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November 27, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-210
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Posted by: bevin | Nov 28 2022 14:47 utc | 271
Great article from Helmer with ideas about how things might be stabilised … I really hadn’t heard of the Zemledeliye rocket launched mine spreader before!
I was thinking more along the lines of defending an area by planting single launch rocket tubes that could be remotely activated and launched at anything in range without having to move artillery or rocket carrying vehicles around in the open.
Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 28 2022 17:29 utc | 301
LOL US worried about nuclear war due their involvement in Ukraine, Russia rush to calm the US down….which of course will only embolden the US even more!
US diplomat reveals contents of spy chief talks
Washington’s charge d’affaires in Moscow says the heads of the CIA and Russian intelligence had met to manage nuclear risks
https://swentr.site/news/567303-us-diplomat-spy-chiefs-talks-nuclear/
The intelligence is sure lacking on the russian side jesus…
Posted by: Zanon | Nov 28 2022 19:20 utc | 302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDpmhm4v5kM
Interesting comments by the Colonel about the “altercation” between Neo Nazis and mercenaries.
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 28 2022 20:06 utc | 303
The Helmer article (Et Tu | Nov 28 2022 11:39 utc | 230 and Bevin later) presents quite a radical solution – de-population of central Ukraine east of the Dnipr R. with complete infrastructure demolition – no electricity, cell service, transportation, water etc – and includes major cities like Kharkiv on the Kherson model. Population given a choice – go west or east or be considered a combatant if you choose to stay. Leaves out Kiev and Odessa, but Odessa with no electricity. Given the construction of the Russian defense line and its position, the deployment of Russian forces in the north and the steps taken against the electric grid and transport network I have to say that this scenario seems possible.
Posted by: the pessimist | Nov 28 2022 20:23 utc | 304
@karlof1 | Nov 28 2022 16:42 utc | 295
Thank you for pointing out Yefremenko’s essay at “Russia in Global Affairs”. [1]
The best presentation and analysis of the larger picture I have read in a long time. I have been assuming since the beginning of the year that we are in the midst of the beginning of a very significant development in terms of the global power structure, politically, economically, militarily.
What I also find noteworthy is that Yefremenko makes clear what is needed in Russia itself to meet this challenge – which represents an opportunity for a larger, broader mobilization of progessive forces far beyond Russia (thought in tandem with the emerging opportunities for many countries, especially in the “global South”):
“Somewhat belatedly, a majority of Russian citizens begin to realize that the very existence of their country as an integral, independent and sovereign state is at stake. They are getting aware that there is a long struggle ahead, and a great deal will have to be sacrificed for success. In this sense, the external forces’ expectations to see Russia’s internal destabilization still look illusive. However, the Russian leadership must realize that it will have to face increasingly growing public demands. It is very unlikely that the “deep people” will demand pluralistic democracy and liberalization of the political regime; rather they will demand social justice, rejection of the elites that have discredited themselves, the unblocking of social mobility elevators for those willing and able to become useful in the situation of the most acute confrontation with the West, and, on the contrary, the purging of the public administration system of incompetent and corrupt functionaries. These are the basic things constituting an emergency social contract that will have to be concluded in some form in order to save Russia during the transition to world order Z.”
In the big picture there are many partial pictures, let’s call it a mosaic. A lot can be achieved with the military action in Ukraine. This ranges from the liberation of the Donbass and other areas, the activation of the country’s own population to the strategic weakening of the West, especially the USA, on several levels. This, in turn, buys China time and space to prepare for the (most likely violent) confrontation the U.S. is seeking.
This reminds me of an interview with Russian political scientist and security expert Vasily Kashin (in German) shortly before the SMO began [1]. While he was wrong in his assessment that an invasion of Ukraine would not happen, by and large his comments were – and continue to be – accurate.
“Kashin: For our part, we will create military tensions permanently.
Ostexperte: But that is seen there as Russian aggression.
Kashin: Yes. But it is important to understand that our dialogue partner is not NATO as a whole, but the United States. The point is that it is important to see everything that is happening in Europe as part of U.S. geopolitics and global confrontation between great powers. It is not just about Europe now, this is part of a larger global structure. As far as I understand it, the actions of our government, our job is to keep the cost of confrontation with us high enough for the U.S. to compromise. If necessary, we can continue to pressure them like this for many years. Ultimately, they would then lose the fight with China in the Pacific, and they would also lose the second Cold War, which would end.”
As mentioned, a mosaic, many partial aspects, milestones, adjustments on the way, as well as various motivations and explanations for different parts of the population, as there would be, among other things, anti-fascist resistance with connection to the great patriotic war, help for endangered and persecuted, warring Russian-born or Russian-speaking/ Russophile people/countrymen in Ukraine (R2P!), Christian-historical as well as imperial-historical motives, connection to anti-colonialist movements of the past, etc. Partly this explains (different partial goals) also the very different assessments/reactions to the progress of the SMO – also here again and again a hot permanent topic.
Finally, a note especially to b. Is this already known here?
“A current constitutional complaint has been formulated by lawyer and physicist Alexander Unzicker on various aspects of the German government’s Ukraine policy. The complaint objects to Ukrainian military personnel being trained on the territory of the Federal Republic of Germany, and also claims that the German government should be prohibited from participating in the EU Military Assistance Mission to Ukraine (EUMAM Ukraine). The training of Ukrainian military personnel by other states, in particular the U.S., on German territory must be prohibited “by the exercise of German sovereign power.” The complaint is based on Article 2 II of the Basic Law: The training of Ukrainian military personnel could be interpreted as Germany’s entry into the war. This endangers life and health of all inhabitants of Germany at present and directly.” [3]
I know some publications by Unzicker, quite concise and well founded, as also this complaint. I am curious to see how the Federal Constitutional Court deals with it, and as a German citizen I expressly welcome the complaint.
Sorry for the long post, greetings and to all well-meaning, upright “drunkards” of this bar a good old Lagavulin as water of life.
[1] https://eng.globalaffairs.ru/articles/world-order-z/
[2] https://ostexperte.de/eine-beziehung-im-stil-des-kalten-krieges-ist-immer-riskant/
[3] https://www.nachdenkseiten.de/?p=90757
Posted by: SW (also Berlin) | Nov 28 2022 20:25 utc | 305
The zone proposed by Helmer can’t be that narrow, it won’t solve anything and a few hundred natoids, “mercenaries”, will turn all 4 new Russian regions into terror area using only a few himars or similar weapons. nato ca provide such systems forever, even as a single time use.
The zone should extend up to the Ukr borders. The will be the actual war zone, away from Donbass and the rest of regions by a few hundred kilometer. that area will be maintained a war zone for many years or decades. If Ukrainians don’t like it, better stop fighting or move away. As soon as depopulation happens mostly because of lack of energy, I expect Kiev to be “classically” bombed, as well as other cities like Lvov to exterminate terrorists hiding.
Posted by: rk | Nov 28 2022 20:37 utc | 306
@rk | Nov 28 2022 20:37 utc | 306
I don’t believe this is a ‘Helmer proposal’ and the maps differ with the two lower ones showing a very large area north of Dnipro as “demilitarized”. Yes, the buffer along the southern stretch of the river looks too narrow. The overall proposal looks pretty radical to me, but given that urban battles for cities are out, and the current/planned deployment of Russian forces, perhaps this is indeed the plan. It would solve a number of difficult problems for the Russians – just make the territory, including cities east of the river that have mixed loyalty populations, unlivable except for a peasant existence, deprive the remaining Ukrainian territory of economic viability, protect the new Russian oblasts, and stop the main conflict.
Posted by: the pessimist | Nov 28 2022 21:32 utc | 307
Without even looking at a map I think this so called “Helmer”proposal will stink of Western Imperial control just like the “armistice in Korea. Of course they are still at war as Outraged pointed out, only a complete dummy would call North Korea’s Missile program and ROK’s occupation by the US military anything other than a cold war.
Who in their right mind would want such an outcome for Ukraine and Russia? It is an inhumane imposed separation on an historical unified people. Exactly what Dr Uncle Sam would order but I can’t see Russia wanting this as an outcome.
Besides that would not achieve most of Russia’s stated aims would it?
Helmer writes some interesting opinion pieces but is very hit and miss.
Posted by: K | Nov 28 2022 22:10 utc | 310
@K | Nov 28 2022 22:10 utc | 310
Who in their right mind wants a war to begin with? Not an ideal solution, but perhaps it meets Russian objectives in the near term. Less destructive and less costly in terms of human lives than months on end urban warfare – Mariupol x 10.
Posted by: the pessimist | Nov 28 2022 22:21 utc | 311
@ Abcde | Nov 28 2022 15:58 utc | 288
Is not nitpicking. Is fact. Exit your propaganda mist false knowns/beliefs.
Helmer is wrong re the quoted statement. You are wrong. A fool, or just opinionated ignorance.
Please prove otherwise. Give it your best shot.
Wikipedia on Korean war is TLA shyte.
Though if you carefully drill into the non-armistice so called “Armistice document terms’, you’ll find your answer.
@ bevin | Nov 28 2022 16:01 utc | 290
Indeed am not in disagreement with Helmer. Only issue is perpetuating this US/western fraud … the quoted text … low effort.
The Armistice & end of Korean War that is NOT is yet another Empire BIG LIS.
One of the biggest. Along with US emplacing neutral nations, that were secret 5(+3)-Eyes/NATO affiliates unknown to the world as the two western members of the NNNC, conducting investigations/deremining disputes re the monitoring commission. Perfidy runs very deep on this issue from Sept ’45 onwards. And wikipedia on Korean War is TLA shyte.
Is there another blog that addresses the real problem rather than wall to wall war porn?
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 28 2022 12:33 utc | 245
Best to read some history and come to terms with what we are, what is. We watch the current conflict – Nazi’s watered and flourishing in Ukraine who’s only goal is to kill Russians, the non nazi’s thinking Russia is attacking them or those that don’t basically marched to the front lines at gunpoint, the Poles with their centuries old hatred of Russia….
And in the west the brainwashed masses look at their iphones. All that is required to end the wars is for the people of the anglo states to throw of the brainwashing and destroy the corrupt elite. These wars are for firstly American dominance, secondly anglo dominance. I put it that way because when the time comes, the US will sacrifice the other anglo states.
UN is a gentlemens agreement with no teeth. Minsk II was international law. The massive rise of Nazism in Ukraine in the last eight years, those that are not going to their deaths for a coke snorting comedian.
If you can work out how to prevent the average peasant from becoming brainwashed by high tech and low tech psyops then you have worked out how to prevent war.
We have just watched the 20 year war of terror. Fools brainwashed into islamic extremism – by us. They are mostly all dead now having killed 100’s of thousands of innocent people. I cheered for Russia, Syria Iran as they killed off these zombies and ended the war of terror.
Now US anglo land have declared Russia China as the targets of choice. Going by the recent elections in Taiwan, the taiwanese may not be completely brainwashed and can prevent themselves from becoming anglo cannon fodder.
I am no antivaxer but now I watch the excess death numbers from mRNA and the money rolling in to US big pharma. I watched those about me get injected with completely untested new technology, not even questioning it. Now I watch them die.
US had a setback with the Taiwan elections so now we see the A$ protests in China. Plenty of dumfucks there wide open to anglo colour revolutions but at least they have a good leadership who will wind it down with few or none hurt.
The US women’s revolution in Iran. A minority of fools wide open to US psyops. Many of those will die because the they are brainwashed enough to choose violence to further US interests. The Kurds… Kissinger said “It is dangerous to be our ally, but lethal to be our friend.
I cheer for all those that fight the anglo quest for world dominance with its rules based order. Be it the few that are not brainwashed here in the west or those that have to take up a gun on the other side.
There is no utopia, but Russia and China in their joint statement sure put forth a vision for a better world.
That better world can only come about with the destruction of the empire of lies.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 28 2022 22:36 utc | 313
@ K | Nov 28 2022 22:10 utc | 310
And the western propaganda fraud re a supposed Armistice that never was or is, is ongoing. No Armistice(1), no Peace treaty(2), by design, by US, keeps the War simmering hot since ’53. Merely a very broad & deep, deliberate misrepresentation of a local battlefield commanders ‘temporary’ ceasefire, that was supposed to result in 1 & 2. Never has. US had/has other ideas.
US has never ceded it’s UN military Command mandate in Korean Theater by UNSC (Russia was absent) and has no intention of doing so. Why ?
The DMZ concept in Helmer’s article would represent a strategic defeat for Russia and a failure of the SMO. A DMZ does not achieve the Russian objectives of a demilitarized, denazified, deNATOized, non-NATO neutral Ukraine, with adequate minority rights and protections for Russian speakers. A hostile, Russophobic Ukraine, pumped up on NATO steroids, with a large standing army, that is free to deploy long range missiles and radars (domestic and/or foreign) is the antithesis of Russian victory … regardless of whether or not it’s somewhat of a rump Ukraine.
Russia needs to force a Ukrainian surrender to achieve it’s objectives. You can call it negotiations, but effectively it will have to be a Ukrainian surrender. The terms of surrender will require limitations on the Ukraine military both in terms of numbers and weapon types. Anything less, is a Russian defeat.
Posted by: Mike314159 | Nov 28 2022 23:03 utc | 315
Who in their right mind wants a war to begin with? Not an ideal solution, but perhaps it meets Russian objectives in the near term. Less destructive and less costly in terms of human lives than months on end urban warfare – Mariupol x 10.
Posted by: the pessimist | Nov 28 2022 22:21 utc | 311
Well you and I both know the answer to that question in the case of both Korea and Ukraine. Forever wars to fund the MIC is the goal.
Posted by: K | Nov 28 2022 23:05 utc | 316
Consortium News has some new stuff today. There is Patrick Lawrence on Chou and the Five Principles and there is this
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/11/28/campaigning-to-free-ukraines-kononovich-brothers/
What Ukraine’s government does is done with the complicity of ours in the west. If these young communists are being tortured by the secret police we are paying for it, supplying the instruments of torture and shielding the torturers from action. In the 1930s the “west” did and said nothing while thousands of communists were being tortured and killed in Austria, Germany, Italy and Spain (and elsewhere). Not a word of protest or a threat of sanction. They were communists. The Nazis learned from the experience that they could act with impunity when dealing with critics of capitalism. Nothing changed.
Posted by: bevin | Nov 28 2022 23:21 utc | 317
@SwissArmyMan | Nov 28 2022 17:25 utc | 300
The “Korea” style end to this might be the fantasy face saving stop that is the best the west can hope for.
The best the west can hope for would be wonderful for the US and its lackeys, much more than a face saving.
For seventy years and counting the US-DPRK armistice has provided the US with the present that keeps on giving, to include the largest foreign US base (Camp Humphreys) located in East Asia. In fact South Korea recently paid the lion’s share of the nearly $10.8 billion cost to expand Camp Humphreys from an airfield to the equivalent of a small town. Nearby is Osan US Air Base, one air-hour from Beijing.
Since the war in the 1950s the US had maintained control over the 30,000 US troops but also the entire half-million strong South Korean military. US Forces Korea (USFK) were integrated with ROK forces into a Combined Forces Command, which was in turned integrated into the United Nations Command. All three commands are headed by the same person – a four-star US general.
What a marvelous situation for the US. Trump tried to end it with the US-DPRK ‘Singapore Accords” but of course that went nowhere.
The Pentagon would be elated with such a Korea-like situation in eastern Europe.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 28 2022 23:22 utc | 318
SW (also Berlin) @305–
Thanks very much for your reply. Yes, a mosaic is an apt description. Lavrov’s words in his interview today were solemn yet pointed–there’s currently no European person in power to talk to as they’re all Gobbelized.
I predict the court will rule against the complaint thus making a mockery of Germany’s Constitution.
US has never ceded it’s UN military Command mandate in Korean Theater by UNSC (Russia was absent) and has no intention of doing so. Why ?
Posted by: Outraged | Nov 28 2022 22:39 utc | 314
Why Indeed ?see my reply at 316
sadly its just the same old same old $$$
I do not see Russia accepting this kind of outcome, of course I can’t predict but I don’t wish it on them or Ukraine.
Posted by: K | Nov 28 2022 23:37 utc | 320
From Scotland Today.
https://scotlandtoday.online/bye-bye-kiev-hello-cote-dazur-as-westerners-send-aid-heres-how-ukraines-corrupt-elites-are-profiting-from-the-conflict
In the summer and early fall of 2022, Ukrainska Pravda prepared several investigative documentaries about fit-for-service Ukrainian billionaires and officials spotted vacationing on the Côte d’Azur during the war. A movie with the ironic title ‘The Monaco Battalion’ shows Ukrainian oligarchs resting at their villas, mansions, and on yachts. In the first part, we see businessman Konstantin Zhevago, who is included on Interpol’s wanted list, relaxing on his private yacht worth $70 million. The yacht graces the shoreline of the Côte d’Azur as Zhevago’s family disembarks. Kharkov entrepreneur Alexander Yaroslavsky, who promised to sell his yacht and transfer the funds towards the restoration of Kharkov, can be seen sailing alongside.
The article goes on at length. The money is being diverted to oligarch bank accounts, fleeing tycoons and the equipment to the black market. Part of me is glad that the Republicans took the HoR for the simple reason that they’re the only ones even suggesting an audit into this massive spigot of cash.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 28 2022 23:54 utc | 321
Continuing the article excerpted above:
As they go about acquiring luxurious clothes and cars, the thieves are also taking care to withdraw capital from Ukraine.
According to the Bureau of Economic Security of Ukraine, Ukraine’s budget is missing UAH 4.5 billion worth of taxes from agro traders:
“In August-September 2022, almost 12 million tons of grain crops and oil estimated at UAH 137 billion were exported through the customs territory of Ukraine. Of these, almost 4 million tons were exported by fake companies existing only on paper.” Moreover, “most of the non-resident companies to which grain is exported are high-risk and involved in criminal investigations.”
Is this the ‘grain deal’ that the global community is actively cheering for? It looks like Ukrainian fraudsters are corrupting not just their own country, but foreign states as well. And this is just one example out of many.
When the Surkis brothers left Ukraine, they took $17 million with them. But that’s just a trifle compared to the ‘heroes of the Euromaidan’. According to former People’s Deputy of Ukraine Oleg Tsarev, after the outbreak of hostilities, leading Ukrainian politicians sent both their capital and their families abroad.
He mentions that the parents and relatives of Zelensky and his wife all left the country. His predecessor, former President Pyotr Poroshenko, moved not just his children but also about a billion US dollars in cash to the UK.
The same applies to other major Ukrainian officials: former Minister of Internal Affairs Arsen Avakov, the head of the Office of the President, Andrey Yermak, the second president of Ukraine, Leonid Kuchma, former Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk, and many others all took their families and fortunes, estimated at around a billion dollars, out of the country. And that’s not to mention the numerous politically-affiliated oligarchs.
Scammers of smaller stature can “individually join the EU” as well. A system of bribery allows military-age males to leave the country. According to Izvestia, the fee is currently between $8,000 and $10,000. The Ukrainian media also actively reports on people paying to cross the border.
The sympathy of Westerners towards a country at war is understandable. But while some countries are doing their utmost to aid Ukraine – even while facing an economic crisis themselves – corrupt Ukrainian officials are using the funding to amass personal fortunes and live the high life at fancy resorts. And all at the expense of taxpayers in the West.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 28 2022 23:56 utc | 322
There are so many posters talking from the top off their (piss)heads that the noise is (deafening)…
Posted by: Abcde | Nov 28 2022 15:58 utc | 288
Now ain’t that the truth.
Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 29 2022 2:56 utc | 323
Posted by: Lapin | Nov 28 2022 8:37 utc | 187……
“…The single delivery from Australia was 100×10^6 m^3
So to replace NS they require 1100 deliveries per annum; assume 10% loss for gasification we get to 1200 loads per annum.
Or 100 a month, or about 3 per day every day.
Approx 30 days sailing time inbound means about 90 ships continuously at sea inbound and 90 at sea outbound, so a fleet of about 200 ships which do not yet exist.
So, an example of a brilliant plan. Worthy of Trampolina herself…”
Thanks for the reality check Lapin. I guess the media release is good for morale but not effective for the cold weather.
Posted by: Paul GV | Nov 29 2022 3:18 utc | 324
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 28 2022 9:36 utc | 199
I don’t know uncle T. Maybe a Panamax?
Whatever way they go, they have lost the SMO.
Posted by: Paul GV | Nov 29 2022 3:25 utc | 325
IMO, talk of a DMZ is a trial balloon that will go nowhere.
karlof1 | 295
I don’t understand what that comment is supposed to mean. A trail balloon for *who* to see and supposedly then act upon the *idea*? In this case who is the *they* who are going to reject it, according to you Karl (when saying “will go nowhere”)?
Helmer is sending up a trial balloon? To what ends? To create a “public conversation” that ends up going no where? You could say that about almost everyone’s articles everyday. Meaning the comment is a non-comment which carries no meaning at face value. So I’m wondering is there something behind it unsaid?
IMO, the realization that all Ukraine must be recovered is now recognized by Russia’s leaders. @karlof1 | 295
And K, you base this ‘opinion’ on what evidence and knowledge? There is none to be found in WoZ article nor your quote (that I can see.) Or is it merely an intuitive sense, a premonition kind of thing, a gut feel?
Besides that, what does the word “recovered” mean in the context? All Ukraine is marked for subsequent ‘annexation’, OR some other kind of ‘recovered’- which is a weird word to be used for such a notion of territorial control/ownership IMO.
Unless one wishes to look upon Russia as a Colonial power over Ukraine since the 1922 – which is the first time it really existed / defined within it’s 20th/21st century borders.
Like when did Russia ever LOSE Ukraine (or the Ukrainian SSR) to need to ‘recover’ it? It’s not anything like Crimea. The word ‘recover Ukraine’ makes no logical ontological sense on the ground nor in history.
Unless one seeks to re-impose the territory held by the western Russian Empire pre-Revolution
eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire#/media/File:Evropayskye_gubernii_Rossii_1910.png
This might mean that Russia wipes out Ukraine as a modern state and pushes it’s military and it’s national borders all the way to Moldova, Poland and Romania, Slovakia and Hungary – all but one are NATO states.
Then what happens and how does this benefit (or solve) any of Russia’s existential problems – assuming the US still refuses to agree to Putin’s strategic peace treaty initiative of last Dec.?
So why on earth would “Russian Leaders” even be considering such a thing now let alone already recognized (decided) that “all Ukraine must be recovered“???
So many questions with even more unknown answers.
I’m certain more discussion of the essay (world order Z), Crooke’s al-Mayadeen column, and his next SCF essay will occur on the next thread.
Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 28 2022 16:42 utc | 295
No surprises there. Because you’ll be at least one who will definitely be discussing these items Karl.
I am psychic and can predict the future too – “I’m certain” Karl won’t be responding to any of my questions. He will not explain nor clarify anything at all to assist me or anyone else for that matter. He never partakes of the cheap seats at the bar. Too beneath him, apparently. I don’t really know why.
I can only presume and guess – the exact same thing everyone does on the subject of Ukraine.
Comments upon comments upon articles being lost forever in cyber-space.
Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 29 2022 4:25 utc | 326
I could access this site https://eng.globalaffairs.ru/articles/world-order-z/ yesterday, but not today. Anyone else have connection issues?
Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 29 2022 4:40 utc | 327
@ SeanAU | Nov 29 2022 4:40 utc | 327
ditto..
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Posted by: james | Nov 29 2022 4:44 utc | 328
Here is the thing about the proposed de-electrified DMZ – the cities within the zone become unlivable, lacking basic services, so the populations will have to choose – east or west and leave. This potentially solves the urban warfare problem and the de-nazification issue for Russia as they can begin to re-occupy this zone from the east and north after a period of time while preventing Ukraine from doing the same from their side.
Posted by: the pessimist | Nov 29 2022 5:15 utc | 329
@ SeanAU | Nov 29 2022 4:25 utc | 326
tri·al bal·loon
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noun: trial balloon; plural noun: trial balloons
a tentative measure taken or statement made to see how a new policy will be received.
“different members of the cabinet are sending up one trial balloon after another”
Origin
1930s: from translation of French ballon d’essai .
Google Search. I don’t believe anyone here owes you an education, but if Karlof ignores your idiotic rant he might be using that Tampermonkey script you boasted of on you
Posted by: Laurence | Nov 29 2022 5:43 utc | 330
And K, you base this ‘opinion’ on what evidence and knowledge? There is none to be found in WoZ article nor your quote (that I can see.) Or is it merely an intuitive sense, a premonition kind of thing, a gut feel?
Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 29 2022 4:25 utc | 326
I have no idea what you are referring to. I didn’t quote any WoZ article, don’t even know what that is? All I did was respond to other posters comments on the DMZ in Korea as a comparison to the possibility in Ukraine. if you want me to respond please be more specific.
Posted by: K | Nov 29 2022 5:49 utc | 331
Comment by Peter AU1 | November 28, 2022 at 08:41 | Permalink
Peter, the thought of Downer is… well… a downer.
I’ll banish his fruity accent and his puffy visage from my mind forthwith.
Posted by: Paul GV | Nov 29 2022 6:56 utc | 333
K | Nov 29 2022 5:49 utc | 331
Sorry for confusion, that was to a Karlof1 comment. I used shorthand.
Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 29 2022 9:54 utc | 334
I am genuinely sorry that people are screaming at you for being ‘normal’.
Posted by: Paul McGrory | Nov 27 2022 21:24 utc | 101
You should be sorry. You are part of the reason that nobody respects the West anymore. Transgender liberal activists are a threat to the world. They suffer from mental illness and degrade themselves. Worse, they abuse children with inhuman surgeries.
Russia is simply a normal nation. God bless them.
Posted by: Augustus Caesar | Nov 29 2022 11:45 utc | 335
Helmer’s “proposal” is no better that US free-fire zones in Vietnam. An excuse to murder civilians. Bevin, I’ve followed you with great respect on here for years and am ashamed to see you talk of such a crime positively.
On top of that, it’s a disgusting idea to remove that much of earth’s bounty – some of the richest we have – from humanity.
Posted by: G77 | Nov 29 2022 14:05 utc | 336
Macgregor gives timeline
Macgregor lays out the coming Russian offensive, predicting that between December 10th and 20th the Russians will move.
Skip the first 16 minutes– barflies know all of what he’s saying– and then watch from 16 to the end, 24 minutes.
bottom line, Ukraine in last stages of collapse, mass refugee exodus building, Europe will scream, U.S. will scramble and try to rewrite the script, Russia will prevail and the Global South will increase support and ties with Russia.
Merry Christmas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3MkvWxdJrU
Posted by: migueljose | Nov 29 2022 14:52 utc | 337
LOL is it not the UN it is the IAEA that russia beg for help
IAEA’s call on Kiev to stop shelling Zaporozhye NPP could help ease tensions — politician
https://tass.com/world/1543007
Have you ever seen an alleged superpower, in a middle of a war, whine like this?
Obviously Zelensky is way too strong, obviously, for Russia to stop these attacks.
Posted by: Zanon | Nov 29 2022 15:04 utc | 338
Merry Christmas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3MkvWxdJrU
Posted by: migueljose | Nov 29 2022 14:52 utc | 337
Macgregor makes the point at the end that the Biden admin won’t tell Zelensky the game is over and that he’ll have to concede territory, because that would be an admission that they were wrong about Ukraine being able to bully Russia with their help.
It’s going to be a long and bitter winter for Ukrainians and the EU countries. But hey, “Fuck the EU”, right?
Posted by: Gt Stroller | Nov 29 2022 15:37 utc | 339
B From now on I suggest that you refer to her as Amilena baerback. Regards P
Posted by: j arther nast | Nov 29 2022 16:15 utc | 340
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/putins-remedy-a-fragmented-toothless-ukraine-separated-by-a-100-kilometer-wide-no-mans-land/
New article by Whitney reporting on hearsay that RF plans a demilitarized 100 km buffer zone.
Main source cited is Helmer.
http://johnhelmer.net/ukraine-armistice-how-the-udz-of-2023-will-separate-the-armies-like-the-korean-dmz-of-1953/#more-70281
194 margo
Re:Boeing proposal to turn the unguided M-26 rocket into a guided rocket or carrier of a guided bomb…
Here is a link to the specs of an M-26 unguided rocket.
https://en.missilery.info/missile/mlrs/m26
Specs say “no longer in production” “removed from service” “relatively short range” and ” practically ineffective against armored targets.” Dates from 1991, range about 31 km.
Is Boeing referring to an a completely different M-26 rocket? I don’t see how this one could strike “far behind
Russian lines if it only has a 31 km range.
Posted by: nazcalito | Dec 16 2022 23:40 utc | 342