Ukraine Open Thread 2022-210
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Posted by b on November 27, 2022 at 13:04 UTC | Permalink
next page »"Germans are big bodies sans spirit".
Voltaire.
Posted by: Greg Galloway | Nov 27 2022 13:25 utc | 2
I continue to be utterly astonished at the stunning 'cosmic cretinism' of the EU and EC. WTF are they doing to their countries and it's citizens. They seem to believe that turning their own countries into politically corrupt, poverty econonmies identical to Ukraine is the only way to show solidarity with them.
The unfathomable depth of sheer vitriolic hatred of Russia is totally irrational fuelled by severely delusional beliefs upon which the propaganda and media optic reports are built. Reminder: Hate is the express highway to Hell.
They should, as an exercise, read their own statements and replace the word Russia(ns) with the word Jews or Israel. It would reflect to them just how Nazi and Fascist they are.
As I said in a previous blog Fidel Castro was right in 1997 when he said the next major international incident would be Russia fighting Fascism only that Fascism would be called democracy.
I think Russia are now going to end this much faster than anticipated. Ukraine is corrupt, a brutal Nazi regime, bankrupt and in a state of utter collapse. Nobody but nobody has any idea where the billions of dollars that has been pumped in has gone. I can see the UAF unconditionally surrendering by end of January or the Ukraine Govt fleeing before that. The CIA Mossad and MI6 will take out the Nazi Dictator and try to blame it on Russia. Let'so see. Whatever happens Ukraken is finished. In the near future the collective West will want to do business with Russia and the answer will be a firm 'talk to the hand'. Bye bye EU and USA.
Posted by: Jo Dominich | Nov 27 2022 13:33 utc | 3
There is a very interesting Russian language interview at "veche-info" with Vladimir Orlov, a major humanitarian / military aid coordinator for the SVO.
http://veche-info.ru/news/9453
This can be translated automatically by your browser in most cases, but there are points made that should pour a bucket of cold water on any fantasist dreams proffered by posters here.
On the need for small drones:
"Now we are witnessing a unique situation. We see the first ever mass use of small drones. I agree that even up to this point, of course, drones were used in various military conflicts, for example, in Syria, Yemen, and during the military conflict of 2014-2022 in Donbass. Of course, the military-industrial complex periodically paid attention to this, but it either did not have a resource or tasks from the government. As a result, our military-industrial complex was engaged in the production of heavier drones with a narrower specialization, such as Orlans, Zala Aero products and the like.
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Shortened for being waaayyy too long
b.
Posted by: moaobserver | Nov 27 2022 13:47 utc | 4
My posts don't seem to be showing up for the last couple of days. Any reason for that?
Posted by: moabeobachter | Nov 27 2022 13:49 utc | 5
The main necropolis of Polish Olsztyn will soon look like a US military cemetery: a large lawn, and identical tombstones on it, writes NDP.The reason for this decision of the city authorities was the sharply increased number of burials of military personnel.
This situation has become a real problem for the local government of Olsztyn, on whose territory the 16th Pomeranian Mechanized Division is stationed. Almost daily military funerals, combined with honorary salvos, began to irritate the residents and provoked numerous complaints against the city administration and the command of the 16th Division. To avoid unnecessary noise, the authorities decided to create a separate "American" cemetery.
For 10 months of bloody battles, according to information from publicly available sources in Ukraine, more than 1.2 thousand Polish citizens died, including military personnel and veterans of the 16th division.
There are already 1700 such burials in Olsztyn alone.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/22607
Posted by: Down South | Nov 27 2022 13:52 utc | 6
⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦 AFU Crossing over Ingulets near Kherson⚡️Ukrainian formations have established a crossing over the Ingulets in the area of the Daryevsky bridge, which was previously destroyed during the withdrawal of Russian troops from the right-bank part of the #Kherson region.
Despite the fact that full-fledged attempts by the AFU to launch an offensive on the left bank near #Kherson are highly unlikely, such crossings greatly facilitate the transfer of enemy units to other directions, including #Zaporozhye.
▪️ Object coordinates: 46.742078, 32.810467
Earlier, our team had compiled a list of key enemy infrastructure facilities, the removal of which would complicate logistics and supply of enemy troops. Despite the changed configuration of the front line, it is still relevant:
▪️ List of all bridges across the #Dnipro
▪️ List of railway bridges in western Ukraine
▪️ Traction substations: part 1 and part 2
▪️ Critical substations on the border with Poland
▪️ Depots: list 1 and list 2
▪️ Recovery trains
https://t.me/sitreports/1315
Posted by: Down South | Nov 27 2022 13:54 utc | 7
Battles for Artemovsk (Bakhmut) - KurdyumovkaYesterday there was information about the occupation of a very important settlement by our troops. Kurdyumovka (height prevailing over the area).
Unfortunately, while these sources are in a hurry. According to my data, as of yesterday evening, we took control of no more than half of this settlement. But the dynamics are positive, as in the area of neighboring settlements. Ozaryanovka, and Zelenopolya.
Now it is obvious to everyone that ours are driving a wedge between Artemovsk and Toretsk and the semicircle around the first will constantly shrink and soon we can expect intensification of assault operations against this city (as well as Soledar).
And the most interesting and important here will be whether Zek will help his army here with reserves or not. So far, Kyiv has no special reserves to be seen here (as well as near Avdeevka-Donetsk, where ours are also noticeably pressing). Basically, enemy units from near Kherson are concentrated to the east of Kharkov, where we can expect a new attempt at the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/22590
Posted by: Down South | Nov 27 2022 13:55 utc | 8
#3
On Western Leaders:
If you're not Epstein-style compromised (or at least m*sturbated in a coffin in front of your fraternity), you'll never make it to the inner sanctum, let alone the head of the table.
The name of the game is privatization and austerity for the commons.
Been the same game for fifty years at least.
The behavior of Western Leaders (EU in particular), to wit: ushering in pain and suffering, stagflation, shortages, circles back to austerity and privatization as ordered by WEF, World Bank, et al.
They're following orders.
Plus 10 percent for the big guy.
Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Nov 27 2022 14:00 utc | 9
Just yesterday, "Ukrainian Nazis" was trending on Twitter, and going through a lot of those posts, it seems quite clear that the majority of people in the collective West have grown quite tired of making enormous sacrifices (see the big East Wall protest in Ireland, for example) for Ukraine, particularly its arrogant and unabashedly pro-Nazi military and political leaders.
Yet there is a severe cognitive dissonance between the sentiments of the people and the "leaders" of Europe, Britain Canada, and the USA (and their MSM propaganda outlets) and their seemingly bottomless will to fund Ukraine to the point where it's becoming a dark comedy.
Posted by: Sam | Nov 27 2022 14:01 utc | 10
Merkel spills the beans and states that the Minsk agreements were willingly and negligently destroyed, an that in the verge of her retirement there was none in the Council of Europe who had the balls to take the lead in continuing presssing for negotiations with the Russians, confirming the general impression that European bureaucrats and government officials are the mediocrity and nulity we all suspect they are and are there only for the privileges their positions grant them, but they are not going to sweat or spend nights awaken in the least to achieve neither peace nor security, less progress in Europe,
Angela Merkel destroys the narrative of "an unprovoked and unjustified attack by Russia on Ukraine" and reveals the atmosphere that characterizes one of the EU's top institutions made up of European leaders.
The former Federal Chancellor of Germany said in a recent interview with the German outlet Der Spiegel, that the special military operation that began on February 24 did not take her by surprise since the Minsk Agreements were destroyed and no one at the European Council wanted to support his initiative to start new negotiations with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
💬 "It wasn't a surprise. The Minsk agreements were destroyed. In the summer of 2021, after the meeting of presidents Biden and Putin, she wanted to re-establish an independent European format for discussion with Putin together with Emmanuel Macron at the European Council. Some opposed it and I no longer had the strength to impose myself, since everyone knew that in the autumn I would leave. I asked other Council members: “Why don't you volunteer? Say something". One said: "It's too much for me". Another just shrugged: "It's something the greats should do".
🔺Thus, the resistance to talk about some and the inability to assume responsibilities for others determined the fate of millions of people and an entire continent...
All in all, Merkel could have taken great efforts to reach an agreement with Russia, which then she failed to keep alive, but, by promoting Von der Leyen, first to Minister of Defense, where the latter could demonstrate to the "Collective West" her wide capacity for corruption, it was Merkel who sealed the destiny of Europe, since that was the step Von der Leyen and her obvious sponsors at the other side of the Atlantic, needed to have her promoted to the head of the Comission, from where she is firmly determined to destroy Europe on behalf of US corporations, where her own husband seats at boards...
We are here not only because of the mediocrity and nulity of many, but also because of the lack of vision and negligence in depurating corrupt officials by some others...even by "the greats"....
Greatness, I fear, is today conceeded with the same slightness as adjetives like "democratic" and
the title of "New Moses", recently granted to that psyco parasit, Zelensky...I Moses could rsie his head....
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 14:06 utc | 11
What the f**k happend to journalistic integrity ?
...........
What happened to the general public's critical thinking abilty and sence of right and wrong ?
Have the western public and polaticians lost all ability to forecast the outcome of their mass delusional actions ?
The Ukraine war could be over in one day, just call a stop to this unprovoked war against Russia.
From a UK resident.
Posted by: Mark2 | Nov 27 2022 14:08 utc | 12
december in ukraine seems to start with -10 and even up to -20 in some areas, so after the mud the frost will set in, but has Russia stopped destroying the energy facility in Ukraine or it does continue every day? it seems like the good time for the population to flee to the west
Posted by: Alex | Nov 27 2022 14:12 utc | 13
@Posted by: Alex | Nov 27 2022 14:12 utc | 12
Related to the so protested an only lately performed by Russia, in face of NATO continuous offensive intends, destruction of Ukrainian energy facilities and networks, recall here, for the hypocrites and willingly blind and deaf in the West, that attacks against energy infrastructure and water supply has been going on in Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea during the past 8 years, continuing even today. Today still in Donestsk there are only water three days a week, and internet comunications and blackouts fail one day after another in diverse áreas of Novorrosiya...
Lugansk, 2015....
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 14:22 utc | 14
Who are mainly pushing for war in Europe?...Those whose fortune and economy depend on it....
Stoltenberg...
Von der Leyen....
https://t.me/DoctorManhattanreborn/4711
https://t.me/rocknrollgeopolitics/5719
The US and its MIC based economy...
https://t.me/DoctorManhattanreborn/4709
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 14:29 utc | 15
Russia has slowed down the destruction of Ukraine energy infrastructure, just long enough for them to patch those things up. Then Russia will promptly destroy them again. Much more soul destroying for Ukraine that way
Posted by: DaVinci | Nov 27 2022 14:35 utc | 16
Posted by: Jo Dominich | Nov 27 2022 13:33 utc | 3
by promoting Von der Leyen, first to Minister of Defense, where the latter could demonstrate to the "Collective West" her wide capacity for corruption, it was Merkel who
I have never been positive towards Merkel, but you should not act as if she was all-powerful. Von der Leyen was CDU royalty - her father Ernst Albrecht was a power in the CDU and 14 years premier of Lower Saxony unit, defeated by Gerhard Schroeder. Albrecht was selected as CDU candidate for Chancellor but defeated by CSU leader FJS who then lost to Helmut Schmidt.
Von der Leyen has backers and Merkel could not fight on every front.
She and Macron tried to free EU from US death grip and lost.
EU leaders are compromised and US knows how to blackmail, and threaten - vdL is deep in corruption with McKinsey, Pfizer, just as Germany is now giving contracts to Lockheed for F-35s with NO offset agreements for German industry.............yet every other German regime has had offsets
Douglas McGregor believes Germany is seeking to offload the US hegemony - we shall see. Already in Leipzig demonstrators shout "Ami Go Home" and that is not an isolated sentiment
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Nov 27 2022 14:46 utc | 17
@Posted by: Sam | Nov 27 2022 14:01 utc | 9
For cognitive dissonance, this one by this moron Morawiecki....Prime Minister of Poland Mateusz Morawiecki at the monument to the victims of the Volhynia massacre, later paying tribute to Stepan Bandera, the murderer...
Why the people of Poland do not go into the streets asking for these sold out obvious foreign agents to resign?
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 14:50 utc | 18
November 27th: Foreign legion mercenaries took up to 100 casualties from air force precision strike in the Donbass region. That's at least a second major strike in the last 3 days or so.
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 27 2022 14:52 utc | 19
Paul Craig Roberts of Reagan admin fame has a shout out to MoA on Ukraine reporting. He makes good points, of course because he is not a Blue Team guy, so he is allowed to criticize the current administration (something Blue Team members are forbidden from no matter what they actually think).
Posted by: John R Moffett | Nov 27 2022 15:02 utc | 20
About maybe twenty years ago I attended a 'book signing' lecture at a local book store presented by the late great John Taylor Gatto. This old guy knew everything, and one thing he said still makes perfect sense after all these years (an unusual phenomenon). He said: The way to exert dominance and control of those whom you dominate is to induce them to perform actions that are manifestly absurd. You get them to build gigantic skyscrapers, and then to knock them down 'into their own footprint' (while blaming 19 hooligans with box cutters). Build vast metropolises and then bomb them down to rubble (e.g. Dresden). Fight meaningless wars that get tens, hundreds, etc. thousands of them killed for no reason whatsoever (e.g. Vietnam, Ukraine). In this manner you exert your dominance over your 'loyal' subjects (this being the normal modus operandi of narcissistic/fascist personalities). This life/death-for-nothing cycle has been going on forever. Modern 'education' has made it all possible. Getting used to it?
Posted by: blues | Nov 27 2022 15:03 utc | 21
@Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Nov 27 2022 14:46 utc | 16
I agree in that one person, even when powerful, achieves nothing if others oposse of simply leave things being moved by powrfrul and menacing foreign actors.
But it was Merkel who promoted Von der Leyen and I hope that if she is honest she regrets that the rest of her life. She should had recognized it at that interview by Spiegel, but still she values her life more than that of millions of Europeans and the destiny of a whole continent, and thus she is not so "great" as she seems to imply and indulge herself in that interview.
It is clear Europe is menaced by powerful foreign actors, but, if you are willing to risk nothing even when retired, as others even in the US are doing, then you have no right to come criticize others or make the difference indicating you were the last of "the greats"...
Everybody can make errors, but at high office one should think twice and consider the possible outcomes of its decissions for the people of Europe and the continent´s future.
I insist, she sealed our future by rising Von der Leyen, that corrupt mediocrity who is highly likely a pscyho, to a high office where she could contact the US and NATO MIC....There is no way Merkel could not have notice of Von der leyen´s corruptibility at that level...When having comitting such huge error, it is normal for humans to try to indulge themselves one way or the other so that to continue living and going public...We are witnessing the same process with those responsible for the whole pandemic management, where Von der Leyen had, btw, a determinant role... ( Yet, she regrets nothing, as your classical psycho of manual...)
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 15:14 utc | 23
@10 Ghost of Mozgovoy
everybody overestimates Merkel. She was the dumbest minister in Kohl's cabinet, and the dumbest and most destructive chancellor since WWII. Only Schulz has topped that so far. Acc. To Kohl, she did not even have table manners.
Merkel got pushed by the globalists b/c she was prepared to damage German interests for their sake. She is a honorary member of the Bnei-Brith lodge. That in itself should tell you everything.
She promoted von der Leyen to the EU bureaucracy in order to eliminate her politically. The one thing Merkel was good at, was getting rid of potential internal rivals. She learnt that in the GDR, surrounded by Stasi-associated people like de Mazziere, Gauck etc.
Apart from that she is timid, cowardly, deceitful and short-sighted. In all policy decisions, she instinctively favored those choices which hurt the interests of Germany. I could never understand why anybody thought well of her. She was simply a media product.
Posted by: zeun | Nov 27 2022 15:18 utc | 24
re:Merkel
@ Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 14:06 utc | 10
There was a violated order of a higher standing than the Minsk Agreements, from the UN Security Council.
Unanimously Adopting Resolution 2202 (2015), Security Council Calls on Parties to Implement Accords Aimed at Peaceful Settlement in Eastern Ukraine
Expressing the Security Council’s grave concern at the tragic events and violence in eastern regions of Ukraine, the 15-member body today unanimously adopted a resolution endorsing last week’s ceasefire agreement.
By resolution 2202 (2015), the Council called on all parties to fully implement the “Package of Measures for the Implementation of the Minsk Agreements”, adopted on 12 February 2015 in Minsk, Belarus. Firmly convinced that the resolution of the situation in eastern regions of Ukraine could only be achieved through a peaceful settlement to the current crisis, the Council welcomed the declaration by the Heads of State of the Russian Federation, Ukraine, France and Germany in support of the “package of measures” and their continuing commitment to implement the agreements. . .here
Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 27 2022 15:28 utc | 25
Watching this act play out in front of us in real time, where so-called leaders either shirk their responsibilities or actively encourage warmongering makes it much easier to understand how WW2 and WW1 came to be.
Posted by: William Wilson | Nov 27 2022 15:28 utc | 26
My posts don't seem to be showing up for the last couple of days. Any reason for that?
Posted by: moabeobachter | Nov 27 2022 13:49 utc | 4
I don't know, I don't think you're a victim of brutal Commie censorship tyranny but rest assured we couldn't be happier.
Posted by: Tichy | Nov 27 2022 15:29 utc | 27
What happened to Journalistic Integrity?
175 years in a supermax prison might have something to do with it, best ask Chelsea Manning, Craig Murray or...
Keep your Job, be kinda famous, get good pay and good seats at restaurants or unemployed and unemployable at best and dead or nearly 200 years in a Supermax prison..
That $300 Billion USG stole from Russia?
Here in the States we call it "Civil Asset Forfeiture".
Hospitalss are overflowing with sick children with tents being set up outside at least one SF hospital, the USA has had 17% of Worldwide Covid Deaths with 4$ of the population and the headline news in the SF Chronicle is about the best hamburger joint between SF and Lake Tahoe.
Did I mention that if you want to keep your Government Job the Pandemic is over?
If you lived in Russia during the early 90's you have a good idea of what the USA has become.
Read Smedly Butler's "War is a Racket" if you want to know how US Policies are forged at Home and Abroad.
Posted by: Tom Stone | Nov 27 2022 15:30 utc | 28
@ my 24
Note that the Ukraine affair resolution was confined to European countries and the US had no authority. So the responsibility was mostly with the most powerful European country, Germany.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 27 2022 15:33 utc | 29
@Posted by: Greg Galloway | Nov 27 2022 13:25 utc | 2
Voltaire could be onto something there, since even Schröeder, personal friend of V.V.Putin and board member at some energy Russian giants, asked whether the Germans would go into the streets this winter faced with rising energy bills, galloping inflation and thus decaying purchasing power and life conditions, he immedaitely answered that "no way, because the Germans are not so"...
It seems that the US elites knew something about that when they placed Germany at the head of the EU tp hold the grip on the rest of Europe.....
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 15:34 utc | 30
Quote,there is lots of good content here:
The third miscalculation results from how one calculates the offense-defense balance in a strategic bombing campaign. The first order calculus is the replacement value of the target. Since February, Russia has launched 1,305 missiles, against energy and water facilities in Ukraine, as well as civilian-dense locations like shopping centers. There include mobile ground-launched 500 km range SS-26 Iskanders, air and sea-launched 50 km range Kalibrs, and aircraft-launched 2,500 km range Kh-55 (including the KH-101 variant). The conventional high-explosive warhead payloads are 700 kg, 500 kg, and 1200 kg respectively, as compared with 985 kg for the SCUD-D, and 975 kg for the German V-2/A-4, although the newer Russian systems all strike within 20 meters to 30 meters of their target. Also, somewhat less than fifty Kh-22s (AS-4 Kitchens) were fired, as these would be reserved to strike U.S. aircraft carriers. Russia has also acquired at least 450 Shahed-136 suicide drones from Iran, of which half have been launched. These systems carry a 50 kg payload, up to 2,500 km, and Russian modified optical guidance is very accurate.
Posted by: BostonTom | Nov 27 2022 15:39 utc | 31
She was the dumbest minister in Kohl's cabinet, and the dumbest and most destructive chancellor since WWII.
OK. I shall tell you what I was told by a good friend now deceased. Kohl hated to fly. He therefore sent "mein Maedchen" in his stead to meetings. As a result Merke; became known to the movers and shakers in the CDU and when the time came she knifed Kohl and shunted him aside to become General Secretary of CDU and combine that post as CDU Candidate for Chancellor.
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Nov 27 2022 15:47 utc | 32
More from that real clear defense article:
The second order calculus is whether the cost of the intercepting missile is cheaper than the cost of the attacking missile it is intended to stop, plus the cost of repair of the intended target. The Kalibr missile (US$1 million per unit) has been intercepted by Ukrainian S-300 air defense rockets, which cost greater than US$1 million each, and by German IRIS-T, costing US$430,000 per missile. Ukraine also only has 250 S-300 missiles, not including some sent from former-Warsaw Pact, now NATO allies, and it does not manufacture the system. Russian Kh-55 missiles (US$1 million per unit) were shot down over Kyiv by unknown systems. The NASAMS’ AMRAAM missiles, delivered in early November, cost US$1.2 million. Shahed-136 drones cost about US$20,000, although they are easily destroyed by point defense systems when available, but are cost-effective against much more expensive area defense missiles. None of these prices include the sensor and launch systems, valued at between US$23 million, to over US$100 million per battery, which are exposed to destruction by other systems like artillery and aircraft. Despite grand claims by the Armed Forces of Ukrainian, it is likely only a fraction of missiles are being intercepted, and not the 73 of 90 Russian cruise missiles shot down on November 15. On the same day, the U.S. claimed that the NASAMS missiles intercepted all 10 of 10 of unidentified Russian missiles. Ukraine is likely spending the same amount on interceptors as Russia is spending on attack missiles
Posted by: BostonTom | Nov 27 2022 15:47 utc | 33
" I continue to be utterly astonished at the stunning 'cosmic cretinism' of the EU and EC. WTF are they doing to their countries and it's citizens. "
You should go for the most logical, obvious answer, which is, the intentional destruction and de-industrialization of European economies, Combined with the intentional dilution of European autochthonous populations. When viewed from this angle everything starts to make sense.
Posted by: Deplorable Commisar | Nov 27 2022 15:54 utc | 34
In other order of things, it seems that the commander of the newly arrived in Ukraine, PMC Mozart, who has make oath to fight PMC Wagner, is a "black transplantologist" who was previosuly dedicated to looking for organs in Kosovo....
https://twitter.com/shelaguia/status/1596598834402013185
As happened in former Yugoslavia, it seems that not only "the best from every home" were already present in the first minutes of the Maidan coup, instrumentalized by those of always, but also those who still were missing are leaving their profittable to date destinations to join also the effort in Ukraine....
I do not know why this guy says this individual is a black person...He looks like a white one all the way....
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 15:54 utc | 35
@blues | Nov 27 2022 15:03 utc | 20
This old guy knew everything, and one thing he said still makes perfect sense after all these years (an unusual phenomenon). He said: The way to exert dominance and control of those whom you dominate is to induce them to perform actions that are manifestly absurd.Sure, that is why in basic military training one is trained to follow absurd orders. The purpose is to learn to obey.
Guess why we had BS-19 before the war and now there is virtually no protests.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 27 2022 16:04 utc | 36
🇩🇪🚫🏭📈⚡️According to the German industry group, every fourth enterprise may relocate abroad due to rising energy costs and inflation.Tanja Gönner, CEO of the Federation of German Industries (BDI), told Die Welt am Sonntag that one in every four German companies is considering moving production to other countries due to the energy crisis.
"High energy prices and a weakening economy are wreaking havoc on the German economy, putting a significant burden on our companies in comparison to other international locations." The German business model is under severe strain... "Every fourth German company is considering outsourcing production," Gönner stated.
"The exorbitant energy prices are crushing us...
"Without a functioning price brake, the government is willingly accepting deindustrialization," he warned, adding that if the chemical industry fails, other industries will follow, which "could be a knockout blow for Germany as a business location."
He went on to say that German industry requires "structural reforms, most notably the acceleration of planning and approval procedures and de-bureaucratization."
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/plus242340497/Unternehmen-in-Energiekrise-Kann-der-K-o-fuer-den-Standort-Deutschland-sein.html
https://t.me/azmilitary11/29576
Posted by: Down South | Nov 27 2022 16:08 utc | 37
🇯🇵🇷🇺🛢🪨🌏Japan will have to pay a heavy price for joining the anti-Russian sanctions. We are talking, first of all, about Tokyo's refusal to purchase Russian oil, which has practically decreased to zero over the past six months.According to Nihon Keizai, this has already had a very painful effect on the Japanese economy, since the supply of Russian hydrocarbons accounted for up to 4% of all Japanese imports.
However, according to analysts, the main danger lies in the new prospects, since Japan has actually abandoned the traditional differentiated approach to oil purchases.
After abandoning Russian raw materials, Tokyo was forced to completely reorient itself to Arab countries, which is fraught with unpredictable consequences, writes EADaily.
"The rejection of Russian oil has increased Tokyo's dependence on black gold from the Middle East. As a result, the risks associated with deliveries have increased."
The riskiness of the situation is in the absence of an alternative, especially considering that oil has to be imported from a rather explosive region. Japan may be on the verge of an economic catastrophe if something happens to these oil exporting countries, and there will be no Russian products.Problems in the country and with coal. Until recently, the supply of 48% of the coal used for electricity generation depended on Russia. In the new conditions, enterprises have to switch to coal from Australia and other countries, which affects not only its price, but also logistics,Japan same as Germany has a very bad outlook for future energy prospects
https://t.me/azmilitary11/29577
Posted by: Down South | Nov 27 2022 16:10 utc | 38
@Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 15:54 utc | 34
"The founder of PMC Mozart, retired US Marine Corps Colonel Andrew Milner, who came to Artyomovsk with his soldiers of fortune, was introduced as a rival to PMC Wagner's Proghozin.
But judging by his "rear jackal" fame, which dates back to Kosovo, he has other interests in Ukraine.
It turns out that the specialization of these Americans is the search for human organs. The peculiarity of his business is that organs are harvested from a still living person who has been injured or is unconscious from a concussion."
Has this Milner been sent to the Ukraine to collect the last of valuables before leaving?
The Russians will be doing humanity a favor if this sinister guy and his elite patrons who need and purchase those organs don't make it out of the Ukraine alive...
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 16:14 utc | 39
It is reported that Russia destroyed a railroad bridge in Kherov Rog. How major is that bridge? Can anyone post photos?
Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Nov 27 2022 16:19 utc | 40
reply to 31
I have to be skeptical about valuing Russian weapons in US dollars. I think that sort of error lies at the base of how they underestimated Russia's economy and production.
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 27 2022 16:41 utc | 41
Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Nov 27 2022 16:19 utc | 40
No photos. The TG channels report the railway infrastructure will be out for a long period of time.
❗️The railway in Krivoy Rog in Ukraine will not work for a long time, - head of the Krivoy Rog military administration Yevgeny Sitnichenko.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/22563
From what I can pick up the strike prevents the 17th Tank brigade from deploying via rail.
Posted by: Down South | Nov 27 2022 16:42 utc | 42
The MoA photo of a trench is truly depressing.
I would have thought this was from WWI.
What has humanity learned in more than a century?
Posted by: Nick | Nov 27 2022 16:46 utc | 43
@ Jo Dominich [3]
Your quote of Fidel Castro said is not exactly right, and the date was 1992, not 1997.
From Fiorella Isabel "Fidel said this in conversation with Max Lesnik Menéndez who was his good friend. ... You won’t find this online because any revolutionary or anti imperialist text about Fidel is highly taken off searches. But if you read anything Max has said you can find it. Also many people claim Fidel correctly predicted several events of the last few decades."
Castro was even more prescient because 1992 was soon after the end of the Soviet Union, probably before it was clear that the West would then massively pillage Russia.
We are in an era of informational war(s), which makes it important to get our facts as solid as possible. So when I searched for the exact when and where, I found this on Twitter posted by Fiorella Isabel. “The next war in Europe will be between Russia and fascism, except that fascism will be called democracy.” Fiorella Isabel
I never hard of her before, but Twitter says she is "Russia state-affiliated media". I clicked to see exactly which media she works for, but instead Twitter gives us this bald hypocrisy: "State-affiliated media is defined as outlets where the state exercises control over editorial content through financial resources, direct or indirect political pressures... State-financed media organizations with editorial independence, like the BBC in the UK or NPR in the US for example, are not defined as state-affiliated media for the purposes of this policy." That stunning BS reminded me why I've never spent time on Twitter.
Posted by: JessDTruth | Nov 27 2022 16:55 utc | 44
Russia must continue destruction of Ukraine energy infrastructure, otherwise it shall be defeated. In spite of what we here want Ukro army is still very strong and they are attacking daily.
Destroying electric grid would stop Ukro logistics.
It is not nice for those people, but refugees can flood Germany and make western population suffer, at least indirectly.
It is crucial that EU and USA population suffer a bit, in order to end this war.
Posted by: margot | Nov 27 2022 17:02 utc | 45
Posted by: Down South | Nov 27 2022 13:55 utc | 8
Down South, what does “zek “mean? Doesn’t it mean “a prisoner” in Russian? Is this someone’s nickname?
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 16:14 utc | 39
That is a horrible accusation about the Mozart boss. I do believe it happened in Kosovo (I read the Italian - Swiss Hague judge’s comments), and also in Syria but how do we know it was both this guy and his pissants? Was there ever some testimony about him by reputable witnesses? Maybe some fellow mercenaries turned whistleblowers?
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 15:34 utc | 30
Posted by: Greg Galloway | Nov 27 2022 13:25 utc | 2
So what will send those insensate Germans onto the streets then? When did they last riot? End of WWI ? In time of almost starvation? If that is the case, Russia will need to wait another year or so, because like all of Europe sent bullets to Ukraine, the US will force all the little EU countries to send those “big bodied” but “sans balls “ Germans, food, right?
Posted by: Tom Stone | Nov 27 2022 15:30 utc | 28
We have entered the Pax Americana or to be blunt the US Empire. Just as Augustus started off the Roman Empire defacto , but never de jure, as only a mere senator ,so has the US led us by the nose into us being subjects of Washington even if we have the trappings of Congress and parliaments in our home countries. We are not subjects or vassals…we are allies!, right? So thought the Germans till they had their country turned back a couple of hundred years with a few pipeline explosions. We are all under American control. Democratic checks / balances and journalistic integrity went out the door a long time ago. We now have patrician - looking anchor propaganda mouthpieces , and busty “ journalists” parroting what some authority said in some briefing.
Posted by: Brother Ma | Nov 27 2022 17:06 utc | 46
@Nick | Nov 27 2022 16:46 utc | 43
What has humanity learned in more than a century?That humanity never learns.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 27 2022 17:11 utc | 47
@Arioch Trench video This video plus the photo leading this day's discussion is sobering in the extreme. It is as if we have leapt back in time over 100 years as an earlier commenter stated (Nick). This is the same, the exact same, as it has been for centuries, at least as regards fighting in eastern Europe. Assuming the video posted is real (by that I mean current, and not something from, say, 10 years ago) I note the snow on the ground, the visible breaths of the soldiers. It is going cold, winter is arriving, and with it will come the flood of refugees and human chaos. I posted a couple days ago that we will know when things are really coming apart when the MSM begins to howl about Russian genocide, as if it is Russia that has caused the refugee crisis, not the Western response and refusal to negotiate, and, sure enough, a day later, here it started, with a narrative started blaming the Russians for the Ukrainian famine in the 1930s, building the case that Russia uses famine as a weapon, and is using such now, as a way to build the case that everything happening in Ukraine and Europe is the result of Russian genocide (neatly avoiding the sanctions or refusal to negotiate or the history of the failed Minsk agreements). Next will come declaration after declaration that Russia is a sponsor of state terrorism. All narratives to continue the battle, further make Russia a monster, displace blame, continue the engorgement of the weapons makers, and hopefully prevent the people from coming to their senses. Do you see the stories about how the Chinese people are more than fed up with the Covid rules and the real estate catastrophe? Wait until the Europeans react to the refugees and the cold and the lack of food and the realization they have been totally played.....
Posted by: Boomheist | Nov 27 2022 17:11 utc | 48
For cognitive dissonance, this one by this moron Morawiecki....Prime Minister of Poland Mateusz Morawiecki at the monument to the victims of the Volhynia massacre, later paying tribute to Stepan Bandera, the murderer...
https://t.me/DAVlDru/6382
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 14:50 utc | 17
He did ?????
Where can we find a confirmation of this ????
Posted by: Tom_12 | Nov 27 2022 17:13 utc | 49
Posted by: blues | Nov 27 2022 15:03 utc | 20
Or force them to profess adherence to manifestly absurd beliefs:
pregnant men, the pharma industry is motivated by a desire to improve the general health, the government wants you to live longer,...
One benefit of this is though the self-identification of the slavish scum that obliges all too willingly and publicly.
Posted by: bottle | Nov 27 2022 17:14 utc | 50
More data informing of the likely causes for the arrival of Milner´s PMC Mozart, allegedly to oposse PMC Wagner, but really to harvest from the high numbers of injured and death....
Ukrainian Armed Forces suffer heavy losses in Artyomovsk ( Bakhmut ), only in 2 days 500 Ukrainian soldiers were wounded...
Ukrainian journalist Victoria Jamaza writes on her Instagram, "The flow of bodies does not stop. Medics and paramedics work at the border. In some areas there is a terrible smell of corpses."
Whose organs is Milner coming to harvest?
Ukraine has been harvested since the very first days of the Maidan coup, when Ukraine became the paradise of surrogate maternity clinics for Western, but especially American clients.
High rise in electricity and gas bills started then for Ukrainians so that to drain Ukrainian´s wealth towards Ukrainian oligarchs as a general rehearsal for what then would be extended to the whole of Europe on US oligarchs and US corporations and corrupt elites´ behalf.
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 17:14 utc | 51
The MoA photo of a trench is truly depressing.
I would have thought this was from WWI. What has humanity learned in more than a century
Absolutely nothing. According to Frank Herbert author of Dune, the next 10,000 ys will look exactly like the last 10,000. Greed, pettiness, corruption, ambition, impulsiveness, cruelty, perversion, mindlessness and thoughtlessness are intrinsic and a constant. I was always into a Star Trek future, but I was a naive kid. As I get older I realize what an angry book Herbert was driven to write.
No fun getting old but I'm glad I'm too old for NATO or USA to draft and send into a WW1 shit trench. I feel bad for a lot of those men on either side who from looking at images are in their 40s through 60s. That has to be a bitch.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 27 2022 17:20 utc | 52
It is long time that I do not comment at MoA, mainly becuase of lack of time as I dedicate all my available time to try to inform myself through several dozens of sources.
I can not find the most interesting regulars here any more, instead the comment section seems to have been hijacked by NATO and US Army gatekeepers.
That makes really unworthy to keep any conversation going on here. Just saying.
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 17:24 utc | 53
@Posted by: Tom_12 | Nov 27 2022 17:13 utc | 49
You have the confirmation right there is the two photographs provided in that Twitter account, may be you would need to put on your glasses to more easily identify the moron of Morawiecki?
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 17:29 utc | 54
“All in all, Merkel could have taken great efforts to reach an agreement with Russia” #11
Merkel was removed from the political picture just because of that. During her time Germany and Russia, completed NS1 and signed for NS2. Neocons could not tolerate this and the first action was that US and UK deep states secure Brexit. After that she was literally pushed out.
Posted by: Milos | Nov 27 2022 17:29 utc | 55
@b @4;
Apologies, just noticed your edit now. There is no error message or feedback on the system here so I assumed I was banned - last week someone was posting in my name so was wondering if it was related to that.
Posted by: moaobserver | Nov 27 2022 17:33 utc | 56
@52;
Yeah, Dune is an interesting one. From Chapterhouse: Dune, he writes:
“All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible.”
To which I agree 100%; a much more accurate statement than the banal "power corrupts" conventional wisdom.
In a way, Putin, a manager appointed to high office by mistake, proves this point. That he is unlike the usual sociopath ladder backstabbers in the West is the source of their undying hatred.
Anyway, latest rumours are that RU is going to cede the Zapo nuclear power plant. There also appears to be a psyop running on Twitter that Xi will be soft-couped because the populace are revolting against the zero-covid policy. I wonder.
Posted by: moaobserver | Nov 27 2022 17:38 utc | 57
@Posted by: Milos | Nov 27 2022 17:29 utc | 55
Yes, I think I left clear that I consider her the best amongst the current scum, but from that to declare her "greatness" there is a long path...
Alllowing for the bilding of NS I and II means nothing if your do little to uncover the take over and shenanigans by the US and Uk deep states to sacrifice Europe in the US profit altar.
She did nothing to fight the growing russophobia thorugh the Skripals and Navalny Novichok saga, with the Bundeswehr totally involved in the latter case.
Also she did nothing to save the European people from the pandemic genocide.
The great statewoman she is not, sorry, at least in my personal measure scale.
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 17:41 utc | 58
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 17:29 utc | 54
You must think we're as dumb as you are, and don't check anything.
So you want us to believe that the PM of Poland went to the village of Kozivka
(Козівка) Ternopil Oblast 404 State to honor Bandera ???
Looks to me like you are the "agent" of disinformation
Image of Бандера в Козивке
https://yadocent.livejournal.com/287856.html
and the BS offered by Безмозгов in comment #17 as Pole's PM in a village in the middle of nowhere in 404 State.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FigEyL0XwAM7SxW?format=jpg&name=large
Put on your glasses and looks close at the flower reef bozo.
Pretty clear you're just a wanking liar.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Nov 27 2022 17:47 utc | 59
I was always into a Star Trek future, but I was a naive kid.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 27 2022 17:20 utc | 52
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I have always been astonished that the focus of traditional Western cultural works seems to be predominantly based on a recognizable decadent tendency towards morbidity. Cultural pessimism in its purest form, so to speak, which bluntly covers people's souls like a lead coat.
The western cultural landscape seems overgrown beyond recognition with dystopian delusions, but what is almost entirely absent is a certain cultural optimism that cannot be dismissed as naïve, kitschy or childish.
Posted by: Nobody | Nov 27 2022 17:53 utc | 60
Posted by: Tom Stone | Nov 27 2022 15:30 utc | 28
"What happened to Journalistic Integrity?"
Such a thing has never existed. Literally.
Upton Sinclair The Brass Check
Posted by: David F | Nov 27 2022 17:58 utc | 61
Frank Herbert gave us a lecture at UCSB in the early 70's (close enough).
Dune was very popular then-- and he delivered.
Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Nov 27 2022 18:03 utc | 62
@Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 17:41 utc | 58
In summary, she did little to save the European continent from war, she just went on retirement and left the comprador others in charge. She could continue at the front line as others who worked to the last breath, even terminally ill, like Mr. Andropov or Mr. Primakov...but, well, that happens only in Russia...She is not Russian....
She left the other work freely through the whole pandemic, which acted as conditioning event for the peoples of Europe not daring now going into the streets to protest war, as they felt dissapointed with the alleged left which united the right to crush the taxpayers who refused to comply and thus threw the European population into the convincement that they lack real representatives at European institutions and even their own governments and parliaments. The joining of the unions to the whole of the political spectrum in crushing and bringing the population to comply with the runining of Europe added for the death of working masses movilization due the lack of leaders who move them out of theri current stubborness.
Everybpdy with a hint of memory recognized fascism being impossed in Europe thorugh the past three years, yet the majority do not want to be signaled as "enemy of the people" and prosecuted bhy the authoritirs and garden and neighborhood variety Gestapo which felt at ease with all these state of affairs and even managed to rise in the social ladder....
There were dissident medical doctors who were interned in psychiatric wards for stating what incresingly is being unveiled even by the mass media and prominent scientific publications now...
That permeated people´s minds and was interiorized, no doubt, that, and the overwhelming brainwashing propaganda made the rest....
As a sample that they, the elites, are convinced that acceptation of fascism has gone through the masses inner core, the fact that the whole EU voted this year against Russia promoted initiative to condemn apology of nazism at the UN...They had abstained the previous years, yet this year dared to vote against it... they did even allegedly "socialist" governments in Europe like those in charge in Spain and Portugal...who at their own countries perform they oposse fascism through implementing "Historic Memory Laws"..but then train Ukrainian nazis on their soil and send weapons to the Ukrainian nazi regime......
Another cognitive dissonance to add to the general behavior of the elites in the EU....
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 18:03 utc | 63
@ 35 Ghost of Mozgovoy - That is very scary information. Do you know who Curso Nacional, source of the quote, is. I can't link on them from the Twitter link.
Thank you.
Posted by: lex talionis | Nov 27 2022 18:07 utc | 64
The Realist wing of US foreign policy - represented by the Quincy Institute and its website Responsible Statecraft - weighs in on the "difficult relationship" between the Ukrainian state and the Crimean peninsula.
While maintaining that Russia orchestrated an "illegal annexation", the essay is quite thorough in demolishing the notion that Crimea is some sort of integral component of a Ukraine nation.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/11/25/the-tragedy-of-crimea/
Posted by: jayc | Nov 27 2022 18:09 utc | 65
@60;
That may be, but the "Eurasian" cultural landscape seems to be about a paranoid man running around shouting about rainbows, rainbows everywhere - gays are out of the closet and under my bed!!
From the Russian Embassy to Canada official Twitter account:
https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassyC
25.11.2022:
"It is all about family. Family is a man and a woman and children."
(Picture of a rainbow flag with a cancel symbol through it attached)
25.11.2022:
An image bearing a quote saying
"Canada and a range of other States-supporters of the neoliberal agenda are deliberately distorting the reality by conflating the concepts of individual sexual preferences and universal human rights."
(Quote is from a longer embassy statement)
27.11.2022:
"And yes, there are just two sexes/genders - a man and a woman, male and female."
(Photo of a painting of Adam and Eve attached)
27.11.2022
"In Russia you are free to be you & and to protect your children while they are minors from being imposed and imprinted by aggressive propaganda."
(Photo of an Orthodox painting of Mary Magdalene attached)
I have no idea how anyone in the Canadian Embassy, or in the Kremlin, thinks that this has some kind of appeal to your average Western audience.
Stupid and reactionary. Can you imagine the Soviet Union pulling nonsense like this, let alone in the middle of a war?
This kind of thing will cement loyalty to the Western regime amongst normal people. Promotion of 100 genders etc might be a bit "woke" and daft but excessive virtue-signalling seems better than the alternative of some dour Orthodox priest screaming at you for being gay.
Posted by: moaobserver | Nov 27 2022 18:13 utc | 66
i don't think Americans, at any rate have learned much in the past century. I just saw a reference to Hanoi Jane (Jane Fonda) in a discussion about some US athletes visiting Chenchnya. To Americans, every war is world war 1 or world war 2, and they are taught that America saved Europe in both wars. there is some cynicism and opposition, but I'm not sure that is greater than in past wars, or that it would be even if the media were not so completely controlled.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 27 2022 18:22 utc | 67
Some simple arithmetic about Merkel
1 - 12 February 2015
"Ukraine crisis: Leaders agree peace roadmap"
"French President Francois Hollande said he and German Chancellor Angela Merkel would ask their European Union partners to support the deal at a summit in Brussels on Thursday."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31435812
2 - 24 March 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525
3 - 8 July 2015
After this Merkel got the message loud and clear who's in charge of playing the Grand Chess Game. Had she stuck around longer she would have been the recipient of a bigger message when NS2 was blown.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Nov 27 2022 18:28 utc | 68
Posted by: Tom_12 | Nov 27 2022 18:28 utc | 68
That's really good detective work, Tom.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 27 2022 18:36 utc | 69
Don Bacon @25--
Precisely! Merkel is THE Guilty One for both UNSC 2022 and the NS 1&2 blasts since she refused to let them go operational and presided over the sanctions for NS1's turbines. I criticized Merkel before but few seems to share my assessment. Perhaps now we'll see some better-informed viewpoints on just who is primarily guilty for what's now happening.
For the gatekeepers here who celebrate having got Merkel out of combat, be careful not cheering before time has arrived....
Read at a very well informed source, that there are alredy protestors in Kiev and that Zelensky, from his well illuminated and heated bunker in Poland is blaming Kiev´s mayor, Klitschko...
I think it was Nasrallah who, in one of his memorable speeches, that time referring to "moderate rebels" in Syria, said that we have the advantage that fanatics always end fighting and killing each other....
Merkel, who, like every elite out there has much to lose by opossing foreign powerful people, may have succumbed to menaces and blackmail, but you will achieve nothing agsint the anger of empoverished, hunger and frozen people who are already at the death´s waiting room...
I think you will leave Ukraine even at more fast pace than you left Afghanistan, not in vain these are slavic people...
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 18:38 utc | 71
@Tom_12 | Nov 27 2022 18:28 utc | 68
Very interesting. I have been wondering about the Germanwings crash since it happened, but didn't make this connection. Similar to 22. July 2011 when Stoltenberg was PM in Norway.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 27 2022 18:47 utc | 72
Regardless of technology..... Some things will never change because of set natural laws. When you can't move to avoid concentrated fire you must go below grade.. into the ground. When there is no percolation into the soil because of clay or high water table then surface water goes to lowest point and that's the bottom of your hole. Lessons learnt 100 years ago on the fields of Belgium are irrelevant in reality when it comes to trench warfare/hasty defensive fighting positions..anyhooo....it really seems like there is no regard for Ukrainian servicemen....I mean little effort to retrieve the dead is a huge red flag for me... psychologically for a soldier "no man left behind" is a foundation of the true motivation of fighting men which revolves around men with strong bonds fighting to protect each other ultimately. I suspect the mobilization has been centered on ethnic Russian Ukrainian populations whilst Western Ukraine is left intact. This would explain the hesitancy of Russia to steamroll units to their front but also very telling that specialized paramilitary units are to the rear pushing the Ukrainian forces forward and then purposely commiting atrocities against Russian servicemen and LPR and DNR militias....trying to initiate reprisals and drive a wedge between the Slavic cousins. During the Vietnam war the Tet offensive was initiated by Hanoi and decimated the Viet Cong as a fighting force and controlling element...in essence the war and control of it was transferred to the North. Is the West culling Eastern Ukrainian populations?
Posted by: Joe | Nov 27 2022 18:48 utc | 73
@Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 27 2022 18:47 utc | 72
The best part from the people who base their "power" on bragging, fiat money and bad arts is that when things start going really badly they cna not but increasing the noise rastio of bragging leading to spill the beans on their own on events of which we never knew who the real cuprits were, making the necessity for whistleblowers futile....
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 18:55 utc | 75
Tom@68
I read the three links, but i'm obviously missing how they are connected to each other, and how they sent a message.
Give me a hint?
Posted by: David F | Nov 27 2022 18:57 utc | 76
🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦US military recognized the high losses of the AFU near BakhmutToday,Ukrainian public figure Olena Galushko reported that AFU began to lose about 250 people in the Bakhmut area. These words confirm the American edition of the New York Times.
"Despite the fact that they celebrated successes elsewhere, Ukrainian forces in one small eastern city are being ruthlessly attacked by Russian. And the struggle for its retention is only intensifying," the publication reports.
Also "PMC Wagner" chief Yevgeny Prigozhin commented on the storming of Artemovsk today:
"Bahkmut is a large, well-fortified area with roads, suburbs, and water barriers. The Ukrainian army is well-prepared and offers decent resistance.
Our task is not Bakhmut itself, but to destroy the Ukrainian army and reduce its combat potential, which is extremely positive in other directions, which is why this operation has been dubbed the "Bakhmut meat grinder."
In this regard, do not run ahead of the locomotive, we will let you know, happiness loves silence"
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/27/world/europe/ukraine-war-bakhmut.html
NYT reports on the losses of AFU soldiers, naming a figure of 250 wounded per day.
https://t.me/azmilitary11/29586
Posted by: Down South | Nov 27 2022 19:02 utc | 77
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 27 2022 18:36 utc | 69
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 27 2022 18:47 utc | 72
At that time the possibility of bringing peace in Ukraine was very high. The fact that US was not involved suggested (obviously) that they were not interested in this. Then the air crash happened. The excused made was that the guy had psychological problem blah blah.
"The crash was deliberately caused by the co-pilot, Andreas Lubitz, who had previously been treated for suicidal tendencies and declared "unfit to work" by his doctor. "
To imagine that a German company would let something like this sly by made absolutely no sense to me. Still doesn't. But as we know, the Empire of Chaos doesn't give a fiddle about sending messages through people's deaths.
So my hypothesis is that this was deliberate. Even if Germany had evidence of this they would not play this card because if 3000 people can be sacrificed, a couple of high up German official wouldn't phase whoever these people are behind this acts.
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/980658588279607296?lang=en
Posted by: Tom_12 | Nov 27 2022 19:03 utc | 78
Posted by: David F | Nov 27 2022 18:57 utc | 76
Hope my comment #78 helps. I could be full of it, who knows.
Now back to the World Cup :-)
Posted by: Tom_12 | Nov 27 2022 19:08 utc | 79
@ Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 18:38 utc | 71
"For the gatekeepers here who celebrate having got Merkel out of combat, be careful not cheering before time has arrived...."
I think that the smarter part of EU is regretting that Angie didn't stay one more turn. I even hear this from some leftist friends in Germany.
Merkel definitely regretted Uschi v.d. Leyen being put in any position above lousy secretary, but Angie had to do it to please more conservative wings of CDU/CSU.
U.v.d.L screwed up everything she touched, including Bundeswehr and in the good old manner, to get rid of her they sent her to EU, where she continued messing up stuff, as we see.
Questions arise more on the front of the accountability and that woman must answer for her dirty deeds, starting from her corrupt activities in Bundeswehr, mails she 'lost' while dealing with Pfizer, up to screwing up EU beyond recognition. She is a kind of German Liz Truss.
The other rotten fruit is BoJo, that also has to answer his engagement being directly guilty for destroying Ukraine and indirectly killing 500.000 + Ukrainians.
The third is Jens 'Utøya' Stoltenberg that acted as a biggest asshole one can imagine ever since he started his cold calculated political career. He was the PM I believe, when neo-Nazi Brevik did massacred 70+ young people of the leftist orientation on Utøya.
Very lousy reaction and a nation's lead through such tragedy was his mark on Norwegian society and politics. So he progressed to NATO. Wild choice indeed.
Then there is a pile of various and rather unimportant bureaucrats leading various smaller countries, and as Germany didn't denazify after the WWII thanks to US, Europe has to rinse and repeat.
But this time be more detailed and focused on who did what.
I do hope that this time EU citizens will not forget who was who and one day will seek and find accountable those who created and supported this mess.
I am sure there is a list of such persons in the making. Probably RF has one too.
Posted by: whirlX | Nov 27 2022 19:09 utc | 80
@Tom_12 | Nov 27 2022 19:03 utc | 78
I think that is a convincing hypothesis...
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 27 2022 19:13 utc | 81
@ Jo Dominich "They should, as an exercise, read their own statements and replace the word Russia(ns) with the word Jews or Israel. It would reflect to them just how Nazi and Fascist they are." More helpful and perhaps less insightful to consider Capitalism and zionism polarity to Socialism and Communism.
WTF in association with WEF
https://www.socialistlabourparty.org/post/newsletter-of-international-energy-and-mines-on-ukraine-nuclear-reactor-etc-aug-sept-2022
For Water Cooler see Trench life image at top of post.
Posted by: DDJ | Nov 27 2022 19:13 utc | 82
Posted by: moaobserver | Nov 27 2022 18:13 utc | 66
Thank you for the wonderful quotes from the Russian embassy.
Posted by: Passerby | Nov 27 2022 19:14 utc | 83
@whirlX | Nov 27 2022 19:09 utc | 80
Very good on Utøya and Stoltenberg. There is more to that story, but your summary makes the main point. The rest of your post outlines the bigger mess we are in. Thank you, this needs to be understood so the guilty can be held to account.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 27 2022 19:30 utc | 84
Tom@78
I wasn't suggesting you are full of it, I thought I missed something while reading the links you provided. I am unable to follow the logic of how these three event are tied together. I am also unable to see any reason, other than don't believe anything you are told, to question the official reason given for the plane crash.
I honestly don't see how the events are connected. Germans are too efficient and thorough for the plane crash to have happened as was stated?
Are there ever any accidents or events that aren't tied to some nefarious master plan?
Posted by: David F | Nov 27 2022 19:38 utc | 85
Follow up thought on my post at 85.
These same efficient and thorough germans failed to detect that her phone was tapped by the NSA.
Posted by: David F | Nov 27 2022 19:53 utc | 86
Posted by: moaobserver | Nov 27 2022 18:13 utc | 66
excessive virtue-signalling seems better than the alternative of some dour Orthodox priest screaming at you for being gay.
I prefer the Orthodox priest screaming at you for being gay. Because the alternative nowadays is having some dour LGBTQ+ activist scream at me for being … normal.
Most of the world is on Russia’s side, culturally. The West has become abnormal, and is becoming more and more culturally disgusting.
Posted by: Augustus Caesar | Nov 27 2022 19:54 utc | 87
@87
Irrelevant. The Embassy in Canada should be promoting Russia to Canadians, and Canadians are the virtue signallers par excellence.
Alt right homophobia is a minority position in western countries, more importantly, it is reactionary.
Be interesting to see what Bevin would say here..
Posted by: Moaobserver | Nov 27 2022 19:57 utc | 88
We will all miss Angela Merkel's "weapons of mass distraction."
Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Nov 27 2022 19:58 utc | 89
Posted by: David F | Nov 27 2022 19:53 utc | 86
excellent point. they possibly looked the other way, like they are on the demolition of the pipeline, but that hardly enhances their credibility.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 27 2022 19:59 utc | 90
@Posted by: whirlX | Nov 27 2022 19:09 utc | 80
You take for sure that the lists of willing collaborators in the destruction, invasion and colonization of European countries are kept by groups of relevant and informed people at each and every European nation for when the proper time arribes.
In this group there are those damnified by the demonization and depuration of elites and possible elites at the top in European countries like those who were displaced by Integrity Initiative information operations, but not only, there are also well prepared and educated people from the military, lawfare, business and academy who are not willing to leave their countries being sold, taken over and ensalved by foreign powers and agents.
The preparations of all this started years ago, through the 8 years since the Maidan coup, even before while the nazi battallions were being trained and armed somewhere in Europe...
Necessary collaborators in the preparations for the total ruin and enslavization of Europe are:
-Several British PM, Thatcher, Blair, May, Johnson, Truss, Sunak...for now...
-Several US WH cabinets, Obama´s, Trump´s, Biden´s, US Intelligence Agencies, Pentagon and the MIC.
-Sillicon Valley, US Big Tech and the Alphabet group as necessary censors crushing dissenting voices.
-Institutions related to biological chemical warfare like Porton Down, University of Carolina, Charité Klinik Berlin, Wuhan Level 4 lab, Ukraine US managed biological warfare labs, and foreign agents into European countries armies like the Bundeswehr, Sweden Armed Forces, Swiss Armed Forces, and so on...
-Davos "Young Leaders" and agents like Macron ( Rothschild Bank ), Trudeau, Sánchez, Baerbock, Dragui, Mytsotakis, Von der Leyen, Kallas, Marin, Morawiecki, Sandu, president encargados like former housewife Tykhanouskaya, and the like...
-The mass media conglomerate now in hands of US hedge funds, banks and corporations.
-US and European Big Pharma.
-US think tanks and their franchises in Europe like the CFR, Atlantic Council, etc...
-High office Brussels and NATO bureaucrats like Solana ( who directed some European countries´ "experts committees" on pandemics even when not being a epidemiologist nor a medical doctor...), Stoltenberg, Borrell, Charles Michel, Thierry Breton, Ursula Von der Leyen, Stella Kyriakides, Christine Lagarde, etc..
-International bodies corrupted to the core by US public and corporate funding like WHO, UN, UNESCO, UNICEF, UNHRC, OPCW, OSCE, EHRC, The Hague Tribunal, Council of Europe, European Comission, European Parliament.... and almost all European governments at their own national level...
-Members of the European Parliament and European nations national parliaments on payrole by Soros institutions, the US Democratic and Republican parties, US corporations and transnational financial institutions and banks.
etc....
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Nov 27 2022 20:02 utc | 91
@ Ghost of Mosgovy 71
I find it curious that Merkel thinks she can scrub out her shameless legacy of Germany running the USUKIS war against Syria from Turkey for 10 years , emptying Syria and hosting millions of Syrian refugees , just by saying she wasn't involved in destroying Ukraine.
Posted by: Giyane | Nov 27 2022 20:17 utc | 92
Posted by: whirlX | Nov 27 2022 19:09 utc | 80
It seemed very obvious that in her last year Merkel was not at all well. She had obvious shaking fits. Now either she had/has some serious health issues or just possibly she was in fear of her life- perhaps anticipating assassination when in public. Whatever the cause, her last year was very weak and she was a lame duck chancellor..
Posted by: watcher | Nov 27 2022 20:40 utc | 93
❗️The railway in Krivoy Rog in Ukraine will not work for a long time, - head of the Krivoy Rog military administration Yevgeny Sitnichenko.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/22563
From what I can pick up the strike prevents the 17th Tank brigade from deploying via rail.
This outage is critical. Kivroy Rog is the rail hub for east bound traffic to both Zaproizhe and Diepr, from which cargoes go eastward to the front. A look at the map confirms this.
This strike is not accidental. It is for the express purpose of immobilizing Ukie reserve formations, and denying front line units ammo, gas, and food.
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 27 2022 20:41 utc | 94
moaobserver:
You may believe that Canadians, like Americans, truly believe that there are more than two sexes, and that drag queens are appropriate role models for toddlers, but I think the Russian Embassy is more in touch with reality than you are.
Reality-based citizens of the US and Canada are targeted, harassed, fired, fined and threatened if they dare express the view that humans are a sexually dimorphic species, or if they refuse to submit to the dictates of children announcing their "preferred pronouns".
People are too afraid of getting banned, or losing their jobs, or being attacked on the street by purple-haired, nose-ringed thugs enforcing the Establishment decrees of biological unreality and pretense.
But inside they know the difference between men and women. It is part of every species innate abilities. The western attempt to force its citizens to deny reality, like in 1984 when Winston is forced to say that he sees five fingers instead of four, is a hallmark of totalitarianism, and it is deeply resented by normal rational humans.
The Russian Embassy saying what Canadians and Americans are forbidden to say is them showing an example of true freedom in action, and is a sign to westerners that Russia is holding up an example of liberty and freedom that citizens in the US and Canada have lost, the right to say the obvious in public.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Nov 27 2022 20:48 utc | 95
He did ?????
Where can we find a confirmation of this ????
Posted by: Tom_12 | Nov 27 2022 17:13 utc | 49
an example:https://notesfrompoland.com/2022/07/12/russias-war-offers-chance-for-poland-and-ukraine-to-reconcile-over-wwii-massacre-says-polish-pm/
Posted by: Bazil | Nov 27 2022 20:54 utc | 96
A Civilian working with the Ukrainian Soldiers being trained in the UK by the British military has leaked on Telegram that most of the Ukrainians are not raw recruits, but are in fact combat vets or have recently completed training in Ukraine.
The 5 week course the British are running is not Basic light, but a conversation course from Soviet weapon systems to NATO systems.
The current batch are being trained on NATO 5.56mm platforms and ATGM, plus FIBUA tactics.
Potential NCOs and potential Officers are also being identified for further training.
This is bigger than most people recognise.
Posted by: British Observer | Nov 27 2022 21:00 utc | 97
That's a muddy mess right there. Submersible pumps, the kind you use to empty swimming pools, they are about $50 (or so) at most retailers that carry them. You can run them on a generator pretty easy.
As for the rest of the mess...
Well...
I'm guessing that the ass kicking is going to continue for a bit longer.
It was a surprise when the Ukrainian counteroffensive came that they had been sending disposable cannonfodder to the front while the valuable solders were being trained elsewhere. Now I wonder how many of the Ukrainian dead and wounded were Russian speaking.
Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Nov 27 2022 21:04 utc | 99
WhirlX no. 80
"I do hope that this time EU citizens will not forget who was who and one day will seek and find accountable those who created and supported this mess."
Nuremberg Trials?
Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Nov 27 2022 21:22 utc | 100
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On 2 september the German FDP parliamentary fraction proposed to dismantle the part of Nord Stream 2 in German waters. The proposal did not prosper. On 26 september Nord Stream was blown up.
Posted by: Passerby | Nov 27 2022 13:12 utc | 1