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November 26, 2022

Syria - Another Turkish Invasion Is Imminent

After two years of relative quietness the situation in Syria is again escalating.

This follows a terror attack in Istanbul two weeks ago allegedly committed by a woman who had traveled there from the Kurdish controlled city of Kobani in northeast Syria. Turkey accused the U.S., which is occupying northeast Syria, of complicity in the attack.

A week after the Istanbul incident Turkey started to bomb Kurdish positions in east Syria. It has now threatened to (again) invade it.


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I have not written about the conflict for quite a while and there are many new readers. So here is a list of names and abbreviations relevant to the story:

  • PKK - Kurdistan Workers Party - fighting, often with terrorist methods, for a larger Kurdistan country to be formed from Kurdish areas in Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey
  • YPG - People's Defense Units - Kurdish-Syrian part of the PKK, currently silently allied with the U.S. occupation force in eastern Syria
  • YPJ - Female units of the YPG
  • SDF - Syrian Democratic Forces - 'former' YPG currently openly allied with the U.S. occupation force in eastern Syria
  • Mazlum - 'former' YPG head, current SDF head in Syria collaborating with the U.S.
  • Rojava - self-administrating area in northeast Syria under SDF / U.S. control
  • Barzani - head of government in the Kurdish ruled province in north Iraq - hostile to PKK/YPG, friend with U.S.
  • SAA - Syrian Arab Army - Syria's regular military
  • HTS - Hayat Tahir al-Sham - Al-Qaeda derivative, Turkish proxy which rules parts of northwest Syria

Stealing from the Turkish commentator Agitpapa here is, slightly edited, the latest news from the area.

agitpapa @agitpapa - 9:09 UTC · 26 Nov 2022

It's the PKK's anniversary tomorrow and there are rumors that Turkey wants to kick off its land war against the Kurds in Rojava on that date.

Three days of Turkish airstrikes allegedly greenlit by Russia and the US - although the Turks claim they were all from inside Turkish airspace - have devastated the civilian and military infrastructure of Rojava. Power generation was knocked out, leaving 65K villages in the dark. Oil wells, the LNG bottling plant, and grain silos were destroyed and top SDF bases in Hasaka were bombed, including Mazlum's HQ.

The US only registered a weak protest against its main occupation base being bombed by a NATO member. Airstrikes also hit SAA and Russian positions in Tal Tamer, killing SAA soldiers. SDF sources claim the Russians evacuated shortly before the airstrike.

The Turks bombed over 40 targets in both US- and Russian-controlled areas, in N Syria as well as Jazeera, tracing a wide map of the many-sided blackmail and treachery that seems to be culminating now with the total cleansing of the Kurdish population:

The Ukraine blackmail of the Turks vs Russia, extracting Russian acquiescence in exchange for their economic/political support for Russia against the West, the treachery of the SDF, allying itself with the imperialist global hegemon against the Syrian people and Russia, and the treachery of the US, stabbing its colonial Kurdish army in the back yet again.

The pro-PKK former SDF spox Mustafa Bali made it very clear how he sees the betrayal of his people. He's from the PKK and knows that NATO has never meant anything but death for his people.


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Yes, the Yanks briefly helped the Kurds defeat ISIS, which they themselves created, but it turned out that it was only to turn the YPG/YPJ into their colonial army.
For Syrian Kurds, the great enemy is still Assad and his ally Russia but the PKK knows better.
As the PKK resists the Turkish invasion in the Iraqi Zap river area, Barzani stabs it in the back while NATO and the EU heap praises on Barzani and try to pressure the SDF into submitting to him. Even Mazlum couldn't betray the PKK that much but still remains in the service of the Yanks.

Today the Russians gave the YPG one last chance:

Balanche @FabriceBalanche - 10:43 UTC · 26 Nov 2022

At the meeting held in Qamishli, Russia asked the YPG to withdraw all its military presence from the Turkish border to the M4 road (and leave the entire region to the government). Otherwise, Russia warned the #YPG that Turkey's military operation was inevitable. The YPG has rejected it.

If the Westerners don't stop Turkey, it's the end of the Kurdish autonomy in northeastern Syria. But can Europe and the United States oppose to Turkey in the context of the Ukrainian crisis?

In my view the 'westerner's' still need the wannabe Sultan Erdogan and can not a risk a further drift of Turkey towards Russia. If Erdogan wants to invade northeast Syria he can now do so. The Kurdish leaders, in their never ending obstinacy, will again sacrifice their people.

Posted by b on November 26, 2022 at 16:01 UTC | Permalink

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And Russia can sleep in that soiled bed by itself. After all, Russia made that bed.

Posted by: from-the-area | Nov 27 2022 4:39 utc | 93

the US shit that bed with the overthrow of Mossadegh. and it's trying to overthrow the present governemt. one would think you would know that, being from the area.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 27 2022 9:59 utc | 101

@ pretzelattack | Nov 27 2022 9:59 utc | 100

Let us not forget Perfidious Albion, yet most of all British Petroleum ... nostalgic for the good old SAVAK(PDF 65pages) days is it ?

Posted by: Outraged | Nov 27 2022 10:15 utc | 102

From-the-area @ 93:

Pretzel Attack @ 100 is right: British and American overthrow of Mohammed Mossadegh as Prime Minister of Iran in 1953 for nationalising the Iranian oil industry, and his government's replacement by an autocratic regime under Reza Shah Pahlavi, laid the groundwork for the present Islamic government.

What's this mention of "monarchy"? Odd that you should have brought up the notion of "monarchy" after British MSM started rabbiting on about the restoration of a monarchy in Iran.

Posted by: Jen | Nov 27 2022 10:49 utc | 103

@ pretzelattack | Nov 27 2022 9:59 utc | 100, Outraged 10:15 utc | 101, Jen 10:49 utc | 102


IIRC Mossadegh had pretty much reached agreement with the US and it was the Brits who pushed hard for the coup, even though after Ike got elected and had the Dulles boys working the US took the lead.


A recently discovered transcript of an interview with a British intelligence officer who played a leading role in the 1953 coup that restored powers to the shah of Iran claims that Britain was the driving force behind the overthrow of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh.Brits lead



CIA cold feet
p.5 "...we talked to the CIA with foreign office knowledge but they had cold feet very much more than we had to begin with because it was quite clear that they didn’t have anything near like what we had on the ground..."

I'm in the area too. All I have to do is ride my bike across the bridge to mainland Europe and pedal on down past the Caspian and...

Posted by: waynorinorway | Nov 27 2022 12:35 utc | 104

The British were making much of Turkey genociding Armenians when they wanted Erdogan to run n Islamist jihad against Syria and Iraq. Turkey's reward for its funding, housing, lilitary dupport for Daesh was to have its currency trashed by USUKIS stock exchanges.

The recent war in Azeraijan was run by the British, because USUKIS want Turkey's help for other projects in Ukraine and Syria. Countries like Canada , France and Turkey are mere pawns in the great chess of USUKIS colonial theft. They have criminal records that allow them to be arm- twisted into USUKIS criminal.projects , thereby taking the flak for USUKIS.

The purpose of USUKIS 's Daesh was to force Kurdistan / Northern Iraq to continue being milked for oil. Barzani's Partei hasn't paid wages or pensions properly since they came to power , so Mam Jalal Talebani's Party, under his sons control are now going to split Kurdistan again and take municipal funding directly from Baghdad the Iraqi capit, which has already taken back control of a part of Kurdistan's free oil to USUKIS.

Therefore I see any developments between Turkey and USUKIS- supported PKK in Syria as nothing to do with Syria at all, but rather to put the bxxxtard Northern Kurds , who seem to think their oil belongs to themselves and not USUKIS, back in their place.

Kurdistan has been saved from the Libya/ Syria/ Afghanistan / Somalia treatment mostly by their ancient historical links with Israel , mainly of whose famous prophets pbuh them lived in Kurdistan after the Captivity Daniel Hababkuk, Jonah, ( who brought Judaism Islam to Kurdistan ). The Aramaic of the Gospels is a Kurdish language.

Turkey bombs Kurdistan daily on the false pretext of PKK bases there. The bombing in Istanbul was 100% done by USUKIS to provoke / justify re-igniting the frail Syrian peace. And the purpose of that is to intimidate the Kurds who crazily want their oil revenues for their own salaries and pensions, not for USUKIS salaries and pensions which are already big enough.

This will be hotly denied by laguerre who works in the oil industry and who services kool-aid vending machines for USUKIS.
The pershmerga / national army of Kurdistan are not properly paid and openly declare Saddam Hussein as a better ruler than than the israeli - backed Barzanis.

As a result this Turkish ejaculation of fake rage at PKK, after USUKIS flash flag bombing in Istanbul will be short-lived imho. Kurdistan and Baghdad will swiftly grovel to USUKIS bullying, as the did to Daesh. They have no choice. Think of African slaves in the Caribbean. No choice. Fuck USUKIS and its lorries on the M6.

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 27 2022 12:58 utc | 105

Biji SDF
Biji YPG/YPJ

Posted by: Arliss | Nov 27 2022 18:15 utc | 106

@ SeanAU | Nov 27 2022 4:44 utc | 96

if you understood the role of christian orthodoxy in the area, you'd appreciate how this all weaves together.. historical context is very helpful in understanding context..

@ pretzelattack | Nov 27 2022 9:59 utc | 101

i think from the area poster is not actually from the area, but probably works out of langley... speaking of which.. we haven't seen william gruff in a while... hum??

Posted by: james | Nov 27 2022 18:43 utc | 107

Posted by: Bianca | Nov 27 2022 4:41 utc | 95

HTS us NOT Turkish proxy. Releat NOT. It iis a remnant of Nusra Front, fully equipped, funded and politically supported by US and UK. Special ops are there. Many were caught after Nusra lost Aleppo. Try to remember propaganda about good guys fighting bad Syrian government and Russians. White Helmets were stationed with Nusra, later renamed HtS. Their Al-Qaeda days were just a front in order to recruit as many ifnirant and angry people frim Syria and abroad, Today, US and Uzk are foghting for UN control of food and aid to be INDEPENDENT fron Syria, using Turkish territory without Turkey controlling actual cargo...
How about calling it a NATO proxy?

From my perspective, the US and UK orchestration is obvious, but I find it hard to believe that the HTS - Nusra project could have exited without Turkey playing the main role in the production.

My main objection to your suggestion that HTS has somehow developed in spite of Turkey is that we are talking about a main belligerent in a decade long modern war. The logistics involved are massive and I don't see how Turkey could be anything other than the main actor. In fact, this logic applies to the logistics behind the incredible expansion of ISIS.

All those technicals with 23mm canons weren't built in Idlib and the tens of thousands of recruits weren't airdropped at the front. Columns of buses and heavy trucks loaded with armament can only transit through a country that has given its full blessing.

Another point to consider is that Turkish forces have established a string of bases around Idlib, effectively preventing the Syrian forces from reclaiming those territories.

Posted by: robin | Nov 27 2022 19:42 utc | 108

@ Arliss 106

Long live SDF
Long live YPG/YPJ

Posted by: Giyane | Nov 27 2022 19:58 utc | 109

[ Please skip this comment, it's only for james' edification, he is a slow learner ]

Eleanor Roosevelt was right when she said:
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."
Unfortunately "small minded people" cannot understand or appreciate such basic human decency.

Dear james @107,
You will know why I checked if you had made any more comments about/to me again today, but your comments will remain blocked. You are, if nothing else, consistent in being an obsessive passive-aggressive light weight.

James says to SeanAU
" if you understood the role of christian orthodoxy in the area, you'd appreciate how this all weaves together.. "
Posted by: james | Nov 27 2022 18:43 utc | 107
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/11/syria-another-turkish-invasion-is-imminent/comments/page/1/#comments

How nice. Another personal put-down james. Are you proud of this newest passive-aggressive attack. You must really enjoy trying to publicly ridicule people, given you do it so often.

and then James says to SeanAU
" historical context is very helpful in understanding context.."
Posted by: james | Nov 27 2022 18:43 utc | 107

Wow man - "historical context can relate to current context"? Brilliant stuff again. I am so effing dumb man! I would never have thought..... /s

But james, let's assume (for a moment here) I am an ignorant idiot who knows absolutely nothing about Orthodox Christianity etc -- tell us all what exactly it is that I do not understand about "the role of christian orthodoxy in the area"?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence! Please spell it out so everyone can see how stupid and ignorant I am. Then we can "appreciate how this all weaves together" as much as you do. Clearly, I desperately need your help.

Better still how about this instead:

James' Homework Project:
To write
1) an 800 word essay about the the historical role of christian orthodoxy in the area of present day Ukraine and in the surrounding regions and peoples.
And
2) a 1200 word essay of how this historical context can inform and assist us today in understanding better the context of the current war in Ukraine and its geopolitical ramifications.
Please submit your essay to B for publication on MoA before the end of this month.

aka Show us all how smart, wise and knowledgeable you are james. Stop hiding your light under a bushel 'mate'. Because (apparently) I know nothing at all.

Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 28 2022 0:28 utc | 110

Moscow has demonstrated its contempt for NATO armaments.

If Turkiye chooses to initiate a new offensive, it will be under one of two circumstances:

1) Turkiye sees a weakness in Russian armaments and will exploit that weakness to Syria's loss, or

2) Turkiye has turned on the US/UK/NATO, and is no longer part of the alliance.

Posted by: Pacifica_Advocate | Nov 28 2022 1:20 utc | 111

@ SeanAU | Nov 28 2022 0:28 utc | 110

i knew you could do it, lol... you are very consistent in what in projection... keep on ignoring me... you've got a great talent for that!!

Posted by: james | Nov 28 2022 1:24 utc | 112

For absolutely no discernible reason at all, a segment from the following springs to mind:

CAPTION: LONDON 1895

CAPTION:
THE RESIDENCE OF
MR. OSCAR WILDE

Monty Python sketch

...

Whistler: I meant, Your Majesty, that uh, like a doughnut your arrival gives us pleasure and your departure merely makes us hungry for more. (laughter) Right, Your Majesty is like a stream of bat's piss.

Prince: What?

Whistler: It was one of Wilde's.

Oscar: It sodding was not! It was Shaw!

Prince: Well Mr. Shaw?

Shaw: (Michael Palin) I... I merely meant, Your Majesty, that you shine out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark.

Prince: (accepting the compliment) Oh.

...

Posted by: Outraged | Nov 28 2022 1:58 utc | 113

Musta bin a CIA cyber-bot what dun it guvnor.

Posted by: SeanAU | Nov 28 2022 4:53 utc | 114

To Arch Bungle:
Not fair to compare Kurd leadership to whores...
Whores are much more honorable

Posted by: Fadi | Nov 28 2022 7:12 utc | 115

It is special that Israel supports the Kurds (read PKK) militarily with a view to establishing their own sovereign state, but denies the right to exist of the original inhabitants of Israel.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2004/06/28/plan-b-2

Posted by: Faraday | Nov 28 2022 11:29 utc | 116

Who made ISIS big by aiding their invasion of Mosul and the region? Answer: The Turks, the Kurds, the Obama/Biden regime, Saudis and Qataris, and of course Israel.

https://thecradle.co/Article/Investigations/18518

Mosul fell to ISIS in Iraq due to the Nineveh governor Atheel al-Nujaih, working with ISIS on behalf of the Turks, supported by the US, Saudis and the Kurdish Regional Government.

Nujaifi was helped by former Baghdad soldiers who formed a rebel group, and he had openly discussed his plan to take control with local police, tribal Sunnis and Kurds.

Nujaifi publicly welcomed the ISIS invasion after he and two top generals had withdrawn, demoralizing the defenders.

Nujaifi held a speech that was widely spread on social media, holding an AK47 and calling ISIS "liberators".

Turkey's consul Yilmaz was called the actual ruler of Mosul by Iraqi intelligence afterward.

The Turks worked closely with ISIS, and vice president Biden in a speech at Harvard 2014 revealed that the Obama regime with its Saudi, Qatari and Turk allies had supported ISIS.

Turkish intelligence officers were meeting with ISIS commanders in Turkey. Ahmet Yayala, former Turkish counterterrorism police officer, said in an interview that Turkish intelligence, MIT, "consistently helped ISIS," and in 2014 "we saw the terrorists meeting with our own service." Turkisn nationalists saw Mosul as land lost after the breakup of the Ottoman Empire.

When ISIS took Mosul, Kurd peshmergas immediately occupied oil-rich Kirkuk, giving them 9 billion barrels of oil and access to the Kirkuk-Ceyhan pipeline to Turkey. Erdogan's son and his son-in-law owned firms related to the oil trade.

Jerusalem Post revealed that by August 2015, 77 percent of Israel's oil supply was imported from Iraqi Kurdistan via the Ceyhan port.

The Kurds then took the weapons of the Yazidi and Christian minorities, then withdrew from both regions without notice, to allow ISIS to capture them. ISIS massacred and sexually enslaved thousands of Yazidis and drove hundreds of thousands of Christians from their homes.

Posted by: Tenet | Nov 29 2022 1:34 utc | 117

I had faith in you, hehe. You have a strong sense of projection. You're very good at ignoring me, so keep doing that!

Posted by: Basket Random | Dec 6 2022 9:15 utc | 118

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