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MintPress News @MintPressNews The Pentagon has confirmed that active-duty US military personnel have been deployed to Ukraine. True?
Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Nov 2 2022 13:27 utc | 1
MintPress News @MintPressNews The Pentagon has confirmed that active-duty US military personnel have been deployed to Ukraine. True?
Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Nov 2 2022 13:29 utc | 2
https://thedreizinreport.com/2022/10/30/2023-will-be-2020/
Apropos Gabbard:
I remember when Barack Hussein Obama came to India some years ago, while he was still the Nobble Piece Prizident, the highly prestigious St Xavier’s College in Mumbai arranged a question and answer session with its students for him. All the students were first vetted for their and their parents’ political opinions and attitudes, and only those that could be absolutely guaranteed to not ask Obama any embarrassing questions in any way (like “why are you droning children?”) were permitted to attend the question and answer session.
Also, I have been saying at least since June that NATO will inevitably commit a nuclear false flag attack on Ukranazistan to manufacture a pretext for open intervention. When I said so on Moon Of Alabama the towering geniuses on this site’s comment forum excoriated me as a “troll” and “idiot” (as they did also when I said, purely from analysing events, that Russia has no standing professional army, just a core of conscripts and officers, depending entirely on a neoliberal model of ultra short term contract forces to do the fighting, something later confirmed by other sources). These people are always eager to shut their minds to unwelcome ideas.
Yes, NATO is going to get into the Ukranazistan war, no matter how and no matter what the consequences. They’ve invested too much to back off now.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 2 2022 13:32 utc | 3
https://thedreizinreport.com/2022/10/30/2023-will-be-2020/
Apropos Gabbard:
I remember when Barack Hussein Obama came to India some years ago, while he was still the Nobble Piece Prizident, the highly prestigious St Xavier’s College in Mumbai arranged a question and answer session with its students for him. All the students were first vetted for their and their parents’ political opinions and attitudes, and only those that could be absolutely guaranteed to not ask Obama any embarrassing questions in any way (like “why are you droning children?”) were permitted to attend the question and answer session.
Also, I have been saying at least since June that NATO will inevitably commit a nuclear false flag attack on Ukranazistan to manufacture a pretext for open intervention. When I said so on Moon Of Alabama the towering geniuses on this site’s comment forum excoriated me as a “troll” and “idiot” (as they did also when I said, purely from analysing events, that Russia has no standing professional army, just a core of conscripts and officers, depending entirely on a neoliberal model of ultra short term contract forces to do the fighting, something later confirmed by other sources). These people are always eager to shut their minds to unwelcome ideas.
Yes, NATO is going to get into the Ukranazistan war, no matter how and no matter what the consequences. They’ve invested too much to back off now.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 2 2022 13:33 utc | 4
JUST SEEN G.M.T 13:30 HOURS Six Reasons Why Americans Should Care That US Troops Are In Ukraine Andrew Korybko 2 November 2022
This is a big deal for more than just the obvious reason that it could push that de-clining unipolar hegemon closer to a hot war with Russia by miscalculation.
An unnamed senior military official revealed during a press briefing on Monday that US boots are on the ground in Ukraine as part of the Pentagon’s efforts to inspect and track weapons shipments to that crumbling former Soviet Republic according to a transcript published by the Department of Defense
Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Nov 2 2022 13:36 utc | 5
https://thedreizinreport.com/2022/10/30/2023-will-be-2020/
Apropos Gabbard:
I remember when Barack Hussein Obama came to India some years ago, while he was still the Nobble Piece Prizident, the highly prestigious St Xavier’s College in Mumbai arranged a question and answer session with its students for him. All the students were first vetted for their and their parents’ political opinions and attitudes, and only those that could be absolutely guaranteed to not ask Obama any embarrassing questions in any way (like “why are you droning children?”) were permitted to attend the question and answer session.
Also, I have been saying at least since June that NATO will inevitably commit a nuclear false flag attack on Ukranazistan to manufacture a pretext for open intervention. When I said so on Moon Of Alabama the towering geniuses on this site’s comment forum excoriated me as a “troll” and “idiot” (as they did also when I said, purely from analysing events, that Russia has no standing professional army, just a core of conscripts and officers, depending entirely on a neoliberal model of ultra short term contract forces to do the fighting, something later confirmed by other sources). These people are always eager to shut their minds to unwelcome ideas.
Yes, NATO is going to get into the Ukranazistan war, no matter how and no matter what the consequences. They’ve invested too much to back off now.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 2 2022 13:37 utc | 6
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zqeCoNnQ8PQ
Interesting YT channel I found.
Posted by: t | Nov 2 2022 13:37 utc | 7
An amazing amount of weaponry made it’s way to Ukraine from the USA….
https://t.me/swodki/185416
The United States has already delivered 202 artillery systems to Ukraine since the end of February 2022, according to Pentagon data.
Kyiv also received more than a million artillery shells, 6.3 thousand portable missile systems to fight armored targets, 1.4 thousand portable anti-aircraft missile systems, 15 helicopters, 46 radars, 10.2 thousand assault rifles and pistols, about 68.2 million rounds of ammunition. for small arms and 26 patrol boats.
For this purpose, heavy transport aircraft (both military and chartered by the Pentagon) made 845 flights to Europe. 47 ships, 114 trains and 3.4 thousand trailers were also involved. In total, more than 84,000 tons of weapons and military equipment have been delivered to Ukraine.
No wonder the cupboard(s) are bare…..
INDY
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 2 2022 13:37 utc | 8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zqeCoNnQ8PQ
Interesting YT channel I found.
Posted by: t | Nov 2 2022 13:37 utc | 9
The Armed Forces of Ukraine cancelled the attack on Kherson due to problems with artillery. Details:
According to the Military Chronicle, the operational command “South” postponed indefinitely the offensive scheduled for the end of October in the area of Kirov and Pravdin, on the border of the Kherson and Nikolaev regions, due to a shortage of 155 mm caliber guns.
In this area, to suppress the defense of the RF Armed Forces, Ukrainian troops planned to actively use German self-propelled guns PzH-2000 and AN / TPQ-36 Firefinder radars.
However, the counter-battery fight of the RF Armed Forces and the high activity of Russian aviation led to the fact that 70% of the PzH-2000 self-propelled guns delivered near Kherson were disabled. Some were worn out by intensive use and sent for repair.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine have to compensate for the lack of modern guns in the Kherson region with guns from the Second World War. In n. Pribugskoye and Luparevo settlements (15 km from Pravdin and the line of combat), American towed M114 howitzers manufactured in 1942, transferred by Portugal.
In addition, the increased activity of Russian artillery in the Pravdinsky direction forced the Armed Forces of Ukraine to request additional self-propelled guns from NATO. However, the alliance cannot yet quickly supply modern weapons. Instead of disabled PzH-2000s, Italian self-propelled guns (OTO Melara M109L can be delivered to the Kherson direction, for which the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not yet have shells.
The appearance of two new 155 mm caliber gun systems may complicate the supply of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and exacerbate the shortage of 155 mm caliber ammunition, which the Military Chronicle reported earlier.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/18233
Posted by: Down South | Nov 2 2022 13:38 utc | 10
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zqeCoNnQ8PQ
Interesting YT channel I found.
Posted by: t | Nov 2 2022 13:39 utc | 11
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zqeCoNnQ8PQ
Interesting YT channel I found.
Posted by: t | Nov 2 2022 13:39 utc | 12
Nothing’s impossible these days but I don’t believe the “It’s done” story.
PM Truss might have been new and inexperienced but not that much. That’s just not how communications on such highly sensitive matters work. And given the tight timeline there’d have been officials around to tell her so.
And we don’t know that the pipeline attack was an American or UK backed project in the first place. It’s all surmise.
I do notice, however, that there’s a lot coming out of Moscow that emphasises UK involvement specifically in this war. That although the key players are Washington and Berlin and it’s the Poles and Romanians who seem to be providing the bulk of the manpower being fed into Ukraine.
Why this emphasis therefore on UK involvement?
The invaluable Mercouris reminds us that six years ago President Obama was pointing out that the Russians had “Escalatory Dominance” in Ukraine. That is, whatever we in the West throw at Russia in Ukraine Russia can throw more back.
That’s what we’re seeing as the war loses its proxy character and becomes more of a straight NATO/Russia conflict. There’s no way the West is going to win this war, but plenty of ways it can escalate it before the inevitable defeat.
So far Russia has responded to Western escalation by intensifying its operations within Ukraine. Within Ukraine, the men and equipment fed in by the West are fair game but one doesn’t see any signs of direct and overt action against Western assets outside Ukraine. The Russians are taking the punches but not punching back except within the battleground itself.
If it gets to the level where the Russians do punch back outside the country – maybe downing Western surveillance assets assisting the Kiev forces, or hitting Western arms supplies before they’re fed in – then the obvious way to start punching back is not by directly challenging Washington. It’s to punch back at one of the minor players.
That’s been a worry since HMS Defender was sent into the waters near Crimea to stir things up a bit. Use one of the minor players for provocation – and if it all went too far at least it wouldn’t be a direct and risky clash between the Russians and the Americans.
So here. The Americans aren’t going to go nuclear if one of the minor players gets hit. Or, in practical terms, they’re not going to risk getting Chicago fried just because Rivet Joint is put out of action.
So I think the emphasis we’re seeing in Moscow on UK involvement in the war is maybe a warning to Washington. Escalate too far and we’ll start taking out the minor players.
Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 2 2022 13:39 utc | 13
The Armed Forces of Ukraine canceled the attack on Kherson due to problems with artillery. Details
According to the Military Chronicle, Operational Command “South” postponed for an indefinite period the offensive planned for the end of October in the area of Kirov and Pravdin, on the border of the Kherson and Nikolaev regions, due to a shortage of 155 mm caliber guns.
In this area, to suppress the defense of the RF Armed Forces, Ukrainian troops planned to actively use German self-propelled guns PzH-2000 and AN / TPQ-36 Firefinder radars.
However, the counter-battery fight of the RF Armed Forces and the high activity of Russian aviation led to the fact that 70% of the PzH-2000 self-propelled guns delivered near Kherson were disabled. Some were worn out by intensive use and sent for repair.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine have to compensate for the lack of modern guns in the Kherson region with the guns of the Second World War. In n. Pribugskoye and Luparevo settlements (15 km from Pravdin and the line of combat) are deployed American towed M114 howitzers manufactured in 1942, transferred by Portugal.
In addition, the increased activity of Russian artillery in the Pravdinsky direction forced the Armed Forces of Ukraine to request additional self-propelled guns from NATO. However, the alliance cannot yet quickly supply modern weapons. Instead of disabled PzH-2000s, Italian self-propelled guns OTO Melara M109L can be delivered to the Kherson direction, for which the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not yet have shells.
The emergence of two new 155 mm gun systems may complicate the supply of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and aggravate the shortageammunition of 155 mm caliber, which the Military Chronicle reported earlier.
military chronicle
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⚡️🇬🇧Reports of the militia of Novorossiya ZOV (DNR, LNR, Ukraine, War)
Artillery chaos. The Ukrainian army is confused in calibers The
United States announced the supply of 105 mm caliber shells to Ukraine. Thus, it will be the ninth caliber in the ammunition system of the Ukrainian army. Prior to this, the APU used installations of eight calibers: …
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 2 2022 13:41 utc | 14
Nothing’s impossible these days but I don’t believe the “It’s done” story.
PM Truss might have been new and inexperienced but not that much. That’s just not how communications on such highly sensitive matters work. And given the tight timeline there’d have been officials around to tell her so.
And we don’t know that the pipeline attack was an American or UK backed project in the first place. It’s all surmise.
I do notice, however, that there’s a lot coming out of Moscow that emphasises UK involvement specifically in this war. That although the key players are Washington and Berlin and it’s the Poles and Romanians who seem to be providing the bulk of the manpower being fed into Ukraine.
Why this emphasis therefore on UK involvement?
The invaluable Mercouris reminds us that six years ago President Obama was pointing out that the Russians had “Escalatory Dominance” in Ukraine. That is, whatever we in the West throw at Russia in Ukraine Russia can throw more back.
That’s what we’re seeing as the war loses its proxy character and becomes more of a straight NATO/Russia conflict. There’s no way the West is going to win this war, but plenty of ways it can escalate it before the inevitable defeat.
So far Russia has responded to Western escalation by intensifying its operations within Ukraine. Within Ukraine, the men and equipment fed in by the West are fair game but one doesn’t see any signs of direct and overt action against Western assets outside Ukraine. The Russians are taking the punches but not punching back except within the battleground itself.
If it gets to the level where the Russians do punch back outside the country – maybe downing Western surveillance assets assisting the Kiev forces, or hitting Western arms supplies before they’re fed in – then the obvious way to start punching back is not by directly challenging Washington. It’s to punch back at one of the minor players.
That’s been a worry since HMS Defender was sent into the waters near Crimea to stir things up a bit. Use one of the minor players for provocation – and if it all went too far at least it wouldn’t be a direct and risky clash between the Russians and the Americans.
So here. The Americans aren’t going to go nuclear if one of the minor players gets hit. Or, in practical terms, they’re not going to risk getting Chicago fried just because Rivet Joint is put out of action.
So I think the emphasis we’re seeing in Moscow on UK involvement in the war is maybe a warning to Washington. Escalate too far and we’ll start taking out the minor players.
Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 2 2022 13:41 utc | 15
The war in Ukraine clearly has entered a new phase, with Ukraine failing to press its offensive and Russia solidifying its lines of defense and launching counter attacks that are pushing Ukraine out of key strategic areas in Donetsk.
It appears that the combination of the murder of Darya Dugina, the sabotage of the Nordstream pipelines, the bombing of the Kerch bridge and the spoiled drone attack on Russia’s Black Sea Fleet in Sevastapol convinced the Russians to step up its military strikes to destroy critical electrical and energy infrastructure that they had previously left intact.
Yet, even while achieving success in systematically turning off the lights and heat throughout Ukraine, Russia is focusing on destroying transformers and key transmission installations rather than blow up nuclear, thermal and water power plants. If those sites are still intact, Russia will face an easier reconstruction task once Ukraine is defeated. It is easier to install new transformers and power lines than it is to build a new nuclear reactor. Right?
https://sonar21.com/why-didnt-russia-do-this-sooner/
Posted by: Down South | Nov 2 2022 13:44 utc | 16
Nothing’s impossible these days but I don’t believe the “It’s done” story.
PM Truss might have been new and inexperienced but not that much. That’s just not how communications on such highly sensitive matters work. And given the tight timeline there’d have been officials around to tell her so.
And we don’t know that the pipeline attack was an American or UK backed project in the first place. It’s all surmise.
I do notice, however, that there’s a lot coming out of Moscow that emphasises UK involvement specifically in this war. That although the key players are Washington and Berlin and it’s the Poles and Romanians who seem to be providing the bulk of the manpower being fed into Ukraine.
Why this emphasis therefore on UK involvement?
The invaluable Mercouris reminds us that six years ago President Obama was pointing out that the Russians had “Escalatory Dominance” in Ukraine. That is, whatever we in the West throw at Russia in Ukraine Russia can throw more back.
That’s what we’re seeing as the war loses its proxy character and becomes more of a straight NATO/Russia conflict. There’s no way the West is going to win this war, but plenty of ways it can escalate it before the inevitable defeat.
So far Russia has responded to Western escalation by intensifying its operations within Ukraine. Within Ukraine, the men and equipment fed in by the West are fair game but one doesn’t see any signs of direct and overt action against Western assets outside Ukraine. The Russians are taking the punches but not punching back except within the battleground itself.
If it gets to the level where the Russians do punch back outside the country – maybe downing Western surveillance assets assisting the Kiev forces, or hitting Western arms supplies before they’re fed in – then the obvious way to start punching back is not by directly challenging Washington. It’s to punch back at one of the minor players.
That’s been a worry since HMS Defender was sent into the waters near Crimea to stir things up a bit. Use one of the minor players for provocation – and if it all went too far at least it wouldn’t be a direct and risky clash between the Russians and the Americans.
So here. The Americans aren’t going to go nuclear if one of the minor players gets hit. Or, in practical terms, they’re not going to risk getting Chicago fried just because Rivet Joint is put out of action.
So I think the emphasis we’re seeing in Moscow on UK involvement in the war is maybe a warning to Washington. Escalate too far and we’ll start taking out the minor players.
Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 2 2022 13:45 utc | 17
Geraint@5…with a heavy war fog all along the front line, accidents are bound to happen. It’s good for the Ukraine though, with US guards stationed at the ‘inspection sites’ Russia will not dare to blow up the latest delivery of HIMARS.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 2 2022 13:45 utc | 18
Geraint@5…with a heavy war fog all along the front line, accidents are bound to happen. It’s good for the Ukraine though, with US guards stationed at the ‘inspection sites’ Russia will not dare to blow up the latest delivery of HIMARS.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 2 2022 13:50 utc | 20
⚡️Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine
(2 November 2022)
Part I (See Part II (https://t.me/mod_russia_en/4833))
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.
◽️In Kupyansk direction, the enemy, with two battalions, reinforced by foreign mercenaries, made an attempt to attack in the direction of Yagodnoye, Nikolayevka, Orlyanka of the Kharkov region and Kuzemovka (Lugansk People’s Republic).
The enemy was driven back to initial positions by fire and actions of Russian troops. Up to 150 Ukrainian personnel and mercenaries, six tanks, five infantry fighting vehicles, and 10 vehicles were eliminated.
◽️In Krasny Liman direction, Russian troops employed long-range artillery, ground attack and army aircraft to fire on the enemy at distant approaches. Attempts by the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) to attack in the direction of Makeyevka, Ploshchanka, and Chervonopopovka (Lugansk People’s Republic) were foiled. As a result, about 250 Ukrainian personnel were neutralised, as well as two tanks, two infantry fighting vehicles, five pickup trucks, and two motor vehicles.
◽️In Nikolayev–Krivoy Rog direction, the Russian troops impeded the AFU’s attempts to break through in the directions of Ishchenka, Bruskinskoe, Sukhanovo, and Pyatikhatki (Kherson region). The enemy has been driven back to initial positions by fire and decisive actions of Russian troops. There were 105 Ukrainian servicemen neutralised, two tanks, nine armoured combat vehicles, and seven motor vehicles destroyed.
💥 The Ukrainian radar station for guidance and target designation of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system was also destroyed.
💥 Operational-Tactical and Army Aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery have neutralised the command post of the 15th regiment of the National Guard of Ukraine in the area of Kirovsk of the Donetsk People’s Republic, as well as 73 artillery units in firing positions, manpower and military equipment in 169 areas.
💥 During the counter-battery fight, a platoon of Uragan MLRS of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was eliminated in the area of Malye Prokhody (Kharkov region).
💥 An ammunition depot near the village of Yelizavetovka (Donetsk People’s Republic) was also destroyed, as was an oil terminal for Ukrainian military equipment near the village of Smela (Cherkasy region).
💥 Fighter aviation has shot down one MiG-29 helicopter of Ukrainian Air Force near Paseka (Kharkov region).
⚡️Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine
(2 November 2022)
Part II (See Part I (https://t.me/mod_russia_en/4832))
💥 Over the past day, 12 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles were shot down by air defence systems in the settlements of Snigirevka, Nikolayev region, Ishchenka, Verovka, and Obryvka, (Kherson region), Oborotnovka and Viktorovka, (Lugansk People’s Republic), Orlyanka, Vladimirovka, and Grakovo (Kharkov region), and Polnoye (Donetsk People’s Republic).
💥 During the day, 24 projectiles were shot down in the air, including 14 HIMARS rockets in the areas of Antonovka and Novaya Kakhovka (Kherson region) as well as 10 Olkha and Uragan rockets in the areas of Makeyevka (Donetsk People’s Republic) and Chernobayevka (Kherson region).
In addition, 2 American HARM anti-radiation missiles were eliminated near Antonovka (Kherson region).
📊 In total, 330 airplanes and 167 helicopters, 2,414 unmanned aerial vehicles, 384 air defence missile systems, 6,270 tanks and other armoured combat vehicles, 881 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 3,544 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 6,967 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.
⚠️ Kiev regime continues its provocations aimed at creating a possible technological disaster at the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant.
◽️ During the day, artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have fired nine shells at the industrial zone of the thermal power plant of the city of Energodar and the territory adjacent to the nuclear power plant.
◽️ The shooting was carried out from the Ukrainian-controlled areas of the settlements of Marganets and Chervonogrigorovka, Dnepropetrovsk region.
💥 The hostile firepower has been neutralised by Russian artillery’s counter-attack.
◽️ The radiation environment at the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant remains normal.
Posted by: Summary | Nov 2 2022 13:51 utc | 22
Geraint@5…with a heavy war fog all along the front line, accidents are bound to happen. It’s good for the Ukraine though, with US guards stationed at the ‘inspection sites’ Russia will not dare to blow up the latest delivery of HIMARS.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 2 2022 13:51 utc | 23
Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Nov 2 2022 13:29 utc | 2
About halfway to the press briefing. To your question, yes and no. Yes, they are roaming in Ukraine, no, “they are not in the harms way, nor in the front lines.” Whatever that means. With the delivered weapons from US sold into global black markets, US is bound to be anxious to control weapon deliveries to the “democratic” Ukrainians.
https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/3206756/pentagon-press-secretary-air-force-brig-gen-pat-ryder-holds-an-on-camera-press/
Pentagon Press Secretary Air Force Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder Holds an On-Camera Press Briefing
Nov. 1, 2022
Brigadier General Pat Ryder, Pentagon Press Secretary
……Q: — if I can just follow up on that, can you clarify are these — are there U.S. troops, like U.S. Marines, security forces protecting the embassy personnel who is doing the inspections?
GEN. RYDER: We have U.S. Marines at the embassy doing normal U.S. Marine-type guard duties. But my understanding is that, to your point, these are not combat squads that are going out. These are personnel that are going out in areas where they’re not going to be in harm’s way to conduct these types of inspections.
Again, to put this into context, if you’ve got capabilities that are at a logistics node being tracked before they go into country, then when they come into country and they’re delivered to the Ukrainians and then they are at their own logistic nodes tracking those and then dispersed out to the front lines. Our folks are not going to be on the front lines.
Q: Right, but are there Marine security guards going with the embassy teams that are conducting these inspections?
GEN. RYDER: To my knowledge, no. But, we’ll check on that and come back to you. Jim?……
Posted by: KitaySupporter | Nov 2 2022 13:53 utc | 24
⚡️Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine
(2 November 2022)
Part I (See Part II (https://t.me/mod_russia_en/4833))
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.
◽️In Kupyansk direction, the enemy, with two battalions, reinforced by foreign mercenaries, made an attempt to attack in the direction of Yagodnoye, Nikolayevka, Orlyanka of the Kharkov region and Kuzemovka (Lugansk People’s Republic).
The enemy was driven back to initial positions by fire and actions of Russian troops. Up to 150 Ukrainian personnel and mercenaries, six tanks, five infantry fighting vehicles, and 10 vehicles were eliminated.
◽️In Krasny Liman direction, Russian troops employed long-range artillery, ground attack and army aircraft to fire on the enemy at distant approaches. Attempts by the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) to attack in the direction of Makeyevka, Ploshchanka, and Chervonopopovka (Lugansk People’s Republic) were foiled. As a result, about 250 Ukrainian personnel were neutralised, as well as two tanks, two infantry fighting vehicles, five pickup trucks, and two motor vehicles.
◽️In Nikolayev–Krivoy Rog direction, the Russian troops impeded the AFU’s attempts to break through in the directions of Ishchenka, Bruskinskoe, Sukhanovo, and Pyatikhatki (Kherson region). The enemy has been driven back to initial positions by fire and decisive actions of Russian troops. There were 105 Ukrainian servicemen neutralised, two tanks, nine armoured combat vehicles, and seven motor vehicles destroyed.
💥 The Ukrainian radar station for guidance and target designation of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system was also destroyed.
💥 Operational-Tactical and Army Aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery have neutralised the command post of the 15th regiment of the National Guard of Ukraine in the area of Kirovsk of the Donetsk People’s Republic, as well as 73 artillery units in firing positions, manpower and military equipment in 169 areas.
💥 During the counter-battery fight, a platoon of Uragan MLRS of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was eliminated in the area of Malye Prokhody (Kharkov region).
💥 An ammunition depot near the village of Yelizavetovka (Donetsk People’s Republic) was also destroyed, as was an oil terminal for Ukrainian military equipment near the village of Smela (Cherkasy region).
💥 Fighter aviation has shot down one MiG-29 helicopter of Ukrainian Air Force near Paseka (Kharkov region).
⚡️Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine
(2 November 2022)
Part II (See Part I (https://t.me/mod_russia_en/4832))
💥 Over the past day, 12 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles were shot down by air defence systems in the settlements of Snigirevka, Nikolayev region, Ishchenka, Verovka, and Obryvka, (Kherson region), Oborotnovka and Viktorovka, (Lugansk People’s Republic), Orlyanka, Vladimirovka, and Grakovo (Kharkov region), and Polnoye (Donetsk People’s Republic).
💥 During the day, 24 projectiles were shot down in the air, including 14 HIMARS rockets in the areas of Antonovka and Novaya Kakhovka (Kherson region) as well as 10 Olkha and Uragan rockets in the areas of Makeyevka (Donetsk People’s Republic) and Chernobayevka (Kherson region).
In addition, 2 American HARM anti-radiation missiles were eliminated near Antonovka (Kherson region).
📊 In total, 330 airplanes and 167 helicopters, 2,414 unmanned aerial vehicles, 384 air defence missile systems, 6,270 tanks and other armoured combat vehicles, 881 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 3,544 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 6,967 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.
⚠️ Kiev regime continues its provocations aimed at creating a possible technological disaster at the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant.
◽️ During the day, artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have fired nine shells at the industrial zone of the thermal power plant of the city of Energodar and the territory adjacent to the nuclear power plant.
◽️ The shooting was carried out from the Ukrainian-controlled areas of the settlements of Marganets and Chervonogrigorovka, Dnepropetrovsk region.
💥 The hostile firepower has been neutralised by Russian artillery’s counter-attack.
◽️ The radiation environment at the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant remains normal.
Posted by: Summary | Nov 2 2022 13:54 utc | 25
Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Nov 2 2022 13:29 utc | 2
About halfway to the press briefing. To your question, yes and no. Yes, they are roaming in Ukraine, no, “they are not in the harms way, nor in the front lines.” Whatever that means. With the delivered weapons from US sold into global black markets, US is bound to be anxious to control weapon deliveries to the “democratic” Ukrainians.
https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/3206756/pentagon-press-secretary-air-force-brig-gen-pat-ryder-holds-an-on-camera-press/
Pentagon Press Secretary Air Force Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder Holds an On-Camera Press Briefing
Nov. 1, 2022
Brigadier General Pat Ryder, Pentagon Press Secretary
……Q: — if I can just follow up on that, can you clarify are these — are there U.S. troops, like U.S. Marines, security forces protecting the embassy personnel who is doing the inspections?
GEN. RYDER: We have U.S. Marines at the embassy doing normal U.S. Marine-type guard duties. But my understanding is that, to your point, these are not combat squads that are going out. These are personnel that are going out in areas where they’re not going to be in harm’s way to conduct these types of inspections.
Again, to put this into context, if you’ve got capabilities that are at a logistics node being tracked before they go into country, then when they come into country and they’re delivered to the Ukrainians and then they are at their own logistic nodes tracking those and then dispersed out to the front lines. Our folks are not going to be on the front lines.
Q: Right, but are there Marine security guards going with the embassy teams that are conducting these inspections?
GEN. RYDER: To my knowledge, no. But, we’ll check on that and come back to you. Jim?……
Posted by: KitaySupporter | Nov 2 2022 13:55 utc | 26
Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Nov 2 2022 13:29 utc | 2
About halfway to the press briefing. To your question, yes and no. Yes, they are roaming in Ukraine, no, “they are not in the harms way, nor in the front lines.” Whatever that means. With the delivered weapons from US sold into global black markets, US is bound to be anxious to control weapon deliveries to the “democratic” Ukrainians.
https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/3206756/pentagon-press-secretary-air-force-brig-gen-pat-ryder-holds-an-on-camera-press/
Pentagon Press Secretary Air Force Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder Holds an On-Camera Press Briefing
Nov. 1, 2022
Brigadier General Pat Ryder, Pentagon Press Secretary
……Q: — if I can just follow up on that, can you clarify are these — are there U.S. troops, like U.S. Marines, security forces protecting the embassy personnel who is doing the inspections?
GEN. RYDER: We have U.S. Marines at the embassy doing normal U.S. Marine-type guard duties. But my understanding is that, to your point, these are not combat squads that are going out. These are personnel that are going out in areas where they’re not going to be in harm’s way to conduct these types of inspections.
Again, to put this into context, if you’ve got capabilities that are at a logistics node being tracked before they go into country, then when they come into country and they’re delivered to the Ukrainians and then they are at their own logistic nodes tracking those and then dispersed out to the front lines. Our folks are not going to be on the front lines.
Q: Right, but are there Marine security guards going with the embassy teams that are conducting these inspections?
GEN. RYDER: To my knowledge, no. But, we’ll check on that and come back to you. Jim?……
Posted by: KitaySupporter | Nov 2 2022 13:57 utc | 27
🇷🇺❗️Nord Stream AG has completed the initial data collection from the site of damage to the first string of the Nord Stream in Swedish waters, the company said.
Nord Stream AG discovered man-made craters on the seabed 3-5 meters deep, the section of the pipe between them was completely destroyed.
https://t.me/loordofwar/57585
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 2 2022 14:12 utc | 28
Is the updated software for MoA causing all the multiple posts?
Posted by: Perimetr | Nov 2 2022 14:15 utc | 29
The Armed Forces of Ukraine canceled the attack on Kherson due to problems with artillery. Details
According to the Military Chronicle, Operational Command “South” postponed for an indefinite period the offensive planned for the end of October in the area of Kirov and Pravdin, on the border of the Kherson and Nikolaev regions, due to a shortage of 155 mm caliber guns.
In this area, to suppress the defense of the RF Armed Forces, Ukrainian troops planned to actively use German self-propelled guns PzH-2000 and AN / TPQ-36 Firefinder radars.
However, the counter-battery fight of the RF Armed Forces and the high activity of Russian aviation led to the fact that 70% of the PzH-2000 self-propelled guns delivered near Kherson were disabled. Some were worn out by intensive use and sent for repair.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine have to compensate for the lack of modern guns in the Kherson region with the guns of the Second World War. In n. Pribugskoye and Luparevo settlements (15 km from Pravdin and the line of combat) are deployed American towed M114 howitzers manufactured in 1942, transferred by Portugal.
In addition, the increased activity of Russian artillery in the Pravdinsky direction forced the Armed Forces of Ukraine to request additional self-propelled guns from NATO. However, the alliance cannot yet quickly supply modern weapons. Instead of disabled PzH-2000s, Italian self-propelled guns OTO Melara M109L can be delivered to the Kherson direction, for which the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not yet have shells.
The emergence of two new 155 mm gun systems may complicate the supply of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and aggravate the shortageammunition of 155 mm caliber, which the Military Chronicle reported earlier.
military chronicle
Telegram
⚡️🇬🇧Reports of the militia of Novorossiya ZOV (DNR, LNR, Ukraine, War)
Artillery chaos. The Ukrainian army is confused in calibers The
United States announced the supply of 105 mm caliber shells to Ukraine. Thus, it will be the ninth caliber in the ammunition system of the Ukrainian army. Prior to this, the APU used installations of eight calibers: …
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 2 2022 14:19 utc | 31
The Armed Forces of Ukraine canceled the attack on Kherson due to problems with artillery. Details
According to the Military Chronicle, Operational Command “South” postponed for an indefinite period the offensive planned for the end of October in the area of Kirov and Pravdin, on the border of the Kherson and Nikolaev regions, due to a shortage of 155 mm caliber guns.
In this area, to suppress the defense of the RF Armed Forces, Ukrainian troops planned to actively use German self-propelled guns PzH-2000 and AN / TPQ-36 Firefinder radars.
However, the counter-battery fight of the RF Armed Forces and the high activity of Russian aviation led to the fact that 70% of the PzH-2000 self-propelled guns delivered near Kherson were disabled. Some were worn out by intensive use and sent for repair.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine have to compensate for the lack of modern guns in the Kherson region with the guns of the Second World War. In n. Pribugskoye and Luparevo settlements (15 km from Pravdin and the line of combat) are deployed American towed M114 howitzers manufactured in 1942, transferred by Portugal.
In addition, the increased activity of Russian artillery in the Pravdinsky direction forced the Armed Forces of Ukraine to request additional self-propelled guns from NATO. However, the alliance cannot yet quickly supply modern weapons. Instead of disabled PzH-2000s, Italian self-propelled guns OTO Melara M109L can be delivered to the Kherson direction, for which the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not yet have shells.
The emergence of two new 155 mm gun systems may complicate the supply of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and aggravate the shortageammunition of 155 mm caliber, which the Military Chronicle reported earlier.
military chronicle
Telegram
⚡️🇬🇧Reports of the militia of Novorossiya ZOV (DNR, LNR, Ukraine, War)
Artillery chaos. The Ukrainian army is confused in calibers The
United States announced the supply of 105 mm caliber shells to Ukraine. Thus, it will be the ninth caliber in the ammunition system of the Ukrainian army. Prior to this, the APU used installations of eight calibers: …
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Nov 2 2022 14:20 utc | 32
@English Outsider #13
The invaluable Mercouris…
Mercouris is ok but he has a silly pretense.
He was born in 1961 yet he constantly reminds his viewers that he appreciated and analyzed the world political situation in the 1960’s – when he was only a boy. This is an affectation to grant himself some sort of magisterial elder statesman status.
Posted by: Bob Sykes | Nov 2 2022 14:23 utc | 33
reply to 3
I think the evidence tends to suggest the opposite. With NATO cupboards empty and economic troubles accelerating, I think they lose interest – especially after elections show shifting opinions on Ukraine support. They gave up in Afghanistan, after all.
As for the Russian army not being professional. I think the example of WW2 Germany is suggestive. They had a small core of professionals and built out a large conscript army out of that. It worked until they were overcome by western logistics ( and the dumb idea of attacking Russia).
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 2 2022 14:24 utc | 34
@English Outsider #13
The invaluable Mercouris…
Mercouris is ok but he has a silly pretense.
He was born in 1961 yet he constantly reminds his viewers that he appreciated and analyzed the world political situation in the 1960’s – when he was only a boy. This is an affectation to grant himself some sort of magisterial elder statesman status.
Posted by: Bob Sykes | Nov 2 2022 14:25 utc | 35
@English Outsider #13
The invaluable Mercouris…
Mercouris is ok but he has a silly pretense. He was born in 1961 yet he constantly reminds his viewers that he appreciated and analyzed the world political situation in the 1960’s – when he was only a boy. This is an affectation to grant himself some sort of magisterial elder statesman status.
Posted by: passerby | Nov 2 2022 14:28 utc | 36
@sean the leprechaun | Nov 2 2022 13:45 utc | 18
with US guards stationed at the ‘inspection sites’ Russia will not dare to blow up the latest delivery of HIMARS.
Easily the most idiotic/laughable comment read so far today….
Posted by: ctiger | Nov 2 2022 14:32 utc | 37
Posted by: Bob Sykes | Nov 2 2022 14:23 utc | 33
I find “the gaggle” much more informative, Peter Lavelle and George Szamueli on youtube and mostly locals.com. They’re actually educated in the field they discuss. Lavelle actually made the duran what they are.
Posted by: t | Nov 2 2022 14:35 utc | 38
In my experience it can take up to 5 minutes from posting a comment until it shows. Apparently, there are still significant problems. Extra patience is required until the site gets back to normal.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 2 2022 14:45 utc | 40
🇷🇺🚀🛰Footage of the launch of Soyuz-2.1b with a military satellite on board from the Plesetsk cosmodrome
3rd military satellite launch in 1 month…..Preparing for the starting offensive phase it looks…
https://t.me/azmilitary11/27502
Posted by: Down South | Nov 2 2022 14:47 utc | 41
@passerby | Nov 2 2022 14:28 utc | 36
Mercouris is ok but he has a silly pretense. He was born in 1961 yet he constantly reminds his viewers that he appreciated and analyzed the world political situation in the 1960’s – when he was only a boy. This is an affectation to grant himself some sort of magisterial elder statesman status.
He experienced the military coup in Greece in 1967 and had to leave the country with his family. No need to talk him down.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 2 2022 14:50 utc | 42
Posted by: passerby | Nov 2 2022 14:28 utc | 36
Mercouris is ok but he has a silly pretense. He was born in 1961 yet he constantly reminds his viewers that he appreciated and analyzed the world political situation in the 1960’s – when he was only a boy. This is an affectation to grant himself some sort of magisterial elder statesman status.
His father was an elder statesman and in exile in the 1960s, so most likely the whole family was closely following the world political situation. I guess he also personally met some of the world leaders.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Nov 2 2022 14:50 utc | 43
They gave up in Afghanistan, after all.
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 2 2022 14:24 utc | 34
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I agree with you in general, but for different reasons. First, it’s important to differentiate between the US electorate and government.
People continue to mention the upcoming election as if it has any bearing or influence over official policy decisions. Once again it bears repeating that the democratic facade was erected for just this reason – to fool, pacify and assuage the sheep.
Now, as to why there won’t be a nuclear escalation, but rather a declining lack of interest and general wind down in Ukraine, we must consider who/what actually comprises the US government.
Suffice it to say that the people and organizations could just as easily thrive in Moscow, bejing and delhi. There is no intrinsic reason why their world must be destroyed simply to save new York city and other US shitholes.
So, my bet is that Ukraine goes to the back pages as the US/EU ramps up the media coverage of the ongoing economic collapse. This will be sufficient to distract everyone while capital is quietly withdrawn and deposited in the Pi sphere of influence.
Before we know it, the players are gone and it’s every man for himself as the “diverse” societies internally fight it out with perhaps weapons grade arms filtering back to make things interesting.
Posted by: B9k9 | Nov 2 2022 14:52 utc | 44
Posted by: passerby | Nov 2 2022 14:28 utc | 36 (& Bob Sykes @33?)
Mercouris is ok but he has a silly pretense. He was born in 1961 yet he constantly reminds his viewers that he appreciated and analyzed the world political situation in the 1960’s – when he was only a boy. This is an affectation to grant himself some sort of magisterial elder statesman status.
His father was an elder statesman and in exile in the 1960s, so most likely the whole family was closely following the world political situation. I guess he also personally met some of the world leaders.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Nov 2 2022 14:53 utc | 45
Trying to absorb all the information and sort the true from the false is difficult, but one thing nobody’s talking about. Let’s poke the elephant in the room.
Poland.
Who hates Russians more?
Who hates Germans more?
Who has a nice long border with Ukrostan?
Where does *elinsky trot off to when he wants to talk with somebody without getting bombed?
Who has said repeatedly (without denial) that it has all but merged with the western, formerly Polish provinces of Ukrostan?
Whose brand spanking new gas pipeline from Norway went operational mere hours after somebody (UK) destroyed three forths of Russia’s Nordstream capacity?
Whose docks have been working overtime handling men and materiel from the US, UK and others?
Which nationality now forms the largest immigrant population in the UK?
Which nation has Poland cozily been in bed with since 1939?
Who is clearly culpable for the seaborne drone attack on Sevastopol?
If none of the answers to these questions is obvious, then how many coincidences can be cited before a causal link is established?
Posted by: pasha | Nov 2 2022 15:04 utc | 46
@Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 2 2022 14:24 utc | 34
The most important observers of the Ukraine crisis are the non-West elites, looking to see if the US/West is declining further. Such things can get self-reinforcing very quickly and the Afghan retreat, including the sheer incompetence of it, certainly dealt the US a blow. Also, the West in general given how badly the US treated its allies. The inability to subjugate Iran and the failure in Iraq/Venezuela/Nicaragua (now with much greater Iranian influence than before the US invasion) already reduced the US stature/ability to scare with the non-West elites.
With Ukraine the West has really backed itself into a corner with its ignorant assumptions about the strength of Russia and the readiness of the non-West elites to support Russia or refuse to sanction it. With Europe in dire straits due to the sanctions and the Federal Reserve seemingly intent on “breaking something” to bring down inflation thins can only get worse. A successful Russian winter campaign will only increase the Russian prestige more and reduce that of the West. So logically the West should start to back down and negotiate.
Unfortunately, I don’t think that the Western elites can stomach the geopolitical loss of being shown to have lost in Ukraine and will therefore stay in their Ukrainian strategy for much longer than is warranted. In addition, the Western elites invested a lot to gain control of the Ukrainian black soil and its other resources, together with a “Haitinized” workforce. There are also a lot of smoking guns in Ukraine pointing to US bio-labs and extensive involvement of the Western political elites in Ukrainian corruption. In addition, they did leave Afghanistan, but only after 20 years of failure!
I would not be surprised to see this dragged on until the winter of 2023/2024 when Europe will be faced with a much bigger disaster given a probable colder winter (El Nino after 3 years of La Nina) and lower gas storage levels (no Russian gas at all in 2023). Then there may be severe problems within the Western elites, especially if the Fed successfully engineered a nasty US recession making things even worse for Europe. The loss to the West will be much greater than if they had pulled a “stop loss”, but this is how arrogant imperial elites tend to fail – underestimating their opponents and overestimating themselves and then unable to accept the realities that will crumble their view of themselves. How can the elite of the “indispensable nation” accept that they are just ordinary?
I’m tempted to go all R.S. Hack on you all and yell about the multiple posts and call you all morons. But, I’ll leave that to the expert. 😁. I suppose there is a software issue at fault. More to the point, I personally come here for our host’s posts and the wonderful commentary from the grizzled bar veterans. All these newsy reposts from other channels, I find to be a waste of time. If you gentlemen could restrain yourselves, please?
Posted by: Zed | Nov 2 2022 15:08 utc | 48
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 2 2022 14:50 utc | 42
When he was 6 years old? How many memories do you have as a 6yo? How would he even comprehend such a thing at that age?
Posted by: t | Nov 2 2022 15:14 utc | 49
From other Uk thread. Doesn’t post there.
I am worried the US is going to nuke Iran so they can save face and keep the rest of the world in line.
Posted by: OhhCanada | Nov 2 2022 0:29 utc | 103
OhhCanada, I wonder how much thought you put into this? To some this may sound like concern trolling. To others, a call for genocide. Yet to others, a wet dream.
A thermonuclear device over Tehran to kill how many? 4-5 million out of the total 9 million, and for what? As you say, face saving?
A nuke over Tehran is not enough. Once that’s done, a nuke over Isfahan, Shiraz, Qom, and Mashhad are a must.
Even a decapitated Iran has armed forces, friends, and proxies, to wreak havoc till the end of time.
A nuke over Iran IS the end of time. Someday you’ll get it. Perhaps you wish for it. RAPTURE?
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 2 2022 15:16 utc | 50
Nothing’s impossible these days but I don’t believe the “It’s done” story.
Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 2 2022 13:39 utc | 13
Count me among the skeptics. There were allegedly many US military assets in the area at the time, so why would Truss need to text Blinken. Unless there is a family feud between the Pentagon and State, which is not only possible, but likely. The Pentagon must get tired of cleaning up after failed diplomacy, which clearly Ukraine was.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Nov 2 2022 15:17 utc | 51
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Nov 2 2022 14:53 utc | 45
If we’re bringing up his personal history it’s just as relevant that he’s a disgraced Lawyer with no education in geopolitical fields… Just saying.
Posted by: t | Nov 2 2022 15:18 utc | 52
(I am reposting my comment from the last thread, as it was shredded by Typepad’s servers. Longer comments seem to get through today, but it may take up to 5 minutes to comments to appear.)
Note: I do not believe the “It’s done!” message existed. Russia is using the story as a rhetorical device to force Britain to either confess or deny, in either case making a fool of herself in the eyes of the world. Russian intelligence would never reveal their sources or methods. The “It’s done!” message is a substitute for the real evidence they may or may not have.
IT’S DONE! – Kim Dotcom solves Nord Stream mystery (not)
On October 30 Kim Dotcom speculated on Twitter
How do the Russians know that the UK blew up the North Stream pipelines in partnership with the US?
Because @trussliz used her iPhone to send a message to @SecBlinken saying “It’s done” a minute after the pipeline blew up and before anybody else knew?
iCloud admin access rocks!
Asia Markets reported on the tweet the same day:
‘IT’S DONE’: Did Liz Truss text Antony Blinken after Nord Stream attack?
Former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss sent a text message saying ‘it’s done’ to the US Secretary of State Antony Blinken immediately after the Nord Stream attack, according to a controversial online commentator.
Kim Dotcom, a self-proclaimed ‘Internet Freedom Fighter’, says the text message is the reason Russia believes the United Kingdom was involved in blowing up the gas pipeline.
“Liz Truss used her iPhone to send a message to Secretary Blinken saying ‘it’s done’ a minute after the pipeline blew up and before anybody else knew,” he told his nearly one million Twitter followers.
Dotcom, who was born Kim Schmitz in West Germany, suggested the data was obtained through an iCloud hack.
“It’s not just the Five Eyes that have backdoor admin access to all Big Tech databases,” he said.
“Russia and China have sophisticated cyber units too. The funny thing is Govt officials with top security clearance still prefer using iPhones over their NSA & GCHQ issued encrypted shit-phones.”
It’s is important to note that Kim Dotcom, who now resides in New Zealand, did not offer any form of factual evidence to back up his claim.
The tweet has now snowballed into an international incident. From Sputnik today:
Moscow Wants Answers Over Truss’ Alleged ‘It’s Done’ SMS to Blinken Moments After Nord Stream Blasts
Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova wants answers regarding the mysterious “It’s done” iPhone message allegedly sent by then-Prime Minister Liz Truss to the US secretary of state moments after the sabotage attacks against the Nord Stream network in late September.
“To be honest, I don’t care who got this information and how. I’m interested in London’s answer to the following question: Did Prime Minister Liz Truss of Britain send a message to US Secretary of State Antony Blinken immediately after the Nord Stream gas pipeline was blown up with the words ‘It’s done’?” Zakharova asked in a Telegram post Tuesday.
Now even the Daily Mail is reporting the story as almost confirmed.
I have collected sources on the tweet here. More on the Nord Stream attack here.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Nov 2 2022 15:23 utc | 53
Why are Anglo-Saxon elites so eager to start nuclear war?
What can they gain?
Posted by: marko | Nov 2 2022 15:27 utc | 54
Trying to absorb all the information and sort the true from the false is difficult, but one thing nobody’s talking about. Let’s poke the elephant in the room.
Poland.
Who hates Russians more?
Who hates Germans more?
Who has a nice long border with Ukrostan?
Where does *elinsky trot off to when he wants to talk with somebody without getting bombed?
Who has said repeatedly (without denial) that it has all but merged with the western, formerly Polish provinces of Ukrostan?
Whose brand spanking new gas pipeline from Norway went operational mere hours after somebody (UK) destroyed three forths of Russia’s Nordstream capacity?
Whose docks have been working overtime handling men and materiel from the US, UK and others?
Which nationality now forms the largest immigrant population in the UK?
Which nation has Poland cozily been in bed with since 1939?
Who is clearly culpable for the seaborne drone attack on Sevastopol?
If none of the answers to these questions is obvious, then how many coincidences can be cited before a causal link is established?
Posted by: pasha | Nov 2 2022 15:34 utc | 55
Nothing’s impossible these days but I don’t believe the “It’s done” story. …
Posted by: English Outsider | Nov 2 2022 13:45 utc | 17
It’s technically plausible but unevidenced and the timing of it going public is odd. If RF had long term access to Truss’s chat history why wait till now to bring up this incriminating message?
Posted by: anon2020 | Nov 2 2022 15:45 utc | 56
Elon Musk put on the Ukrainian assassination list same as Roger waters.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/elon-musk-alarmed-after-apparent-inclusion-well-known-ukrainian-kill-list/5797751
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 2 2022 15:52 utc | 57
typepad — it is still fucked up…. post once and even though your post doesn’t show up for what seems like about 5 minutes – don’t post it again!
———— people ought to read the michael hudson link b posted in the not ukraine thread.. it pertains directly to ukraine!
@ Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 2 2022 13:32 utc | 3
thanks for the story from india and your post… i am not sure why you think this of moa, but no one is perfect.. say your thing and leave it at that.. i don’t have the certainty that you do on NATO committing a nuclear false flag.. nor do i have the certainty that NATO is going to go all into ukraine… yes, it has been apparent to anyone since even before 2014 how NATO is gunning for what they now have here and yes – they are involved in a direct conflict with russia, even though they call it something else… so – i am with you on that, but not in the same way you are pitching it.. and – you might be proven right too on them going all in, so lets wait and see..
@ English Outsider | Nov 2 2022 13:39 utc | 13
that is an interesting rationale and conclusion you come to, but i don’t see it that way myself.. any attack from russia on any of these NATO stooges will open up this conflict in a whole other way… yes, the west plays dirty – sabotaging nordstream and the shipping lane and etc. etc. – but it will get to a whole other level of dirty when russia decides to hit any of these sycophants of NATO, including the top dog – usa… as for the uk… they have their hands all over this conflict… i go back to the role of finances and how the usa – uk are tied at the hip in many significant ways… uk does a lot of dirty work for the usa and i do believe russia has the goods and details on this.. no matter how much the bbc and etc want to brainwash brits into having novichok for brains, i think the uk is a very much responsible for a number of events including nordstream… only time will tell with the release of more details, or perhaps it never will become public..
—- i see italy is saying no more weapons to ukraine… not sure how that works for @ Down South | Nov 2 2022 13:38 utc | 10 – 2nd last paragraph from slavyngrad….
Posted by: james | Nov 2 2022 16:02 utc | 58
Russia does seem to have halted Ukraine’s advances. It is pretty dickish how the Western Press crows loudly about Ukraine’s every success and quietly fails to update us when things are not going so hot. I’ve noticed, however, that they tend to get to the bad news eventually, but at a couple week’s delay. Wall Street Journal, for example, certainly reported over the summer that Russia had turned the battle for Donbas into an artillery war to their massive advantage. Pretty sure NYT did too. Now, I had gotten the news almost month prior from using a wider range of sources, but the Western Press DOES get there.
And everyone knows about the story about Lis Truss sexting Llyod Austin, even if it’s being unreported in the mainstream media. We use Twitter.
Posted by: GoFast | Nov 2 2022 16:08 utc | 59
Come on people, elevate your thinking. Ukraine was about two things:
– going hog in an attempt to capture russias natural resources
– profiting from MIC money laundering
Imagine walking into a Vegas casino with the intention of breaking the bank. After that low probability play failed, you fall back to plan B which was to score a 10x bagger
Under no scenario did you contemplate stomping outside in a huff and blowing your brains out because you weren’t able to capture the casino. Rather you pocket your earnings and contemplate your next moves to take over the Strip
The people behind western governments and corporations have been at this game a very long time. They have no intrinsic allegiance to the places or people in which they presently reside
Commenters and readers here are pretty smart; it’s not difficult to see the next plays if you could cease being so distracted.
We know Russia won – they did months ago when the government was not collapsed. We know the financial elite have a long history of picking the next winners and making their travel plans accordingly.
We know western countries that have the undergone intentional sabotage aka diversity and enrichment, are poised for civil war. We know the coming economic collapse will provide the necessary framework.
We know the weapons sent to Ukraine, Afghanistan, et al will return to provide a more kinetic experience once the party is underway.
Question: how do you play it?
Posted by: B9k9 | Nov 2 2022 16:10 utc | 60
Maria Zakharova seems to imply that the same documents to be presented as ‘proof’ of UK involvement in NS and Black Sea Fleet attacks will be shared with the public after they will be presented in a meeting with the UK ambassador (from 2:30 approx):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gVs39nN8rQ&t=0s
I look forward to seeing what proof they allege they have. Are we to expect another “F the EU” moment with Liz Truss or Ben Wallace instead? that would be so sweet!
Some other thoughts on why the UK is being singled out, and not the US (or Poland?):
Perhaps the Brits were the only dumb ones to get caught.
Perhaps there is a bit of divide and conquer tactic, and the Russians are probing for a reaction.
Perhaps since Nato is the real enemy, why target the big guy when once can pick a fight with his smaller buddy instead?
I hope this doesn’t turn out to be another disappointment.
PS: i am hitting ‘post’ only once. Perhaps my VPN is causing a feedback loop or something. Apologies in advance if clones appear.
Posted by: Et Tu | Nov 2 2022 16:11 utc | 61
I see someone asking why the emphasis from Russia is to place the blame for the sabotage and the drone attack on the Black Sea fleet.
It could be part of a divide and conquer strategy.
The US cannot declare war without approval of Congress, and the attacks on the Nordstream pipelines, the Crimea bridge and the Black Sea fleet, were clearly acts of war.
To place the blame the US,would be to force Biden into Congress and seek a declaration of war, which he most likely would get in the current atmosphere.
To blame Britain however, gives the two main players more wriggle room, and don’t forget how Boris Johnson is being hung out to dry for his role in stopping the ceasefire negotiations earlier in the conflict, which has resulted in the needless loss of tens of thousands of lives since.
When news of the Truss Blinken text emerged, most people said, Yeah, they are that dumb.
The number of people who are now casting doubt on it, or downplaying it, without either of them denying it yet, seems a bit manufactured.
What it looks like is that Johnson is being set up as the scapegoat, while the US can turn around to Britain when Russia retaliates and say, your attack was not sanctioned by NATO, you’re on your own.
I don’t know if other have heard any if it, but there is already speculation that Russia hass preparing and is finalising it’s retaliation and retribution for the actions of the UK Forces.
Indeed they told Britain explicitly several months ago, when they gave details of the tidal wave that one of their underwater nuclear missiles could create.
Didn’t a Russian submarine go missing over the last few weeks.
Anyone seen it lately?
Posted by: Orchard1 | Nov 2 2022 16:11 utc | 62
Can y’all chill with the multiple posts.
Hit “post” ONCE and wait………
Some of you have the patience of a 10 year old on TicTok looking for likes/validation of your post.
I want to see my post now, Daddy!
Posted by: JoeDontSurf | Nov 2 2022 16:18 utc | 63
Per this news item on TASS, Russia has agreed to re-join the grain deal, from which they had pulled out following the attack on Sevastopol. The report does not seem to mention anything on whether anything was done to assuage Russia’s concerns related to the use of the grain corridor for the attack.
IMO, Russia could have successfully imposed tough conditions on, and extracted significant concessions/ undertakings from, all parties involved in the grain deal before agreeing to join back. Most of the grain was going to Europe, and it is not like the neediest countries are getting any.
Disappointed that Russia blew that chance, with the possibility that the terrorists will feel further encouraged to attempt more attacks like this on Crimea.
Posted by: ColdHarbour | Nov 2 2022 16:20 utc | 64
@meow | Nov 2 2022 16:08 utc | 64
11/11/22
Indeed, they like dates like that.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 2 2022 16:22 utc | 65
Per this news item on TASS, Russia has agreed to re-join the grain deal, from which they had pulled out following the attack on Sevastopol. The report does not mention whether anything was done to assuage Russia’s concerns related to the use of the grain corridor for the attack.
IMO, Russia could have successfully imposed tough conditions on, and extracted significant concessions/ undertakings from, all parties involved in the grain deal before agreeing to join back. Most of the grain was going to Europe, and it is not like the neediest countries are getting any.
Disappointed that Russia blew that chance, with the possibility that the terrorists will feel further encouraged to attempt more attacks like this on Crimea.
Posted by: ColdHarbour | Nov 2 2022 16:26 utc | 66
Posted by: t | Nov 2 2022 15:14 utc | 50
“When he was 6 years old? How many memories do you have as a 6yo? How would he even comprehend such a thing at that age?”
my first childhood memories – a trip through Budapest in December 1956 took me in a Pobed car for a polio vaccination. The driver deliberately drove the route to see the ruins of recent fights. I was 4 years old. I remember the paintings to this day.
A few years later, I was examined by a child psychologist because I insisted that I understood what was happening in Congo. (The psycologist didn’t understand, even as I explained to him) I don’t remember the photos. I remember names from newspapers: Lumumba, Mobutu, Kasa-Vubu, Tshombe.
Children remember things and have their own, sometimes strange passions.
(Translated from Polish by Google translator)
Posted by: tRI | Nov 2 2022 16:30 utc | 67
I see someone asking why the emphasis from Russia is to place the blame for the sabotage and the drone attack on the Black Sea fleet.
It could be part of a divide and conquer strategy.
The US cannot declare war without approval of Congress, and the attacks on the Nordstream pipelines, the Crimea bridge and the Black Sea fleet, were clearly acts of war.
To place the blame the US,would be to force Biden into Congress and seek a declaration of war, which he most likely would get in the current atmosphere.
To blame Britain however, gives the two main players more wriggle room, and don’t forget how Boris Johnson is being hung out to dry for his role in stopping the ceasefire negotiations earlier in the conflict, which has resulted in the needless loss of tens of thousands of lives since.
When news of the Truss Blinken text emerged, most people said, Yeah, they are that dumb.
The number of people who are now casting doubt on it, or downplaying it, without either of them denying it yet, seems a bit manufactured.
What it looks like is that Johnson is being set up as the scapegoat, while the US can turn around to Britain when Russia retaliates and say, your attack was not sanctioned by NATO, you’re on your own.
I don’t know if other have heard any if it, but there is already speculation that Russia hass preparing and is finalising it’s retaliation and retribution for the actions of the UK Forces.
Indeed they told Britain explicitly several months ago what such retaliationmight look like, when they gave details of the tidal wave that one of their underwater nuclear missiles could create.
Didn’t a Russian submarine go missing over the last few weeks.
Anyone seen it lately?
Posted by: Orchard1 | Nov 2 2022 16:31 utc | 68
Russia is going to have to “bust in the door” with this joint Belarus-Russian surprise offensive. If they can disrupt Ukrainian supply lines to Donbas – that’s the move to make.
People are talking about another surge for Kiev, but it seems to me that they should retake Kharkiv and try to go straight down the east side of the Dnieper, breaking up the supply lines and using the river as their right flank.
This risks locking them into a scenario where they can only take the Eastern half of Ukraine. But, I think that’s the move to make. If things go well, they can always try for Odessa viz the Kherson-Mykolaiv front.
I am feeling bad for all the Belarussian soldiers who are going to die in this stupid conflict. It’s really not their war.
Posted by: GoFast | Nov 2 2022 16:34 utc | 69
reply to 47
Of course, the Elite rule and common people mean little. They have and will try to keep Ukraine propped up as long as they can. However, parlimentary governments can gradually erode support for these things. The EU has plenty of experience in lying – to pretend to be equal to the US or on board with its aggressions. They did so with Khadaffi years ago. They pretend to obey sanctions while exploiting loopholes.
In the case of the US public, the Republicans are starting to drag their feet a bit. I suspect they may wish Ukraine to go away in favor of war with China. Anyhow, they can blame its collapse on the barely cognizant Biden. And they can delude themselves that they will drain Russia, after Ukr. defeat.
Posted by: Eighthman | Nov 2 2022 16:40 utc | 70
Zelensky said today that he looks forward to vacationing in Crimea. Is he preparing the ground for a lessening of their demands? A right to vacation in Russian Crimea seems totally negotiable.
Would Russia be willing to guarantee Zelensky safe vacay in Crimea, in exchange for territorial concessions?
Posted by: GoFast | Nov 2 2022 16:43 utc | 71
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/37529
The movement of civilian vehicles across the Dnieper was stopped due to the completion of the removal of residents from the right-bank part of the Kherson region – RIA Novosti with reference to the authorities.
The question is, what is about to happen? An offensive I guess.
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 2 2022 16:46 utc | 72
@ Biswapriya Purkayast | Nov 2 2022 13:33 utc | 4
When Obama first hit the stage, he seemed almost like MLK clone. It became apparent fairly soon, he was only a good reader of teleprompters. He lost his cool the minute thing got out of script.
Do you remember Dan Quayle? I read a warning somewhere he was put in office to test the public reaction, maybe in anticipation of Dubya?
And now they have Biden, and Kamala.
It looks an awful lot like those Old testament curses, that the house of Jacob brought upon themselves.
Posted by: Anne B | Nov 2 2022 17:04 utc | 73
Bob Sykes | Nov 2 2022 14:25 utc | 35
Facile point, Mr Sykes. One doesn’t need to have lived though something to subject it to detailed analysis. Mr Mercouris provides detailed analyses of many geo-political events and he doesn’t need to have been present at any of them.
Posted by: Vragtes | Nov 2 2022 17:09 utc | 74
—- i see italy is saying no more weapons to ukraine… not sure how that works for @ Down South | Nov 2 2022 13:38 utc | 10 – 2nd last paragraph from slavyngrad….
Posted by: james | Nov 2 2022 16:02 utc | 59
It’s just a temporary pause.
🇮🇹 🇺🇦 Italy has frozen the shipment of the sixth package of military aid to Kiev – Il Messaggero.
As reported government sources, the operation on military assistance to Ukraine has been put on pause because “first we need to coordinate with NATO and delve into the details of Ukraine’s military requests in detail.”
“Only then will we understand what Kiev needs and what weapons we can supply,” the Italian government said.
The newspaper reminds that NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg will soon visit Rome, during which he will meet with Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni and Defense Minister, Meloni’s closest ally Guido Crosetto.
Together with Stoltenberg, the Italian authorities will presumably compile a list of weapons for Ukraine, the newspaper writes.
https://t.me/azmilitary11/27459
Posted by: Down South | Nov 2 2022 17:30 utc | 75
Posted by: Orchard1 | Nov 2 2022 16:34 utc | 72
On the US Congress declaring war, I am 75 and the last time was before I was born, just look at the damage they can do without it.
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Nov 2 2022 17:42 utc | 76
Larry Johnson’s theory of a difference of opinion between the US and UK governments on what the empire’s strategic goal should be.
https://sonar21.com/why-didnt-russia-do-this-sooner/
I don’t buy it the way Johnson presents it. Rather I see it as the US egging on Britain to be the real manager (and where necessary, executant) of escalation and terrorism, in order to maintain a strategic and political space between itself and Britain.
If it really is true that “The president’s goals were clear from the very beginning. We don’t want conflict with Russia. It’s number one,” as Johnson quotes Kirby saying, then the purpose of having Britain serve as the acting belligerent is so that if the escalation does reach a point where Russia finds it necessary to launch a warning strike against a significant target outside the Ukraine (presumably using hypersonic missiles with powerful conventional warheads, if the hype about Russian weaponry is true), the US wants that strike to be against a British target, not a de jure US target. In that case the US thinks the escalation still could be contained without escalating further to full-scale war between NATO and Russia.
Whatever the British target is would be another proxy sacrifice the US offers up to its own program of unbridled aggression.
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Nov 2 2022 17:43 utc | 77
@Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Nov 2 2022 17:43 utc | 82
If true, the US is treating the UK like the latter used to use the ANZAC (Australia and New Zealand Army Corps), Canadian and Gurkha troops – the front end of the imperial spear that does the dirty work and where most of the losses are taken. Just look up Dieppe, Gallipoli, suppression of Indian independence movements etc.
Republicofscotland | Nov 2 2022 15:52 utc | 58
That’s two weeks old. Why are you posting it?
Posted by: sippy the shot glass | Nov 2 2022 18:14 utc | 79
Posted by: Zed | Nov 2 2022 15:08 utc | 48
“I’m tempted to go all R.S. Hack on you all and yell about the multiple posts and call you all morons. But, I’ll leave that to the expert. 😁.”
Thank you, I’m happy to oblige.
Once again for the fucking retarded, hit the post button ONCE and then WAIT – at least a minute if not five. Then refresh the page. I’ve seen it take up to FIVE MINUTES to accept a post. And if you keep posting multiple times, it only makes the situation worse, idiots.
And stop posting “test posts”. Say something useful, post it once, and then STFU.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Nov 2 2022 18:17 utc | 80
Posted by: Zed | Nov 2 2022 15:08 utc | 48
“I’m tempted to go all R.S. Hack on you all and yell about the multiple posts and call you all morons. But, I’ll leave that to the expert. 😁.”
Thank you, I’m happy to oblige.
Once again for the fucking retarded, hit the post button ONCE and then WAIT – at least a minute if not five. Then refresh the page. I’ve seen it take up to FIVE MINUTES to accept a post. And if you keep posting multiple times, it only makes the situation worse, idiots.
And stop posting “test posts”. Say something useful, post it once, and then STFU.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Nov 2 2022 18:21 utc | 81
Posted by: Zed | Nov 2 2022 15:08 utc | 48
“I’m tempted to go all R.S. Hack on you all and yell about the multiple posts and call you all morons. But, I’ll leave that to the expert. 😁.”
Thank you, I’m happy to oblige.
However, at the moment it appears the site is all but dead. I’ve tried posting a response several times now and I get the 503 Service Unavailable every time. The previews come up with no problem at all, but posting is all but impossible. I despise test posts, but let’s see if this gets through.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Nov 2 2022 18:24 utc | 82
It appears that we are being denied access to South Front. This website might be next?
Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Nov 2 2022 18:25 utc | 83
Richard Steven Hack | Nov 2 2022 18:24 utc | 89
The 503 is a false error. Those who receive it can assume their post has been made, but post-actions like logging to Langley failed.
Posted by: sippy the shot glass | Nov 2 2022 18:29 utc | 84
Maybe the intention is to start a colour revolution in the UK by the release of the NS and Blank Sea documents.
Just sayin.
Posted by: Jerr | Nov 2 2022 18:29 utc | 85
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Nov 2 2022 18:24 utc | 86, 87, 88,89
Kek!
Posted by: t | Nov 2 2022 18:29 utc | 86
WAIT FIVE MINUTES!
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Nov 2 2022 18:17 utc | 86
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Nov 2 2022 18:18 utc | 87
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Nov 2 2022 18:21 utc | 88
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Nov 2 2022 18:24 utc | 89
Once again for the fucking retarded, hit the post button ONCE and then WAIT – at least a minute if not five. Then refresh the page. I’ve seen it take up to FIVE MINUTES to accept a post. And if you keep posting multiple times, it only makes the situation worse, idiots.
Yes, exactly! (Or maybe better make it six.)
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Nov 2 2022 18:35 utc | 87
@Richard Steven Hack | Nov 2 2022 18:21 utc | 88
Once again for the fucking retarded
Thanks for the laugh!
Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 2 2022 18:38 utc | 88
I did wait five minutes. But I made the fatal assumption that once the 503 messages comes up and the page stops processing that the post wasn’t accepted.
So now we know the exact sequence of events.
Post once, get the 503, then assume your post went through. Check it in half an hour like I just did.
For the retarded…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Nov 2 2022 18:49 utc | 89
And that worked just fine.
As Gonzalo says at the end of his videos, “Know what’s going on.”
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Nov 2 2022 18:54 utc | 91
Since TypePad is no longer accepting new clients we can expect the quality of upgrades and support to decline. It is a well known phenomenon in the IT industry. My Blackberry is still operating, but officially off of support 😉
The TypePad Owners, Endurance International Group, want new sign-ups to use Bluehost.
Typepad is currently not accepting new signups.
…new customers are encouraged to check out our partner, Bluehost. Bluehost is similar to Typepad, but offers a greater array of plans and services and is a leading WordPress host perfect for bloggers. With Bluehost, you’ll get 24/7 support, increased value and an exceptional experience.
Hopefully b will recognize the inevitable sooner rather than later.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Nov 2 2022 18:55 utc | 92
Who’s afraid of US troops in Ukraine? indian punchline from today – worth a read..
Posted by: james | Nov 2 2022 18:56 utc | 93
@ Down South | Nov 2 2022 17:30 utc | 80
thanks for that additional and important bit of info…
Posted by: james | Nov 2 2022 19:55 utc | 94
When you post and nothing happens, open a new tab and go to the main page and click through to the old thread to wait for your post..
The main culprit (no, the only one) is whoever coded the sql database. Put a effing unique index on the posts table so that it is impossible to insert the same post multiple times (alternatively you can also check if the post is in the database, genius, before inserting it). And just in case for the retarded architects, a centralized database is just fine (you never know what people come up with).
Posted by: C | Nov 2 2022 20:19 utc | 95
**** multiple posts ***
I have always found that even after a successful post, hitting the Refresh button (or control-R etc.) will resubmit the same post.
Solution: after posting I go to the MoA home page, then navigate forward to read the page again.
1. Create and Preview your post
2. Hit Post to submit your message
3. Click the Moon of Alabama logo to view the home page
4. Navigate back to the page you posted on
Even if your post takes time to show up, this process will not repost it.
Refreshing the page after a Post will submit the form a second (third …) time.
Posted by: jonku | Nov 2 2022 20:26 utc | 96
#77 SwissArmyMan
A valid point, and made me check.
The War powers Resolution was introduced in 1973, and does not necessarily prevent the President from taking military action, it places a requirement on the President to notify Congress within a specified time, and obliges him to return for approval if he wants to continue the action further.
But your observation is apposite.
Posted by: Orchard1 | Nov 2 2022 20:37 utc | 97
Hey Hack! Good to hear from you again, even if was somewhat ironic. This Typepad/cloudfare doesn’t seem to work very well. If it’s located in the US, that’s part of the problem. Nothing works well here anymore. Thanks b. I’m only going to hit the post button once. Will see what happens. Cheers!
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Nov 2 2022 21:24 utc | 98
osted by: Orchard1 | Nov 2 2022 16:34 utc | 72
On the US Congress declaring war, I am 75 and the last time was before I was born, just look at the damage they can do without it.
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Nov 2 2022 17:42 utc | 77
Yeah sure all those B52’s carpet bombing for Democracy all over the “other” part of the world were from the peace corps.
US doesn’t need congress for war, it needs congress to keep the population divided.
Posted by: K | Nov 2 2022 21:29 utc | 99
Compilation on small part of the footage of UAF attacks over autumn season.
https://twitter.com/mdfzeh/status/1587925026497384449
Posted by: unimperator | Nov 2 2022 22:50 utc | 100