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November 27, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-210

Only for news & views directly related to the Ukraine conflict.

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Posted by: Augustus Caesar | Nov 27 2022 19:54 utc | 87
I am genuinely sorry that people are screaming at you for being ‘normal’. It may distress you to know that in the Russian Federation transgender people are allowed to change their legal gender without requiring sex reassignment surgery. Homosexuality has been de-classified as a mental illness.In Soviet Russia, sex reassignment surgeries were first tried during the 1920s. Later they were performed by Irina Golubeva, an endocrinologist, authorized by psychiatrist Aron Belkin, who was the strongest Soviet advocate for transgender people until his death in 2003. So please take your hysteria somewhere else. Russia is not your champion in prejudice. Unless like the CIA and NED you would like to portray the Russian Federation this way as part of the propaganda war against Russia.

Posted by: Paul McGrory | Nov 27 2022 21:24 utc | 101

“The Russian Embassy saying what Canadians and Americans are forbidden to say is them showing an example of true freedom in action, and is a sign to westerners that Russia is holding up an example of liberty and freedom that citizens in the US and Canada have lost, the right to say the obvious in public.”
Posted by: wagelaborer | Nov 27 2022 20:48 utc | 95
I think this actually a strategy from the Trudeau administration/regime (whatever you prefer) working together with the help of the Russian embassy in Canada to tackle some of the entrenched foreign policy bureaucracy, which is where these decisions are originating. If you look at the provincial leaders in Canada, they are much more conservative in social outlook than those sitting at desks in the unelected federal foreign policy department. It appears those same bureaucrats are also instigating a war/unrest with Russia and that has created an opportunity to take action about it. Well, it’s created pressure/support (whatever you prefer) from the Kremlin. My 2 cents.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Nov 27 2022 21:27 utc | 102

Posted by: wagelaborer | Nov 27 2022 20:48 utc | 95
Under Russian Federation law people can change their gender without re-assignment surgery and their chosen gender recognised. Stop spreading American propaganda about Russia. Transgender rights are recognised in the Russian Federation. Project your prejudice elsewhere.

Posted by: Paul McGrory | Nov 27 2022 21:27 utc | 103

Nick@43…in WW1 the trench water was waist deep. My grandfather spent his fair share of time in them. He said it was water, mud, blood, human waste and Lice. Every six weeks the Quartermaster came with new uniforms. They were called up out of the trenches and changed clothes right there on the spot. All the discarded uniforms were then piled up and burned.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 27 2022 21:37 utc | 104

Bazil no. 96
“Morawiecki, meanwhile, caused some controversy by suggesting in his speech that Germany, which was occupying Ukraine when most of the massacres took place, was ultimately responsible for them.”
Yes. A very pertinent question.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Nov 27 2022 21:46 utc | 105

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 27 2022 18:47 utc | 72
16th Feb: Felicity Ace fire.
20th Feb: Credit Suisse leak.
Both those events would have been easy enough for Empire saboteurs to engineer, both put non-US interests on the back foot, and both occur in the window of time prior to the 24th when US-allied intelligence was probably certain that Russia was days away from sending its troops into Ukraine.

Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 27 2022 21:47 utc | 106

President of #Kazakhstan Tokayev arrived on an official visit to Moscow, where he will hold talks with Putin on November 28.
This is Tokayev’s first foreign visit after his re-election as President of the Republic of Kazakhstan.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 27 2022 21:47 utc | 107

“”Transgender rights are recognised in the Russian Federation….””
Probably.
But this strutting, mincing “bitch” found “attitude” doesn’t impress law enforcement.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MaimunkaNews/status/1596962399713886208

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 27 2022 21:52 utc | 108

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 27 2022 21:52 utc | 107
Nothing to do with transgender, sweetie.
that’s a trannie, someone dressed up, or drag artist.

Posted by: laguerre | Nov 27 2022 21:59 utc | 109

@ David F | Nov 27 2022 19:38 utc | 85
@ David F | Nov 27 2022 19:53 utc | 86
These same efficient and thorough germans failed to detect that her phone was tapped by the NSA.
Zee germans are quite efficient & thorough. Which German State agencies responsible for her personal safety & device security, work with & on behalf of the 5(+3)-Eyes/9-Eyes & Empire since inception ?
Suggested basic research tasks re your apparent assumptions:
Gehlen organization, led by ?
Gehlen org transplanted whole post VE Day into ?
Rinsed & de-nazified leadership/managers & subsequent hires enabled & facilitated by ?
Said State Intelligence/Security organs under the direct control of & reporting to, ever since, ~77 years now ?
Then suggest reading Tom_12’s posts re Merkel & her sudden heightened awareness re self-preservation.
Further supplementary research: KAL007, MH17, MH370 … USS Liberty …

Posted by: Outraged | Nov 27 2022 22:00 utc | 110

He did ?????
Where can we find a confirmation of this ????
Posted by: Tom_12 | Nov 27 2022 17:13 utc | 49
an example:https://notesfrompoland.com/2022/07/12/russias-war-offers-chance-for-poland-and-ukraine-to-reconcile-over-wwii-massacre-says-polish-pm/
Posted by: Bazil | Nov 27 2022 20:54 utc | 96
OK Brazil, my complete comment # 49 is as found below,
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For cognitive dissonance, this one by this moron Morawiecki….Prime Minister of Poland Mateusz Morawiecki at the monument to the victims of the Volhynia massacre, later paying tribute to Stepan Bandera, the murderer…
https://t.me/DAVlDru/6382
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 14:50 utc | 17
He did ?????
Where can we find a confirmation of this ????
Posted by: Tom_12 | Nov 27 2022 17:13 utc | 49
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Do you see the part in bold ? I did that. Why do you imagine I put it in bold ? In case you don’t know I will tell you. The contention is NOT that he went to lay flowers on a Wolyn Memorial. The contention is that he ALSO WENT to do that at some Bandera statue, which supposedly is “evidenced” by the second photo in the link.
Did you find that second photo in some news article ? Безмозгов couldn’t provide such a news article, but only a retort that I need glasses. Perhaps you have better luck so let me see it.
Now look at my comment —-> Posted by: Tom_12 | Nov 27 2022 17:47 utc | 59

Posted by: Tom_12 | Nov 27 2022 22:05 utc | 111

I have read that the human wave attacks against the Allied forces in the Korean War were initially conducted by former soldiers in the Nationalist army who had surrendered to the People’s Liberation Army.

Posted by: Lysias | Nov 27 2022 22:12 utc | 112

https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1596976563962413058
Tymofiy Mylovanov
President, Kyiv School of Economics; Adviser, Zelensky administration; Minister of economy, Ukraine, 2019-2020; Associate professor, University of Pittsburgh

Day 5 after the latest Russian attack on Kyiv. Day 277 of the war. I am president of the Kyiv School of Economics, a former minister of economy of Ukraine, and a professor of economics at the University of Pittsburgh. I left the US for Kyiv 4 days before the war 1/
and stayed there, with some short trips outside of Ukraine for fundraising. Officially, I am on sabbatical leave from Pittsburgh this year. I guess not many people have field sabbaticals, here the field is a war. I left the US because I must lead the Kyiv School of 2/
Economics through the war. I hold a green card and can leave Ukraine at any moment. But I do not want to and will not do it. Now, back to my day. It was busy and I am tired. Shopping, looking and assembling things. In short, preparing for another likely Russian attack tomorrow 3/
Many people suggested that we can sleep in a tent in our bedroom. So we dug out sleeping bags and went to buy a tent. 4/
The shops were open and it was Black Friday. Everything on sale. But when we were about to pay, the electricity went off. The shop had a battery and continued to run. They used Xmas lights to save electricity instead of their regular ones. It was very cozy. Here is a pic. 5/
Many people suggested that when the electricity and heating go out, we use candles or gas / kerosine heaters to warm the apartment. We decided against it. First, it is not too safe for novices. Second, none are on the market or we could find. So, we drove to 6/
another store to get at least some wood and coal. The plan is to use an simple and small firewood oven that we can set up on our balcony if all else fails. How do you drive when there is no lights in the city, that is, no traffic lights? Traffic police come out! My respect! 7/
We wanted to try the firewood idea, just to practice, when we get home. But we got exhausted bringing all this stuff to the 8th floor. So, we will try it another time. Will post the picture. Yet, my wife wanted some tea anyway. And also she wanted to get hot water 8/
for the morning. She asked me to start the generator so she can use electric tea pot. I did and discovered another problem. The snow on the balcony has melted. And the generator was sliding towards the windows because of vibration. I need a way to fix it in place, but that’s 9/
for tomorrow. Anyway, the water is boiled and stored in thermoses. We have two, one liter each. Perhaps, we should get more. We can probably order them delivered. Here is a pic of a delivery man on a bike 90 mins before the curfew. 10/

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 27 2022 22:27 utc | 113

Russia has slowed down the destruction of Ukraine energy infrastructure, just long enough for them to patch those things up. Then Russia will promptly destroy them again. Much more soul destroying for Ukraine that way

You would be excused for thinking so, but I’m thinking that they’re just marking it off as destroyed so they can quit working and go back to picking track suits to wear.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Nov 27 2022 22:33 utc | 114

Posted by: Paul McGrory | Nov 27 2022 21:24 utc | 100
” It may distress you to know that in the Russian Federation transgender people are allowed to change their legal gender without requiring sex reassignment surgery. Homosexuality has been de-classified as a mental illness.”
Link, please.

Posted by: comrade simba | Nov 27 2022 22:35 utc | 115

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 27 2022 22:27 utc | 112
That reads like the script of a decent disaster movie. Is this guy for real?

Posted by: alek_a | Nov 27 2022 22:39 utc | 116

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Nov 27 2022 22:33 utc | 113
Youre a funny guy, arent you?

Posted by: alek_a | Nov 27 2022 22:40 utc | 117

>> Prime Minister of Poland Mateusz Morawiecki …. paying tribute to Stepan Bandera, the murderer…
> He did ?????
I heard it he did not.
I heard it that the high-res files of the “tribute to Bandera” shows bad blurring at the edges and most probably is not very competent editing of the previous, Wolhyne Massacre photo. I also heard that some bloggers who were eager to repost this “breaking” news later removed those posts. Example: https://t.me/vityzeva/74084

Posted by: Arioch | Nov 27 2022 22:44 utc | 118

When you really, really, REALLY love anime….
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-planned-attack-japan-2021-fsb-letters-1762133
A letter authored by the whistleblower…. has been analyzed by Christo Grozev, an expert on the FSB.
In August 2021, Russia was “quite seriously preparing for a localized military conflict with Japan,” the agent said in an email to Osechkin in March. The FSB agent suggested that Russia instead chose to invade Ukraine months later.
“Confidence that the countries would enter the stage of acute confrontation and even war was high. Why Ukraine was chosen for war in the end [the scenario was not changed much] is for others to answer,” they wrote.

It all makes sense now, doesn’t it, flies?
I can’t help linking a popular Russian meme here: http://neolurk.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%82_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B4_%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B9

Posted by: Arioch | Nov 27 2022 22:50 utc | 119

@ wagelaborer, #95
Too many coddled, participation trophy now turned adults westerners who have few to no practical skills, such as being to keep themselves alive in some sort of sustained crisis.
I spent part of this weekend afternoons (beautiful late Nov autumn weather) scrapping out an old big outdoor gas grill that has served us well for 15+ years but its time had come to update to something newer and smaller. I could have paid my trash hauler extra coin to pick it up and let it be crushed in our regional landfill but I like recycling metal. I ended up with 4 metal piles of various scrap value and possibly a pile of parts that could be still used and maybe sold on ebay. I’ll probably get about $15 USD for my scrap.
I live in a medium sized Midwestern metro area where most people are probably only 1 to 2 generations removed from the farm but I bet less than a fraction of 1% of the population has actually put in time to scrap something such as this old grill. All they see is my time invested and the little money I can make and think nothing of any practical skill (such as knowing a few hand tools, etc) involved in the effort. Or just honest enjoyment of say recycling. Most middle class Americans have just had too easy of lives that then leads to the weird excesses you mention in #95.

Posted by: DakotaRog | Nov 27 2022 23:00 utc | 120

@ Lysias | Nov 27 2022 22:12 utc | 111
I have read that the human wave attacks against the Allied forces in the Korean War were initially conducted by former soldiers in the Nationalist army who had surrendered to the People’s Liberation Army.
1. There were no ‘Human Wave attacks’. I say again, there were no ‘Human Wave attacks’.
Propaganda myth/trope created to explain the total combat ineffectiveness of US/UN forces vs PVA unsupported light infantry.
2. Former soldiers in the Nationalist army who had ‘surrendered’ to the People’s Liberation Army during the Chinese Civil War ?
Minimally & only partially true, though yet more manipulative propaganda. Manpower strength of KMT forces at start of Civil War vs PLA ?
At conclusion in ’49 ?
Through that period ~4M KMT troops, in whole units, Division & above voluntarily changed sides, en mass in increasing numbers as Civil War progresses, thence voluntarily incorporated into PLA. Why ?
The hardcore remnants of the KMT fled to Taiwan on US aircraft & vessels.
PVA in Korean was the same size as US/UN forces, 1:1 ratio re manpower … there be no hordes … PLA & PVA used highly developed light infantry ‘fire & maneuver’ tactics based around base Company strength, developed over previous 19 years warfare, excellent use of terrain & features, as well as highly developed infiltration & blocking tactics … at scale. As opposed to road bound(See: Street without Joy) US/UN with zero effective flank & rear security, poor inter unit communication, co-ordination, especially at the contact line & adjacent units (adjacent having gaps between of Kms). Militarily incompetent & inexscusable, given only five years since VE Day …
Light infantry with small arms only, little arty & few shells, no armor, no airforce, no navy, 18th century logistics, at 1:1 ratio on offensive, utterly defeated US/UN & drove ’em back to 38th Parallel. Longest retreat in US military history … buried ever since … read the shyte on Wikipedia & vomit.
PVA against, Naval CVA fleets(plural), USAF/UN air fleets absolute air dominance, armor, Arty & ammo out the kazoo, etc, etc, etc …
Percentage of US/UN troops being ‘Spear’ as opposed to REMFs ? In the PVA ?
And supposedly Nth Korea ‘surprise’ invaded Sth Korea in 1950 for absolutely no reason at all ? Really ?
Another highly entrenched propaganda LIE.
What had been occurring since US amphibious force landings & establishment of imposed US military Governor since Sept 45 til ’48, thence to start Korean War ? US & it’s former IJA Korean officers/collaborationist filled US installed military Dictatorship as Sth Korea State from ’48 onwards was doing what exactly, including over & into the DPRK borders/State let alone to & with the Sth Korean populace ? Hm ?
See: United States Army Military Government in Korea (USAMGIK), etc. NOT Wikipedia, it is all BS on Korea.

Posted by: Outraged | Nov 27 2022 23:03 utc | 121

Homosexuality has been de-classified as a mental illness.
Posted by: Paul McGrory | Nov 27 2022 21:24 utc | 100
Huh? If so, that’s troubling, and it’s a sign of degeneracy. Homosexuality is a mental illness. I echo the request for a link.

Posted by: Tichy | Nov 27 2022 23:14 utc | 122

Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 20:02 utc | 91

Necessary collaborators in the preparations for the total ruin and enslavization of Europe are:
… …

Today – that’s a well 100-percent listed persons that performing destruction everywhere in EU and worldwide continuosly.
May put them all to a new “Black List” (perhaps created by Iran), sample some money and then pls. give an order ie. to Wagner PMC, etc. to work for their jobs …
Now !

Posted by: Spare_Truth | Nov 27 2022 23:22 utc | 123

@Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 27 2022 22:27 utc | 112
I can see plenty of electricity at the KSE ( Kyiv School of Economics ), since, after all, who is going to study there with this Timofyi recently arrived from the US?
The Ukrainian elite´s children who then will apply the neoliberal policies to the remaining Ukrainian people…Gauleiters….
It is in the KSE, as it has been in the London School of Economics, where our executioners have studied and study and the US/UK deep states select their foreign agents…

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 23:41 utc | 124

The Reading Junkie wrote about the so called love of all things LGBT so suddenly manifested in the Westernaganda and why this is a tool to use against Russia, Iran, Syria, etc, alongside excresences like Pussy Riot:
(Search engine The Reading Junkie because repeated steps to post the link to his article failed to show my reply as being posted on here.)
Once upon a time, back in ye olde year of 2012 for example, I was pro gay rights. I would have considered appearing side by side with homosexual people in public fora. But then I realised that “gay rights” was not about gay rights: it was a political programme to be used as an imperialist tool, just like the original 19th century “civilising mission” of the Europistani colonialists was the excuse to attack, occupy, enslave, and loot Asia and Africa. Further, there is no end to this “gay rights” thing: first it was homosexual people, then “transgenders”, then whatever “gender fluid” is, then people claiming they can choose their own pronouns, and now it’s no surprise that ephebophiles and paedophiles demand inclusion in this patently political power grab jamboree. From being pro gay rights I have – this is only part of my 180° away from liberalism – become at best neutral, and am on the verge of joining, the “totally against” side. And it is the political imperialist agenda of the LGBTACDEFHIJKMNOPQRSUVWXYZ lot that is responsible for this.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 27 2022 23:46 utc | 125

((Avdeevka will soon be liberated from the Kiev nazi scum))

Posted by: ((Givi)) | Nov 27 2022 23:54 utc | 126

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 27 2022 23:46 utc | 124
I don’t automatically hate mentally ill people but that doesn’t mean I can’t call a spade a spade.
Now, homosexuality is a mental illness that prohibits you from reproducing. I think that might be a reason it’s so popular with the tyrants of the decaying West.

Posted by: Tichy | Nov 27 2022 23:58 utc | 127

I believe the dynamic has been that promises were made and noe zelensky expects delivery. When there is reluctance, the war slows down and there leaks some discussion of peace. This is normally enough to get the money and arms flowing.
Ukraine can take it up a notch as required by threatening, promoting mass emmigration.

Posted by: jared | Nov 28 2022 0:03 utc | 128

((Givi)) | Nov 27 2022 23:54 utc | 125
“” ((Avdeevka will soon be liberated from the Kiev nazi scum)) “”
How soon do you figure? … days, weeks, by Christmas?

Posted by: Mummer | Nov 28 2022 0:04 utc | 129

“Humanity never learns.” Or, as R. W. Emerson said, “Society never advances.”
“It recedes as fast on one side as it gains on the other. It undergoes continual changes; it is barbarous, it is civilized, it is christianized, it is rich, it is scientific; but this change is not amelioration. For every thing that is given, something is taken.”

Posted by: Kaz | Nov 28 2022 0:10 utc | 130

Posted by: Mummer | Nov 28 2022 0:04 utc | 128
((The troops there are short on supplies. Its getting worse for them as our forces begin to take control of supply routes to the N and S. It will happen quickly. A mass retreat. Before the christmas))

Posted by: ((Givi)) | Nov 28 2022 0:18 utc | 131

Scott Ritter waxes eloquent with some others 27 November:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvv6aOOhEa0
utoob 1hr 15 mins.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 28 2022 0:35 utc | 132

For those still tenacious enough to keep sending “alt” info to your network…
Here’s what the western media said about Ukraine nazis before 2022.
https://twitter.com/EddyCormon/status/1596922179069030400

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 28 2022 0:36 utc | 133

((Kirill Zubkov, Bandera fan and Nazi serviceman from Lviv, of the Ukrainian Gau Abwehr, has been sent to his place in HELL))

Posted by: ((Givi)) | Nov 28 2022 0:39 utc | 134

I have a diamond in my hand.

Posted by: David F | Nov 28 2022 0:40 utc | 135

Posted by: whirlX | Nov 27 2022 19:09 utc | 80

I do hope that this time EU citizens will not forget who was who and one day will seek and find accountable those who created and supported this mess.
I am sure there is a list of such persons in the making. Probably RF has one too.

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 20:02 utc | 91

Necessary collaborators in the preparations for the total ruin and enslavization of Europe are:
… …

Suggestion to that comment-91 done @122 : May create a new “Black List” …
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 23:41 utc | 123

I can see plenty of electricity at the KSE ( Kyiv School of Economics ), since, after all, who is going to study there with this Timofyi recently arrived from the US?

It is in the KSE, as it has been in the London School of Economics, where our executioners have studied and study and the US/UK deep states select their foreign agents…

I agree with upper referred commentators ..
May think about this “new” Black-List, probably created by elsewho (Iran?) if you MoAs like it as for a “final” solution on war-leaders ..?!
I’ve doubts to that – but thinking is still allowed here.
Practize the things not-allowed here. Okay.
Thanks – welcome.

Posted by: Spare_Truth | Nov 28 2022 0:41 utc | 136

From being pro gay rights I have – this is only part of my 180° away from liberalism – become at best neutral, and am on the verge of joining, the “totally against” side. And it is the political imperialist agenda of the LGBTACDEFHIJKMNOPQRSUVWXYZ lot that is responsible for this.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 27 2022 23:46 utc | 124
Your logic is ridiculous.
ordinary human rights such as those of gay people are still entirely relevant for all who can easily separate out the propaganda from the human reality.
So don’t blame your own bigotry on political manipulation.

Posted by: K | Nov 28 2022 0:54 utc | 137

((Givi)) | Nov 28 2022 0:18 utc | 130
That will be a huge gain for DNR and will be a springboard for further pursuit operations.

Posted by: Mummer | Nov 28 2022 0:55 utc | 138

@b
Dear b,
the Transgender “problem” – if further more here discussed – has really nothing to to with this dedicated UKR forum here concerning the “war in UKR” discussing, neither could help improve or to evaluate any current emergency situations in UKR (casualties, refugees, etc., the actor will leave asap. if RF would proceed.)
Pls. note that, and may “reduce” those issue points in comments of THIS Forum.
Thanks a lot – for hearing plus understanding..

Posted by: Spare_Truth | Nov 28 2022 1:06 utc | 139

British/Ukrainian media glee while desperate Russia literally had to start shooting cannonballs at Ukraine
https://t.me/uniannet/81551
Well, not quite balls but Kh-55 missiles with removed warheads because “those missiles can only have nuclear warheads”
Expert journalists failed tk find Wikipedia, which quotes non-nuclear modifications of it Kh-65 and Kh-555 used for years in Syria…
Also Ukrainian investigative journalists publish a shocking expose about 10 Russian cargo airplanes having visited China per week!
https://t.me/uniannet/81676
Sorry, peer flies, i wanted to have a look into the abyss and now feeling dizzy under the overwhelming weight of TRUTH

Posted by: Arioch | Nov 28 2022 1:16 utc | 140

@ Ghost of Mosgovoy 91
Your list of sleepers for US fascism misses all the sub-layers of mindless professions such as teachers , imams, broadcasters, and all their mindless professional bodies and institutions.
It also misses the very large population of foreign politicos who are unable to earn a living except at spying , which they used to do in their own countries of origin before they came here.
The West offers amazing employment opportunities for every kind of business, but it lacks the essential employment skills needed for totalitarian fascism, corruption , grifting, and dirty tricks politics.
Today I heard on BBC radio 4 a discussion about Ukranian refugees not being welcomed by British citizens. The virus of Nazism has been imported from Ukraine and PTB might assume that equal.opportunities might reduce our intolerance of fascist ideology.
These fascist pathogens will attach themselves to the communities of fascist sleepers and will be rejected by normal British people. Areas of multiculturalism will become transform from Labour to Tory when they discover their affinity with Tory fascism.
In this sense every refugee is a pathogen of the authoritarianism they have sought asylum from. I see immigration will lead ultimately to our becoming a totalitarian state, ironically from a desire to protect thexworld from totalitarian oppression.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 28 2022 1:21 utc | 141

@b
other thing to suggest:
Some MoAs may sometimes be concerned about some ongoing “impersonation” of their originally posted comments.
Why don’t introduce a pwd-like login only for “Those MoAs” seperately that would like it to give a comment after entering a pwd?
Okay – seems look like I havn’t understand yet Your Free-Comment-philosophy idea, but You could avoid any “Impersonation” on that Your gys that do want a justification before sending comments.
Tanks for my simple question/proposal.

Posted by: Spare_Truth | Nov 28 2022 1:21 utc | 142

@ Arioch | Nov 28 2022 1:16 utc | 139
Do similar from time to time.
The True(?) State of Russian Army Youtube. Runtime: 21m13s
Zanon & co’s source ref ?

Posted by: Outraged | Nov 28 2022 1:26 utc | 143

The plot at the Krivoy Rog cemetery, which the authorities of this Ukrainian city recently allocated for the burial of the servicemen of the country that lost this war killed in the area of their military, is already half filled with fresh graves, the Dutch publication NRC reports in its report.
https://t.me/s/DonbassDevushka

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 28 2022 1:40 utc | 144

@ 142
An recent example of mosque spying
My son bought a car from one of the family of our local mosque. The person selling the car transferred it my son online thexday before the actual purchase and incurred two penalties for the car in town on that day.
After 6 months of promising to.pay the fines of £298.00 my son and I assembled the evidence from bank statements to prove that my son was not driving at the time.
In the evening of the day that evidence was sent to Dvla the mosque brother phoned up to say that he had paid the fine.
How is I that a tin-pot mosque has the capability to monitor my phone? This is
the question my non-Muslim.son is asking.
I have known for 20 years that the mosque is spying on me. But normal English people find that incredible.
Fascism is creeping in.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 28 2022 1:45 utc | 145

What percentage of fighters in Ukraine are hired guns and who pays their funeral costs?

Posted by: Aes | Nov 28 2022 2:14 utc | 146

Lysias @111:
It is true that the attacks on American forces in Korea were primarily carried out by PLA troops who had formerly been members of the Nationalist army. Their military experience was useful, but they were politically suspect and never to be trusted by Mao’s newly installed regime. They were considered expendable and were mostly armed with obsolete Japanese rifles left behind at the end of WWII and also shot out Mauser rifles captured by the Soviets in the hundreds of thousands at places like Stalingrad.

Posted by: Donnie | Nov 28 2022 2:18 utc | 147

@b
What has that post:
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 28 2022 1:45 utc | 144
.. to do with any issues within this UKR-Forum?
Pls. remove that (mosque problems) and those alike non-UKR statements here from this forum – forever.
Thanks.

Posted by: Spare_Truth | Nov 28 2022 2:24 utc | 148

I hope Lukashenko can keep Belarus out of the war. Their military is badly equipped. This I know first-hand from Belarusians. All their men will die if they go to Ukraine, which is pointless.

Posted by: GoFast | Nov 28 2022 2:26 utc | 149

@ Donnie | Nov 28 2022 2:18 utc | 147
So the PVA, using, unreliable, expendable ex-KMT troops, using obsolete Japanese rifles & shot out Mauser rifles, whooped the worlds greatest Empire(superpower) & UN vassals, by crushing the ‘Home by Christmas’ offensive in a mere few days, & in less than ~100 days has utterly defeated & driven the Entire US/UN force retreating as fast as they could, all the way back to the 38th parallel on the West coast of Korea, & a hurried desperate mini Dunkirk, destroying & abandoning huge supply/materiel dumps, between Dec15 & Christmas Day 1950, at the port of Hungnam on the East coast ?
Mein Gott, that is so humiliating. Shush, wouldn’t want that getting around.

Posted by: Outraged | Nov 28 2022 2:36 utc | 150

Melaleuca | Nov 27 2022 22:27 utc | 112
They have Black Friday in Kiev? That amazes me.
Do they also have Thanksgiving, or only the frenzy buying that ensues the day after Americans give thanks for what they already have?
As far as the claim (posted multiple times) that Russia allows people to change their legal sex, willy-nilly, (which seems unbelievable but irrelevant) that has nothing to do with the fact that most rational human beings reject the western top-down imposition of the requirement that we all cosplay with autogynephilic perverts and confused teenagers.
Or else.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Nov 28 2022 2:38 utc | 151

@147
This is Cold War propaganda. As Russell Spurr wrote in Enter The Dragon: China At War In Korea, while ex Guomindang soldiers formed part of the CPV, both Communist and ex GMD troops were fielded. And the Chinese soldiers were very largely armed with PPSh 41 submachine guns, which were feared by the Amerikastani Empire.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 28 2022 2:46 utc | 152

@K 136
So please tell me at what point you stop basic rights of homosexual people to live like others from becoming a power grab in the have of homosexual people. At what point is it “bigotry” to say that using”gay rights” as an excuse for regime change is unacceptable?

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 28 2022 2:48 utc | 153

Arioch #139
To clarify some canards…
The obsolete KH55’s make perfect decoys. Pull out warheads, fly in direction of detected Uke radar systems and monitor. Follow up with modern radar seeking missile close behind — boom — one less Uke air defence radar. Value for money. Try same hunting, fire off an old shotty while your mates have modern rifles at the ready. It is NOT complex.
Freight flights between Russia and China. Ten per week !!!
Wow so how many freight flights between Sydney and Melbourne each day?
AYFK ? wise up man, freight flights are perpetual even during the covid mania days they flew everwhere.
And two of the biggest traders in Eurasia get your mention for ten a week??
Pathetic. I guess the pay from Integrity Initiative is declining.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 28 2022 2:48 utc | 154

At GoFast | Nov 28 2022 2:26 utc | 149

I hope Lukashenko can keep Belarus out of the war. Their military is badly equipped …

Right – hope so, too.
But Belarus-men would be behind in back only to support.
Only RF-soldiers and “others” would be able to start a strike from the “North”, even though nothing point it that today, yet.
May happen next weeks .. but then may start final combat towards Kiew from N/NE (after having UKR-Energy cut-off) .. waiting for real cut-off.
..

Posted by: Spare_Truth | Nov 28 2022 2:50 utc | 155

That Merkle lady of Germany if she does somehow return to world stage President Putin should sic his dog on her. She has horrible fear of dogs.

Posted by: Longfellow | Nov 28 2022 2:50 utc | 156

JEEEEEEZZUUUUUSSSSSSS!
this is first time i read this stuff. Can see the truth at now. Kiev is bastard not mister putin.

Posted by: Pedro inglesius | Nov 28 2022 3:08 utc | 157

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 28 2022 2:48 utc | 154
Great points.
10 flights a week is nothing between Russia and China, even using those big cargo planes.
Putting those old KH55 to good use is a sign of good military efficiency. Useful saturating missile defense systems as well.

Posted by: Haassaan | Nov 28 2022 3:32 utc | 158

In reality, Belarus has a fairly strong and well-trained military.

Posted by: Haassaan | Nov 28 2022 3:37 utc | 159

Posted by: moaobserver | Nov 27 2022 18:13 utc | 66
Like you, my brother is also gay. However unlike you, he sees no need to try and convert the hetero population into gay and transgender, he is happy to have no discrimination and just live his life in peace. He also believes activists are a minority, albeit a loud mouth one, that do more harm than good with their constant demands for deification.
Russia can do as Russia wants, and they don’t want LBGT activists in any way shape or form, hopefully the West will eventually come to the same conclusion. I have worked with many trans, some are very nice, but many have serious issues. To pretend otherwise is naïve.

Posted by: Organic | Nov 28 2022 3:45 utc | 160

uncle tungsten | Nov 28 2022 2:48 utc | 154
I think Arioch assumed the sarcasm was obvious in his post. Whats up digger missed your coffee ?

Posted by: Klaatu | Nov 28 2022 3:55 utc | 161

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 28 2022 2:48 utc | 153
Basically the way through all these false dichotomies is not not buy into them in the first place. And to realise that it’s not majority gay people pushing the political agendas, the ploy is to get you to focus on anything but what really matters, ie regular people solidarity.
Looks like it worked a charm in your case eh?
anyhow its wayyyy off topic here.

Posted by: K | Nov 28 2022 4:00 utc | 162

Outraged@150
That pretty well sums it up.

Posted by: bevin | Nov 28 2022 4:16 utc | 163

Looks like abandoning the zaporizha npp is next. Ukraines shelling of it is scaring the Russians into fleeing. The river line at kherson might break too. New rumors of losses in donetsk are surfacing as well. It appears russias soldiers are onto putins betrayal to depopulate the war zones and aren’t fighting.
You heard it here first barflys.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Nov 28 2022 4:23 utc | 164

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ #Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 26-27 Nov 2022⚡️
#Belgorod Region:
▪️ Ukrainian militants shelled the outskirts of #Shebekino, power lines were damaged. There are no victims or injured.
#Kharkov Region:
▪️ Ukrainian commanders are moving AFU units and nationalist regiments to the #Kharkov and #Volchansk districts bordering the #Belgorod region.
▪️ Mobilisation activities are being forced in #Kharkov, #Volchansk, #Izyum and #Balakleya.
#Starobelsk Direction:
▪️ In the #Svatovo sector, fighting is taking place west of #Kuzemovka.
➖ Both sides are engaged in artillery duels along the entire line of contact.
▪️ In the #Lyman sector, Ukrainian units attempted an offensive towards #Ploshchanka.
The Russian Armed Forces repulsed the enemy attack, forcing the militants to withdraw to their initial positions with losses.
#Soledar Direction:
▪️ In the #Bakhmut (#Artemovsk) area, Wagner PMC troops continue fighting with AFU units in the southeast of #Bakhmut.
▪️ Heavy fighting continues south of #Bakhmut in #Ozeryanovka.
#Lugansk People’s Republic:
▪️ Ukrainian militants shelled #Svatovo and Nizhnyaya Duvanka. Residential buildings, a gas pipeline and power lines were damaged. At least two people were injured.
#Donetsk Direction:
▪️ Enemy militants shelled the #Donetsk agglomeration with barrel and missile artillery. Residential buildings and infrastructure facilities in #Donetsk, #Makeyevka, #Mineralnoye, #Yasynuvata and #Gorlovka have been hit. There are also civilian casualties.
#Zaporozhye Direction:
▪️ In preparation for the offensive, the Ukrainian command is moving more forces to the #Orekhov area.
▪️ In the #Zaporozhye region, another 9-for-9 prisoner-of-war exchange took place on Saturday.
▪️ Artillery duels continue along the line of contact The Russian Armed Forces shelled enemy positions in #Yelenokonstantinovka, #Zaliznichnoye, Malaya Tokmachka and #Shcherbaki.
#Dnipropetrovsk Region:
▪️ Russian troops have hit a railway infrastructure facility in #KrivoyRog.
#Kherson Direction on Southern Front:
▪️ The Ukrainian command continues to redeploy forces to the directions of #Zaporozhye, #Starobelsk and #Soledar.
▪️ Russian missile forces and artillery have hit enemy positions in #Antonovka, #Chernobaevka, #Berislav and #Pridneprovskoye.
▪️ Ukrainian militants struck residential buildings in #Kakhovka and Novaya Kakhovka, killing one woman.

https://t.me/sitreports/1329

Posted by: Down South | Nov 28 2022 4:26 utc | 165

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Boris Rozhin on the Storming of #Artemovsk/#Bakhmut; pub. 27 Nov 2022, 22:38⚡️
1. Our troops retain the initiative here and continue their offensive.
2. The main battles are taking place outside #Opytnoye, south of #Artemovsk towards #Kurdyumovka, on the eastern outskirts of the city and to the northeast towards Krasnaya Gora.
3. There is currently no “encirclement” of the enemy in #Artemovsk. The enemy, despite heavy losses, continues to maintain the integrity of the front, regularly saturating it with transferred reserves, which are concentrated in the Chasov Yar area.
4. There is also no reason to believe that the enemy will respond in any way to the bizarre “ultimatums” being thrown around. The AFU command is well aware that if #Artemovsk is lost, the “Flower of Popasna 2.0” will blossom there.
5. After the loss of #Opytnoye and the start of an assault on #Artemovsk, the enemy clearly expects to hold on to the eastern part of #Artemovsk for some time and then retreat to the western parts of the city. The bridge in the city centre has long been undermined. Should the city be lost, they will gradually retreat to Chasov Yar.
6. In the current realities, one might well agree with Prigozhin’s view that the more our troops shake up the enemy forces in #Artemovsk, the better.

https://t.me/sitreports/1326

Posted by: Down South | Nov 28 2022 4:27 utc | 166

The AFU was able to cross the Ingulets River at Darievsky Bridge, which had previously been destroyed by the AFU when it withdrew its units from the right-bank part of Kherson Oblast.
When Dariev Bridge was under the control of the RF Armed Forces, it was probably the third most important bridge after Antonov Bridge and Kakhovka HPP, as it provided logistics from Crimea to Kherson to bypass the destroyed Antonov Bridge.
After the Antonov bridge was taken out of service, only the Kakhovka hydropower station could be used, but the Ukrainian Armed Forces also bombed the Darjevsky bridge. Unlike the Dnieper, it was a simple enough task to cross the Ingulets, which the RF Armed Forces did in its time.
Currently, the AFU crossing is in the same place where the AFU crossing was earlier set up. What does this give the AFU? It provides an uninterrupted logistical link between the Nikolaev and Krivoy Rog (Nikopol) directions. Thus, Kherson can now be supplied from both the Mykolaiv and Dnepropetrovsk sides.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/22662

Posted by: Down South | Nov 28 2022 4:30 utc | 167

@ Neofeudalfuture | Nov 28 2022 4:23 utc | 164
slavyangrad telegram doesn’t line up with your bullshit neofeud….
SMO Day 277 results”.
Highlights from the past 24 hours:
▪️ The Russian Armed Forces destroyed up to 100 foreign mercenaries and six armored vehicles near the DPR’s Chasov Yar settlement.
▪️ In the Kupyansk direction, the Russian artillery fire eliminated up to 30 Ukrops and two pickup trucks.
▪️ Nazi attempts to attack were thwarted in the Krasno-Limansky direction. As a result, up to 50 Ukrops were killed and wounded.
▪️ Up to 70 Nazis, two tanks, two armored fighting vehicles, and five pick-up trucks were eliminated in the Donetsk direction.
▪️ In the South Donetsk direction, up to 60 Ukrainians losses were sustained.
▪️ The Russian Armed Forces destroyed an ammunition depot near Dnipropetrovsk.
The Russian Armed Forces also destroyed four Ukrainian rocket and artillery weapons depots in Zaporizhzhia Region.
▪️ Air defense forces shot down two HIMARS rocket launchers in the Kherson region. In addition, an Excalibur-guided artillery shell was intercepted in Sumy Region.

Posted by: james | Nov 28 2022 4:36 utc | 168

@5
Yeah, it’s likely because you suck, or are close to sucking.
Next time your shit doesn’t post, go outside and walk around the block.
Then, do something completely different than posting on MOA.
Forget about your post not posting, and go be productive.
You’re welcome.

Posted by: Ass berry | Nov 28 2022 4:43 utc | 169

I’m not sure if the gay rights question is totally off-topic to the Ukraine conflict since this is used as a political football of NATO progandandists visavi Russia, but sure it’s not of immediate interest to this thread, so okay I’ll police myself.

Posted by: Tichy | Nov 28 2022 4:43 utc | 170

I have to agree that homosexuality is a mental illness.
What is the result of homosexuality, writ large?
A total die off of the population.
The reproduction rate of homosexuality is nil
Good bye, human race.
And that’s why it’s frowned upon.

Posted by: Your gay cousin | Nov 28 2022 4:59 utc | 171

Your gay cousin | Nov 28 2022 4:59 utc | 171
You can’t pass judgment on homosexuality unless you’ve first taken it up the ass. Fortunately your moniker demonstrates that, so I accept your position. Which is face down on the carpet.

Posted by: Louie | Nov 28 2022 5:08 utc | 172

Posted by: Tichy | Nov 28 2022 4:43 utc | 170
I find it to be the most boring and vapid issue of the modern era.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 28 2022 5:20 utc | 173

Well its a Ukrainian rumor mill but they’re right sometimes. Anyways I can try to take credit for it

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Nov 28 2022 5:55 utc | 174

Homosexuality and bisexuality are a natural mammalian feature related to population maintenance, a relatively painless way (as opposed to starvation) to prevent overpopulation of a species.
The old Abrahamic Mythology pushed population growth as one of its tenants, therefore gay got labeled as evil, but that has nothing to do with reality.
A gay friend of mine and her partner went to Russia for the World Cup a few years back and loved it. No homophobic vibes, no fear from being openly gay.
What Russia did was outlaw the politicization of homosexuality, which was needed, as that provides backdoor access (; for foreign sponsored color coups.
Due to their history of fighting NAZIS, Russia has a population shortage, so there may be some value to promoting heterosexual relations for the purpose of procreation.
As far as USA politics goes, it is hilarious to see right-wingers so wound up in homosexuality and completely distracted by identity politics. Are all right-wingers just fags who are afraid to come out of the closet? Why the obsession, we have important things to worry about.

Posted by: Haassaan | Nov 28 2022 6:06 utc | 175

“The MoA photo of a trench is truly depressing.
I would have thought this was from WWI. What has humanity learned in more than a century”
I’ve thought the same thing looking at some of the aerial shots from telegram – the countryside looks like swiss cheese.

Posted by: ian | Nov 28 2022 6:45 utc | 176

@Spare_Truth | Nov 28 2022 1:21 utc | 141
Why don’t you stick around for a few months and contribute something before trying to ‘moderate’.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 28 2022 6:48 utc | 177

@ Spare_Truth 148
What have mosque politics got to do with Ukraine politics?
If you lived in England you would remember that our only chance of a Non-warmongering Government here was mysteriously demolished by a voting switch to the Right in Northern cities, most of which were demolished by Mrs Thatcher’s de-industrialisation and destruction of the miners in the ’80s.
The EU is undergoing a similar catastrophe because of US sanctions on Russian Gas, which is currently bankrupting German businesses and starting a wave of demonstrations. The pretext is Ukraine.
Our MSM tell us that swing to the right was caused by Brexit, but that’s is unbelievable as Germany deliberately bankrupting itself for the sake of Ukraine.
We are asked to believe the impossible, that a posh Etonian from the US will suddenly get the vote of implacable Left wing voters.
Imho the swing happened because of Demographic changes where immigrants from South Asia had taken over large areas of our Northern cities, and they felt no hostility to our ancient right wing enemies.
My point was simply that Nazi immigrants from.a de-populated Ukraine, added to nazi sympathisers from Poland and Islamic State sympathisers from South Asia will lock Britain into fascist politics forever.
Spying is one manifestation of totalitarianism.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 28 2022 6:49 utc | 178

Media release, Monday, 28th.
WOODSIDE DELIVERS NORTH WEST SHELF LNG TO EUROPE
Woodside Energy has shipped an LNG cargo to Europe on board the Woodside Rees Withers from Australia’s North West Shelf and delivered it to Uniper Global Commodities SE (Uniper).
The cargo of approximately 75,000 tonnes of LNG (100 million cubic meters of natural gas) was delivered on 27 November 2022 to the Gate Terminal located on Maasvlakte in Rotterdam, and will contribute to natural gas supply in Northwest and Central Europe…..”
A long cold winter looms.

Posted by: Paul GV | Nov 28 2022 6:50 utc | 179

@Paul GV | Nov 28 2022 6:50 utc | 179
Probably subject to a suitable price cap decided by the EU? /s

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 28 2022 7:00 utc | 180

Ukraine’s foreign mercs will be abandoning ship left and right, conditions are miserable and getting worse. Russians have it much easier, short supply lines, solid defensive positions, annihilating the attackers. Word is there’ll be a massive Russian offensive soon, the one we’ve all been waiting for. Likely these missile attacks are the prelude.

Posted by: Buford T Justice | Nov 28 2022 7:08 utc | 181

As noted by Slavyangrad, the temperature forecast for Kharkiv for the next ten days is expected to be subzero.
They reckon it will take 5 days for the ground to freeze.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/22696

Posted by: Down South | Nov 28 2022 7:30 utc | 182

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 28 2022 7:00 utc | 180
You are probably right. I know ‘all’ the gas is supposedly tied up on long term contract to Asian buyers. These contracts were again, supposedly, unbreakable when Twiggy Forrest wanted to break into the Australian East Coast gas market.
Now what did I hear about agreement capable / not capable?
Arms were obviously twisted. Australian politicians are cheap to buy, by world standards.

Posted by: Paul GV | Nov 28 2022 7:52 utc | 183

“The MoA photo of a trench is truly depressing.
Posted by: ian | Nov 28 2022 6:45 utc | 176

Cheer up ==> https://t.me/zoka200/4909

Posted by: too scents | Nov 28 2022 8:03 utc | 184

I put up Saturday’s Rus mod briefing on bio weapons here.
https://vk.com/@739151204-bio-weapons-briefing-nov-26-kirillov

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 28 2022 8:31 utc | 185

K | Nov 28 2022 0:54 utc | 136
Good. Saves me from saying it.

Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 28 2022 8:36 utc | 186

Paul GV | 179
To get from Media Release to Reality we need to carry a rough rule of thumb analysis to show ‘this means that’
The combined capacity of the four Nordstream pipes is/was approx 110×10^9 m^3 per annum
The single delivery from Australia was 100×10^6 m^3
So to replace NS they require 1100 deliveries per annum; assume 10% loss for gasification we get to 1200 loads per annum.
Or 100 a month, or about 3 per day every day.
Approx 30 days sailing time inbound means about 90 ships continuously at sea inbound and 90 at sea outbound, so a fleet of about 200 ships which do not yet exist.
So, an example of a brilliant plan. Worthy of Trampolina herself.

Posted by: Lapin | Nov 28 2022 8:37 utc | 187

Buford T Justice | Nov 28 2022 7:08 utc | 181 “Ukraine’s foreign mercs will be abandoning ship left and right, conditions are miserable and getting worse.”
On top of it, logistic lines for the mercs are now a bit hit and miss.
All radio traffic is now foreign language, a lot of polish language. All those hit on headquarters in Mods clobber sheet have taken their toll. No Ukraine officers or NCO’s.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 28 2022 8:37 utc | 188

Paul GV | Nov 28 2022 6:50 utc | 179 “WOODSIDE DELIVERS NORTH WEST SHELF LNG TO EUROPE”
I wonder if our Aussie ambassador Downer who bugged the East Timor embassy then took up a well paid consultancy with Woodside is still taking a cut.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 28 2022 8:41 utc | 189

Posted by: Jo Dominich | Nov 27 2022 13:33 utc | 3

I continue to be utterly astonished at the stunning ‘cosmic cretinism’ of the EU and EC.

You didn’t look close enough. The intent of the traitor globalist EU leadership from the beginning, was to collapse Europe. Now it all makes sense. To actually analyze this as incompetence is absurd. If the EU politburo was acting in the interests of Europe, it couldn’t possibly be this stupid. Create Problem, expect reaction, bring solution.

Posted by: markov | Nov 28 2022 8:46 utc | 190

@Augustus Caesar 87
Research reflects that it is people who are insecure about their sexuality who are most homophobic. Refer e.g. Jeanna Bryner (2012-04-10). Homophobes Might Be Hidden Homosexuals. LiveScience, Scientific American..
Are you protesting too much?

Posted by: Hermit | Nov 28 2022 8:47 utc | 191

What anyone does in their private life is their own business, but move the faggotry over to the open thread. An old one.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 28 2022 8:59 utc | 192

Posted by: moaobserver | Nov 27 2022 13:47 utc | 4
Excellent article. A bit depressing. Pours cold water on any thoughts of sudden dramatic attacks by Russia bringing an end to all this. But heartening indeed to have some truth, some real information.
I’ll check the site frequently and I’ll inform some of our ‘experts’ who keep telling us Russia is on the verge of that sudden dramatic attack about it. In their comments columns somewhere.

Posted by: abrogard | Nov 28 2022 9:00 utc | 193

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Pentagon is considering a Boeing proposal to supply Ukraine with cheap, small precision bombs fitted onto abundantly available rockets, allowing Kyiv to strike far behind Russian lines as the West struggles to meet demand for more arms.
U.S. and allied military inventories are shrinking, and Ukraine faces an increasing need for more sophisticated weapons as the war drags on. Boeing’s proposed system, dubbed Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb (GLSDB), is one of about a half-dozen plans for getting new munitions into production for Ukraine and America’s Eastern European allies, industry sources said.
GLSDB could be delivered as early as spring 2023, according to a document reviewed by Reuters and three people familiar with the plan. It combines the GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb (SDB) with the M26 rocket motor, both of which are common in U.S. inventories.

This is very dangerous.

Posted by: margo | Nov 28 2022 9:01 utc | 194

If you lived in England you would remember that our only chance of a Non-warmongering Government here was mysteriously demolished by a voting switch to the Right in Northern cities
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 28 2022 6:49 utc | 178

I live in one of those northern cities of England and I remember travelling to Trafalgar square in 2003 to protest against the Labour Party’s Blair-led government and its readiness to go war-mongering in Iraq. There was nothing mysterious about the switch away from the Labour party in 2019 either. Those northern towns voted to leave the EU by large majorities, but the parliamentary Labour party decided they should be forced to vote again, until they gave the answer it wanted.
Nothing to do with right or left; everything to do with their democratically expressed wishes being disrespected.

Posted by: Gt Stroller | Nov 28 2022 9:26 utc | 195

“She and Macron tried to free EU from US death grip and lost”
Macron? Trying to free EU from US death grip?
It’s like saying 70’s Keith Richards was trying to free himself from his H dealer! Macron is a American poodle, even more so than Sarkozy. For pyscho-analytic reasons to hard to explain here Macron HATES France and he just wants it to be :
– either dissolved in some UE hodge-podge.
– being sold in chunks and with a BIG discount to Blackrock or some other American predator.

Posted by: Nanker | Nov 28 2022 9:30 utc | 196

@Norwegian
As a comment on something you said in another thread, I’ve actually made it a habit to take photos of our newspaper posters from time to time, just in order to document the extreme levels of hypocricy and rotting decay of the Swedish media and society in general. I built quite a collection, could share if you’re up for a laugh. I’ve said it many times, Swedish news is way, way more “American” than American media itself. Absolutely no dissent is allowed. Not even the so-called Swedish “Communist” Party dares raise its voice against the lies. I grow more and more sick of living in this joke of a country.

Posted by: Tichy | Nov 28 2022 9:34 utc | 197

… Putting those old KH55 to good use is a sign of good military efficiency. Useful saturating missile defense systems as well.
Posted by: Haassaan | Nov 28 2022 3:32 utc | 158

Flying them without warheads would also greatly extend the flight time. Even without an active EW payload, these things can just fly around a preset route until they run out of fuel, drawing out Ukrainian AD.

Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 28 2022 9:35 utc | 198

Paul GV #179
Did that woodside gas transit Suez? Or via Cape Horn?

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 28 2022 9:36 utc | 199

Down South, what does “zek “mean? Doesn’t it mean “a prisoner” in Russian? Is this someone’s nickname?
заключённый (ЗК, «ЗэКа», «зэк») [zaklyuchyonniy “ZK”, “ZeKa”, “zek] — “IMPRISONED/PRISONER”

Posted by: Moscow Exile | Nov 28 2022 9:39 utc | 200