully navigate the geopolitical rifts of our time.”

Scholz argues that Germany’s own history gives it a “special responsibility to fight the forces of fascism, authoritarianism, and imperialism.” At the same time, as a nation that was split in half for decades in the 20th century, Germany is well aware of the “risks of a new cold war.”

However, with what Scholz describes as an increasingly “revanchist” and “imperialistic” Russia as its neighbor, the EU now needs a fundamentally different approach toward defense.

For this reason, Germany’s own military strategy now centers on the “threats we and our allies must confront in Europe, most immediately from Russia,” the chancellor states.

“The goal is a Bundeswehr that we and our allies can rely on,” Scholz says. He also renewed his earlier pledge to invest “two percent of our gross domestic product in our defense.”

However, German media claimed on Sunday, citing a report by the Cologne-based German Economic Institute, that the 2% defense spending goal will remain unattainable until 2026. [My Emphasis]

It's not just the impossibility of wasting 2% of a rapidly shrinking GDP there's the lack of energy to power any such industrial effort. And then there's the issue of "defending" the UN Charter while actively breaking it daily. His words are akin to the standing water in Ukrainian trenches that he ought to be buried in.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 6 2022 5:51 utc | 208

No missing missile in these images.

So why is Maxar saying (literally)….”nothing to see here………”
Conjecture…Pentagon….. oh fuck. Did someone *really* fire a missile at Russia??????
(I agree with the suggestion there are multiple players in this game… some want to walk up and hit Russia with a baseball bat…. Some want to king hit and run, some want to key the car, and others are thinking to just keep shouting while walking backwards…
They are all USNATO, but don’t agree on strategy, tactics or outcomes …..
Some are pulling stoopid shit while others are trying to not start a nuclear war…

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But the security camera shows:
>…”Interesting video of explosion at Engels Airbase. At 15 sec, sound of something passing overhead. At 42 sec, light from explosion. 19 secs later - sound of blast, about 6.2 km away (speed of sound 326.34 m/s, dry air -8 C.)”
https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1599667237937623041
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>…” Filmed in Engels, Saratov oblast, Russia. Location of the courtyard 51.450490, 46.148117. @GeoConfirmed
https://twitter.com/EerikMatero/status/1599664144222892032

>…”It was 19.44 seconds if you put playback on 1/4 speed which gives 6.34 km which puts it on a crater seen in the new satellite image and agrees with the other security camera at 4.97 km (15.25 seconds). @RALee85 @KyleJGlen”
https://twitter.com/zawy3

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OT: But. Reckon some here will appreciate:>
“… harmonic mean < geometric mean < arithmetic mean < quadratic mean. Visual Proof:
https://twitter.com/AMRamosDelOlmo/status/1574440444464959495

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 5:57 utc | 209

Below is a recent Reuters posting title and quote


Drone attacks oil tank at airfield inside Russia

The quote


KYIV, Dec 6 (Reuters) - A drone attack on an airfield in Russia's Kursk region set fire to an oil storage tank, a governor said on Tuesday, a day after Russia accused Ukraine of audacious drone attacks on two military airfields deep inside Russian territory.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 6 2022 6:01 utc | 210

>…”Or Russia will hit the US, but do it clandestinely, maybe in other arenas like Syria where the US is very vulnerable and Russia also has proxies they can use as an alibi.”
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 6 2022 5:33 utc | 205
Or. Even better…
Let Turkey do it (strike at the US-Kurds. Eyes are on Ukraine…. Plenty *plenty* is happening in “Kurdistan”.
Iran Iraq Turkey and Russia all aligned on neutering the “Kurds” (US)

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 6:03 utc | 211

@ karlof1 | Dec 6 2022 5:51 utc | 208

WTF ?

What happened to the obligatory serial refrain of the supposed 'International-Rules-Based-Order' BS ?!

These puppets/drones have not referred to the UN Charter in any meaningful way for at least a decade ...

For this reason, Germany’s own military strategy now centers on the “threats we and our EU partners must confront in Europe, most immediately from the USA/5(+3_Eyes) axis,” the chancellor states. Fixed it for him.

Delusional. Bundeswehr has barely 2 days small arms ammo ... GTFOOH.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 6 2022 6:04 utc | 212

Outraged, why do you consider UK ammo stocks being better than Germany ? Anyway the BW has bigger problems than ammo. It lacks manpower and operable equipment. BW is simply HiWis for US and nothing more.

8 Dec Germany will test its emergency alarm systems nationwide and most will be non-functional

Germany set aside the Draft it did not abolish it but it dare not reactivate it as it cannot clothe, pay, or equip a cohort and has a bigger Muslim import army on German soil that German cohort for the military

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Dec 6 2022 6:12 utc | 213

@ Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 6:03 utc | 211

Plenty *plenty* is happening in “Kurdistan”.
Iran Iraq Turkey and Russia all aligned on neutering the “Kurds” (US)

Oh indeed.

And the US is not a monolithic entity, very far from it. Pentagon/DIA likely aghast at this act.

These serial misc terror attacks are the hallmark of CIA/MI6, which are fellow-travelers of the neocons, & directly report to the same masters, the Vampyres.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 6 2022 6:12 utc | 214

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 5:07 utc | 202

Great vid - feed. All the Russian vehicles ,ships, uniforms, flags and camp spic and span, with beautiful white -painted rock -borders .

volcanic black -sand beaches, desolate steppe -like vegetation and almost perfectly- conical snowcapped mountains. I’d love to visit one day and all I need is some alcohol, a fishing -rod, machete, rifle ,some books , camera, journal and a hot woman to warm my bones with. Ahh…Paradise.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 6 2022 4:53 utc | 198

Reciprocal Russian and Chinese bomber landings? This Counter Terrorism Operation has been a real eye -opener for me. Who could have thought of the nuances in escalation -dominance and “brinkmanship” before a Hot War. Maybe it is only a luxury or “dance -off “ for Big Powers ?

Posted by: Scorpion | Dec 6 2022 3:42 utc | 189

I always struggled to see why Financial Capitalists (in contrast to Industrial Capitalists) and the Neocons seem to be in league about pushing this Green Energy. I think I have the secret now. To my mind it is simply the consequence of full transition to monopoly power over the plebeians. Milk it with carbon contracts and exchanges till we are all stuck with Green energy and the deed is done. Wind only blows 25percent of the time in Germany and the UK for instance , and no battery - tech of today can store that for a later time. It is either used or lost ,or not producing at all. Consequence? Less produced at higher selling prices. A monopoly !

Another convenient consequence, widespread world - wide poverty (at least in the Nato-centric world) from lack of industry and jobs, and lack of agency for plebeians. You will own nothing , have less quantity ,quality and choice ,but be happy says the WEF, all the while Black Rock is buying up houses by the armful. So they get to own and we get to rent at monopoly prices if we are lucky. Gee, thanks.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 6 2022 6:19 utc | 215

If you read my comment at #210 reporting on another hit inside Russia you may think that there is even more reason for Russia to lash out.

I posit that it is doing so on the financial front and, if true that announcement of the new system of finance is 2 weeks or less away, the neutron bomb of a new "global" financial system will make all the rest of the munitions used look paltry by comparison.

I think that attacks we are seeing are ones of desperation to try and stave off the end of the God Of Mammon world. The announcement of an alternative to our private finance led world is also happening when the completion of Basel III is due, January 1, 2023, and the implementation of Basel IV starts....global banking "rules" like liquidity requirements, etc.

The myth of Western fiat money is about to go POOF! Capitulation by Ukraine, ending of NATO and world wide economic seize up are only some of the most visible outcomes in the near future. Will there be a conversion of US Dollars to the new money? How will that conversion be kept from being gamed?

I think events are and will continue to speed up until the shit show stops at some brink, our species takes an extra breath, and the social evolution caravan rolls on

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 6 2022 6:24 utc | 216

Outraged | Dec 6 2022 6:12 utc | 214
>…”These serial misc terror attacks are the hallmark of CIA/MI6, which are fellow-travelers of the neocons, & directly report to the same masters, the Vampyres”.
So.
*Not* a #coincidence that Cookies Nuland was in ?Kiev? and stayed overnight… right at the time this happened? She’s a USS Kersage!
*someone* had to be High Enough to give the GoGoGo … *someone* with authority outside, yet parallel, to Pentagon/ Joint Chiefs of Staff?
Ukraine+Poland+UK might have got the missile from Ukraine to the edge of the Polish border.
Getting a missile 600?kms inside Russia?
Someone really senior had to direct that.
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I noticed this thread started with a swarm of our paid ? Internet trolls….. here to gloat that Russia had taken a hit…. They’ve gone silent…. Seems they’ve been called off?

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Anyway. I have a dog agitating for a walk and a swim… can’t keep him waiting….

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 6:26 utc | 217

Gilbert Doctorow leaked some key info in his post, yesterday.

The first item comes from a 20-minute chat with a fellow who has been one of my best sources of information on the war thanks to his personal relations with siloviki, meaning in this case military intelligence officers, that go back to his college days and to his initial service as an administrator in the penitentiary system....

This area today is also home to an important military school which has students from Africa and other developing world regions enrolled alongside native Russians....And there is a military hospital of national importance. It is from the latter that today’s news comes.

My acquaintance tells me that the hospital is now filled with wounded Russian soldiers from the Ukraine campaign, and in particular with maimed POWs who were released by the Ukrainian authorities in prisoner exchanges. The hospitalized include a good many traumatized soldiers who were savagely castrated or otherwise disabled by their Ukrainian captors.

If publicized, these cases would be far more inflammatory in broad Russian society than the horrendous video which circulated in social media a week ago showing the brutal execution of a dozen disarmed Russian POWs by jubilant Ukrainian soldiers. Clearly, the Kremlin is holding this back, lest detailed knowledge of the Ukrainian brutality unleash violent emotions in the Russian public.

So the bastards actually followed through with the threatened castrations.

I look forward to the trials that will follow after Russia eradicates Ukraine and captures its "leadership." The most entertaining to see will be how the oligarchs cope--they likely think they will be able to flee the place and remain safe.

I am sure they are wrong.

Apologies if this is a repost.

Posted by: Pacifica_Advocate | Dec 6 2022 6:31 utc | 218

@ Paul Greenwood | Dec 6 2022 6:12 utc | 213

Outraged, why do you consider UK ammo stocks being better than Germany ?

Er, strawman ? Never stated such ... however, UK/US supplied iron bombs & ammo in Iraq '03, when Aussies RAAF exhausted war stocks in first 24/hrs, for cost+% ... these days given UK serial austerity ... do not know ... reasonably expect similar situ as France.

Anyway the BW has bigger problems than ammo. It lacks manpower and operable equipment. BW is simply HiWis for US and nothing more.

A critical lack of ammo, not just BW, is even worse throughout NATO, Denmark & Netherlands are a laughing stock, France is realizing it's critically short, lesser re US/UK, yet still totally inadequate across Empire for engaging in high-intensity conventional conflict for even a fortnight, as opposed to mandated 30 days.

Largest military in NATO other than US, Turkiye has all but deserted, no ?

All the Arms materiel in the world is useless expensive junk without, bullets, shells, rockets & bombs.

BW morale/commitment, actual training for WAR, derelict not properly maintained nor serviced major arms ... ?

Any insight re the status/loyalty of the 'Russian as a second language' sons of former GDR parents serving in the BW (~40%?) ? They tend to aggregate in the majority in particular units, do they not ?

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 6 2022 6:31 utc | 219

>>they are still de facto if not arguably De Jure, at War. ;)

Shouldn’t it be the other way around?

Posted by: PlatoAmINot | Dec 6 2022 6:54 utc | 220

@ Pacifica_Advocate | Dec 6 2022 6:31 utc | 218

Highly probable any female RF/DNR/LPR POWs that fell under the control, & tender mercies, of AFUs Military medical services were likely forcibly ... sterilized ... also.

Hence, if so, probable a separate ward/wing for the returned, exchanged female POWs too. 100% true NAZI scum. :(

See: Background & WSWS in-depth linked article here. (Dec 5 2022 1:34 utc | 157)

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 6 2022 6:59 utc | 221

One or both Ukrainian drones reported (social-media reported) to be upgraded Tu-141 drone - which is more like an old-school cruise missile with a big delta wing. Using closest possible Ukrainian-territory launch point east of Karkiv: 485km to Rayazan, 600km to Saratov (Engels). Not clear Rayazan *was* a Tu-141 or a drone at all.

Literature gives Tu-141 design rage of 1000km, so there would be no need to be launched 'right on the border' to reach their targets. 1000km is presumably *round-trip* as this was a reuseable recon drone. Russia hasn't used these for decades - only 140 or so ever built in Soviet Karkiv plant in 1970's. Ukraine may still have a dozen or so to upgrade unless they restarted production in 2014 (doubtful). Ukraine was using some as recon drones since 2014, but not extensively.

Russia reported hitting all of them (or the one) coming from Ukraine and claimed damage at Engels was caused by debris of one that was hit. Unverified claims/videos of multiple explosions both sites - not necessarily successful drone hit. Could have been air defense hit. Or may have been explosion unrelated to any drone (sabotage), esp. at Rayazan.

These missiles are launched from a towed launcher. Normally used for electro-optical reconnaissance missions, returning to firing or other 'friendly' point afterwards and recovered by parachute (no landing gear or ability). Note if parachute recovery sequence fails, missile continues flying along same path. Poland? A Ukraine version with a warhead crashed in Croatia like this a while back. Active command link has limited range, so if it comes home and won't pop its parachute, then it overflies and goes out of range.

Original guidance units were for low(er)-level navigation, maybe two or three thousand meters. No details of Ukraine (or US) upgrade, but probably much lower (100s of meters or so) to evade radar. Old-school recon equipment/radars/power would have weighed hundreds of kg. Repurposing as munition and using modern guidance allows addition of a pretty sizeable warhead to replace removed recon gear. No details of this mod available.

These would pose a substantial radar/infrared subsonic target for any air defenses. I can't imagine Russian AD was too worried about taking them down. If these cruise missiles/drones couldn't successfully take out at least one in a line of expensive bombers in the open at a military airport as seen at Engels, then it just isn't that much of a threat. Smoking hulk hitting a fuel truck doesn't count. The only challenge may have been that Russian AD may have had to let them get close enough (within ~40km) to target if they were approaching at very low level and/or maneuvering nap-of-earth. Russian AD can see them coming from much further away, but not consistently - they would blip in and out on longer-range radar. Still, easy to plot and time arrival for tasking to shorter-range air defenses designed to deal with low-level cruise missile threats. Actual Russian response is anyone's guess, but I would have a hard time believing they were surprised by this or didn't react properly/effectively.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Dec 6 2022 7:05 utc | 222

Excellent points, Paveway. My sense is that Russia will not do anything which could be constructed as further escalation, but will continue the economic war ("it's economy stupid") - it may take a long time, but the combined West is falling apart, the Biden machinations in Ukraine coming to fore; the strike of railroaders and their 'cancelling' by the USG is one more sign. People will see that there are billions for war and no 2 days of sick leave...This must click in the heads; And the discord among the "allies" with and inside EU is another problem. So, Russia will not sacrifice more their people than absolutely necessary. I may be wrong, but that is my hope.

Posted by: fanto | Dec 6 2022 4:49 utc | 197

The problem here is that you can't keep allowing attacks on the strategic nuclear forces without those starting to degrade at some point. This should be completely unacceptable and has to be stopped immediately.

The "economics war" is hopium, in the end it comes down to raw military power. The sole reason the US dollar dominates the world is that it is backed by the might of the US military. "You want us to pay you those green IOUs back with something of real value? Well, tough luck, come and make us do it" is how it really works.

Posted by: Tbx | Dec 6 2022 7:06 utc | 223

Posted by: Fnord73 | Dec 5 2022 23:28 utc | 123

Yes, well said. I've come to realise that I've been a willing party to what's effectively simply speculative propaganda from my 'preferred' 'analysts' etc. They know nothing more than I might, really. The only truth from the lot of them is the current position of the front line.

When I start getting pro active and looking around I go to Russian Telegram and take the trouble to translate some of their posts and i get a very different picture suggested. Suggested I say, not 'proven'.

Wherein the The Russian military has somewhat shocking systemic problems. Which range widely. Independent commands with no central oversight sometimes employing totally ridiculous and un-military policies. Undefended Kharkiv for instance. No defence in depth. No mines laid... Equipment simply not handed out, apparently. Men sent to the front line without equipment! That's suicidal to a war effort I would think. Equipment corrupted deliberately by profiteers, thieves, unscrupulous suppliers - like ration packs that are simply wrapped up blocks of wood ! Helmets made of cardboard! Military systems reeking of bureaucratic incompetence - like fire orders having to pass through the okay of a chain of officers before they can be given. So that a drone observation of a unmoving target (forget even trying for moving ones) might take ten minutes before it can be shelled! Soldiers not getting their pay!

Sorry I can't supply links to where I've read these bitter complaints but no matter, you'd require more than one instance anyway so better people look for themselves. Voenkop Kotenok was one such place I know.

And i remember reading some speech from some Russian military man which lent some weight to at least one of those areas. It was, I think, about the time of the retreat from Kherson and someone got up and praised some of the various commanders in the area, saying something like this or that one, these few, these exception ones, had performed excellently because they had ordered defences to be dug and such.. Somewhat extraordinary compliment one would think. One would expect such behaviour to be normal and mandatory and universal within the army. Apparently not so. It struck me at the time as being a little unusual, made me think.

And nowadays we read of enormous efforts going into fortifications.

Yes. I think the Russian military machine has a lot of deep, deep problems and that explains much of past performance. Much.

And I think they are coming to grips with all these problems right now. But I don't think they'll be quickly or easily overcome but if they are not sorted out then I do believe Russia could lose, really. Russia cannot lose overall, we know. But I do think Russia could lose much of what it has gained if it doesn't get its act together.

And just to end with I've noted that my small 'stable' of valued 'analysts' and 'observers' that as I mentioned I have been in the habit of consulting every day and blindly believing have never, it would seem, bothered to research those Russian and Ukrainian language Telegram posts. They never refer to them, never tell me of those aspects.

Hmmm. :)

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 6 2022 7:09 utc | 224


My mortgage never gets a mention though I think it perhaps the most significant element of the whole conflict.

Recently my payments have increased by more than $50 per week and with more to come.

All of which I take to be a direct result of the global sanctions imposed by the USA and its lackeys (which includes my own govt) in the name of the Ukraine conflict.

Piled on top of the damage done by the global 'sanctions' imposed by the USA and its lackeys in the name of fighting Covid.

That pain is enough to incentivise me enough to vote out the whole govt if only I could. I do expect thousands, millions, to feel the same way as myself. I don't think I am extraordinarily sensitive to economic pain.

So what's going on that the world is not up in arms I don't know. Perhaps they haven't made the connection yet? Well someone ought to tell them. Who will? You'd think Russia would be mounting enormous media campaigns but not so. Unless they're being squashed.


Posted by: abrogard | Dec 6 2022 7:18 utc | 225

🇺🇦⚡Cases of executions of the military for disobeying the orders of their commanders are observed in the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine deployed along the front line in the Donbass, said Andrei Marochko, an officer of the People's Militia of the Luhansk People's Republic.

According to him, cases of executions by a military field tribunal were recorded in the areas of the settlements of Artemovsk, Seversk, Kremennaya and Svatovo.


https://t.me/intelslava/42406

Summary execution caught in drone surveillance

◾Military expert Daniel Bezsonov @neoficialniybezsonov

◾Yesterday a quadcopter of our servicemen was lifted into the sky in Artemovsk (Bakhmut) direction for reconnaissance of the situation in the area of Ukrainian army positions. The operator of the quadcopter detected the movement of a group of the enemy along the landing, which is near the advanced positions of the AFU.

◾At first glance, it looked like the movement of a sabotage and reconnaissance group of seven people, so our drone operator decided to continue visual observation of the potential SRG. But soon it turned out that four AFU soldiers were leading three men in standard Ukrainian field uniforms to a firing squad. They chose an abandoned or spare trench as the place for the shootings, but they did not shoot them inside the trench, but on the surface.

◾Over the years, all of the AFU units have turned into Nazis themselves, and you don't need particularly rabid Right Sector people to shoot their "brothers-in-arms.


https://t.me/sitreports/1706

Posted by: Down South | Dec 6 2022 7:19 utc | 226

Re: Posted by: Anton Gorbatow | Dec 5 2022 18:17 utc | 9

Anton, Russia is going all out to win the war - haven’t you noticed the all-out Russian assault on the key town of Bakhmut over the last 9 months?!?!?

It’s been pretty much non-stop since February.

Posted by: Julian | Dec 6 2022 7:23 utc | 227

@ abrogard | Dec 6 2022 7:09 utc | 224

And what about the objective logical rational assessment over time re accuracy & reliability re subsequently corroborated/verified data over time of " ... those Russian(?)(Speech/Text)(?) and Ukrainian language Telegram posts. They never refer to them, never tell me of those aspects." ... & you two ?

Things that make you go, hmmm ... ?

Yeah, right.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 6 2022 7:28 utc | 228

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 6 2022 4:35 utc | 195

Beautiful, thank you. I had thoughts along those lines but my 'wild' imaginings fell well short of what I see now is today's reality.

So that just demonstrates quite vividly that this conflict is all theatre. The politics behind it are the reality. The dying and maiming is theatre for the masses. Not even trying to really be scrupulously honest. Showing us a movie set somewhere in the past while pretending it's today's war.

We're being played. By both sides. All sides.

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 6 2022 7:33 utc | 229

Brother Ma

Kaspersky: From Kurils With Love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHGarqZFY1k&t=1284s

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 6 2022 7:43 utc | 230

Posted by: cdvision | Dec 6 2022 4:13 utc | 192

I think you're right.

But how does the USA feel real pain? The people feel nothing. Know nothing. Feel nothing. Do nothing. And are anyway divided into two equal camps giving a net zero result.

We need the manipulators of the USA to feel pain - is that it?

Well when are they going to feel pain? How is that even possible? They are not really even American, are they? They are 'cosmopolitan'. They are globally wealthy. Citizens of the globe. Their wealth, their possessions, their interests, their friends - their whole lives are more a distributed global thing than any constrained American thing.

Tell me - how do we get at them?

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 6 2022 7:55 utc | 231

⚡️American General Wesley Clark: "Bakhmut is a meat grinder, the Russians trapped the Ukrainians.

The line of defence was lined up so that no one could escape".


https://t.me/Slavyangrad/23800

Posted by: Down South | Dec 6 2022 8:01 utc | 232

In response Skiffer who wrote: "So far, Ukrainian strikes on Russia have been strictly symbolic"
I agree with you. That sounds like the raid over Berlin of the French Farman F-223 « Jules Verne », on June 7, 1940. Two weeks later, France signed the Armistice. Better known, the "Doolittle raid" over Tokyo, on April 18, 1942, in retaliation of the attack of Pearl Harbor. More efficacious than the French raid since including 16 B-25.

Posted by: Hamilcar Barca | Dec 6 2022 8:26 utc | 233

As others have said, Ukraine used a UAV Tu-141 "Swift" to attack the Russian airfields.

Keep in mind that another Tu-141 flew all the way to Zagreb earlier this year, crossing through both Romanian and Hungarian airspace, without getting picked up on any NATO radars, so these things are pretty stealthy (despite their age).

Should note that originally the Tu-141 was a recon UAV so Ukraine has added an explosive payload to make it a kind of "long-range missile." THIS IS WHY the American media was publishing all those stories about how its missiles given to Ukraine were software-locked from being able to hit Russian soil.

Pay attention, bro!

Posted by: Sam | Dec 6 2022 8:34 utc | 234

@Peter AU1

"I looked at all the 2016 president of empire candidates web pages for foreign policy. Not a single yank arsehole had a foreign policy. Only war policy. War for the sake of war. Sheepdog sanders had war and peace policy."

This was accurate for 2016, when, aside from Jill Stein of the Green Party, the only person who was actually antiwar and with policies worth supporting was Tulsi Gabbard. Sadly she supported the sainted but tainted Sanders in 2016. When Sanders refused to say if he would run in 2020, she filed, only to have Sanders do his jobbforvthe Democrats, blocking progressives, and spoil her campaign by running against her. She ran on a platform that included the promise that, if elected (which, as a young, popular, woman of color, Congresswoman on multiple senior committees, currently serving military officer with multiple tours in Iraq, and a beautiful surfer, was actually possible see my analysis Gabbard Vs Sanders An Analysis), to, on her first day of office, call for a conference with all nuclear powers to denuclearize the world. So the Democrats cheated hard, and sadly, successfully, to make her simultaneously invisible and non grata (calling her a "Russian puppet", despite having nominated her to all of the top military and security Congressional committees).

I summarized all the 2018 candidates in a poem, I Love Trash!. Gabbard, Gravel and Williamson were the only exceptions to your description.

Posted by: Hermit | Dec 6 2022 8:48 utc | 235

Posted by: Mummer | Dec 5 2022 18:52 utc | 26

Russian Uranium boycott on USA? Doubt it. Global primary sources are Kazakhstan and Canada. The two biggest mines in the world are in Saskatchewan (Cigar Lake and McArthur River).

Posted by: TPaine | Dec 6 2022 8:50 utc | 236

Third, someone asked why aren't there concrete shelters for the planes? Well, Russia didn't expect to need them any time soon.

For the same reason there's no concrete shelters for the subs at Sevastopol, or a tunnel to Crimea, in the days of the USSR there used to be 2500km buffer from Ramstein to Belgorod, that was their protection. Look at a map in Soviet times the only way for NATO to attack Russia would be to first take Poland them Belarus, practically a funnel that would have no chance of success. The end of the USSR made the RF front lines once again vulnerable from Sochi to Murmansk as it was in the days of Napoleon and Hitler.

Since 1991 Russia has been continuously a ruble short and a day late, they lost 10ys with western patsys Gorbachev and Yeltsin, Putin saw that and started rectifying around the attack on the ruble in 1997 IIRC, but he didn't put the economy on a war footing for obvious reasons but mainly because he believed integration and western investment (an EU stake in Russian) was the best new buffer.

Nonetheless Putin incrementally built up the military, maybe planning for war readiness by 2030. But the USA noted, as with China, that fast economic and military growth there had dramatically shortened their timeline. I'm pretty sure that the planned attack on the Donbas and the sanctions blitz was supposed to occur after the big Hillary Clinton win but ran into the Trump gremlin who fucked it all up, hence the real reason for the rancor with the orange man.

Last February both sides struck well in anticipation of proper preparations and what you now see, what is so frustrating to arm chair generals, is the scramble on both sides to deal with a much bigger problem much earlier than anticipated.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Dec 6 2022 9:10 utc | 237

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 5 2022 21:54 utc | 93

Running/idling engines during hard winter - reminds me that in Canadian winter ops up North in the days when transports used big radial engines (e.g. DC4) the SOP included lighting bonfires under the cowlings to warm the pots up enough to turn over. There was also a tractor engine design called hot bulb ignition, mostly made in Sweden (Munktels) but popular globally, which required a blowtorch to start but could just be left running indefinitely - great for winter. Low compression ratio, burned just about anything. https://amp.enginediy.com/blogs/enginediy-blog-news-for-rc-engine/hot-bulb-engine Just making the point that winter ops are different and have unique specialised requirements, which I expect Russia has to plan for before moving ahead.

Posted by: TPaine | Dec 6 2022 9:23 utc | 238

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 6 2022 7:28 utc | 228

sorry but i don't quite understand your post. i think it may be saying I haven't checked my sources.

if so then I suggest you follow that trail for yourself: Russian soldiers (at all levels) reporting deficiencies (gross deficiencies) of all kinds.

if not then cool, no damage done.

:)

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 6 2022 9:34 utc | 239

(Doctorow) “... If publicized, these cases would be far more inflammatory in broad Russian society than the horrendous video which circulated in social media a week ago showing the brutal execution of a dozen disarmed Russian POWs by jubilant Ukrainian soldiers. Clearly, the Kremlin is holding this back, lest detailed knowledge of the Ukrainian brutality unleash violent emotions in the Russian public. ...”

Posted by: Ton | Dec 6 2022 2:15 utc | 172

Thanks for that.

Hard to comprehend from a “western” perspective, formed under multi-decadal exposure to US propaganda, all designed to instil an atavistic bloodlust, the root system of sado-fascism.

RF strategy continues to be one of resisting even the most extreme and visceral provocations.

Waiting calmly for another OPEC production cut followed by the emptying of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve sometime in January?

Posted by: anon2020 | Dec 6 2022 9:46 utc | 240

abrogard #229

We're being played. By both sides. All sides.

Perhaps. I notice some earlier discussion re Bakhmut by Julian, he is playing us right now. Bakhmut has only just come into play as it has only in the last couple of months been a battlefront.

Russia has vowed to denazify and demilitarise Ukraine. They do that by their persistent presence attracting nazi forces and the pressganged Uke soldiers to the battle lines and then destroy them. The cannon fodder, press ganged troops at the front and the nazi teams in their HQ to the rear.

Note that the Russians are not playing and are seriously out to destroy - so are the nazi ideologues. The human cost is revolting.

The west would have us believe all manner of ridiculous nonsense in this confrontation. They have insisted that everyone toe the line set by the false eagle.

Donovan got it right all those decades ago. "False eagle I don't want your wings, I don't want your freedom in a lie."

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 6 2022 10:04 utc | 241

TPaine #238

"Just making the point that winter ops are different and have unique specialised requirements, which I expect Russia has to plan for before moving ahead."

A considerable number of the Russian troops are volunteers from the extreme cold regions of northern Russia. For them I guess it is a balmy spring in midwinter Ukraine. The planning from the beginning was pretty intense from my observations.

Right from the beginning the rapid snatch of Mariupol neutralised the senior HQ staff. That is why the Ukes were desperate to spring their key officers. NATO got knackered. Remember all the Macron special pleading and Ukes NATO throwing helicopter sortie after helicopter sortie to attempt to spring the leadership team. Neutralised nazis... good.

Sure the Russians seem to have had reverses but the show goes on and daily we get to see through the fog that the westies are short of ammo, short on truth and zero on believability.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 6 2022 10:19 utc | 242

I read somewhere that only one of the two rail tracks is in use.

Posted by: Wim | Dec 6 2022 10:21 utc | 243

Posted by: mtw | Dec 6 2022 1:07 utc | 156
Thanks once again mtw…its nice people that understand the real world.
I keep tellin my kids but they think I,m barking with a cringe factor of 10.

Posted by: Scorpion | Dec 6 2022 1:31 utc | 160

Well u gotta handle on that scorpion…don’t disagree at all
But where do the zealots fit in…chabad lubavitch.
Trump is surrounded by them as is nuttyahoo
And all the 3rd temple bs and the messianic crap.
Not to mention the adrenochrome crowd.

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 10:24 utc | 244

‘Worse Than Soviet Mortars From WWII’: Ukraine’s Military Rages Over Vintage Weapons Sent by Italy

Italy’s new government “temporarily paused” arms deliveries to Ukraine in early November to assess the country’s own defense needs amid protests demanding that weapons shipments be permanently suspended. Last week, a government decree allowed for arms flows to continue through 2023.

The Ukrainian military is disappointed over the quality of weapons sent to the country by Italy, citing its age and the lack of appropriate ammunition, Italian media have reported, citing a reporter embedded in the conflict zone.
Troops are said to be “disappointed” by the 120 mm Mod63 mortars sent by Rome this past summer.
“These are old, outdated models that were made in 1966, and the optics and aiming systems date back to 1947,” the reporter said, paraphrasing sentiments that had been conveyed to him. “They are much worse than their Soviet equivalents from WWII. Our unit got six of them, but the ammunition never arrived from Rome.”

Servicemen adapted the mortar systems, ordinarily designed to fire 30 kg grenades, to shoot 16 kg US and Polish-made rounds, resulting in reduced accuracy and range. “Today we are barely able to fire two rounds per minute that do not fly beyond 3-4 km, less than half of what we expected. We are trying to replace them with much more advanced Swedish mortars,” the reporter said, conveying the soldiers’ complaints.

...

Such 'winning', not.

@ uncle tungsten | Dec 6 2022 10:19 utc | 243

All, very much so, indeed.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 6 2022 10:27 utc | 245

For the same reason there's no concrete shelters for the subs at Sevastopol, or a tunnel to Crimea, in the days of the USSR there used to be 2500km buffer from Ramstein to Belgorod, that was their protection. Look at a map in Soviet times the only way for NATO to attack Russia would be to first take Poland them Belarus, practically a funnel that would have no chance of success. The end of the USSR made the RF front lines once again vulnerable from Sochi to Murmansk as it was in the days of Napoleon and Hitler.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Dec 6 2022 9:10 utc | 237

I have often wondered what the hell were the military circles in the late-Soviet era thinking to allow that? Presumably the issues of strategic buffers and the dangers of losing them would be a huge concern for them, after all they had spent decades planning around those maps and studying the history of Russia. They must have known where this is headed.

Or perhaps they did see what is happening really had no real power to oppose it?

Posted by: Tbx | Dec 6 2022 10:28 utc | 246

Scott Ritter makes the point that Russia has done a good job. December 3. utoob 52 minutes.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 6 2022 10:28 utc | 247

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 6 2022 9:34 utc | 239

Perhaps you should check out the reported arrest of a Columbian in Moscow Giraldo Saraya Alberto Enrique, for dispersing multiple cellphones with various social media accounts imitating Russian nationals and spreading false information about the Russian military. This at the "persuasions" of foreign entities.

What verification do you have that Russian soldiers (at all levels) are whom they clam to be?

Just my €0.02...

Posted by: Richard Head | Dec 6 2022 10:30 utc | 248

Wim #244

"I read somewhere that only one of the two rail tracks is in use."

Keep reading and the next sentence will fill you in.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 6 2022 10:33 utc | 249

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Dec 6 2022 2:13 utc | 171

Good discussion on Pearl Harbor moment. "Normal" Americans tend to be isolationist {at least to a degree) unless "we" are fired upon or threatened, and then we want blood in return. Yes, Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. Yes, she was pushed to do so by the US (google McCollum memo). Viet Nam started with a fabricated attack on US Navy ships to justify escalation. And 9-11... that was a gift to neocons that kept giving. The WMD lie for Iraq.

I believe the US is prodding Russia via AFU and SBU (and their own Spec Ops forces) attacks to strike back against NATO assets to marshal public support as OP said and to paint themselves as the aggrieved party. Russia isn't taking the bait but rather fighting her war her way on her timing. I'm sure this is frustrating US leaders who would have gleefully responded to any similar provocations from Russia.

Posted by: mtw | Dec 6 2022 11:07 utc | 250

John helmer… Today.
http://johnhelmer.net/for-russian-oligarchs-home-sweet-home-isnt-home-away-from-home/#more-70332

“The British House of Lords”…….wrong…….British is bs…its Jewish
“it was designed to honour “special merit in strengthening peace, friendship, cooperation and mutual understanding between peoples.”
Substitute “cooperation” with the word corruption.
continuing
“It is known as the Order of Merit for the Fatherland. First created by President Boris Yeltsin in 1994”
“First created by President Boris Yeltsin”
I rest my case…

To continue…
The British Government has been making clear that haven for wealthy Russians has been for sale through investment visas at £2 million. This scheme lasted until February 2020. Haven for wealth, plus asylum and citizenship, have been offer to those Russians ready to provide intelligence information and help finance Russian opposition groups identified by MI6.
Boris Berezovsky and Mikhail Khodorkovsky have been the best known of these men. Sergei Pugachev was another, but when his lying was judged to be contempt of court, he moved to France. Two of Alexei Navalny’s financiers, Vladimir Ashurkov and Yevgeny Chichvarkin, are also London-based.

Helmer goes on to acidly and sarcastically paint the picture of dubious russian wealth

And its use.

I am still reading ….

I like where he,s going but he avoids conspicuously the Jew-word

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 11:17 utc | 251

http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/

Tuesday, 6 December 2022

SEX IN INDONESIA

Indonesia bans sex outside marriage in new criminal code.

well........we,re all fckd now...

stop the world...i wanna get off.

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 11:40 utc | 252

I am not here to misdirect the very intelligent strategic thinking and research that goes on…here at MoA
..quite the contrary.

I however have severe thoughts that the whole Russia /Ukraine saga is an organized barrel roll that has boundaries already cemented in place…subject to a few last minute variations.

I have stated many times that the “nuclear drama crap” as proposed by steven starr and his website
Is indeed just theatre….

They might play “mini-nukes”…like israel in lebanon/bali etc

I have asked the question….essentially…
Why do satellites still exist if this is serious.

n…I always come back to the answer that everything is conducted on some super-yaught off monanco or similar.

n if Putin were serious…he would sink a few.

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 12:14 utc | 253

So they get to own and we get to rent at monopoly prices if we are lucky. Gee, thanks.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Dec 6 2022 6:19 utc | 215

Socialism for Thee (the Sheople) but Capitalism for We (your overlords)!

I think the term techno-feudalism is pretty good.

Now : is New Eurasia headed that way too or not? Probably China is leading nation to answer that. They have huge population, mucho technology with surveillance but it can all go any which way, techno-fascist or 21st Century fantastically good polity rid of the corruptions and compromises of earlier systems. We await with bated breath!

Posted by: Scorpion | Dec 6 2022 12:37 utc | 254

And just to end with I've noted that my small 'stable' of valued 'analysts' and 'observers' that as I mentioned I have been in the habit of consulting every day and blindly believing have never, it would seem, bothered to research those Russian and Ukrainian language Telegram posts. They never refer to them, never tell me of those aspects.

Hmmm. :)
Posted by: abrogard | Dec 6 2022 7:09 utc | 224

Wow! What a great post, thank you. Reading it made me think that RF, as well as being a truly Great Civilizational Fatherland power etc is weaned on Mother Russia's milk of Rasputin-like fumes of primal faith and collective sacrifice. Spirit takes orecedence over matter, logistics or logic despite world renown on the battlefield of Chess.

A truly imaginative people as all true Christian Faithful must be, thus an instinctively inspired bulwark against marauding Materialists - albeit occasionally charging forward without boots or bullets and yet, like Rasputin, almost impossible to overcome!

Posted by: Scorpion | Dec 6 2022 12:59 utc | 255

The Russian army has received new T-90M "Breakthrough" tanks. Combat vehicles - about 200 units, have already been delivered to the zone of a Special Military Operation.(On the video they are in LPR)

https://t.me/azmilitary11/30184

Posted by: Down South | Dec 6 2022 13:02 utc | 256

Posted by: Down South | Dec 6 2022 13:02 utc | 256

Good, now waste the Nazi fucks.

I don't know why my recap of the newspaper headlines was deleted. It shows the level of hysteria of Western MSM wrt the Ukraine conflict very well and it IS on topic.

Posted by: Tichy | Dec 6 2022 13:04 utc | 257

So what's going on that the world is not up in arms I don't know. Perhaps they haven't made the connection yet? Well someone ought to tell them. Who will? You'd think Russia would be mounting enormous media campaigns but not so. Unless they're being squashed.


Posted by: abrogard | Dec 6 2022 7:18 utc | 225

We swim in a virtual sea of all-pervading News and Narrative, none of which we can touch or verify in our everyday lives. The result is individual and collective paralysis.

We are like deer mesmerized in the high beams unable to avoid collision with the unseen monster of metal and wheels inevitably behind.

Posted by: Scorpion | Dec 6 2022 13:08 utc | 258

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 11:40 utc | 252

Well, that's one way to guarantee you don't have any visitors or tourist trade...

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 6 2022 13:14 utc | 259

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 11:40 utc | 252

Ha ha ha ...
My first impression was this was a joke knowing how men are in Indonesia.

These guys are coming up with some brilliant ideas. Its almost as good as moving the capital from Jakarta to East Kalimantan.

Glad I'm out of there else things would have been extremely boring after work while in Sumatra or East Kalimantan.

https://imgflip.com/gif/1b7dcx

"According to sources, former Indonesian Special Forces boss Prabowo Subianto, who hopes to become President of Indonesia, often takes commercial flights to Bangkok to visit a Thai 'girlfriend'."

Of course they do !!! Same goes for the "very religious" and rich men/individuals from the Middle East.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgc_LRjlbTU

Posted by: Tom_12 | Dec 6 2022 13:15 utc | 260

Tichy @ 259
Yep your right.
Include...
America, Britain and Europe to that statement and we'll be getting near to the truth of it. Add the general public top to bottem
I'v been predicting the present outcome on this very site for several years, you would not beleave the hostility i was subjected to.
People on here, with very selective amnesia.
Not a single apology.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 6 2022 13:24 utc | 261

@ Down South | Dec 6 2022 13:02 utc | 256

Saw that reported elsewhere as well. They clearly were not deployed to LPR for 'parades'. However, the fact multiple footage has been released makes we wonder about 'Maskirovka' ... publicly demonstrate T90Ms on tank-transporters in southern zone, whilst prep for breakthrough assault in North ?

Only RF knows, we will only witness IT 'as' it happens ...

* Translated from the original Russian:

Statement by the Russian Defense Ministry

On December 6, as a result of the negotiation process, 60 Russian servicemen were returned from Kiev-controlled territory who were in mortal danger while in captivity.

◽️ The released servicemen will be flown to Moscow by Russian Air Force military transport aircraft to be treated and rehabilitated at Russian Defense Ministry medical facilities.

◽️ All released servicemen are provided with the necessary medical and psychological assistance.

& ... Translated: ...

ПЕРЕХВАТ (Z) (Transformation (Z))

The American cruiser "Yorktown" (type "Ticonderoga") is off to the scrapyard.

This cruiser is well known to RF by the episode of February 12 1988, when SCR "Bezvety" attacked "Yorktown" in the Black Sea, forcing it out of Soviet territorial waters.

As a result of the attack, the Bezvety bored(rammed/pierced) Yorktown & caused significant damage, after which the Americans retreated.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 6 2022 13:27 utc | 262

Melaleuka@193...yeah, rub it in :)

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 6 2022 14:00 utc | 263

My comment @ 261 agreeing Tichys comment @259 sadly now makes no sence as his comment got deleted.
His
Was a short paragraph about Uqraine army being nazi.
If the truth offends !
Hmmmm

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 6 2022 14:40 utc | 264

"..Apologies if this is a repost..." Pacifica_Advocate@218

It is at least the third re-post, but no apologies are needed. The message should be pinned at the top of every story about the war.
What Ukraine and NATO are doing to prisoners would have been war crime material if public knowledge (and this has been widely publicised by the perpetrators themselves) in any previous conflict.

The descent into Nazism, led by the US and UK, is gathering pace. The people need to be made aware of how close they are coming to the brutalities of a new Gestapo armed with technology only the stuff of nightmares ninety years ago.

Posted by: bevin | Dec 6 2022 14:57 utc | 265

Posted by: Ahole | Dec 5 2022 19:47 utc | 49

If Putin complains that Russia is fighting all of NATO, it is not for lack of NATO saying what would happen. From 2014 NATO publicly armed and trained Ukraine. Thirty high tech nations spent eight years arming and training Ukraine against further Russian advances. As part of that NATO implicitly backed the ugly Ukrainian assaults on its occupied east, as was perhaps justifiable but was really sad. Perhaps, really, just another provocation. But it does not matter what the provocation was, it was not an internationally condemned invasion.

Your "solution" to this problem makes no sense whatsoever. So Russia should go ahead and surrender to NATO (American Empire plus associated vassal states) and somehow Russia will be better off? How? A nuclear armed Ukraine and NATO Forward Operating Base on the Russian border is somehow in the interest of the Russian Federation and world peace? LOL!

Russia probably should have just done a regime change in Kiev back in 2014. Quick and easy, no time for the Nazis to consolidate their gains, etc. They should have just intervened in the coup like they did in Kazakhstan this year. Just quell the Nazi uprising and reinstall the legitimate government of Yanukovic, which is the last democratically elected President ALL of Ukraine voted for. All of Ukraine has not had a democratically elected government since that time. One puppet regime after the next. Russian puppet regimes are objectively in the interests of both Ukraine, Russia, and the world more generally. I would argue that a Russian puppet regime in Ukraine is actually in the American interest as well (not our government, I mean the regular people -- we benefit from world peace and international trade).

I'm not a complete idiot so I have no delusions about the "sanctity" of democracy. I know how stupid "the people" are in general so if their "voices" or "will" are suppressed that's not necessarily a bad thing. It ALWAYS and INVARIABLY depends on the specifics to me. If their voice is dumb then it's okay to suppress it. If it's smart, then it's wrong. Simple. Depends on what they're saying.

Posted by: TheMoronMajority | Dec 6 2022 15:33 utc | 266

Posted by: TheMoronMajority | Dec 6 2022 15:33 utc | 266

The people are not stupid.

And Russia was in no position to act in 2014, and the US knew it or they would not have usurped the legitimate government of Ukraine as they did. Also, Russia does not deal in usurpation, or haven't you noticed? Do not bother to respond. I just felt it my duty to set you straight. Hope I have.

Posted by: juliania | Dec 6 2022 15:40 utc | 267

"...We are like deer mesmerized in the high beams unable to avoid collision with the unseen monster of metal and wheels inevitably behind."

Posted by: Scorpion | Dec 6 2022 13:08 utc | 258

Way back when Thom Hartmann was a good guy on the radio, he gave an analogy which stuck with me, so I'll paraphrase this way, Scorpion: picture humankind as a vast community of beautiful deer grazing in a pasture ...all right, what kind of leadership does such a community have? Well, just one deer finishes his spot and decides to move on. Just one, not necessarily the biggest or bravest. Then, another follows, two more, three... soon the whole herd is moving.

We are almost there.

Posted by: juliania | Dec 6 2022 15:58 utc | 268

Also, Russia does not deal in usurpation, or haven't you noticed?

EVERY country does if it sees an opportunity - USSR certainly did............
France even sponsored Khomeini and let him return to Iran in the hope of Elf and Total supplanting British and US oil companies..........

Israel toppled Jeremy Corbyn as Leader of Labour Party in UK

Every British PM gets a Minder from the Israeli Embassy as Blair did in Lord Levy and Harold Wilson did in Joseph Kagan and David Cameron did in Andrew Feldman

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Dec 6 2022 15:59 utc | 269

Posted by: juliania | Dec 6 2022 15:58 utc | 268

I thought you'd go for the deer!

Posted by: Scorpion | Dec 6 2022 16:17 utc | 270

Posted by: juliania | Dec 6 2022 15:40 utc | 267

The People are not stupid.

Citation needed. The evidence shows that Joe Biden and Donald Trump are the best that society can come up with. We have precisely zero evidence that "the people" are smart -- none whatsoever. All of the evidence points in one direction, and that is that the people are INCREDIBLY ignorant of world affairs, and easily manipulated by utterly absurd media narratives.

You don't have any real explanation for how the world could be the way that it is if people WEREN'T stupid. That doesn't make any sense. The system itself depends on people being stupid, irrational, and ignorant. Without that, everything would fall apart. How could any Western leader remain in office if there weren't millions of dummies continuing to vote for them and support them? Practically every major policy that exists enjoys some level of public support, which by the way, is easy to manipulate anyway. It SHOULDN'T be this easy to manufacture consent, but it is, and not because people are smart. Quite the opposite.

You're just not willing to accept the evidence because it contradicts your preexisting belief in democracy and no other reason. You don't have any counter-evidence, let alone a counter-argument. Just your feelings, nothing more.

Posted by: TheMoronMajority | Dec 6 2022 16:39 utc | 271

It SHOULDN'T be this easy to manufacture consent, but it is, and not because people are smart. Quite the opposite.
Posted by: TheMoronMajority | Dec 6 2022 16:39 utc | 271

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Smart? Of course people are. They are also lazy. Laziness is the mother of invention!

Bread and circuses are sufficient to manufacture consent, in the absence of need.

Fat and happy people aren't stoopid. They're easy.

Posted by: too scents | Dec 6 2022 16:53 utc | 272

@ PavewayIV | Dec 6 2022 7:05 utc | 222

excellent commentary.. thank you...

Posted by: james | Dec 6 2022 17:13 utc | 273

tbx@233:

Re: stopping attacks on strategic nuclear assets:
how about total gloves off regarding Nato officers, advisors inside Ukraine- massive missile strikes simultaneously on all of their gathering places? And combine it with a missile strikes on infrastructure- especially electrical and for sure, right up to the Polish border.

A little wakeup call that as a benefit will help increase the refugee burden upon those frail European shoulders.

Posted by: morongobill | Dec 6 2022 17:26 utc | 274

the Eurasian economic landscape will look rather different at 2023's end with the EU & UK prostate [italics added]

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 5 2022 19:31 utc | 43

Freudian slip? 8^)

Posted by: David Levin | Dec 6 2022 17:32 utc | 275

@b

Augustus Caesar 146

Posted by: Hermit | Dec 6 2022 17:59 utc | 276

Posted by: TheMoronMajority | Dec 6 2022 16:39 utc | 271

I think it fairer to say that the people are more stupefied than stupid per se.

And these days we the people are indeed quite stupefied.

Posted by: Scorpion | Dec 6 2022 18:11 utc | 277

It's not just the impossibility of wasting 2% of a rapidly shrinking GDP there's the lack of energy to power any such industrial effort. And then there's the issue of "defending" the UN Charter while actively breaking it daily. His words are akin to the standing water in Ukrainian trenches that he ought to be buried in.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 6 2022 5:51 utc | 208

A modern economy as advanced as, say, Iran, produces quite a bit more than necessary for survival, so it should be POSSIBLE to increase defense spending from 1 to 3%, energy production, transmission etc. infrastructure in a similar way, shrink GDP by 10% and balance the budget, but the question is: why the hell do it?

Paraguay in 19th century suffered perhaps the most dire war losses among ALL countries in the world, counting only those that still exist today, so not surprisingly, it has the highest defense spending percentage of GDP in Latin America, 2.6%. Nevertheless, the true cornerstone of the country security is scrupulous avoidance of attacking both (much bigger) neighbors at once, or even one of them, or even introducing significantly hostile policies toward even one of them. Of course, they spend enough on the military for the eventual re-match of Chaco war... Similarly, Germany should be ready to prevent any Polish attempt of sizing 380 billion Euros by force which cannot be TOTALLY excluded.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Dec 6 2022 18:37 utc | 278

Thanks, bevin; and yes, Outraged: you're right. Everything the US accuses Russia of is something its proxies are guilty of.

That last comment seems to be a defacto truism, here in the age of the CIA/FBI.

Posted by: Pacifica_Advocate | Dec 6 2022 18:45 utc | 279

Posted by : watcher | 5 december 2022 23:24 UTC | 118

Thank you watcher! You are right.Greta Thunberg seems to drive elderly men crazy. Greta is a marvellous young wise girl, I once read on Facebook some years ago a comment written with admiration by a young man "Imagine what a wonderful woman Greta will be when she is 25 years old."The difference between oldfashioned men and the new generation of men.

Posted by: Northern Eve | Dec 6 2022 18:49 utc | 280

Photos of a damages Backfire bomber suggest that a missile or drone was intercepted at close range. The damage appears to be serious but repairable. The Backfire bomber is not a strategic bomber but it is a nuclear capable tactical bomber comparable to the old US FB-111. I don't necessarily accept the assertions by some on this forum that an attack on nuclear weapons systems will provoke retaliation with nuclear weapons. However; it will provoke alarm resulting in elevated alert status. This is damnably dangerous.

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Dec 6 2022 21:11 utc | 281

Russia airbases hit are the result of Putin's so called slow grind limited operation, meanwhile he's still calling the collective west "our partners", jeez you'd think he'd wake up by now. Idiot!

Posted by: Hannibal | Dec 6 2022 22:31 utc | 282

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 6 2022 0:35 utc | 150
«IMO, there's only one way for Europeans to escape the fate Crooke describes and it's the same I've prescribed since last February--abandon EU and NATO and become sovereign again.»

Unfortunately european states don't have a choice between being USA vassals and trade only with the USA sphere of influence or “become sovereign again” and trade with both the USA and China/Russia sphere of influence.

The USA have made clear that it is either-or, not both. States that choose trade with the China/Russia sphere of influence don't get to trade with the USA one (and also get regime-changed or wrecked at the earliest opportunity).

Trade with only the USA sphere of influence is still a better alternative for most european states than trade with only the China/Russia sphere of influence (and the USA also have a much better record of inflicting regime-change or wrecking to recalcitrant states than China/Russia). European governments, even if they were not suborned by the USA, would still choose to be vassals of the USA as it is the lesser evil (even if it is quite painful right now).

European states will only “become sovereign again” when the USA will become as weak as China/Russia.

Posted by: Blissex | Dec 6 2022 23:18 utc | 283

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 6 2022 7:09 utc | 224
«Wherein the The Russian military has somewhat shocking systemic problems.»

All militaries have those problems, they are very messy organisations. The question is whether they are worse than those of the enemy military, and whether there is political will and funds to fix them.

Posted by: abrogard | Dec 6 2022 7:18 utc | 225
«My mortgage never gets a mention though I think it perhaps the most significant element of the whole conflict. Recently my payments have increased by more than $50 per week and with more to come.»

That relates to my point why most "engaged" voters in USA/UK/... have not protested through decades of neoliberalism and warmongering: because so many of them have been making enormous profits (entirely redistributed from the lower classes) on their real estate (and in part in the USA on stocks), with very low mortgage payments and prices doubling every 10 years. As long as that continues their prevailing attitude are "F*ck you! I got mine" and "Don't make waves" and they write blank checks to the governments that deliver those enormous profits to them.

Posted by: Blissex | Dec 6 2022 23:32 utc | 284

After this war, either side rebuilding bridges should go for tunnels.

Posted by: Simon | Dec 7 2022 3:56 utc | 285

...Fuel or ammo can explode when they hit the ground. A drone can be disabled without complete destruction in air so when it falls there still are things that can explode.

rk | Dec 5 2022 18:12 utc | 7

There have been multiple reports of exactly that event that occurred in places such as Israel.

I agree. Nevertheless b's suspicions are also quite valid too.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Dec 7 2022 10:37 utc | 286

As the wheels fall off of 404 State, Kiev needs substitute topics to jawbone about.
Enter Digital Currency and Digital Transactions.

"Ukraine may be suffering a rising wave of rolling power blackouts and internet outages as the proxy war between Russia and NATO intensifies, but that doesn’t seem to have crimped the Zelensky government’s ambitions to transform the country into a digital wonderland. In the past week alone, Ukraine’s central bank unveiled plans for a digital E-hryvnia and Kyiv signed a digital trade agreement (yep, they do exist) with the United Kingdom."

Wonderland ???? More like Fairyland.

"While it is true that identifying citizens in the midst of war is both a challenging and vital task, digital identity is an area in which Ukraine already excels. In fact, as the digital rights group Reclaim the Net notes, it has a great deal to teach the UK on the matter:

Ukraine’s highly-sophisticated digital ID, Diia, is used to grant the public access to most government services online. It has nine digital credentials: the ID card, the identity provider (IDP) certificate for network access, birth certificate, passport, driving license, tax number, student card, and vehicle registration certificate."


https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/12/against-the-backdrop-of-war-ukraine-is-rapidly-digitizing-everything.html

Brilliant, Virtual Currency for a Virtual Economy.
Hope Greta and Friends help with funding wind turbines for the needed electricity, because fighting climate can not be neglected in these trying times.

Cocaine Cowboy is loosing it.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Dec 7 2022 12:52 utc | 287

@277

so it seems, stultified by various techniques ranging from mass media over consumption addiction to drugs. On the other hand, a given percentage of every population, disregarding economic or intellectual status, are "stupid" (see Carlo Cipolla's scorching pamphlet "The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity"). And I'm pretty sure Western politicians show a wonderful amount of that inborn stupidity, whatever their college degree. In short: stupid leaders are tolerated by stupified masses. So Rome will burn.

Posted by: Anthony | Dec 7 2022 21:18 utc | 288

-Bombing the Crimea bridge with an innocent man behind the wheel

-Giving Russia a reason to bomb Ukraine's power grid in retaliation


The biggest self-own in the history of modern warfare.

Posted by: Tenet | Dec 11 2022 17:31 utc | 289

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