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Giyane #83

Our eyes are wide open to what is happening in Ukraine: NUCLEAR BRINKMANSHIP TO OBTAIN THE REMAINING EX- SOVIET HYDRO- CARBONS.

Thank you and I might add:- I suspect they desperately desire the agricultural land, exquisitely irrigated by water systems constructed over the last century, powered by energy systems constructed over the last century. Now who did that construction and invested in all that infrastructure both physical and educational for Ukrains?
Of course, it was the USSR.
The agricultural land sale of the century is to be implemented by Zelensky and the agriculture oligarchs want it all in their thieving, private little hands.
The west is stealing the commons – again.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 19 2022 22:34 utc | 101

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Dec 19 2022 14:36 utc | 93
my take is the US fucked up, which it does on a regular basis, and then has been trying to take down that communist state for the past 70 years. the uS takes out, or tries to take out, any mildly leftist government in Central and South America, and has been since the end of world war 2. they don’t promote communism.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Dec 19 2022 22:47 utc | 102

A Socialist in Canada argues that the Russian government is preserving much of the best achieved by the USSR
“The essay describes the achievements and the lasting legacy of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) for today’s Russia and for the world. It is not a comprehensive history of the USSR; that is for historians to continue to write and debate. The essay’s most salient feature is the insight it offers into the thinking of many of the people of the Russian Federation at this very turbulent turning point in their history.
“The essay explains the wholesale loss by the people of the Russian Federation of positive expectations for the Western imperialist countries as the latter escalate their drive to isolate and weaken Russia and its government. Many other similar writings are appearing in Russian media, reflecting a deepening understanding in Russian society that world imperialism—headed by the United States and including the major powers of Europe and Japan–is very much alive, dangerous, and, quite literally, out to get them. There is a profound upheaval taking place in the political thinking and the aspirations of the many peoples of the Russian Federation.This column gives voice to that.
https://socialistincanada.ca/todays-russia-is-upholding-much-of-the-positive-soviet-legacy/

Posted by: bevin | Dec 19 2022 22:48 utc | 103

From Putin’s speech in Belarus
http://kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/70148

Let me remind you that as part of the consistent implementation of the common military doctrine of Russia and Belarus, joint military planning is underway, and a Russian-Belarusian regional grouping of troops is operating. Currently, in the territory of Belarus, measures are being taken to coordinate the combat coordination of formations and military units of our countries. A unified air defense system has been created and is on combat duty. We agreed to continue to jointly take all necessary measures to ensure reliable security of our two countries, to give priority to training troops, improving their combat readiness and combat capability, and to continue the practice of regular joint exercises and other operational and combat training activities, to carry out mutual deliveries of high-demand weapons and to jointly produce new military equipment.
I consider it possible to continue implementing the proposals of the President of Belarus on training the crews of combat aircraft of the Belarusian army, which have already been converted for the possible use of air-based ammunition with a special warhead. I would like to emphasize that this form of cooperation is not our invention. The United States of America, for example, has been conducting similar activities with its NATO allies for decades. Such coordinated measures are extremely important in view of the tense situation on the external borders of the Union State.

There has been a lot of joint military activity in Belarus over the last month or so and judging by Putin’s speech, it is now a formal military allegiance.
The speeches of both Putin and Lukashenko focused mostly on the economic sphere. Lukashenko mentioned how Belarus, Ukraine and western Russia were heavily industrialized with leading tech in soviet times and said that industrial infrastructure had all been preserved in Belarus. From what I understand, sanctions on Belarus have cut into exports from that manufacturing capacity though it seems Russia has been able to take up some of that.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Dec 19 2022 22:55 utc | 104

Gt Stroller@96
I agree with you, there was enormous popular sympathy with the slaves and, it is often forgotten, with the Indians whose land had been subjected to “enclosure-like” legislation by the British. They were intent on setting up another rural society in which landlords rented to tenants who employed, or drove away, the toilers from the villages whose communal title had until then not been practically challenged by rich men claiming to own the land, which was then dedicated to commodity production.
I believe that General Cornwallis (well known to Americans) who was governor of Bengal when the Land Settlement was imposed on Bengalis was actually engaged in enclosing ‘his’ estates in East Anglia.

Posted by: bevin | Dec 19 2022 23:00 utc | 105

@ juliania | Dec 19 2022 22:03 utc | 99 with the response about monotheism…thanks
Don’t blame Graeber/Wengrow for my thoughts, please and thank you.
Heavens, psychohistorian, you have misunderstood me! I do not blame anyone – I remember reading some of Graeber’s thoughts and admiring them, before I read Michael Hudson or you. I was quoting an author I admire in hopes you would respond in kind, that’s all, thinking we each stand at opposite ends of a bridge. We are both, as you say, human. I was hoping to meet in the middle, as we have met in your first paragraph above.
I too had some years of Catholic teaching, (myself not a Catholic and I am not one now.) I’m sorry that was a traumatic experience for you, worse it sounds than for me.
Here’s a quote from Buber that might help. (Buber is Jewish, by the way):

…If you explore the life of things and of conditional being, you come to the unfathomable; if you deny the life of things and of conditional being, you stand before nothingness; if you hallow this life you meet the living God…

In other words, we use words sometimes without exploring what they mean to others. I really think often we are expressing very similar beliefs, just speaking different languages.
Of course, I do not, nor do I think most Catholics “think of a God as only one aspect of a species they created”. God is in essence unfathomable. But we needn’t continue; I don’t want to argue. I’ll just finish with another quote I love:

… he who speaks the word God and really has Thou in mind (whatever the illusion by which he is held) addresses the true Thou of his life, which cannot be limited by another Thou, and to which he stands in a relation that gathers up and includes all others.
But when he, too, who abhors the name and believes himself to be godless, gives his whole being to addressing the Thou of his life, as a Thou that cannot be limited by another, he addresses God.

Posted by: juliania | Dec 19 2022 23:48 utc | 106

Just in case my 106 wasn’t clear, dear psychohistorian, you do know I hope that ‘mono’ doesn’t mean man; it means ‘one’. And when I say ‘he’ I mean either man or woman, I speak of mankind as just that, either one or the other. I agree with you that we are all equal, of course I do! Why else would I be able to shoot my mouth off here as I do (hopefully not too often; I’m done now, I promise.)
😉

Posted by: juliania | Dec 20 2022 0:36 utc | 107

@pretzelattack | Dec 19 2022 14:06 utc | 9
You didnt read attentively.
The comment was longer than you could stomach I suppose
And to clarify further Dulles hided the documents he obtained from Cuban intel proving that Castro had known communist sympathies.
He hided them but why?
I offered a couple of interpretations.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 20 2022 0:49 utc | 108

@pretzelattack | Dec 19 2022 22:47 utc | 102
Are you sure the US fucked up when this is what has happened with all countries where a communist revolution took place.
The nations where they dont fuck up are where there was a democratic election bringing socialists to power.
Three US ambassadors, one to Mexico and two to Cuba confirmed that the US helped Castro to power.
While I agree with Opportunityknocks that there was an additional motive like he suggests.
The fact is that five days before Sputnik I went up a nuclear reactor exploded in the USSR.
I leave out the rest of the details of my suspicions
But I think there was a reason for the US to offer the Soviets a compensation and that Cuba was the gift.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 20 2022 1:26 utc | 109

@106 juliania | Dec 19 2022 23:48 utc
Dropping in at the end of a conversation, but thank you for that quote. I can see why you love it. It is a lovely thing.
I think, when one addresses Thou and goes toward this with devotion, one is on the sole path there is, and this is shared by all, of every denomination, and every style of non-denomination – by everyone.
And in this approaching, all characteristics fall away, so, as you clearly understand, none of the points that one may bicker about are even present anymore, let alone to argue over. There is only Thou.
This is the universal finding of our human experience, always, and always awaits the re-finding by anyone. It was here before us, and quite obviously after us, and immanently here now.
I think we should never have to hesitate to declare our love of this, which is as great as the entire universe, and as present as our own nature – as close as that, which is why it is so hard to see.
And the looking for it out there, in the necessary devotion to Thou, is also the final loving innocence to pass through, so the teachers say, in order to find it in ourselves, as our own nature, always with us, and almost never recognized.
~~
I hope you don’t mind my saying all this. It was your Thou that kindled a flame of devotion, and it was impossible not to sing its praises.

Posted by: Grieved | Dec 20 2022 2:03 utc | 110

jUST CONcluded Bio weapon convention in Geneva.
Russian Proposal…
‘Lets make the Biological Weapons Convention legally binding. ‘
129 – 4
GUess who’r the FOUR HORSEMEN OF APOCALYPSE ?

Posted by: denk | Dec 20 2022 3:14 utc | 111

@ denk | Dec 20 2022 3:14 utc | 111
okay…i’ll bite… who?

Posted by: james | Dec 20 2022 4:15 utc | 112

It’s lovely, Grieved. Thank you so much!

Posted by: juliania | Dec 20 2022 4:32 utc | 113

Woops, forgot:
Posted by: Grieved | Dec 20 2022 2:03 utc | 110

Posted by: juliania | Dec 20 2022 4:33 utc | 114

Posted by: james | Dec 20 2022 4:15 utc | 112
————–
FUKUSC
PS
Normally FUKUS = fuck UK, US
[COUrtesy of deb !]
In this case, it doubles as France too.
FUKUS very versatile. !
https://news.russia.postsen.com/trends/124682.html
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202212/1282167.shtml

Posted by: denk | Dec 20 2022 4:40 utc | 115

lol – france, uk, usa and canada?? fukus.. i have seen that acronym used before..

Posted by: james | Dec 20 2022 4:59 utc | 116

@Peter AU1 80
You’re being way too generous, as long as India is led by seething idealogues as deluded as this bar’s designated Bhakht – and it will, the Indians keep voting them in after all – it will never achieve any global power or influence that even makes it worth making any comparison to the Nazis. And an India perpetually seething about China but never accomplishing anything is still a way better state of affairs than that.

Posted by: J D | Dec 20 2022 6:09 utc | 117

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 20 2022 1:26 utc | 109
no it didnt happen with all countries where a communist revolution took place. the US didn’t install the bolsheviks, they invaded Russia after world war 1 to help the Whites oust the reds. same with China, they backed Chiang Kai-Shek to the hilt against Mao, hence the bitter debate over “who lost China”. they refused support to Vietnam against the French. they bitterly opposed the revolution in Nicaragua, funding the contras, they funded the right wing terrorists in El Salvador to beat FEMA. you’re rewriting history.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Dec 20 2022 6:16 utc | 118

@ pretzelattack | Dec 20 2022 6:16 utc | 118
Too true, yet not only did we refuse from the beginning, post end WWII, to support Vietnam against the French … from the beginning, we financed, armed & provided massive logistical support to the French to keep the war going. We even seriously considered using nukes at the French request to save their Stalingrad … Dien Bien Phu. See: John F Dulles, USAF Nuke happy, Ultimately Ike veto (& not the only time he did re nuke use).
The French-Vietnam War was a US proxy war financed & facilitated by the US, using French troops. Similar in that aspect to Ukraine vs Russia. The Vietnam War(American War) was not a new war, merely a continuation of the prior, with US boots on the ground.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 20 2022 6:52 utc | 119

@ Outraged | Dec 20 2022 6:52 utc | 119 & pretzelattack | Dec 20 2022 6:16 utc | 118
Quoting myself from a speech I gave to Norwegians Veterans about 4 years ago about my experience in Vietnam:

“As I was writing this talk just two weeks ago, secret cables from 50 years ago were made public for the first time. I had to add the contents here as it not only stunned me in it’s evilness but it puts my coming point about morality absolutely beyond question.
In a cable to the top military man in Lyndon Johnson’s cabinet, General Wheeler, the military commander of American forces in Vietnam, General Westmoreland, wrote on Feb. 3, 1968:
‘Should the situation in the DMZ area change dramatically, we should be prepared to introduce weapons of greater effectiveness against massed forces, Under such circumstances, I visualize that either tactical nuclear weapons or chemical agents would be active candidates for employment’.
Fortunately, when President Johnson was presented with the idea he vetoed it but now I ask you to think about it for a moment – In 1968 the top General of the United States forces in Vietnam was proposing the use not only of nuclear weapons, but also chemical weapons. In Vietnam. Not to end a World War. In Vietnam!”

Source of Westy’s quote eludes me at the moment but can find if pressed.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Dec 20 2022 7:10 utc | 120

@ waynorinorway | Dec 20 2022 7:10 utc | 120
Primary source reference:

51. Memorandum From the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (Wheeler) to President Johnson
The Office of The Historian of the U.S. Department of State
CM-2944–68
Washington, February 3, 1968.
SUBJECT Khe Sanh

“8. The use of tactical nuclear weapons should not be required in the present situation in view of the authority to use COFRAM. However, should the situation in the DMZ area change dramatically, we should be prepared to introduce weapons of greater effectiveness against massed forces. Under such circumstances I visualize that either tactical nuclear weapons or chemical agents would be active candidates for employment.”5
Earle G. Wheeler

Secondary source reference:

Memo for the President from General Wheeler, Feb 3, 1968, CM-2944-68, NSF, NSC History, March 31st speech, Vol. 6, Khe Sanh reports, A-S, Box 48, LBJL. John Prados and Ray W. Stubbe, Valley of Decision: The Seige of Khe Sanh (Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1991), p. 291.

Also note, nuclear & chemical weapons were held ready for deployment in Vietnam, on the sovereign territory of US Navy CVAs on Station, throughout the War.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 20 2022 10:20 utc | 121

China Covid report continued (Tuesday 8 pm local time)
For psychohistorian and other interested parties. Thank you for your interest.
I am trying to assess the situation in the absence of officially reported information, so this is essentially anecdotal.
The Shenzhen Daily for most of this year has given detailed daily accounts of new cases. Last week they dropped the asymptomatic count (which had for some time represented the majority of cases). On Sunday last the final report appeared and ludicrously it quoted none in our Nanshan district which is one of six in this population of 18 million.
I described the scene locally on Sunday where a queue somewhere in the region of a thousand people were lining up in the park to receive a free voluntary test, presumably to confirm or otherwise a suspected infection, which I take as evidence of a rapid increase.
Among my wife’s local WeChat group, 50% are infected. Similarly, the staff of a local bar we frequent. Our tenant on the 11th floor is infected. Another colleague was infected while travelling on the MTR so presumably many in that carriage became infected too. The Christmas party planned for Saturday has been postponed as several invitees are affected and nobody else wants to attend. All of this suggests that millions are infected in Shenzhen alone. Whatever, there is no doubt that the infection rate now is way off the scale. No wonder the media don’t want to give figures. Instead we are treated to worthy lectures on how to minimize risk and what to do if affected.
Road traffic and pedestrian numbers are much reduced. People are staying home either with or in fear of the virus.
I read an alarmist article from WSWS an hour ago claiming that the hospitals in China are overflowing, that people are collapsing and dying on the floor, and that social media are flush with photos of same (though they did not print any). All I can say is that nobody in our social circle or on our Wechat accounts is saying anything of the sort, or has reported any deaths at all.
I’ll return when I have fresh news.

Posted by: Walt | Dec 20 2022 12:02 utc | 122

Two more simple questions for the .50 $ army:
1) Did the ancient Tibetan script derive from India or China?
2) Tibet’s capital Lhasa is much close to Indian cities or Chinese cities?

Posted by: Antonym | Dec 20 2022 12:39 utc | 123

Big rivers originating from the Tibetan plateau: not only the Yangtse and Yellow rivers but also the Indus, Sutlej and Brahmaputra plus the Salween Irrawaddy and Mekong. No natural Chinese monopoly, just CCP imperialism to grab neutral space. Close to zero chance of Anglo grab for Tibet then, and now – no supply lines.

Posted by: Antonym | Dec 20 2022 12:46 utc | 124

Posted by: Antonym | Dec 20 2022 12:39 utc | 123
I’ve been waiting for you.
It’s clear that you come here only to disparage China with your scattergun strategy of ill-founded provocations. OK. China is not paradise. It’s not even perfect. There. I admitted it. But nobody here said it was. I gather from previous correspondence here that you live in India. Let’s turn the tables and talk about India instead.
I went there once on business a few years ago. As the plane approached the runway, a vast area of insanitary shanty dwellings came into view of the type I have become familiar with in the Philippines, a far poorer country but which are, as far as I am aware, and I have visited about 15 provinces, entirely absent in China, a country which has taken some 800,000,000 citizens out of absolute poverty in recent years.
I had been in India just 24 hours when I went down with severe diarrhoea, and I had eaten and drunk only in a relatively upmarket hotel.
China and India as developing countries were once spoken of in the same breath. China since 2006 has become our family company’s busiest market by far. By contrast, across thirty years in business we have had numerous enquiries from India but none have ever amounted to anything. When I get an enquiry from India now I deal with it as quickly and politely as I can, because I know it to be a complete waste of time. There is something lacking with which I have never come to terms. Is it the quality of STEM education? Yet it is strong in IT, I must admit.
I recall reading horrific reports that suggest that the treatment of women in India leaves much to be desired. A few moments’ search quickly found this by way of an example:
The UN Population Fund states that more than 2/3rds of married women in India, aged between 15 to 49 have been beaten, raped or forced to provide sex. In 2005, 6787 cases were recorded of women murdered by their husbands or their husbands’ families. 56% of Indian women believed occasional wife-beating to be justified.
I don’t have any personal knowledge of the caste system except to say that your revealed attitude to it is evidence of shame, and the link you posted quoting one person claiming that it is a “thing of the past” is unconvincing, even though he said it four times: I don’t think aeons of social customs can be shed so effectively.
If I had to choose to live anywhere other than China or the Philippines, I would put India somewhere like, oh I don’t know, perhaps 150th, because there certainly are worse countries elsewhere: Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Yemen, Israel, the EU, the UK, the USA….
What say you leave China alone for a while and try to change my opinion about India?

Posted by: Walt | Dec 20 2022 12:46 utc | 125

@ Walt | 150
Good that you finally come clean: your company did business easier in China than India. Quite possible, China has no real labor unions, lax pollution laws, a dependent judiciary, no pay of pensions, medical insurance, the same reasons why Apple, Amazon, Walmart, Volkwagen etc. came: a capitalist’s paradise. You’re still too small for copycatting like a Telsa, which now suffers from forced CCP created competition. The WEF party is over while the CCP party is starting up. Foxconn is massively expanding in south India right now. Sure, no monster profits – just normal profits – but more business independence and less authoritarianism. Plus that little thing of freedom. Lockdowns are long history here, the population wouldn’t suffer them over a few weeks.
Your food anecdote is just that. For food safety I prefer vegetarian Indian food over zoo dishes served in China. No big deal, just personal preference.

Posted by: Antonym | Dec 20 2022 13:11 utc | 126

Posted by: Antonym | Dec 20 2022 13:11 utc | 126
You have not understood our trading position.
We export B2B to companies in China, not import from there.
We have found no companies in India to work with to compare.
How about you counter my points about India’s poor poverty alleviation record, insanitary catering, misogyny, and caste classism? Perhaps there is no defence?
I do like rogan josh though.

Posted by: Walt | Dec 20 2022 13:24 utc | 127

The EU likes their price caps, for sure. Turns out they have also issued a directive on October 7th, setting the cap of electricity price for users at 18 cents / kWh. Will be interesting to see how many people notice this and claim their rights… not many is my guess.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 20 2022 13:38 utc | 128

@ Walt | 127
I am not in business let alone B2B but know people who are. In India there is no (BJP) decisive Party Kommissar inside any significant company OR military section like in the PRC.
Your other points:
India has the same population size as China now, 1.4 billion, but with more kids. This is not possible with starvation, abject poverty etc. You will have a hard time finding even a beggar without a mobile phone. Insanity catering I leave to the CCP, but Indians find foreigners less clean than them: bathing twice a day. Misogyny is bad in China I agree; India had a female PM and has a (tribal) female president today. Women are Shakthi, the men’s power bank you could say, that why so many gods are female. How many women did you count in the CCP’s new Politburo, zero? Caste? Today most Indians want to belong to some low caste group because of the huge positive discrimination the government created over many decades.

Posted by: Antonym | Dec 20 2022 13:39 utc | 129

unimperator | Dec 20 2022 13:38 utc | 128
“cap of electricity price for users at 18 cents / kWh”
Don’t know where you got this from, but it would be the gross price. Add to that taxes (yes, there are several in Germany), and fees/duties/levies/apportionments (yes, there are several in Germany), and you’ll end up with 30 or 35 cents net and in total for 1 kWh. Now that number sounds about right.

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Dec 20 2022 14:39 utc | 130

Time flies … back in June ?

Türkiye expects ‘not kind words but concrete steps’ from Sweden, Finland to address its concerns
As there is nothing more to say about Türkiye’s demands, ‘concrete steps must be taken from now on,’ says Turkish foreign minister.

Türkiye, Finland, and Sweden signed a memorandum this June on the Nordic countries’ bids for NATO membership. The memorandum requires Finland and Sweden to take steps on Türkiye’s terrorism concerns, including the extradition of terror suspects, and to lift an arms embargo.
In return, Türkiye would allow the Nordic countries to become NATO members.
However, Ankara has accused Finland and Sweden of not complying with the deal, as both nations have so far failed to extradite wanted terrorists sought by Ankara.

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 20 2022 14:49 utc | 131

@pretzelattack | Dec 20 2022 6:16 utc |
You are completely wrong
The anglosaxons did indeed help the bolsheviks. An american general who took part confided that he didnt know what they were doing there.
That particular info from some ww2 site no longer comes up when I try to google it.
But Lenin confirmed that the anglosaxons could easily have crushed them in the initial period.
And the anglosaxons in paradeuniform performed a psyop in front of the scared civilians to help Lenin recruite to the bolshevik side.
For example using the call ‘ the capitalists are stealing our revolution’ or something similar.
Nikolai Starikovs book The liquidation of Russia demonstrates how the British military systematically undermined the white armies until they were defeated.
George C Marshal with an advisor who was a Rhodes scholar prevented Chiang Kai Shek from obtaining weapons deliveries which instead went to Mao. And Maos adepts had since around 1925 had access to YMCA localities for training. Yale university and members of the angloamerican establishment like Bertrand Russel and John Dewey had been lecturing the Chinese since after WWI
They explained that they didnt want China to become capitalist and around the same time similar views were expressed in the US Parliament concerning Russia.
The common denominator was the Britishled anglosaxon brotherhood.
It was their Pilgrim Society which was behind the spread of communism.
Lenin, before WWI, lived in the London home of the Pilgrim who also later participated in the operation which covertly helped Mao.
And like you say in Vietnam the US didnt want to help despite Ho’s positive US-influenced experience and preparedeness to develop the economy to independence from the colonial powers. Thus his marxist inclinations were strengthened.
If the US had wanted Vietnam to join a market economical model they had a very good chance but they apparently had neither any intention of spreading freedom nor of encouraging peace and development.
And Nicaragua when you check the facts was somewhat similar to what happened in Syria recently. Somosa allowed liberal freedom of the press and the media was spreading the kind of propaganda about evil dictator like they did with Syria.
In both Cuba and Nicaragua the US withheld weapons to the government but let it through to the rebels.
In parallell with Nicaragua, like I wrote before, there was a now largely silenced process going on to create a competing financial instrument involving the USSR Europe Japan and OPEC for development of the poorer nations.
And the shah of Iran was ousted by the anglosaxons.
The anglosaxons managed to block everything.
I believe handing over Nicaragua to communism was a way to milden the warrisk.
But in addition there was the manned space program that the USSR knew too much about.
And an ongoing extensive hitech trade program between the cold war opponents.
The Soviets had leverage and it was more important for the anglosaxon elites to prevent the approach between all the other rivals that was previously on the way.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 20 2022 15:01 utc | 132

@ waynorinorway | Dec 20 2022 7:10 utc | 120
thanks.. that is rather deeply disturbing… rsk shared a link on the other thread discussing some of the parallels with vietnam and here too, which you might want to read… i fear that these same types of thought processes are at work..
Washington Is Prolonging Ukraine’s Suffering

Posted by: james | Dec 20 2022 17:17 utc | 133

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 20 2022 15:01 utc | 132
you’re wrong about almost everything. the reason the US didnt help Ho Chi Mihn was precisely because of his marxist leanings. the american general was no doubt puzzled the US was waging war on an ally during the war. Cant wait to find out what “manned space program which the Soviets knew too much about” means. the US has opposed socialism since the Paris Commune. the capitalists were indeed behind the spread of communism, because the society they created and perpetuate is a manifest failure for the great majority of people, but they do not consciously help their opposition, they try to crush it.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Dec 20 2022 17:39 utc | 134

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Dec 20 2022 14:39 utc | 130
The electricity price cap thing was this. I was wrong, it’s not for actual end users / consumers, but for electric production companies and distribution companies. The EU commission has directed that all gross revenue exceeding 180 euros per MWh should be collected (socialized). But the difference isn’t directed at consumers, rather governments seem to be doing it with windfall taxes.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2022/1854
Needless to say, leaving less money for companies will certainly not increase investments to new power generation, and will not fix the problem. My bet is the situation will continue the same for many years, and the damage done across the economy will be unrecoverable.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 20 2022 17:42 utc | 135

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 20 2022 17:42 utc | 135
And once more, read article 6 of that link…
Article 6
Mandatory cap on market revenues
1. Market revenues of producers obtained from the generation of electricity from the sources referred to in Article 7(1) shall be capped to a maximum of 180 EUR per MWh of electricity produced.
2. Member States shall ensure that the cap on market revenues targets all the market revenues of producers and, where relevant, intermediaries participating in electricity wholesale markets on behalf of producers, regardless of the market timeframe in which the transaction takes place and of whether the electricity is traded bilaterally or in a centralised marketplace.
3. Member States shall put effective measures in place to prevent a circumvention of the obligations on producers pursuant to paragraph 2. They shall in particular make sure that the cap on market revenues is effectively applied in cases where producers are controlled, or partially owned, by other undertakings, in particular where they are part of a vertically integrated undertaking.
4. Member States shall decide whether to apply the cap on market revenues at the settlement of the exchange of energy or thereafter.
5. The Commission shall provide guidance to Member States in the implementation of this Article.

Posted by: unimperator | Dec 20 2022 17:43 utc | 136

A follow-up to #5:
“Silence equals propaganda”: SIS insisted on banning Russian-language media in Moldova (EurAsia Daily, December 20, 2022 — in Russian — emphasis mine)

The Commission for Emergency Situations has suspended the broadcasting of six Russian-language TV channels in Moldova on the recommendation of the Information and Security Service (SIS). This was stated on TVR Moldova by the head of the intelligence service, Alexandru Musteață, who stressed that the agency he leads closely monitored the work of the media and draws its own conclusions.
Moldova has a so-called law on combating Russian disinformation. Broadcasting of Russian news and political content is banned in the republic, and local mass media can be held accountable for “incorrect” coverage of the situation in the Ukraine.
“Together with the Television and Radio Council, we have analyzed violations of the Audiovisual Media Services Code committed by channels, for those companies that are on the sanctions list. In addition, four out of six TV channels changed ownership without the approval of the Television and Radio Council. As a result, we came to the conclusion that these six TV channels have committed the most gross violations,” Musteață said.
These TV channels were broadcasting entertainment programs and refrained from covering the SMO (war in the Ukraine — S). The SIS qualified these actions as “silence” and classified them as “propaganda.” The service presented its recommendations and conclusions to the Commission for Emergency Situations.
“Our goal is to protect against disinformation. There has been an erroneous or distorted presentation of events in the country and the region, a systemic violation. This is not an act of censorship, but a result of analysis. We have presented arguments and proved a systemic violation of the Audiovisual Media Services Code,” concluded the head of the SIS.
Earlier, the United States, and then the United Kingdom, imposed sanctions on those citizens and companies that, in their opinion, “influence the policy of Moldova in order to establish Moscow’s control.” At their request, Chișinău is also preparing to adopt the Magnitsky Act, which the Ministry of Justice is now adapting to the Republic of Moldova.

Amazing. In “free democratic” Moldova, it’s not enough to avoid covering the war if you disagree with Western propaganda about it—you must repeat Western propaganda. Otherwise, you are classified as “propaganda” and banned.
But it’s not censorship! No, no. It’s just a “result of analysis.” So it’s totally okay!

Posted by: S | Dec 20 2022 19:04 utc | 137

If anyone wishes to hear a rant by Jonathan Pike; about the UK Government (fuckwits, as he says several times) and the strikers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gljtvwhcdhc
(5 mins, no script, and he seems really angry)

Posted by: Stonebird | Dec 20 2022 20:06 utc | 138

Take it or leave it but still pay US shafting of EU with 20 yr contracts for gas.
Sweet deal.
“Steinecker also said that the United States will continue to keep gas costs for the region at a high level due to its 20-year take-or-pay contracts. He noted that Washington is currently profiting on the supply of expensive liquified natural gas (LNG), and is hindering the rapprochement between Russia and Europe.”
https://www.rt.com/business/568251-austria-russia-gas-imports/
https://journalrecord.com/2022/12/14/eu-to-us-we-already-have-war-dont-add-trade-war/

Posted by: Tom_12 | Dec 20 2022 21:02 utc | 139

unimperator | Dec 20 2022 17:42 utc | 135 & 136
Thank you for the follow-up! I admire you for being able to parse and explain this EU sh*t. I couldn’t. I’m just left to wonder why the industry is putting up with all this, these absurd and unreasonable new rules made up on the go. Shouldn’t big business be the overlord of politics?

Have any of our Australian barflies heard of the statement of one Dr. Kerryn Phelps? It’s about Covid and the vaccines, and it was given to parliament, apparently.

“Russian Oil Exports Collapse More Than 50% As Exxon Shuns Tankers That Hauled Russian Crude”
That’s the headline of a fresh article over at ZeroHedge. You don’t have to like the exageration in the headline to give credit to the article. The idiotic price-cap will have SOME effect, won’t it. The article seems to suggest that markets will go through a period of severe disorientation, chaos even. The result may very well be a divided market, worldwide, with some companies ready to do business with anybody and others who will strictly shun Russia. Looking forward to anything B may have to say about it.

James Howard Kunstler’s latest is well worth to be read.

It started when the women of the professional and managerial class watched their avatar, Hillary Clinton, lose the 2016 election against a man who seemed the quintessence of everything they hated about Daddydom.
Donald Trump, flawed to perfection, wrecked the chance of the amalgamated successful women of America to run the national household.
[…] Up rose a social movement, Wokery, that had the earmarks of a histrionic religious mania, with Satanic overtones. Up rose the demons, the Antifa louts, the BLM arsonists, the drag queens.
Thus unrolled a national psychodrama that continues to spool out as every system, every business, every institution in our country now wobbles and flies apart.

Sounds about right to me.

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Dec 20 2022 21:11 utc | 140

What will opening up mean for omicron viral evolution? Scientists from the PRC have just published imo a landmark paper on this topic.

Imprinted SARS-CoV-2 humoral immunity induces convergent Omicron RBD evolution
Yunlong Cao et al
19 Dec 2022
Abstract
Continuous evolution of Omicron has led to a rapid and simultaneous emergence of numerous variants that display growth advantages over BA.5 1. Despite their divergent evolutionary courses, mutations on their receptor-binding domain (RBD) converge on several hotspots. The driving force and destination of such sudden convergent evolution and its impact on humoral immunity remain unclear. Here, we demonstrate that these convergent mutations can cause striking evasion of neutralizing antibody (NAb) drugs and convalescent plasma, including those from BA.5 breakthrough infection, while maintaining sufficient ACE2 binding capability. BQ.1.1.10 (BQ.1.1+Y144del), BA.4.6.3, XBB, and CH.1.1 are the most antibody-evasive strains tested. To delineate the origin of the convergent evolution, we determined the escape mutation profiles and neutralization activity of monoclonal antibodies (mAbs) isolated from BA.2 and BA.5 breakthrough-infection convalescents 2,3. Due to humoral immune imprinting, BA.2 and especially BA.5 breakthrough infection reduced the diversity of the NAb binding sites and increased proportions of non-neutralizing antibody clones, which in turn focused humoral immune pressure and promoted convergent evolution in the RBD. Moreover, we showed that the convergent RBD mutations could be accurately inferred by deep mutational scanning (DMS) profiles 4,5, and the evolution trends of BA.2.75/BA.5 subvariants could be well-foreseen through constructed convergent pseudovirus mutants. These results suggest current herd immunity and BA.5 vaccine boosters may not efficiently prevent the infection of Omicron convergent variants.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05644-7

Posted by: suzan | Dec 21 2022 1:44 utc | 141

Posted by: Antonym | Dec 20 2022 13:39 utc | 129
You have not countered any of my points about India, you just continue to cloud the issues with smears at China.
Regarding business, India has failed utterly to compete with China and I have given as an example our failure to secure any worthwhile supply relationships to businesses there against currently about 50 in China.
India’s population growth is clearly out of control: the existence of massive slum cities such as exist in the Philippines is clear evidence of abject poverty. Yes, even in the Philippines they too will have a cheap mobile phone but also no sanitation, no clean water, no electricity supply. Is that any way to live in the 21st century? The Philippines under the new president at least is trying to do something about it.
I can scarcely believe the fact that you consider that India has women prime ministers and goddesses is any comfort to ordinary women who face mass rape, beatings and murder on a daily basis.
As for the caste system, you have turned from denying it to praising it!
Nope. You fail to change my mind. I’ll stay in China with breaks in the Philippines, thank you very much.
Tibet’s capital Lhasa is much close to Indian cities or Chinese cities?
Er…Lhasa is a Chinese city.

Posted by: Walt | Dec 21 2022 2:31 utc | 142

————-

Agni 1 can hit Shengzhen..
agni 3 can reach Shanghai…
Agni 5 ..the China killer.

This is more or less how India announced its missile progress.
Here’s the best part,

Agni 5 a mighty deterrence to China

.
BUt I dont recall China ever threatened India with nuclear blackmail. ?
Anyone who paid attention knows it,

there is no history whatsoever of Chinese attempts at nuclear blackmail against anyone.

Why such belligerence ?
It often cross my mind ,
Thank gawd it’s “China that got its nukes before India.
https://tinyurl.com/4nujetkz
PS
The troll need not apply.

Posted by: denk | Dec 21 2022 2:56 utc | 143

Qatargate & the Decline of the European Left by Attilio Moro
“On Dec. 9 Belgian police arrested a man carrying a piece of luggage full of cash. The man is the father of Eva Kaili, a Greek MEP and a vice president of the European Parliament. He was taken into custody as police broke into Kaili’s Brussels’ apartment, where they found cash everywhere: in clothes pockets hanging in the closet, in old shoes, and in plastic bags.
“Between father and daughter about €750,000 were found. Kaili’s secretary and companion, Francesco Giorgi, was also arrested. Some hours later, former MEP Antonio Panzieri, founder of the NGO Fight Impunity, was apprehended under the same accusation as the Kailis: participation in a criminal organization, money laundering and corruption.
“The last to be arrested that day was Luca Visentini, who stepped aside five days later from his post as general secretary of the International Trade Union Confederation. Together, police in Belgium, Italy and Greece seized €1.5 million in cash…..
“…This scandal has also brought to light the decline of the Italian left (almost all of the MEPs so far indicted belong to the PD (Partito Democratico). It has shown once again that the PD has little or nothing to do any longer with the traditional organizations of the Italian working class, which has always been in the front line against political corruption. The party’s permeability to corruption might be because the DP has lost its political vision.
“But this is not the case only for the Italian left. The British Labor Party has for 30 years stopped representing the interests of working Britons. The French Socialists have disappeared. The German SPD is ruling the country but without even a taste of left-wing traditional policies of peace and social justice. Instead corruption can fester in today’s European left.”
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/20/qatargate-the-decline-of-the-european-left/

Posted by: bevin | Dec 21 2022 3:44 utc | 144

Posted by: Stonebird | Dec 20 2022 20:06 utc | 138
Excellent. Thanks for the link- amazing the way he slips between a MSM approved nonsense intro and The Truth then, in the last couple of seconds, back to MSM rubbish again

Posted by: bevin | Dec 21 2022 3:55 utc | 145

Posted by: Christian Chuba | Dec 18 2022 23:58 utc | 56
From a cursory casting of my gaze over their website, it appears that it is an Atlantic Council psy-op.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Dec 21 2022 4:01 utc | 146

Posted by: Christian Chuba | Dec 18 2022 23:58 utc | 56
Ps. In the 80’s, there was concerted efforts to ban or put warning labels on a great number of musical artists’ albums.
Surely you remember all the ‘devil-worship’ bollocks about heavy metal, and the PMRC?

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Dec 21 2022 4:04 utc | 147

@ denk | 142
“China provided Pakistan with a nuclear bomb design (used in China’s October 1966 nuclear test). These designs were later passed to Libya by the A.Q. Khan network, and discovered by IAEA inspectors in 2004 after then President Muammar Qadhafi renounced his nuclear weapons program and allowed inspectors to examine related facilities. The plans contained portions of Chinese text with explicit instructions for the manufacture of an implosion device”
https://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/china-nuclear/
How BRICS neigbor friendly. India could have responded in kind by supplying Taiwan with the same but didn’t.

Posted by: Antonym | Dec 21 2022 4:59 utc | 148

@ Walt | 141
Better stay locked up in your luxury apartment in China with your flush toilet, tracked every footstep by The Party. As a friendly white foreigner, you will be treated like a king.
PS: no wife beating in the PRC? I have heard firsthand of the opposite. And women were always allowed to take as many kids as they wanted. Now they take less because education and marriage are too expensive.

Posted by: Antonym | Dec 21 2022 5:07 utc | 149

PS
Everything the troll says have been
refuted and debunked long ago.
Its just like a broken record,
No further comment on the troll.

Posted by: denk | Dec 21 2022 5:38 utc | 150

@ denk = not $0.50 but just $0.05; inflation.

Posted by: Antonym | Dec 21 2022 5:58 utc | 151

Posted by: Antonym | Dec 21 2022 5:07 utc | 148
Now you have reverted to insults, as you always do when you have lost the argument.
I think our conversation must be well past the point of boring people by now, so I’ll just leave you to traducing China on a regular basis in your usual way without further comment. You do seem to derive some perverse pleasure from it. But do try to remember this quotation:
You can have your own opinions, but not your own facts.

Posted by: Walt | Dec 21 2022 6:32 utc | 152

@ Walt | Dec 21 2022 6:32 utc | 151 with the need to respond to the troll
In my years of experience at MoA I have had to learn to not respond to all commenters that make statements that offend me.. Statements made often say much more about the maker than the person focused on.
China is not perfect and India is not perfect and my USA is far from perfect but we are all human and hope to evolve to multipolar world where everyone is treated with a modicum of respect.
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I am looking forward to reading more about the China Covid “coming out” experience and expect that there will not be a lot of related deaths. If there are significant deaths it would make the West elite happy.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 21 2022 6:43 utc | 153

Peru. “Nothing to see here; please move along.” Peru has copper and… lithium. “Nothing to see here; please move along.”

Posted by: Gene Poole | Dec 21 2022 6:59 utc | 154

@Piotr Berman
The Achaemenid Empire or Achaemenian Empire also called the First Persian Empire, was an ancient Iranian empire founded by Cyrus the Great in 550 BC. Based in Western Asia, it was contemporarily the largest empire in history, spanning a total of 5.5 million square kilometres (2.1 million square miles) from the Balkans and Egypt in the west to Central Asia and the Indus Valley in the east. [précis from Achaemenid Empire at Wikipedia with footnotes suppressed].
The Baal Cycle is an Ugaritic text and is referenced in the Canaanite Kuntillet Ajrud petrographs dating to the late 9th/early 8th centuries BCE where references and DNA connect the Hebrews genetically and culturally to the Canaanites and their Ugaritic forefathers (see also the role of Abraham in their origin myth).
All of the cultures of the region maintained extensive records of the regions they controlled, and the people they knew about. In all those records the Hebrews are alleged to be mentioned just four times, though not conclusively, and twice as migrant people. Once as a wandering band of homeless people called “I.si.ri.ar”, whose “land is laid waste and seed [their grain-store] utterly destroyed” on the Victory Stele of Merneptah c. 1209 BCE. The others are the Mesha Stele 840 BCE referring to “the House of OMRI” describing how Moab defeated Israel, the Tel Dan Stele c. 870–750 BCE, describes how an unnamed king (possibly Hazael) boasts of his victories over the king of Israel and his apparent ally, the king of the “byt[d]wd” (There is no separation between “byt” which might be “house”, the “d” is interpolated as the character cannot be read and “wd”, claimed to be “David”) and the Shalmaneser III Kurkh Monolith 852 BCE which mentions “A-ha-ab-bu Sir-ila-a-a” which some claimed to be a reference to “Ahab of Israel” though it would be the only known reference to “Israel” in the Assyrian and Babylonian records. More recent scholars have said that the latter refers to an unknown but powerful northwest Syrian ruler, tying back to the Ugaritic. If any of these attributions are accurate, “Israel” spent an awful lot of time being defeated and utterly destroyed, and likely had no fixed place of residence. The alternative is that there is no record of the progenitors of the people who would become the Hebrews.
We do know that the Egyptians referred to some of the occupants of the Levant as ‘peleshet’ linguistically cognate to Palestine, seen in Herodotus by the 5th Century BCE), “migratory people”. If the Victory Stele of Merneptah is taken to refer to Israel (which is unlikely but not impossible), the homeless wanderers may have been the forefathers to the Israelites. What is certain is that Egypt largely controlled the Levant directly or through the Hittites until the late bronze age collapse c. 1200-1150 BCE. After a brief interregnum, where smaller local powers thrived, by 935 BCE Assyria began to reorganise, and once more expand outwards, leading to Neo-Assyrian Empire control of the Levant 911-605 BCE, with their conquest of the entire Levant c. 856-732 BCE, followed by the Neo-Babylonian Empire from c605-548 BCE, succeeded by the Achaemenid Empire (539-332 BCE), followed by the Seleucid Empire (312-150 BCE), succeeded by the Romans until long after the Jewish revolts and the expulsion of many Jews from the region.
We also know that Bereshit (Genesis) is entirely derivative of earlier Mesopotamian works See e.g. my monograph Once Upon A Time in Genesis. From that, “As Rolf Rendtorff reflects in “The Problem of the Process of Transmission in the Pentateuch”, Parashah “B’reshit”, the creation myth of the so called “Genesis” of the “old testament”, is the remains of a collection of syncretic independent fragmentary stories and poems, gathered over time and partially homogenized when used by the Akkadian priests in a sophisticated exercise of creating a mythos for the Hebrews, which would make it exceedingly difficult for the Egyptians, who had previously ruled the Levant, to obtain further assistance from the Hebrews. The accretion, including Genesis, was then rewritten with significant editing in the post-exilic period, and again, in Alexandria. As the Hebrews transmogrified from pantheistic firstborn-sacrificing wanderers under the Egyptians, to henotheistic child-sacrificing pastoralists under the Akkadian influence, to monotheistic child-protecting urbanites under the Greeks, this required extensive, though by no means complete, reworking. Genesis is no exception to this history.”
Which is why I said what I did, and why, rather than being “preposterous” this is the current evidence understanding of the origin of the so-called Abrahamic scriptures, based upon broad strands of extra-biblical evidence (sometimes referred to as Biblical minimalism), which has done a better job of unscrambling the deliberately jumbled history of the Middle East since it’s development in the early 1970s than thousands of religiot scholars writing over hundreds of years. See e.g. my monograph On”>http://bit.ly/OnTheBible”>On the Bible.

Posted by: Hermit | Dec 21 2022 7:59 utc | 155

“These results suggest current herd immunity and BA.5 vaccine boosters may not efficiently prevent …”
Posted by: suzan | Dec 21 2022 1:44 utc | 140
I get the feeling the writers are saying that to some extant the Boosters are helping. OK, but what about these important questions:
Where are the Long Term Effect studies on the Pfizer/Moderna shots ????
Are there any such studies on giving people Boosters n-times ???
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/20/covid-vaccine-booster-shots-can-fight-bapoint5but-millions-arent-boosted.html
For nearly 3 yrs now I am walking into large stores, offices, small gaverings and I am yet to catch a cold. Where is this World Endangering Pandemic ? Don’t get me wrong, there was/is flu of strange origin but it is far from being able to wipe out the World as suggested in MSM and by the corrupt politicians.
People better think long and hard before voluntarily taking these mRNA shots because danger signals are very loud against them. Problem though, this information is not to be found in MSM.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Dec 21 2022 8:05 utc | 156

@ Walt | 151
I predict that you and 99.9% others won’t be allowed to leave the CPC busine$$ Paradi$e due to Covid hysteria. After hearing about Beijing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpNpZc9dWLs
The ‘white paper movement’ has been designated as official scape goat by The Party for this mass ‘outbreak’. Wuhan???

Posted by: Antonym | Dec 21 2022 11:08 utc | 157

Russia continues to expand it’s trade ties with Venezuela….
https://www.russia-briefing.com/news/russia-venezuela-trade-energy-economic-ties-on-fast-track-development.html/?utm_source=traqli&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=RBEdition&pnespid=4uWAgtAK6qzA7KqptB_ntqZM5AoZ.3wpiwN1RE8_rRGVNP8VH6HGzPeslhgFRcOsGTnSoAU

“Russia’s trade and development strategy with Venezuela has been taking significant steps as the two countries coordinate and enhance their joint investment plans.
Venezuela has the world’s largest proven oil reserves, however its crude oil is very heavy by international standards, and as a result much of it must be processed by specialized domestic and international refineries. Russia has the capabilities to do so.
Russian companies are ready to develop oil production and refining in Venezuela via joint ventures, Venezuela’s State Owned PDVSA CEO Asdrubal Chavez said following a meeting of the Russian-Venezuelan Intergovernmental Commission yesterday (December 14) “We have agreed to set up a respective working group in order to develop five joint ventures between Russia and Venezuela.
Russia opened its market to seven Venezuelan fish exporters in November 2022, More than 50 Russian and over 40 Venezuelan meat, fish and dairy product manufacturers are interested in becoming suppliers.
The sides are updating a trade agreement on the export and import of beef, shrimp, seafood, soybeans, sorghum, coffee and cacao and are seeking to broaden the range of Venezuelan products “on the Russian table.”
The supply of fertilizers to Venezuelan agriculture has been growing, Novak said. “The shipments grew 12% year-on-year,” he said.
Venezuelan Agriculture Minister Wilmar Castro thanked Russia for its certification of five Venezuelan shrimp enterprises and noted that Venezuela had certified nine Russian meat manufacturers. “Companies will begin deliveries shortly,” Castro said.
There is a potential for mango, banana, watermelon, pineapple, melon, passion fruit, coffee and cocoa supplies to Russia, Venezuela has requested sunflower and legume supplies from Russia.
Eleven Russian drugs and vaccines have been registered in Venezuela of late. Russia will supply cancer drugs and 1.5 million flu vaccine dosages will be delivered after the New Year. Modernization of insulin production in Venezuela using Russian technology is a landmark project, that will create over 570 highly skilled jobs. The two countries are working together on a joint center for the research and prevention of infectious diseases in Venezuela.
Moscow and Caracas have signed a contract to deploy a Glonass measurement station in Venezuela.
A set of digital financial instruments will be developed for managing cross-border transactions. The new instruments are expected to help handle mutual settlements as part of trade and economic cooperation between Russia and Venezuela and other parties concerned. One of the future products will be a digital platform for raising investment and searching for business partners.
Moscow and Caracas are developing steps to connecting Venezuela to the Mir payment system. Connecting Venezuela to the Mir payment system permits use of this card in Venezuela to servicing the travel industry.”

Apparently Venezuela is broadening countries it deals with on a mutual basis.
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Dec 21 2022 12:30 utc | 158

Russia develops terms for bi-lateral international trade….
https://www.russia-briefing.com/news/russia-lays-out-terms-for-future-bilateral-trade-investment.html/?utm_source=traqli&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=RBEdition&pnespid=_rXPyY5N8LWfo6q2pQGvoPYTuhUGuSt1whIwR0xruUCVbdb9LEwhGhdJN4gGqScrrkw5hVk
Russia sees the development of convenient and independent payment infrastructure in national currencies as a firm basis for strengthening international cooperation, essentially meaning that non-Euro and US Dollar payment mechanisms would be required to facilitate trade.
“We have already achieved good progress here. According to the latest data, the Russian Ruble’s share in our international settlements compared to December 2021 has doubled and totals one-third. Together with currencies of friendly countries, this share exceeds 50% (of all bilateral settlements)” Putin said.
This strategy spells out two major issues for dealing with Russia, which is a major global player in both energy, agriculture and related industries such as oil and gas refining, pipeline constructions and fertilizers, and is important to note that China has taken a similar stance.
For Russia, trade is increasingly conducted in Rubles and other currencies, the Chinese Yuan, as well as the Indian Rupee and other global currencies, including those from Central Asia and elsewhere. China for example has recently requested to pay in Chinese Yuan for oil it purchases from Saudi Arabia. While there are difficulties to overcome in making these arrangements, this will occur over time and will become a new trend.
The main underlying factor behind this is unhappiness with the manner in which the United States weaponized the global SWIFT payment network, which based the US dollar as the hub for global trade and instigated checks and balances for US banks to investigate the source of funds, originally intended to be a series of checks and balances against global money laundering and the drugs trade, which hurts all economies worldwide. Over time, it has turned into a tool for the United States to punish sovereign countries whose policies it does not agree with; Iran, cut off from SWIFT in 2012.
In hindsight, that was really an experiment to see if it worked, and only a matter of time before the same method was carried out on other countries – and this extended to Belarus and Russia ten years later – 2022.
This may have been a mistake. While Iran and Belarus are relatively small countries in terms of their integration with global trade, Russia is not. The action to expel Russia from SWIFT has therefore rung alarm bells with other nations who may feel they face political and trade pressures from the United States. This includes major global economies such as China, India, Turkiye, and major energy players such as Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Venezuela among many others. This means that all countries who feel that political and/or trade relations with the United States could later become problematic are now looking to alternative payment verification systems to the SWIFT network. Some are already well advanced, including China’s CIPS and Russia’s SPFS systems.”

The world moves on….
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Dec 21 2022 12:37 utc | 159

Russia and Iran establish direct payment system to facilitate trade between them….
https://www.russia-briefing.com/news/russia-iran-establish-direct-banking-arrangements-without-swift.html/?utm_source=traqli&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=RBEdition&pnespid=9fONmdBT4bfN7bSj_AekpvUO4Awbp3wumBNxAhQ46k_V2aIFtf6zCX.g4EEsXT5ehygpydc
“Russia’s second largest bank, VTB, has launched a new service allowing individuals and businesses to transfer money to and from Russia and Iran, the lender announced on Monday (December 19).
State-owned VTB, has thus become the first lender to provide banking services to Iran.
Iran’s Financial Tribune reported in mid-November this year that trade between Russia and Iran in the January-October period surpassed that of full-year 2021, totalling US$4 billion, a 20% increase in overall bilateral trade between the two countries.
The new service will allow money to be sent between Russia and Iran using account details within a day.
Next year, VTB is planning to expand transaction services with Russia’s ‘friendly’ nations, a classification describing those that have not imposed sanctions on Russia. Payments are currently available to the bank’s clients in more than ten former CIS states and some Asian countries.
Iran’s Integrated Forex Market already launched the Ruble/Rial currency pair in its trades from July this year.
Iran has a Free Trade Agreement with the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU), which includes Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan as well as Russia, and these countries can be expected to follow Russia’s currency lead. Iran-EAEU trade 2022 is on track to hit US$5 billion in the twelve months January-December 2021 and has been growing at rates in excess of 70% per annum.”

The two countries find ways to grow together.
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Dec 21 2022 12:43 utc | 160

raccoonburble, who has occasionally posted comments here, has a very sensible blog on the Covid question
“…The antivax campaign is obviously well organized and funded. It clearly tracks back to the oligarchic faction which wants public health systems eliminated. That is, those who want no public health measures because they get in the way of the profit stream and the tight control of the labor supply.
“I will trust and take information from the people who have been proven right, from the start, about everything to do with the pandemic and who are not in anyone’s pocket. The good thing which will finally come from the pandemic is consolidation of the revolution against both of the main oligarchic factions fighting to control the narrative and the population. Ehret and friends are agents for one of these factions.
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I am not interested here in getting into a prolonged debunk of the antivax side of the anti people equation. The pro people movement cannot overcome all this noise, but have the facts available for those who want to know…..
“…The only points I would make in answer to Ehret’s crap are; the hypocrisy of claiming to worry about the effects of human reproduction of mRNA vaccines. This is from someone who promotes nuclear power, the chemical industry, and genetically modified organisms.
“The trope that the vaccines “haven’t been tested”. These vaxes have been used for domestic animals, against diseases similar to covid, for a generation. There is no rule that new vaccines cannot be used widely for twenty years; in the face of new diseases like covid, that is ridiculous.
“We have over a century of experience with many types of vaccines. If they have seriously bad effects, these effects are apparent within a year.
“The trope that “vaccines did not end the pandemic, so they did not work”. No one said the vaccines themselves were going to be enough to end the pandemic. Few vaccines are even close to one hundred percent effective.
“The core message of the public health side of this triangle is that covid is going to collapse the economy and society if it is not dealt with. This requires people changing the way they do things, and putting money into the public health system. Modern ways of living require that airborne diseases be eliminated, in the same way that urbanization in the nineteenth century required serious measures to eliminate waterborne and food borne diseases.
“The bullshit arguments then against cleaning water and food are very similar to the nonsense now against cleaning the air. Interferes with “rights”, power grab by governments, slows the economy and the profit stream, real cause is elsewhere, and so on…”
What has not been said enough yet is that covid is basically a political, not a public health problem. Ending it will require serious change in how government works. Competent and incorruptible people must be in charge of things and theirs must be the only narrative.

Posted by: bevin | Dec 21 2022 15:08 utc | 161

@ bevin… i think it is more complicated then that.. also a lot of generalizations are made… mrna technology is not the same as what vaccines have been thought of… i am okay with experimentation.. it is a part of life, but lets not call something a vaccine, when it is an experiment.. i am trying not to take sides in this back and forth and would like to remain open minded here.. it is indeed tricky as it seems everyone has a horse in the race.. i would like to know why the contract the canuck gov’t entered with pfizer is not public knowledge and why we aren’t allowed to know anything about it… this doesn’t necessarily prove anything, but it is a bad sign… i continue to believe we live in a corporatocracy…. this strengthens my viewpoint..

Posted by: james | Dec 21 2022 16:36 utc | 162

Posted by: bevin | Dec 21 2022 15:08 utc | 161
Bevin – I should have said this long ago, but you consistently and eloquently express input on virtually all issues that confront our species, and which are discussed on this blog. And you always bring facts to the table, many of which I was not previously aware of. It is a treat to read your contributions. Question – are you a canuck too? I seem to recall somewhere a statement to that effect…
Posted by: james | Dec 21 2022 16:36 utc | 162
James – I said this before, but it warrants saying again – I really like your attitude – always open minded and welcoming to new input/perspective. We can all learn from this…

Posted by: retiredmecheng | Dec 21 2022 16:57 utc | 163

@pretzelattack | Dec 20 2022 17:39 utc | 134
Initisally Ho wasnt decided and was actually in the US to learn things but since the British partly controlled the agenda the Fabians would make people believe the anglosaxons really were socialists. Several leading aristocratic figures said they were socialists and british imperialists and earlier British-controlled Marx had spoken in favour of the British empire.
You say that the US has opposed socialism since the Paris commune.
Part of the US yes the other part was Britains allies and even Marx was invited to the US.
But the important phase for the US happened after the British imposed the angloamerican establishment and from before WWI when the British Pilgrim Society took charge. Not even Carroll Quigley explicitly named it so sensitive was it. But they were the umbrella under which communism and nazism was supported.
The manned space program was everything the US claimed to do before the Space shuttle, but which didnt happen. Including the Apollo Soyuz which was simulated in an american transportplane in full collaboration with the – smiling- cosmonauts.
I suspect Darpa may have assisted in connection with all the simulations. The Russians have, later explained how it was done.
And aulis.com has contributed significantly and recently with some interesting articles about Kubrick and where he simulated the moonproject.
The Soviets captured Apollo13 empty out of the sea and the US came to get it back from them later.
But it wasnt a failure on americas part. They tricked the Soviets into costly expenditure of their limited resources while the US spent everything needed to develop advanced microscircuits and digital computer technology which decided the outcome of the cold war. In addition through generous conditions for hitech export they gave the USSR a chance to capitulate peacefully without losing face. By capitulate I mean the Gorbachev era but I suspect the real decisions were taken by people who understood the technological predicament.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 21 2022 17:22 utc | 164

Posted by: james | Dec 21 2022 16:36 utc | 162
Thanks for this, james. I continue to be very worried about my family. Some are ‘vaccinated’, some not. All are still at risk, I feel. This virus is not acting the way viruses usually do, losing intensity the longer they are around. This is very troubling, and I mentally put it in the same category as nuclear fission.
Stay well, everyone, and continue to be cautious. What we don’t know can hurt us. But so can what we think we know.

Posted by: juliania | Dec 21 2022 17:56 utc | 165

Posted by: bevin | Dec 21 2022 15:08 utc | 161
raccoonburble doesn’t come up on any of my searches.
Link???

Posted by: waynorinorway | Dec 21 2022 18:10 utc | 166

Well, there hasn’t been a new O/T opened up for a while so I hope this doesn’t go unnoticed.
I was hoping to get b’s perspective (and those of you in Germany as well) on this whacked out sounding *alleged* plot to overthrow the German gov’t. Unfortunately it seems to have flown under the radar of most alternative journalism sources in my feed, so all I’ve got to offer are Grauniad and NYT links.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/08/germany-assesses-credibility-of-rightwing-coup-plot-amid-further-arrests
Is this even legitimate? What type of government were the alleged plotters supposedly going to install?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 21 2022 18:28 utc | 167

@ retiredmecheng | Dec 21 2022 16:57 utc | 163
thanks! that is very kind… i wish i was more open then i probably am! but i can try, lolol! we all get attached to things, whether ideas, ideologies, people, places, things and etc. etc.. but i believe we are capable of letting go of our baggage too.. in the end we all die… what exactly do we retain then?? i think its best to remain open minded and tolerant of others – easier said then done.. and as moa reader know, i periodically lose my shit on others here, lol… merry christmas to you retired mecheng.. we are getting hammered with cold weather and a foot of snow prior to christmas here on vanc. island.. it is a bit unusual to say the least!
@ juliania | Dec 21 2022 17:56 utc | 165
thanks juliania.. i hear you and know what you mean, but worrying won’t help any, not that we don’t all do it from time to time.. i got 2 of the vaccine shots when they first came out, but stopped at that.. my sister continues to get the boosters, and my brother who is down in california at the moment, hasn’t got any… it created some tension in our family – especially between my brother and sister. i honestly feel the covid phenom has not been handled very well by the authorities and our gov’t, but it is easy to criticize…it reminds me of this dynamic with regard to ukraine… there is a lot of jumping on a position regardless of taking a closer look at all the parts and how they interact with one another… all the best to you! i am reminded of that gloria gainor song – we will survive!!

Posted by: james | Dec 21 2022 18:52 utc | 168

@ Tom_12 | Dec 21 2022 8:05 utc | 156
Keep in mind that this paper is the work of PRC scientist collaboration.
I get the impression that the authors are saying there is an immediate need to invent new antibody treatments to stay ahead of the mutating virus which is outpacing the currently available antibody cocktails used to treat severe cases.
In China the vaccine types, protocols and treatments for SarsCorona Virus-2 infections are not the same as in big-pharma west where the dominant policy was/is mRNA vaccines which do not prevent transmission as the public was lyingly told by corporate media, political elites and the managerial class.
Of outrageous note here is the head of the US CDC relying on CNN for her understanding that the mRNA vaccine was able to stop transmission which she then conveyed to the public. (What a disgrace. She should step down.)
Nor do the mRNA jabs provide very much absolute effectiveness contrary to the messaging.
Some say the absolute effectiveness of the mRNA jabs is less than 1% and perhaps, at one point in time right after rollout, maybe ~3% compared to the oft-cited relative effectivenessof over 95% at rollout, dropping thereafter due to variants’ immune escape and other factors.
Relative effectiveness as analysed by people in the field can mean in extreme cases doing sample cohort manipulation that one could triumphantly claim that a placebo has a 75% or even a 90 % or more relative effectiveness!
Western pharma allied/dependent experts now advocate mRNA boosters every 6 months, even despite the virus having outevolved the booster configurations. They may give a slight antibody boost to a small number of people who may benefit. These experts, which I am not, have carefully trained tunnel vision imo.
The mRNA jabs are an experimental patented product, an EUA product, that have produced billions in private profit at public expense for which governments have assumed liability while their populations have been subjected to an experiment with unknown results but one with accumulating evidence that there is more harm than benefit — which they are loathe to acknowledge.
The paper referenced suggests that it is possible to predict new Omicron variants’ immune escape structures and bioengineer antibody treatments for people who will need them, mostly the already unhealthy and older people, because herd immunity will not occur with the given vaccines even with China’s inactivated whole-virus jabs. The west will fall further behind in the science imo.
It sounds like you have the causes and conditions for escaping ill health from sarscorona 2. You are fortunate. Many others are not so fortunate. The sarscorona viruses are immune system disregulators so those who become ill are usually more prone to sicknesses until their system has cleared the virus and their immune system has rejuvenated which can take long time, months, even years. For older and unhealthy people this is not so easy and health problems may remain until the complex science of the disregulation and effects is better understood and treated.

Posted by: suzan | Dec 21 2022 19:43 utc | 169

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 21 2022 17:22 utc | 164
why do you think the manned space program didn’t happen? is the earth flat? is China in on the alleged scam? is the Space Shuttle real?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Dec 21 2022 20:02 utc | 170

Here are a few odd links to studies re immune system disregulation and effects :
01 December 2022
Sec. Cardiovascular Epidemiology and Prevention
Mild COVID-19 induces early, quantifiable, persistent troponin I elevations in elder men
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcvm.2022.1053790/full

Pathogens. 2021 Oct; 10(10): 1267.
Uncertainty around the Long-Term Implications of COVID-19
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-0817/10/10/1267

Published: 02 September 2022
Mucosal Immunity After Novel COVID-19 Infection – Virus-Induced Immunosuppression: Preliminary Study
Elena Agafonova, Irina Reshetnikova & Farida Rizvanova 
BioNanoScience
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12668-022-01020-x

Posted by: suzan | Dec 21 2022 20:03 utc | 171

@suzan #169
Good comment. Thank you.

Posted by: S | Dec 21 2022 20:14 utc | 172

@pretzelattack | Dec 21 2022 20:02 utc | 170
The earth is cube shaped so it is flat on 6 sides
Seriously
Space shuttle was real.
China wasnt very much involved but it is claimed that the russian astronaut who, before Gagarin made a couple of turns in orbit was severly injured and was given care in China. In his condition he wasnt suited to be Hero of the USSR so Gagarin was put in action. I am not sure he made three turns(?) but he was more suited for PR
In any case later, the Soyuz crew really went up and fulfilled the criterions.
About the simulated US program:
There is plenty of revealing material on aulis.com
And on manonmoon.ru
The only case where the evidence is less clear is the Mercury project with John Glenn. In that case they point out that there ought to have been more noticeable wear/darkening/destruction of the painted text on the capsule showing that it had been penetrating the athmosphere at high speed and high temperature on the return trip. Those who have looked into the provable capacity of the american series of different rockets doubt they had anything with enough power.
And the Saturn V way underperformed in the uncut private video record of Apollo11. It travelled 7 times too slow and at three times too low altitude when it passed through the clouds which made it possible to get a precise estimate of the speed and height
The opinion of the researchers is that Saturn V didnt exist and what went up was less a powerful rocket and carrying less fuel and an empty capsule.
The russians have analysed recordings from Gemini and concluded that it was simulated in a wind tunnel. Maybe the US deliberately left little clues? (NASA was/is a masonic organisation and masons like to play games no?) Mistake or deliberate but they let it show how a small ribbon attached to the space suite fluttered rapidly as if in a windy environment while they were supposed to be in empty space.
The russians have laid down meticulous work in analysing pictures and convincingly figured out how it was done and so have many of the authors whose works are at aulis.com

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 21 2022 21:02 utc | 173

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Dec 21 2022 21:02 utc | 173
China has carried out several missions to the moon. do you think those are faked? if not, why do you think the US and Russian missions were faked?
I think we have different standards for evaluating evidence.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Dec 21 2022 21:27 utc | 174

@171 suzan | Dec 21 2022 20:03 utc
Thanks for this and earlier comments. It’s a difficult subject to discuss dispassionately, but I never have yet seen any analysis or reporting on why China decided to let the virus run through the country now. We know it was decided before the “protests” but what is the CPC thinking and planning here?
I’m just glad that China is on it, and if the virus evolution is gaining strength – counter to all expectations – then it would seem that “unchaining” it now is part of a plan to defeat it. But I haven’t seen the outline yet.
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As to the western “vaccines”, what seems most clear, and what should have been the fundamental issue of contention with them, is that they are acknowledged to be experimental and yet no one could even dream to claim that the public has received “informed consent” – and without that, it’s clearly Nuremberg territory.

Posted by: Grieved | Dec 21 2022 21:54 utc | 175

IF Kubrick did the moon landing on a set in Hollywood, why didn’t he fess up to it on his death bed? I’m genuinely curious to know what kind of ‘poison pill’ mechanism might’ve kicked in even after he kicked the bucket.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Dec 22 2022 1:00 utc | 176

Hey barflys!
Below is a quote about the Twitter unveiling followed by an occasionally repeated by me listing of the 14 points of Fascism……. you might note number 6 after reading the Taibbi quote

In response to the recent revelations, the FBI told Taibbi that “the FBI regularly engages with private sector entities to provide information specific to identified foreign malign influence actors’ subversive, undeclared, covert, or criminal activities. Private sector entities independently make decisions about what, if any, action they take on their platforms and for their customers after the FBI has notified them.”

14 POINTS OF FASCISM
1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
From the prominent displays of flags and bunting to the ubiquitous lapel pins, the fervor to show patriotic nationalism, both on the part of the regime itself and of citizens caught up in its frenzy, was always obvious. Catchy slogans, pride in the military, and demands for unity were common themes in expressing this nationalism. It was usually coupled with a suspicion of things foreign that often bordered on xenophobia.
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights
The regimes themselves viewed human rights as of little value and a hindrance to realizing the objectives of the ruling elite. Through clever use of propaganda, the population was brought to accept these human rights abuses by marginalizing, even demonizing, those being targeted. When abuse was egregious, the tactic was to use secrecy, denial, and disinformation.
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The methods of choice—relentless propaganda and disinformation—were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite “spontaneous” acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other religions, secularists, homosexuals, and “terrorists.” Active opponents of these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
Ruling elites always identified closely with the military and the industrial infrastructure that supported it. A disproportionate share of national resources was allocated to the military, even when domestic needs were acute. The military was seen as an expression of nationalism, and was used whenever possible to assert national goals, intimidate other nations, and increase the power and prestige of the ruling elite.
5. Rampant sexism
Beyond the simple fact that the political elite and the national culture were male-dominated, these regimes inevitably viewed women as second-class citizens. They were adamantly anti-abortion and also homophobic. These attitudes were usually codified in Draconian laws that enjoyed strong support by the orthodox religion of the country, thus lending the regime cover for its abuses.
6. A controlled mass media
Under some of the regimes, the mass media were under strict direct control and could be relied upon never to stray from the party line. Other regimes exercised more subtle power to ensure media orthodoxy. Methods included the control of licensing and access to resources, economic pressure, appeals to patriotism, and implied threats. The leaders of the mass media were often politically compatible with the power elite. The result was usually success in keeping the general public unaware of the regimes’ excesses.
7. Obsession with national security
Inevitably, a national security apparatus was under direct control of the ruling elite. It was usually an instrument of oppression, operating in secret and beyond any constraints. Its actions were justified under the rubric of protecting “national security,” and questioning its activities was portrayed as unpatriotic or even treasonous.
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together
Unlike communist regimes, the fascist and protofascist regimes were never proclaimed as godless by their opponents. In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves to the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray themselves as militant defenders of that religion. The fact that the ruling elite’s behavior was incompatible with the precepts of the religion was generally swept under the rug. Propaganda kept up the illusion that the ruling elites were defenders of the faith and opponents of the “godless.” A perception was manufactured that opposing the power elite was tantamount to an attack on religion.
9. Power of corporations protected
Although the personal life of ordinary citizens was under strict control, the ability of large corporations to operate in relative freedom was not compromised. The ruling elite saw the corporate structure as a way to not only ensure military production (in developed states), but also as an additional means of social control. Members of the economic elite were often pampered by the political elite to ensure a continued mutuality of interests, especially in the repression of “have-not” citizens.
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
Since organized labor was seen as the one power center that could challenge the political hegemony of the ruling elite and its corporate allies, it was inevitably crushed or made powerless. The poor formed an underclass, viewed with suspicion or outright contempt. Under some regimes, being poor was considered akin to a vice.
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts
Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and the patriotic ideal. Universities were tightly controlled; politically unreliable faculty harassed or eliminated. Unorthodox ideas or expressions of dissent were strongly attacked, silenced, or crushed. To these regimes, art and literature should serve the national interest or they had no right to exist.
12. Obsession with crime and punishment
Most of these regimes maintained Draconian systems of criminal justice with huge prison populations. The police were often glorified and had almost unchecked power, leading to rampant abuse. “Normal” and political crime were often merged into trumped-up criminal charges and sometimes used against political opponents of the regime. Fear, and hatred, of criminals or “traitors” was often promoted among the population as an excuse for more police power.
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption
Those in business circles and close to the power elite often used their position to enrich themselves. This corruption worked both ways; the power elite would receive financial gifts and property from the economic elite, who in turn would gain the benefit of government favoritism. Members of the power elite were in a position to obtain vast wealth from other sources as well: for example, by stealing national resources. With the national security apparatus under control and the media muzzled, this corruption was largely unconstrained and not well understood by the general population.
14. Fraudulent elections
Elections in the form of plebiscites or public opinion polls were usually bogus. When actual elections with candidates were held, they would usually be perverted by the power elite to get the desired result. Common methods included maintaining control of the election machinery, intimidating and disenfranchising opposition voters, destroying or disallowing legal votes, and, as a last resort, turning to a judiciary beholden to the power elite.
NOTE: The above 14 Points were written in 2004 by Dr. Laurence Britt, a political scientist. Dr. Britt studied the fascist regimes of: Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile).

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 22 2022 1:58 utc | 177

Posted by: Grieved | Dec 21 2022 21:54 utc | 175
One can only guess at the reasoning behind the CPC change of strategy regarding Covid, but mine is that principally it can be summed up in one word: Omicron.
I suspect that most people outside China are unaware that once Wuhan was settled in early 2020, there were no instances of any significance here until early this year. We lived absolutely normal lives with no restrictions for more than a year and a half while the rest of the world was going through hell. The strategy was working perfectly. Throughout this year however it has been whack-a-mole and we have been subjected to recurrent periods of local lockdowns, of daily testing regimes, travel restrictions, intermittent closures of all sorts of facilities…
It was becoming clear that the strategy was no longer working because of the much higher (x10?) infectiousness of the newer variants. People while nominally supporting the measures were nevertheless getting pissed off, there seemed no end to it, businesses were failing, shops were going out of business, and the mood in the country no doubt was transmitted up the administrative chain. It was now obvious that zero Covid was a lost cause and the only option was to let it rip in the hope that the lower mortality rate of the current variants would get the administration off the hook. I can’t know for certain but that’s my take.
And so here we are. Having wished for an end to the special measures and finally every last one has been removed, now paradoxically with the disease absolutely rampant we find ourselves in voluntary lockdown because it is unsafe to venture out into closed spaces, but that’s a topic for another China Covid report in due course. The situation is evolving.

Posted by: Walt | Dec 22 2022 2:04 utc | 178

A bit late – Gravy Day was yesterday – but here’s a sad and lovely Christmas song from Paul Kelly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOWtK6HYCSE
And here it is again, from Eastern Goldfields Prison, in Pitjtantjantjara:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-21/how-to-make-gravy-goldfields-edition/101795028

Posted by: Hope | Dec 22 2022 2:16 utc | 179

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 22 2022 1:58 utc | 177
I’d say the UK meets 9 or 10 of those markers. What’s the pass mark?
BTW Thanks for your support elsewhere.

Posted by: Walt | Dec 22 2022 2:23 utc | 180

suzan #169
Thank you for your comments and info.
I have just discovered Jessica at Canadian Patriot Press. 7 minute intro utoob.
https://substack.com/profile/40349025-jessica-rose
Here is a brief bio from Voice for Science and Solidarity

“Dr. Jessica Rose is a Canadian researcher with a Bachelor’s Degree in Applied Mathematics and a Master’s degree in Immunology from Memorial University of Newfoundland. She also holds a PhD in Computational Biology from Bar Ilan University and 2 Post Doctoral degrees: one in Molecular Biology from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and one in Biochemistry from the Technion Institute of Technology. She was also accepted for a 2-month program as a senior researcher at the Weizmann Institute prior to completion of her latest post doctoral degree at the Technion. Her more recent research efforts are aimed at descriptive analysis of the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) data in efforts to make this data accessible to the public.”

I have worked with mathematicians and science people often and the combination produces profound insights at times. Perhaps this one has the chemistry to reveal stuff too.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 22 2022 2:32 utc | 181

Walt #all
Thanks for your contributions. It is good to hear from the China comrades.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 22 2022 2:36 utc | 182

@ Walt | Dec 22 2022 2:04 utc | 178 with the China Covid report about the evolving situation and the historical context of the evolution….thanks
I asked you to continue reporting the China Covid situation and your are doing it well, IMO, thanks again
I think China’s response is how you want your government to operate. Their position so far has saved untold lives where millions have died elsewhere. Responding to the facts of Omicron, as you point out, has forced a change in government strategy that is being managed as best they can and we will see the results…..but will the West learn from the example?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 22 2022 2:40 utc | 183

@ Grieved | Dec 21 2022 21:54 utc | 175
My guess is the methods used to successfully contain the earlier variants in China no longer “work” for Omicron because it transmits so fast and the lowered pathogenicity of Omicron make now seem an auspicious time for opening.*
You are so right about the lack of informed consent for the EUA products. How is informed consent even possible when the trial data is not made available for independent evaluation? And now, after several years after use, that data is not available for independent evaluation due to patient ‘privacy’ concerns. What a racket and worse.
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*The R value of current omicron variants are ~ 10+ people infected by every carrier, about 30-40% of whom are asymptomatic. Transmittance occurs with Omicron within 1-2 days iirc. (This compares to an R naught value of ~2.3 for Delta with 5-7 days to transmit iirc.)
There’s widespread vaccination in China and 2nd boosters are being offered to the elderly and immune compromised. NK95 mask wearing is norm in close spaces there I believe. There are also other measures in place. Lots of planning and preparation. Plus China’s health service is public, not privatized, so they are more empowered to problem solve in the public’s best interests. I read one comment from a China netizen saying dietary supplements to boost immune system has been in place but just an anecdote.

Posted by: suzan | Dec 22 2022 3:10 utc | 184

@ Walt | Dec 22 2022 2:04 utc | 178
Thanks so much for your updates and your other postings at the bar. Can I get you a glass of pear nectar?

Posted by: suzan | Dec 22 2022 3:16 utc | 185

@ psychohistorian | 183
“but will the West learn from the example?” China.
Claus Schwab also wants the West to learn from the PRC: 1984 2.0 via mobile phones, cctv, facial recognition, multi databases, pass codes. WEF money is abundant for their cogs.
You want the West to copy China in first 3 years lockdown followed by mass infection spread? Those two PRC “policies” were both cover ups on the fly for earlier CPC failures: 1) allowing GOF research in Wuhan and 2) covering up the outbreak of Omicrons before the 20th Party Congress in Beijing by letting it rip just after (not much choice there anyway).
The hysteria, overstretch of medical personal, chaos will certainly kill Chinese, guess who? The weak elderly – shock! Why was Chinese medical infrastructure not enhanced during 3 years? Why they didn’t learn anything from the Western mistakes with mRNA experiments etc?
Don’t worry about Walt, his bu$ine$$ will thrive again next year. Better help an Elon Musk who took on the Anglo KingKong at home while losing money to the PRC Godzilla.

Posted by: Antonym | Dec 22 2022 3:24 utc | 186

@ uncle tungsten | Dec 22 2022 2:32 utc | 181
I will check that out. Thanks. You bring so many great links to the bar. Apricot nectar for you.

Posted by: suzan | Dec 22 2022 3:26 utc | 187

suzan #187
Thank you, I LOVE apricot nectar and all other things apricot.
Badlands media looks at twitter FBI.
https://rumble.com/v21013m-badlands-live-coverage-of-the-twitter-files-the-fbi-subsidiary.html

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 22 2022 3:32 utc | 188

@ Grieved | 175
“I never have yet seen any analysis or reporting on why China decided to let the virus run through the country now. We know it was decided before the “protests” but what is the CPC thinking and planning here?”
Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpNpZc9dWLs
In a nutshell: the real reason why Xi Jinping did a 180-degree U turn on “zero-covid” on December 7th: in Beijing before the 20th Party congress already hospitals were having many “positive” cases. To avoid a ruckus they reported zero patients as Covid positive and gave other diagnoses, plus didn’t allow medical personal to go home. Now after the Congress the U turn is perfect to hide that sheniganism. Medical staff is totally overworked – like they were in the west 2 years prior – due to the mass hysteria. Chinese craving for tylerol / ibuprofen to suppress The natural infection reaction called fever, clueless. No patience creates many patients. Old people dying: a novelty, a proof!

Posted by: Antonym | Dec 22 2022 3:35 utc | 189

suzan #187
Thank you apricot nectar always appreciated.
I sent an earlier response but I fear the goblins ate it because it contained a banned link substance.
See Badlands media on Rumble too. Treasures abound there and Jessica Rose co hosts bits and pieces there. No link as it enrages goblins.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 22 2022 3:36 utc | 190

China Covid report 12 noon local time
Road and pedestrian traffic is back to near normal. What we gather is that with no effective quarantine control in place, the population is splitting into two tendencies. Those with/recovering from Covid who don’t give a damn and are circulating as normal: we are aware of one bar holder with minor illness who carried on working throughout. The other segment, mainly the uninfected (including our household) is largely in voluntary semi-lockdown. The lock on our apartment door this morning has jammed in sympathy trapping us in.
Here are two very brief clips from the Hong Kong based South China Morning Post this morning. Just about one and a half minutes each.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bqnXCPBh3o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntdllehGBR4
The second video says that since the easing of restrictions and as of 20 December according to official statistics there have been seven deaths. Cases with underlying symptoms are not reported.
Posted by: suzan | Dec 22 2022 3:16 utc | 185 : Cheers!

Posted by: Walt | Dec 22 2022 4:03 utc | 191

@ Walt:
the SCMP was owned by Alibaba Jack Ma who had to flee to Japan; these videos are on Youtube, heavily censored in the PRC.
China’s rich are trying to escape paradi$e or long gone but the $mall fry are trapped behind their apartment doors.

Posted by: Antonym | Dec 22 2022 5:09 utc | 192

Would somebody open a window?

Posted by: Walt | Dec 22 2022 5:18 utc | 193

Good information flowing – many thanks. TIP: ignore the troll rigorously and the high-quality info will continue to flow (argue or engage in any way and the flow will diminish – very simple equation).
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I second the Jessica Rose cite. She and Tess Lawrie seem to be the two top analysts of the numbers involved in this situation, with Lawrie’s meta analyses that were the first in the field, and Rose’s ongoing monitoring of the USA’s VAERS system – which is being tampered with and redacted lately.
Lawrie has her fabulous video about Andrew Hill lying about Ivermectin at the behest of Pharma, that breaks me up every time I watch it: “Who Is Influencing You?” – Dr. Tess Lawrie’s Zoom Call With Dr. Andrew Hill [VIDEO]
And Rose is going deep into the vaccines, even into the rabbit hole, but she covers the documented harms – at her Unacceptable Jessica substack as cited above by uncle tungsten (circa #181).
And this interview that some people spent 3 hours of their lives watching back in the days of putting the lies and truths in their right place: Jessica Rose: VAERS, Myocarditis, COVID Vaccines, and So Much More
You can slice out for yourself what suits you, but it’s all there.

Posted by: Grieved | Dec 22 2022 5:44 utc | 194

Walt #192
“Would somebody open a window?”
I have asked the goddess to send a tornado.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 22 2022 5:47 utc | 195

Grieved #193
Many thanks brother. Tess Lawrie has been consistent informant.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 22 2022 5:51 utc | 196

@ Walt | Dec 22 2022 4:03 utc | 190 with the China Covid report…thanks
Seven deaths is low, if accurate and it is early yet but encouraging
A friend just reported to me this evening that her husband has Covid and I think this is his 2nd experience plus he has had the mRNA jabs….

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 22 2022 6:11 utc | 197

Below is a Xinhuanet posting about China/Iran relations

BANDAR ABBAS, Iran, Dec. 21 (Xinhua) — China’s Consulate General in Bandar Abbas was officially opened on Wednesday in the capital of Hormuzgan Province on the southern coast of Iran, marking the establishment of China’s first consulate general in Iran.
In his address to the official opening of the consulate general, Chinese Ambassador to Iran Chang Hua hailed the consulate general in Bandar Abbas as a fresh “landmark moment in China-Iran relations.”
This move will deepen China’s mutually beneficial cooperation with southern Iran and bear more fruits of the China-Iran friendship, he added.
The Chinese diplomatic missions in Iran, Chang noted, stand ready to work with the Iranian side to take the opening of the consulate general as an opportunity to actively implement the comprehensive cooperation plans between the two countries, make joint efforts to Belt and Road Initiative and deliver more cooperation outcomes.
Meanwhile, Adel Shahrzad, deputy governor of Hormuzgan province, said during his speech that Iran’s southern provinces look forward to cooperating with china, adding that the opening of the Chinese consulate general will play an important role in developing bilateral relations and enhancing exchanges in various fields.
The area of responsibility of China’s Consulate General in Bandar Abbas includes eight Iranian provinces in the south, namely Khuzestan province, Chaharmahal and Bakhtiari province, Kohgiluyeh and Boyer-Ahmad province, Fars province, Bushehr province, Kerman province, Hormuzgan province, Sistan and Baluchestan province.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 22 2022 6:53 utc | 198

Below is a quote from a Xinuanet posting about the sixth China-Australia Foreign and Strategic Dialogue meeting between China and Australia FMs
The quote is from the Australian Foreign Minister Penny Wong which seems to say that AU is not a total toady since they support the One-China policy in words anyway……

Wong said the principles of mutual respect, equality, mutual benefit and peaceful coexistence set by Australia and China when establishing diplomatic ties have played an important role in promoting the development of bilateral relations.
A stable and constructive Australia-China relationship serves the interests of the two countries and the region. The new Australian government adheres to the one-China policy, properly manages rather than magnifies the differences between the two countries, and restores and develops communication and exchanges in various fields under the framework of the Australia-China comprehensive strategic partnership, Wong said
In a joint outcomes statement issued after the dialogue, the two sides agreed to maintain high-level engagement, commence or restart dialogue in areas including bilateral relations, trade and economic issues, and regional and international issues, and support people-to-people exchanges.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 22 2022 7:01 utc | 199

Below are quotes from a Xinhuanet posting that details the vaccines available in China

The inhalable version is an adenovirus type 5 vector-based vaccine. It has an inhaled dose of 0.1 milliliter, only about a fifth of a traditional intramuscular vaccine dose, and compared with injection, it can induce one more type of immune response — mucosal immunity.
The inhalable vaccine was approved as a booster shot for people who have been inoculated with two doses of inactivated vaccines for a period of six months or longer. It is among the vaccine types which were approved by the Chinese government for inoculators to get boosted against COVID-19.
As the epidemic continues to rage, China has steadily promoted booster inoculation for the public by providing an increasing number of vaccine types to ensure people’s health and safety.
According to the State Council, all vaccines approved for conditional marketing or emergency use can be offered as a second booster dose to certain groups who had received their first booster more than six months ago.
The vaccines include this inhalable vaccine, several injectable recombinant vaccines developed by biotech companies such as CanSino Biologics and Anhui Zhifei Longcom Biopharmaceutical Co., Ltd., and an intranasal vaccine.
The intranasal drug is a live-attenuated influenza vaccine given through the nose. It was jointly developed by Xiamen University, the University of Hong Kong and Beijing Wantai Biological Pharmacy Enterprise, and has been proven to be safe and effective in human trials.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 22 2022 7:07 utc | 200