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November 05, 2022

The Twitter Massacre

I am amusing myself with watching the panic some people express over Elon Musk's cleanup of Twitter.

Yesterday 3,700 of its 7,500 workers were fired. That is not good, but the company was losing money and making money is at the core of the capitalist game.

Of interest is what functions were eliminated. The Guardian provides this list:

From news reports and terminated employees’ announcements, here’s what we know so far about the teams that have been hit by the layoffs of thousands of Twitter employees:

  • The human rights team has been laid off, according to a now former employee, Shannon Raj Singh, who said the team worked to protect those at risk in global conflicts, including in Ukraine, Afghanistan and Ethiopia.
  • The ML (machine learning) Ethics, Transparency and Accountability team is gone, according to a tweet of a laid-off manager.
  • The “internet technology team”, which helps keep the site running, has been cut to “a skeleton crew”, two sources told the Times.
  • An accessibly experience engineering team has been cut, according to a laid-off engineering manager.
  • The curation team, responsible for the Moments feature on Twitter, has also been cut, former employees reported.
  • Twitter’s communications department is almost entirely gone, according to the Verge.
  • Other areas that have been heavily impacted, the Verge reported, include product trust and safety, policy, research and social good.

What were these teams actually doing?

The human rights team leader gave some hints:

Shannon Raj Singh @ShannonRSingh - 17:58 UTC · Nov 4, 2022

Yesterday was my last day at Twitter: the entire Human Rights team has been cut from the company.
I am enormously proud of the work we did to implement the UN Guiding Principles on Business & Human Rights, to protect those at-risk in global conflicts & crises including Ethiopia, Afghanistan, and Ukraine, and to defend the needs of those particularly at risk of human rights abuse by virtue of their social media presence, such as journalists & human rights defenders.

The human rights team was the 'regime change' force on Twitter. It intervened in conflicts where the U.S. preferred a certain side.

Jerri ☮️ @JerusWorld - 20:42 UTC · Nov 4, 2022
Replying to @ShannonRSingh
So you are the one that was censoring pro-Ethiopian and Eritrean voices in order to help the rebel group from Tigray. May Karma pay you back for thousands of lives perished in US/West proxy war.

Shannon Raj Singh had previously meddled in Afghan and other countries' cultures:

Shannon Raj Singh is a Legal Counsel for SAHR, advising a Kabul-based team on sexual violence litigation in Afghanistan, which aims to end the invasive and discriminatory practice of female virginity testing.

She is an international criminal law attorney focused on victim-centered responses to mass atrocities. Currently based in The Hague, she has experience working with the Special Tribunal for Lebanon, the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda, and a number of human rights NGOs in sub-Saharan Africa. She has also practiced as a litigator in the United States, appearing in both state and federal courts and assisting with overseas corruption investigations under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

The machine learning ethics, transparency and accountability team was also fired. Machine learning, also glorified as 'artificial intelligence', is essentially an (often lousy) pattern recognition system. It can be trained with categorized data and, after that, can categorized other data it gets presented. All one needs to know about its ethics, transparency and accountability is is the old IT wisdom 'garbage in garbage out'. If one trains the system with faulty categorized data it will fail to correctly categorize data. It does not need an extra team to learn that.

I do not know what the 'Internet technology team' was doing but the function obviously still exists. It was merely downsized.

The accessibly experience engineering team included at least five members. There task was to modify the Twitter app so it could be used better by people with disabilities. I find it weird that Twitter had a whole team for that. To teach designers to use colors that can be differentiated by color blind people takes about 90 minutes max. All other accessibility issues I can think of (fontsize, button size etc.) are an issue for the device and operation system, not for an application like Twitter that runs on top of those. Besides that, how big is the market of people with disabilities for a company like Twitter?

The 'curation team' ran the Twitter moments feature. It allows for blog posts about specific tweets. The feature never took off. I know of no one who has ever used it.

Many journalists are hostile to Musk's takeover of their favorite hang out. The communications department was there to talk to the press. Why bother?

And the other functions? Product trust and safety, policy, research and social good? What were they actually doing? How has the 'social good' team helped the company to be successful?

The Washington Post laments that Twitter fired some people who were doing 'election information':

The mass layoffs Friday gutted teams devoted to combating election misinformation, adding context to misleading tweets and communicating with journalists, public officials and campaign staff.

The layoffs included a number of people who were scheduled to be on call this weekend and early next week to monitor for signs of foreign disinformation, spam and other problematic content around the election, one former employee told The Washington Post.

'Foreign meddling' is certainly an issue in U.S. elections as foreign money funneled through lobbyists can influence the votes. But 'foreign meddling' on social media is simply a myth promoted by Democrats as part of their great 'Russiagate' fake.

Twitter's downfall into a 'regime change' outlet came in 2009 when it moved a maintenance window to help U.S. 'regime change' efforts in Iran:

The Obama administration says it has tried to avoid words or deeds that could be portrayed as American meddling in Iran’s presidential election and its tumultuous aftermath.

Yet on Monday afternoon, a 27-year-old State Department official, Jared Cohen, e-mailed the social-networking site Twitter with an unusual request: delay scheduled maintenance of its global network, which would have cut off service while Iranians were using Twitter to swap information and inform the outside world about the mushrooming protests around Tehran.

The request, made to a Twitter co-founder, Jack Dorsey, is yet another new-media milestone: the recognition by the United States government that an Internet blogging service that did not exist four years ago has the potential to change history in an ancient Islamic country.
...
Twitter complied with the request, saying in a blog post on Monday that it put off the upgrade until late Tuesday afternoon — 1:30 a.m. Wednesday in Tehran — because its partners recognized “the role Twitter is currently playing as an important communication tool in Iran.”

That was an expensive mistake. Shortly thereafter Twitter lost access to the Iranian market.

Back to 'regime change' assistant Shannon Raj Singh:

chinahand @chinahand - 18:55 UTC · Nov 4, 2022
Quoting @ShannonRSingh
Somebody should publish the pre Elon org chart. Judging by this twitter walked talked and quacked like an NGO which made it subject to banning in half the world

Twitter had become a 'woke' company that was mostly in the hands of the Democratic Party. By being 'woke' and by supporting 'regime change' efforts Twitter killed its own access to at least half of its potential market.

It Musk manages to make it a more neutral service, nationally and internationally, while keeping its original function alive, I am all for it.

Unfortunately that is unlikely to happen.

Posted by b on November 5, 2022 at 17:05 UTC | Permalink

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B Have more Faith in our Lord an Savior Elon Musk, Goddamit. ;o)

Posted by: Kerwas | Nov 5 2022 17:21 utc | 1

I agree that Twitter, pre-Musk, was run more like an NGO with an agenda than a public utility. And as you hint, I also think that Elon Musk has his own agenda, and that may affect how Twitter is run in the future. Musk, of course, wants to make money, and he is smart enough to realize that Twitter's censorship policies were killing the golden goose. But he has his own priorities, and is likely enough a control freak that he will be unable to just run Twitter as a public utility.

In any case, I have never actively used my Twitter account. I do not find that kind of social medium useful for truly informative debate. A web site such as this one, with a decently moderated comments section, is much more useful that way.

Posted by: R.A. | Nov 5 2022 17:25 utc | 2

judging by the reactions I see on the Twit, @ElonMusk is turning the left upside down. Drudge Report had a link to article saying over 1 million users have quit twatr since Musk closed the deal. I say, "it sure smells a lot cleaner here" since the sidewalk p00pers pulled up their drawers and waddled somewhere else...

Posted by: polyhedral | Nov 5 2022 17:25 utc | 3

Re accessibility, it's valuable and laudable to ensure that apps and websites work for everybody, including those with low vision, or needing assistive devices. This is a group that has long been isolated and excluded, and computers/online are a vital opening for people in it. But for all the hullabaloo, you're right in that there isn't that much to it. Contrast ratios for visuals (designers love an imperceptibly darker gray on a light gray for text, which nobody can see), making sure all controls are available to assistive devices (screen readers and other special devices), and ensuring links are descriptive instead of just "click here" or "here". That's really it. There's a list of requirements and an internal website to consult, and you're supposed to check for these things before checking in. That said, I regularly fix accessibility bugs.

I agree with your greater point about how much it's worth. I've been doing this since 2005, and while it's increasingly emphasized, no one has ever been able to provide hard numbers of how many people rely on accessibility features. They must have them, given the apps and whatever OS tracks everything. It would be interesting to know if the time and money spent helps hundreds of thousands, or a few thousand, or even fewer. But my gently curious questions are immediately shut down. Just a curious reaction.

Posted by: D | Nov 5 2022 17:26 utc | 4

While layoffs may be partially connected to genuinely removing all the ultra liberal rot and censorship, another part may also relate that Musk is just temporarily owning it. There may be a business case by removing all the excess fat and making it a decent profitable business, helping him to forward sell it as the track record goes on for a couple of years. Anyway, good to see them all screaming and maybe put some dent in US regime change ops and other "liberal values" propagation for a year or two. Probably wishful thinking, though.

Posted by: unimperator | Nov 5 2022 17:34 utc | 5

According to UK radio news Musk fired the staff because Twitter was/is losing $4 million dollars a day.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 5 2022 18:07 utc | 6

Assuming $40/hour the firings have the potential to save perhaps a quarter of the daily loss. Can they increase income to balance the rest without investment in new products and services likely to be challenging to integrate?

Posted by: Hermit | Nov 5 2022 18:07 utc | 7

So an entire cadre of social engineering rainbow people were laid off from a company with a large web presence but little tangible assets.
I see.......

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Nov 5 2022 18:08 utc | 8

I wonder if this will change under Musk's tenure of Twitter.


"The senior Twitter executive with editorial responsibility for the Middle East is also a part-time officer in the British Army’s psychological warfare unit, Middle East Eye has established.

Gordon MacMillan, who joined the social media company's UK office six years ago, has for several years also served with the 77th Brigade, a unit formed in 2015 to develop “non-lethal” ways of waging war.

The 77th Brigade uses social media platforms such as Twitter, Instagram and Facebook, as well as podcasts, data analysis and audience research to conduct what the head of the UK military, General Nick Carter, describes as “information warfare”.


https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/twitter-executive-also-part-time-officer-uk-army-psychological-warfare-unit

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Nov 5 2022 18:10 utc | 9

Well, I may be entirely wrong, but Musk taking control of one of the main Democrat / Neocon propaganda outlets and demolishing its colored revolution department a week before midterms sounds like a big F U to the DNC. Since I don't have any reason to believe a billionaire can have ethical reasons, I guess Musk may have struck some deal with the Republican party, among other things possibly getting a guarantee he will be paid in full by the US government for Ukraine's use of Starlink, for which it has so far "forgot" to pay.
Anyway, for now it's entertaining to see the woke liberals thrown off their cardboard high horses and shrieking in the mud.

Posted by: SumGuy | Nov 5 2022 18:15 utc | 10

With all those "features" gone, twitter is now rendered to the level of the "sun", "daily mail", "mirror" etc newspapers.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Nov 5 2022 18:19 utc | 11

Suppose all 3 700 of these people made 200 000, the "savings" would be 740 000 000. Savings is in quotation marks because businessmen and other conservatives are quite apt to cut essential spending and do permanent damage, in the name of short run savings. Dropping quality control, R&D, neglecting physical infrastructure, pretending there's no need for redundancy or peak loads, etc. are all time-honored modes of incompetence masquerading as thrift. Now it is highly unlikely all those people make 200k. It is much more likely the real fat in the salaries is in the executive compensation. But, even if they did *and* there were no long term costs, the quarterly savings would be 1/4th of the generous estimate, 185 000 000 per quarter. Fortune estimates the last quarter, Twitter lost 400 000 000. Praising Musk for firing deadbeats is more about being anti-worker. Musk will be damaging Twitter, period. Trying to pretend there's some sort of wing-nut agenda is more about worshipping wealthy men. They are after all the blessed of Mammon, the one true God, though He has many names. (The last is sarcasm.)

Nobody ever had their wokeness created by Twitter and no anti-woke was ever strangled by Twitter. Banning the perpetrator of an attempted coup is common sense. Endorsing Musk's rampage in a back-handed effort to endorse the violent overthrow of the US government by a minority of crazed small business owners, right-wing vets etc. is not a friendly act.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Nov 5 2022 18:21 utc | 12


Assuming $40/hour the firings have the potential to save perhaps a quarter of the daily loss. Can they increase income to balance the rest without investment in new products and services likely to be challenging to integrate?

Posted by: Hermit | Nov 5 2022 18:07 utc | 7

I'm certain it's at least double that, on average. A dotcom based in SF pays a premium on even the already inflated salaries these tech jobs command. Probably not enough to save the company but staunches the bleeding a lot.

Posted by: D | Nov 5 2022 18:24 utc | 13

Twitter was no different from all the other crappy tech companies from the last bubble.
(1) grow as fast as you can (2) raise as much money as you can (3) generate a lot of hype, rinse repeat.
Creating a new department in order to issue a press release when you are able to raise money at will is a tiny expense. The C-suite probably don't want to know what the org chart looks like. Oh and heavy infiltration by the Deep State, there's also that.

Posted by: Battenmountain | Nov 5 2022 18:27 utc | 14

A lot of excessive people in big tech companies are people with connections to big stockholders, e.g., they are related either directly or by marriage. Often rich people with a lot of family relations will try to get them easy work or no show high paying jobs so they don't have to worry about them hitting them up for cash. We see this also in media which is why if you are able to look into the backgrounds of most people in high paid mainstream media jobs they usually come from a background with lots of connections. High paying jobs in politics also is where you will see most people working in a politicians staff are there due to family connections. For example a recent Project Veritas of Katie Hobbs interviewed a high level staffer in her campaign with a rifle in his car, I looked into his background and his mom has a high level position in a corporation closely tied to the government. See The Power Elite Says The Quiet Part Out Loud

Posted by: Kali El | Nov 5 2022 18:29 utc | 15

I've noticed too that the trending bar often has 'factcheckers' 'debunking' stories I'd never even see in the first place. IE, they were propagating the idea that vast amounts of total madness and propaganda is just flowing over people who have the 'wrong' opinions and implies to those in the mainstream echo chamber that this is what is happening and makes them feel smarter for seeing the 'debunked' nonsense.

OF course, most of these stories even if they were widely viewed and believed are often of no consequence whatsoever, the MSM however do promote lies and propaganda that get scores of people killed and affect the fates of whole peoples and nations.

See also the Q-Anon flap where a fringe ideology believed and seen by almost no-one was implicitly positioned as being vast and influential and characterising the locus of dissent since 2016. I know many upper middle class people (Particularly women) who actually believe Q-Anon was a big deal.

Posted by: Altai | Nov 5 2022 18:30 utc | 16

Sounds like Musk is eliminating a lot of BS jobs and keep the people who are actually doing the work of running the company. Not a bad decision if you have to pay for it. David Graeber on BS jobs

Posted by: WBerliner | Nov 5 2022 18:32 utc | 17

Best to use signal or telegram or parler

Posted by: Exile | Nov 5 2022 18:37 utc | 18

Did they fire the ex-mossad agents they hire?
The Tel Avi team? The research department in Israel?
Ummm…. Thought so.
Get a celebrity owner to distract from the real strategy.

Posted by: Chumps | Nov 5 2022 18:39 utc | 19

b:

Unfortunately that is unlikely to happen.

Indeed. Scott Ritter’s Twitter account has been permanently banned on April 9, 2022 because of Scott’s questioning of the Western mainstream narrative on Bucha. Following Musk’s acquisition of Twitter, Scott set up a new Twitter account and posted the following tweet:

Scott Ritter @author_himself - 8:53 UTC · Oct 28, 2022

@aaronjmate @richimedhurst @MaxBlumenthal @elonmusk I’m back.
Test, test, test.
Bucha was a war crime. Ukraine did it.
Test, test, test.

Bucha, Revisited

This new account was suspended the next day, October 29.

Scott is now openly challenging Andrey Shapovalov (Andriy Shapovalov), the acting director of the Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation, which has labeled Scott an “information terrorist”, to an open debate:

Throwing down the gauntlet on Bucha (Scott Ritter Extra, Scott Ritter, November 4, 2022)

Posted by: S | Nov 5 2022 18:39 utc | 20

Cont’d from #20

Scott’s Telegram channel has 82k subscribers: https://t.me/s/scottritter

Posted by: S | Nov 5 2022 18:43 utc | 21

The saga at Twitter is entertaining to say the least. Time someone knocked the messianic Wokesters off their high horse.

My favourite meme so far given the above:

Twitter employees finding out that their pronouns are “was/were”

Posted by: Down South | Nov 5 2022 18:46 utc | 22

Thanks b for the list of axed departments I probably would have missed this story, pretty interesting. Whatever else about Musk's motives seems he either intuited or read Graeber's (in)famous bullshit jobs essay. If so hats off to him:

David Graeber-On the Phenomenon of Bullshit Jobs

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Nov 5 2022 18:46 utc | 23

Steven Johnson is wrong. Women have been permanently thrown off Twitter for pointing out that men in dresses are still men or for saying "he" when referring to a man.
That is Not Allowed in Woke World. Rape and death threats to women are allowed, however. (See JK Rowling).
I hope that the women will be reinstated.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Nov 5 2022 18:51 utc | 24

Twitter is a mature tech now. It doesn’t need any further marginal development that will equal in greater take up.

I never have but watch certain bloggers accounts, such as our host via a browser.

There are a host of social media apps which are being taken up by the rest of the world - a greater users base than Twitter will achieve. And they have cut of their noses by having been banned in these areas for their imperialist face.

Hence they are screwed in terms of being able to monetise whilst fully capturing the majority of humanity for their nefarious plans.

They will use this kabuki to slim down and sell off to some emerging greater god or lose all of their potential value as people migrate to these new platforms. Which are als usable by the Western World. There are many and most savvy independent journos are migrating successfully to these alternatives.

Afaik Elon and Jake are mates and Jake has retained his stake.

Elon is being the old New World Orders current lead man in their worst case scenario of not keeping the Multipolarist world down. Making Friends so that his backers can at least have a piece of their cake when they fail to take it all themselves through the traditional muscle flexing.

If it keeps the twatterati annoyed and unable to cry crocodile tears whilst running a gaslighting operation on their captive demented Collective Waste so much the better - but I agree with b, I doubt it.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Nov 5 2022 18:56 utc | 25

"Yesterday 3,700 of its 7,500 workers were fired. That is not good, but the company was losing money and making money is at the core of the capitalist game."

Capitalism punishes losers and rewards winners. What, exactly, is 'not good' about that?

Posted by: Monos | Nov 5 2022 18:57 utc | 26

@steven t johnson #12:

Praising Musk for firing deadbeats is more about being anti-worker.

So firing U.S. Dem Party censors masquerading as “fact-checkers” is now “anti-worker”. You’re really keeping Louis Proyect’s spirit alive!

…no anti-woke was ever strangled by Twitter.

Yes, yes. And black is white, and up is down.

Posted by: S | Nov 5 2022 19:01 utc | 27

b

i think this is great news! your conclusion at the end might be correct too... time will tell.

as i see it AI run by the intel agencies is the major problem of all these social media platforms... the fact this ML team is gone means what exactly?? the AI team is gone?? (The ML (machine learning) Ethics, Transparency and Accountability team is gone, according to a tweet of a laid-off manager. ) i can't see the cia and fbi letting this happen... does anyone here think this is legit?? this to me is the major problem with all of these platforms - AI and who gets to decide what goes thru and what doesn't... so, until musk - or tweetdaddy speaks directly to this - i tend to believe it will be business as usual for the cia and fbi with regard to twitter.... if there is enough kicking and screaming and tweetdaddy goes awol - that will imply the cia and fbi are still in charge....... screw the woketards and both sides of the war party - dems and repubs..

Posted by: james | Nov 5 2022 19:02 utc | 28

I think this is more about Musk participating in the 'labor discipline' against some of the highest-paid workers in the US economy (all the big tech companies are doing layoffs or hiring freezes now too; all of them are dealing with internal labor organization efforts and the drama associated with ending regular remote work due to covid).

However one interesting side effect is that now when there is a Republican tsunami next week, the worthless Dems can't claim it was "Russian disinformation operations" as the reason for their loss. Maybe when Mitch McConnell is the Senate leader again his play to crush the Trump faction will be the 'return of the Adults' and do a hard shift into a more paleoconservative or Eisenhower-ish shift away from the bombast and war without admitting to the role the intelligence agencies have played in the chaos since Trump. The guy is the biggest cynic on earth so note I'm not suggesting he is the savior of the republic, he probably just wants to get this Ukraine bs shut down in time for his chance to regime change China over Taiwan.

Posted by: super extra | Nov 5 2022 19:21 utc | 29

Yesterday 3,700 of its 7,500 workers were fired. That is not good...

Because that's nowhere near enough.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Nov 5 2022 19:22 utc | 30

Elon Musk is the richest man on earth.
As such, he's the enemy of everything good and one of the worst piece of turd you can find.
His Starlink service, provided free for the Ukrainian military, has prolonged the war and is responsible for hundreds, if not thousands of innocent Russian deaths.
He should be executed on the spot and hung by his feet at some oil station.
The idea that anything good could come out of such human rubbish is preposterous.

Posted by: Vissarionovich | Nov 5 2022 19:25 utc | 31

thanks b. again.

Posted by: annie | Nov 5 2022 19:27 utc | 32

Yesterday 3,700 of its 7,500 workers were fired. That is not good...

Should've been publicly executed.

Posted by: Skiffer | Nov 5 2022 19:33 utc | 33

@ Vissarionovich | Nov 5 2022 19:25 utc | 31

that is a bit harsh.. i think he is like most people - certain talents and qualities and typically lacking in some other dept... his commentary on bolivia and etc. etc - really boneheaded and stupid.. you could say he is a complete ignoramus on usa foreign policy and that would probably be accurate... so in all likelihood the intel agencies will continue on with twitter and musk too... but saying what you say is extreme and i don't agree with your way of resolving these differences...

Posted by: james | Nov 5 2022 19:49 utc | 34

I have worked as systems architect on several projects involving "Accessibility Experience", and can say that 5 people looks rather understaffed to me. Applications with far lesser reach routinely need to comply with certain EU and national regulations to make services available to those visually impaired or being dependant on additional software to e.g. read screens for them.
Color schemes are only a miniscule part of that. Some Projects had to scrap and replace entire layers of software developent to accomodate accessibility requirements, at great cost, involving dozens of people for years.
So from all the mentioned teams that one seems (to me at least) an actually neccessity.

Posted by: architect | Nov 5 2022 19:51 utc | 35

Musk firing all that staff is pretty simple, actually. For one thing he tried like hell to back out of the purchase but was compelled to move forward by some sort of court order. He knew he was buying a giant pile of overpriced garbage but his initial PR stunt backfired on him, so he had to buy it.

Here's how I see this going down -
1) As soon as Musk is the owner, they lose a ton of major advertisers (General Mills, CVS, United Airlines, GM, Audi, Mazda, Porsche, VW, AmEx, Coca-Cola, Johnson & Johnson, Levi Strauss, Spotify, Ford, Dyson, Forbes, DIRECTV, Nintendo, Unilever and PBS just to start).

2) Musk sees the writing on the wall and looming crash in share value (and possible 'run' on the stock) so he does what any corporate executive would do and makes major staffing cuts to shore up value.

3) Once things have stabilized (at a much lower share valuation), Musk will strip what assets look potentially profitable in the future and sell off Twitter for the remaining parts. Kind of the Mitt Romney approach.

3a) In an alternative scenario, Musk works behind the scenes with the Five Eyes security state and quietly transfers operations and ownership to CIA or NSA shell companies. Twitter is already awash with spooks. I highly doubt that any of their major assets were cut (like the "regime change" branch b mentions). Twitter proceeds to function as a sandbox for Empire narratives.

3b) In another alternative scenario, Musk recognizes that he lost all that potential revenue in places like China and Iran and simply sells the company to some other company who boots out the security apparatus operants and continues to do business as Twitter.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 5 2022 19:53 utc | 36

Yesterday 3,700 of its 7,500 workers were fired.
Cancelled. That's the word they would use.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 5 2022 19:54 utc | 37

And to be clear, those advertisers I mentioned have already suspended all ads on Twitter.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 5 2022 19:55 utc | 38

The climate catastrophe clowns got booted out by Musk too. Not before time.

Posted by: Gt Stroller | Nov 5 2022 20:04 utc | 39

Interesting that Elon Musk bought Twitter and started hollowing it out of all or nearly all its most fervidly "woke" employees - many of them creating their own little empires in the company - just ahead of Congress mid-term elections. That presumably means no time for Twitter to get ready to "monitor" tweets for target words and expressions, and to shut down accounts expressing opinions critical of the Biden administration.

If the Democrats get hammered in the midterms, I wonder what will happen to Musk if he is forced to share blame along with the usual supposed culprits like Russian and Chinese hackers.

Posted by: Jen | Nov 5 2022 20:21 utc | 40

Looks like Musk is taking on the Lernean Hydra…

Posted by: Adam Troy | Nov 5 2022 20:29 utc | 41

So we finally have a definition of “useless - eaters” ; the fired Twitter employees. Also , Elon -lovers, rein in your adulation, please. He only ever made a buck when the US gov has thrown cash at him. That is not capitalism, it is central - planning or socialism for the Rich.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Nov 5 2022 20:32 utc | 42

@ Jen | Nov 5 2022 20:21 utc | 40

just disable the AI and all will be well... but that would mean disabling the intel agencies and i can't see it happening.. your quote -

" That presumably means no time for Twitter to get ready to "monitor" tweets for target words and expressions, and to shut down accounts expressing opinions critical of the Biden administration."

Posted by: james | Nov 5 2022 20:32 utc | 43

Musk- a regular visitor to MoA- is a shrewd businessman. He has done lots of work for, and been well rewarded by the MIC. And now he is hedging his bets.
It is beginning to be obvious to anyone with the enough brains to tie his shoelaces, that the "B" in the Powers that Be, is turning into a "W" as in Powers That Were.
Musk watches cookies crumbling for a living and he can understand what is happening in the "west." A Canadian from South Africa he understands that all the military muscle and ruthlessness in the world avails little against a righteous cause.

Posted by: bevin | Nov 5 2022 20:38 utc | 44

Thanks b for very informative article.

One possible scenario is that Elon will make the interface and experience less 'woke' / one-sided so as to have a balanced population of users again. But the intel-related bowels which presumably involve information gathering, studying trends, demographic interests etc. plus narrative seeding exercises will continue. So they will cancel most of the cancelling on the surface - though only to a certain extent - but underneath it will be the same. Elon has made billions from government contracts and funding. He is part of the system. Those expecting him to revive free speech and help overthrow the Deep State are going to be disappointed.

(I also wonder if he qualifies to be a US President. It feels like he might be considering it, a hip insider run following in Trump's footsteps....)

Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 5 2022 20:39 utc | 45

Gt Stroller | Nov 5 2022 20:04 utc | 39

"The climate catastrophe clowns got booted out by Musk too."

That's strange. Tesla's entire business model is based on two things, government subsidies and virtue-signaling by wealthy liberals over the climate crisis.

(Now that I think about it, if Tesla depends upon upscale liberal customers, the same that are likely to be "woke" Dembots, isn't he antagonizing these very persons with his quixotic Twatter adventure?)

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Nov 5 2022 20:43 utc | 46

I find it funny that some people in this site really believe that a crazy US oligarch will step in to restore freedom of speech in Twitter. Wake up! Musk saw a big opportunity: a very important global communication tool used by all 3 letter agencies, and that is being poorly managed from a financial standpoint. He decided to step in as the "savior" of free speech and become the PERSONAL gatekeeper for this network. No wonder he fired immediately everyone already doing the gatekeeping. In other words, he wants to be the one colluding with the 3 letter agencies, but obviously for a price: the maintenance and expansion of his personal empire that depends directly on government handouts.

Posted by: Majon Roriz | Nov 5 2022 20:54 utc | 47

Naturally the climate clowns fired by Musk can follow the Biden admin's advice:
https://twitter.com/legitDogeQueen/status/1588995707826241537

Posted by: Gt Stroller | Nov 5 2022 20:54 utc | 48

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Nov 5 2022 20:43 utc | 46

Short answer? Yep. Look at all the advertisers who have suspended Twitter ad buys.

I honestly don't think Musk knows what he's doing assuming the goal isn't simply that of a private equity corporate raider. He pretends to hold steady ideological and environmental principles, but as you point out, his actions don't appear to be consistent with them. However, if he is doing what Mittens would do, then he couldn't care less about the libs and is just trying desperately to turn a profit or minimize his losses before moving on and forgetting the whole Twitter thing ever happened. We'll see...it could well come down to ego.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 5 2022 20:56 utc | 49

".. I also wonder if he qualifies to be a US President..." Scorpion@45
He doesn't. He can't. He won't.

Posted by: bevin | Nov 5 2022 21:00 utc | 50

Stephen T. Johnson is right that what Twitter was has been damaged by these layoffs. Where he’s wrong is that what Twitter was deserved to be damaged in exactly the way it got.

Posted by: Dalit | Nov 5 2022 21:04 utc | 51

You know, complaining about a former boss is the death nell of a future career. Seriously. I get it. I hated rich people for years until I worked with them and realized their pain was just like ours and it hurt, just like ours. A lot of people were born into riches, and it hurts them on a daily basis, maybe not like not having clean drinking water. Imagine all those stupid war bucks at least getting clarified drinking water. Clarified drinking water is what the team here endured in New Orleans. Bits of toilet paper swirling your glass. "Water? Never touch the stuff" WC Fields

Posted by: Jimmy Flies By | Nov 5 2022 21:08 utc | 52

Il a investit des milliards dans un réseau social par amour de la liberté d'expression je n'y crois et vous ?. Ses satellites Starlink, financés par le Pentagone, mais gérés par Elon Musk c'est le militaire derrière le civil. Pour moi c'est un lapin mis en place par la cabale parce qu'elle est convaincu que la censure n'a pas bien fonctionner, ils vont essayer une autre stratégie liberté d'expression-espionnage-ciblage-destruction.
Remember musk Covid-vax support et son projet "NEURALINK"

Si croyez encore au conte de fée hollywoodien? alors vous n'aurez ce que vous avez semé
Pour plus d'infos sur le Projet musk vous saurez que rien n'a change et je pense ça sera peut pire qu'avant:
https://justicenetdz.blogspot.com/2022/11/elon-muskdl-et-dautres-moderateurs-de.html

Posted by: Ahmed | Nov 5 2022 21:08 utc | 53

Republicofscotland #9

"The senior Twitter executive with editorial responsibility for the Middle East is also a part-time officer in the British Army’s psychological warfare unit, Middle East Eye has established.

Gordon MacMillan, who joined the social media company's UK office six years ago, has for several years also served with the 77th Brigade, a unit formed in 2015 to develop “non-lethal” ways of waging war.

Thank you, so we have the return of Netanyahoo and the arrival of Musk and perhaps the arrival of the Republicans.

Musk will evict the employed rainbow team and the bots will fill the online space. If Musk can't get Pentagon bucks for satellites, then the UKUSAI military can supply bot factories and attack dogs for twitter for $8 a month ;)

Looks like a lethal alignment for middle east countries. The result could be a serious break between the Arab clans and the USA.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 5 2022 21:15 utc | 54

Posted by: Ahmed | Nov 5 2022 21:08 utc | 53

In your link the ADL is described as "far left" - Only if hard right Zionism qualifies as left, I guess. But what's in a label these days anyway?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Nov 5 2022 21:16 utc | 55

Interesting times.

The end of the free twatter tattler is in sight.

As one door closes another opens.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Nov 5 2022 21:17 utc | 56

The fact that the Yoel Roth of `Twitter Site Integrity' is still on the job `deprioritizing' suspension appeals and whatnot tells me all I need to know about Elon Musk. Resistance is futile, you will be Zionized. End of.

Posted by: Laurence | Nov 5 2022 21:22 utc | 57

bevin #44

TPTW

I like that, thank you.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 5 2022 21:23 utc | 58

I hope Twitter closes down.

It is a de-facto American propaganda mouthpiece.

Posted by: Smith | Nov 5 2022 21:53 utc | 59

Musk told you in one short tweet why twitter had a value well beyond $40billion.

“””Because it consists of billions of bidirectional interactions per day, Twitter can be thought of as a
collective,
cybernetic
super-intelligence”””

Musk has removed the more extreme censorship to facilitate more of that juicy daily global “bidirectional interactions”.
Some barflies know what he actually means and intends as revealed in that tweet.
Other barflies will point, laugh and mock.
See you on the Other Side…when all of us are Starlinked into a Super Intelligence….

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 5 2022 21:57 utc | 60

" Elon Musk is the richest man on earth.

Posted by: Vissarionovich | Nov 5 2022 19:25 utc | 31 "


Oh really ?

- the Rothschilds

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Nov 5 2022 22:05 utc | 61

Musk’s impossible to solve problem with Twitter is marketing a product that allows a diversity of opinions to a majority of nations that require strict censorship as a prerequisite to do business with them. China, Iran, Australia and everywhere in between do not have First Amendment Rights and the globalists in charge of 97% of the world want it to remain that way.

Posted by: Ike | Nov 5 2022 22:11 utc | 62

People are crazy. Elon Musk is a pentagon's contractor and not some kind of freedom fighter.

Capitalism doesn't work, it makes a lot of people really poor and very few super rich. Right now the media is in hands of very few people that controls culture and information.

Posted by: Carlos | Nov 5 2022 22:11 utc | 63

Come on, et tu b? How can you not see how suspicious this whole theater is? Ofc Twitter was "losing money" but are we really gonna wokesplain this takeover by the pentagon boy. It's clear twitter company was being used to clear God knowns what black money and now they are wrapping up. No need for all these useless depts...

Posted by: galerkin | Nov 5 2022 22:35 utc | 64

b writes:

"The machine learning ethics, transparency and accountability team was also fired. Machine learning, also glorified as 'artificial intelligence', is essentially an (often lousy) pattern recognition system. It can be trained with categorized data and, after that, can categorized other data it gets presented. All one needs to know about its ethics, transparency and accountability is is the old IT wisdom 'garbage in garbage out'. If one trains the system with faulty categorized data it will fail to correctly categorize data. It does not need an extra team to learn that."

While I agree generally with this article, I am afraid b might not know enough about machine learning (ML) tech. For decades, I have worked and done research of many projects in this field. ML is a vast collection techniques and algorithms that goes beyond pattern recognition. For examples, it also includes rule-based systems, reinforcement learning, Monte Carlo methods, etc that can hardly be classified as "pattern matching" systems.

Occasionally, implementation of ML sometimes may involve ethical problems, e.g. in the cases when ML is integrated with military drone tech, or when it is used in automating or even replacing human decision making process. But I seriously doubt Twitter requires a team in this area, and the decision to close the team is probably a right thing (from Twitter investors' point of view).

Posted by: d dan | Nov 5 2022 22:49 utc | 65

A lot of the jobs sound like the ones that the wonderful Graeber called “Shitjobs”

Posted by: Valerie Swales | Nov 5 2022 22:51 utc | 66

"...the Rothschilds..." Deplorable Commissar61

Not "a man." Not even a clan any longer. Just another myth like the illuminati, not much more credible than lizards.

Posted by: bevin | Nov 5 2022 22:51 utc | 67

How will the liberal establishment react if free speech is allowed on Twitter before the Nov 8 elections? They will blame Elon for their loss if they lose big. So I assume that Elon will not allow free speech till after Nov 8 and he may wait til the end of the current political term when new politicians take their offices in January. Right now many liberal political groups are trying to tie him down like they did to Trump by threatening him. Advertising boycotts, political investigations, big fines and probably even criminal charges by the EU, and so on are being spoken about. Elon is clearly seen as a massive threat to the censorship mental prison the neoliberal elites have been building brick by brick for years. But here is what makes this different from previous attempts to break through their control net:

Many people working for the neoliberal elite class are either friends of Elon who want to remain his friend, or are fearful of how Elon may retaliate. Look how he bought Twitter because he didn't like the elites control over all of social media. He can buy lots of stock in major businesses and thereby gain a large portion of voting rights which he can use to demand people be fired. He can direct large amount of money to defeat politicians, he can start competitor businesses, buy control over media and NGOs to push his POV and so on.

With just a few billions he can do all of that. And I believe he doesn't care what people think because he has stated numerous times that he believes we live in a virtual reality world--he has said publicly over and over that our world is a simulated reality like the movie The Matrix.

Posted by: Kali El | Nov 5 2022 22:57 utc | 68

Capitalism punishes losers and rewards winners. What, exactly, is 'not good' about that?
Posted by: Monos | Nov 5 2022 18:57 utc | 26

Pretty much everything actually. It's delusional BS. Fantasy fiction. A Myth. Fake News. And the result of centuries of deceitful manipulative Propaganda.

Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 5 2022 23:04 utc | 69


'Foreign meddling' is certainly an issue in U.S. elections as foreign money funneled through lobbyists can influence the votes

of senators.

The reason the 'foreign interference' meme is bullshit is that Russia and other countries aren't stupid. They know that what American voters (or voters in any Western country) want has almost nothing to do with what governments will do.

The US has all the foreign interference it needs, right to the top. They're all on some foreign payroll or another, and don't forget 10% for the Big Guy.

Posted by: ZX | Nov 5 2022 23:28 utc | 70

I had a Twitter account since 2009, created in order to monitor our client's social media activities and to integrate single sign-on, but I never used it to post, like or respond to anything. Then I retired in 2018 and stayed away.

After the Musk takeover, I went back to see what what the fuss was. Other than a promotional tool and to sell products and services to eyeballs, I still see little value in the platform. It can never function as the town square as it is impossible to have a substantive debate.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Nov 5 2022 23:30 utc | 71

Capitalism punishes losers and rewards winners. What, exactly, is 'not good' about that? Posted by: Monos | Nov 5 2022 18:57 utc | 26

Pretty much everything actually. It's delusional BS. Fantasy fiction. A Myth. Fake News. And the result of centuries of deceitful manipulative Propaganda.

Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 5 2022 23:04 utc | 69

Thanks for clearing that up for me by using so many concrete, real world examples. Sadly, it is true. The best you can say is that it is not the only truth, that there are factors other than just capital and management that determine success or failure.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Nov 5 2022 23:38 utc | 72

Article in ZH entitled: Is Big Tech Funding Literal Migrant "Roadmaps" To Enter The US From Central America?

An aside describing one of the many activities of the new owner of Twitter:


Meanwhile, Doctors Without Borders has gotten sizeable donations from companies like Google and Amazon, the report notes. It has also received millions in donations from the foundations of billionaires like Elon Musk and Michael Bloomberg.

Doctors Without Borders spokeswoman Jessica Brown told The Daily Caller: “As a medical humanitarian organization providing medical and mental health care to people on this migration route, MSF [Médecins Sans Frontières] prints and distributes these maps to ensure that people know where to find shelter and humanitarian assistance and how to access mental health services along the migration route."

Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) Director of Government Relations and Communications RJ Hauman concluded: “The fact that an international medical NGO with billions in the bank is making literal roadmaps to guide migrants from Central America to our southern border is not only an affront to its core mission, but a globalist attack on our sovereignty.”

Hmmm... some of the titans of the 'US Empire' seem hell-bent on bringing the US down.... mayhap 'the unipolar hegemon' is gunning for the US people too? What does 'US' even mean any more anyway?

Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 5 2022 23:47 utc | 73

A scorpion wrote:

"Hmmm... some of the titans of the 'US Empire' seem hell-bent on bringing the US down."

Ha HA HA the concept that new people coming into the US will bring the US down is a concept that would have mystified the founding fathers.

Posted by: jinn | Nov 6 2022 0:09 utc | 74

Regarding Evo Morales, Lithiumivia and the little batteries that could.

"We will coup anyone we want. Deal with it"

Thank you, Elon. No more need be said.

Posted by: Same old, same old | Nov 6 2022 0:11 utc | 75

TASS heading:
"UN High Commissioner calls on Musk to enforce human rights on Twitter"

After the fall of sanity this reads quite well.

Posted by: Elmagnostic | Nov 6 2022 0:19 utc | 76

Speaking for India, the most vocal leftwing twats are barely visible outside of that website.

Posted by: AmusedIndian | Nov 6 2022 0:19 utc | 77

Posted by: Hermit | Nov 5 2022 18:07 utc | 7

Are you from Europe? $40/hr?
Programmer at least $80! Managers much more.
If you add stock awards we are talking serious money.

Posted by: RB | Nov 6 2022 0:20 utc | 78

Opport Knocks | Nov 5 2022 23:30 utc | 71
“……still see little value in the platform.
I don’t have an account.
But the astonishing shit people feel compelled to post.
Like the Polish official who thanked the US for blowing up NS2…
It’s no so much a town square as a confessional.
It doesn’t seem to matter that “important” people are counselled about OSINT… they post the most incriminating stuff on twitter…..and someone always has a screenshot, no matter how fast it’s memory holed…
Roni Salt, a prolific twit in Australia, yesterday claimed twitter removed the Morriscam govt. I agree. No msm were reporting anything about the government corruption and incompetence. But twitter was doing investigative journalism… crowdsourced.
And that’s why the “woke” and msm wanted twitter controlled and “nobodies” cancelled. They need to control and silence to dominate.
But I’ll never have an account.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Nov 6 2022 0:29 utc | 79

Yeah man,... Yeah...

Posted by: Josh | Nov 6 2022 0:55 utc | 80

Maybe we should sic him on facebook next...

Posted by: Josh | Nov 6 2022 1:01 utc | 81

I could give two shits about Twitter, no matter who owns it.

Social media is a waste of time. I have and use none.

Posted by: Michigan Dude | Nov 6 2022 1:05 utc | 82

Musk has as others have pointed out, always been a keen player in the federal govt's 'kiss my butt & I'll make you rich' boondoggle.

This article here details the $886 million which the amerikan government paid to SpaceX to get the starlink service up and running.
The deal was done under something called "Rural Digital Opportunity Fund",or RDOF, an FCC scam organised in Musk's favour back in 2020, doubtless when the old boys were getting alla their ducks in a row for the planned proxy war in Ukraine.

The extra grab from defense a few months ago was what we used to call in the trade union game, an 'ambit claim'. You float an impossibly high figure using some asset say coverage over 90% of a workforce or ownership of a bunch of much needed satellite relays and you do so knowing that your eye-wateringly high claim will never be met. What does happen is that the other party looking for a compromise comes back to you with another figure and the haggling begins. Once the other party responds the 1st party knows they have the fish on the hook & all it's gonna take is a delicate but sudden jerk to dig in the barb.

This is the stunt Musk pulled and while he won't pull down enough to fund his twitter deal he will grab a lot of much needed cash at the same time as informing the dims that he has a powerful lever that he can pull out at any time should any smarty pants try and do him down.

Note to all wishful thinkers, Musk won't be wasting the opportunity on anything as foolish or idealistic as freedom of speech - this is just a bit of insurance against the time when a politician turns on someone they think that they are playing instead of vice-versa.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Nov 6 2022 1:06 utc | 83

Musk is tasked to turn Twitter into US-version of WeChat, one-stop-surveillance and social credit system, which eventually incorporates CBDC.

Posted by: Tigger | Nov 6 2022 1:14 utc | 84

Musk is bollocks, last seen in a satanist outfit on Halloween the satanic holiday, regarding his appearance and his hanging checks I say he is a rotchild.

Posted by: gimmeabreak | Nov 6 2022 1:14 utc | 85

Two things b.

"It Musk manages to make it a more neutral service, nationally and internationally, while keeping its original function alive, I am all for it.

Unfortunately that is unlikely to happen."

You know what Elon always says b?
"It's easy. ha ha ha."
And then it never happens.

More importantly.
"Besides that, how big is the market of people with disabilities for a company like Twitter?"

Seriously? Booooooo. Was there ever a dime to be made in accessibility? No. That's never why a software engineer does it b.

Let's not start shilling for capitalism too much sir.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Nov 6 2022 1:16 utc | 86

I'm a big Musk fan. He's a disciple of Edward De Bono's guidance on Lateral Thinking. Space X surpassed over-cautious and hamstrung NASA very quickly as Rocketeers by embracing the principles of Learning By Doing...
1 Get an idea.
2 Build it and launch it.
3 Examine the wreckage of the failures.
4 Fix the flaws.
5 Build a better one.

Jack Dorsey is a weird personality. He was interviewed by Jane McCutcheon on her One Plus One (abc.net.au) series a few years ago.

Twitter is a wreck and when Musk has finished examining the wreckage and eliminating the flaws, he'll know how to fix it.

Posted by: Hoarsewhlsperer | Nov 6 2022 1:18 utc | 87

A close friend of mine who was a program manager once told me that when programs get into trouble, you are usually better off throwing people off the program than hiring more. He summed it up by saying the Roman legion had the right idea with decimation - that it workds.
What happened at Twitter was far more than decimation, but those who survived may be a little less entitled and more motivated going forward. If this Twitter purchase is going to work, Musk needed a powerful shot across the bow to the employees.

Posted by: ian | Nov 6 2022 1:22 utc | 88

@ Majon Roriz | Nov 5 2022 20:54 utc | 47

It isn't about Musk "restoring free speech," or some such slogan. Of course, Musk only works for his own superrich ends. However, an important part of the decline of the hegemonic juggernaut will have to be the elite starting to fight among themselves, and Musk might be a sign of this. Suggesting how this might be playing out, bevin @ bevin | Nov 5 2022 20:38 utc | 44 says that Musk perceives things falling apart and wants to save himself, and that may be. He is not the only one in the elite to express qualms already against the heavily imposed and policed US Ukraine policy. Things might get interesting.

Posted by: Cabe | Nov 6 2022 1:28 utc | 89

In support of this perspective, thanks

"
Musk is tasked to turn Twitter into US-version of WeChat, one-stop-surveillance and social credit system, which eventually incorporates CBDC.

Posted by: Tigger | Nov 6 2022 1:14 utc | 84
"

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 6 2022 1:39 utc | 90

Ha HA HA the concept that new people coming into the US will bring the US down is a concept that would have mystified the founding fathers.

Posted by: jinn | Nov 6 2022 0:09 utc | 74

Well, it certainly has mystified you!

Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 6 2022 2:26 utc | 91

Musk is tasked to turn Twitter into US-version of WeChat, one-stop-surveillance and social credit system, which eventually incorporates CBDC.

Posted by: Tigger | Nov 6 2022 1:14 utc | 84

BINGO!

Posted by: Scorpion | Nov 6 2022 2:27 utc | 92

b said

It Musk manages to make it a more neutral service, nationally and internationally, while keeping its original function alive, I am all for it.

Unfortunately that is unlikely to happen.

I disagree.

The reality is that all of the US based tech giants: Meta, Google, Twitter, Pinterest and Snapchat were heavily biased towards woke-ism, the Democrat party etc.

I wrote months ago, when the Musk/Twitter saga first started, that Twitter could be worth many multiples of what Musk is paying even at the inflated price of that time if he can change Twitter from one of many woke/Democrat organs to one which the entire population wants to use.

Meta's market cap - even after losing 12 digits of value, is still $240 billion = 6 times what Musk paid for Twitter.

Google's is 1,112 billion = 27 times what Musk paid for Twitter.

A Twitter which offers not just 140 characters of social media, but which also incorporates say email and search in a neutral manner - has the very large part of the non-woke/non-hard core Democrat population as a market opportunity.

Or in other words: there is actual business sense with making Twitter about free speech as opposed to being the little finger in the big Hand of Oppressive Tech.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 6 2022 2:40 utc | 93

Me too

In support of this perspective, thanks

"
Musk is tasked to turn Twitter into US-version of WeChat, one-stop-surveillance and social credit system, which eventually incorporates CBDC.

Posted by: Tigger | Nov 6 2022 1:14 utc | 84

"
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 6 2022 1:39 utc | 90

Still, before that point is reached some real info might escape the net(work)s.

Posted by: Antonym | Nov 6 2022 2:48 utc | 94

UK PM Sunak to pledge accelerated renewables plan at COP27 : https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-pm-sunak-pledge-accelerated-223216063.html

Good: that will accelerate the decline of perfidious Britain. After that the genuine, benign sides of the British isles have a chance to come front.

Western wokism will perish best during strong economic decline, finally hitting their middle classes.

Posted by: Antonym | Nov 6 2022 3:06 utc | 95

MSM always labels Q-Anon. If you have ever watched the psyops, it is Q, and ANON is separate. You can tell someone is from MSM when they just flout Q-ANON as a single entity. Q is the head psyops lead, the ANONs are the so-called digital warriors. Just semantics...LOL

Posted by: Arcticman | Nov 6 2022 3:08 utc | 96

Whitney Webb in her 1000 page books, One Nation Under Blackmail, is making the rounds on youtube and seems to think there is much more to this. Essentially, Klaus Schwab of Na$i progeny, is aligning with Clinton, Silicon Valley and the usually spook/mafia suspects to eliminate commercial banks so that all currency is digital and trackable and issued through central banks. This would eliminate the power of NY banksters/gangsters and the FED. To do so, they would need to collapse German economy to off an ensuing debt crisis there. Musk seems to represent the NY banksters and in eliminating the Schwab cabal. Twitter was the heart of the power structure. You do hear EU and Clinton squawking the most about Muskageddon, but Im not sure if Webb is real or trying to take over Alex Jones old spot.

Posted by: Turk 152 | Nov 6 2022 3:47 utc | 97

Screw the overpaid 30 and 40 something’s at tweeter.
They should learn to clean toilets.

I hope those people are forced to grow their own vegetables,
raise their own kids,
and dig wells for their water.

Screw Tweeter and it’s former employees.

Posted by: You tweeted? | Nov 6 2022 4:40 utc | 98

Sign me up. Twitter is sounding pretty good just now!

Posted by: respawn | Nov 6 2022 5:02 utc | 99

In America when it was formed, the Postal System was born as one of those public/private decisions of the day that has since lost its public character and been marginalized over time.

The Founding Fathers, by creating the Postal System, were saying that communication was a public good that should be provided (to some degree) by government. I would posit that what communication capabilities that government does not provide must be regulated and managed within some sort of public boundaries (few, hopefully).
WeChat is China's example of a private provided tool that is becoming heavily government managed (from what I read).

If Twitter becomes an unregulated source for some groups truth and is manipulative about it I would hope governments regulate Twitter and other social media BS to the benefit of society instead of just pushing consumption or influencing memes.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 6 2022 5:10 utc | 100

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