Outraged @ 63
I haven’t yet noticed young boys in the UAF lines but I will watch. Boys that young are not going to be there for fighting. They will cook and clean (probably badly) and be available for (ahem) personal service. The Azov types are mostly oriented towards that.

Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 20 2022 21:28 utc | 103

The Azov types are mostly oriented towards that.
Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 20 2022 21:28 utc | 103
—
I think they call them bacha nazi.

Posted by: Nobody | Nov 20 2022 21:44 utc | 105

Question for those better informed in military matters than I:
Assuming the forces Russia has on hand after partial mobilization are sufficient for offensive operations, would it be advantageous for Russia to wait for Ukraine to launch its Zaporizhe offensive in order to wear down Ukrainian forces before launching its own offensive(s), or try to preempt the Zaporizhe offensive by launching its own offensive on another front?

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Nov 20 2022 21:48 utc | 107

Justin Trudeau is a groupie PM who likes to be associated with popular causes. In this case, because of the large Ukrainian diaspora, his new best friend is Zelensky. Nevertheless Canadians are suffering from inflation, partially attributable to sanctions, and we look across the north to Russia and it’s long arctic coastline. So our PM is getting lots of photo ops and sound bites but seems to be more worried about protecting Ukraine than Canadians.

Posted by: PBR Street Gang | Nov 20 2022 21:50 utc | 109

Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant
The UN nuclear watchdog said some buildings, equipment, and systems at the plant, which is under Russian control, have been damaged but there has been nothing critical to nuclear safety and security.
“Whoever is behind this, it must stop immediately,” IAEA chief Rafael Grossi said on Twitter. “You’re playing with fire,” he added.
Dear Sarah Wagenknecht please ask again in the German Bundestag if
1) it is technically possible at all to verify, to assign and to prove in war zones which participant is firing rockets and grenades ?
2) if yes, whether the German army or forces within the NATO formations have acquired knowledge in the last months who fired shells and rockets at the nuclear power plant Zaporizhzhya in Ukraine?
3) and if so, whether these findings were published and if so, where ?
If the answer is the same as in the NS1 and NS2 question, that possible findings must not be made public for reasons of state, not even against the elected representatives of the people, then no-answer is also a clear answer.
The federal government is secretly in bed with nuclear terrorists, while it publicly pays homage to a commitment to humanism.
Translated with http://www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Posted by: marquesatheresa | Nov 20 2022 21:53 utc | 111

@ S.P. Korolev | Nov 20 2022 21:48 utc | 107
UAF offensives don’t actually exist. Lost that minimal capability many months ago.
Only capable of localized attacks which have diminished over time. No ability to sieze defended/contested ground, nor hold it against determined counter-attack if they could.
Due men & materiel attrition to as little as: 1 MBT, 2 obsolete APCs, 5 Techicals(armed pickup trucks) & two scratch composite Inf Coys attacking without proper arty fire prep, little counter-battery fire capability, no AD, no air support, being slaughtered, & the survivors hightailing it out.
Rinse & repeat.
RF has total, absolute Strategic & Operational initiative & battlefield dominance at the FEBA & beyond, & can operationally do as they wish.
UAF ceased to exist months ago … along with their NCO & Junior/Senior tactical command officers, many times over.
‘Tis just throwing bodies ford to catch bullets & shell splinters.
Peace

Posted by: Outraged | Nov 20 2022 22:04 utc | 113

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 20 2022 21:46 utc | 106
I have no idea whether it’s true or not! I found that Telegram post interesting.
Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Nov 20 2022 21:48 utc | 107
Russia does have a problem of political decision (s). There is no certainty that the Kremlin is able to gather the will to win at all.
In my (humble) view, it is important not to react but to keep the initiative and wield the conflict rather than react and being wielded.
An obvious way to end the conflict radically would be a big armored push (12 division or 150.000 troops) from BELARUS to MOLDOVA (and beyond to Odessa and Black Sea) Russia does have the means to do so, but the will is rather doubtful.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Nov 20 2022 22:05 utc | 115

That is: 12 divisions or 150,000 troops …

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Nov 20 2022 22:07 utc | 117

@ Passerby | Nov 20 2022 22:04 utc | 114
@ Dani | Nov 20 2022 21:58 utc | 112
Beat me to it, yet Dani is razor sharp. Brilliant informed satire.
Peace

Posted by: Outraged | Nov 20 2022 22:10 utc | 119

… the next step will be waves of cheap drones from Ukrainian side. …
Posted by: moaobserver | Nov 20 2022 16:44 utc | 24
That at least makes sense as a conjecture, even if you state it as a certainty. It’s difficult enough to form a coherent picture of where the drone conflict is right now let alone where it’s going.
There is some information about drones that were deployed before SMO but both side seem to be a tight lipped about recent developments … US secrecy around Phoenix Ghost seems a bit odd – I’m wondering if it has an anti-personnel mode (human targeting profile) because that is technically plausible and would be controversial enough to warrant suspiciously vague media coverage.

Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 20 2022 22:15 utc | 121

@ Greg Galloway | Nov 20 2022 20:54 utc | 98
Suggest Dmitry Medvedev’s assigned role is bad cop, blunt PUBLIC attack dog, to Putin/Lavrov Good Cop. Long time demonstrated proven loyal associate of Putin & the middle-ranking ‘Siloviki’ from pre USSR collapse.

Posted by: Outraged | Nov 20 2022 22:20 utc | 123

outraged@93
That would have had to be one helluva large beer coaster for all that to fit on!

Posted by: Safe | Nov 20 2022 22:33 utc | 125

Greg Galloway @ 115

An obvious way to end the conflict radically would be a big armored push (12 division or 150.000 troops) from BELARUS to MOLDOVA (and beyond to Odessa and Black Sea) Russia does have the means to do so, but the will is rather doubtful.

Ridiculous, Ukraine is too big and the Ukrainians whatever else have proven their moxie and are dug in so well that up to now have made battles bare 100 meter a day contests for the Russians.
Anything short of a million man army, and all the equipment and logistics necessary, and the Russians would over-extend their lines again like they did before Kharov, Liman and Kherson. Every city and town particularly Nikolaev would have to be take in hand to hand combat like Mariupol. The Belarus troops unlike Wagner/Checens/Donbas militias are completely unseasoned.
Territory taken would require being held, which they couldn’t do before with 200k men and they won’t be able to do now. Citizens along the way would have to be provided for and it’s winter. Belarus w/o those troops is open to invasion by Poland and the Baltics.
You can be sure there are duffel bags stuffed with $100 bricks being offered to generals and colonels in Belarus to surrender their battalions and companies the moment NATO makes their move from Poland. That’s why there are 80K Russian forces there, to prevent rouge commanders in Belarus from surrendering and/or effecting a coup on Lukashenko. IMO the forces in Belarus are pinned there.
Russia is doing what it’s doing because that’s the best they can do. They will take the Donbass then who the hell knows, but they won’t be marching to Odessa from Belarus.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 20 2022 22:41 utc | 127

War will end when crypto crashes

Posted by: mcohen | Nov 20 2022 22:44 utc | 129

Assuming the forces Russia has on hand after partial mobilization are sufficient for offensive operations, would it be advantageous for Russia to wait for Ukraine to launch its Zaporizhe offensive in order to wear down Ukrainian forces before launching its own offensive(s), or try to preempt the Zaporizhe offensive by launching its own offensive on another front?
Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Nov 20 2022 21:48 utc | 107
If Russia continues as it has been, then it will do the former, attacking Ukrainian units as they form up to attack, then allowing the Ukrainians to advance into Russian artillery/aircraft killing zones.
But General Armageddon may have different ideas.

Posted by: JohninMK | Nov 20 2022 22:55 utc | 131

Petri kohn at no.1
In 2013 bitcoin began to head towards the peak at the start of the ukr/rus war.
As soon as it peaked russia attacked,using crypto to fund the war.That is the real reason.
Notice how crypto started to decline as the war progressed.
Now all the crypto is sold off and the russians are stuck in the folded crane.
Hahahahahahaha.

Posted by: mcohen | Nov 20 2022 22:59 utc | 133

JohninMK @ 126
Thanks, very informative. UK is nuts to be so tied to the continent for power, it’s like handcuffing yourself to a radiator. Part of the neoliberal globalist prison plan.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 20 2022 23:11 utc | 135

Thanks, very informative. UK is nuts to be so tied to the continent for power, it’s like handcuffing yourself to a radiator. Part of the neoliberal globalist prison plan.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 20 2022 23:11 utc | 135
Very few countries are not tied to someone for power, but we are not “tied to the continent for power”, Norway not normally being regarded as part of the ‘continent’. We have taken very little Russian gas, either pipeline or LNG since 2019. We mainly bought French electricity as it was cheaper than firing up one of our gas PP.

Posted by: JohninMK | Nov 20 2022 23:24 utc | 137

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 20 2022 22:41 utc | 127
The goal of any war is the destruction of enemy forces.
Most Ukie forces are in Donbass and on the east bank of the Dnieper.
A big Russian Southbound push would cut Ukie forces from their western supplies, and lead to opportunities of destruction of foes.
I think 12 divisions might be enough do the work on the Western bank, bypassing Kiev, along the line Korosten/Jitomir/Vinnitsia/Tiraspol.
If not, the “Stavka”, has to figure out which number is the right one and raise it’s punch to that level.
Of course anything we write is public so they probably wouldnt follow such advice. I just hope Russian generals at least have some alternate plan to severe Ukraine army supply lines.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Nov 20 2022 23:38 utc | 139

Petri Krohn @ 1, James @ 20:
In 2013, Viktor Yanukovych was President of Ukraine. He was painted in the Western media as pro-Putin and pro-Russian though in reality he was looking out for No 1 and going with whatever side offered him a better deal and which he figured he could benefit from personally. He only had another two years before presidential elections in 2015, at which he probably would have been thrown out for incompetent and corrupt leadership, and replaced by another run-of-the-mill corrupt Ukrainian politician, probably Julia Timoshenko.
Indeed, what stayed his hand from signing the EU / Ukraine Association Agreement in November 2013 was Russia offering membership in the Eurasian economic union along with financial assistance and maybe various other sweeteners. Yanukovych was warned by his own advisors (and perhaps by Moscow) that the EU / Ukraine Assocation Agreement offered no guarantee of EU membership and/or joining the Schengen Zone (for visa-free travel) even if after a certain number of years Ukraine could comply with most conditions in the AA which included complying with EU regulations and standards. (Among other things, that would have meant Ukraine ripping up its entire railway network and sending all its train carriage stock to the scrapyard, because the railway line network and carriage stock were based on Russian gauge standards, not EU gauge standards – even though other EU members like Finland and Spain had not been required to do the same before joining the EU.)
It was Yanukovych’s reluctance to sign the AA that gave the green light (though Yanukovych could not have known) to the protests in Kiev that became the Maidan Revolution which itself devolved into the violence against Ukrainian police and protesters alike that threatened Yanukovych’s life and forced him to flee to Russia in February 2014.
Petri, are you saying that Russia should have meddled in Ukraine’s domestic affairs and foreign policy before February 2014? We could go the whole hog and say Russia should have stopped Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, and even Finland, from joining the EU – all these countries had been part of the Soviet Union or the Russian Empire in the past.

Posted by: Jen | Nov 20 2022 23:46 utc | 141

Three things that are inadvisable:
1) Tugging on Superman’s Cape.
2) Pee-ing against the wind.
3) Fighting a Winter War with Russia.

Posted by: cybervigilante | Nov 20 2022 23:52 utc | 143

Outraged @ 63 and 104, Old Hippie @ 103, Unimperator @ 138:
Most likely the teenagers on the front lines are being given Captagon – the same drugs given to ISIS fighters in Syria a decade ago and which ISIS themselves were manufacturing. Unimperator, I think this is what you are looking for.
I had heard also that women including pregnant women are being drafted into the Ukrainian army though at present I cannot point you to any sources. I think the draft will be by stealth: perhaps women in certain occupations (such as engineering, IT, surveying, medicine, nursing) are being drafted or at the very least not permitted to leave Ukraine, and then maybe gradually the draft will extend to all women over the age of 18 years.

Posted by: Jen | Nov 20 2022 23:56 utc | 145

@ unimperator | Nov 20 2022 23:26 utc | 138
Indeed & it is absolutely abhorrent. Find … discussing it … distressing.
On top of that the missing unrecorded KIA children will NOT be reported KIA, so the Ukies can continue to loot their AFU soldat paybooks. Hence the children’s parents will never know their fate, or at least for many many years to come.
The Ukies have run regular camps where the adventures are mil obstacle courses, cleaning, maintenance, marksmanship & real fire practice from different positions re various weapons from pistols to AKs to LMGs … including conditioning re reaction to surprise grenade explosions nearby. This been the case for school, summer & adventure camps for 8 years now mixed boys & girls. The vids exist.
Have they then deployed girls 10 & up too ???
Bustard scum. 🙁

Posted by: Outraged | Nov 21 2022 0:06 utc | 147

With all this talk of drafts and army size, one thing that does not make sense to me is that the countries in question have populations well in excess of what was available during WWI and yet the army sizes and range of available recruits are significantly smaller. What gives?
For example: Imperial Germany at the outset of WWI had a population of ~65Mil and mustered around 14Mil soldiers during the course of the war and yet THE Ukraine has a pop of around 25-30Mil (depening upon how many have fled) and they are scraping the bottom of the barrel with the drafting of a few hundred thousand. Futhermore an offensive with ~40k massed soldiers is considered large. None of this makes sense.

Posted by: me | Nov 21 2022 0:18 utc | 149

Thanks @all for the responses to my query.
I lean towards JohninMK’s perspective @131 that Russia will likely use the failure of a Ukrainian offensive to go on the offensive themselves. Thus we are unlikely to see any ‘big arrow moves’ from Russia until Ukraine commits a large force to capture an adequately defended part of Russian territory. If this offensive never comes (as Outraged @113 suggests) it may be a sign that we are approaching a ‘freezing’ of the conflict around the current line of contact.

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Nov 21 2022 0:20 utc | 151

I wonder what police interrogators and body language experts might have to say about this footage, in which Zelensky doubles down on his claim that Russian missiles landed in Poland even after it was completely busted with physical evidence.
https://sonar21.com/ukraines-epic-fail-at-manufacturing-a-false-flag/

Posted by: Thirdeye | Nov 21 2022 0:34 utc | 153

I don’t care anymore to see fools, posting their nonsense on the Net.
Some idiot really thinks a country can survive with all its infrastructure destroyed?
Of course, Russia could have destroyed everything like the American assassins did in Iraq. But I think that Putin and the leaders of Russia thought that the Nazis in Kiev would not be such imbeciles and idiots. Wait a little bit more! What lies ahead will be the hell these Nazis never imagined in their lives. NATO/US/EU know this, and are doing everything to get the clown who threw Ukraine into the abyss to start negotiating.
Idiots still cannot understand that today Russia is not just fighting the Nazis in Ukraine, but 30 countries?
And many of these countries have already put troops on the ground disguised as “volunteers” and mercenaries.
VICTORY will be difficult, painful and will cost the lives of many boys, victory is SURE!
As a Brazilian, I have no doubts.
Long live the fighters of civilization.

Posted by: Iza | Nov 21 2022 0:52 utc | 155

I’ve noticed in the last few “clobber list” MoD postings that the phenomena of ukies Not Advancing along such and such line is occurring. I think we’ve seen the last of ukie offensive maneuvers. I’m on the lookout for items describing russian forces “repositioning” themselves into thinly defended ukie positions.

Posted by: comrade simba | Nov 21 2022 1:06 utc | 157

There is, until today, no “magic” that the US/EU can do to replace “dirty” (cheap) energy, much less Russian gas, which is the cleanest and most economical.
When the colonies of Europe and its people wake up to the reality of FACTS, Ursula von der Leyen will be hung from a rope in a public square.

Posted by: Iza | Nov 21 2022 1:09 utc | 159

@mir 149
One of the great achievements of Prof. Dr. Dr. Gunnar Heinsohn of Bremen, Germany, emeritus, is the introduction of the “war index,” which describes future demographic changes. The war index of a country is defined as the ratio of the number of young men aged 15 to 19 to the number of men aged 55 to 59. The old will soon leave their jobs to make way for the young. With a war index < 1, as prevails in Germany and other developed countries, the next generation will find enough jobs. Excerpt from an article by Heinsohn, Feb. 22, 2022. "We don't see demonstrations in Russia for the conquest of Ukraine. There are no young men marching through Moscow or Petersburg expressing their willingness to sacrifice. Hardly anyone wants to die for Vladimir and Holy Russia. Their homeland is one of the shrinking nations, where the average age will rise from 24 to 40 between 1950 and 2021. The war index stands at around 0.7. For every 1,000 men between the ages of 55 and 59, there are only 700 youngsters between 15 and 19. The nation as a whole fears losses because a family line is wiped out with each casualty. Individuals, on the other hand, feel no inclination to die heroically because there are plenty of options. This is different in countries with a war index of 6, such as Mali or Yemen, where 6,000 youngsters compete for the positions of 1,000 old people and quickly realize that there is not enough for everyone. If the way out into emigration is then closed, rebellions or even revolutions begin - under noble ideals - which by no means eat their children but their brothers until a balance is reached. When America's commander-in-chief Mark Milley announced on February 5 that Putin would kill some 15,000 Ukrainians in his invasion, but that he himself would also lose 4,000 men, this had to worry him more than all the Western announcements of sanctions. Ukraine is also teetering demographically. It is raising its average age from 28 to 41 between 1950 and 2021 and is on comparably shaky ground in the war index. There may be more will to survive and be free than on the Russian side, but the willingness to accept losses will quickly fade. If Putin wants to triumph without losing thousands of soldiers, he must increase Ukrainian fear. He is doing so by having virtually all troops still operational at all threaten their borders. A shrewd adversary would attack him precisely where he has rendered himself defenseless. But he need not fear NATO. More than a fishing accident damaging the Nordstream pipeline is unlikely to be considered. Ukraine knows, of course, that Putin has 12,000 tanks. But it also knows that he cannot lose even 300 of them along with 900 to 1,200 soldiers burning in them. He would have mothers and widows in front of the Kremlin. Even under communism - in the Afghan war from 1979 to 1989 - women were not afraid to protest against the death of 13,000 men in the end. Putin is revered for conquering Crimea in 2014 without firing a single shot. 'Without the loss of a single soldier' translated the Home Front." https://www.wiwo.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise-putin-will-siegen-aber-nicht-kaempfen/28093650.html

Posted by: Uwe | Nov 21 2022 2:08 utc | 161

Posted by: moaobserver | Nov 20 2022 16:44 utc | 24
waves of cheap drones from Ukrainian side. …
Cheap? CHEAP? Nothing made in the West is CHEAP!
Not when a Pentagon procured hammer costs a million dollars.
(Unless they’re buying straight off AliBaba)

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 21 2022 2:49 utc | 163

“..When one drinks Guinness, with a raw muscle..” Outraged
This is about the tenth time this week I have seen a similar post.
We all know what muscles are. And nobody would think of putting one in a glass of stout even Guinness (The Poor Man’s Murphys).
The word is MUSSEL. On a subject as basic as this wikipedia is reliable
“Mussel (/ˈmʌsəl/) is the common name used for members of several families of bivalve molluscs, from saltwater and freshwater habitats. These groups have in common a shell whose outline is elongated and asymmetrical compared with other edible clams, which are often more or less rounded or oval…”

Posted by: bevin | Nov 21 2022 3:11 utc | 165

Posted by: Outraged | Nov 20 2022 22:10 utc | 119:
Beat me to it, yet Dani is razor sharp. Brilliant informed satire.
LOL brilliant Dani – and Outraged – I’ve caught up on your posts from previous threads, excellent.
Peace
Posted by: Dani | Nov 20 2022 22:18 utc | 122:
Don’t forget the tunnel to Sevastopol those 20,000 troops are digging from Snake Island, ready by December if I understand the Ukros plans for the triumphant ‘return’ of Crimea…
Posted by: Safe | Nov 20 2022 22:33 utc | 125:
Huge beer coaster or perhaps Outraged had access to some secret Ukie ‘hypersonic miniaturization’ tech LOL
Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 21 2022 0:42 utc | 154:
Great to see you posting again!
🙂
QK

Posted by: Qolotlh Kernow | Nov 21 2022 3:24 utc | 167

Posted by: Uwe | Nov 21 2022 2:08 utc | 161
Ukraine knows, of course, that Putin has 12,000 tanks. But it also knows that he cannot lose even 300 of them along with 900 to 1,200 soldiers burning in them. He would have mothers and widows in front of the Kremlin. Even under communism – in the Afghan war from 1979 to 1989 – women were not afraid to protest against the death of 13,000 men in the end.
What I can never understand about rationalizations like this (and variations thereof) is why they never consider the costs of the alternative.
They think Putin fears the loss of some portion of tanks or soldiers. They should consider he might fear Russia turning into Yugoslavia more.
Russians themselves need to awaken to what the West has planned for them – they need only look at Libya, Iraq, Syria to know their future if Putin loses.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Nov 21 2022 3:31 utc | 169

Thanks PavewayIV | Nov 21 2022 3:26 utc | 168
Was looking thru telegrams of all the cities in blackness for Bob… but I keep getting distracted.
The acres and acres and acres of cemeteries. All those thousands and thousands of blue and yellow flags, and 2metre high pyres of beautiful fresh flowers.
That’s the tell.
The cemeteries really whack me in the feels. There’s a telegram post with a babuska looking at the scene.
That’s what Ukraine will become. A nation almost entirely of elderly women, all mourning.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 21 2022 3:45 utc | 171

Mike Whitney at Unz on Ukraine. His article includes quotation from a yahoo 2015 piece
“..“The CIA is overseeing a secret intensive training program in the U.S. for elite Ukrainian special operations forces and other intelligence personnel, according to five former intelligence and national security officials familiar with the initiative. The program, which started in 2015, is based at an undisclosed facility in the Southern U.S., according to some of those officials….
“The United States is training an insurgency,” said a former CIA official, adding that the program has taught the Ukrainians how “to kill Russians.”
…the CIA and other U.S. agencies could support a Ukrainian insurgency, should Russia launch a large-scale incursion.
…“We’ve been training these guys now for eight years. They’re really good fighters. …representatives from both countries also believe that Russia won’t be able to hold on to new territory indefinitely because of stiff resistance from Ukrainian insurgents, according to former officials.
“If the Russians launch a new invasion, “there’s going to be people who make their life miserable,” said the former senior intelligence official…
“All that stuff that happened to us in Afghanistan,” said the former senior intelligence official, “they can expect to see that in spades with these guys.” (“CIA-trained Ukrainian paramilitaries may take central role if Russia invades”, Yahoo News)
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/putins-sledgehammer/

Posted by: bevin | Nov 21 2022 3:55 utc | 173

She’s of the social media generation.
She’s 18-24, So she knows precisely how to pose for a pic.:
A smirky, knowing smile; head slightly tilted, shoulders back and straight, so as her large, beautiful breasts strain against her tight t-shirt.
War is just an opportunity to pull on camo and look cute and sexy, holding a gun.
Next scene is an obviously dead and bloody corpse. Can’t say with certainty it’s her. But I think that’s the message.
https://t.me/xoxol_uk/8148

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 21 2022 4:03 utc | 175

Ukraine.
November. Winter.is. Come.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Militarylandnet/status/1593946680390402048

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 21 2022 4:15 utc | 177

there has been a photo of alleged dead murdered russian soldiers, lying face down. I cant locate that one now, however …
The American NYT reported that it confirmed the authenticity of video footage from the scene of the execution of Russian prisoners of war by the Ukrainian military
-OstashkoNews
Video via twitter/nitter
… the summary execution of surrendered, unarmed and defenceless soldiers. This is what @vonderleyen tells us #European values are. This is what you are paying for. Welcome to the new Europe.
https://nitter.net/i/status/1593689432133074951

Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 21 2022 4:29 utc | 179

Rybar machine trans
How the Ukrainian media justify the execution of Russian soldiers in Makiivka
After the appearance on the Web of footage of the murder of Russian prisoners of war in Makiivka in the LPR, a media campaign was launched in Kiev in order to justify the crimes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. To do this, they attracted a certain Thomas Tainer, who calls himself a former soldier of the Italian army, an expert on artillery and NATO.
In a commentary to the Ukrainian media, he stated that the Armed Forces of Ukraine were actually forced to shoot the fighters of the Russian Armed Forces due to the fact that one of them refused to surrender and showed up with a weapon. After that, members of the Ukrainian formations allegedly automatically opened fire on the rest of the unarmed people lying on the ground.prisoners, suspecting them of resistance.
🔻There is just one small detail: on the video from the murder scene, it is clearly visible that traces of blood and bullets hit all the bodies are in the head area. This means that everyone was killed in turn by an aimed shot in a calm environment, which completely excludes the version of a spontaneous execution.
The “expert” called by the Ukrainian media did not explain such an inconvenient fact. Which is not surprising, because what happened is clearly beyond his competence: although Tyner positions himself as a military specialist, in the early publications of Western publications, for some reason, he is listed only as a film producer, blogger or screenwriter.
If the Kyiv media, although extremely clumsily, tried to justify themselves for extrajudicial execution, then the APU reacted more simply: they reminded of the unspoken internal order not to get caught red-handed in the murder of prisoners. Which, by the way, appeared in the spring.
Under these conditions, it is somewhat reckless to expect from the Ukrainian formations a hint of humane treatment of those who have surrendered.
with the photo shot from above
https://t-me.translate.goog/rybar/41340?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 21 2022 4:42 utc | 181

🇷🇺 Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Marat Khusnullin spoke about the current situation with the restoration of Mariupol:
“In total, 28,000 builders work in the city. We are moving at a good pace, now we are restoring about 1,250 objects, while 150 houses have already been restored.
In general, we plan to complete our three-year plan for the restoration of multi-apartment housing in the city in 2 years!”

https://t.me/intelslava/41423

Posted by: Down South | Nov 21 2022 4:47 utc | 183

Dani @112
What utter bullshit
Snake Island is .17sq km
No way in hell it can accomodate 20,000 Ukrainian troops

Posted by: Fran | Nov 21 2022 4:49 utc | 185

Bob in Portland 136
You wrote: “I have heard of small anti-government demonstrations in Odessa. Any more information on that?”
Bob — it’s actually against the law in Ukraine to voice a view that is different than the government position, so I have not heard from any of my contacts in Odessa about a willingness to openly protest. People are afraid to say anything that contradicts the government position because they could be turned in as a collaborator and put in prison.
All opposition political parties in Ukraine have been banned, and only television stations controlled by the government are operating. I don’t think you’re going to hear from the many people who actually oppose being forced to speak Ukrainian instead of their native Russian language in Odessa until it’s clear that Russia is going to keep their promise by capturing Odessa and bringing to justice the Right Sector thugs who murdered the anti-Maidan protesters in 2014.
What bothers me most is that I can see people in Odessa who are now repeating Nazi slogans and trying to blend in — many people are choosing to no longer remember the murder of the anti-Maidan protesters, no longer remember the civilians in the Donbas who have been killed by the Ukraine military, and only want to play it safe and try to survive. And it is not possible to have an open phone conversation with anyone because they all believe their calls are being monitored. I assume most of these people will regain their sanity if Russia prevails, but some of them seem to me like they will remain Nazis, repeating stupid slogans like ‘One nation, one language’ even though they grew up speaking Russian. It’s really surprising for me to see how human beings can be turned in to sheep when the government is in complete control and spews its propaganda every single day and does not allow any dissenting voices to be heard.
The Nazis in Ukraine, who are essentially ultra nationalists who have replaced the hate for Jews with hate for Russians (which they denigrated by calling them orcs), are in power in Ukraine. They surround Zelensky, hold key positions in the military, and I do not believe they will accept any peace negotiations that Zelensky might wish to engage in… they will kill him first.
So, in my view, the only solution is for Russia to capture Kiev, take control of the government, and use the television stations to let the people know that freedom will be returning to Ukraine and they have no reason to fear the Russian army. Of course, the Russian army will have to be large enough to cut off all supply lines and take Odessa, while holding off the remaining Ukrainian forces until they run out of ammunition and then surrender.
If this is going to happen, it will be in January. I am simply hoping that the Russian mobilization has been quietly continuing so that instead of adding 300,000 new personnel, it’s closer to 500,000. If so, I believe they could send a tank force due west just north of Zaporizhia in January, and possibly send 75,000 troops from Belarus to cut off Lvov supply lines.

Posted by: OdessaConnected | Nov 21 2022 4:56 utc | 187

@ bevin 173
All that stuff that happened to us in Afghanistan.
Eventually you become your enemies.
That is either because the things you hate about your enemies are projections of what you hate about yourselves, or, ‘ The sins of the fathers are visited upon the sons. By Whom?
Using you to mean one.
The West became the 24/7 spying totalitarian state that the Soviets were once famous for being. Now the US is boasting about its terrorist achievements.
Afghanistan is the only country in the world with zero tolerance of Americans.
Russia is with Afghanistan.
Let them try.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 21 2022 5:05 utc | 189

Fran | Nov 21 2022 4:49 utc | 185
Not above ground, no

Posted by: Dani | Nov 21 2022 5:13 utc | 191

Funny how people comment without detail. UK lacks gas storage capacity thanks to Governments 1997-2015 who blocked construction. N Sea Gas is piped to Belgium storage in Summer and bought spot by UK in winter.
There is an Interconnector between France and UK currently under repair. It uses the 1 hour time difference between UK and France to wheel peak power loads between countries. It is load-balancing
N Ireland gets its electricity from Irish Republic
Traditionally UK power sets were on Yorkshire Coalfields and wheeled power south but Thatcher started move towards gas sets in south which are costly to run but cheap to build
That is why UK is gas dependent to punish Miners strikes. LNG supply is mainly from Qatar followed by US
UK Grid is not as reliable as under CEGB because it lacks redundancy
Nuclear sets are old and contracts with government ensure huge revenue streams to Treasury due to overpriced electricity. Not just utilities making excess profit – as in Germany it is government too
Energy Prices are where Greens want them
Energy pricing is boosting Government revenues by using utilities as tax collectors. High energy prices reduce need for higher interest rates or taxes on incomes and cut consumption on imports

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Nov 21 2022 5:43 utc | 193

All that’s showing on cdnpoli is a video purportedly of Russian soldiers who refused to fight being arrested. On camera. 🙄 … Ya think?

Posted by: Laurence | Nov 21 2022 6:20 utc | 195

@ Melaleuca | Nov 21 2022 5:59 utc | 194
The executed, surrendered POWs are LPR/DNR. See ‘Red’ armbands for tactical ID. The Ukies loathe the separatists even more than the so-called mongoloid RF orcs.
A contributing reason the LPR/DNR, given their modest numbers, is so effective in combat, is they know they are unlikely to receive any quarter.
It is as Sun Tzu would likely describe … unwise & ultimately a costly act for AFU.
You enrage & still the heart & harden the determination & grit of your enemies, yet especially for LPR/DNR ALL ground, everywhere, … is Deadly. Therefore will sell themselves at the the highest possible price everywhere, regardless. An unwise, costly & ultimately self-defeating strategy for AFU, in purely military strategy terms.
Peace

Posted by: Outraged | Nov 21 2022 6:47 utc | 197

Newsweek : ” If Zelensky comes out in the future and says, ‘Russian weapons hit a school house or hit another civilian facility’—that could be questioned now”😁
“Ukraine has a very aggressive, forward leaning, social media driven communication style,” which is very effective.
” But there are flaws and problems with it and it’s a bit odd that Zelensky won’t backtrack in this case,” an expert told Newsweek, referring to the missile explosion that killed two people. “I think that there is sometimes a frustration with questions of accuracy coming from Kyiv about the war.”
“I don’t think Zelensky’s image would ever be impacted from this, however, I think his credibility would be hurt,” If he comes out in the future and said, ‘Russian weapons hit a school house or hit another civilian facility’—that could be questioned now,” said Dennis Fritz, retired U.S. Air Force Command Chief Master Sergeant.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/21422

Posted by: Down South | Nov 21 2022 6:48 utc | 199