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November 7, 2022
Ukraine – U.S. Deceives Allies To Keep Them In Line

The Biden administration launched a make-believe campaign that is supposed to calm those European 'allies' who press for peace talks over  Ukraine.

But, as the Washington Post provides, the alleged Biden push towards negotiations is a sham:

The Biden administration is privately encouraging Ukraine’s leaders to signal an openness to negotiate with Russia and drop their public refusal to engage in peace talks unless President Vladimir Putin is removed from power, according to people familiar with the discussions.

The request by American officials is not aimed at pushing Ukraine to the negotiating table, these people said. Rather, they called it a calculated attempt to ensure the government in Kyiv maintains the support of other nations facing constituencies wary of fueling a war for many years to come.

While U.S. officials share their Ukrainian counterparts’ assessment that Putin, for now, isn’t serious about negotiations, they acknowledge that President Volodymyr Zelensky’s ban on talks with him has generated concern in parts of Europe, Africa and Latin America, where the war’s disruptive effects on the availability and cost of food and fuel are felt most sharply.

If Zelensky will now start to offer talks we know that it will not be serious but just for show.

National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan has just visited Kiev. He is likely the one who has put up this scheme. It would be consistent with another recent story planted in the Wall Street Journal about talks between Sullivan and some Russians:

National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan has in recent months held secret talks with high-level Russian officials, The Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday, citing unnamed US and allied officials.

The officials said that the talks were aimed at reducing the risk of the war in Ukraine turning into a broader conflict and that Sullivan warned Moscow against using nuclear weapons. They said Sullivan held talks with Yuri Ushakov, a foreign policy advisor to Russian President Vladimir Putin, and the secretary of the Russian Security Council, Nikolai Patrushev.

The reason to plant that story is likely the same one as above – to calm down allies who are getting nervous about an endless war.

It is obvious that the U.S. does not want the war to end anytime soon:

The U.S. is sending Ukraine $400 million more in military aid and establishing a security assistance headquarters in Germany that will oversee all weapons transfers and military training for Ukraine, the Pentagon announced Friday.

The new command post, called the Security Assistance Group Ukraine, signals a more permanent, long-term program to continue to aid Kyiv in its fight against Russia, Pentagon spokeswoman Sabrina Singh told reporters at the Pentagon.

The new command post that will oversee this aid will be led by a three-star-level senior officer and have about 300 personnel based in Germany who will monitor the weapons assistance and training programs, said U.S. Army Europe spokesman Col. Martin O’Donnell.

Such a command points to an effort over multiple years. Likewise some of the weapon systems the U.S. has promised to Ukraine have not yet been produced. They will reach Ukraine only 2023 or 2024 – if ever.

But I doubt that this plan for a years long war can work. Russia's recent attack on the electricity systems of Ukraine has shown that it has the escalation dominance, that it could do much more to destroy Ukraine and to make it incapable of further pursuing the war.

The U.S. is also pushing Ukraine to attack the Russian positions on the right bank of the Dnieper river:

Ukrainian forces can retake the strategic southern city of Kherson from Russian troops, US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said on Thursday, in what would be a major defeat for Russia in its invasion of its neighbor.

Austin’s remarks coincided with a Russian-installed official in Kherson region saying Moscow was likely to pull its troops from the west bank of the Dnipro River, signaling a significant retreat, if confirmed.

“On the issue of whether the Ukrainians can take the remaining territory on the west side of the Dnipro river and in Kherson, I certainly believe that they have the capability to do that,” Austin told a news conference at the Pentagon.

“Most importantly, the Ukrainians believe they have the capability to do that. We have seen them engage in a very methodical but effective effort to take back their sovereign territory.”

There are also rumors from Ukraine that Sullivan has pressed Zelensky to launch a Kherson campaign as soon as possible. Zelensky is said to have agreed to do so.

But the Ukrainian army does not want to do that – at least not now. The Russian troops in the area have been reinforced. The fields are muddy and can not be crossed by heavy vehicles. Russian artillery attacks destroy equipment pre-positioned for the attack before it is ready to come near the front line.

The Ukrainian military has for weeks tried probing attacks in the Kherson region. These had no significant results while the attacking units had high losses. The units deployed around the region have been there since early October or longer. The Military Land deployment map shows only one unit that arrived just five days ago. The 98th Azov battalion, one of the fascist volunteer forces, has been positioned in the back of 128th Mountain Assault Brigade which, in recent weeks, has had some of the most serious losses.


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The use of such 'nationalist' forces to prevent the retreat of exhausted front line units has been a regular occurrence in this war.

Ukraine has for weeks had no success on the battle field. Washington wants it to show such a success so that it can tell its allies that the war can be won by the Ukrainian side. The push for an attack on Kherson is again part of the overall campaign to convince Europeans that they should sustain the efforts to arm and support Ukraine.

The campaign is misleading. Ukraine is losing the war badly. But the U.S. wants to fight Russia down to the last Ukrainian – and down to the last Euro.

Comments

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 7 2022 19:55 utc | 60

If Dems lose everything will come at a price for Biden. Expect potential impeachment for no other reason than as payback for Trump and the required maintaining of GOP self respect.

Donning cynic’s hat:
1. If R’s convincingly win both House and Senate, they will disappoint by saying something like ‘we believe our duty to the American people who elected us is to work constructively with the Administration not conduct partisan witch hunts etc.’
2. If they win only House or win with many RINO’s in the mix, then they might instigate impeachment but only in the certainty that it won’t go anywhere and the issues they raise therein won’t dig deep or thus reveal anything substantive. A waste, in other words.
I do not believe that any substantive change can come from those elected via the federal elections process which is extremely corrupt. But I also hope that this is an overly jaundiced view and that ‘saving America’ is still possible.

Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 7 2022 22:52 utc | 101

[86] ne of the British Navy’s Vanguard-class nuclear submarines was forced to abort a “top secret mission” after it sustained fire damage, according to a Sunday article published by The Sun.
Top secret mission is alert patrol? And what do the Russians have to do with an electrical fire on a British submarine at sea?

Posted by: Bill Smith | Nov 7 2022 22:52 utc | 102

Can someone tell me how the Russian airforce is going? In all honesty I hear very little about it. Is that a conscious choice by Russia not to use it ,or is it because cheap Stingers and Manpads really have grounded the use of planes?

Posted by: Brother Ma | Nov 7 2022 22:56 utc | 103

@Brother Ma 104
Good question. Where is the Russian air force?
One specific question in that regard is why can’t they drop leaflets telling the 2500 remaining civilians in Avdiivka to get out within two days, then drop bunker buster bombs on the Ukraine fortifications that allow them to keep shelling Donetsk?

Posted by: OdessaConnected | Nov 7 2022 23:03 utc | 104

Weird item from Italian paper La Repubblica on Monday (in Tass): “US, NATO believe talks on Ukraine possible if Kiev takes Kherson”
https://tass.com/politics/1533195 .
“According to the paper, Washington is in constant contact with Brussels and its allies on this issue as well as instilling this idea into the mind of the Kiev regime. The return of Kherson, a strategic target from the point of view of gaining sea access and control over water resources may change the course of the conflict and when the city is taken it will be possible to hold negotiations from the position of force. According to the newspaper, this is the first time that the White House allowed for such a specific scenario. According to the article, this is caused by two aspects. The first one is the alleged threat, however remote, of Russia using tactical nuclear weapons which would require a large-scale response. The second one is China’s expanded influence on Russia. According to the newspaper, a complete defeat of Russia’s leader Vladimir Putin whose regime change is no longer discussed as one of the options would lead to worse consequences for the US such as Russia falling under China’s full control.”
Evidently at least some people in Washingtopn think that Kherson is likely to fall, which might lead to the complete defeat of Mr. Putin, regime change in Russia, Russia falling under China’s “full control.” Wishful thinking on all counts of course, except possibly the first, if Russian can’t mobilize, train, equip, and deploy reinforcements there fast enough to prevent it. But seems to reflect the thinking (daydreaming ?) of at least some in the U.S. administration. After which an armistice could be negotiated.

Posted by: Seward | Nov 7 2022 23:03 utc | 105

Bill Smith @ 103
Top secret mission is alert patrol? And what do the Russians have to do with an electrical fire on a British submarine at sea?
Ah… it wasn’t really an electrical fire like the Moskva wasn’t really an ammunition explosion. But, yes, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
If it was the Ruskies pretty clever to go after a sub instead of a ship, all out of sight. Publicly invisible payback, allow the UK a way to avoid an escalation which in this case if their public was aware would require a declaration of war.
If it is true now expect a childish tit-for-tat idiot reprisal from the Brits until the Russians sink an aircraft carrier and then it really will be WW3.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 7 2022 23:10 utc | 106

B9k9 | Nov 7 2022 22:50 utc | 101
You would make a good carpenter. Many nails hit squarely/problems nailed in that post.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 7 2022 23:11 utc | 107

@Seward 106
Related to my comment in #105, does Russia have any bombers that are safe from Ukraine’s anti-aircraft missile systems? If so, it seems they could bomb the build up of troops and equipment that are staging close to Kherson.
If Russia doesn’t have any such bombers, do they have missiles that can accomplish the same objective?
It doesn’t seem that Russia is doing anything other than waiting for the assault on their positions on the right bank. If you listen to Scott Ritter, he acts like the war is essentially over, that when the ground freezes, Russian tanks will roll through the Ukraine troops and go all the way to Odessa, and Ukraine will unconditionally surrender. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Posted by: OdessaConnected | Nov 7 2022 23:18 utc | 108

Anon | Nov 7 2022 16:21 utc | 6
“……nations that have been more squeamish about providing military aid such as Australia”
Fuck off.
Australia “outranks” Spain, Italy, + most of Europe in donated military aid.
Excuse my blood pressure, but if Russia is so very very very very dangerous….then every European country should be well ahead of us in the charity queue.
We just sent 30 more Bushmasters to be scrap metal in some farmers field ….
€€ we outrank France, Slovakia, Lithuania Netherlands, Greece Italy Belgium Spain Luxembourg Slovenia Finland Croatia New Zealand Portugal Bulgaria South Korea Austria and Romania.
We aren’t in NATO.. and given the belligerence of NATO and countries like Finland…. Grrrrrrgh 🤬🤬🤬🤬🇺🇦
Source: Antezza et al (2022) “The Ukraine support tracker” Kiel WP
ifw-kiel-de/ukrainetracker
$$$- Bushmaster armored car transferred from Australia demilitarised by Russian special forces in the Donbass in an ambush.
(Australia plans to send 30 more to AFU)
https://t.me/azmilitary11/27889
https://twitter.com/SprinterMonitor/status/1589394572039589889?cxt=HHwWgsDUpaf81I4sAAAA
https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1589349916157284352?cxt=HHwWgMDQhf_UwI4sAAAA
The British MRAP Mastiff demilitarised in an ambush…
(With Australia, everything is a competition with the poms)

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 7 2022 23:24 utc | 109

Brother Ma @ 104 / OdessaConnected @ 105
Their heavy bombers can only be used as missile launch platforms from a far distance, in some areas their fighter bombers and helicopters are working but always from a distance launching missiles, or so fast in and out as to be inaccurate. New style of war, tanks and planes are too vulnerable in 2022. Welcome to the age of drones. Take your dystopian pick, Borg future or Terminator future.
Lots of good questions in this SMO. Just saw footage of Russians taking the Donesk airport – after 8 months. It’s an airport IOW a huge open field, and in this case full of URK entrenchments, but still a big open field, no buildings, no civilians. Why was this not cleared with MOABs months ago? But hey, I’m just a lawn chair private.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 7 2022 23:28 utc | 110

@Allan Kaplan | Nov 7 2022 17:24 utc | 29
The first draft of the protocols emerged in 1858 just when Bismarck consulted the Rothschilds and the deal they made helped finance Bismarcks unification of Germany.
The draft came out in bookform around the time when the leader of freemasonry, Lord Palmerston died in 1865.
It is believed that it was a masonic operation from the beginning.
And the Russian role was that Sergei Nilus, a freemason, brought together older fragments and the work happening during 1901-1904. It was translated by Edward VIIs associate and registered in the British museum around 1906. In 1907 Edward told a Rothschild that they wouldnt be welcome unless his conditions were fulfilled.
By that time Edward VII was the leader of freemasonry and Palmerston had mentored him from a young age
Palmerston and Edward VII during their time where the superiors of the masonic bankers and the financiers would simply follow their instructions. Disobedience would mean death penalty.
It may be the case that Jack The Ripper, which was a masonic message in 1888, was a warning to the Rothschild clan.
A warning to the canonical five branches of that clan in the form of the ritual murders of the five canonical victims of Ripper.
If there was no threat they might have preferred peace and joint ventures with Germany and other nations under fair conditions – not giving Britain a priviledged status.
Britain knew what they themselves were planning together with their financiers and attributed it to a separate jewish-led conspiracy.
Britain leading freemasonry gave them a significant advantage for perception management

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Nov 7 2022 23:29 utc | 111

jhill | Nov 7 2022 17:00 utc | 23
“……the 101st Airborne was heralded as keeping the wavering Central Europeans in line.”
Huh?
“Heralded by who? When ?”
Source this ascertain please

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 7 2022 23:34 utc | 112

IMO, Crooke redeemed himself from last week’s poor result, “Stumbling Towards ‘Principled’ Armageddon”. Recall, his previous effort proclaimed “They Rule Over Dysfunctional Ruin, but They Rule”, which he links to in his concluding paragraph,
“However, Biden’s Washington apparently is not disposed to hear. It seems determined to show that ‘it rules’ — even if that means to rule over ruins (i.e. Europe), as Biden stumbles towards his ‘principled’ Armageddon to save the “liberal order”.”
Crooke appears to have awakened and writes a few gems like this one:
“This cycle is ending precisely because the rest of the world sees it as ‘naked’ — a naked Emperor — a grasping primacy, justified through self-attributed superiority, that once may have held some validity, but which today has descended into narcissism and sociopathy — woke anti-culture and weaponised dysfunctionality — used as coercive tools by which to ‘rule’.”
Someone earlier today mentioned cycles and I thought then of posting a comment that linked Crooke to it, but something happened to change that idea. Since he’s back to his usual rhythm of writing short preliminary essays for al-Mayadeen then having its more expansive version published at Strategic Culture, I hope his SCF effort will soon prove my hypothesis correct. Touching on temporal and historical cycles IMO is quite proper, although I don’t expect Crooke will go as far as Vico.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 7 2022 23:39 utc | 113

Lots of good questions in this SMO. Just saw footage of Russians taking the Donesk airport – after 8 months. It’s an airport IOW a huge open field, and in this case full of URK entrenchments, but still a big open field, no buildings, no civilians. Why was this not cleared with MOABs months ago? But hey, I’m just a lawn chair private.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 7 2022 23:28 utc | 111
The Russians and DPR took took Donetsk airport 8 years ago and it has been under DPR control since, not sure what you are referring too? Is the footage you are watching many years old?

Posted by: Haassaan | Nov 7 2022 23:41 utc | 114

Telegram channels have been reporting that Polish mercs near where Azov is being deployed have been refusing to follow near suicidal orders. Should be interesting the next few weeks…

Posted by: Colonel Applewhite | Nov 7 2022 23:45 utc | 115

Can someone tell me how the Russian airforce is going? In all honesty I hear very little about it. Is that a conscious choice by Russia not to use it ,or is it because cheap Stingers and Manpads really have grounded the use of planes?
Posted by: Brother Ma | Nov 7 2022 22:56 utc | 104
Ukraine still has lots of S-300 and Buk systems along with MANPADS of which the old Soviet made Igla stuff has been outperforming the western made MANPADS.
Russia cannot fly heavy bombers over Ukrainian held territory. Fighter/bombers like su-24 can penetrate Ukrainian airspace at low altitudes, but only 20-30 miles in at most, and at high risk.

Posted by: Haassaan | Nov 7 2022 23:45 utc | 116

Brother Ma | Nov 7 2022 22:56 utc | 104
Re RuSF.
According to Konashenkov’s reports, each day he cites the RuAF flew xx sorties and destroyed xx?
Of course, because anything the Russian military states has been immediately disregarded as “nonsense” and “propaganda” from Hour1, Day1, no one other than telegram carries the tallies.
If and when a Russian plane or heli is shot down, the western media has its headlines for the next week, (month).
So, to answer. The Russians say their airforce works effectively every day.
And the west laughs and mocks.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 7 2022 23:48 utc | 117

Haassaan @ 115

The Russians and DPR took took Donetsk airport 8 years ago and it has been under DPR control since, not sure what you are referring too? Is the footage you are watching many years old?

I too thought it was taken 8 years ago, apparently it’s been getting kicked back and forth.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/19140

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 7 2022 23:53 utc | 118

Still, the main issue is whether Putin and the rest of the Russian leadership are going to let their hatred of waging war on Ukrainians and dreams of a peaceful settlement yield them endless war with Western Ukraine.
It should be clear to anyone who is not a useful idiot at this point that the US and UK are eager to drag this out as long as they can.
Does Putin really want endless war and terrorism in the Ukraine to be his legacy? If not, he needs to wrap this up asap.

Posted by: My Comment | Nov 7 2022 23:55 utc | 119

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 7 2022 22:37 utc | 95
Yes, Sunak running out of the conference is pretty certain it was related to the submarine incident. We won’t know for sure, but UK has been for a long time been radically overstepping into leagues it doesn’t comprehend, and sooner or later some kind of punch back to the nose is / was inevitably coming.
I wouldn’t be surprised if some kind of small underwater drone simply rammed it. Of course it could be anything. Chinese has underwater submarine hunting drones (HSU-001), why wouldn’t Russia…

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 7 2022 23:59 utc | 120

The Russians and DPR took took Donetsk airport 8 years ago and it has been under DPR control since, not sure what you are referring too? Is the footage you are watching many years old?
I too thought it was taken 8 years ago, apparently it’s been getting kicked back and forth.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/19140
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 7 2022 23:53 utc | 119
Nope, it never has left Russian hands.
It has been periodically shelled by Ukrainian forces with some skirmishes taking place near the airport.
In fact, recently DPR/Russia pushed the Ukrainians back a few miles SW of the airport.

Posted by: Haassaan | Nov 8 2022 0:00 utc | 121

Re: British Sub incident speculation…
According to the ever reliable British media stenographers, this incident happened 6 weeks ago and was just reported today.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1693497/royal-navy-submarine-hms-victorious-abort-mission-fire-breaks-out-russia-news

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Nov 8 2022 0:10 utc | 122

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 7 2022 22:47 utc | 100
From my indirect observations, the problem goes beyond Deep State. The rules of conduct in D.C. calcified to total rigidity, gone are the days when POTUS could reach a conclusion to, say, solve Missile Crisis and implement quickly, with only minor deprecations heard (although a key concession was secret). Today there are innumerable taboos that would have to be broken to pull out something like that.
Stephen Cohen stated exactly this and noted how extremely dangerous it is.

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From The Secret Team by Fletcher Prouty and Jesse Ventura 2011:

On this particular night there had been a heavy raid on Rotterdam. He sat there, meditating, and then, as if to himself, he said, “Unrestricted submarine warfare, unrestricted air bombing—this is total war.” He continued sitting there, gazing at a large map, and then said, “Time and the Ocean and some guiding star and High Cabal have made us what we are.”

John Kennedy rode into office on the shoulders of strong CIA support, re-appointed Allen Dulles and J. Edgar Hoover, and then crashed against the beaches of Cuba with the leaderless Bay of Pigs operational disaster. This episode, coming as it did at the very threshold of his term, awakened him abruptly to the stark realities, gross ineptitude, and sudden dangers of secret operations; and it caused him to study with great care what had gone wrong and where the inherent dangers lay. Supreme Court Justice William 0. Douglas recalling a discussion he and Kennedy had about the Bay of Pigs said, “This episode seared him. He had experienced the extreme power that these groups had, these various insidious influences of the CIA and the Pentagon on civilian policy, and I think it raised in his own mind the specter: Can Jack Kennedy, President of the United States, ever be strong enough to really rule these two powerful agencies? I think it had a profound effect . . . it shook him up!”
The eminent, experienced, and wise Supreme Court Justice states the problem precisely when he says, “Can . . . the President of the United States ever be strong enough to really rule these two powerful agencies?” Can any President learn about, comprehend, and then believe what he has learned about this whole covert and complex subject? Can any President see in this vast mechanism, in which there is so much that is untrue and hidden, the heart and core of the real problem? Will any President be prepared to confront this staggering realization when and if he does uncover it? Is this perhaps the great discovery which President Kennedy made, or was about to make? It is not just the CIA and the DOD that are involved. It is also the FBI, the AEC, the DIA, elements of State and of the Executive Office Building, NSA and the hidden pulse of secret power coursing through almost every area of the body politic. It extends beyond into governmental business, the academic world, and certain very influential sectors of the press, radio, TV, papers, magazines, and the publishing business. Before any President can rule this covert automatic control system, he must find out it is there—he must be aware of the fact it exists—and he must devise some means to discover its concealed activity.

Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 8 2022 0:11 utc | 123

What’s the point of the Wapo article? Isn’t it an announcement of duplicity for any Allie’s to recognize they’re being conned? How is it helpful to publish that?

Posted by: Hickory | Nov 8 2022 0:13 utc | 124

Posted by: Seward | Nov 7 2022 23:03 utc | 106
Weird item from Italian paper La Repubblica on Monday (in Tass): “US, NATO believe talks on Ukraine possible if Kiev takes Kherson”
https://tass.com/politics/1533195 .
Which one is more conducive to talk? Russia takes Kiev or Ukraine takes Kherson?

Posted by: KitaySupporter | Nov 8 2022 0:14 utc | 125

B9k9 @ 101

If the Russians can make a deal to have greater control within the dollar system, using their irreplaceable mineral wealth as a bargaining chip, I’d say it would be near damn impossible to have the people reject that offer outright in exchange for perpetual war.

Wasn’t that the deal the Russians thought they signed up for in 1991? Unfortunately they must have never watched any cowboy and indian movies, especially the revisionist ones made in the 1960s and ’70s like Little Big Man and Soldier Blue. Russia’s western partners have been agreement incapable since at least the Norman Invasion not since 2014.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 8 2022 0:18 utc | 126

Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 8 2022 0:11 utc | 124
Thanks for that excerpt. I never really pondered that last part much before. It’s true – the Pentagon and CIA have, I don’t know if “infiltrated” is even the right word for it, co-opted the media and social media. Has there ever been a case of a President flouting them on something and unfavorable press coverage planted w/ in the Mighty Wurlitzer to hurt him or bring him in line?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 8 2022 0:21 utc | 127

re jfk, #124 above
there was one adviser to jfk who told him NOT to invade Cuba
that man was chester bowles
subsequently, he was removed from DC, appointed ambassador to India by jfk
jfk was a deliberate warmonger

Posted by: downtownhaiku | Nov 8 2022 0:32 utc | 128

So I’ve concluded its not the system but human nature that is the prime determinant.
If the Russians can make a deal to have greater control within the dollar system, using their irreplaceable mineral wealth as a bargaining chip, I’d say it would be near damn impossible to have the people reject that offer outright in exchange for perpetual war.
Posted by: B9k9 | Nov 7 2022 22:50 utc | 101
Interesting… I have a similar approach applying principles from experience and other fields to political-social arenas where I have little direct expertise. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t.
I won’t be surprised if you are right but I don’t see it. Russia territorially and culturally-historically seems to exhibit the mentality of a leviathan, a giant. Supertankers can take days to turn around. Similarly Russia, over several decades, has very slowly turned from wanting to rejoin Europe to now wanting either to leave or to teach her a deep, long-coming lesson, a once-in-an-epoque teaching moment, so that they, being territorial partners, can coexist peaceably.
The Western Alliance from top to bottom is ‘agreement-incapable.’ Having slowly and reluctantly come to this conclusion, which in no small part formed the basis of the conviction that military resistance was finally choiceless, RF is not going to negotiate anything less than the return of NATO back to 1990 borders, or perhaps disbandment altogether. But again: the West is agreement-incapable therefore I suspect the time for jaw-jaw is over and we are now in war-war. Not full-blown nation state versus nation state war, but a situation where facts on the ground will do the talking, not worthless meetings around tables, be they tactical facts on Ukraine territory including military moves and civilian conditions (food supply, power failures etc.) or macro trade flows, world wide depressions and such like. At some point the West will be in a position that leads to only one end, namely an abandonment of their hegemonic designs on world money flows and control. The West will have turned to new approaches.
To this end, I think the West is in for a long, slow humiliation process because such changes take time. This winter promises to be telling that way. I suspect the consummation devoutly wished by Putin et alia is popular movements resulting in substantive reforms of western polities such that the current corrupt Money Power are entirely uprooted. At that point they should become agreement-capable and be willing and able to join multipolar unions of sovereign states – if such a thing indeed happens and the WEF agenda is part of a globalist initiative in which Russia and China are core participants. Hard to tell… (I have reservations about such unions absent the agenda of resisting the US-led hegemon but that’s another issue.)
In any case, my read is that Russia is a giant who takes a long time to go to confrontation or war, but when she does wants substantively profound results. What’s at stake is far more than a border dispute with a NATO-funded Ukraine. What has to happen is that the West goes from being agreement-incapable to agreement-capable which will take nothing less than regime change. No small thing.
If that is not achievable, then bifurcation – Iron Curtain II.
Anyway, I like your more middle-way projection and look forward to seeing what finally transpires.

Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 8 2022 0:43 utc | 129

I find the limited memories of some rather curious; where were they last December when Russia called out NATO for violating a series of OSCE treaties and confronted the Outlaw US Empire/NATO with its demands that the situation be altered so no one’s security is threatened (concept of indivisible security on which those OSCE treaties and UN Charter are based) or a “military technical operation” will be undertaken to correct the situation? Did they ignore the findings of Genocide waged against Donbas which Putin agreed with? From 21 November 2021 to the beginning of the SMO on February 24, I wrote and published some 20 articles dealing with the prelude along with others interspersed having some related content. All those articles were shared/linked here. When the SMO’s goals were announced, most knew it wouldn’t end quickly for a variety of reasons. Plus, there’s the Big Picture Battle/War that too many refuse to see and thus understand that Ukraine is not the main event. Ending the Outlaw US Empire’s illegal global hegemony IS the Main Event.
For those who clearly missed it and have some or very little knowledge about what Ukraine is all about, Here again is my 20 December 2021 article, “Update on Russia’s Declarations With Full Treaty Texts and Various Analyses”.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 8 2022 0:47 utc | 130

Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 8 2022 0:11 utc | 124
I missed a short paragraph (first emboldened one below) in the above excerpts at the beginning which explained how the High Cabal quote was from Churchill during WWII.
Thusly:

CHAPTER 1
THE “SECRET TEAM”—THE REAL POWER STRUCTURE
The most remarkable development in the management of America’s relations with other countries during the quarter-century since the end of World War II has been the assumption of more and more control over military, financial and diplomatic operations at home and abroad by men whose activities are secret, whose budget is secret, whose very identities as often as not are secret—in short, by a Secret Team whose actions only those implicated in them are in a position to monitor and to understand.
For the purposes of this historical study, the choice of the word “Team” is most significant. It is well known that the members of a team, as in baseball or football, are skilled professionals under the direct control of someone higher up. They do not create their own game plan. They work for their coach and their owner. There is always some group that manages them and “calls the plays.” Team members are like lawyers and agents, they work for someone. They generally do not plan their work. They do what their client tells them to do. For example: this is true of agents in the Central Intelligence Agency. It is an “Agency” and not a “Department” and its employees are highly skilled professionals who perform the functions their craft demands of them. Thus, the members of the highest level “Secret Team” work for their masters despite the fact that their own high office may make it appear to others that they, themselves are not only the Team but the Power Elite. This recalls a story related by the Rt. Hon. Lord Denning, Master of the Rolls, of Great Britain, during WW II.
Winston Churchill had left the Admiralty to become Prime Minister. Frequently he would come down to the Admiralty basement on his way from #10 Downing Street, to his underground, bomb-proof bedroom. He made it his practice to visit the Officer in Charge for up-to-date Intelligence and then stroll into the Duty Captain’s room where there was a small bar from which he sometimes indulged in a night-cap, along with his ever-present cigar.
On this particular night there had been a heavy raid on Rotterdam. He sat there, meditating, and then, as if to himself, he said, “Unrestricted submarine warfare, unrestricted air bombing—this is total war.” He continued sitting there, gazing at a large map, and then said, “Time and the Ocean and some guiding star and High Cabal have made us what we are.”

This was a most memorable scene and a revelation of reality that is infrequent, at best. If for the great Winston Churchill, there is a “High Cabal” that has made us what we are, our definition is complete. Who could know better than Churchill himself during the darkest days of World War II, that there exists, beyond doubt, an international High Cabal? This was true then. It is true today, especially in these times of the One World Order. This all-powerful group has remained superior because it had learned the value of anonymity. For them, the Secret Team and its professionals operate.

Am very leary of books purporting to tell it how it is with secret government agencies. Suspect most of the time they are managing narratives that have leaked out. Have yet to read clear accounts of who the CIA et alia report to apart from differing speculations about different secret societies. Mayhap. For me it’s like UFO’s: if there is clear and present evidence, fine; otherwise I’d rather not try to guess one way or another. However that they do report to higher masters is almost certain. Because that’s how human nature functions in groups.

Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 8 2022 0:52 utc | 131

Why fool the west though? Majority of westerners are already backing Ukraine deeply and want Ukraine to keep on the war.
Posted by: Zanon | Nov 7 2022 16:37 utc | 13

True. Alex Christoforou reported it or characterized it correctly – it is to get the non-west on Ukraine’s side.

Posted by: Simon | Nov 8 2022 1:01 utc | 132

What do NATO and their leader think will happen if Ukraine fails to take Kherson?

Posted by: Simon | Nov 8 2022 1:05 utc | 133

Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 8 2022 0:21 utc | 128
The “secret service “intelligence” [lol] state”….
In the words of Chuck Schumer
“….Six ways to Sunday”
Schumer warns Trump: Intel officials ‘have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you’
Jan 2017.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/schumer-warns-trump-intel-officials-have-six-ways-from-sunday-at-getting-back-at-you
new leader of Democrats in the Senate says Donald Trump is being “really dumb” for picking a fight with intelligence officials, suggesting they have ways to strike back, after the president-elect speculated Tuesday that his “so-called” briefing about Russian cyberattacks had been delayed in order to build a case.
“Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community —
they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,”
said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer on
MSNBC after host Rachel Maddow
informed him that intelligence sources told NBC news that the briefing had not been delayed.
“So, even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he’s being really dumb to do this,” he added.
Trump has repeatedly expressed skepticism about the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia was in all likelihood involved in a hacking plot aimed at interfering in the election.
He claimed over the weekend that he knew “things that other people don’t know” and hinted that further information would soon be on the way.
“You’ll find out on Tuesday or Wednesday,” he told reporters.
That information was expected to be provided to Trump mid-week via an intelligence briefing.
But Tuesday evening, Trump said his briefing was delayed until Friday, and speculated that the spooks might need more time to build their case.
“Very strange!” he added.
And then,, on the fake RussiaRussiaRussia intel sting…they did rotisserie him.
This twit. https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog
Has done platinum journalism in digging into the sewer of the pisstapes, Christopher Steele, Alexander Downer, Mueller and the corruption of the FISA warrants that allowed electronic surveillance of Trump’s full team…..
[But let us lecture the world on our saintly democracy]

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 8 2022 1:14 utc | 134

New here. Love you long time. Thanks for keeping me informed about everything but the plandemic. Retired 38 year career US bureaucrat. Ukraine is going nowhere but the dustbin of bad notions. Sad that the bad hearts who control US foreign policy and war profits have spilled rivers of blood there.

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 8 2022 1:21 utc | 135

Schumer warns Trump: Intel officials ‘have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you’

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 8 2022 1:14 utc | 135

That was a lowball number from Schumer, he should have known that the real number was 6 million, it was always 6 million.
Then they decided to rub America’s nose in it by enabling the hair sniffing potted plant named Brandon to become the nominal Commander in Chief.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Nov 8 2022 1:33 utc | 136

Quentin Dempster: (onetime respected abc.gov.au journalist) (although if I were to reappraise his career with what I know now….maybe his pedestal would topple)

Former PM Tony Abbott wants Australia to reimpose conscription of young (18 year old) Australians for military and national service. Non-compliance? Jail .. one presumes. Libs gave us the lethal follies of Vietnam war and Iraq war.
Next? War with China?.

https://twitter.com/QuentinDempster/status/1589372041135652864
A: Yes.
Twitterverse:
> Oh dear, King and country time again is it?
> How convenient … his daughters are no longer in that age group. And he doesn’t have sons.
> As he once said “Shit happens” when referring to deaths in the armed forces
> Incidently; what’s Tone’s military service history?
> They have already pushed the war agenda with the China\USA rhetoric, where RWNJs think its eminent. So I guess this is phase 2
> This country was ONCE worth fighting for….I couldn’t give a rats arse if china invaded…. My standard of living would surely improve
§§ Add the ever expanding US military occupation of Australia, the installation of nuclear bombers here, the nuclear submarine shell-game and the increased commitment of Australia to the boondoggle in Ukraine (Australian troops are already in UK “training” Ukrainians) …..the plans and scaffolding for a future war are obvious.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 8 2022 1:37 utc | 137

Across Ukraine. The “sunflowers” bloom…..
https://mobile.twitter.com/lososevavesna/status/1587825868155535366
The meme: “Country ‘404’” (can no longer be found) is tragically becoming reality

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 8 2022 1:44 utc | 138

reply to Melaleuca | Nov 8 2022 1:44 utc | 139
Absolutely immoral, tragic, and unnecessary.

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 8 2022 1:50 utc | 139

Saint Jimmy | Nov 8 2022 1:50 utc | 140
Yes. I really hate this war.
(not a fan of any, to date, tbh)
And. welcome to the bar.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 8 2022 2:24 utc | 140

Algeria formally applies for admission to BRICS
At the end of July, Algerian President Abdelmadjid Tebboune said that his country was interested in joining BRICS
RABAT, November 7. /TASS/. The Algerian authorities have filed a formal application to join the BRICS group.
https://tass.com/world/1533335
“Tebbun stressed that accession to BRICS would allow Algeria to avoid participation”
… twitter- @WallStreetSilver:
“Algeria is Europe’s largest provider of natural gas after Russia and Norway… Algeria has the 11th largest gas reserves in the world.
BRICS is turning into the world’s source for commodities. If they can figure out a BRICS currency.”
> Maybe the USA will decide that Algeria needs a little more “freedom and democracy”
> Maybe the USA should apply to join BRICS also 😁
> BRICS is an acronym that started as BRIC in 2001, coined by Jim O’Neill (a Goldman Sachs economist) for Brazil, China, India, and Russia.
> RIP John: | John McAfee: “I am working with BRICS – a group of 5 G20 countries, through their contractor: http://newsilkroadbrics.com And their Coin: NSRT
The goal of BRICS is total independence from the USD and US financial instruments and institutions. I think you all know why I support this idea:)”
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1273598026733535233
>Q: Why not just #bitcoin?
McAfee: “No privacy. No smart contracts. No dapps , no …… It no longer has any value.
An old technology that no longer serves any purpose in the CryptoSphere.”
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1273600632419692545
I guess that’s why McAfee got “Gaddafied”….
Algeria to Get Higher Gas Price in New Deals With Italy, Spain
29 September 2022
Algeria will benefit from higher natural gas prices as it locks in deals with two European Union nations anxious to secure enough natural gas supplies for the coming winter.
State-controlled Algerian energy producer Sonatrach Group concluded a deal with Italy’s Enel SpA on Wednesday and said it will soon announce one with Naturgy Energy Group SA, ending a months-long stalemate with the Spanish utility over contractual price revisions.  
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-29/algeria-to-get-higher-gas-price-in-new-deals-with-italy-spain?leadSource=uverify%20wall

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 8 2022 2:25 utc | 141

re: bevin | Nov 7 2022 21:27 utc | 78
The link you posted didn’t work because a period got included at the end of the link (it probably got put there automatically by some helpful computer software lol).
here is the correct link: Getting Closer

Posted by: Perimetr | Nov 8 2022 2:26 utc | 142

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 8 2022 2:24 utc | 141
Thanks buddy. This round is on me.

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 8 2022 2:26 utc | 143

@Allan Kaplan 29
All discussions about the writing of “The Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion” are only about who wrote it or did not write it. Never is it about the content. Thereby they are a sensation. Namely the only prophecy which has come true point by point.

Posted by: Uwe | Nov 8 2022 2:39 utc | 144

Putin does not need major offensives but simply time. Then everything will take care of itself. What is happening in Germany is worse than a war, except perhaps a nuclear war. Companies that have been around for 450 years, survived the 30-year war, economic crises, World War I and World War II, are going under because of the current energy policy. They are disappearing. In war, something breaks, some people die. What is broken can be rebuilt, the knowledge is still there. Now the knowledge disappears. And this is only the beginning. The people have not yet understood that in fast motion a country or its economic basis is destroyed. Otherwise, they would go mad with fear and anger.
Now it’s official: Our gas will only last until February 2023. At the most. Without gas there is also no electricity. People will freeze to death and starve. A large part of them is already dead and just doesn’t know it yet. The German dies quietly and in loyalty to the government, including Ukraine. Our new fellow citizens from the Middle East, will fight for their lives, as they are used to. If there is no more Germany, the EU will also cease to exist. Everything changes for the worse. So Putin can only win. He just has to sit by the river and wait for the corpses of his enemies to float by.
Translated with http://www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Posted by: Uwe | Nov 8 2022 2:53 utc | 145

Protocols… who did or didn’t write it?
We can be 100% certain that Ann Frank didn’t write that one either.
Perhaps Meyer Levin wrote them both.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Nov 8 2022 2:56 utc | 146

@ Posted by: Uwe | Nov 8 2022 2:53 utc | 146 “Putin does not need major offensives but simply time.”
In time, China will likely swallow Russia much like Canada was swallowed by the US after a decade or two of independence in the 6os-70s.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Nov 8 2022 3:02 utc | 147

Posted by: Uwe | Nov 8 2022 2:53 utc | 146
I pray more and more Germans start to see what you see and feel what you feel. Then maybe you can reclaim your own initiative as a great and sovereign people no longer bowing down to narratives set by auslanders who do not wish you well, who do not see what you see or feel what you feel.
In many ways, Germany is the single most important country in the world right now. The old geopolitical masters have agreed that Ukraine is the pivot of the world for the control of Urkraine determines the control of Eurasia.
But Eurasia is not for controlling rather relaxing, expanding and indeed flourishing. Germany is the key for Western Europe to join larger Europe and thus also Eurasia, for without Europe Eurasia is split, hobbled. Joining Eurasia would mean leaving the Hegemonic Empire which in turn would bring it down so the key to world peace is the German people insisting on reclaiming their sovereignty and no longer being bound by arrangements following the last great War which ended in 1948 after millions more of your people had died following the May 1945 cessation of military activities than from 1939-1945, a great crime which should no longer be ignored or forgotten.
Good luck and God Speed!

Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 8 2022 3:14 utc | 148

Saint Jimmy | Nov 8 2022 2:26 utc | 144
I was an Aussie backpacker in my very early 20s when I went on the obligatory day trip to the “white cross” cemetery at Verdun.
My grandfather had fought (survived) at (I thought) Bullecourt, ….and ANZAC Day was a huge, big deal in the family, with a great uncle at Gallipoli, and a father a Japanese POW at Kanchanburi, (8th div) and his brother a Tobruk rat and New Guinea (9th div)….
Somehow I’d got to my 20s only half listening, not really understanding any of it…
So one day I turn up at the cemetery all blasé and bravado, ready to tick yet another “must do” tourist activity off my bingo card….. when… I turned around and actually *saw* the field…acres of white crosses…. All vibrant adventurous youths.. lads of my own age… dead in a field.
I was overwhelmed and became very emotional… I had to go and hide from my tour group… it was sobering and solemn and I’ve never been blase about wars and their needless stupid deaths since.
I wept for the white crosses in France, and I weep for the sunflower flags in Ukraine.
A full century has passed, and nothing has been learned.
I hate this war.
[‘Bullecourt, more than any other battle, shook the confidence of Australian soldiers in the capacity of the British command; the errors, especially on April 10th and 11th, were obvious to almost everyone’. Charles Bean, Official Historian. Accession Number: E00603]
>The Australians had 3,000 men killed or wounded; many survivors remained bitter about such a futile waste.

[My maternal grandfather, the little I remember of him, was a morose, humorless old bastard…. and his dour presence was attributed by family as a consequence of his war experience. And my dad suffered many physical, and more insidiously, mental scars from his years of starvation in the Japanese “holiday” camp in Burma).
Once this bullshit in Ukraine is finally over, the men who fought, and their families, and the civilians caught in the middle, will all continue to suffer for generations.
I hate all war.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 8 2022 3:19 utc | 149

Bill Smith [103]
You mean S29 HMS Victorious ?
At sea after 7-year refit started 2015 ?
Btw it is British ROYAL Navy because Navy was not created as statute law but by King – probably Henry VIII

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Nov 8 2022 3:22 utc | 150

This is the same war. We just had a short recess for countries to restock and switch sides. It’s still WWII. The National Socialists, both Fascists and Nazis, have rebranded themselves as “Globalists,” but they follow the same methods and technics. Their method was based on Leninism. It has the communists controlling the major industries while allowing small amounts of free Enterprise in small businesses. Most of Europe, the US, Canada, and others have switched to being Globalists. Russia has bucked the trend, overthrew communism, and continued the role of the Allies.
The war isn’t over oil in Donbass. It is still over Crimea. That is not only Russia’s deep water shipyards, it is also its path for commerce with more than half of the world. That is how it competes in Southern and Eastern Europe, Northern and Western Africa, Central and South America. The Ukrainians and the rest of the Globalists must fight against that competition in order to keep control of the Western hemisphere.
China has its own brand of communism. The globalists use it to disrupt markets to help them gain power, but China isn’t “partnered” with the Globalists. Neither is North Korea. While we can’t view them as allies, we should partner with them, and every other country, when the partnership benefits both sides. If one could remove the Globalist control of USA, we and Russia would partner in most areas, and the entire world would be better off.

Posted by: barstool | Nov 8 2022 3:28 utc | 151

Here’s a critique on Sergeant Schultz and his song and dance whilst German industries are being gutted.
http://thesaker.is/germanys-moral-collapse-inside-china-scholzs-11-hours-visit-to-beijing-spells-catastrophe/

Posted by: Surferket | Nov 8 2022 3:37 utc | 152

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Nov 8 2022 3:02 utc | 148
That looks more like a white imperialist anti China projection than any actual knowledge of Chinese civilisation historical behavior.

Posted by: Surferket | Nov 8 2022 3:41 utc | 153

Someone should have discussed this here before but the meaning of Rhode Island submarine in the Mediterranean is that it could launch its Trident II missiles on a low/non-ballistic trajectory towards Russia. The nominal range of Trident II missiles of 18,000 miles is for the high apogee ballistic trajectory whereby the rocket fuel is burnt only in about the first 1/3 of its path, after which the warheads travel as a gliders back into the atmosphere. The Russian ABMD systems such as S500+ can relatively easily shoot down such ballistic warheads before they reach Russia. However, the shorter range low apogee trajectories, where the missile travels below the visibility of most air-defence radars for a good part of its trajectory makes the job of shooting down such warheads much harder due to the shorter reaction time. The only way to see such missiles in time are the Over The Horizon radars, satellites and the flying AWACS radars. However, unless those are directly integrated into the fire radars of missile defence, they cannot help S500+ shoot down such missiles.
Last couple of test launches of Trident II by US have been done under such trajectories, obviously as the First Strike provocation towards Russia and China (the missiles are much smarter than the cretins launching them).
Finally, there are similar US submarines lurking in the Northern seas without the propaganda promotion that Rhode Island got (just to increase the self confidence of the US vassals). But the Russia’s newest, biggest and the best submarine 30,000 tonne Belgorod is testing its nuclear drones called Poseidon and a good part of one of the US coasts would be gone if US launched any of its Tridents II towards Russia.

Posted by: Kiza | Nov 8 2022 3:48 utc | 154

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 8 2022 3:19 utc | 150
Wow. I do too. I knew quite a few WW 2 vets. Guys who fought mostly in the Pacific. Guam and Iwo Jima. My uncle and Godfather was a B-25 Mitchell pilot with 4 battle stars. My dad was lucky. He landed in France the day Germany surrendered. I joined a congressional audit agency in ’82 and retired a couple of years ago. I have a Russian better half who taught school in France for 20 years. She’s from St. Petersburg. Old Soviet education and she’s wonderful. 🙂

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 8 2022 3:48 utc | 155

Aw, Zelenski doesn’t mean it. Eat lead, hypocrite fools. Pariah criminal fools. Go home and shut up.

Posted by: ahole | Nov 8 2022 4:00 utc | 156

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 8 2022 3:19 utc | 150
Ha. I’m becoming Sir Toby Belch.

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 8 2022 4:04 utc | 157

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Nov 8 2022 3:02 utc | 148
Mao said people who don’t do research should not comment.
https://communityliteracy.org/how-much-land-did-russia-take-from-china/

Posted by: Surferket | Nov 8 2022 4:05 utc | 158

The horse race to be the next NATO chief is already staged for Freeland as you can read about in a ZH posting with the title
US Wants Official Of Ukrainian Descent As Next NATO Chief

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 8 2022 4:17 utc | 159

Kherson is NOT being abandoned. That’s a crock of lies. Here’s a report from the ground:
https://awfulavalanche.wordpress.com/2022/11/07/ukraine-war-day-257-whats-up-in-kherson/

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 8 2022 4:27 utc | 160

@ psychohistorian | Nov 8 2022 4:17 utc | 158
the bimbo who led the lima group and their failed attempt to install juan guiado… a good choice, lol…
@ Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 8 2022 4:27 utc | 162
i like yalensis’s input..

Posted by: james | Nov 8 2022 4:42 utc | 161

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 8 2022 4:17 utc | 158
Hahaha. Zelensky for Fuhrer! Seig Heil.
Ukraine is losing weight and you can too!

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 8 2022 4:48 utc | 162

Interesting article here from The Reading Junkie, speculating on how many American troops have already been killed in Ukranazistan:
https://readingjunkie.com/2022/11/05/how-many-american-servicemen-has-biden-sacrificed-in-ukraine/
The fact that the Bidet regime all of a sudden admitted it has “boots on the ground” in Ukranazistan indicates as strongly as it is possible to get that so many American forces have already been killed that it will soon become impossible to hide the losses and that some kind of explanation has to be concocted to account for the dead.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 8 2022 4:54 utc | 163

What is this Wordle spam? Have so many people given up on the stupid game that the New York Crimes needs to hire spammers to advertise it?

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 8 2022 4:55 utc | 164

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 8 2022 4:17 utc | 158

US Wants Official Of Ukrainian Descent As Next NATO Chief

Would that be Ukrainian Khazar, Ukrainian Gypsy, Cossack, Tartar?
I can already tell you he/she/it will be of the same ‘descent’ as the Shmyhal, Zelensky,Reznikoff …
The prophecy of the Book that Cannot be Named is fulfilled with every passing day …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 8 2022 5:15 utc | 165

Every day I realise more and more that Nineteen Eighty Four was an instruction manual.
War means peace, doublethink, Newspeak, and all.
https://sonar21.com/is-the-love-of-money-and-war-is-the-root-of-all-evil/

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 8 2022 5:21 utc | 166

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 8 2022 5:21 utc | 167

Every day I realise more and more that Nineteen Eighty Four was an instruction manual.

You’re decades late to the party …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 8 2022 5:27 utc | 167

The ranch country of northwest South Dakota on Tuesday is going to have a blizzard of 15 cm of snow driven by 80 kmh winds. Too bad that’s not happening in the battle space of Ukraine and hastening the coming of the winter freeze up…

Posted by: DakotaRog | Nov 8 2022 5:55 utc | 168

B, I agree with you – and I disagree.
I have no qualms with the idea that Biden does not really want peace. Caitlin Johnstone’s recent piece reporting on the words of Admiral Charles Richard certainly show that Corporate America is out for bear. They have wrecked the Keynesian state in the US, they have wrecked US Labor, they are wrecking Europe and the want Russia and China too. Richard says that Russia is only the ‘warmup’ to the ‘big one.’
On the other hand – on the other hand, there is no question that the negotiations front in Europe is building fast. The latest evidence are the 100,000 people who marched in Rome Saturday – and mind you, Italy – the EU’s third largest economy – is the weak link in the ‘weapons first’ chain, with only one in four Italians approving sending arms to Ukraine. And they’re not the only ones. Polling data shows that in France, the Netherlands, even Germany, the anti-weapons front is very strong (my analysis: https://myke-simonian.medium.com/on-ukraine-arms-meloni-is-increasingly-embattled-2da11295dbb). The very fact that after all this time of swatting the opposition away by calling us ‘Putin Lovers,’ Biden feels the need to even ‘message’ peace is a big deal.
Will the US give up? Of course not. Republican or Democrat, Corporate America is determined to get back into the world driver seat, and Biden thinks he is the right man to do it.
Which is why I am calling on eveybody here who can vote tomorrow to do so, and to vote to deprive him of his rubberstamp Congress. I don’t care if that means voting Republican, Working Families Party, Libertarian or something else, so long as it is a candidate with a proven record on arms shipments to Ukraine. I do not care if it means voting for a person you find distasteful. The danger of world war is enormous, it is in our faces, and right now, that is a far more present danger than ‘fascism’ just because the Democrats lose the House and/or Senate.
My full argument can be found here: https://myke-simonian.medium.com/on-tuesday-vote-anti-war-whatever-the-party-even-the-gop-4e1be6a85245
Thanks for grinding these pieces out, day after day. I know it takes work.

Posted by: Myke Simonian | Nov 8 2022 5:59 utc | 169

The ranch country of northwest South Dakota on Tuesday is going to have a blizzard of 15 cm of snow driven by 80 kmh winds. Too bad that’s not happening in the battle space of Ukraine and hastening the coming of the winter freeze up…
Posted by: DakotaRog | Nov 8 2022 5:55 utc | 169
Yep. The uncollected Ukrainian and meathead mercenary bodies wouldn’t rot as quickly as in summer when they draw flies.

Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 8 2022 6:00 utc | 170

Regarding the waste and tragedy of war, the Irish have 2 moving songs:
The Green Fields of France (Willie McBride)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ntt3wy-L8Ok
And the Band played waltzing Matilda
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cZqN1glz4JY

Posted by: Exile | Nov 8 2022 6:31 utc | 171

Posted by: Myke Simonian | Nov 8 2022 5:59 utc | 170
You don’t understand.
Your leaders are a facade.
All of them.
Every last one.
Your true rulers hide in the shadows.
It is they who set the playbook.
Your leaders are only actors on a stage.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 8 2022 6:38 utc | 172

@ Saint Jimmy, #171
“The ranch country of northwest South Dakota on Tuesday is going to have a blizzard of 15 cm of snow driven by 80 kmh winds. Too bad that’s not happening in the battle space of Ukraine and hastening the coming of the winter freeze up…
Posted by: DakotaRog | Nov 8 2022 5:55 utc | 169
Yep. The uncollected Ukrainian and meathead mercenary bodies wouldn’t rot as quickly as in summer when they draw flies.
Posted by: Saint Jimmy | Nov 8 2022 6:00 utc | 171”
The coyotes would eat well no matter the season. Maybe some golden eagles, crows, and magpies still around that would join in. Its truly amazing how much carrion a golden eagle can eat.

Posted by: DakotaRog | Nov 8 2022 7:08 utc | 173

Posted by: Exile | Nov 8 2022 6:31 utc | 172
Hey. They are not Irish. These songs – and brilliant they are were written by Eric Bogle
Eric Bogle (born 23 September 1944) is a Scottish-born Australian folk singer-songwriter. Born and raised in Scotland, he emigrated to Australia at the age of 25, to settle near Adelaide, South Australia.
I know the Irish have great ballads but allow us Aussies our too.
The Band played waltzing Matilda is as Aussie as you can get.

Posted by: watcher | Nov 8 2022 7:25 utc | 174

@ watcher and exile – Redgum – I Was Only 19

Posted by: lex talionis | Nov 8 2022 7:32 utc | 175

Can someone tell me how the Russian airforce is going?

Posted by: Brother Ma | Nov 7 2022 22:56 utc | 104
If you watch the videos on TG they mostly use SU24 and KA52 for close ground support. Also heavy use of drones.
There was a report of a SU34 being shot down by a Starburst missile towards the start of the conflict so there is reason to believe AFU AA is not to be taken lightly.

Posted by: Down South | Nov 8 2022 8:03 utc | 176

Here are the real news:
The weapons that the U.S. has been pouring into the most corrupt country in the world with no questions asked are starting to Show up in all Kinds of interesting places, including Finnland amd Germany. that was to be expected by everybody but the unbelievably stupid western politicians. No wonder the west is panicking and sending Fake Sullivan all over the place. But it’s too late. When the first plane is downed by a Stinger from Ukraine somewhere in western europe, the fun will start in earnest.

Posted by: Franz Beckenbauer | Nov 8 2022 8:41 utc | 177

Myke Simonian | Nov 8 2022 5:59 utc | 170
“On the other hand – on the other hand, there is no question that the negotiations front in Europe is building fast. The latest evidence are the 100,000 people who marched in Rome Saturday…
The very fact that after all this time of swatting the opposition away by calling us ‘Putin Lovers,’ Biden feels the need to even ‘message’ peace is a big deal.”

So you’re saying the European protestors aren’t calling for their governments to just unconditionally Get Out of the war, but are trying to serve as useful idiots for any renewed “negotiation” scam?
Of course sentient people know that bona fide negotiations with the empire are impossible.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Nov 8 2022 8:43 utc | 178

“about wars and their needless stupid deaths”
“A full century has passed, and nothing has been learned.”
Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 8 2022 3:19 utc | 150
Those that started those wars do not see them as stupid. They are as useful as a hammer is to a carpenter. So they have learned the lesson of how to use it many many centuries ago.
The big problem, which can not be easily fixed, is that the Masses don’t understand what the real purpose of these wars is. In a few words, to cull them & steal from others. These big events happen more or less every one or two generations, so as to make it harder for the majority to catch on what is really going on. The rest is done by the Education SYSTEM and Hollywood in the the case of the US of A. Too few catch on to make a real difference in how the scam is run.
I have no clue how other wars were but WW I was simply insane in how it was conducted. To glorify anything in it is simply absurd (indicative of the inability to think critically). I personally am disgusted when I see the military appearing at these events. For me it is simply further glorification of these institutions which sent people to die for NOTHING. Just looking at Europe todays shows that the people who died during WW I and II, died for nothing. They did die for the Financiers and for people holding power in their countries. Iraq veterans in US are a good example of this.
Memorializing the dead soldiers should be done as private citizens, as those uniforms are just symbols of passports to death for nothing.
OK, now lets get back to Reality.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Nov 8 2022 8:44 utc | 179

B9k9 | Nov 7 2022 22:50 utc | 101
“If the Russians can make a deal to have greater control within the dollar system, using their irreplaceable mineral wealth as a bargaining chip…”
That was Putin’s fantasy for all those years he refused to admit to himself that the imperial Cool Kids were never going to let Russia sit at their table and were simply out to destroy Russia, period, for its own sake (the Full Spectrum Dominance doctrine) as well as for military Keynesian purposes.
As much as I doubt Putin’s psychological fortitude to wage WWIII, even I don’t think he’s still carrying the “G8” torch.
Of course, the renewed “negotiation” propaganda now getting some play amid the imperial media machine is preparation for teeing up that fake football yet again to see if Putin will yet again try to kick it.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Nov 8 2022 8:51 utc | 180

Not to sound like another one of those nutty “Come on Putin, Fuck ’em!” figures, but I am wondering what exactly Russia is waiting for when it’s obvious it could pull the plug and terminate Ukraine any time it wants.
Posted by: pachinko | Nov 7 2022 18:29 utc | 48
But you are one of those figures. You don’t seem to read very much of what’s being discussed here. Most russians have friends or family in Ukraine. They don’t want to “pull the plug on” or “terminate” them.
If some satanist jew and a group of thugs took your friends or someone from your extended (or close) family hostage, would you be yelling and hooting to bomb all of them to smithereens or to cut their electricity, heating and water?
Besides, it’s worth waiting for the West to stew in its own problems a while more. Who knows, the EU might collapse. Being from Europe, I would be very happy to see that.

Posted by: Jusses | Nov 8 2022 8:56 utc | 181

@surferket #157
It’s not Mao it’s Confucius in the first place (around 500 B.C.)
Confucius said to his students
“If someone does no research and thinks much, it’s dangerous.
“If someone does much research and doesn’t think, it’s useless.”

Posted by: lahire | Nov 8 2022 9:05 utc | 182

Posted by: bevin | Nov 7 2022 21:27 utc | 78
But it is not illegal nor even considered bad taste to abstain from voting for UN resolutions condemning Nazism, as the European countries routinely do.

Posted by: bottle | Nov 8 2022 9:31 utc | 183

Posted by: chunga | Nov 7 2022 16:24 utc | 7
The game plan was always to “bail out” leaving Germany mired in conflict with Russia.
Since the intent is to bloc the land-route from China to Germany and Rotterdam by using Ukraine as a Chaos Zone – the goal was simply to set the Borderlands ablaze and leave.
Destroying European security is simply to create the same mess as in Middle East or Horn of Africa or Nigeria ……..to have conflict making cooperation impossible and arms sales profitable.
US has already destroyed European Defence Production by pulling Germany away from France and into F-35 dependency – a programmable air platform controlled by Us on subscription model. France needed a partner – UK or Germany to keep its aerospace businesses afloat. US and Uk cut into DCN naval contracts with OZ and US has disunited Franco-German-Italian-Spanish weapons production
Poland is run by a demented Kaczynski who thinks of Polish-Lithuanian conquest of Russia and is an easy play for Washington as it loads up on liabilities for weapons and nuclear reactors – blackmailing Germany………but it will blow apart.
US will walk away and leave Europe in the mess it left Iraq and Afghanistan…….no doubt EU Commission is underwriting the cost of US weapons to Kiev – another VdL secret deal to be discovered down the road ?

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Nov 8 2022 9:42 utc | 184

For entertainment purposes only – no animal was harmed in the making of this comment. But I cannot guarantee none will be harmed after reading it. Please don’t kick the cat!
Some people like to say: “It’s time to call a spade a spade.” But I say no sir!
It’s time to call a spade a very handy tool that makes it much easier to dig a decent hole in the ground.
So, @karlof1 #114
Not Crooke again?
Really, must we? OK then, I read it. But it was at your suggestion Karl, so don’t blame me.
In a word?
Tedious.
IMO Crooke appears to have awakened into a febril stupor. Where is this current concatenation going to end up? Probably in a 1950s era East side basement bar reading dry incomprehensible poetry to a bunch of vacant headed beatniks!
How does this meandering mind-bending haze end up at the stunning, unexpected and sudden conclusion of Biden stumbles towards his ‘principled’ Armageddon to save the “liberal order”? For frankly, Horatio, it Doth not Follow, old chum.
The psycho-clones in DC and London don’t give a shit about the “liberal order” – to suggest they do is plain nuts – there is nothing to this West v Russia/China issue than pure unadulterated Global Power – nothing else is on the table or matters to these madmen.
What they craze, demand and obsess over is Control. Power and Control. There is nothing “liberal” about any of it.
The “liberal order”? Liberalism? Dah Mockracy? Hate Speech? #MeToo? Free Dumb of Speech? Equal Pay for Women? Black Lives Matter? Wokism? Trans Rights and Toilets? Pussy Hats? Ukrainian borders? Freedom seeking Iranians? The Taiwanese? Uyghurs in Xinjiang? Kurds in Syria or Turkey? The Twitterverse? Climate Change? Electric vehicles and solar panels? COP27? Civil War statues? Critical Race Theory?
Seriously, FFS, please get a grip!!! Because this is delusional thinking par excellence. It’s not only succumbing to the Pathological Neoliberal Propaganda, it’s literally swimming inside of it.
” They “ do not give a shit about any of it. Means to end baby! That’s it. Period.

Everything is in play. And Washington knows it.

Aah no. Washington does not know ‘it’. Because Washington cannot comprehend wtf Putin and Xi are even talking about. It’s like an alien language to them. Washington – Dems and Repubs both sides, all of them, the Technocrats, the Military, the Intel supremos, the Deep State head-kickers, the Ivy League morons are all clueless idiots. Brain Dead and Dysfunctional. Those beings Evolution Selects for the Scrap Heap. The Walking Dead Zombies of this World.
When they try to read what is sent to them they are overcome by an X rated version of Dyslexia on steroids. To them Putin is the idiotic grunting of a baboon on heat. It’s Putin and his mob they intend to be metaphorically herded onto a caravan of tumbrils – not Biden, Bojo, or themselves
Because nothing gets in. Nothing at all. They do not expect to lose, ever. Out of the question. Impossible. Because they are operating on a completely different level of consciousness and awareness to Russia/China/RoW. As far removed as a compassionate methodical Nurse is to a psychopathic serial killer – they cannot compute or connect.

In Europe, the recognition of national polarities, and a return to its free trading origins may prove to be its off-ramp from Europe-wide deepening fractures.

Huh? What free-trading origins? Europeans origins are nothing other than slave-owning colonialist thievery and war-mongering conqueror paradigms. What’s with this making saints out of devils? These assholes have not been misled by “evil neoliberal neocon Americans”these obnoxious self-righteous narcissistic racist European assholes wrote the damn Rule Book! What on earth is Crooke smoking?

Europe quietly is going multi-polar!

Oh bollocks. Take another ‘puff’.

Biden’s Washington apparently is not disposed to hear.

Well Doh! Tell us something we didn’t know for crying out loud. That’s one hell of a “conclusion” to arrive at – not! /s

Should we then scrap the model in which we are so heavily invested? Perhaps rather, we should attend to upcoming trends that behave differently to that which our old model predicts — the more persistent the surprises, the more likely we need a new model.

Death to this gobbledygook. My Kingdom for some coherency! Do a writers course at least. Say what you mean. Mean what you say. And make some logical sense the average person will understand while you do it.
But there is still more word salad to come, this time about

…. the radical identity politics of the French Revolution!

The What? Until today, I had never heard about that load of imaginary codswallop in my entire life. God truly hates me. Of that I am now certain.
But no, there’s still more on how to talk about absolutely nothing, to no end without end:

Empires had existed for millennia, but their virtue was having been driven by a vigorous cultural energy until the energetic impulse finally fades to a rustle amongst the leaves

Get me a bunch of Flowers and a Vase forthwith Pasquale. All this waxing lyrical like a forlorn Yeats but who never really could cut it at Cambridge is going to my head. My Kingdom for a Metaphor that works dear Hamlet.
Like I said Tedious. Painful and Tedious! Finally succumbing to ennui and utter despair!
Woe is me, only to then be further bashed into silence when appraised it was that very same French Revolution what did deliver to us a modern life of existential, nihilistic, amoral and predatory imperialism.
Oh poor me, I cry out in vain dear Horatio my love! Maybe Marie Antoinette was right after all. The answer was always Cake!
Cake and nudity ….

… the rest of the world sees it as ‘naked’ — a naked Emperor — a grasping primacy, justified through self-attributed superiority, that once may have held some validity, but which today has descended into narcissism and sociopathy — woke anti-culture and weaponised dysfunctionality — used as coercive tools by which to ‘rule’.

Really? When is enough enough Alastair mon ami?
weaponised dysfunctionality – jeezus really? Was that absolutely necessary?
coercive tools by which to ‘rule’ – and One Tool to Rule them All! ~Tada!
OMG, please stop!
Surprisingly, or maybe strangely, the best part of this entire piece was actually written by a Saud:

“I keep listening, are you with us or against us? Is there any room for, ‘We are for Saudi Arabia and for the people of Saudi Arabia?’”.

Well where the F*** were you in 2001, 2003 and ever since pal? Oh yeah, I remember. You were All In and All the Way with the US of A! Oh yeah baby!
Well sorry, but F*** You Saudi Energy Minister, Prince Abdulaziz, and all your inbred Cousins
Don’t come crying crocodile tears on my lap you self-righteous pathological little smarmy prick.
Stick it where the sun don’t shine! And find yourself a better press agent than Alastair Crooke.
No more Alastair Crooke for me. I value my sanity. Ha ha.

Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 8 2022 9:44 utc | 185

Scorpion @ 132

Mayhap. For me it’s like UFO’s: if there is clear and present evidence, fine; otherwise I’d rather not try to guess one way or another. However that they do report to higher masters is almost certain. Because that’s how human nature functions in groups.

The confusion, the lack of conspiracy, is because the “Cabal” “Masons” “Illuminati” “BIS Bankers” “WEF” whatever you like fight amongst themselves as a matter of form, literally stabbing each other in the back, and have all through history. Because of this the Powers That Be seem disunited, which works well in modern times for the democracy myth and leads to wild attempts of explanation like Reptile Beings and UFOs. (Not saying it ain’t true!)
The suspicion of conspiracy is because these forces or Higher Force if you like, has a unity of purpose. It’s like medieval Europe or the mafia, in all the EU wars over the centuries (even in WW2 with the Windsors of German descent) the leaders of opposing sides were all each others cousins if not brothers or uncles fighting each other to death and destruction. You never see the word fratricide or patricide in a headline when some working stiffs kill each other it’s exclusively reserved for the aristocracy, where immorality isn’t a sin it’s a sacrament, and it has it’s own special inverted terminology from the rest of mankind.
The veiled Powers That Be, or the Power That Is, is more like a force than a entity, as light is both a particle and waveform and this is the confusion over who rules us. I simply think of it like the mafia, they are united in as much as they protect, often unwittingly, the amoral “might makes right” universe that empowers them while pummeling each other to be first in line at the feeding trough. No grand designs needed.
Frank Herbert got it right, Dune is chilling, cynical and hopeless as it posits a humanity 10,000 (!) years in the future that hasn’t made one bit of progress other than technological from the previous 10,000 years! Humanity in an eternal rut in a self defined universe bounded by vice, pettiness, treachery, violence, domination, and mindless, thoughtless, relentless greed.
That rut is the conspiracy.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 8 2022 9:44 utc | 186

I believe there are anti-war protests in Europe. But it seems these protests do not get much visibility in the news. Does anyone have an overview of which countries have protests?

Posted by: Passerby | Nov 8 2022 9:47 utc | 187

@ Leroy # 16
“Free the people from their government”
It is also about to blow up Meta & Alphabet, Blackrock, Vanguard and a few global banks like HSBC etc; – if this is not already too late. The digital financial cartel must return the deposits / “investments” to their real owners. All these financial riffraff supporting the WEF must be smashed so much that they can never get up again.
Because of the embezzled taxes sind the 1980’s, 50% of their assets will be used for the re-initialisation of social means, social projects, social market economy, so such as free education, free health systems (curing drug-addictions) etc.
All digital currencies will have to be banned in principle. Without this blackmail money a unipolar world order can be stopped. Don’t even think China and Russia are not striving for digital currencies and a kind of “unconditional basic income”. They do it simply to gain control over their populations. Digital money is designed for the enslavement of all humanity, making everyone dependent.
Forget the fuss about this ridiculous banderists gulag. Ukranine has only one goal, to destroy European mid-sized industries… actually finishing off the job which has started during the 1980’s. This poor Ukrainians are addicted to arms, drugs, cars, gold and money. They are the chosen to destroy the entire middle class industry which is providing 80% of employment opportunities. The goal of WEF and finance=digital cartels is to strike the final blow against all remaining democratic institutions.

Posted by: Ted | Nov 8 2022 9:48 utc | 188

Bonaparte and (separately) Hitler have taught the world twice that blitzkrieg and crushing victories can be followed by severe defeats.
Russia is unlikely to forget that teaching.

Posted by: lahire | Nov 8 2022 9:49 utc | 189

The crass imbecility of the EU politicians beggars belief. I wonder what the USA has over them to keep them in line.
Posted by: Steve | Nov 7 2022 18:25 utc | 46
Well after 1990 they accessed the Stasi Files and shipped them to Langley.
They probably have enough ELINT and HUMINT on sexual perversions and coke usage.
They probably know just how corrupt Scholz and Johnson are………and how most politicos have compromised their own countries.
Rumours abound Johnson has a $10 million a year rubber chicken gig ahead – that must be only in USA since no-one else wants to hear the blovating slob. Just as Blair was bought and packaged so too are VdL husband and children and Merz in Germany………..
It used to be “the book deal” with fat advance that rewarded politicians – a Murdoch speciality – but now it is board directorships, think-tanks, commissions……..just look how many Foundations and Consultancies soak up taxpayer money and generate luxury lifestyles…….
The world of private jets, parties, conferences is best enjoyed when paid for by a “charitable foundation” like the Clinton Foundation which wastes nothing on the poor and funds lavish travel
Gates Foundation and Bertelsmann Foundation are there to buy politicians and their children – pay education fees, expense accounts, vacations

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Nov 8 2022 9:50 utc | 190

I don’t think anyone knows what’s going on. It is all too insane and too contradictory, too mysterious.
Like now Russia seems to be getting really serious: reinforcements, bombing the whole nation putting out the lights..
Yet attacks by Kiev go on unabated apparently..
And fuel flows in to Kiev’s forces, unabated, apparently…
And that’s just the beginning of the insanity – how can Germany and UK etc. be literally killing their own nations and their own citizens in the name of sanctions that anyway DON’T WORK ?
I fail to see any rationality anywhere. Anyone know where i can find some?

Posted by: abrogard | Nov 8 2022 9:58 utc | 191

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 7 2022 22:30 utc | 92
Germany may be a wealthy country but most citizens are not wealthy. Wages are kept artificially low. Citizens are less wealthy than for example Italians or Dutch, on average.

Posted by: bottle | Nov 8 2022 9:59 utc | 192

@ Paul Greenwood # 184
“US will walk away and leave Europe in the mess it left Iraq and Afghanistan…….no doubt EU Commission is underwriting the cost of US weapons to Kiev – another VdL secret deal to be discovered down the road ?”
When a few days ago Bandella was elected as the new head of the notorious French nationalist RN, previously FN, and the blond avenging angel of the petite bourgeois, Lepen, resigned, the door was opened to Europe’s new right-wing conservatism on a large scale. Count on 2027.
We now have Italy, Sweden, Hungary and with Bandella quite right-wing extremists who might warm to the Republicans but not to Trump. Germany’s AfD will become at least member of the governing part of the government, not just a opposition.
If these nationalists are not sufficiently bribed, NATO will break up. And then the whole circus will start all over again: the Europeans will start bashing each other’s heads in again. They will never accept digital currencies and all this woke nonsense.

Posted by: Ted | Nov 8 2022 10:05 utc | 193

@karlof1 #64 @surferket #153
Right
China’s rulers are not blind to what sort of game the US & friends are playing towards Eurasia/Russia.
Therefore for their own safety they stick and will stick to Russia-Iran and others and by doing so they achieve their best economic interest too.
As clearly displayed in all their policies for 12 years now.

Posted by: lahire | Nov 8 2022 10:07 utc | 194

Posted by: lahire | Nov 8 2022 9:05 utc | 182
As you can see I’ve done my research.
I. WITHOUT INVESTIGATION, NO RIGHT TO SPEAK
Unless you have investigated a problem, you will be deprived of the right to speak on it.
Too harsh? Not in the least. When you have not probed into the social and historical facts of a
problem and know nothing of its essentials, whatever you say about it will undoubtedly be
nonsense. Talking nonsense solves no problems, as everyone knows, so why is it unjust to
deprive you of the right to speak? Many comrades merely keep their eyes shut and talk
nonsense all the time, and for the Communist Party that is disgraceful. How can a communist
keep his eyes shut and talk nonsense?
It won’ t do!
It won’t do!
You must investigate!
You must not talk nonsense!
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://prchistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/%25E6%25AF%259B%25E6%25B3%25BD%25E4%25B8%259C%25E8%25AE%25BA%25E8%25B0%2583%25E6%259F%25A5%25E7%25A0%2594%25E7%25A9%25B6.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjbj6Pqr577AhWqMjQIHenpDjgQFnoECA4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0ni2JE4JEWKb9fMZouwEP1

Posted by: Surferket | Nov 8 2022 10:32 utc | 195

Tom_Q_Collins @128: “Has there ever been a case of a President flouting them on something and unfavorable press coverage planted w/ in the Mighty Wurlitzer to hurt him or bring him in line?”
Did you sleep through the entire Trump presidency?
The 2016 elections were supposed to be kayfabe, and by and large they were. It was the championship prizefight and Trump was supposed to throw that fight so the mob/blob could claim the prize with their stooge. In fact, Trump tried to throw that fight by acting more radical and beyond the norm for a presidential candidate. That was supposed to frighten voters away from him, and those most well-conditioned by mass media brainwashing were frightened; terrified into paralyzing “Trump Derangement Syndrome” horror by what they saw. Their minds broke and remain broken today; however, for the “deplorable” majority the more anti-establishment Trump behaved the more they loved him.
Trump’s win was a stunning rebuke by the American people to the “Establishment” that the individual members of the “Establishment” remain in denial of. What the American people wanted more than anything else in 2016 was a bull in the china shop laying waste to the “Establishment”. It wasn’t just Hillary personally that everyone hated so deeply, it was the entire manipulative machine behind her and represented by the Clinton brand that was/is despised.
Sure, we know Trump is part of the “Establishment” just like Clinton and was just playing a role in the kayfabe. That doesn’t change the fact that Trump won a championship prizefight that had the fate of the Empire hinging on it when he was supposed to lose. The prize for that fight was enormous, and when the mob/blob is denied their prize they go insane with rage and desire for revenge.
The fact that you couldn’t hear “Mighty Wurlitzer” when it was turned up to its highest volume in history; “turned up to eleven” even, is faintly disturbing. You don’t still have “Trump Derangement Syndrome”, do you? People with “Trump Derangement Syndrome” were too caught up in the hysteria to hear the tune from the “Mighty Wurlitzer” they were emotionally moshing to.

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 8 2022 10:55 utc | 196

@Surferket #195
Truly devastating and sorry for overlooking that
I will rather stick to the Confucean wisdom, though …

Posted by: lahire | Nov 8 2022 11:04 utc | 197

I don’t have any opinion about Crooke perosnally, as I don’t really know the guy. But given he’s a conflict resolution, peace maker type, well I’m sure we’d see eye to eye on most things and actually similar values. But there is something recently about him and Escobar (and Gonzalo Lira too) that rubs me the wrong way, partly for saying things that to me “just ain’t so” or are unreasonably embellished, plus the way in which they write/say things. Like a chalk on a blackboard feeling.
Whereas people like Stephen Cohen (RIP), a Patrick Lawrence, McGovern, or John Mearsheimer I can listen to for hours on end. Weird. Oh well. Horses for courses. I read many other ‘opinion/analysis’ articles and news reports by many people about things found on these pages but whether I agree, buy in, or not to what they say I can at least read them easily without the effects the above guys tend to give rise to lately. I must cut back on the chalk then.
And I realize no one cares. But there is a reason for everything, and that was mine. No big deal. Meanwhile if Crooke seeks to be more ‘poetic’ maybe he could use a better yardstick before publishing?

Words are flowing out like endless rain into a paper cup
They slither while they pass, they slip away across the universe
Pools of sorrow waves of joy are drifting through my opened mind
Possessing and caressing me
Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes
They call me on and on across the universe
Thoughts meander like a restless wind Inside a letter box they
Tumble blindly as they make their way Across the universe
Sounds of laughter shades of life are ringing
Through my open ears inciting and inviting me
Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns
And calls me on and on across the universe
Jai guru deva om
Nothing’s gonna change my world
John Ono Lennon

One doesn’t need to understand it intellectually. Because you know it’s good poetry when it makes you feel good either way. Enjoy the lunar eclipse. The times they are a changing. Chow

Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 8 2022 11:12 utc | 198

@SeanAu
Enjoy the lunar eclipse..
Yes. Had a magnificent view. No cloud. Very red. Very black. I don’t bother with Halloween, but it should have been tonight… great ghoulish vibes

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 8 2022 11:37 utc | 199

Whenever I read an article that contains these words: Talmudic, the seventh nation, the Tribe.
It is automatically dismissed. Especially coming from here, where conspiracy theories are abundant. And the range from the funny to the wildly absurd. Now I am a happy camper been born Nordic in Scandinavia an as such can move to most places on Earth, but many, many people do not have that option (if any option) but to stay put and bear it out. It is difficult for me to imagine, having lived and worked in 3 continents, what it means to be confined to within the borders of your own country. Maybe that is because I am Danish, from a ridiculous small country of just 43 093 square miles, but very wealthy and with a high degree of education.

Posted by: Den Lille Abe | Nov 8 2022 13:17 utc | 200