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December 05, 2022

Ukraine - Crimea Bridge Repaired, No Ammunition, Drone Attacks In Russia

On October 8 a Ukrainian bomb destroyed the southern part of the car bridge to Crimea. The northern part was also slightly damaged, a passing train on the rail bridge next to it burned out. Some people in Kiev were quite happy about it:

Syricide @Syricide - 8:33 UTC · 10 Oct 2022 #Kiev yesterday.

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But the train traffic resumed a day later. The northern part of the car bridge was checked and car traffic in both directions was allowed. Repair preparations for the broken southern part immediately began.

Two days later the Russian military responded to the attack with the first intense strike against Ukraine's electricity infrastructure.

Now, less than two month later, the work is already done. Four damaged bridge spans have been replaced and a new tar cover has been laid on them. Today the Russia president drove a car over it:

Putin, accompanied by Deputy Prime Minister Marat Khusnullin, was shown on state television behind the wheel of a Mercedes, asking questions about where the attack took place.

"We are driving on the right hand side," Putin said, as he drove across the bridge. "The left side of the bridge, as I understand it, is in working condition, but nevertheless it needs to be completed. It still suffered a little, we need to bring it to an ideal state."

Putin also walked along parts of the bridge, Europe's largest, to inspect sections that are still visibly scorched.

Bidirectional traffic will now run on the southern span while the slightly damaged northern span will be repaired. This is likely to be finished before the end of the year.

Since the bridge attack the electricity infrastructure of Ukraine has received more missile attention. Today another attack followed. Kiev is again without electricity and water. It may well find that it will no longer be able to repair the damage.

One wonders what the people who posed in front of that bridge attack stamp poster think about that.

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Another bad news for Kiev is that the U.S. publicized that it has limited the range of the missile launchers it had given to Ukraine:

The U.S. secretly modified the advanced Himars rocket launchers it gave Ukraine so they can’t be used to fire long-range missiles into Russia, U.S. officials said, a precaution the Biden administration says is necessary to reduce the risk of a wider war with Moscow. The U.S. since June has supplied Ukrainian forces with 20 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System launchers, or Himars, and a large inventory of satellite-guided rockets with a range of almost 50 miles. U.S. officials say the Pentagon has modified the launchers so they can’t fire long-range missiles, including the U.S.’s Army Tactical Missile System rockets, or ATACMS, which have a range of nearly 200 miles.

That this was published is likely a hint to Ukraine that any attempt to acquire ATACMS from some U.S. allies who also have those systems will be useless. But what happens if they provide such missile and launchers that were not disabled to use them? Is the U.S. confident that its allies will make similar modifications?

The Ukrainian war machine is running on empty because the 'west' can no longer provide weapons and ammunition in meaningful quantities. The chance to change that in any reasonable time frame is low:

“High-end conflict consumes a lot of munitions and a lot of weaponry,” Mike McCord, the Pentagon’s top budget official, said in an interview. “We are also looking at the supply chain limitations. We haven’t got this figured out just yet.”

Top Pentagon and industry officials maintain that efforts are finally ramping up to replace the weapons that the United States and its allies have shipped to Ukraine — depleting stockpiles that are deemed crucial to deterring China or other potential adversaries for years to come.
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She cited recent deals for tens of thousands of 155mm artillery rounds that the Ukrainians are using up almost as soon as they arrive. By the spring, “we will be able to do 20,000 rounds a month,” she said.

But it will take time to manufacture enough of them, she said, adding that the U.S. will get that rate up to 40,000 rounds a month in the spring of 2025.

20,000 rounds is what the Russian army uses in Ukraine on a quiet day. 40,000 rounds per day may be the average consumption, 60,000 rounds per day are fired when things get hot. It also produces enough to replace those rounds.

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This morning an explosion took place at a Russian airfield in the Volga region. The Russian military now says that it was from the debris of an Ukrainian drone that its air defenses had shot down:

AZ @AZgeopolitics - 17:13 UTC · 5 Dec 2022

🇺🇦✈️🇷🇺The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation: On the morning of December 5, the Kiev regime attempted to strike with jet drones at the "Dyagilevo" and "Engels"airfields.

Ukrainian UAVs flying at low altitude in the Ryazan and Saratov regions were intercepted by air defense means

Three Russian soldiers who were at the airfield lost their lives as a result of an attack by the Kiev regime, four more were wounded and taken to hospitals.

Ukrainian UAVs fired at Russian airfields were intercepted by air defense means.

As a result of the fall and explosion of the wreckage of Ukrainian UAVs at Russian airfields, the hull plating of two aircraft was slightly damaged.

Video showed that the explosion in Saratov took place on the ground. Air defense usually explodes a drone while it is still flying. I therefore doubt that the Russian report of this is completely truthful.

One also wonders where Ukraine found jet powered, long range suicide drones. It strongly doubt that these were homemade or will become available in higher quantities.

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Link to Guardian 2022-03-11.


A Tupolev Tu-141 that flew undetected over several Nato countries from Ukraine crashed overnight in the Croatian capital, Zagreb, triggering a loud blast but causing no injuries, Croatian authorities have said.

The Croatian president, Zoran Milanović, said it was clear the drone came from Ukraine. A statement issued by Croatia’s government said the “pilotless military aircraft” entered Croatian airspace from neighbouring Hungary at a speed of 700km/h (434mph) and an altitude of 1,300 metres (4,265ft).

The Croatian prime minister, Andrej Plenković, said: “According to information I have so far, this flying object was Russian-manufactured, we are not sure whether it belongs to the Russian or Ukrainian army.”

He added that it had come from the direction of Hungary, and that according to the prime minister there, Viktor Orbán, it had arrived via Romania.

The Croatian government said an official criminal investigation would be launched and that Nato would be informed of the incident. The large drone flew for at least 350 miles (560km) apparently undetected by air defences in Croatia, Hungary and Romania, all members of the western military alliance.

The Ukrainian defence ministry adviser, Markian Lubkivskiy, was quoted by the Interfax news agency as denying the drone was Ukrainian. He put the blame for the incident on Russia.

“This drone did not have Ukrainian markings,” he was quoted as saying. “There were red stars on it” – a symbol of the Russian military.

The Russian embassy in Zagreb said the drone was made in Ukraine and that Russian forces had stopped using Tu-141s since the breakup of the Soviet Union in 1991.

Milanović said “the serious incident” must be thoroughly investigated to determine “how a relatively unsophisticated drone flew for over an hour over Nato countries without being detected”.

He said that the drone crashed in Zagreb after running out of fuel.

Witnesses quoted by the media said they first heard a large explosion that rocked the ground, followed by a foul smell.

Posted by: gary | Dec 5 2022 22:24 utc | 101

The only bomber of which there is photo evidence of damage is a TU-22M3M at Dyagilevo Airfield. No photos of Tu-95 damage at Engels.

The Tu-22M3M is a tactical bomber, not strategic. A bit like a bigger etc F-111B.

Posted by: JohninMK | Dec 5 2022 22:25 utc | 102

Mr.Putin is a joker or what ? Thd other joker jn ukraine seems more capable than this big talker mr putin who is testing the bridge on day the ukies decided to use old style contraption to kill 5 Russian soldiers in the russian airport . And what about hushed up dilencs about british involvemdng in destroyuing gas pipe lind abd ghd cfinean bridge? Why has russia not bombed thd GHQE And Mi6 headquarters?
What game is putin playing with the Russians?
Everybody is waiting for snow to arrive _is the russian army reduced go react only or even not that , to attacks from nato in ukraine as now?

Posted by: Sam | Dec 5 2022 22:41 utc | 103

psychohistorian @ 94

Maybe the shit show will consume itself....grin

It'll be around as long as humanity walks the earth. There is no Star Trek enlightened future, just moments of exhaustion that seem like calm and well being, like 1945-75. Then the energy and madness spiral up again.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Dec 5 2022 22:41 utc | 104

Posted by: Bernd | Dec 5 2022 22:08 utc | 98

I dont understand why are you posting this here. At this board you will find an average cross section of opinions on gender identity, representative of the whole world.

You frame it as if there is some hard conservative bias here. Or as a bait to draw the more extreme elements out in order to label the forum.

Most of us have no problem with how two adult’s love each other. With the accent on “adults” of course. But brain fried extreme progressives see a violent enemy that must be neutered in anyone that expresses even the modicum of concern or distrust in authorities over the way our kids are introduced to a complex adult issue as gender identity.

All I ask of for people only being allowed to decide if they want to chemically or surgically alter their body at or after the same age when they are allowed to vote or drive a car. Before then: back off the kids!

Posted by: alek_a | Dec 5 2022 22:44 utc | 105

Posted by: Bernd | Dec 5 2022 22:08 utc | 98

Pretty much agree with you.

Guys, there are homosexual dogs, and never forget the Bonobos, our closest relatives, for whom all sorts of sexual practices are a normal part of social interaction. Homosexuality is common enough in the animal kingdom, so we need not assume it is an aberration.

Since I fully grasp the principle of the selfish gene, for all animal societies it comes down to an equation. The factors assisting the survival and growth of gene A, are of course the usual - capacity to catch and digest foods, find shelter and protect from predators, combined with parental care. However in more complex social groups, these factors are also influenced by other members of the group, mostly relatives. It actually comes down to who has the most great grandchildren. If the most gg children are produced by having lots of sons who spread it around, then homosexuality will NOT flourish, but if that is not possible - eg shortage of women, or too many brothers or cousins killing one another squabbling over the women, then there will be a tendency to reduce the number of males surviving or IF the society is warlike and needs male strength to protect the whole tribe, then what better way to ensure lots of great grandkids but to have some warrior sons who will protect the family but will not kill big brother or nephew in fighting for the women. This is just my own theory but it is similar to the one that provides an evolutionary justification for human female menopause- not fund anywhere else. There is also evidence that homosexual males become more likely when a woman has more sons, ie the younger ones are definitely spares.

Posted by: watcher | Dec 5 2022 22:47 utc | 106

A major reality check and wake-up call: https://mronline.org/2022/12/03/russia-has-lost-the-war/

Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Dec 5 2022 22:47 utc | 107

Posted by: Sam | Dec 5 2022 22:41 utc | 103

The only joker around here is you Sam. Really, bomb Mi6? Are you even old enough to be up this late? Maybe you should ask mommy and Daddy to tell you about Thermonuclear war. Or do they suffer from the same mental impairments that you do?

Posted by: Ed | Dec 5 2022 22:50 utc | 108

The interesting question is whether the rail line part of the Kerch bridge is usable or not. And is it operating at full capacity?

I'm not going to believe anything the Russians (or anyone here) say about that. I'd have to see a video that could be positively dated to today showing the railline in use, or I would accept a U.S. or Ukranian source (since a working Kerch bridge is contrary to their interests). People who call me a troll, especially, do not bother to reply without including this kind of evidence


Posted by: GoFast | Dec 5 2022 18:53 utc | 27

Well, passenger trains are running. You can buy a ticket - https://ticket.rzd.ru/searchresults/v/1/5a323c29340c7441a0a556bb/5a13b980340c745ca1e7b24b/2022-12-07

Posted by: Lurker from Moscow | Dec 5 2022 22:58 utc | 109

Posted by: Bernd | Dec 5 2022 22:08 utc | 98

Posted by: watcher | Dec 5 2022 22:47 utc | 106

perhaps Bernd and watcher should get married.

Posted by: harryash | Dec 5 2022 23:01 utc | 110

Posted by: watcher | Dec 5 2022 22:47 utc | 106

Can we call that the “tribal theory of gayness”?

Posted by: alek_a | Dec 5 2022 23:01 utc | 111

>Posted by: Bernd | Dec 5 2022 22:08 utc | 98
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>And please do not come up with child abuse. Most of it happens – and all stats show it -in straight relationships. Gay = paedophile is a right wing propaganda tool. Reality and statistics proves it that it is wrong.

Utilizing data from the yeard 2010 in the National Child Abuse Neglect Data System (NCANDS), of the 66,765 substantiated child sexual abuse cases, 13,492, or 21%, had females as the primary perpetrator. In 20% of the confirmed cases, male perpetrators offended male victims, compared to 80.5% of the cases where male perpetrators offended female victims. [Since only 2-3% of men are homosexual*, they are greatly overrepresented proportionally speaking].

In 31% of the substantiated cases, female perpetrators offended male victims, compared to 69% of the cases where female perpetrators offended against female victims. [Nearly 7 of 10 female child abusers are dikes abusing females].

>Homosexuality always has been – if u like it or not – been part of humanity. Get finally used to it.

"Part of humanity" is something completely different than the major homosexual assault on traditional homosexual society which started in the 20th century and has been getting exponentially more and more degrading.

*(Source: In the first large-scale government survey measuring Americans' sexual orientation, the NHIS reported in July 2014 that 1.6% of Americans identify as gay or lesbian, and 0.7% identify as bisexual. 1.5% of women self-identify as lesbian and 0.9% consider themselves bisexual, while 1.8% of men consider themselves gay and 0.4% identify as bisexual.)

Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Dec 5 2022 23:06 utc | 112

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 5 2022 20:29 utc | 57

I live in what seems to be a similar climate to Donbass.

For a few weeks in Nov we had hard freeze weather -- low 20sF overnight, one night of 15. Ground froze good & solid.

Then swung to above freezing this week. The ground thawed into muck again.

I suspect the point is any major offensive will have to be postponed until hard freeze returns & holds.

I got into a debate about this weeks ago on a substack when I said that it was possible the anticipated offensive wouldn't be possible until end Dec or early Jan. Wish I could remember where now, lol.

Posted by: Mary | Dec 5 2022 23:07 utc | 113

I saw the video of Putin driving along the half-empty Kerch Bridge. I was wondering why there is a red dividing line between the two lanes, if both spans (2 + 2 lanes) of the motorway are now in use.

Evidently the undamaged southern span of the motorway will now need "repairs". These repairs will take 9 months, or as long as the Special Military Operation will take. In reality, the southern span will be reserved for military traffic only. Another reason for closing it is that any truck or car bomb on the southern span, between the railway and the northern motorway span could do more damage than the October Surprise bomb.

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Note that the railway bridge is on the seaward, southern side of the motorway bridges. The damaged span was to the north, facing the Sea of Azov.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Dec 5 2022 23:12 utc | 114

The homosexual stuff is off-topic. Did b post a general thread today? I don't see it.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 5 2022 23:13 utc | 115

I'd have to see a video that could be positively dated to today showing the railline in use, or I would accept a U.S. or Ukranian source (since a working Kerch bridge is contrary to their interests). People who call me a troll, especially, do not bother to reply without including this kind of evidence

Posted by: GoFast | Dec 5 2022 18:53 utc | 27

Okay. How about we call you lazy instead. A simple internet search shows that even Ukrainian media reported bridge rail traffic was restored later the same day, once the damaged cars were removed.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 5 2022 23:19 utc | 116

Anton Gorbatow | Dec 5 2022 20:48 utc | 68

SloSMO. It’s the way to go! (Dunno). But Brian Berletic @New Atlas claimed it was a strategy.
The USNATO has to schlep everything- troops- wonder weapons- whatever 1000km across Ukraine to the Donbas (and Once Upon A Time) Kherson.
Then they have to schlep wunderweapons back 1000kms to Poland for repairs.
Berletic claimed this was Russia forcing USNATO to expend resources on exhausting and vulnerable transport.
Russia’s supply lines were measured in 10s and 100s kms, not 1000+.
At the time I thought his claim interesting, but IMO unconvincing.
Now… he might have been correct… Ukraine has served up (??) 100k- 500k(???) troops to the contact line… And Russia has arty or droned em dead or as good as.
Shoigu has never taken any of my calls, so I can’t say … but something seems to have changed, and the Russians now want to stop the USNATO further west…. Maybe eventually Lvov.
A huge supposition on my part is the expanded (or new and improved) military agreement now signed with Belarus.
There’s plenty of Russian troops in Belarus, and Lukashenko says they are now “one army”. If the Russians intend to enter Ukraine from the north / Belarus border, then they would first cut off access to the east, and push the Ukies back onto their western haunch.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 5 2022 23:19 utc | 117

Posted by: harryash | Dec 5 2022 23:01 utc | 110

Your comment regarding Greta Thunberg was so despicable that it makes every comment not worth bothering about. You are probably nothing more than a sexist, homophobic, anti science poster of the QAnon variety but it is possible you are also a troll, setting out to bring this site down.

Sorry for posting in this stream. I did wonder whether bernd might be our host.

Posted by: watcher | Dec 5 2022 23:24 utc | 118

upstater | Dec 5 2022 22:07 utc | 97
“…Russia……found ways to acquire semiconductors.
Doh. I should be a paid intel guy. *everyone* knows that’s why they steal the washing machines 😁

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 5 2022 23:25 utc | 119

"Is the U.S. confident that its allies will make similar modifications?"

The UK and the Germans supplied tracked versions (SloMARS?), and I doubt they nerfed them. The UK especially. We're gung-ho, and run by idiots.

Posted by: Radish Wrangler | Dec 5 2022 23:25 utc | 120

I see people have mentioned the visit of Victoria Nuland to Kiev a few days ago.
One of the unusual things about it was that she stayed and didn't leave until the following day.
I wonder if this is the start of a new trend.
Sleepovers with Zelensky.

Posted by: Orchard1 | Dec 5 2022 23:26 utc | 121

refer:

Video showed that the explosion in Saratov took place on the ground. Air defense usually explodes a drone while it is still flying. I therefore doubt that the Russian report of this is completely truthful.
One also wonders where Ukraine found jet powered, long range suicide drones. It strongly doubt that these were homemade or will become available in higher quantities.

Yes & No.
These are today just now some very-new NATO attacks newly to proof & have tried how far to perform a small step further of escalating the planned operation (SMO) to attack RU-lands directly.
But, piece by piece, part-by-part the AVU seems to be successful going eastwards (even repulsed sometimes), but really, towards penetrating the entire of the RU-landsmarks ie. in Donbass today. Someone killed/wounded in Donjetz, that's a very all known and tolerated principle.
Todaqy, "some" civis lost their live. Some more civis are wounded.
RU - go on - or reject.
RU must be very careful, even had success in Bachmut, a rocket fight into its main land, far over 1.000 km is a considerable thing to plan about a new strategic offense ...

Posted by: spare_truth | Dec 5 2022 23:27 utc | 122

"I am sure that the final outcome will be an unconditional surrender of Ukrainian forces, the relinquishing of Kiev and Kharkiv and Odessa and everything in-between."

This is kind of funny. Does it seem that the Ukrainans will do a unconditional surrender? Does it seem like Russia has the manpower for a occupation of Ukraine? They are barely hanging on to what they have taken, and even that is in grave danger. How many of their best storminfantry are being grinded down in Bakhmut? How many of the defenders on the frontlines have proper winterkit, like the Ukrainians have gotten from NATO? I have continually seen fantasies here about a offensive once the frost hits, where are their logistical capacity for fueling such a offensive? You guys are indeed far nto QAnon land in reality comprehension as far as I can read.

Posted by: Fnord73 | Dec 5 2022 23:28 utc | 123

"Russian troops in Belarus, and Lukashenko says they are now “one army”. If the Russians intend to enter Ukraine from the north / Belarus border, then they would first cut off access to the east, and push the Ukies back onto their western haunch."
Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 5 2022 23:19 utc | 117

Melaleuca....exactly the above has been lingering in the thoughts of many who post here...probably as you are very aware.
this is why we,re trying to find the famous 1000 snow painted tanks and the other mechanised units....
which might indicate actual intentions.

Posted by: harryash | Dec 5 2022 23:29 utc | 124

RSH @115--

IMO, the OT comments reflect the growing unimportance of Ukraine's stew as the EU and North American stews gain more attention. The ground won't freeze fast enough for many and the sacrifice of several hundred Ukrainians daily is no longer exciting. Sad, but true.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 5 2022 23:29 utc | 125

Melaleuca #117

Agreed the One Army is moving. The west is gonna get crowded and crappy.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 5 2022 23:32 utc | 126

A major reality check and wake-up call: https://mronline.org/2022/12/03/russia-has-lost-the-war/

Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Dec 5 2022 22:47 utc | 107

The "left" in the US, and I suspect around the globe, are in the midst of an identity crisis. Many have become "left Liberals" who have become weak kneed and confused about issues like war, issues that they used to be united around, like unjust wars for example.

This is in large part due to the Democratic Party's concerted effort by neo-liberals to bring them into the party at election time by pretending that the DP is "progressive" at heart even if they must compromise on some things to achieve other things. A war started, or continued, by a Democratic president is by its nature "a progressive" war that is good for democracy and freedom, but not always true for a Republican president.

Turns out that what is left of the so called "left progressives" are about as gullible and dimwitted as they can possibly be. The article that you attached to this site is proof of that.


Posted by: Ed | Dec 5 2022 23:34 utc | 127

"Your comment regarding Greta Thunberg was so despicable that it makes every comment not worth bothering about. You are probably nothing more than a sexist, homophobic, anti science poster of the QAnon variety but it is possible you are also a troll, setting out to bring this site down."

Posted by: watcher | Dec 5 2022 23:24 utc | 118

Oh...all of those watcher...in fact I,m trying hard to be worse. lol

Posted by: harryash | Dec 5 2022 23:36 utc | 128

Ukrainians are still ready to die in spite all the losses.
Can they be compared to Japan imperial soldiers in WWII, related to their suicidal tactics?

Posted by: margo | Dec 5 2022 23:37 utc | 129

Apparently (and surprisingly) little concern about the Tu-141 drone attacks. I can't think of a clearer example of an attack against Russia on its own territory. No big deal because Russia and Ukraine are already at war, right?

Well, no. Hardly. I don't know how to say this any more clearly, RUSSIA IS NOT AT WAR WITH UKRAINE TODAY. Regardless of armchair observations and practical effects, this is still a limited, restrained military action by Russia. Ukraine can pout and cry all they want, but Russia has not declared war on them, nor have they mobilized the Russian army nor have they reacted as if they were under attack by Ukraine.

Zelensky and company do not do anything without direct commands from either US/UK/NATO or Azov Mafia NAZIs. One of them has basically commanded (or enabled) Zelensky to send a clear signal to Russia that Russia is under direct attack. Certainly far clearer than the limited attacks/sabotage up until now (which one could easily argue were also direct attacks, but whatever...).

Again, here we go down the slippery slope to WWIII. Russia declaring war on Ukraine is pretty damn close. If this doesn't push them over the edge, the next attack will.

Ukraine, with all the NATO/NAZI backing on earth, cannot possibly withstand an attack by the full might of the Russian military. Both NATO and the NAZIs will over-react (I can hear the war pigs wailing now).

Seems to me to be a pretty significant - and intentional - escalation. No matter. What's kind of intriguing to me is the *seeming* lack of concern here. This is the biggest provocation since the Crimean Bridge and the Ukrainians (and evil backers) are milking it for everything it's worth. This isn't just another step closer to WWIII, but a pretty damn vigorous leap.

Does everyone here think this is 'just another attack' on the order of the Crimean military airport or the fuel/ammo dumps just across the border in Russia - ones that will go unanswered? I'm kind of filling my Depends, here. I have a mil-geeky interest in Russian liquid-fueled, MIRV-equipped super-heavy intercontinental ballistic missiles, but I don't care to have one land in my back yard for closer inspection. I'm not a microwave-safe, neither is the dog.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Dec 5 2022 23:39 utc | 130

Dmitri Orlov labeled the SMO as the Goldilocks War a few days ago. Not too slow, not too fast - just right. I agree.

Posted by: Paul Spencer | Dec 5 2022 23:42 utc | 131

If the attack at Engels-2 and Dyagilevo was an attack on Russia's nuclear capability and Russia can determine from the debris that this was done by NATO - been nice knowing you all...

Posted by: MG | Dec 5 2022 23:44 utc | 132

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Dec 5 2022 23:12 utc | 114

If you read the article again, I think it mentioned that the other side of the bridge is now being repaired for much more minor damage from the original attack.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 5 2022 23:45 utc | 133

@Petri 114

Igor Korsakov is a Crimean guy (sounds like a retired engineer) who regularly shows and explains the works and repair of the bridge (and other stuff from Crimea) - on youtube, rutube etc. The other lane will undergo replacement of likely two spans (already prepared in the nearby workshop) and than the damaged railway lane will also have some repairs - atm only one lane is in full use. The other one works, but with limited weight.

Posted by: BG13 | Dec 5 2022 23:52 utc | 134

PavewayIV @130--

Quite frankly, I didn't rank the attack as another provocation as those seem to occur daily. The mud doesn't appear to stick on Russia despite the amount being thrown as it continues on its methodical path. Nothing NATO does works. Might that be a lesson aimed at NATO?

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 5 2022 23:57 utc | 135

@harryash #73
Great idea Harry to put LSD in Britain´s drinking water.
Let me tell all you Russkies out there that Britons with a brain like and admire the Russians (as we once did the Germans) and are absolutely fed up with our government´s mad obsession with Russia like something out of the Victorian era. The illegal and suicidal sanctions were begun after Bill Browder´s failure to do the American psychopathic Mafia thing of ripping off people (the Russians this time) in the 1990s - all exposed by Alex Krainer´s excellent "Grand Deception" (Red Pill Press 2018). And Browder´s local Russian spivs (every country has them) were kicked out by Putin and went to - London! - with their loot.
So then NATZO broke the promise made at the Berlin Wall (1989) and the CIA violently seized admittedly corrupt Kiev (2014). And after their proxies (the Ukronazis) had spent eight years terrorizing their citizens, despite Minsk, the Russians said ´enough is enough´ (2022).
Trouble is, the British are almost unaware of all this. The government (with the collusion of the "Opposition") have gone almost as totalitarian as Nazi Germany, just without the violence. The media are wholly controlled and Goebbels would be proud of the BBC (Lord Reith must be turning in his grave). Not surprisingly, the majority of the population under such near-total control (as happened to the Germans), believe all this crap. The tide is slowly turning thanks to such stalwarts as ukcolumn but there´s a long way to go.
So perhaps, Harry, some LSD in Britain´s drinking water might not be such a bad idea. Stand well back though, because when the British go off, they go off with a bang!

Posted by: LevZasetsky | Dec 6 2022 0:00 utc | 136

Active US Military Service Members:

Significant Increase in Cancers, Myocarditis, and Pericarditis Resulting from Covid-19 Vaccine

https://www.globalresearch.ca/drastic-increase-non-infectious-diseases-military-explained-data-glitch-whistleblower/5791069

Looks like the Pharmaceutical-Industrial Complex is having its effects on the US military.

Posted by: Mummer | Dec 6 2022 0:02 utc | 137

PavewayIV | Dec 5 2022 23:39 utc | 130

Americanoid thinking is not a defense against history. I should add more but am too pissed. What we are is spelled out in the history books. I'm oz but five-eyes are the we.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 6 2022 0:03 utc | 138

Well I note that the bar is a bit rowdy, punchy today, holiday libations likely to blame, maybe those seasonal ugly sweaters, and being a fan of holiday libations (just toss some dark maple syrup in something bubbly in a pinch), I’d like to say that I support Bernd’s question @59.

How the heck do drones fly hundreds on kms across Russia and hit a military airbase, like a military target, and do so such that servicemen are killed? That seems really outrageous to me. Andrew Martyanov brought up the subject of internal sabotage in the Moskva sinking. Twitter analyst Mortymer brought up “Actors are rational, Each state priority is it’s national interest. Risks are great, the case must be even greater” in his lengthy pinned thread on the sabotage of the NordStream pipelines.

Uranium in USA involves the Navajo Nation and others, if we’re reflecting on who owns or has access to what resources.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Dec 6 2022 0:08 utc | 139

@ PavewayIV | Dec 5 2022 23:39 utc | 130

yes and no paveway... i am going to wait and see what russia says or does in response... sabotaging nordstream was big... russia has shown great restraint... hard to know the inside story, or stories here...

Posted by: james | Dec 6 2022 0:08 utc | 140

Perhaps the drone that crashed in Croatia was the partner of the attack on Russia but was GPS set up by MI6?

Regardless, it sure proved how battle ready the NATZO fools are.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 6 2022 0:10 utc | 141

>Homosexuality always has been – if u like it or not – been part of humanity. Get finally used to it. "Part of humanity" is something completely different than the major homosexual assault on traditional homosexual society which started in the 20th century and has been getting exponentially more and more degrading.
*(Source: In the first large-scale government survey measuring Americans' sexual orientation, the NHIS reported in July 2014 that 1.6% of Americans identify as gay or lesbian, and 0.7% identify as bisexual. 1.5% of women self-identify as lesbian and 0.9% consider themselves bisexual, while 1.8% of men consider themselves gay and 0.4% identify as bisexual.)

Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Dec 5 2022 23:06 utc | 112

Oh Jesus, I think I will throw up.

By the way, this is something I failed to mention in my comment @#127. The neo-liberals in the DP have convinced a portion of the "left" that gay rights and LGBQT movement is some kind of legitimate "left" issue now that the New Democrats (Bill Clinton) has jettisoned the working-class issues in favor of corporate campaign money.

So, fuck the railroad worker and a fair minimum wage, universal medical care. Now, left politics is all about promoting the RIGHT for men to dress up like women and women like men and go out in public and twerk it in the streets. And if you are offended by that, then you are the sexist offender. So, LGBQT and a good ole war against Russia is the NEW LEFT AGENDA.

Posted by: Ed | Dec 6 2022 0:11 utc | 142

Posted by: Bernd | Dec 5 2022 22:08 utc | 98

Please, Bernd: this discussion of homosexuality does not belong on the Ukraine open thread.

Posted by: Mexicana | Dec 6 2022 0:12 utc | 143

PavewayIV | Dec 5 2022 23:39 utc | 130
Appreciate your posts as always.
I think the @bar knows this is an order of magnitude escalation.
Me running around with my hair on fire, or posting impassioned panicky pearls here is not going to change anything.
Surely surely shirley Russia will have gamed an escalation in this Tier.
I never thought the Russians would SMO, ….. and everything they’ve done since Feb has “surprised” me.
By now, every day is a new opportunity for popcorn.
What will Russia do?
Maybe more of the same at this stage….. Ukraine is still adjusting to now electricity (water, sewerage and horror of horrors, no internet).
Just allowing disruption to 2022 living will do the job of depopulating Ukraine and burdening EUUK (who have their own self-inflicted energy emergency.

Maybe because my childhood experience of the Cold War was complacent knowledge that no matter how many Big Bang rocks the US and USSR chucked at each other, none could or would reach me….(and I was reassured by Adults I Trusted that nuclear winter was a northern hemisphere thing also).
I know that now Russia (and China) have a projectile with the name of my nearest city on it, but…. I still think we won’t be seeing a nuclear exchange just yet…
That’s why sabotage is so effective…. Russia has to prove who did it…..

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 0:12 utc | 144

response to LevZasetsky (136)

we like that Lev (your post).

I could never understand how the emergency powers that our jewish government
(and house of lords and monarchy) emerged from.....
and there doesnt seem to be a time limit.

Were now stuck with a colourful 4ft hindu running the country...
possibly now instead of israel .....india (Sassoon territory).
kween vicky must be munching worms in anger...

And now ofcourse we have king knt who murdered his wife.
n rumour has it that he has the same traits as lord mountbottom.
well...who can blame him...if you look at kntmilla.

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 0:15 utc | 145

Your comment regarding Greta Thunberg was so despicable that it makes every comment not worth bothering about. You are probably nothing more than a sexist, homophobic, anti science poster ..:?"

Posted by: watcher | Dec 5 2022 23:24 utc | 118

Greta Thuneberg is an autistic loser. A retard. And you are clearly confused about your gender. That’s fine. But you speak of science: Darwinism favors heterosexuals. Sucks to be you.

Posted by: Augustus Caesar | Dec 6 2022 0:25 utc | 146

Really, bomb Mi6? Are you even old enough to be up this late ?
Yes bomb mi6.why not?
Inciddntly english pirates do not have nukes -they are gift from america.
It is high time dngland be wiped of the face of earth.
So the First thing ( in fact the only thing) Russia must do is to kill as many English soldiers (and not only their hired mercenaries ), English spies masquerading as British and BBC journalists and mercenaries as possible as in shortest time. That will settle the problem of the WORLD being destabilized by the England pirate island and there will be no more plotting for wars by English pirates. But Russia does opposite! It let English mercenaries escape safely from donesk (Debeltsov enckave) in Feb 2015!

Posted by: Sam | Dec 6 2022 0:26 utc | 147

Anyway…. In other news:

The Sun-
"Captured in Mariupol and sentenced to death in the DPR, Briton Sean Pinner (who fought on the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine), later released as part of an exchange, returned to fight in Ukraine."

So. This guy is undercover UK military ? Or a nutter.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 0:30 utc | 148

Posted by: PavewayIV | Dec 5 2022 23:39 utc | 130
Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 5 2022 23:57 utc | 135

You make some interesting points. We know Ukraine doesn't do anything inside Russia without US/NATO help. Attacking a Russian air base is technically fair game for Ukraine since those bombers launch cruise missiles against Ukraine. But as you say, it also says the US is attacking Russia directly.

OTOH, Karl makes the good point that since Russia maintains escalation dominance, it may not be as important.]

I suppose if several drones had destroyed entirely several bombers, Russia would react more strongly. As an aside, I wonder why Russia wasn't aware of the 100+ drones of this type that Ukraine had - another guess of they should have destroyed all this stuff early in the war. OTOH, AFAIK this is the first time they've been used. Maybe Russia thought they were too old to be useful - until the US modernized them.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Dec 6 2022 0:32 utc | 149

Today's Crooke essay is like a grenade tossed into the EU Council Hall--a bomb, "Necessary Illusions – Even the narrative of the EU as a geo-strategic player has now burst". Here's just one major excerpt from the many possible:

Recall that the war at the outset was never seen by Washington as likely ‘being decisive’. The military aspect was viewed as an adjunct — a pressure multiplier — to the political crisis in Moscow that sanctions were expected to unleash. The early concept was that financial war represented the front line — and the military conflict, the secondary front of attack.

It was only with the unexpected shock of sanctions not achieving ‘shock and awe’ in Moscow that priority switched from the financial to the military arena. The reason the ‘military’ was not firstly seen as ‘front-line’ was because Russia clearly had the potential for escalatory dominance (a factor which is now so evident).

So, here we are: The West has been humiliated in the financial war, and unless something changes (ie. dramatic escalation by the US) – it will lose militarily too — with the distinct possibility that Ukraine at some point, simply implodes as a state.

The actual situation on the battlefield today is almost completely at odds with the narrative. Yet, so heavily has the EU invested in its Ukraine narrative that it just doubles-down, rather than draw back, to re-assess the true situation.

And so doing — by doubling-down narratively, (standing by Ukraine ‘for as long as it takes’) — the strategic content to the ‘Ukraine’ pivot rotates 180 degrees: Rump ‘Ukraine’ will not be ‘Russia’s Afghan quagmire’. Rather, its’ rump is morphing into Europe’s long-term financial and military ‘quagmire’.

‘As long as it takes’ gives the conflict an indeterminate horizon — yet leaves Russia in control of the timetable. And ‘as long as it takes’ implies ever more exposure to NATO blind spots. The rest-of-world intelligence services will have observed NATO’s air defence and military-industrial lacunae. The pivot will show who is the true ‘paper tiger’.

IMO, there's only one way for Europeans to escape the fate Crooke describes and it's the same I've prescribed since last February--abandon EU and NATO and become sovereign again.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 6 2022 0:35 utc | 150

The US tries to provoke Russia into doing something stupid, and Russia refuses to do so.

An RT article I recently read shows the perfect response from Russia. Talk about today's strikes on Ukraine and act like Russia already had this planned.

Russia now has all the diplomatic ammunition it needs in dealing with ROW when the weather cooperates and Russia moves west. Russia has its reason for war, and ROW knows it.

The US majorly blundered. And Russian leadership, smooth as silk, has been level headed and patient enough to set everything up just right.

My prediction is that the hammer will fall soon. And ROW will cheer wildly for Russia.

Posted by: Woke American | Dec 6 2022 0:39 utc | 151

I hava question...slightly off-topic but the airport appeared on this thread somewhere.

Spain....Torrejon airport...which is right next to Madrid airport but independent.

I was messing about on google earth months ago measuring airport runaways.

Now I cant remember the length i measured but it was extraordinary long by at least a km more than heathrow.

I thought wtf do they land here...

Never found out.

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 0:43 utc | 152

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 0:43 utc | 152

Spain....Torrejon airport...which is right next to Madrid airport but independent.

I was messing about on google earth months ago measuring airport runaways.

Now I cant remember the length i measured but it was extraordinary long by at least a km more than heathrow.

I thought wtf do they land here...

USAF used to use it as a B-52 base.

Posted by: mtw | Dec 6 2022 0:55 utc | 153

thanks mtw (153)...

u dont remember a story of the four nuclear bombs lost off the coast of spain below Alicante do you...

they never found them...I think.

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 1:00 utc | 154

margo | Dec 5 2022 20:47 utc | 66

No way...

If Dima says so then it's the truth ?

Dima is a man who is completely out of his lane and is making stuff up. The only difference between Dima and margo is that Dima is closer to the action. I would prefer to hear margo's opinion.

Cheers

Posted by: Klaatu | Dec 6 2022 1:07 utc | 155

Posted by: harryash | Dec 6 2022 1:00 utc | 154

3 bombs fell on land (2 had conventional explosions), 1 fell at sea and was also recovered after an extensive and expensive search. All 4 accounted for.

Posted by: mtw | Dec 6 2022 1:07 utc | 156

there's only one way for Europeans to escape the fate Crooke describes and it's abandon EU and NATO and become sovereign again.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 6 2022 0:35 utc | 150

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Professional writers bring a nice, pleasant diversion, while demonstrating an excellent command of language that provides a necessary dose of entertainment for more intelligent, discerning information consumers.

Yet, they rarely have (m)any unique insights, primarily because a successful career is based on access and consensus, not analysis nor any particular technical skills or actual experience.

So yes, the Euro governments will indeed eventually one day change their leadership and organizational structures and reassert their rights of self determination.

But, how do they arrive at that destiny? This is where the pundits fail - or dare not go. As for me, who was physically present during 3 wars in 2 years in mena, I can tell you quite matter of factly how it goes down.

In fact, it's so boring, mundane and routine that only afterwards when the photos are published and the accounts tallied, does anyone think anything remarkable happened other than a completely, entirely expected release of pent up fury and hatred.

Posted by: B9k9 | Dec 6 2022 1:10 utc | 157

"Like many, I assumed Russia would win relatively quickly in Ukraine (like 1-2 months).

At this time Russia has been fought to a stand still in Dombass.i hear about Ukraine losses and poor logistics and running out of ammo any day now. And I hope it's true, but reality is that this war is at a stalemate. "

Posted by: Cageyplatypus | Dec 5 2022 18:40 utc | 20

What NATO wanted was for Russia to sweep across the well prepared defenses head on and incur massive losses while attaining the victory and then suffer another Nazi insurgency like they financed in the decades after WW2.

Russia chose a different game. They're de-nazifying the country with artillery while minimizing their own casualties. Victory over the enemy militarily rather than acquisition of ground has been the goal to date. Acquisition of ground will have its time, and every indication that will be this winter. The choice has been to cut off the snake's fangs before stepping on it.

Posted by: First Time Poster | Dec 6 2022 1:14 utc | 158

@RepThomasMassie
Regrettably, some of my congressional colleagues are more concerned about tracking that $600 Venmo payment you made than tracking $60,000,000,000 of your money they sent to Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1599914578485252096

Majarjorie Taylor Greene:
It’s time to end the vaccine mandates.
Our military recruitment is down 25% **and military members were thrown out for refusing a vaccine they don’t need for military readiness.
Every Republican should demand an end to vaccine mandates.
https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1599755014741708800
[** In poor economic conditions military recruitment is up…. But. Do the chumps think war is too close to be a “safe” option?]

What are all the nubile females in the Ukrainian military doing?
Tictok dances [gives me medical teams during the “pandemic” vibes. You got time to choreograph a tictok dance = you ain’t busy]
https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1599644738189070337

Dog of War. [I’m a sucker for a pupper pic]
https://t.me/warhistoryalconafter/73307

(Channel also has vid of the shoot down of the Russian helicopter 2
days ago)

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 1:19 utc | 159

Can anyone please tell me why this wasn't done several months ago.

Posted by: Anton Gorbatow | Dec 5 2022 20:48 utc | 68

====================

The US leads the West.
The US is led by elites currently on board with the Green New Deal type view. For example, working to phase out combustion engines ASAP, no more diesel etc.
Doing this requires running the current system into the ground.
The people might get mad if they know their governments are ruining their lives and futures.
Therefore a conflict is the best cover.
Oceana is fighting Eurasia and so on.
A new world wide techno fascist elite is forming, basically new members joining the BIS-run credit cartels.
OR: the elites are bifurcating so that the rising Eurasian elites can finally get out from under the domination of the old Western elites.
Either way, from both blocs we keep hearing stories about entirely new digital money and ID systems that will be much better than the current corrupt system but never hear any details about how exactly.
Either way (meaning whether this is managed or a genuine two-side conflict), this conflict will go on until the current system is run into the ground and the new systems are introduced. Ukraine is almost irrelevant except as a battlefield space to generate the needed narratives for all sides. Hits on Russians give Ukraine and the West the victory/progress narratives they need. Hits on Ukraine give Eurasians the narratives they need.

So the conflict will keep being weird because neither side is winning or losing outright, at least not yet. Neither side is actually trying to win. But both sides have to supply narratives to their people and the world such that the ongoing dysfunction in their polities is blamed on the conflict.

The Chinese are in heavy rolling lock-downs with hugely reduced exports and such and a huge real estate surplus. The Americans are about to face a Depression probably also Europe. The war in Ukraine must continue to explain that. When it is over, so will be Ukraine. Poland will get the West. Russia will get the rest.

The only country that is doing just fine thank you in all this is Russia which seems poised to enter a historic growth phase given their huge territory and relatively small, intelligent and motivated population. (Though perhaps also the Arab energy nations are doing well too?) But since they have the pressure of mounting soldiers in the conflict, maybe that's the price they are paying in blood and treasure.

Obviously none of this can be proven and all might be wrong. But this sort of view makes sense, to a certain degree, of why the whole SMO business often feels so baffling. It's not about whether it's too slow or too fast etc. It's that Ukraine obviously has no way of winning on the ground, and Russia seems unwilling to insist on traditional military victory, ostensibly because Ukrainians are their long-lost brothers etc. but....

Posted by: Scorpion | Dec 6 2022 1:31 utc | 160

ReinhardVonSiegfried | Dec 5 2022 22:47 utc | 107

Dear me looks dreadful for the RF. :-)

RF must destroy Ukr. Thats their only choice to avoid early catastrophe. There is nothing the Empire can do to stop them if thats what they want to do, troll person.

This does not mean slaughtering the Ukrainians. Russia has shown it respects the lives of civilians and has shown it makes every effort to get them out of harms way. This does mean they destroy everything.

The Allies made the mistake of leaving Germany untouched after the first great war. The Germans were left with the impression they did not lose and this was played upon by those brown shirted people to great effect. The lesson was learnt and through 1944 to 1945 Germany was totally destroyed. It worked a treat and Germany remains an occupied docile vassal state to this day.

Its up to the Kremlin. If they dont destroy UKr completely they will be using their Moscow AD very soon.

Poland will be to the 21st century what Germany was to 20th century. Big problems there with the influx of a misanthropic death cult. Same as the old one but with a new scapegoat.

BTW you attempt at thread diversion is duly noted as is your sock puppet. It still amazes me that people still fall for a trick that's been around since the beginnings of usenet

But then people still send money to random Nigerians.

Posted by: Klaatu | Dec 6 2022 1:36 utc | 161

Russian drone managed to capture a scene where Ukrainians executed possibly 3 of their own. According to some analysis, the regular UAF has morphed into nazi mentality, the pravi sektor and Azov's are no longer needed to enforce obeying and non-withdrawal from positions. There is no way this is not already widespread operating procedures in UAF.

This stuff just should make it more obvious on the scale of Zelly's propaganda and increase the magnitude between reality and claimed casualty figures.

https://t.me/CyberspecNews/13868

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 6 2022 1:37 utc | 162

If you can't take a hit don't get into the ring. Russia is at war with Ukraine, obviously Ukraine will want to strike at Russia and will find ways to do so. Aside from a minor PR victory this attack does nothing to change the strategic situation aside perhaps from increasing Russian resolve.

Posted by: Organic | Dec 6 2022 1:38 utc | 163

Posted by: watcher | Dec 5 2022 22:47 utc | 106

Bonobos may be your relatives not mines.

Best regards.

Posted by: Roberto | Dec 6 2022 1:38 utc | 164

unimperator | Dec 6 2022 1:37 utc | 162

Maybe.

It does smell like RF propaganda to my nose.

Posted by: Klaatu | Dec 6 2022 1:40 utc | 165

There will be no winter offensive by the Russians. The mobilization is only to keep Russia in the field.

Ukraine however will try something they have well been prepared to fight in winter, geneal winter is Ukrainian this time. Ukraines backers are impatient. They've got Putin cornered but they need to knock out his army and then pit the Russian federations people against each other. But he won't come out with his army and he can keep it supplied indefinitely. Ukrainians will be commanded to charge in, even if Ukraine state ceases to exist and its cities all abandoned. They made a deal with the devil to defeat Russia and they'll get what they paid for.

In this case a stalemate serves Russia better, as the west is all antsy and unsure how far to go, and where they're going.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Dec 6 2022 1:41 utc | 166

Ukies executing their own "cowards" ought be quantified. It may be an early sign of this Ukie army hitting a mutiny. After the failure of the Nivelle Offensive, 1917 in the wake of the bloody cost of defending Verdun, 1916 the French army mutinied and refused to go forward.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1917_French_Army_mutinies

"The French government suppressed news of the mutinies to avoid alerting the Germans or harming morale on the home front. The extent and the intensity of the mutinies were disclosed for the first time in 1967 by Guy Pedroncini, in Les Mutineries de 1917. His project had been made possible by the opening of most of the military archives, fifty years after the events, a delay that was in conformity with French War Ministry procedure. There were still undisclosed archives on the mutinies in the 21st century, which were believed to contain documents mostly of a political nature; they were not to be opened to researchers until 100 years after the mutinies, in 2017..." Basically the French troops refused to fight unti lthe Americans were fully prepped for advances in 1918.

Posted by: Wokechoke | Dec 6 2022 1:47 utc | 167

Posted by: Wokechoke | Dec 6 2022 1:47 utc | 167

You reminded me of Paths of Glory which I recently watched again. A Kubrik film, so there's always a lot to appreciate with repeated viewings.

A French General wants to execute some of his men for failing to take "The Ant Hill". He didn't count on their commander, played by Kirk Douglas, being willing to go all in to defend them. Recommended!

Posted by: Babel-17 | Dec 6 2022 1:52 utc | 168

unimperator | Dec 6 2022 1:37 utc | 162

Agreed.

Russia is up against the biggest, best trained, best equipped army in Europe. Ukr has had more money spent on it than the RF has spent by several orders of magnitude. That's why the RF is sustaining casualties at the rate the Empire suffered in Vietnam.

The problem for the Empire is that it is crumbling. The story has been told before in every civilization that existed and is now gone. Will it strike out in desperate anger ?

The Key is in the USA. Next year is crucial.

Posted by: Klaatu | Dec 6 2022 1:54 utc | 169

“……smells like RF propaganda to my nose.”
Posted by: Klaatu | Dec 6 2022 1:40 utc | 165
1/ Drone footage exists…
2/Ukrainian soldiers are walked from open field to grove of trees.
3/ 3 kneel
4/ They are shot in the back.
5/ They slump
I’m as skeptical as any here… …how is this “Russian propaganda”.
In my experience staged psyops have better production values … this looks like drone footage capturing exactly what it wasn’t meant to.

If only a kamikaze drone had been nearby to deliver some kinetic karma

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 2:11 utc | 170

This is the biggest provocation since the Crimean Bridge and the Ukrainians (and evil backers) are milking it for everything it's worth. This isn't just another step closer to WWIII, but a pretty damn vigorous leap.

At the most the USA wants a Pearl Harbor to get the American people flocking to recruitment centers and tying yellow ribbons all around as they fill up troop ships for Poland, at the very least they need to strengthen support in the USA and EU for the blank check for funds and weapons despite the blowback starting to press down heavy on the west. The longer the war goes the weaker their propaganda gets, truth must reveal and they know that, they need either a Pearl Harbor for NATO direct involvement or a Pearl Harbor propaganda Captagon rush.

Pentagon can't lose with a direct RF reprisal against some NATO or USA object, it gives them escalation options the two above plus also establishing a baseline support for a nuclear strike, which you think they would like behind them before launching nukes in the name of the American people.

A Russian reprisal is a win all around the Pentagon.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Dec 6 2022 2:13 utc | 171

Today Gilbert Doctorov, living in Brussels, wrote on his blog a for me new shocking gruesome brutality of Ukrainian Military Forces to Russian POW: Maiming, Castrating or other wise disabling these Russian soldiers savagely. See hereunder.


"The (first) item comes from a 20-minute chat with a fellow who has been one of my best sources of information on the war thanks to his personal relations with siloviki, meaning in this case military intelligence officers, that go back to his college days and to his initial service as an administrator in the penitentiary system.


As many readers are aware, my pied à terre is a one bedroom apartment in the outlying Petersburg borough of Pushkin, which in pre-Revolutionary times was known as Tsarskoye Selo, literally, the tsar’s hamlet. Just 200 meters from our apartment complex is the Catherine the Great summer palace and park, which is a major attraction for both domestic and foreign tourists.


This area today is also home to an important military school which has students from Africa and other developing world regions enrolled alongside native Russians. There is a training base for helicopter pilots nearby. And there is a military hospital of national importance. It is from the latter that today’s news comes.


My acquaintance tells me that the hospital is now filled with wounded Russian soldiers from the Ukraine campaign, and in particular with maimed POWs who were released by the Ukrainian authorities in prisoner exchanges. The hospitalized include a good many traumatized soldiers who were savagely castrated or otherwise disabled by their Ukrainian captors.

If publicized, these cases would be far more inflammatory in broad Russian society than the horrendous video which circulated in social media a week ago showing the brutal execution of a dozen disarmed Russian POWs by jubilant Ukrainian soldiers. Clearly, the Kremlin is holding this back, lest detailed knowledge of the Ukrainian brutality unleash violent emotions in the Russian public.


In these circumstances, I call attention to the very difficult balancing act required of the Russian President. The man has nerves of steel. He is surely under great pressure from the patriotic hard-liners in the Kremlin who are au courant about the castrations and other evidence of Ukrainian depravity. One nod from Vladimir Vladimirovich and Kiev would be leveled to the ground in a matter of hours. It is tragic that Washington and Brussels confuse this restraint with incompetence, fear and other nonsense."

Posted by: Ton | Dec 6 2022 2:15 utc | 172

#2

The final solution for Ukraine is to return the properties to their historical owners and call it a day. They had their chance. They blew it.

In the meantime, I suggest all temporarily move to Russia, especially if you want to survive, until the place is cleaned up and ready for you to move back, then apply for citizenship where it was your home was at.

Posted by: Swamprat | Dec 6 2022 2:16 utc | 173

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 5 2022 21:10 utc | 76

Be patient with us teacher! We are trying to to put together a complicated jigsaw with less knowledge and time than you.

The US may have reduced its uranium enrichment facilities and relies more on importing the final processed product, but I previously read that (some?) Ukranian nuclear power plants had moved to using US not Russian fuel rods. I also recall that this seemed to cause problems, but that is a side-issue. How do we square these two facts?

Posted by: Pete Jones | Dec 6 2022 2:22 utc | 174

@bar - thank for the comments. I probably should have emphasized the strategic nuclear aspect a bit more.

Still waiting for more detail from my web of Russian spies, but either Engels-2 or Ryazan (or both) are strategic nuclear bases. Nuclear-capable bombers are stationed there and presumably some Russian nuclear gravity bombs are bunkered there. THAT's what's different. I don't expect confirmation or a statement by the Russian MoD because that's not something they advertise. Detail on exactly who/what is stationed at those bases and their *nuclear* capability is sketchy at best. The US and NATO commanders obviously know, but we're left to guess. I'll err on the side of caution and assume the few claims of 'nuke bases' could be true because of their depth inside Russia and proximity to Moscow.

Compare that drone attack with a hypothetical one on a U.S. base. Say, Barksdale AFB in Louisiana. There's 40-some odd 2nd Bomb Wing B-52s stationed there permanently. There are dozens of B61 nuclear bombs in hardened bunkers, along with dozens of nuclear-tipped air-launched cruise missiles. Now imagine a similar large drone 'attack' that only managed to damage an old KC-135 tanker. Hey - no nuclear stuff damaged, so we're good, right?

Holy hell, the U.S. would go ballistic (literally). Attacking an insignificant fighter aircraft base somewhere behind Russia's borders is serious enough. But attacking one of the bases housing strategic nuclear aircraft and (presumably) some quantity of nuclear weapons? This sends a clear message to Russia: the US and NATO evil pals are directly targeting Russia's strategic nuclear assets (using our Ukraine proxy, of course), but not hitting anything nuclear. Hardly comforting to the Russian commanders. There's little reason to think 'the Ukrainians' won't repeat those attacks at *other* Russian strategic nuclear bases, whether or not these were.

The Russians are examining debris from the Tu-141s they managed to shoot down. What if they're convinced that those old soviet jet-powered drones were recently remanufactured in Poland using American guidance systems? I don't even want to think about that possibility, but it doesn't matter. If *anyone* is threatening Russian strategic nuclear assets anywhere, then we got a really big problem.

Seems like a whole new dimension of hellish insanity to me. My 'nuclear clock' is already five minutes PAST midnight. I keep looking outside for a sky filled with SATAN II warheads arcing down to North Dakota. Those poor beet farmers. My dog is upset, too. I can tell.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Dec 6 2022 2:24 utc | 175

Melaleuca @ 170

Very likely it's real. WW1 was a meat grinder war, this is a meat grinder war, not everyone is disposed to walk into a meat grinder, in WW1 there was a damn whole lot of officers shooting troops that were reluctant (too intelligent) to climb out of the trench to certain death or maiming. Kubrick made a movie about it, Paths Of Glory.

The USA built up and piled on Nazi forces not as shock troops against the Russians but specifically as punishers as they knew a war between kin would have reluctance, that's what Oliver Stone's Ukraine On Fire was about.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Dec 6 2022 2:25 utc | 176

"Start to accept those facts – and then some doors might open up for you "in the collective west”. Remember Röhm btw? Homosexuality always has been – if u like it or not – been part of humanity. Get finally used to it." So has murder, rape, extortion, petty theft, etc. So what? There's no reason, no good reason at least, to "get used" to any of these "parts of humanity." Oh, and I do not like "it", so just get used to it.

Posted by: Jack Gordon | Dec 6 2022 2:26 utc | 177

A major reality check and wake-up call: https://mronline.org/2022/12/03/russia-has-lost-the-war/

Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Dec 5 2022 22:47 utc | 107

Did you even bother to finish reading the article you have linked? I‘m afraid it states the opposite of what you are trying to convey…

“Russia has lost the war” - So says Western media… And if all we do is listen to what is published in the West and listen to what the various “strategists” say on all the talk-shows, we would come to the following conclusions:

[…]

Such is the picture painted by the European and Anglo-American mass media, although it must be acknowledged that the latter are making an effort to provide other, more objective analyses in view of the latest developments in the conflict. The intellectual laziness of many information professionals, who limit themselves to reproducing the propaganda reports of Zelensky’s government, if not submitting to the doxa dictated by the media management bodies, as well as the censorship imposed by the authorities and pressure groups, prevent a more impartial knowledge of the real situation of the conflict.

To begin with, Russia cannot lose this war, nor can it give up the territories that since the referendums have been incorporated into the Russian Federation. First of all, it is a question of survival in the face of the Anglo-American world’s determination to put an end to the existence of a Russia that opposes its hegemonic domination and that, on the contrary, is committed to a multipolar world where a balance of forces coexists. Secondly, the Russian society, and even more so the recently annexed populations, and in particular the Donbass regions which have suffered a war for eight years, would never accept to stop being part of Russia.

As for the situation on the ground, if we look at the development of events from the information provided by objective military specialists and analysts, some even coming from armies committed to Ukrainian interests, since the appointment of General Surovikin as Commander-in-Chief of the Armies in the Ukrainian campaign, things have changed quite a lot.

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We will probably soon witness a change in the situation, both on the ground and politically, although the media and talk show hosts with careers in the offices of Brussels or NATO headquarters tell us that the Ukrainian army is going to win this war and that they will force Russia to return the annexed territories. American officials have already suggested to Zelensky that he should reconsider negotiating with Russia, and we know that he who pays the piper calls the tune, and American governments have never been known for their unswerving loyalty to the leader of the day. Rather, they have been dedicated to defending their own interests.


Posted by: Toxique negresse | Dec 6 2022 2:35 utc | 178

@175 paveway1V, thank you for bringing attention to this...so much happens every day it begins to blur, & as karlof1 points out russia does seem to have thought of much, if not everything. larch @ martynov has expressed his concerns which are similar to yours, without the darkness of the nuclear intonations. we have all been expecting this to escalate, esp. with the arrival of fighter jets some days ago. thank you for posting this & alerting us. we can observe & wait. trying all the while to connect the dots, or as one poster (apologies i've forgotten who) said fitting a jigsaw sans the cover picture.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Dec 6 2022 2:40 utc | 179

The US may have reduced its uranium enrichment facilities and relies more on importing the final processed product, but I previously read that (some?) Ukranian nuclear power plants had moved to using US not Russian fuel rods. I also recall that this seemed to cause problems, but that is a side-issue. How do we square these two facts?

Posted by: Pete Jones | Dec 6 2022 2:22 utc | 174

Westinghouse manufactures the rods, but they don't mine the uranium. Needless to say, the current Ukraine government does not want to buy from Russia, the rods or the uranium; but westinghouse rods made with Russian uranium seems to be OK.

Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 6 2022 2:42 utc | 180

800 PIECES OF EQUIPMENT FROM U.S. 1ST INFANTRY DIVISION REPORTEDLY ARRIVES IN POLAND
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3TF1AU23GdRB/
>……”this is all old shit too..stiill has the "desert storm" paint job”
>…” Not 800 armored vehicles, I think 200 humvees in this shipment, and they are not made for this snowy terrain.
________
THIS. Is what real psyop material looks like: >
HUGE FAIL OF AFU PROPAGANDA: GIVES OUT SAME STAR OF DAVID "GOODIE BAG" TO 2 PEOPLE
A man is given a goodie bag. Muchus thankios.
A woman appears: Hey. Where’s mine.
Next. The man no longer has a goodie bag.
But. The woman has also completely changed her outfit.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/S9aIsRbcl1Bg/

This Brit gave an hour long interview on his escapades in the International Legion (which I linked twice).
Here’s the few minutes where he talks about truckloads of weapons going missing from a convoy.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/At6qt7a0dRVf/

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 2:44 utc | 181

@ Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 6 2022 0:35 utc | 150 (Crooke & Europe)
@ Posted by: Scorpion | Dec 6 2022 1:31 utc | 160

Surely those who examine the cycles of history can easily observe that we are at the "creative destruction" stage that marks the end of one cycle and the beginning of another.

True, Russia's relative self-sufficiency gives them an advantage for the next cycle. However, to assert that Europe (or the US) is "done" is speculative. There will be a necessary restructuring and changing of the guard, sure, but a new generation of doers will arrive when the time is right. (Strauss & Howe ™)

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 6 2022 2:45 utc | 182

Toxique negresse | Dec 6 2022 2:35 utc | 178
@ReinhardVonSiegfried
In this season of World Cup …. There’s nothing more “schadenfreude” than an own goal. ….
(And thanks for checking the link… I wouldn’t couldn’t be bothered… )

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 2:51 utc | 183

@ PavewayIV | Dec 6 2022 2:24 utc | 175

thanks for the additional insights here.. i see your concern... i imagine russia has a plan in response if this is so.. scary stuff if so..

Posted by: james | Dec 6 2022 2:56 utc | 184

upstater #97

That Russia has continued to make advanced guided missiles like the Kh-101 suggests that it has found ways to acquire semiconductors and other matériel despite the sanctions or that it had significant stockpiles of the components before the war began, one of the researchers said.

The military has a habit of stockpiling strategic components. Consider bullets and mortar shells. The same applies to chips.

Regardless of that hobbyists can purchase online from China assembled boards of GPS guidance devices to be used in their DIY drone and model airplanes for peanuts. All the military needs is to couple the outputs to their internal servomotors or solenoid systems and presto all is good. These devices are old chip technology and some fancy new 7mm chip fabrication is entirely unnecessary. You could even get fancy and install a purpose built arduino if you wanted to be flash (and superfluous).

Drones are rocket science, yes. Mundane rocket science just one step up from where we were a couple of decades ago but leap years ahead in available, assembled, off the shelf circuit boards. Take a look at aliexpress and search for GPS controller or some such.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 6 2022 3:12 utc | 185

uncle tungsten | Dec 6 2022 3:12 utc | 185.
Look. I was reliably repeatedly informed by the *corporate* media [thanks VintageR].
Washing machines. Lots n lots of stolen washing machines.
That’s where Russia sources it’s chips.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 3:23 utc | 186

FOUND IT.
That vid of Russian winter tanks.
Several uploads of the vid at Bitchute:

https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=russian%20winter%20tanks&kind=video

Search… Russian winter tanks….

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 3:27 utc | 187

Melaleuca #186

Washing machines. Lots n lots of stolen washing machines.
That’s where Russia sources it’s chips.

In a past life I used to teach Russian scientists how to use a morticing chisel to quickly remove those chips. Made a motza and then they got me back to teach how to solder with a kerosene blow torch.

I love the yacht ;)

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 6 2022 3:28 utc | 188

However, to assert that Europe (or the US) is "done" is speculative. There will be a necessary restructuring and changing of the guard, sure, but a new generation of doers will arrive when the time is right. (Strauss & Howe ™)

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 6 2022 2:45 utc | 182

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1. Yes, restructuring. Indeed, I think we are in the midst of creative restructuring, albeit one that is being top-down delivered and thus probably not all that good - morally or functionally.

2. Cycles: all entities have some sort of beginning, middle and ending phases. All. In this regard it seems to me that Russia has been through a very hard 20th century that both ended their monarchy and then ended a communist (hostile) takeover and they are now continuing as a new updated version of traditional Russia. So they are reconnecting with their roots. Doctorow's description today of being in the cheap seats of the St. Petersburg opera surrounded by traditionally dressed-up fellow patrons (vs. the now dressed-down fashion in self-destructing Europe) I found telling - as well as encouraging. However, as well as rediscovering their ground, they are now in a creative new growth phase, no longer destroying the old but moving forward into a new future together, a new geopolitical Middle Kingdom.

3. New generation of doers: the West's problem in terms of enjoying a renewal after destruction is: are they able to reconnect with their roots, their core nature and character? Without doing so how can they move forward? Only ideologues have the arrogance to assume they can craft an entirely new reality (based on new-fangled concepts they favor) that will be better than any before; but first they have to destroy everything to have this miraculous fresh start. Such initiatives create the bloody revolutions seen in France, Russia, China and so on. And such revolutions belong to the destruction phase. You are talking about 'a new generation of doers.' This is in the new birth and growth phase (which I suggest Russia is now entering, about 30 years behind China).

To be in a new birth and growth phase your sense of fundamental nature and character must be strong even if where you are headed is (enticingly) as yet unknown. Russians are doing this by reconnecting with their roots as all people with centuries under their belt should do. The West should do that too.

But here's the rub: is the West in any position to do so? If not, then the doers you are looking for will have to wait their turn until the birth and growth phase begins.

The West just enjoyed a climactic growth phase culminating with virtual hegemony after 1945 and climaxing probably around the time the Soviet Union collapsed. Then it feels like with the 9/11 Twin Tower collapse followed by the blatantly unjust Iraq War that the decline was already, and obviously so, underway.

But a twist: at the same time as this climax and possible early descent, there has clearly also been a takeover of sorts, as parasitic elements have risen to more blatant control of previously independent nation states now part of some ghastly fungal para-national under and overgrowth. Neocons, banksters, whatever. They seem to be involved in pushing the 'globalist' Green New Deal, Reset, wokeness and so forth along with generally tearing nations apart on the cultural fronts. For them this is a growth phase as they finally seem to be able to control nations without much resistance to their power. But in providing the conditions for their rise they have in fact destroyed the basis of their own power which is western nation states civilization which they are now causing to crumble before our eyes. By the time they have beaten us all down to receive their new Reset there will be nothing left to work with. I guess evil can never make, it can only destroy.

So, no, I don't see the doers arriving yet. The parasites have to be dislodged somehow before a reconnection with roots can take place. But there is another twist: the West is not Russia even though Russia now embodies the best of what was the West.

Countries with their own language and people still like France and Germany can do so if they are willing to become sovereign again. Countries with only 50% of the population being the main indigenous culture and thus 50% being from different cultures and religions etc., what is their essential character, what are their roots? Can they fashion a collective identity and culture with which to go forward into a new future together? Can such a thing be done in European polities without underlying Christianity binding them together given it seems to have been lost? This is no small issue.

No, I think it's going to be a long winter, probably for at least a generation or two, during things may well get very, very hard and much more confusing and unsafe. The word 'security' will probably have less and less to do with the MIC and more to do with protecting oneself and one's loved ones at homes - if we are still allowed to own them!

Posted by: Scorpion | Dec 6 2022 3:42 utc | 189

FOUND IT. That vid of Russian winter tanks. Several uploads of the vid at Bitchute:

https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=russian%20winter%20tanks&kind=video

Search… Russian winter tanks….

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 3:27 utc | 187

The point is that those are just edited re-uploads of the original video from last February...

https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/syjegt/russian_tanks_heading_towards_donetsk/

Not suggesting there are not a fresh batch on the way, just saying the video does not show it.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 6 2022 3:49 utc | 190

This just in, from our Hippy Dippy Weatherman in the field, the Ukrainian field.

Current temp in Krackov -9 C
Current temp in Donestk -8 C

Ain't no day time winter sun gonna thaw that. Not enough hours of Sun light as we close in on the Solstice.

That's cold enough to freeze the nuts off a bridge. -28 C here atm, bit of a nip in the air, I'll call it brisk.
I'm thinking hypothermia might start becoming an issue on both sides of the LOC never mind any civies trapped with no power or heat.

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Dec 6 2022 3:59 utc | 191

@ PavewayIV | Dec 6 2022 2:24 utc | 175

You are correct that this turns the ratchet up several notches.

Russia will know everything about these "drones", who approved, provided guidance etc. We won't be told. Its a pinprick, a sign of desperation. I doubt this event of itself will trigger Russia.

BUT its escalating, and at some point the bear will roar. IMHO this cannot end until the US feels real pain. There is an inevitability about this.

Posted by: cdvision | Dec 6 2022 4:13 utc | 192

sean the leprechaun | Dec 6 2022 3:59 utc | 191
28c+ here ATM . Gentle wafting breeze. Barely perceptible bursts of the neighbour’s jasmine…I call it just about perfect.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 4:15 utc | 193

Julian Assange should be with his family this Christmas. #FreeAssangeNOW
https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1599770378699935744

😡Jackson Hinkle’s twitter account has been suspended….

Military Advisor:
“Fragments of the Ukrainian S-300 air defense system missile fell in #Moldova in the Briceni region.”
>…”5V55 anti-aircraft missile from the S-300 air defense system.”
https://twitter.com/miladvisor/status/1599791415675887616

Well. WTF?
From IntelliTimes
https://twitter.com/IntelliTimes/status/1599793189082533888
‎מתיעוד לוויני של בסיס Engeles-2 של חיל האוויר הרוסי, לא ניתן לראות איזשהוא נזק למתקן או מטוס או רחבה כתוצאה מתקיפה או הפצצה ובטח לא של מפציצים מדגם Tu-95. כן ניתן לזהות תנועה ערה במיקומי ופעילות מטוסי הקרב.
Translated from Hebrew :
From the satellite documentation of the Engeles-2 base of the Russian Air Force, it is not possible to see any damage to the facility or aircraft or the area as a result of an attack or bombing and certainly not by Tu-95 bombers. Active movement can also be detected in the locations and activity of the fighter planes.

Also:

https://twitter.com/wammezz/status/1599807952088547328
>…”Today's Sentinel-2 imagery of Engels airbase in #Russia, allegedly struck by Ukrainian #drones, does not show clear damage in false-colour bands that would highlight burned spots using near-infrared, but high-res imagery is needed to confirm”
+
>…”Satellite imagery from @planet both Skysat and PlanetScope from today, December 5, 2022 also doesn't show clear damage to the bomber on the tarmac at Engels airbase….
>…”As some pointed out, the damaged bombers could have been moved out post strike and a rapid clean-up of the tarmac but that would not be Russian MO.
The imagery so far doesn't show burn marks and was taken 07.00 and 07:43 UTC. That would mean rapid response by RU.”


Aaaand. There’s this.>>>>>
Evidently. Under the NewSTART treaty. Russia is obliged to report the damage (if any?) to the US….
I wonder…. Given Russia just now extended a middle digit to U$ re negotiations on #New START …… could there be a *connection* ?
Coincidence or #nocoincidence?
https://fissilematerials.org/library/New_START_Protocol.pdf

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 4:16 utc | 194

On drones and guidance systems:- dime a dozen, cheaper if you buy a thousand.

search term: "Matek Systems AP_PERIPH GNSS M10-L4-3100 GPS Compass Module for RC Multirotor FPV Racing Drone Long Range" This one is complete Matek Systems controller. $113 for almost all in one GNSS navigator.

Whatever you read in the msm id utter drongo babble.

Can deliver a thousand tomorrow..... from FeiYing RC Store.

And there are many more options. This is kid stuff making RC models and adaptable to whatever you make.

You can even get them to chat to each other to hold relative position and do this: https://youtu.be/5IADN50pJW4

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 6 2022 4:35 utc | 195

@ PavewayIV | Dec 5 2022 23:39 utc | 130

Excellent points, Paveway. My sense is that Russia will not do anything which could be constructed as further escalation, but will continue the economic war ("it's economy stupid") - it may take a long time, but the combined West is falling apart, the Biden machinations in Ukraine coming to fore; the strike of railroaders and their 'cancelling' by the USG is one more sign. People will see that there are billions for war and no 2 days of sick leave...This must click in the heads; And the discord among the "allies" with and inside EU is another problem. So, Russia will not sacrifice more their people than absolutely necessary. I may be wrong, but that is my hope.

Posted by: fanto | Dec 6 2022 4:49 utc | 197

Just a thought, perhaps the 'covert' plausibly-deniable drone strike, utilizing proxy cutout Ukraine, on the RF strategic bomber base may be a not so subtle warning to, TWO now openly allied parties, re significant events concerning RF & Chinas Strategic Bombers/Joint Fighter patrols, 5 days ago ?

Japanese, (Sth) Korean Fighters Scrambled in Response to Joint Russia-China Bomber Patrol USNI News

A Russian Tupolev Tu-95 Bear off Japan in May. Japanese MoD Photo

Four Russian Tu-95MS bombers and two Chinese H-6 bombers conducted a joint patrol over the Sea of Japan Wednesday, prompting fighter scrambles by Korea and Japan in response.

...

& more in depth ... though recommend squinting slightly & holding ones nose closed ...

Russian, Chinese Bombers Land At Each Other’s Airfields After Joint Patrols TheDrive/TheWarzone

The latest long-range bomber drills saw Japanese and South Korean fighters scramble to intercept Tu-95MS and H-6K missile-carriers.

Long-range bombers from Russia and China have conducted “joint patrols” over the Sea of Japan and the East China Sea, with South Korean and Japanese fighter jets being scrambled to intercept them. While combined bomber missions of this kind are by no means unprecedented, today’s exercises included Russian and Chinese aircraft landing on each other’s airfields, for the first time in this type of exercise, in a sign of expanding cooperation.

At least some of the Russian aircraft involved landed at an undisclosed Chinese airbase, reportedly in Zhejiang Province, as evidenced by multiple videos showing Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS) Tu-95MS Bear-Hs over China. Clearly, the distinctive drone of the bomber’s huge turboprops captured the attention of many observers.

It’s unconfirmed whether the Russian aircraft were refueled at the Chinese base, but that seems likely, and they later returned to their home stations. Chinese aircraft reciprocated, making visits to an airfield in Russia. Regardless, this may well have been the first time ever that Tu-95 bombers have visited China, although Chinese bombers have previously deployed to Russia for exercises in that country.

Meanwhile, an official video from the Russian Ministry of Defense shows the Tu-95MS bombers departing Ukrainka Air Base, in the Amur Oblast of Russia’s Far East, although it’s unclear if this is the same airfield that the PLAAF bombers visited.

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Posted by: Outraged | Dec 6 2022 4:53 utc | 198

@sean 191

Hypothermia closely followed by hyperthermia.

Posted by: Saul Goode | Dec 6 2022 4:55 utc | 199

Schrödinger's Missile. It can both strike a Russian airbase, and simultaneously not exist …. Depending on your twit/telegram of choice>>>>…

“Американская компания Maxar выложила более качественные спутниковые изображения авиабазы Энгельс в Саратовской области, которая сегодня утром подверглась атаке со стороны БПЛА.
Каких-либо разрушений даже на снимках высокого разрешения не обнаружено.
…”The American company Maxar posted better satellite images of the Engels airbase in the Saratov region, which this morning was attacked by a UAV.
No damage was detected even in high-resolution images.”
https://t.me/milinfolive/94059

Posted by: Melaleuca | Dec 6 2022 4:57 utc | 200

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